October 22, 2025 • 24 mins
We're back after a little break - a bit fresher, and potentially more unhinged, than ever! 😂 We crack right into a chat about how important connection is in midlife, but also how tricky it can be to maintain it with all of life's other demands.
Monty's best friend Chris Hemsworth has a moving new doco coming out with his dad about facing life with Alzheimer's, and Mel shares a fascinating study that gives hope to combatting physical and cognitive effects of aging. There's also Hilaria Baldwin's Dancing with the Stars tear-fest, the Golden Bachie, and how a compliment at the doctor's office gave Mel an extra pep in her step. Enjoy!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hello, Hello, our friends. We have missed you. It's Mail
of Monthy. It's Mal the Monty, your podcast pals. I've
really missed you. I missed you too.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
This morning when I was setting up my equipment because
we're so professional, were just sitting in her bedroom on
the floor, and I'm sitting at my dining table and
we set up our gear every time and pack it down.
But as I was packing it, like setting it up,
I was like, oh, I'm a big nervous same because
we had a few weeks off, which for us is
quite rare. I think over like the ten years we've
(00:40):
been doing this. Last year we had a break for
the first time. Yes, that's so fucking weird. What martyrs
we are?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Why?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
But I think we do need to schedule those in
a little bit more. Just I totally agree, Yeah, because
I was. I was actually really excited.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah and hap yeah same to come back. Yeah me,
I was exactly the same anyway. So we did have
a couple of weeks off. I went it was the
school holidays, I went to Melbourne and then my health
flared up. So I'm like, I just need a break
and Mail. You've just been working your little bloody fingers
to the bones. Yes, because this is like our main
socializing as well, which is.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Terrible because we're not even in the same room.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
But it's like, oh, and I had it yesterday because
I've moved to Byron and away from my old friends
like Stace, my best mate. It's I haven't seen her
in nearly a year because whenever I've been in Melbourne,
she's been away and it's fucked and I miss her
so much. So yesterday we set up a teams meeting
and just at each other and chatted and we're like,
(01:40):
every second Monday, let's have a cup of tea on
a team's like a you know, zoom call, and then
you just feel like you've seen each other and just
caught up that way.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
That's such a great idea. Yeah, So we've just got
to do I've just got to make more of an.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Effort to keep connections up with because you just get
into such a pattern and a routine of your day
to day life and then I go along and I'm like, fuck,
I'm actually lonely because I don't I have moved and
I've been here nearly five years, but you're so busy
with kids and now my kids are at other schools
(02:14):
that I don't get out and see people at the
school ground where that used to fill your social cup
a bit more.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
So, I just go through stages where I'm like, fuck,
I'm actually quite lonely, Like I've got to make more
of an effort. That's the really hard thing about midlife,
I think, is that you need the connection, but you're
all so busy, yes, busy working kids, family, you might
have parents that need extra help. It's like this weird.
(02:41):
I don't know the time that you think, yes should
be you should be oh god, the kids are a
bit older now, I should be a bit freer, but
you're actually not.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
No, it's really yeah, it's and everyone's the same because
you're like, oh, let's go for a walk, and it
takes you bloody two weeks to even book in a walk.
But I was saying to Stace, like, you know, because
we lived in opposite opposite parts of Melbourne when we
lived there, and I said, if I was to move back,
we still wouldn't see each other very much because we
(03:12):
used to see each other weekly because we would podcast
at my house and Stace used to podcast and we
used to do show and tell stuff. So it was
like a booked in socializing slash work. And I also
had that with the three pm pickup, where it was
like that was my social you know, seeing I got
to work with my mates, so that was my huge
(03:33):
social outlet. Yeah, and I just am like, oh, yeah,
you don't.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
You're not.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I'm not keeping up enough with friendships. I feel like
you just and they do take nurturing and work. Even
though you pick up where you're left off with old friends,
it's like you still got to put in the effort
to stay connected.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
It's like everything takes max effort. Yeah, and I can't,
I know, but we do have to, like you have
to make more effort with everything, yeah, hundred percent. Yeah.
Speaking of making effort with things, I just sent you
a clip of this new little documentary that's coming out
(04:15):
with Chris Hemsworth. It's called a road Trip to Remember.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Oh my god, it's side note his kids play soccer
same night as mine.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Oh yeah, your friend Chris Hemsworth, my friend, my mate,
Chris Hemsworth. Not at all that there was this kid
riding around doing tricks on an e bike. Every kid
here has an e bike.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
By the way, what are they the ones with the motor.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
It's a motorbike. It's a motorbike in the form that
looks like a bike. And my son has just said,
and I'm surprised it's taken him so long, but he's like,
can we please go halves in an e bike? I
can ride to work, I can ride into town and
see my friends. And we're like, actually, we'll be convenient.
