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November 19, 2025 • 28 mins

Today is our 600th episode, and in true S+T fashion, we're all over the joint. Mel talks about the concept of celebrating a 'day day' she saw on the Shameless podcast insta page, and calculates how many days old we are - and it turns out, one of us has a big day day on the horizon.

We also have a bit of a judge about Meghan Markle and her bid to be relatable, and Britney's weasel ex-husband Kevin Federline and his new tell-all book. We also share our Loving and Loathings, and why we're conflicted about the new Michael Jackson's biopic. Enjoy!

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
It's number six hundred, wells six hundred years old. We
are dinosaurs, dinosaurs. It's malam Monty. Oh, happy birthday, Happy birthday.
This is the six hundredth episode of Show and Tell,
which is fucking wild.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Who would think you'd have that much to talk about
for people who like to talk.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
We feel it legitimately. We have sometimes like at the
start of the podcast, Okay, what have you got? What
do you want to talk about? And then we're like,
we've got way too much, so it just rolls on
and on and on. Anyway, thank you so much for listening,
because if you weren't listening, we obviously wouldn't be doing
the podcast. But I know, I don't know how many
of you, but quite a few of you have been

(00:59):
with us from day one, which is phenomenons. Yeah, thanks
so much. I bet you we've made you so much smarter.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
You know it's going to make you smarter what we've
watched your fact for today? Okay, did you know that
high heels were invented in the sixteen hundreds as a
disease prevention measure, so men wore them as well, and
the idea was to avoid walking around all like the
sewage and stuff on the streets. Sewage, sewerage, sewage, sewerridge.

(01:35):
Fuck mate, sorry, I mean so much. My family do
this to me too, and it really fucking pisces me off.
Anytime I'm just pronounced something, they jump on me. Well,
don't talk wrong, oh my god. Mate. Anyway, so to
avoid their skin coming in contact with all the ship

(01:56):
and stuff on the streets, they wore high heels to
keep them elevated off the ground. Did you know that
from a mate? The sixteen hundreds did not know how
high heels is so uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
I wear wedges because I'm like, I need height, but
also I hate a high heel.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
They're so uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Whenever I think of a man wearing high heels, I
think a prince always yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Although he's the only person I can think of.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, I know, I don't know who else would, but
he always is to wear like he was the tiniest man,
these huge, huge heels, like not the stiletto, but a
heel he would wear.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
I love a heel. It completely changes how I feel.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
It makes you feel powerful, It makes your legs look amazing.
It is definitely a power move to wear a high heel,
but it's very I'm very.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Awkward in them. I'm not good at walking in high Yes, well,
wedges will give you the height anyway. So, speaking of birthdays, yes,
last week I saw a clip on shameless yep, I
was talking about her brother. They just celebrated his ten
thousandth day. Day. So he's ten thousand day of being alive.

(03:10):
And why aren't we celebrating this? The days, the day
many days you've been alive. It's so random to do that.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
I never ever, ever would think of the amount of
days I am alive for, but it's so much more impressive.
Yeah it is, you're right, right, yeah, anyway, So of course,
so hold on, what does ten thousand days equate to
how old?

Speaker 2 (03:31):
I don't know. I didn't look it up. I think
maybe I would assume maybe twenty twenty five or something
in your twenties, right anyway, Okay, So I worked out
how many days we've been alone? Oh God, don't no, No,
it's not that bad. You've been alive for sixteen thousand,
one hundred and ninety nine days. Wow, when you think

(03:51):
of so many, I don't know if it's so many
or not as many as I expected.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
I feel like it's like that think of thousand, like,
that's a that is forty four years.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
To clock that up. That to me is a lot
of days. I don't like celebrating the days. I want
to celebrate the years still. Think of how many things
we could have achieved in all that?

Speaker 1 (04:11):
See, that's what almost I go how many of those
did I waste? Like I would have out of the
sixteen thousand whatever I would have slept, fifteen thousand of
them probably got to bed.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Okay, but this is so weird the amount of googling
I had to do for these fucking like, I am
so bad with numbers to get these calculations. I couldn't
believe it. But I've been alive for sixteen thousand, nine
hundred and sixty days, right, Yeah, this means that I'm
coming up to celebrating my seventeen thousand day day. What
do you want to do for it?

