August 24, 2023 • 23 mins
On this special episode, Chris Coleman and Adam Jansen are joined by Sammy Rose and Raiders NRLW star, Sophie Holyman. Sophie discusses the season so far, scoring tries, questionable dressing sheds, awards nominations, nicknames and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Super Serious Sports Show with Chris Coleman and Adam Jansen.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Sometimes on The Super Serious Sports Show. We just decided
to sit down and have a chat with someone. A
few weeks ago we sat down and had a chat
with a couple of people, didn't we, Adam Jansen.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
We did.
Speaker 4 (00:13):
We had a very pleasant chat. We learned some things.
I think they learned some things.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
And it's time to do it all again. It is
time to do it all again with one of them. Anyway,
we'll tell you in a second. Sammy Rose has joined
us as well from the Raiders on Mixed Call teammate
Sammy Hello, and also with us once again from the
Cambe Raiders and RLW side try scoring hero from the weekend,
No Less, Sophie, Chewy Hollyman.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
How you doing, I'm very well. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
That's on your first ever rugby league try.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
It's so exciting and that's fairning and we're not making
that up. That is the first time you have crossed
the stripe and scored a four point in rugby league
at any level, in any time, at any game, yep.
Speaker 6 (00:49):
And to do it at home in front of the
home crowd was amazing.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
It was so good.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Now, did you get bonus points from your teammates because
you actually scored it under the black dot? And try
under the black dot for the Raiders enter l W side.
So far this season, I would say a few and
far between, except that's a lie. They've been non existed.
They've all been out there on the wings. So they
showed them how it was done.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Yeah, do you know what? I got a big shove
in the back from Zahara.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
And I turned around and I was like, you can
probably like tell in my face, like I'm a little
bit like just wondering did I actually score that she's
shoved me in the back.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
I turned around and she looks at me and she goes,
that was disgusting.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
And now I just laughed and I looked at her
and I like she came up and gave me a hug.
But throughout the week it was this thing that like
we were nailing some of our back line plays and
she'd be like, that's revolting, that's discussed, and it's become
this thing and it's just like, I don't know, like
so good, so disgustingly good. She's like that was all
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you and I was looking at it. I'm like, yeah,
I'll take that.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
We'll get to Sahara because I have a couple of questions.
But I'm very big on monitoring which players have scored
a try and which ones haven't. Did you know that
Uppy Nichols has never scored an nrl W try. So
she scored tries for the Kiwi Ferns, but she does
not have a try in the NRLW yet. And she's
played fifteen or sixteen games. You've scored more NRLW tries
(02:18):
than she has.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
I'll be making sure I say that, no, she's you
know what, she doesn't have an NRLW try.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
But how many triassysts I'd like to know that.
Speaker 7 (02:26):
Yeah, I think there's a lot.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I think she's probably leading, probably behind Zahara, but I
think she's got quite a few triassists this season. But
there's not too many because Alana Dummat she got her
first try on the weekend as well, Chante Temra she
got she got her first not look, so I think
it's certainly more than half the team has scored so far,
so the pressure is on the ones who haven't. So
(02:48):
Lee Smith, who joined US five weeks ago, so I
know she only played one game, but she still sniffered
around for her first try.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Absolutely so on Zahara.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
A video went up on the Rate of Social Media
the other day where Sahara was asked who the most
annoying teammate is. She said it was you, and she
said it wasn't even close by far.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
I think her words were by far. I love that,
and I feel like I was just expecting it. To
be honest, I really just get on her nerves. It's
so funny and all I do is laugh in her face.
Speaker 7 (03:24):
So my follow up question, also in that video, you
had a black eye.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
You know what I'm going to say, Yes, just on here.
She's a real bully guys.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Oh no, I know I was about to say I wish,
but I definitely don't. No, that was from the Old
Dragon's Game and I had a bit of a cotton
elbow in the five minutes of Golden Point, and I
had this swelling just sitting next to my eyebrow, and
I was like, Nah, that won't become a black eye.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Woke up the next morning and it had traveled down
and I was just looking at myself, gone, that's not good,
and it's still like it's still sitting there sort of.
Speaker 7 (04:10):
Yeah, there's still a hint of it.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
Yeah, it's like is she tired or is she has
she got a black eye? I'm not sure, but yeah,
hopefully it goes away by this weekend.
Speaker 7 (04:19):
Now I want to ask you've been nominated.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Firstly, congratulations for the twenty twenty three Veronica White Metal,
which is incredible. Not for your work on the field,
which we know is amazing we saw it last week,
but also for your work in the community off the field.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
How does that feel?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
And like I was saying to Adam earlier in the office,
you haven't even been here for a full season yet
and you're already having this impact on the community.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Sophie, that's that's pretty incredible.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
Yeah, it's really special and I definitely wasn't expecting it.