And I noticed in Melbourne that no one had one
because everything's so spread out. We're here, everything's quite close. Yeah,
(05:00):
but some of them like, put three kids on the
fucking bike with you no helmets. I'm like, I've got
all these rules. He has to do a road rules test,
he has to like, can't We're going to cap the kilometers.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
He can go out anyway. Whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
So I see this kid doing tricks on the soccer
field on this bike. Young be about twelve, but in
my head, I'm like, that's the fucking best looking kid
I've ever seen. And then I see him walk over
to his twin brother and Elsa, and I'm like, it's a.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Hem's worth kid. Of course, it is no wonder they've got.
Look at those jeans. The jeans well This documentary is
about a road trip that Chris Hemsworth is taking with
his dad because his dad has dementia.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I love this photo. Just stand over there and film me.
My dad and I are going on a road trip.
That wrong way, mate, it's been that round, going to
act into our past. This is the opening titles to
the greatest film ever made. He has early stage Alzheimers.
(06:07):
I want to do everything I can to help him.
It turns out this experience could help fight the disease.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
From what I get from the trailer, the idea behind
it is that they're going back to where you know
the family was raised, which I think was Philip islon Piland. Yeah,
and they're on motorbikes, which is ce the tools. Yes, well,
I think it's together they've recreated the family home as
it was.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
So did that because I because in the clip which
I cried in the first two seconds because Chris is
getting emotional straight away. But yeah, that it shows footage
of them going back into a house with photos and
everything like that. So they wouldn't still have their house
set up in Philip Island exactly the same as it
was when they lived their full time. So did they
(06:53):
create the scene again.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I can imagine that they're not living in Philip Island anymore,
that maybe they've either rented or purchased that house and
refitted out exactly the same as it was I did. Yeah,
I mean the budget, the budget would be good. Well,
it would actually have to be their old house, yes,
because the dad walks in and they're just like a
(07:16):
gush of old memories and there's pictures of the boys
in frames and stuff like that, which that's what I'm like.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
It still wouldn't be set up like that, but Christine
it also says it can actually help with the disease
visiting and re triggering those memories.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
This is what I had to tell you, because when
I saw it, it immediately reminded me of this other
thing that I'd seen online, which was this neuroscientist that
was talking about they did this experiment where they took
a group of eighty year old men. Yeah, and she
said they were not like the words she used were
it's not like now that eighties, the new sixty. It
(07:52):
was like they were old. Okay, yeah, right, she said,
And we retrofitted this place to make it look like
it was from twenty years earlier. So they had the
same sort of like the TVs that would have been
in at the time, showing the programs on television that
were in at the time, all that sort of stuff.
They talked about like they were living in that moment
(08:14):
and they were talking about the events that were happening
during that time and stuff. Yeah. Right, they noticed within
one week their vision improved, Oh my god, their memory improved,
their cognitive function improved, all because they had gone back
to the state of mind that they were. Wow. Now,
(08:34):
obviously these aren't people with dementia, but I do think
there's something in that. Yeah, the recollection of memories or
a time or something like that. Maybe it can tap
into something like that. But it looks incredibly moving, like,
oh my god, it.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Looks very emotional and also and it leaves one of
the things, what are you most scared of? And like
it cuts so you know, to make you watch it.
But yeah, I wonder what he's dad says that he's
most scared of. I think it would be and there'd
be a heap of you listening whose parents or somebody
you know has dementia or Alzheimer's. I just think it
(09:10):
would be so fucking terrifying at the start, when you
are aware of what's.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Going to happen.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, like with my power, he just stopped remembering people's names.
So then he wanted and he was the most social
person of all times, so then he felt uncomfortable going
down the street because he didn't want to use people's name,
like you know, see people and not use their names.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Little things like that. I remember he never forgot you
guys though, Like if you went to at the very end,
I could see that he Yeah, didn't, yeh didn't. Like
I think he knew we were familiar, but not he
wouldn't have been able to say our names. The transition
stage would be the worst, where you're aware that you're forgetting.
(09:52):
That's what I reckon.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah's where you know where you're like, fuck, I can't
find that in my brain. Like my stepdad doesn't have
Alzheimer's or dementia, that his memory is not great and
he knows that it's not and so he'll just I
can see that it bothers him, and he says how
much it bothers him, And I'm like, that would be
so frustrating, frustrating going through your files and your brain
and not being able to find what you want. It
(10:15):
would feel really scary and really uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Well, just think of us now at this state. You know,
the word recall is a thing for me at the moment,
like what I'm trying to say, can you get me
the And it's like I'm trying to say, I don't
know paper, but it's like the word's not coming totally yet.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
My sister's like, find your words, find your words. She
doesn't have brain fogs, she doesn't have kids. I reckon
having kids, and she's not going through perimenopause. But I'm like,
the brain fog is so real, and trying to find words,
I'm like, you're fucking kidding me?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Where are you? It'ld be so simple, like can you
get the earth? I know? Twel like I know. I
think the most hurtful thing with dementia and stuff is
that your memories are sort of make up who you are,
and you lose who you are. There was I'll say
one other thing that I saw that was really really interesting.
