July 14, 2025 • 13 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Lucky dip time. Thanks for listening.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
It's Malamonti today, putting our hand in a bucket and
pulling out a treat for you to hear.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hello Monty, Hello, everybody. Hello everyone.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hope you're going wow whatever you were up to make sure?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Oh god, that's annoying.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I'm trying to get more protein into my diet, which
every fucking woman is. It's such a punish getting protein
into your diet.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Anyway, I've got this protein smoothie. Ick.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
It's coffee flavor, so it's not too bad. And I
just shook it and I'm in my son's bedroom with
carpet and it just went fucking everywhere.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Oh no, what have you got today? Okay, So I've
got a couple of stories about people who survived the
seemingly impossible lover it. So just a quick mention. This
first one has to do with suicide, so okay, warning, Okay.
So in nineteen seventy nine, this lady called Alvita Adams
(01:06):
was a twenty nine year old single mum who was
really going through it, like having a terrible time, so
terrible that she decided to walk down to the Empire
State Building in New York. She went up to the
eighty sixth floor forty six years ago. You know, the
security wasn't what it now. So she gets up to
(01:26):
the observation deck on the eighty sixth floor. She scales
the fencing there fuck and she jumps. Oh my gosh.
But it was some freak occurrence that at the time
she jumped, there was this massive gust of wind that
(01:47):
blew her back and she landed one floor down on
a ninety centimeter ledge, concrete ledge on the eighty fifth floor.
What I know this is this is for reels documented.
It was in the New York Times and everything. So
ninety centimeters is not much to catch you either. Well
(02:08):
you think of a thirty centimeter ruler. Yes, I thought
about three of those. Yes, I always think in rulers. Yeah. Anyway,
and then at I don't know, I think it was
about eight thirty at night, one of the security guards
patrolling heard someone moaning and he goes out there because like,
even though it's it was only a flaw, it's still
like a fall six six meters, right, So she fractured
(02:32):
her pelvis. So she's laying there in pain. Anyway, she
goes to hospital. She recovers. Nobody fucking knows what's happened
to her since. But what a like? Is that? Not
the most freak like You couldn't even imagine that happening.
You couldn't even do that if you're a stuntman. No,
(02:53):
you know, I think about not at all a suicidal thing,
because I've heard that lots of other people think it.
Anytime I'm where that's a height, Yes, I look down
and there's this feeling of not I want to jump,
just I wonder, I wonder if I jumps I'm a
nurser or something. It's I don't know, it's very common.
It's definitely an intrusive thought. Yes, but I always, like
(03:16):
anytime I look down off a balcony or whatever, I
always say to Mark, do you can you die if
you fell from here? Or like, what do you reckon?
You'd break?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Mine's normally an inside thought, not an outside thought. But
I vividly remember going to the Buddy Holy Show when
I was a kid and we were on the what
do you call it when you're up on the second
you know, the second.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Oh, the circle, the dress circle or whatever it's called.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
The dress circles down the front. I think I forget
what it's called, but we will rid up the front
of the balcony and I remember going what if I jumped?
What if I jumped, and scaring myself. I would have
been about eight. And I also remember embarrassing for no reason,
dancing on the seat and the seat was one of
those seats that you've got to pull down flip up,
and I slipped fell in the crack of the seat.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
That's not embarrassing for no reason, that's just embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yes it was.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I was so embarrassed.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
And my name was in She's like, oh, you're right,
And I remember being embarrassed even in front of my name.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
You know what's a bit embarrassing for no reason. Going
to that show, just tribute shows. Those yeah, impersonators, Yes,
are so awkward. So it makes me so uncomfortable. It's
so uncomfortable, Like you see them and you're like, yeah,
you're trying to be someone else. It's weird, you know,
it's so weird.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
And I'm also in La, like around that that theater
where they have like the oscars or whatever, there's always
impersonators standing out the front and that's their job. Like
you're like, can I get a photo, and then you've
got to give them a buck or so, and it's
like your job standing here pretending to be Madonna.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I'm embarrassed. The same conversation's embarrassing me. Okay, this is
another extraordinary story about a man called John Babercombe Lee. Right,
so we're going back here to the night of November fifteenth,
eighteen eighty four. Yes, a long time ago. However, this
(05:14):
twenty year old guy called John Lee had been working
as a servant for this wealthy older lady and he
lived on the property next door. This night, he wakes
up and he looks out and he sees smoke coming
from inside the house. So he runs into the house
and he sees that the woman that he worked for
has been like stabbed to the point of almost decapitation,
(05:38):
and someone had set her on fire, which is what
started the whole thing. So there were three other women
in the house at the time. He rescued them, and
then he ends up being prosecuted for the death because
there was no there was no solid evidence. It was
just he was the only male on the property in it.