And I think when I got called in to headquarters
early and you know, down with Sam from community and
just got to chat about what I kind of do
outside of footy, it almost made me reflect on what
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I do and I think being able to share that
with everyone is something super special and just anything that
I can do in the community, like I said, like
in the video, like a main reason as to why
I came down to Canberra wasn't just for footy, Like,
it's definitely a bigger picture. So I think being recognized
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for that is.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Yeah, it's really special.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Do you think a part of it is too, because
I know you help out one of the local rugby
league teams with their young girls coming through.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Do you think a part of it.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I watched that and I was like, how amazing is
it that those girls have you as a resource, which
is something that you wouldn't have had exactly.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
And I mentor a couple of younger girls and one
of them actually being in this Belcon and Shark's team. Yeah,
I think for them to just have someone to chat
to about footy, about anything really, because like, as a
female footy player, there's a lot more to it as well.
There's not just performing on the field. There's a pressure outside,
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you know. So yeah, there's lots of different aspects that
I like helping young girls with. And sometimes they get
asked questions about like hey, like what do I eat,
what do I train?
Speaker 5 (06:22):
What do I do. I'm like, look, I'm not like
at all, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
I can give a little bit of advice but like, yeah,
you know, but I try and help out as much
as I can, just purely because you're right, Like I
didn't have that when I was growing up.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Where at the midpoint of the season the Raiders. Actually,
when I ask you this, we watched the first game.
We've watched and called all the games so far, it
looked like that first game you looked like a football
side that was really nervous. And then the second week
things just clicked. Because you've looked like a bloody good
football side for weeks two, three, four, and five winning
all those games. How much was there about that first
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game and looking back, did that have an impact on
the performance there?
Speaker 6 (07:05):
Absolutely it did. We all said that. Actually, we said
that we were all super nervous. You know, there was
all the debuts, We're all going to get our numbers, Like,
there was so much media and build up to have
this expectation of like what other aid is going to
be And I think it definitely took a toll on
all of us.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Oh, and I think it's I guess.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
You may have heard, but like the change rooms and
things that we were put in at the Sharks were
not great, Like we were next to Portloo's like right
out the back, and you know, like it was things
like that. We were like, you know what, just suck
it up. We're going to go out there and do
our best. And yeah, I do think it was definitely
the nerves, but it was really good that Obviously the
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following week we we came out and performed.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
I hadn't heard that about about Shark Parks, So what
did they say that it wasn't the proper change No.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
No, no, So we'll put literally out the back and
like we had to even like at halftime, we had
to walk through like the public to get to our
change rooms. So yeah, like funny enough, Like at the
there was like a nine media day a couple of
weeks earlier, and I was speaking to Emmatnicado and Tiana
(08:23):
Pennatani and they're like, hey, girls, just letting you know,
like be prepared.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
So is that because they're still finishing the reconstruction.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
Yeah, yeah, it is, so like I mean, take what
you can get. We're really lucky that we've got such
a really great stuff and they made it as special
as they possibly could. But it's funny as women like
you just those small little things like they have a
little impact. And I'm not saying, gosh, that's not why
we didn't perform. We didn't perform because we didn't put
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our best foot forward, Like you know, we were nervous,
we were trying to get structure, like it was the
first time we were all playing together as a team.
So I guess, yeah, like, you're right. I think going
into that next week of training something clicked, like we
flipped a switch, and I mean knocking out the Roosters
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and then the Tigers the following week, like we were
on an absolute high.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
So all the Tigers at the time had only conceded
eight points in two games, and you guys put on
I think it was twenty twenty eight from memory, Yes,
so that's an incredible effort against the team who'd only
conceded eight points in two games of football.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
The Roosters the week before that had lost I think
one of their previous ten games or something.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
It was a prelim too.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
You've knocked off Paramatta in the meantime as well, who
were last year's Grand finalists.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
It's been a pretty good run.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
Yeah, four from five and you know what, we sat
down last night.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
So I don't know about you guys.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
But that storm last night was absolutely wild and we're
on the field and all of a sudd we're just seen.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Lightning and it was raining and anyway.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
So we went inside and obviously made the most of
you know, the wet weather and did like a whole
lot of tackle tech and things like that that we
needed to work on. But we and this is what
I love about Bortho. He's just such an awesome coach,
and he brought us all in and we're at that
pivotal point of our season where we can either decide
(10:23):
to continue to keep building on what we've already built
and go with the changes and the niggles and things
like that that's you know, happening, or you know, we've
got some really strong teams coming up to play against.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
And he brought us all into the circle.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
And we touched on it being the midpoint of our
season and how is everyonegoing? And I love that in
the point of the season. So yeah, obviously just really
looking forward to these next few challenges that we have
ahead of us.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Speaking of you guys circling together and coming together. I
was lucky enough to you know, be on the sideline
for you game over the weekend and at the end
of the game, even though your girls won, you all
had and I felt even just a bit awkward being
in the presence of it, because it was I could
feel the feeling you guys huddled at the end of
(11:14):
the game in the center of the field with your
co captains a Sarmama Tafa and Zahara Temra kind of
talking to you guys, And I said, I said, to
these guys, the mood was, it was so intense, and
I felt like I was kind of encroaching on this, this
sacred chat that you guys were having, because it's so
(11:36):
obvious to everybody how much you guys care about this.