(11:07):
It was a nurse who was doing a talk to
families of dementia patients, and she said, what people often
do is try and bring them back to reality. So
you might have a situation where the person says, oh,
I'll get dad to look at that when he gets home,
and then the kids are like, no, mom, dad died
ten years ago. And she's like what what and there's
(11:29):
this trauma. And then ten minutes later she says it again,
I'll get dad to do this, and they say no, Mum,
And she said, you're retraumatizing them every time. You have
to remind them, so be I think her expression was
meet them where they're at, let them stop trying to
bring them back, let them be in this reality that
they're in now. And I thought, I've always got to
(11:50):
remember that. I'm hopefully you never have to use it,
you know what. Yeah, totally changing the Gears. So Dancing
with the Starz, the American version is on and everyone's
going wild for Rob Irwin and he's six pack. He's
like fourteen. Still, how old is he? Like twenty one
or something. He's like a twenty adult making still like
(12:13):
a baby.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I don't know when you see them grow up, Like
Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen are still little to me
because they were like, you know, cool dude in Full
of Mouse.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
They went from the cutest, happiest kids is just the
fucking most.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Miserable, just the dart smoking misery girls who are billionaires anyway.
So one of the one of the contestants of it
on it was Hilary Hilarious Balden, who I often send
you clips because I'm like this her Instagram.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
It's like Alec is.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Just almost this fucking abused husband is in all the clips.
You can tell he doesn't want to be he's doing
the dancers with her or just doing something like she's
so crazy with her content and it's almost like weekend
at Bernie's, you know, like he just gets wheeled in
and to do all these bloody ridiculous things on her Instagram.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
It's so embarrassing, and he's not. She doesn't want to
dance with him either. What she wants is to show
how hot she is with her amazing twenty kids and
look at my body still and he's just standing there
and she's doing all these salts of things. The guy
can barely move, so reploiting the elderly, that's what.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
She's clearly so unhinged because listen to this interview that
she did after she got kicked off with dancing with
the stuff. So they've obviously got a podcast or some
show that they do and chat to the contestants after it.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I said to my twelve year old, what if they
get voted off right away? And she said, Mommy, at
least you tried. At least you tried. I opened my
heart and how it's broken again. I key listening.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
I closed the door and down stop there.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
My tolerance for ship like that is so the drama.
I feel like going get a real fucking problem. You're
kicked off fourth and it's like it's opened up this
fucking trauma bucket.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
For her, crying from her ego and she's trying to
dress it up like I thought up bullshit your cut
because you thought you were the best dancer ever and
you will stay in and win it, and your expectation
was not met. Fucking dickhead.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
And her dancing partner's just like roll or basically rolling it.
They zoom in on him once and his eyes are
like going to the side because it's so ludicrous to
console a grown woman who's gone on a dancing show
and he's kicked off and she cannot stop crying in
any interview she does.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
I like, since all that ship came out with the
She's not Culcumber, She's Hilary from Boston. She's not even hilarious.
It's fucking I can see why older people get bitter.
Oh yeah with everybody.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, you know what you just said, though, is she's cut.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I literally thought of that last night. You cut, miss?
Remember saying that to the teacher, Yes, you, miss, don't
get caught. Don't get caught. I remember, and I know
it because, as we've discussed, I say it all the time,
my husband does, my sister does. What do you cut?
Are you cut? Because of that? But it's so funny,
it's orange, Yeah, don't get cut. I can't even mean
(15:40):
what does cut even mean? Doesn't make sense. I guess
it's like a cutting remark or something, you know what
I mean, like you know that expression, a cutting remark
or something that sort of cuts deep. I so vividly remember,
Oh yeah, maybe cuts deep. I so vividly remember calling
the teachers miss and sir, don't get caught. Do you
(16:01):
know what? I love? Every time you do a voice,
especially when it has to do with school, it's like
a wog voice. I know you're thinking of like heartbreak
high or something. Yeah, probably totally. Also, speaking of shows
that are coming out, yes, the Golden Bachelor, Yes, I
just can't watch those shows. I'm like, my time's limited,
(16:23):
I'm not wasting it on.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I know that's a big commitment, but I think I
might give it a crack because you're not gonna have
to the only thing with those shows is you have
to give them enough time to get to know the
characters that are in it.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yes, yes, and characters is the word, right, They're playing
a role. But I have a theory with this one
because all the other ones like and married at first
sight and all of that. I'm like, Okay, we know
now it's you're there for a career, a jumpstart on
a career, and that's fine. But this one I was like,
maybe it really is looking for love. But then I thought, nay,
(16:56):
I don't think that's what it is. I think he's
a nicer looking older man.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Right, how old are we talking? It's probably forty four
or something.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
No, No, no, he's not. I think he might be
in his sixties. Okay, or maybe that's not true. I'll
look that up. But I think that you can imagine
midlife the dating pool is quite shallow yes, would be hard.
I think someone like this guy would not have an
(17:26):
issue meeting anyone. I think he'd have an issue meeting
someone who he feels is up to his level of attractiveness.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Be hard.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
So this is almost like, Oh, they're going to do
that hard work for me. They're going to pull all
the sixty five year old hot chicks. Yeah, okay, yeah,
and then I just pick from them. I don't have
to roll through. I mean, are you on Tinder?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Maybe possibly on something, But yeah, it's a real life swipe,
isn't it. Yes, like this is going to be We're
going to look back on these shows and go, can
you fucking believe that? I said, I still kind of
do with The Bachelor, But this is one man getting
to choose what woman he is going to be with.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
And then just dying for his attention. So fucked up.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
It's actually wild that it's still a thing. You know,
he's on at Abby Chatfield, who was on The Bachelor.