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Celebrate how we have our six hundredth and do absolutely nothing.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
This is the thing I googled. How many Like when
I'm going to hit the seventeen thousandth day? Yeah, it's
on my mum's birthday, the twenty third of December. My
mum's seventieth birthday and it's want to be your seventeenth.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
There's a seven in there, two sevens.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
So guess who's going to hijack her birthday? Yeah? You me? Yeah,
she's seventy, But did you know I'm seventeen thousand days eight?
You will tell everyone that.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
But also that's pretty amazing odds that it falls on
the actual data up. Yes, yeah, there's a new thing
to celebrate. But do you celebrate on the thousands? Is
that how you celebrate? You?

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Reckon? If you're doing days, I would say maybe you're
celebrating on the whole, like seventeen thousand, eighteen thousand, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
So when you're clock over the next thousand, yeah, okay,
agree anyway, change completely changing gears. But I saw a
clip of Megan Markle the other day and look, we
don't want to, like can anyone?

Speaker 2 (05:45):
But she's such how we say that and then we
just look, we don't want to, We don't judge, but
the place you come not to judge, and then we judge.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
We judge everyone and every single thing. But just her
trying to be relatable, It's like, mate, there's nothing relatable
about you. You weren't relatable when you were an actressy,
because your life is so completely different when you are famous,
but then to be a princess or whatever she is,
it's like your life is wild. Your husband has probably

(06:15):
left the castle six sixty times or something like that.
Like your life is very different. I know they don't
live at the castle anymore, but her husband's upbringing, Like
you don't get any more different than that. Anyways, I
just wanted to play you a clip of her trying
to talk about before she was famous and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
It's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
You know. I used to teach gift wrapping and paper
source and advances gift wrapping, so you know, all of
those things that you do as an auditioning actor. That's
one of the full circle I was expecting.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Because here we are.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah, you had a lot of odd jobs. Fro Yo
it was another one. Oh yeah, hung for yoga. That
was my first job. And you know when I used
to do calligraphy.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
I used to do for so many celebrity weddings and
for hotels and that was in between auditions and I
at the time, I don't know why thing to just
buy a glove, but you don't want the natural oils
from your hands to get on the beautiful paper. So
I've just put a way tub stuck on my hand.

Speaker 5 (07:15):
All these very fancy cards for people amazing all night.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
My god, can I say this is so horrible because
she's probably a lovely person. I don't trust anything she says.
I don't believe she did calligraphy for tell me one person.
I don't believe it. I think everything she puts out
there is very carefully constructed. You know what it is

(07:42):
that the off feeling people get with her? Yes, inauthenticity,
It is inauthentic. And also it's like, you know, trying
to relate with jobs and stuff like froyo, Yes, gift wrapping,
advanced gift wrapping classes? Are you joking? And then on
top of that.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Calligraphy, it's like I just am like, there's nothing relatable
about being able.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
To do calligraphy.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Although remember when we were kids, what a novelty it
was to get.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Like a little glassed glass thing of ink and a
fountain pen. I never did it with the dipping and
the ink, didn't you? No? Never? Oh you mean like
a fool like a quill with the.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Feetally no, not with the feather, but like the tip.
Oh my god, I want to get a calligraphy pen.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Listen. I've bought them not that long ago from Kmart
A book I bought, like a calligraphy book that's got
the lines. It's almost like remember in primary school there
were the lines, like that sort of thing, because a
lot of it. The thing about great writing is the
uniformity of the letters. Like you know, usually when you're writing,

(08:51):
it's like shit's just all over the place. But when
people do that special calligraphy lettering, it's like all the lowercase,
the top and the bottom, all the line perfect. Yeah,
can you do that? Well? Not really. I used to
have really good handwriting. Now you can't. It's not even legible.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
I love nice handwriting. Yeah's handwriting. It's what is with
doctor's handwriting. But I love when you see somebody and
you're like, that's such beautiful handwriting.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Especially when we distinct that we all.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, everyone's handwriting is so distinct that you know, like
if any of my friends sent me something handwritten, I
know straight away who it is.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yes, yes, funny, Yeah it is funny. But yeah, no, Megan,
I I cannot warm to her. No, neither. I'm probably
gonna cut this out because I'll get like, people get angry. Oh,
this is very controversial. It's not that I think they're
bad people. I think they are amazing people and amazing
role models. I get that sort of feeling with the Irwins,

(09:51):
and I hate saying that because I know how I
loved they are. Yes, yeah, I know what you mean.
It is there's something. It's so it's so showbiz. It's like,
is there anything?