What were you guys talking about in that huddle and
how important is that leadership from legends like Zahara and Samima.
You know, it's obvious on the field, but in those
moments as well, when maybe you haven't performed as well
as you think you could have. Because that's the vibe
(11:57):
I got from that little hurdle.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
Yeah, so I think I think there's been a few
games where we feel like we haven't stuck to our
gameplay and it annoys us and we don't know, we
don't know why we do it, But we know how
good we can be, and we know that we're a
talented group.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
And I think so that huddle Z.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Was talking and mimes as well, and they actually, yeah,
both got pretty emotional about it. And we've got to
start learning that we just won and we need to
take the two points and it's kind of that thing
that you just need to park it and move on
to the next week. And I tell you what, like
after we sung the song, it was like we'd lost
(12:37):
and we spoke about that last night too, And I
think it's because we all care so much and we
all know.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
How good we can be as a team. There's not
one person.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
It doesn't matter if they're development, it doesn't matter if
they're sitting on the bench, they're starting, they're sitting in
the crowd. Everyone gives one hundred and ten percent. And
that's what I love about the team is that we're
wherever they've come from, England, Queensland, New Zealand, wherever. Everyone
is buying in to this program as much as they could.
And that was shown last night when we all had
(13:10):
a chat and one of the girls said that you know,
started to break down and said she was really missing family,
Like it's getting to that, you know, mid season point,
a few niggles things like that, really missing family. And
one of our other girls turned around to her and said,
we're your family now, so while you're here, where your
family and we've got you kind of thing. And I
feel that in like, it doesn't matter who I like,
(13:34):
I walk into the club, it doesn't matter who I
chat to, Like I know I can chat to them
about anything. And I was saying too, like, yeah, we've
had some games where we haven't performed like we know
we can, or like what we've wanted to achieve or
anything like that. But there's not one time, and this
is a first team that I've played in that's like,
this is not one time that I've felt, oh gosh,
like we're really in trouble here. Like I know that
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if I'm putting my body on the line, the person
next to me is going to do that, and I
think that's really special to have.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
I'm like, I know they're going to make that tackle.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Now, speaking of putting someone putting their body on the line,
You're playing the Brisbane Broncos this week, your former club,
so some former teammates, probably some former friends, probably still
some current friends, Melee, herfunger, who plays in the centers,
who four tries inside forty minutes against the Cowboys. Now
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we joked on this show that poor ol Mackenzie wiki
would just happened to be injured.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Oh yeah, I know.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
Now is Mackenzie actually injured? Of course she is.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
But is there a game plan for because she's the
leading try score on the comp she scored six tries.
But she scored four tries against the Cowboys inside of
forty minutes.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
I would be worried. Is there a game plan?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Are you going to play in the centers that week
to try and match up a little bit of forward
power against it?
Speaker 7 (15:00):
She's six ft.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Three, is she yeah?
Speaker 7 (15:03):
Speak, she moves, and she's Grace out there. Grace is
starting partner this week.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
I know.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
So look that team And I was talking to Ali
last night. Actually, she she messaged me and I was like,
I can't wait to see you all, But I like
I can wait because you know, I love them all,
Like obviously I played Origin with majority of that team
and they're all really good mates of mine. But yeah,
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in terms of the look, she's definitely going to probably
be a focus coming into this weekend.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
But the way our.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Week sort of works is we won't start knuckling down
on that until yeah, probably what's tomorrow, Thursday or Thursday training.
We start having a look at that and then into
our captain's run, highlighting who we need to focus on.
So there's a lot of threats in that team, but again,
I think it just comes down to focusing on what
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we do as a team.
Speaker 7 (16:03):
Because Julia Robinson's back this week too.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah, and we've all sort of developed our favorites of
you know, the your side, the Raiders so far throughout
this year. Sammy, I know you're a huge fan of
Kara Hatina Marta. There was a matchup I want to see. Yeah,
I will see Katina match up against against h Funger.
Speaker 7 (16:24):
I think that would be I think that would be
a battle.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
She played in the centers a lot through in her
junior day, so I reckon that's a that's a potential battle.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Yeah, I'd love to see it.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
You're going to win one. Yeah, there we go. That's
the answer I was looking for exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Eneroal W twenty twenty three versus Emeral W twenty twenty two,
you played in both how does it compare. Has the
game changed with the expansion of the comp You know,
what differences have you noticed out there on the field.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
I would say it's getting faster, and I would say
it looks it, yeah, and I feel like it's scared,
like it's a lot more Oh, it's just better quality.