Her mum's on it, is she Yeah, there's some other
people who have got semi profiles. Not that her mum's
got a profile, but she obviously does. But so I
think I'll watch it. But speaking of Abbi Chatfield. Do
you know her boyfriend Kelly Holiday. His real name is
(18:32):
Adam Hyde. Yes, Yes, I've been curly, really curly hair. Yeah,
I am from Peaking Duck.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I have been.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
He's got a song that's done really well in the
ARIA charts that he wrote about Abby.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Dancing and I was dancing to.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
And it comes on like just run my random playlists
and it's a great song actually, and I said, Sam, oh,
you fucking write me a song. But for some reason,
I was like, because I know Abby's thirty, I'm.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Like, wonder how old Adam is. Like, he could be
any age, if you could be, I could be like,
he's around our age. Yeah, well it could be mad
forties or equild be in his late twenties. Anyway, I
looked it up nowhere you cannot find his age anywhere. No,
I'm going to find it. Okay, you've got to try.
I thought it was a challenge for you. Yep, yep.
(19:22):
I looked at and it looked it up and it
said his age is not available anywhere. He was started
Peaking Duck in twenty ten, so you can kind of
guess his age, they're saying, but it's just not anywhere
on the internet. Pretty wild. Yeah, it is. It's almost
like a hark back to remember, like age was very private.
(19:46):
It was just to be like asking someone their age never,
you would never do that. My mum's auntie who passed
away when she was ninety five. Wow, it was only
in her later years that I think even my mum
knew exactly how old she was because it was just
never discussed. And I still like.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
That, Yes, same, It's kind of not a thing you
really ask people now though, do you know what I mean?
Like I would be more inclined to ask a guy
and be like, how old are you? Maybe, But I
do feel like around our age it's quite rude because
there's some women that I see, you know, regularly from
going to the park with Odie and stuff like that.
(20:25):
And I'm an older mum to have Odie.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I had Odie when I was nearly forty, and there's
this other lady who's got younger kids, and I'm like, again,
a Cali holiday could be thirty, could be my age,
and I'm desperate to ask her, but I just don't
feel like I can feel you can't. Can't you have
to suss it out with the other mums. You know
what funny I have to tell you. So I've been
(20:48):
dying to tell you this. A few weeks ago, had
to take Luca to the doctor. Yeah, and we're sitting
there and it's my local doctor, so I'm familiar with
the receptionist and whatever. And she comes out and she's
like a real she's you know, usually medical receptionists are
quite harsh. They are they bore scary. They're scary, right, yes, yes,
(21:09):
like they're abrupt with you. This one is the opposite.
She's like a bit of an airhead. But she's so
nice anyway, and she comes out and she's giving me
this paperwork. I can't remember what it was that she's Oh.
She said to me, I love your hair color. Where
do you get your hair done? And I said, a
lot of it's just like I've gone gray. So I'm
just sort of like ad a bit to it. I
add blonde to it, but it's a lot of it's
(21:30):
just natural gray. She's like, I said, oh, I guess
I'm forty six. And she goes to me, I'm not
saying this to brag. It was just so funn She
stops and she goes what I said young forty six,
and she goes like it was the biggest overreaction I'd
ever seen. What I swear to you, I thought you
(21:51):
were in your mid thirties. Firstly, it was like it
made my day in a way that I can't even
tell her. Absolutely, I would that in a heartbeat. But
the funny thing was that Luca I had just been
yelling at him in the car about something right, and
so I was really in the shits when we got there,
and he goes to me afterwards, when Joyce said that
(22:13):
to you, I was like, Oh, she's gonna be in
a good mood now she's not angry with me anymore.
And I'm like, Joyce saved you and me that day.
A mid thirties is such a beautiful compliment. That's so untrue.
It is so untrue. Actually we don't agree. I think
that you look very young for your age. You haven't
seen me in person for a while. I always talk
(22:35):
about the ring light and all that stuff. I look
my age, But it was just the ah. But then
you know, like I went to a cafe with my
daughter and my my younger cousin who's in her mid twenties,
and the guy came and took our orders and I said,
you know what, I might have it. I can't, but
I've got an alcoholic drink right, and he go and
he's writing it down. I go, aren't you gonna ask
(22:56):
me for ID? He didn't even say like play along
with me. He was just looked at me like fucking okay, mate, sure, sure,
whep out your ID, dickhead.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, there's that time in your life where you like,
all you want is them not to check your ID
because you're under age, and then you get to an
age where they don't ask anymore and you're offended.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
I know, I reckon.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
It happens around twenty four to twenty five they stop asking.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Yeah, probably probably because they're like, yeah, this bitch is
getting older.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Anyway, We're going to get out of here everyone, So
nice to be back in your ear balls. Hit us
up anytime. Show and Tell Podcasts is where you can
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Speaker 1 (23:39):
They start about five bucks a month. But we will
be back, of course very soon. By for now, love you,
Hello, Hello, our friends. We have missed you. It's Mail
of Monthy. It's Mal the Monty, your podcast pals. I've
really missed you. I missed you too.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
This morning when I was setting up my equipment because
we're so professional, were just sitting in her bedroom on
the floor, and I'm sitting at my dining table and
we set up our gear every time and pack it down.
