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Thanky, David, we'll continuing with this issue.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Your polling has revealed Ozzies want to see tougher gun laws,
with three quarters of respondents calling for a crackdown. For
their take, let's bring in Amanda Rows, founding director of
Western Sydney Women and Logan City Match John Raven, wanting
to you both. The support for these tougher laws goes
right across the political spectrum, Amanda, from labor from One
Nation supporters from Coalition voters eighty to eighty two percent.
(00:23):
Were you expecting Ozzies to be so united on this?
Does that surprise you?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Well, fear does unite people right and everyone rightfully, so
is extremely fearful. I think what's concerning is the fact
just because you bring in legislation doesn't mean people are
going to follow it. You're not getting criminals sitting around
the coffee table saying, oh no, this legislation's coming in,
we better stop using guns or better stop obeying the law.
I think what we need to do is look at
why laws that are currently in place aren't being followed.
(00:51):
So we see there's crime everywhere where, it's knife crime,
gun crime, corruption, Why do our whether it's the police
force and they need more powers or the and magistrates
are letting people out on bail. Why aren't these laws
being pretty much in force but also kept because just
creating all legislation is going to restrict probably the people
(01:12):
that follow the law, like you know, the good citizens,
but criminals aren't going to.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
So yeah, but this is about, you know, strengthening those
gold standard gun laws in Australia is known for that
we have discovered in the last eight to nine days
aren't actually as rigorous as they should be.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Well they're not, but even then, if they've followed, if
that actually said well, hang on a minute, this person
shouldn't be having I mean, I'm all for the fact
that people should own six guns and things like that,
but it's more the fact of why don't we review
what's currently in place and why it hasn't been followed
and why people are getting away. But also illegal firearms
is something we need to focus on as well because
(01:47):
it's rampant.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
And hopefully this investigation will cover up all of that. John,
I want to come to you as a politician. We're
hearing on our text line here that people don't want
politicians damning it each other at this time they want politicians,
so they say politicians on both sides should be ashamed.
Were you surprised to hear that Anthony Abernezi and Susan
(02:08):
Lee haven't really even been speaking on the phone.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I was. And in nineteen ninety six after Port Arthur
there was bipartisan support. So John Howard came out made
Australia the safest country in the world when it comes
to guns, and Kim Beasley stood with him one hundred percent.
The attacks that we've seen, Susan Lay just talking about,
the petty attacks, the personal attacks aren't helping anyone. At
times like this, Australians expect our leaders to actually work together.
(02:36):
And because this isn't about votes or scoring cheap gotcha moments,
this is about keeping Australians safe and making them feel safe.
I was speaking to people in the shopping center essay
who have canceled their plans to go to the Gold
Coast for Christmas because they're scared to go to the beach.
When Australians are scared to go to the beach, we
don't just want our politicians to sit there firing shots
(02:56):
at each other. We want them to work together hand
in glove, no nonsense, no partnersanship and actually make people
feel safe again. Because we know where the greatest country
in the world. But to enjoy that, to be able
to enjoy our beaches, we need to feel safe to
go there.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, and a lot of people are rethinking their plans,
aren't they just thinking about being in crowds and what
they're doing over the Christmas break. I want to get
your opinion on this completely different here, completely different topic.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Voice notes.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Ron Atkinson has weighed in on this. It's when people,
of course recall their thoughts and messages rather than texting
or calling, kind of like a personal podcast delivered to
your phone.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Here's what he had to say.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Voice notes sort of put the obligation on the listener,
don't they. It's much easier to live a voice note
than write a text, but it's much easier to read
a text than listen to a voice note. So it's
sort of it's sort of shifting the burden I feel
from sender to receiver, which is not really fair.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
You know, mister Bean has nailed this, Amanda. I mean,
it's just the definition of selfishness.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
It's funny burden. I mean, you shouldn't be communicating with
someone if you feel like it's a burden to listen
or to send something, or listen to a voice txt.
I like voice notes, right, you're a voice note, well,
I mixed.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Right, But voice notes also you can have tone, especially
if you want to tell a funny story to your friend.
But also when they send it, I can press play
and get stuff done. I can do my makeup listen.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
To a voice there A limit though, is sort of
a minute two minutes.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Look, if thirty minute voice note, I'm going to have
to block you, we.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Can no longer be friends. Do you send voice notes?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
No? No, I do not send voice notes, at the
risk of sounding like a boomer. I send a text
message because usually I'm in meetings. So if I'm in
a meeting and I'm trying to multitask, I don't really
have time to do a voice note. But I just
want to point out that Rowan Atkinson is a dead
set genius. So Rowan Atkinson says they're a bad idea,
let's go with him.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Maybe it's a generational thing. You know, you want to
hear these sort of elaborate stories dictated to your font.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
It's the tone and the delivery.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
You know, if I've got a really funny story of
something that just happened to me or something dramatic, I'm
going to tell my friend. And I've got the ups
and downs with my voice. But he's right regarding the
text in meetings. You know, I am not pressing play
on a voice message from.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
My friend in a meeting. I may lose that business.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I mean, we could be opening a Pandora's box here
with the Sunrise. Send us a voice note.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
And I'm please to buy voice notes. Thank you so.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Much, Jan and Amanda have a very merry Christmas. It's
been wonderful chatting to you on the show this year.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Thanks. Here's David
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