I think the girls that you've got coming through are
so skillful and like some of the girls playing are
like eighteen years old, like it's crazy. But I'd say, yeah,
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better quality and a lot more professional. That's what I
feel this year, and especially with the I guess longer
season this time last year is done. That's five five
rounds and you're done. So we're only at the midway points.
So I think obviously pre season being longer, longer rounds,
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like the whole program has been way more professional.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Now, also the first time this season you're allowed to
sign longer contracts, so previously it was just one year deals.
Do you think we'll see more consistency of plays throughout
their careers of staying at the same club longer. So
Mattie Bartlett, for example, the Raiders are her fourth club,
so she's played for the Warriors, the drag against the
Titan and now the Raiders. Do you think now that
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there's the ability to sign the multi year deals that
will see players stay at clubs longer and obviously build
those relationships that you've spoken about. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
Absolutely, And I think because you know, we're still in
that transition phase phase of women, you know, having these
contracts with like sport to play professionally, and I think obviously,
like if you're signing along a contract, that's security for yourself.
So I think anyone who gets offered a multi year
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deal is going to take it, especially for a woman, especially.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
Because you have to work outside of footy as well.
So definitely.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
You mentioned one of our favorites, amazing Grace there a
little earlier. How has she been finding I know she was.
I listened to an interview earlier in the year and
she was saying that she was a bit nervous about
this is, you know, her first season playing league and
she's doing amazing at it as we've seen. Have you
been able to help her Obviously you've got a bit
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of a rugby background as well, kind of make that
transition a bit easier for her and other girls in
the squad that this is their first season of league.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
Yeah, so definitely, I think that was a lot in
pre season. I'd say when she was really she wasn't struggling,
but I think she was overthinking and she knows like
how much of an athlete she is, and like she
really wanted to show that, and I think just reminding
her to bring it back down to the basics, like
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just grab the ball and just run the way you do,
like get to the points that Zee or Asher telling
us to get to and the bat let the backs
do the pretty stuff, Like our job is.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
Just to get bashed and be like do the bashing.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
So yeah, like a true forward.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
I love it.
Speaker 7 (19:46):
You scored a try on the weekends. The pretty stuff
was disgusting.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Disgusting with a big push in the bat.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
It would be REMISSI of us if we didn't ask.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Because you're one of the pine is in women's rugby
league as it moves into a new professional phase. Over
the past month, we've all been captivated by what's happened
in women's soccer. What do you draw from that as
a final sort of talking point in this chat, what
do you draw from that as a professional.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
Sportswoman to see because obviously it was in Brisbane. Some
of my mates were there in that atmosphere watching the
Tillies play and what that team has done in the
I guess, the lead up to their World Cup and
what they've shown that they can do is just amazing.
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And then obviously that two hundred million coming in for
women's sport hopefully, you know, to be invested into the
grassroots of whatever sport that women choose to play, it's unreal.
And to see the crowd and the fans. And I
was down in Melbourne a couple of weeks ago on
a couple of days off that we had, and I
was standing at watching like a local AFL game, and
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one of the old guys came up to me and
he's like he nudged me. He's like, oh, did you
watch the Tillies game? And you know, just like I
am in like country Melbourne watching an AFL game and
an old guy wants to chat about the Tillies, you know,
and the penalty goals and all that. And I just
think it's so cool that it's not just women talking
about this, it's males too, and it just shows how
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much women's sports growing.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Got one more question that I forgot to ask earlier
here we go. Has Chewy caught on it training yet?
Or are you still just getting sof?
Speaker 5 (21:33):
I'm still getting sof and that is so fine.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
I know, like a lot of girls shared the video
that Raiders put out of me for the Metal nomination
and they're all riding Chewy on it and I'm like,
are they too nervous to tell me in person or
I'm not sure? But no, it hasn't caught on yet. No,
maybe next season.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
Has go a court on for a lease.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Ah, okay, I have a really quick story. I'll be
very quick.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
But so I still say go Anna. Everyone calls her Juni,
which is fine, but you know it's go.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Ona to me.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
But I was chatting to one of my mates and
he was saying that some of his mates from AFL
were messing around on a Saturday night after their game
and yeah, they put they put belts around their necks
and then they start put and I lived.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
That bull Is that what it's called? And I'm like, yeah,
it is.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
I just think back to this and I'm like, you
really do learn something every day, don't you.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
We were at tempted to bring out the special edition
of What Is It or where is it from?
Speaker 3 (22:47):
But next time.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Around enough to get a full round all for yourself
next time, I promise, unreal. So thanks very much for
coming in. We really do appreciate it, and congrats on
the season so far. Job's half done. Go out there
and knock them dead for the next few weeks and
finish the job.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
Thank you so much, We've.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Really enjoyed it.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Congratulations on the way you're going and I'm sure you'll
make it eight wins in a row, nine wins in
a row, ten wins in a row on Grand Final day.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
Absolutely, thank you so much. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Saphie Hollowen from the Camber Raiders NROLW side on the
special edition not the Super serious sports Show.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
We'll catch you next
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Week Amplify CBR
The Super Serious Sports Show with Chris Coleman and Adam Jansen.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Sometimes on The Super Serious Sports Show. We just decided
to sit down and have a chat with someone. A
few weeks ago we sat down and had a chat
with a couple of people, didn't we, Adam Jansen.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
We did.