But as I was packing it, like setting it up,
I was like, oh, I'm a big nervous same because
we had a few weeks off, which for us is
quite rare. I think over like the ten years we've
(00:40):
been doing this. Last year we had a break for
the first time. Yes, that's so fucking weird. What martyrs
we are?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Why?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
But I think we do need to schedule those in
a little bit more. Just I totally agree, Yeah, because
I was. I was actually really excited.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah and hap yeah same to come back. Yeah me,
I was exactly the same anyway. So we did have
a couple of weeks off. I went it was the
school holidays, I went to Melbourne and then my health
flared up. So I'm like, I just need a break
and Mail. You've just been working your little bloody fingers
to the bones. Yes, because this is like our main
socializing as well, which is.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Terrible because we're not even in the same room.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
But it's like, oh, and I had it yesterday because
I've moved to Byron and away from my old friends
like Stace, my best mate. It's I haven't seen her
in nearly a year because whenever I've been in Melbourne,
she's been away and it's fucked and I miss her
so much. So yesterday we set up a teams meeting
and just at each other and chatted and we're like,
(01:40):
every second Monday, let's have a cup of tea on
a team's like a you know, zoom call, and then
you just feel like you've seen each other and just
caught up that way.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
That's such a great idea. Yeah, So we've just got
to do I've just got to make more of an.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Effort to keep connections up with because you just get
into such a pattern and a routine of your day
to day life and then I go along and I'm like, fuck,
I'm actually lonely because I don't I have moved and
I've been here nearly five years, but you're so busy
with kids and now my kids are at other schools
(02:14):
that I don't get out and see people at the
school ground where that used to fill your social cup
a bit more.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
So, I just go through stages where I'm like, fuck,
I'm actually quite lonely, Like I've got to make more
of an effort. That's the really hard thing about midlife,
I think, is that you need the connection, but you're
all so busy, yes, busy working kids, family, you might
have parents that need extra help. It's like this weird.
(02:41):
I don't know the time that you think, yes should
be you should be oh god, the kids are a
bit older now, I should be a bit freer, but
you're actually not.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
No, it's really yeah, it's and everyone's the same because
you're like, oh, let's go for a walk, and it
takes you bloody two weeks to even book in a walk.
But I was saying to Stace, like, you know, because
we lived in opposite opposite parts of Melbourne when we
lived there, and I said, if I was to move back,
we still wouldn't see each other very much because we
(03:12):
used to see each other weekly because we would podcast
at my house and Stace used to podcast and we
used to do show and tell stuff. So it was
like a booked in socializing slash work. And I also
had that with the three pm pickup, where it was
like that was my social you know, seeing I got
to work with my mates, so that was my huge
(03:33):
social outlet. Yeah, and I just am like, oh, yeah,
you don't.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
You're not.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I'm not keeping up enough with friendships. I feel like
you just and they do take nurturing and work. Even
though you pick up where you're left off with old friends,
it's like you still got to put in the effort
to stay connected.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
It's like everything takes max effort. Yeah, and I can't,
I know, but we do have to, like you have
to make more effort with everything, yeah, hundred percent. Yeah.
Speaking of making effort with things, I just sent you
a clip of this new little documentary that's coming out
(04:15):
with Chris Hemsworth. It's called a road Trip to Remember.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Oh my god, it's side note his kids play soccer
same night as mine.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Oh yeah, your friend Chris Hemsworth, my friend, my mate,
Chris Hemsworth. Not at all that there was this kid
riding around doing tricks on an e bike. Every kid
here has an e bike.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
By the way, what are they the ones with the motor.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
It's a motorbike. It's a motorbike in the form that
looks like a bike. And my son has just said,
and I'm surprised it's taken him so long, but he's like,
can we please go halves in an e bike? I
can ride to work, I can ride into town and
see my friends. And we're like, actually, we'll be convenient.
And I noticed in Melbourne that no one had one
because everything's so spread out. We're here, everything's quite close. Yeah,
(05:00):
but some of them like, put three kids on the
fucking bike with you no helmets. I'm like, I've got
all these rules. He has to do a road rules test,
he has to like, can't We're going to cap the kilometers.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
He can go out anyway. Whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
So I see this kid doing tricks on the soccer
field on this bike. Young be about twelve, but in
my head, I'm like, that's the fucking best looking kid
I've ever seen. And then I see him walk over
to his twin brother and Elsa, and I'm like, it's a.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Hem's worth kid. Of course, it is no wonder they've got.
