August 30, 2023 • 26 mins
On this episode, Chris Coleman and Adam Jansen discuss the FIBA World CUP, the AFL Finals Series, the AFLW, the NRLW, Max Verstappen's F1 dominance, the retirement of Josh Hodgson, the forthcoming departure of Jarrod Croker and Jack Wighton at the Raiders, Tottenham's latest celebrity fan and Fulham's crushing defeat over their latest rival in the EFL Cup.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Super Serious Sports Show with Chris Coleman and Adam Jansen.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Adam Jansen, It's often said that the month of September
is about the best month of the year for sport,
especially if you're an Australian sports fan, because we have
finals here, we have stuff starting up around the world,
and we have quite often world championships.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Do you or do you not agree?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
No?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I agree first weekend of October is usually pretty good
to Yeah, well that's an attacks on to the end
of September, so it's handy that it falls in place there. Really. Yeah,
it's still August though, you know that, right, I know that.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
But we're on the cusp of September, which means we're
on the cusp of all sorts of things, and like
this program permanently on the cusp of greatness? Have I
gone too far with that?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
It's a lot of things. It's on the cusp of
a lot of things, the cusp of cancelation possibly, but
I don't know. Grace greatness is one of them. I
was about to say, grace, grace, gracefulness, graceness, gracefulness.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
That's not one of them either. Thank you for proving
my case in the negative. This is the super serious
sports show during the past week aj I have I
have watched with interest as some comments made by Noah Lyles,
who is a dead set champion athlete. By the way,
he made some comments that some people are not happy
about the bulk of those people who are not happy
(01:11):
about him, by the way, are Americans, and many of
them are basketballers, which leads us into this. Noah Lyles
has won three two hundred meter world titles on the track.
At the World Championships for athletics, he won the one
hundred and two hundred meter double, which is pretty bloody good, right, Yeah,
he's fast. When asked what does athletics need to do
to increase his profile, he said, well, it would help
in America if teams are playing domestic leagues didn't call
(01:33):
themselves world champions. He does have a point because the
NFL champions, mind you, being the NFL champions as not
being the AFL champions, or being the Irish hurling champions
or being I don't know, pick anything from what is
it or where is it from and being the champion
in that baseball It's debatable, but the Bunny really took
(01:53):
issue with was basketball saying the NBA champions call themselves
world champions. Does he have a point?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
He has a point. They call themselves the world champions
when they win. There's thirty teams in the NBA, and
how many of them are from outside the US and
Canada zero? Right? Act, only one of them is from
outside the US. So why is there a Basketball World Cup? Then?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
If the NBA champions are the the world champions, why
is there a Basketball World Cup?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I'll tell you why, okay, Because the system is so
complicated that most people, myself included, get halfway through an
article where it's explaining it can't understand it. So then
it's just easier just to call these guys world champions
because the rest of us that we can't figure it out.
Stay with me here, Okay, you can figure it out
(02:40):
because you went to a fancy pants private school. I
did not.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Let's play a game here. I'm going to try and
explain it. I want you at the point it gets
too confusing to follow, to just say that it's too
confusing to follow, and we'll stop.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Them, okay.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
World Basketball Cup thirty two teams YEP, eight groups of
four YEP, spread across four venues yep, in three countries.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Okay, it's getting complicated. No, No, I'm still with you, all right, Okay.
Each of those groups plays around robin within the group. Yes,
so Australia played their three games. Australia has played Germany,
Finland and Japan. They won two out of three they did,
which means they have finished second in their group. So
that the top two go through, right to go through?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, and then they play the top two from the
other group in the same venue. Okay, okay, So in
Australia's case, they finished second in Group E, they all
go through and play games against the top two teams
from Group F. And the top two teams from Group
F right now are Georgia and Slovenia. Because I didn't
(03:40):
want to say Slovakia because it's a different place.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Now, Slovenia would be good. They got look at dontic. Yeah,
so we might be playing Slovenia. Will they're two and two.
They're two and zero, so they probably throw Dallas Mavericks superstar.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Okay, so, but you only carry through It's like the
Super six in the Cricket World Cup. You only carry
through square results. That's where I've heard this before you
carry through your results from the game you played against
the other team from your group that goes through, which
means that Australia will need to probably get through win
both its games against the first and second place teams
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in Group V.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Now believe it, I'm not actually understand Now.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I've ruined the whole point of this sixth so I've
been too good at my job.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I knew I'd seen this system somewhere before. It was
a cricket world. Come, yeah, suck, then it sucks. Now,
okay it does. I'm not saying it's a great system.
But they only play two more games of round robin.
They guarantee two more games in a second round robin.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
So in the second stage they've already lost a game
despite the fact they haven't played a game.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yes exactly, they go onto the second stage alongside probably Georgia,
maybe maybe Cape Verdey, but it won't be Venezuela.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
You know who they're not going to play later in
the tournament. Who are they not going to play later
in the tournament? France? Why are they not going to
play Franks? Because France? Yeah, exactly, they stack of NBA
players and they're gone after you get to this through
this second round.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
One thing I don't mind about this, by the way,
is that if you finish in the bottom half, you
pull you get to get going into the classification round.
So you can go home and say, hey, we finished
twenty sixth at the oh.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
They do a matter.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
They do that they classify through the sep to seventeen
through thirty two.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Once you get to the quarter finals, so finished top
of your group. So the team that comes thirty second
finished top your group, you go through to a quarter finals.
I want to spoon finish second in your group.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
You also go through to a quarter final, and then
there's semis and a third place game, and the winner
of game eighty seven plays the winner of game eighty
eight in game ninety two, and that's the final.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
And that is on the tenth of September. I was
so far off.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Moving right along, we get into the AFL finals. They're happening.