Speaker 4 (00:13):
We had a very pleasant chat. We learned some things.
I think they learned some things.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
And it's time to do it all again. It is
time to do it all again with one of them. Anyway,
we'll tell you in a second. Sammy Rose has joined
us as well from the Raiders on Mixed Call teammate
Sammy Hello, and also with us once again from the
Cambe Raiders and RLW side try scoring hero from the weekend,
No Less, Sophie, Chewy Hollyman.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
How you doing, I'm very well. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
That's on your first ever rugby league try.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
It's so exciting and that's fairning and we're not making
that up. That is the first time you have crossed
the stripe and scored a four point in rugby league
at any level, in any time, at any game, yep.
Speaker 6 (00:49):
And to do it at home in front of the
home crowd was amazing.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
It was so good.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Now, did you get bonus points from your teammates because
you actually scored it under the black dot? And try
under the black dot for the Raiders enter l W side.
So far this season, I would say a few and
far between, except that's a lie. They've been non existed.
They've all been out there on the wings. So they
showed them how it was done.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Yeah, do you know what? I got a big shove
in the back from Zahara.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
And I turned around and I was like, you can
probably like tell in my face, like I'm a little
bit like just wondering did I actually score that she's
shoved me in the back.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
I turned around and she looks at me and she goes,
that was disgusting.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
And now I just laughed and I looked at her
and I like she came up and gave me a hug.
But throughout the week it was this thing that like
we were nailing some of our back line plays and
she'd be like, that's revolting, that's discussed, and it's become
this thing and it's just like, I don't know, like
so good, so disgustingly good. She's like that was all
(01:52):
you and I was looking at it. I'm like, yeah,
I'll take that.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
We'll get to Sahara because I have a couple of questions.
But I'm very big on monitoring which players have scored
a try and which ones haven't. Did you know that
Uppy Nichols has never scored an nrl W try. So
she scored tries for the Kiwi Ferns, but she does
not have a try in the NRLW yet. And she's
played fifteen or sixteen games. You've scored more NRLW tries
(02:18):
than she has.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
I'll be making sure I say that, no, she's you
know what, she doesn't have an NRLW try.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
But how many triassysts I'd like to know that.
Speaker 7 (02:26):
Yeah, I think there's a lot.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I think she's probably leading, probably behind Zahara, but I
think she's got quite a few triassists this season. But
there's not too many because Alana Dummat she got her
first try on the weekend as well, Chante Temra she
got she got her first not look, so I think
it's certainly more than half the team has scored so far,
so the pressure is on the ones who haven't. So
(02:48):
Lee Smith, who joined US five weeks ago, so I
know she only played one game, but she still sniffered
around for her first try.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Absolutely so on Zahara.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
A video went up on the Rate of Social Media
the other day where Sahara was asked who the most
annoying teammate is. She said it was you, and she
said it wasn't even close by far.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
I think her words were by far. I love that,
and I feel like I was just expecting it. To
be honest, I really just get on her nerves. It's
so funny and all I do is laugh in her face.
Speaker 7 (03:24):
So my follow up question, also in that video, you
had a black eye.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
You know what I'm going to say, Yes, just on here.
She's a real bully guys.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Oh no, I know I was about to say I wish,
but I definitely don't. No, that was from the Old
Dragon's Game and I had a bit of a cotton
elbow in the five minutes of Golden Point, and I
had this swelling just sitting next to my eyebrow, and
I was like, Nah, that won't become a black eye.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Woke up the next morning and it had traveled down
and I was just looking at myself, gone, that's not good,
and it's still like it's still sitting there sort of.
Speaker 7 (04:10):
Yeah, there's still a hint of it.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
Yeah, it's like is she tired or is she has
she got a black eye? I'm not sure, but yeah,
hopefully it goes away by this weekend.
Speaker 7 (04:19):
Now I want to ask you've been nominated.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Firstly, congratulations for the twenty twenty three Veronica White Metal,
which is incredible. Not for your work on the field,
which we know is amazing we saw it last week,
but also for your work in the community off the field.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
How does that feel?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
And like I was saying to Adam earlier in the office,
you haven't even been here for a full season yet
and you're already having this impact on the community.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Sophie, that's that's pretty incredible.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
Yeah, it's really special and I definitely wasn't expecting it.