Look at those jeans. The jeans well This documentary is
about a road trip that Chris Hemsworth is taking with
his dad because his dad has dementia.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I love this photo. Just stand over there and film me.
My dad and I are going on a road trip.
That wrong way, mate, it's been that round, going to
act into our past. This is the opening titles to
the greatest film ever made. He has early stage Alzheimers.
(06:07):
I want to do everything I can to help him.
It turns out this experience could help fight the disease.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
From what I get from the trailer, the idea behind
it is that they're going back to where you know
the family was raised, which I think was Philip islon Piland. Yeah,
and they're on motorbikes, which is ce the tools. Yes, well,
I think it's together they've recreated the family home as
it was.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
So did that because I because in the clip which
I cried in the first two seconds because Chris is
getting emotional straight away. But yeah, that it shows footage
of them going back into a house with photos and
everything like that. So they wouldn't still have their house
set up in Philip Island exactly the same as it
was when they lived their full time. So did they
(06:53):
create the scene again.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I can imagine that they're not living in Philip Island anymore,
that maybe they've either rented or purchased that house and
refitted out exactly the same as it was I did. Yeah,
I mean the budget, the budget would be good. Well,
it would actually have to be their old house, yes,
because the dad walks in and they're just like a
(07:16):
gush of old memories and there's pictures of the boys
in frames and stuff like that, which that's what I'm like.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
It still wouldn't be set up like that, but Christine
it also says it can actually help with the disease
visiting and re triggering those memories.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
This is what I had to tell you, because when
I saw it, it immediately reminded me of this other
thing that I'd seen online, which was this neuroscientist that
was talking about they did this experiment where they took
a group of eighty year old men. Yeah, and she
said they were not like the words she used were
it's not like now that eighties, the new sixty. It
(07:52):
was like they were old. Okay, yeah, right, she said,
And we retrofitted this place to make it look like
it was from twenty years earlier. So they had the
same sort of like the TVs that would have been
in at the time, showing the programs on television that
were in at the time, all that sort of stuff.
They talked about like they were living in that moment
(08:14):
and they were talking about the events that were happening
during that time and stuff. Yeah. Right, they noticed within
one week their vision improved, Oh my god, their memory improved,
their cognitive function improved, all because they had gone back
to the state of mind that they were. Wow. Now,
(08:34):
obviously these aren't people with dementia, but I do think
there's something in that. Yeah, the recollection of memories or
a time or something like that. Maybe it can tap
into something like that. But it looks incredibly moving, like,
oh my god, it.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Looks very emotional and also and it leaves one of
the things, what are you most scared of? And like
it cuts so you know, to make you watch it.
But yeah, I wonder what he's dad says that he's
most scared of. I think it would be and there'd
be a heap of you listening whose parents or somebody
you know has dementia or Alzheimer's. I just think it
(09:10):
would be so fucking terrifying at the start, when you
are aware of what's.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Going to happen.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, like with my power, he just stopped remembering people's names.
So then he wanted and he was the most social
person of all times, so then he felt uncomfortable going
down the street because he didn't want to use people's name,
like you know, see people and not use their names.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Little things like that. I remember he never forgot you
guys though, Like if you went to at the very end,
I could see that he Yeah, didn't, yeh didn't. Like
I think he knew we were familiar, but not he
wouldn't have been able to say our names. The transition
stage would be the worst, where you're aware that you're forgetting.
(09:52):
That's what I reckon.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah's where you know where you're like, fuck, I can't
find that in my brain. Like my stepdad doesn't have
Alzheimer's or dementia, that his memory is not great and
he knows that it's not and so he'll just I
can see that it bothers him, and he says how
much it bothers him, And I'm like, that would be
so frustrating, frustrating going through your files and your brain
and not being able to find what you want. It
(10:15):
would feel really scary and really uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Well, just think of us now at this state. You know,
the word recall is a thing for me at the moment,
like what I'm trying to say, can you get me
the And it's like I'm trying to say, I don't
know paper, but it's like the word's not coming totally yet.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
My sister's like, find your words, find your words. She
doesn't have brain fogs, she doesn't have kids. I reckon
having kids, and she's not going through perimenopause. But I'm like,
the brain fog is so real, and trying to find words,
I'm like, you're fucking kidding me?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Where are you? It'ld be so simple, like can you
get the earth? I know? Twel like I know. I
think the most hurtful thing with dementia and stuff is
that your memories are sort of make up who you are,
and you lose who you are. There was I'll say
one other thing that I saw that was really really interesting.
(11:07):
It was a nurse who was doing a talk to
families of dementia patients, and she said, what people often
do is try and bring them back to reality. So
you might have a situation where the person says, oh,
I'll get dad to look at that when he gets home,
and then the kids are like, no, mom, dad died
ten years ago. And she's like what what and there's
(11:29):
this trauma. And then ten minutes later she says it again,
I'll get dad to do this, and they say no, Mum,
And she said, you're retraumatizing them every time. You have
to remind them, so be I think her expression was
meet them where they're at, let them stop trying to
bring them back, let them be in this reality that
they're in now. And I thought, I've always got to
(11:50):
remember that. I'm hopefully you never have to use it,
you know what. Yeah, totally changing the Gears. So Dancing
with the Starz, the American version is on and everyone's
going wild for Rob Irwin and he's six pack. He's
like fourteen. Still, how old is he? Like twenty one
or something. He's like a twenty adult making still like
(12:13):
a baby.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I don't know when you see them grow up, Like
Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen are still little to me
because they were like, you know, cool dude in Full
of Mouse.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
They went from the cutest, happiest kids is just the
fucking most.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Miserable, just the dart smoking misery girls who are billionaires anyway.