Speaker 1 (10:03):
But did you see the other week Bob url and
like Bindi went on Dancing with the Stars and then
he broke down. But I just was like, oh, they
put up pictures of Steve, so I think that's why
he got upset. But as I even the headline, I
was like, oh, of course you did. I just I know,
you mean where there's some people where you just go
there's you can't seem to get to the next level

(10:27):
with them. Not that you can with any celebrity because
it's all what they portray. But sometimes what they portray
is like that's not can't be real life.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
I know it's I think it's like the and you know,
who the fuck am I judge? But I feel like
we can say it because we've both lost a parent,
so like, yes, but it's I think it's the like
the falling to his knees. It's the drama of drama
of it. I just thought I get that you'd shedd it,
tear or you put your head in your hands or whatever.

(10:55):
But and then they're all hugging him, and I don't know,
I don't know. I just can't. I'm going to get handled.
You're not gonna who cares? You're like because people people
really love them and I'm not. But yes, I get
what you mean.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
It is the drama and the over the topness of
it that makes you think it's insincere. But I hate
when somebody hurts himself and they're really dramatic. Arlo does
it like he gets over it quickly, but he will
like drag his leg behind him or something like that.
I'm like, oh, I can't have any sympathy for you
when the drama is involved, like pull yourself out of it.

(11:34):
So the Michael Jackson bio or is it biopic? Is
that what you call it? Or biopic?

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah? Have you seen it? I haven't even a trailer? Okay,
So I watched it the other day. The guy that's
playing Michael Jackson is his nephew sonar Okay, it looks
pretty fucking good, like justice, the music and all that that.

Speaker 5 (12:01):
You know.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Straight away my head I was like, oh fuck, that
looks great. That'd be good at the cinema loud. Then
the other part of me is like, I actually, look,
who knows. I do believe that he probably did some
very wrong things, same kids. And it's that feeling of
how conflict did you feel? Because ah, it's indisputable he

(12:27):
was a genius, yes, But imagine those victims or potential
alleged victims seeing that.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yeah, I know, I know, I think the same thing
because you can't. It was like when it all happened,
remember radio stations pulled his music, and yet yeah, you
felt like you couldn't listen to his music anymore. But
then as time goes on, it drips back in at
the party.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
And all of a sudden they start playing like don't
stop to your good enough.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
And everyone dances. Where for those victims, their life is
still completely fucked. But because time has passed and he
wasn't he was never proven guilty, was he Although.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
No, he wasn't. And I looked into it a little
bit last night, and I was like, oh, the first kid,
it was definitely like the dad wanted to extort him
out of money, like like there was some real shifty
shit going on. So that's questionable. But it was actually
one of our first podcasts. We talked about that Finding
Neverland documentary that came out.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Oh, which was actually so weird where it was like
blanket blanket and had the was that where.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
He was talking thinking of a different one. This was
the one with the two guys that were with him
when they were kids, and they came out and they
were talking about it. One of them was a choreographer,
an ossie guy. He'd choreographed some of Britney Spears stuff.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, and she's the one. He's the one who had
an affair with Britney Spears. Is it Dwayne or something?

Speaker 4 (13:53):
No?