And I believe he was a black man as well. No,
(06:01):
he wasn't. Yeah, but probably poor, like you know what
I mean. But I did think that straight away too.
I bet he was black. Isn't that horrible to think
that anyway?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Right, well, I mean like yeah, and the word servant
you think exactly too. I think yep in those times,
always maintained his innocence. He wasn't even allowed to defend
himself in court, like there was no defense for him.
And the trial went for four days and it was like,
we sentenced you to death, sir. This is how it
(06:31):
is God. So you know, back then it was like
public hangings. Shit, people came, like they took their kids.
It was like fucking going to the movies anyway, entertainment.
So this poor man a hood is put over his
(06:51):
head and he's walked out up onto the gallows or whatever.
And in the days leading up to it, apparently there's
systems that they had to go through, so they had
to like have several people check that everything was in
working order and stuff so there were no mishaps. He
gets up there, they put the noose around his neck,
and you know, like there's a trap door underneath, which
(07:12):
just gives me the creeps the thought of that, Like
the trap door opens, right, the body drop horrible. Yeah.
So he's standing there and was it a hanging or
was it a guillotine? No, it was a public hanging.
So he's up on this platform. The noose is around
his neck. The trap door under him opens and story
(07:33):
that's right. Yes, so the feet yes, yes, so you know,
the ground gives way under him sort of. And then
if he drops, so the executioner pulls a lever that
opens the trap door. He's up there, levers pulled, nothing,
trap door doesn't open. Pulls it a few times, nothing.
(07:55):
So they go there, they take him down, they have
a look. Everything's fine. They use a dummy to check
if it'll open. It opens perfectly. Wow. They get him
back up there. This happened three times. Oh my god.
It was opening when he wasn't there or when they
(08:15):
use this dummy to trial. But when he was there
it wouldn't open. So after the third time, the medical
officer was like, fuck this this is this is a sign. Yeah,
this is not going forward. So anyway, they take him
back to the prison. Mind you can you imagine the
state of mind of this guy. No, god like, imagine
(08:38):
that you would have you would have pissed you would
have just let go of every just waiting.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
He would have just been so full on. They almost
feel in times like that, when the fear is so hectic,
something else takes over and it'd have.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
To maybe I don't know, but anyway, everyone is terrified
because they're like, this is probably a God intervention here,
maybe innocent. Anyway, So he gets his death sentence commuted
to life in prison, but he continues to advocate for
himself because he didn't fucking do it. Yes, twenty two
years later he's released. Oh god. Anyway, he was fifty
(09:13):
three years old. He'd been like, he had this notoriety
that he was given the name the man they couldn't hang.
So he rode this wave and he started like touring
fairs and stuff. Anyway, he went on to write a book.
In this book, this is very freaky, he writes about
how the night before he was meant to be executed,
(09:34):
he had a dream that he was up in that
they're called the gallows whatever. He was up there waiting
for the hanging to happen, and three times the trap
door wouldn't open. This, and he told the chaplain and
other staff who corroborated that at the time he told
them about this dream that he had on the day
he was meant to be executed, So it's not like
(09:56):
he's saying it in like making it up after he's
got these people that could corroborate his story. And then
he later moved to the US and apparently died in
nineteen forty five at eighty years old, which is a
pretty good innings for back then to live.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
About eighty two totally, but also like just then living
your life after that, like so much of it is
taken away twenty two years in prison. You know what
I read the other day They executed a guy in
America by lethal injection, a prisoner, and you still do
get your last meal, whatever your last meal is that
(10:31):
you want. And he ordered all this KFC, and his
final words were I'm innocent, puck, and then they gave
him the lethal injection. A fucking hectic because your final words,
you wouldn't give a shit, do you know what I mean?