So one of the one of the contestants of it
on it was Hilary Hilarious Balden, who I often send
you clips because I'm like this her Instagram.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
It's like Alec is.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Just almost this fucking abused husband is in all the clips.
You can tell he doesn't want to be he's doing
the dancers with her or just doing something like she's
so crazy with her content and it's almost like weekend
at Bernie's, you know, like he just gets wheeled in
and to do all these bloody ridiculous things on her Instagram.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
It's so embarrassing, and he's not. She doesn't want to
dance with him either. What she wants is to show
how hot she is with her amazing twenty kids and
look at my body still and he's just standing there
and she's doing all these salts of things. The guy
can barely move, so reploiting the elderly, that's what.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
She's clearly so unhinged because listen to this interview that
she did after she got kicked off with dancing with
the stuff. So they've obviously got a podcast or some
show that they do and chat to the contestants after it.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I said to my twelve year old, what if they
get voted off right away? And she said, Mommy, at
least you tried. At least you tried. I opened my
heart and how it's broken again. I key listening.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
I closed the door and down stop there.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
My tolerance for ship like that is so the drama.
I feel like going get a real fucking problem. You're
kicked off fourth and it's like it's opened up this
fucking trauma bucket.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
For her, crying from her ego and she's trying to
dress it up like I thought up bullshit your cut
because you thought you were the best dancer ever and
you will stay in and win it, and your expectation
was not met. Fucking dickhead.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
And her dancing partner's just like roll or basically rolling it.
They zoom in on him once and his eyes are
like going to the side because it's so ludicrous to
console a grown woman who's gone on a dancing show
and he's kicked off and she cannot stop crying in
any interview she does.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
I like, since all that ship came out with the
She's not Culcumber, She's Hilary from Boston. She's not even hilarious.
It's fucking I can see why older people get bitter.
Oh yeah with everybody.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, you know what you just said, though, is she's cut.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I literally thought of that last night. You cut, miss?
Remember saying that to the teacher, Yes, you, miss, don't
get caught. Don't get caught. I remember, and I know
it because, as we've discussed, I say it all the time,
my husband does, my sister does. What do you cut?
Are you cut? Because of that? But it's so funny,
it's orange, Yeah, don't get cut. I can't even mean
(15:40):
what does cut even mean? Doesn't make sense. I guess
it's like a cutting remark or something, you know what
I mean, like you know that expression, a cutting remark
or something that sort of cuts deep. I so vividly remember,
Oh yeah, maybe cuts deep. I so vividly remember calling
the teachers miss and sir, don't get caught. Do you
(16:01):
know what? I love? Every time you do a voice,
especially when it has to do with school, it's like
a wog voice. I know you're thinking of like heartbreak
high or something. Yeah, probably totally. Also, speaking of shows
that are coming out, yes, the Golden Bachelor, Yes, I
just can't watch those shows. I'm like, my time's limited,
(16:23):
I'm not wasting it on.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I know that's a big commitment, but I think I
might give it a crack because you're not gonna have
to the only thing with those shows is you have
to give them enough time to get to know the
characters that are in it.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yes, yes, and characters is the word, right, They're playing
a role. But I have a theory with this one
because all the other ones like and married at first
sight and all of that. I'm like, Okay, we know
now it's you're there for a career, a jumpstart on
a career, and that's fine. But this one I was like,
maybe it really is looking for love. But then I thought, nay,
(16:56):
I don't think that's what it is. I think he's
a nicer looking older man.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Right, how old are we talking? It's probably forty four
or something.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
No, No, no, he's not. I think he might be
in his sixties. Okay, or maybe that's not true. I'll
look that up. But I think that you can imagine
midlife the dating pool is quite shallow yes, would be hard.
I think someone like this guy would not have an
(17:26):
issue meeting anyone. I think he'd have an issue meeting
someone who he feels is up to his level of attractiveness.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Be hard.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
So this is almost like, Oh, they're going to do
that hard work for me. They're going to pull all
the sixty five year old hot chicks. Yeah, okay, yeah,
and then I just pick from them. I don't have
to roll through. I mean, are you on Tinder?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Maybe possibly on something, But yeah, it's a real life swipe,
isn't it. Yes, like this is going to be We're
going to look back on these shows and go, can
you fucking believe that? I said, I still kind of
do with The Bachelor, But this is one man getting
to choose what woman he is going to be with.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
And then just dying for his attention. So fucked up.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
It's actually wild that it's still a thing. You know,
he's on at Abby Chatfield, who was on The Bachelor.