Speaker 2 (13:53):
No, no, no, his name was Wade Wade.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
So he's the one who had an affair with Britney Spears, yes,
and then broke her and Justin Tim blake up.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, and they were very like, I mean, they said
some stuff that I was sort of like, I don't
even think they were asking for money. I don't w
around that, But I'm like, why would you do would
why would you do it? Why would you? Like? They
it was very descriptive the stuff they talked about, and
I'm just like, Oh, there's something weird in when someone

(14:25):
has a talent, Like I feel this way about Ozzy
Osbourne too, because I really liked his music and when
he died it's like all these tributes to Ozzie and
like he was amazing. But he also was a drunk
and a drug addict who tried to kill his wife.
He killed their seventeen cats on a bender once, what
strangled her and almost killed her once. And I'm like,

(14:46):
A he owned up to that. Yeah, and he owned
up to it all, which I think is the thing
that sort of makes him god. I guess maybe a
little bit different that he never ran away from who
he was. Like I was an addict and I did
fucked up. She how did he kill the cats? I
don't know how he did it, but she came home
because she managed him and stuff too.

Speaker 5 (15:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, apparently she walked in and he'd killed all seventeen
cats because he was that psychotic god.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Seventeen cats is just for starters, anyone having seventeen cats
is wild. But the fact that he just was that
out of his mind that he killed all the cats,
I have never heard that is so wild.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
I think of people when they're on ice. You know,
there's a story terrifying about the girl that pulled her
eyes out in the emergency. No. Yeah, yeah, Oh my god.
It makes you, It makes you completely hallucinate. I think
it's terrible.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Terrib Ice terrifies me. I bought it up with backs
the other day because I just you know, I said,
have you heard of ice? And he said no, And
I said, it is a drug that will absolutely ruin
your life and everyone else around you. It is the
most hideous drug. So if ever you hear about ice,
you are to stay so clear of it. Because I

(16:01):
know that they're going to dabble at some point with
different drugs. But I'm like, never ever ever to try ice.
It's so scary to me. It's like there's no coming
back from that. I know some people do, but you're
not coming back from being an ice addict. No.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
I think there's one of those ones they say. I
think very much like heroin that it's like the first time,
the first time you hooked. Yes, I've always.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Had about Heroin too, Like growing up, I was obsessed
with Heroin. I just found it so fascinating because it
terrified me. And I always was like, oh, yeah, you
have one hit and then you're constantly chasing the dragon.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Oh so scary. But yeah, I don't know if i'll
watch that or not eat. I don't. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
It feels icky, but then it's also yeah, yeah, it
just is. It's quite strange that they're doing another one,
but on a different celebrity who is so unbelievably unstable
and unhealthy. Britney spears like I just whenever she up
dancing and pulling her pants down and stuff, I'm like,
oh my god, she doesn't have a soul in.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
The world to help her.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
But for some reason I clicked on I'm listening to
audio books. Not for some reason, I was like, I
want to have a listen to this Kevin Ferdland's book
I forget what it's called. I listened to the first
maybe three chapters, and then I'm like, I felt so
guilty and so hid is because he started to go
in to like he's at the start, it's all fine,

(17:29):
but then he starts to go in when Britney starts
to unravel and how she fight all the security guards
because one of them gave him weed even though she
knew he was a weed smoker. And then he goes
into how he went on tour with her and she
left the room and they walked past the door and
she was making out with her assistant or something like that.
And that's when I was like, oh, you're like, this

(17:51):
isn't yours, just your story. You're fucking her like it
so and so I stopped and felt really icky I'd
done that.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
He's like the worst kind of person, Like he has
the insecurity that he's still you know when a couple
split up and then all they do is bad mouth
for each other, Yes, whatever, Like fucking get on with
your life. Kevin fetterline, you're so attached to her because
she was someone and you weren't.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Also in it at the start, is like this is
my side of the story. It's like called you thought
you knew or something, and I'm like, no one thought
about you in fifteen years. You do not need to
air your side of the story.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
It was so weird.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
It just went into like I need to clear this up.
I know people's thoughts of me, and I'm like, you
would be so sad if you realized how little people
do think about you.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
And what about those kids?