And I think when I got called in to headquarters
early and you know, down with Sam from community and
just got to chat about what I kind of do
outside of footy, it almost made me reflect on what
(05:08):
I do and I think being able to share that
with everyone is something super special and just anything that
I can do in the community, like I said, like
in the video, like a main reason as to why
I came down to Canberra wasn't just for footy, Like,
it's definitely a bigger picture. So I think being recognized
(05:29):
for that is.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Yeah, it's really special.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Do you think a part of it is too, because
I know you help out one of the local rugby
league teams with their young girls coming through.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Do you think a part of it.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I watched that and I was like, how amazing is
it that those girls have you as a resource, which
is something that you wouldn't have had exactly.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
And I mentor a couple of younger girls and one
of them actually being in this Belcon and Shark's team. Yeah,
I think for them to just have someone to chat
to about footy, about anything really, because like, as a
female footy player, there's a lot more to it as well.
There's not just performing on the field. There's a pressure outside,
(06:11):
you know. So yeah, there's lots of different aspects that
I like helping young girls with. And sometimes they get
asked questions about like hey, like what do I eat,
what do I train?
Speaker 5 (06:22):
What do I do. I'm like, look, I'm not like
at all, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
I can give a little bit of advice but like, yeah,
you know, but I try and help out as much
as I can, just purely because you're right, Like I
didn't have that when I was growing up.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Where at the midpoint of the season the Raiders. Actually,
when I ask you this, we watched the first game.
We've watched and called all the games so far, it
looked like that first game you looked like a football
side that was really nervous. And then the second week
things just clicked. Because you've looked like a bloody good
football side for weeks two, three, four, and five winning
all those games. How much was there about that first
(07:01):
game and looking back, did that have an impact on
the performance there?
Speaker 6 (07:05):
Absolutely it did. We all said that. Actually, we said
that we were all super nervous. You know, there was
all the debuts, We're all going to get our numbers, Like,
there was so much media and build up to have
this expectation of like what other aid is going to
be And I think it definitely took a toll on
all of us.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Oh, and I think it's I guess.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
You may have heard, but like the change rooms and
things that we were put in at the Sharks were
not great, Like we were next to Portloo's like right
out the back, and you know, like it was things
like that. We were like, you know what, just suck
it up. We're going to go out there and do
our best. And yeah, I do think it was definitely
the nerves, but it was really good that Obviously the
(07:52):
following week we we came out and performed.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
I hadn't heard that about about Shark Parks, So what
did they say that it wasn't the proper change No.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
No, no, So we'll put literally out the back and
like we had to even like at halftime, we had
to walk through like the public to get to our
change rooms. So yeah, like funny enough, Like at the
there was like a nine media day a couple of
weeks earlier, and I was speaking to Emmatnicado and Tiana
(08:23):
Pennatani and they're like, hey, girls, just letting you know,
like be prepared.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
So is that because they're still finishing the reconstruction.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
Yeah, yeah, it is, so like I mean, take what
you can get. We're really lucky that we've got such
a really great stuff and they made it as special
as they possibly could. But it's funny as women like
you just those small little things like they have a
little impact. And I'm not saying, gosh, that's not why
we didn't perform. We didn't perform because we didn't put
(08:53):
our best foot forward, Like you know, we were nervous,
we were trying to get structure, like it was the
first time we were all playing together as a team.
So I guess, yeah, like, you're right. I think going
into that next week of training something clicked, like we
flipped a switch, and I mean knocking out the Roosters
(09:13):
and then the Tigers the following week, like we were
on an absolute high.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
So all the Tigers at the time had only conceded
eight points in two games, and you guys put on
I think it was twenty twenty eight from memory, Yes,
so that's an incredible effort against the team who'd only
conceded eight points in two games of football.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
The Roosters the week before that had lost I think
one of their previous ten games or something.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
It was a prelim too.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
You've knocked off Paramatta in the meantime as well, who
were last year's Grand finalists.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
It's been a pretty good run.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
Yeah, four from five and you know what, we sat
down last night.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
So I don't know about you guys.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
But that storm last night was absolutely wild and we're
on the field and all of a sudd we're just seen.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Lightning and it was raining and anyway.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
So we went inside and obviously made the most of
you know, the wet weather and did like a whole
lot of tackle tech and things like that that we
needed to work on. But we and this is what
I love about Bortho. He's just such an awesome coach,
and he brought us all in and we're at that
pivotal point of our season where we can either decide
(10:23):
to continue to keep building on what we've already built
and go with the changes and the niggles and things
like that that's you know, happening, or you know, we've
got some really strong teams coming up to play against.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
And he brought us all into the circle.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
And we touched on it being the midpoint of our
season and how is everyonegoing? And I love that in
the point of the season. So yeah, obviously just really
looking forward to these next few challenges that we have
ahead of us.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Speaking of you guys circling together and coming together. I
was lucky enough to you know, be on the sideline
for you game over the weekend and at the end
of the game, even though your girls won, you all
had and I felt even just a bit awkward being
in the presence of it, because it was I could
feel the feeling you guys huddled at the end of
(11:14):
the game in the center of the field with your
co captains a Sarmama Tafa and Zahara Temra kind of
talking to you guys, And I said, I said, to
these guys, the mood was, it was so intense, and
I felt like I was kind of encroaching on this, this
sacred chat that you guys were having, because it's so
(11:36):
obvious to everybody how much you guys care about this.