You'd be like, I'm going so just to still say
I'm innocent.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Have you seen have you seen the movie dead Man Walking? No? Okay,
like probably don't watch it because it's very upsetting. But
I used to think, well, the death penalties fair, like
you take a life, your life's taken sort of thing.
But after watching that movie, it's based on a true
story about a guy who when he was young, him
(11:11):
and a friend murdered a couple, like a couple of
teenagers who were out parking. They raped the girl and
then they shot her, and so it's a true story,
but it's about this nun who worked in the prison
system and she worked with them because the idea is
accept responsibility for what you've done and then you'll go
somewhere better when you do die, but you have to.
(11:33):
I don't know is it called as absolve. I don't
know what it is, but like, take responsibility for what
you've done, and it's the process of it. But it's
not fixing anything. It's like, oh no, yeah, it's just
really like the whole idea of it is horrible. I've
never yeah, I don't think it's the right thing to do.
But the last meal thing, I think they outlawed that
(11:56):
in some states because people were just taking the piss,
Like some of these we all fucking dickheads. We're doing
shit like ordering a fuck ton of food and then
just not eating it. Like it finally cares.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I mean, even if they don't eat it, well, it's
going to be a couple of hundred bucks. Like they're
not executing a bucketload of people. But I love these guys, like,
just get me fucking buckloads of KFC just sat there
and devoured it.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
It's the simple things, isn't it. Yes, totally.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
All right, let's get out of here, mal Thanks for
listening to our Lucky Dip show and Tell Podcasts is
where you can find us. We have a Patreon where
you get an extra podcast every couple of weeks and
there's a membership there if you want to sign up.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
But yeah, get in touch with us anytime.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
We love to hear from you, and also give us
a rating or a comment wherever you listen to your podcast.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Super helpful. But we will be back soon. Bye for now,
Love you,
Lucky dip time. Thanks for listening.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
It's Malamonti today, putting our hand in a bucket and
pulling out a treat for you to hear.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hello Monty, Hello, everybody. Hello everyone.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hope you're going wow whatever you were up to make sure?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Oh god, that's annoying.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I'm trying to get more protein into my diet, which
every fucking woman is. It's such a punish getting protein
into your diet.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Anyway, I've got this protein smoothie. Ick.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
It's coffee flavor, so it's not too bad. And I
just shook it and I'm in my son's bedroom with
carpet and it just went fucking everywhere.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Oh no, what have you got today? Okay, So I've
got a couple of stories about people who survived the
seemingly impossible lover it. So just a quick mention. This
first one has to do with suicide, so okay, warning, Okay.
So in nineteen seventy nine, this lady called Alvita Adams
(01:06):
was a twenty nine year old single mum who was
really going through it, like having a terrible time, so
terrible that she decided to walk down to the Empire
State Building in New York. She went up to the
eighty sixth floor forty six years ago. You know, the
security wasn't what it now. So she gets up to
(01:26):
the observation deck on the eighty sixth floor. She scales
the fencing there fuck and she jumps. Oh my gosh.
But it was some freak occurrence that at the time
she jumped, there was this massive gust of wind that
(01:47):
blew her back and she landed one floor down on
a ninety centimeter ledge, concrete ledge on the eighty fifth floor.
What I know this is this is for reels documented.
It was in the New York Times and everything. So
ninety centimeters is not much to catch you either. Well
(02:08):
you think of a thirty centimeter ruler. Yes, I thought
about three of those. Yes, I always think in rulers. Yeah. Anyway,
and then at I don't know, I think it was
about eight thirty at night, one of the security guards
patrolling heard someone moaning and he goes out there because like,
even though it's it was only a flaw, it's still
like a fall six six meters, right, So she fractured
(02:32):
her pelvis. So she's laying there in pain. Anyway, she
goes to hospital. She recovers. Nobody fucking knows what's happened
to her since. But what a like? Is that? Not
the most freak like You couldn't even imagine that happening.