Speaker 1 (18:47):
I know? And he's like, my boys are old enough
now and blah blah blah. But apparently she's only seen them,
like because remember she posted a video of her son
playing the piano and stuff, but she wrote the other
day that she hasn't seen one in god knows how long,
and she's only seen the other one for forty five minutes.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Like it's just so sad.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
I just look at it, and I'm like, I'm so sad.
We're all just watching somebody who's completely unraveled and you
can't look away.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
No, I hate saying it, but it feels like she's
too far gone. She's just agrees. Is it the medication?
Is it? I don't know, but it's just sad. It's
a caution, retail, don't let your kids get into showbies.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Oh my god, I know it's so wild. Anyway, let's
finish up on loving and loathing before we get out
of here. This is a segment Mal suggested, and normally
she suggests them and then they never ever come back.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Although we did this for a long time. I actually
think this was yours, was it?

Speaker 1 (19:46):
I mean the ones that we that are good usually
am mine anyway. Okay, so this is what made me
think of it, because I'm like, let's do loving and
loathing every night, and most people will be like not
even my kids will eat them. I will have a
cup of tea and a banjo carib bear and I

(20:07):
am loving it.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
I don't even know what that is. Carib is carib buds.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
I love carib buds and they used to be yes exactly,
they used to win. These shops have peppermint carib buds
and oh my god, I loved them so much. Anyway,
no one likes carib. I cannot get enough carib and
I'm loving it. And again I feel like it's healthy,
even though it's not. But I love unzipping it. It's like,

(20:36):
you know, just a shit version of it, not even
ship version of a Fretto frog in those little packs.
But it's called a banjo bear and I dunk it
into my tea. Oh the joy it brings me, Like, yeah,
I love doing that and it melts it a bit.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Oh well, it's your little ritual. I think that's a
good thing.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah, I'm loving it at the moment. What are you loving?

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Oh my god, I can't believe I'm gonna say this. Okay,
here we go. But you know, I admit when I'm
wrong about things. Fucking love that Taylor Swift song which
one Ophelia one? Yeah, can you play it from me
a bit now? Yeah? I like it too. I tell

(21:21):
you something. We're in the car and it came on
and I said to my daughter, I really like this song.
Is this Lana del Raikes sounds a bit like her?
She goes, Mom, it's Taylor Swift.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
You know.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
I was like, I felt like I'd just been caught cheating.
You what Taylor Swift? And I was like, maybe I
don't really like it? And then I listened to it.
It's good and Elizabeth Taylor. I like that song. I
haven't gone beyond that song.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Listen to Elizabeth Taylor. If you listen to it two times,
it's really catchy. But I've started two times, two times yep, Verista.
But I started that app couch to five K. I
just want to jogging again.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
I had that on my phone I reckon whenever phones
first came out. Yeah, I had that.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yes, anyway, it's if you want it, because I'm not
a natural runner and I'm just like, I just want
something I can do instead of booking into a pilates class.
So it's like the first session is a minute and
a half walk, a minute jog, a minute and a
half walk, a minute jog, and it does it like
ten times. Anyway, I've got a playlist and on it
is a Taylor Swift song.

Speaker 5 (22:32):
This one it's the Calmer song, and that's the one
she sang on stage going home like I'm going or
the guy from the Chiefs is coming home to me
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
I don't know the exact lyrics. You sound like you're
a fan right now. I'm not a fan, but this
she sang about whatever, like you know the backstories, don't
you remember it?

Speaker 1 (23:03):
At a concert she changed the words and everyone went,
I don't have three hours to spare that. There was
one bit where she's like the guy on the screen's
coming straight home to me and she changed it to
the guy from the Chiefs is coming straight home to
me and it went like obviously viral. But anyway, I know,
we do not get the huge Taylor Swift fandom, but

(23:24):
the odd song is very good.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
I will give her that, definitely. It's a great one.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
All right, Okay, so loathing right, Nah, I always have
to cut these down. But the other day I went
and got shelac on my fingers and toes. Right, I
don't want a petticure. I don't want to manicure. I
just like getting my nails painted. And I got like
a peach color. And then I said to her, can

(23:50):
you please just do one blue dot in the middle
of all of the nails?