What were you guys talking about in that huddle and
how important is that leadership from legends like Zahara and Samima.
You know, it's obvious on the field, but in those
moments as well, when maybe you haven't performed as well
as you think you could have. Because that's the vibe
(11:57):
I got from that little hurdle.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
Yeah, so I think I think there's been a few
games where we feel like we haven't stuck to our
gameplay and it annoys us and we don't know, we
don't know why we do it, But we know how
good we can be, and we know that we're a
talented group.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
And I think so that huddle Z.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Was talking and mimes as well, and they actually, yeah,
both got pretty emotional about it. And we've got to
start learning that we just won and we need to
take the two points and it's kind of that thing
that you just need to park it and move on
to the next week. And I tell you what, like
after we sung the song, it was like we'd lost
(12:37):
and we spoke about that last night too, And I
think it's because we all care so much and we
all know.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
How good we can be as a team. There's not
one person.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
It doesn't matter if they're development, it doesn't matter if
they're sitting on the bench, they're starting, they're sitting in
the crowd. Everyone gives one hundred and ten percent. And
that's what I love about the team is that we're
wherever they've come from, England, Queensland, New Zealand, wherever. Everyone
is buying in to this program as much as they could.
And that was shown last night when we all had
(13:10):
a chat and one of the girls said that you know,
started to break down and said she was really missing family,
Like it's getting to that, you know, mid season point,
a few niggles things like that, really missing family. And
one of our other girls turned around to her and said,
we're your family now, so while you're here, where your
family and we've got you kind of thing. And I
feel that in like, it doesn't matter who I like,
(13:34):
I walk into the club, it doesn't matter who I
chat to, Like I know I can chat to them
about anything. And I was saying too, like, yeah, we've
had some games where we haven't performed like we know
we can, or like what we've wanted to achieve or
anything like that. But there's not one time, and this
is a first team that I've played in that's like,
this is not one time that I've felt, oh gosh,
like we're really in trouble here. Like I know that
(13:57):
if I'm putting my body on the line, the person
next to me is going to do that, and I
think that's really special to have.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
I'm like, I know they're going to make that tackle.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Now, speaking of putting someone putting their body on the line,
You're playing the Brisbane Broncos this week, your former club,
so some former teammates, probably some former friends, probably still
some current friends, Melee, herfunger, who plays in the centers,
who four tries inside forty minutes against the Cowboys. Now
(14:29):
we joked on this show that poor ol Mackenzie wiki
would just happened to be injured.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Oh yeah, I know.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
Now is Mackenzie actually injured? Of course she is.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
But is there a game plan for because she's the
leading try score on the comp she scored six tries.
But she scored four tries against the Cowboys inside of
forty minutes.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
I would be worried. Is there a game plan?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Are you going to play in the centers that week
to try and match up a little bit of forward
power against it?
Speaker 7 (15:00):
She's six ft.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Three, is she yeah?
Speaker 7 (15:03):
Speak, she moves, and she's Grace out there. Grace is
starting partner this week.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
I know.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
So look that team And I was talking to Ali
last night. Actually, she she messaged me and I was like,
I can't wait to see you all, But I like
I can wait because you know, I love them all,
Like obviously I played Origin with majority of that team
and they're all really good mates of mine. But yeah,
(15:34):
in terms of the look, she's definitely going to probably
be a focus coming into this weekend.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
But the way our.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Week sort of works is we won't start knuckling down
on that until yeah, probably what's tomorrow, Thursday or Thursday training.
We start having a look at that and then into
our captain's run, highlighting who we need to focus on.
So there's a lot of threats in that team, but again,
I think it just comes down to focusing on what
(16:02):
we do as a team.
Speaker 7 (16:03):
Because Julia Robinson's back this week too.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah, and we've all sort of developed our favorites of
you know, the your side, the Raiders so far throughout
this year. Sammy, I know you're a huge fan of
Kara Hatina Marta. There was a matchup I want to see. Yeah,
I will see Katina match up against against h Funger.
Speaker 7 (16:24):
I think that would be I think that would be
a battle.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
She played in the centers a lot through in her
junior day, so I reckon that's a that's a potential battle.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Yeah, I'd love to see it.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
You're going to win one. Yeah, there we go. That's
the answer I was looking for exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Eneroal W twenty twenty three versus Emeral W twenty twenty two,
you played in both how does it compare. Has the
game changed with the expansion of the comp You know,
what differences have you noticed out there on the field.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
I would say it's getting faster, and I would say
it looks it, yeah, and I feel like it's scared,
like it's a lot more Oh, it's just better quality.
I think the girls that you've got coming through are
so skillful and like some of the girls playing are
like eighteen years old, like it's crazy. But I'd say, yeah,
(17:16):
better quality and a lot more professional. That's what I
feel this year, and especially with the I guess longer
season this time last year is done. That's five five
rounds and you're done. So we're only at the midway points.