Her mum's on it, is she Yeah, there's some other
people who have got semi profiles. Not that her mum's
got a profile, but she obviously does. But so I
think I'll watch it. But speaking of Abbi Chatfield. Do
you know her boyfriend Kelly Holiday. His real name is
(18:32):
Adam Hyde. Yes, Yes, I've been curly, really curly hair. Yeah,
I am from Peaking Duck.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I have been.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
He's got a song that's done really well in the
ARIA charts that he wrote about Abby.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Dancing and I was dancing to.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
And it comes on like just run my random playlists
and it's a great song actually, and I said, Sam, oh,
you fucking write me a song. But for some reason,
I was like, because I know Abby's thirty, I'm.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Like, wonder how old Adam is. Like, he could be
any age, if you could be, I could be like,
he's around our age. Yeah, well it could be mad
forties or equild be in his late twenties. Anyway, I
looked it up nowhere you cannot find his age anywhere. No,
I'm going to find it. Okay, you've got to try.
I thought it was a challenge for you. Yep, yep.
(19:22):
I looked at and it looked it up and it
said his age is not available anywhere. He was started
Peaking Duck in twenty ten, so you can kind of
guess his age, they're saying, but it's just not anywhere
on the internet. Pretty wild. Yeah, it is. It's almost
like a hark back to remember, like age was very private.
(19:46):
It was just to be like asking someone their age never,
you would never do that. My mum's auntie who passed
away when she was ninety five. Wow, it was only
in her later years that I think even my mum
knew exactly how old she was because it was just
never discussed. And I still like.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
That, Yes, same, It's kind of not a thing you
really ask people now though, do you know what I mean?
Like I would be more inclined to ask a guy
and be like, how old are you? Maybe, But I
do feel like around our age it's quite rude because
there's some women that I see, you know, regularly from
going to the park with Odie and stuff like that.
(20:25):
And I'm an older mum to have Odie.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I had Odie when I was nearly forty, and there's
this other lady who's got younger kids, and I'm like, again,
a Cali holiday could be thirty, could be my age,
and I'm desperate to ask her, but I just don't
feel like I can feel you can't. Can't you have
to suss it out with the other mums. You know
what funny I have to tell you. So I've been
(20:48):
dying to tell you this. A few weeks ago, had
to take Luca to the doctor. Yeah, and we're sitting
there and it's my local doctor, so I'm familiar with
the receptionist and whatever. And she comes out and she's
like a real she's you know, usually medical receptionists are
quite harsh. They are they bore scary. They're scary, right, yes, yes,
(21:09):
like they're abrupt with you. This one is the opposite.
She's like a bit of an airhead. But she's so
nice anyway, and she comes out and she's giving me
this paperwork. I can't remember what it was that she's Oh.
She said to me, I love your hair color. Where
do you get your hair done? And I said, a
lot of it's just like I've gone gray. So I'm
just sort of like ad a bit to it. I
add blonde to it, but it's a lot of it's
(21:30):
just natural gray. She's like, I said, oh, I guess
I'm forty six. And she goes to me, I'm not
saying this to brag. It was just so funn She
stops and she goes what I said young forty six,
and she goes like it was the biggest overreaction I'd
ever seen. What I swear to you, I thought you
(21:51):
were in your mid thirties. Firstly, it was like it
made my day in a way that I can't even
tell her. Absolutely, I would that in a heartbeat. But
the funny thing was that Luca I had just been
yelling at him in the car about something right, and
so I was really in the shits when we got there,
and he goes to me afterwards, when Joyce said that
(22:13):
to you, I was like, Oh, she's gonna be in
a good mood now she's not angry with me anymore.
And I'm like, Joyce saved you and me that day.
A mid thirties is such a beautiful compliment. That's so untrue.
It is so untrue. Actually we don't agree. I think
that you look very young for your age. You haven't
seen me in person for a while. I always talk
(22:35):
about the ring light and all that stuff. I look
my age, But it was just the ah. But then
you know, like I went to a cafe with my
daughter and my my younger cousin who's in her mid twenties,
and the guy came and took our orders and I said,
you know what, I might have it. I can't, but
I've got an alcoholic drink right, and he go and
he's writing it down. I go, aren't you gonna ask
(22:56):
me for ID? He didn't even say like play along
with me. He was just looked at me like fucking okay, mate, sure, sure,
whep out your ID, dickhead.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, there's that time in your life where you like,
all you want is them not to check your ID
because you're under age, and then you get to an
age where they don't ask anymore and you're offended.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
I know, I reckon.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
It happens around twenty four to twenty five they stop asking.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Yeah, probably probably because they're like, yeah, this bitch is
getting older.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Anyway, We're going to get out of here everyone, So
nice to be back in your ear balls. Hit us
up anytime. Show and Tell Podcasts is where you can
find us. We do a Patreon, which is like an
extra little podcast every couple of weeks. So Patreon dot com,
Forward Slash Show and Teal Online is where you can
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Speaker 1 (23:39):
They start about five bucks a month. But we will
be back, of course very soon. By for now, love you,
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