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Anyway, I'm like, what do you reckon? It would charge
for feet, just pain hands, just painted with one blue dot.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
I would never do that. But because she lacks different
but painting, like people that go just to get a
penal paint don't know. I don't know, mate, I agree, Okay,
I reckon, she'll lack on nails, toes and the blue dot. Yeah,
I reckon. That could have cost you close to one hundred. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
So here's the thing. I went up to the counter
and she said one hundred and eighty eight dollars wily, Yeah,
I nearly died. She put the one dot through as
nail art, which is clearly an extra fifty or something.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Now, I kid you not.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
It literally took the woman point one of a second
to put the dot on, and I couldn't say anything
because this lady who I know from like the coffee shop,
bumping into and stuff, was at the counter and the
boss jumped up and said, oh, put this one through.
So then if I questioned it, I would have felt embarrassed, going,
ye're sure, because she would have got yes, it's nail art,

(25:01):
and then I would have had to fight and go.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
But it's just a dot. I am still not over it,
and it was two weeks ago. I thank you.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
I just felt sneaking. I'm like, I'm not working at
the moment. I can't spend one hundred and eighty eight
dollars on nails.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Ninety I would have done. Do you know at kmart,
just for next time you get the shellac done right?
If you want a dot, they sell little nail art tools.
It's literally like a little like a brush on the
other side there's a little ball point. Yeah, but you're
talking about slack kids, No, I'm talking about just it's
like a little tool. You can buy like a set

(25:38):
of three the nail art brushes, but on the opposite side. Yeah,
it's like different sized balls, yes, like a ballpoint like
a pen, and you just dip it into a bit
of regular nail polish. Yes, yeah, one dot? How much
is that going to all wear?

Speaker 1 (25:51):
I will just never go back there. It's never I've
always had this done. It was a different place. I'll
never ever ever go back there. I was so angry,
I like walked out like fuck it in fuming, even
called my friend to go.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
You realize what happened here. I just could not let
it go. It was so awful.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
And then I looked into getting a Shellac home kit,
but every I've got a few friends that have got
them and they're like, nah, they're lousy. So if anyone
has a good home shelac kit, can you please hit
me up on Instagram, Show and Tell podcasts because I'd
love to.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Just do it from home. Have you looked on Amazon?

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah, but they're on there. You can find them, but
they're not good.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Oh okay, yeah even that. Do you look at the ratings,
the star ratings?

Speaker 5 (26:33):
No.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
I go in and read reviews as well. Okay I
should not read one negative and I'm like not getting no, Yeah, totally.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, I should look at that all right, what's one
loving for you before we go loathing.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
I had a really old moment the other day. So
I make fun of my mum all the time because
she loves those, you know, those very clearly AI generated
videos of like a baby talking same as my grandma.
She loves them. And I'm like, Mum, you know that's
not true, right, So.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
I know, but I love them.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
And I'm like, okay, all right, like rolling my eyes anyway,
you know, I tell you I save stuff all the
time my Instagram. I saved this video and the kids
came home from school and I'm like, oh my god,
look at this video I saw today. And it was
a seal jumping out of like a pool, like it
looked like it's SeaWorld or whatever, jumping out of a
pool and then jumping up onto a kid and hugging him.

(27:26):
And I was like, oh my god, this is the
worst bit. Luca goes, mum, that's AI, and I'm like,
it looks pretty real. I don't think it's AI. And
he goes mum, and he said the name of the
watermark of the AI program was on the video. I
just didn't even know what it was. I was like, ah,
and straight to I was like, oh my mum, yeah,
but it's hard now. I get it too.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
I hate when those things come up because, to start with,
remember those babies that used to walk the cat walk
really gorgeously and everything. I sent it to a French
so that's AI. And I was so embarrassed because it
gets you all the time. I've got a friend now
that just says everything's Ai.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
That's Ai. It's like, oh no, that's not AI. I know.
And also like we think about all the shit stuff
social media has done for us and now we're just
paranoid all the time because it's not true. I don't
think that's true. That's not real. That so funny.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
All right, everyone, we're going to get out of here.
Thank you so much for listening. Show and Tell podcasts
on Instagram is where you can find us. We will
always get back to you, and we have a Patreon
which we do an extra episode every couple of weeks
over there. Patreon dot com, forward slash shawon tel online.
It starts about five bucks a month. Just help with
the running of the party.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
But we'll chat you soon. Me love you.
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