You couldn't even do that if you're a stuntman. No,
(02:53):
you know, I think about not at all a suicidal thing,
because I've heard that lots of other people think it.
Anytime I'm where that's a height, Yes, I look down
and there's this feeling of not I want to jump,
just I wonder, I wonder if I jumps I'm a
nurser or something. It's I don't know, it's very common.
It's definitely an intrusive thought. Yes, but I always, like
(03:16):
anytime I look down off a balcony or whatever, I
always say to Mark, do you can you die if
you fell from here? Or like, what do you reckon?
You'd break?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Mine's normally an inside thought, not an outside thought. But
I vividly remember going to the Buddy Holy Show when
I was a kid and we were on the what
do you call it when you're up on the second
you know, the second.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Oh, the circle, the dress circle or whatever it's called.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
The dress circles down the front. I think I forget
what it's called, but we will rid up the front
of the balcony and I remember going what if I jumped?
What if I jumped, and scaring myself. I would have
been about eight. And I also remember embarrassing for no reason,
dancing on the seat and the seat was one of
those seats that you've got to pull down flip up,
and I slipped fell in the crack of the seat.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
That's not embarrassing for no reason, that's just embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yes it was.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I was so embarrassed.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
And my name was in She's like, oh, you're right,
And I remember being embarrassed even in front of my name.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
You know what's a bit embarrassing for no reason. Going
to that show, just tribute shows. Those yeah, impersonators, Yes,
are so awkward. So it makes me so uncomfortable. It's
so uncomfortable, Like you see them and you're like, yeah,
you're trying to be someone else. It's weird, you know,
it's so weird.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
And I'm also in La, like around that that theater
where they have like the oscars or whatever, there's always
impersonators standing out the front and that's their job. Like
you're like, can I get a photo, and then you've
got to give them a buck or so, and it's
like your job standing here pretending to be Madonna.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I'm embarrassed. The same conversation's embarrassing me. Okay, this is
another extraordinary story about a man called John Babercombe Lee. Right,
so we're going back here to the night of November fifteenth,
eighteen eighty four. Yes, a long time ago. However, this
(05:14):
twenty year old guy called John Lee had been working
as a servant for this wealthy older lady and he
lived on the property next door. This night, he wakes
up and he looks out and he sees smoke coming
from inside the house. So he runs into the house
and he sees that the woman that he worked for
has been like stabbed to the point of almost decapitation,
(05:38):
and someone had set her on fire, which is what
started the whole thing. So there were three other women
in the house at the time. He rescued them, and
then he ends up being prosecuted for the death because
there was no there was no solid evidence. It was
just he was the only male on the property in it.
And I believe he was a black man as well. No,
(06:01):
he wasn't. Yeah, but probably poor, like you know what
I mean. But I did think that straight away too.
I bet he was black. Isn't that horrible to think
that anyway?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Right, well, I mean like yeah, and the word servant
you think exactly too. I think yep in those times,
always maintained his innocence. He wasn't even allowed to defend
himself in court, like there was no defense for him.
And the trial went for four days and it was like,
we sentenced you to death, sir. This is how it
(06:31):
is God. So you know, back then it was like
public hangings. Shit, people came, like they took their kids.
It was like fucking going to the movies anyway, entertainment.
So this poor man a hood is put over his
(06:51):
head and he's walked out up onto the gallows or whatever.
And in the days leading up to it, apparently there's
systems that they had to go through, so they had
to like have several people check that everything was in
working order and stuff so there were no mishaps. He
gets up there, they put the noose around his neck,
and you know, like there's a trap door underneath, which
(07:12):
just gives me the creeps the thought of that, Like
the trap door opens, right, the body drop horrible. Yeah.
So he's standing there and was it a hanging or
was it a guillotine? No, it was a public hanging.
So he's up on this platform. The noose is around
his neck. The trap door under him opens and story
(07:33):
that's right. Yes, so the feet yes, yes, so you know,
the ground gives way under him sort of. And then
if he drops, so the executioner pulls a lever that
opens the trap door. He's up there, levers pulled, nothing,
trap door doesn't open. Pulls it a few times, nothing.