So I think obviously pre season being longer, longer rounds,
(17:36):
like the whole program has been way more professional.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Now, also the first time this season you're allowed to
sign longer contracts, so previously it was just one year deals.
Do you think we'll see more consistency of plays throughout
their careers of staying at the same club longer. So
Mattie Bartlett, for example, the Raiders are her fourth club,
so she's played for the Warriors, the drag against the
Titan and now the Raiders. Do you think now that
(18:01):
there's the ability to sign the multi year deals that
will see players stay at clubs longer and obviously build
those relationships that you've spoken about. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
Absolutely, And I think because you know, we're still in
that transition phase phase of women, you know, having these
contracts with like sport to play professionally, and I think obviously,
like if you're signing along a contract, that's security for yourself.
So I think anyone who gets offered a multi year
(18:32):
deal is going to take it, especially for a woman, especially.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
Because you have to work outside of footy as well.
So definitely.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
You mentioned one of our favorites, amazing Grace there a
little earlier. How has she been finding I know she was.
I listened to an interview earlier in the year and
she was saying that she was a bit nervous about
this is, you know, her first season playing league and
she's doing amazing at it as we've seen. Have you
been able to help her Obviously you've got a bit
(19:00):
of a rugby background as well, kind of make that
transition a bit easier for her and other girls in
the squad that this is their first season of league.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
Yeah, so definitely, I think that was a lot in
pre season. I'd say when she was really she wasn't struggling,
but I think she was overthinking and she knows like
how much of an athlete she is, and like she
really wanted to show that, and I think just reminding
her to bring it back down to the basics, like
(19:29):
just grab the ball and just run the way you do,
like get to the points that Zee or Asher telling
us to get to and the bat let the backs
do the pretty stuff, Like our job is.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
Just to get bashed and be like do the bashing.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
So yeah, like a true forward.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
I love it.
Speaker 7 (19:46):
You scored a try on the weekends. The pretty stuff
was disgusting.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Disgusting with a big push in the bat.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
It would be REMISSI of us if we didn't ask.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Because you're one of the pine is in women's rugby
league as it moves into a new professional phase. Over
the past month, we've all been captivated by what's happened
in women's soccer. What do you draw from that as
a final sort of talking point in this chat, what
do you draw from that as a professional.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
Sportswoman to see because obviously it was in Brisbane. Some
of my mates were there in that atmosphere watching the
Tillies play and what that team has done in the
I guess, the lead up to their World Cup and
what they've shown that they can do is just amazing.
(20:37):
And then obviously that two hundred million coming in for
women's sport hopefully, you know, to be invested into the
grassroots of whatever sport that women choose to play, it's unreal.
And to see the crowd and the fans. And I
was down in Melbourne a couple of weeks ago on
a couple of days off that we had, and I
was standing at watching like a local AFL game, and
(21:01):
one of the old guys came up to me and
he's like he nudged me. He's like, oh, did you
watch the Tillies game? And you know, just like I
am in like country Melbourne watching an AFL game and
an old guy wants to chat about the Tillies, you know,
and the penalty goals and all that. And I just
think it's so cool that it's not just women talking
about this, it's males too, and it just shows how
(21:23):
much women's sports growing.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Got one more question that I forgot to ask earlier
here we go. Has Chewy caught on it training yet?
Or are you still just getting sof?
Speaker 5 (21:33):
I'm still getting sof and that is so fine.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
I know, like a lot of girls shared the video
that Raiders put out of me for the Metal nomination
and they're all riding Chewy on it and I'm like,
are they too nervous to tell me in person or
I'm not sure? But no, it hasn't caught on yet. No,
maybe next season.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
Has go a court on for a lease.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Ah, okay, I have a really quick story. I'll be
very quick.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
But so I still say go Anna. Everyone calls her Juni,
which is fine, but you know it's go.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Ona to me.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
But I was chatting to one of my mates and
he was saying that some of his mates from AFL
were messing around on a Saturday night after their game
and yeah, they put they put belts around their necks
and then they start put and I lived.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
That bull Is that what it's called? And I'm like, yeah,
it is.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
I just think back to this and I'm like, you
really do learn something every day, don't you.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
We were at tempted to bring out the special edition
of What Is It or where is it from?
Speaker 3 (22:47):
But next time.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Around enough to get a full round all for yourself
next time, I promise, unreal. So thanks very much for
coming in. We really do appreciate it, and congrats on
the season so far. Job's half done. Go out there
and knock them dead for the next few weeks and
finish the job.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
Thank you so much, We've.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Really enjoyed it.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Congratulations on the way you're going and I'm sure you'll
make it eight wins in a row, nine wins in
a row, ten wins in a row on Grand Final day.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
Absolutely, thank you so much. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Saphie Hollowen from the Camber Raiders NROLW side on the
special edition not the Super serious sports Show.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
We'll catch you next
Speaker 1 (23:20):
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