(07:55):
So they go there, they take him down, they have
a look. Everything's fine. They use a dummy to check
if it'll open. It opens perfectly. Wow. They get him
back up there. This happened three times. Oh my god.
It was opening when he wasn't there or when they
(08:15):
use this dummy to trial. But when he was there
it wouldn't open. So after the third time, the medical
officer was like, fuck this this is this is a sign. Yeah,
this is not going forward. So anyway, they take him
back to the prison. Mind you can you imagine the
state of mind of this guy. No, god like, imagine
(08:38):
that you would have you would have pissed you would
have just let go of every just waiting.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
He would have just been so full on. They almost
feel in times like that, when the fear is so hectic,
something else takes over and it'd have.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
To maybe I don't know, but anyway, everyone is terrified
because they're like, this is probably a God intervention here,
maybe innocent. Anyway, So he gets his death sentence commuted
to life in prison, but he continues to advocate for
himself because he didn't fucking do it. Yes, twenty two
years later he's released. Oh god. Anyway, he was fifty
(09:13):
three years old. He'd been like, he had this notoriety
that he was given the name the man they couldn't hang.
So he rode this wave and he started like touring
fairs and stuff. Anyway, he went on to write a book.
In this book, this is very freaky, he writes about
how the night before he was meant to be executed,
(09:34):
he had a dream that he was up in that
they're called the gallows whatever. He was up there waiting
for the hanging to happen, and three times the trap
door wouldn't open. This, and he told the chaplain and
other staff who corroborated that at the time he told
them about this dream that he had on the day
he was meant to be executed, So it's not like
(09:56):
he's saying it in like making it up after he's
got these people that could corroborate his story. And then
he later moved to the US and apparently died in
nineteen forty five at eighty years old, which is a
pretty good innings for back then to live.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
About eighty two totally, but also like just then living
your life after that, like so much of it is
taken away twenty two years in prison. You know what
I read the other day They executed a guy in
America by lethal injection, a prisoner, and you still do
get your last meal, whatever your last meal is that
(10:31):
you want. And he ordered all this KFC, and his
final words were I'm innocent, puck, and then they gave
him the lethal injection. A fucking hectic because your final words,
you wouldn't give a shit, do you know what I mean?
You'd be like, I'm going so just to still say
I'm innocent.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Have you seen have you seen the movie dead Man Walking? No? Okay,
like probably don't watch it because it's very upsetting. But
I used to think, well, the death penalties fair, like
you take a life, your life's taken sort of thing.
But after watching that movie, it's based on a true
story about a guy who when he was young, him
(11:11):
and a friend murdered a couple, like a couple of
teenagers who were out parking. They raped the girl and
then they shot her, and so it's a true story,
but it's about this nun who worked in the prison
system and she worked with them because the idea is
accept responsibility for what you've done and then you'll go
somewhere better when you do die, but you have to.
(11:33):
I don't know is it called as absolve. I don't
know what it is, but like, take responsibility for what
you've done, and it's the process of it. But it's
not fixing anything. It's like, oh no, yeah, it's just
really like the whole idea of it is horrible. I've
never yeah, I don't think it's the right thing to do.
But the last meal thing, I think they outlawed that
(11:56):
in some states because people were just taking the piss,
Like some of these we all fucking dickheads. We're doing
shit like ordering a fuck ton of food and then
just not eating it. Like it finally cares.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I mean, even if they don't eat it, well, it's
going to be a couple of hundred bucks. Like they're
not executing a bucketload of people. But I love these guys, like,
just get me fucking buckloads of KFC just sat there
and devoured it.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
It's the simple things, isn't it. Yes, totally.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
All right, let's get out of here, mal Thanks for
listening to our Lucky Dip show and Tell Podcasts is
where you can find us. We have a Patreon where
you get an extra podcast every couple of weeks and
there's a membership there if you want to sign up.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
But yeah, get in touch with us anytime.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
We love to hear from you, and also give us
a rating or a comment wherever you listen to your podcast.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Super helpful. But we will be back soon. Bye for now,
Love you,
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