Not this week. The stupidest thing in the world. The
bye week is on. And as we have discussed, it
means that a player can get a concussion in a
preliminary final and out, but a player gets a concussion
in a round twenty three you're around twenty four. Whatever
they choose as the last round and can recover for
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the first week of the finals. What's more important the
first week of the finals of the grand final.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Grand final. So the bye week should be the week
before the Grand final. Nah, I prefer the way they've
done it now.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Until an important player from an important team misses a
grand final, you whatched, they'll change it quickly as.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
But before the grand final it only affects two teams.
Right now it affects eighteen. But don't you want your
Grand Final to be the best of the best. Yeah,
it's already going to be the best of the best.
It's also fairer, by the way, Well, we've had this
discussion before around the NRL Grand Final. The NRL Grand
Final will inevitably move to there'll be a week off
in the NRL. It'll happen in the NRL first. Yeah,
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it'll happen in the NRL because there'll be a game
where a Nathan Cleary or a Latrell Mitchell or a
Cody Walker or someone like that, or a Reese Walsh
will get a head knock in a preliminary final and
they will be automatically rubbed out of the Grand Final.
A couple of.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Things though, One is you can put money on this
that down the track, this bye week will disappear because
the AFL is moving closer and closer to having wild
card games. They'll stick those on this week. You watch,
That's what I'll do with it. They'll stick wild card
games in there, which is another dumb idea, because you
already got wild card games. We have wildcard games already.
(07:16):
Those are Carlton versus Sydney ands and killed a versus
Greater Western Sydney.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Who's gonna win?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Uh geez. I'd like to say Sydney, but I can't
see it. I can I can't see it. They've they've
they've limped towards the finals.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
They have. But this is a team that made the
Grand Final last year. They were gone halfway through this season,
so were GWS, and there were there were a few
teams who were not gone who are now gone, the
Western Bulldogs being one of them. That's a shame. Yeah,
I know they're real pity. My head says Carlton, my
heart says Sydney obviously, But yeah, I think it could
(07:50):
be a really close game. I can see the Swans winning.
What about what about GWS. I'm surprised that they are favorites.
I'm not there. They're on a huge role.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Of the game they lost against Port Adelaide was at
the Adelaide Oval. They were down in numbers. Otherwise they
have beaten all comers in the past seven weeks. They
have really they are arguably in the best form outside
of Carlton going into the finals. Carlton took their foot
off the gas massively in the second half of that.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, Carlton put the Q in the rack. But the game.
The reason I question the Giants been the favorites. It's
at the MCG. Saint Kilda have played multiple games at
the MCG this season. GWS have played one and they
lost by sixty five points and it was early in
the year. I'm not talking about Melbourne. Okay, they played
games at Marvel. I'm talking about Melbourne. I'm talking about
the ground itself. And as we know in AFL, the
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field does not have a there's no unified no, it
can vary greatly. Yes, yeah, so I think that's going
to count against the Giants.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I think they've won at ten grounds already this season.
I've just added the mcg to the list again.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah, I just think ross Lyon might have a game
plan that might that might rattle, might rattle the Giants.
Which team won't win out of the eight I'm going
to go big. Which team won't win Collingwood? Yeah, Melbourne
will beat Collingwood. Collingwood are in all sorts. They've got
no day coos unless there's a miracle. But at the moment,
oh they do. That's a lie. I'm incorrect. They do
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have a day coos they Josh, they have the other
daycos they don't have Nick the lesser decoss He's still
pretty good. Yeah, but he's not as good. No, but
if Nick had taken up a different sport, Josh Deakos
would be rated a lot higher. It's got a crap beard.
But you know that's just my thoughts on it. So
you reckon Melbourne will beat Collingwood. I do too.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I reckon Meldon Bey Collingwood. I think colling would have
just limped into the finals. They beat Essendon. But who can't.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Oh yeah, we chuck a working him team together at
the moment.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Essonton put the Q in the rack for their season.
During the first quarter of the second last round. They
were abysmal against GWS and they were worse against Collingwood,
but Collingwood didn't put him to the sword. You know,
Collingod should have won that game by one hundred and
eighty points.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Ah. When I looked at the score and it was
sixty seven to three, that felt pretty sword like to me.
Essendon playing like a team that's trying to get their
coach sacked again. The only remaining game Brisbane versus Port.
That's a tough one. Brisbane at home are very very
hard to beat.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
The super serious sports show, the AFLW does start this week.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
The AFLW, I think is not as good a product
as the NROLW. I'm going to put that out there
right now. The plus that it has is that every
club is represented in the AFLW, and that won't be
the case in the NRLW for a few years. But
I just think in terms of a spectator sport, I'm
not talking about the ability, I'm not talking about the fitness.
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I just think in terms of expectator sport, the aflw's
offering is not as strong as the NRLW.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
And I've watched a lot of both. I actually think
I'll get into the AFLW a lot more this season
because the advantage they've got is the NRLW and the
nrl both finish on the same day. They finished the
same weekend as the afl The AFLW is still another five,
six seven weeks, right. I get what they're.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Trying to do with the afl W. They're trying to
build it up and say it's a separate dity. It's
a standalone thing, and the neral W will eventually go
down that path.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
The problem at the moment that I have in the
afl W is the difference between the good teams and
the bad teams is significant. So there's a lot of blowouts.
There's a lot of one sided games. First game Collingwood
versus Melbourne, that's pretty big.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Aneral W raider has got a reality check on the weekend.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Who beats Brisbane or is Sydney still the favorite?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Sydney the favorite? Yeah, they're at Brisbane side though. Gee
they when they start putting the foot to the floor,
they look really good. They're getting better every week they do.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
But the roosters are getting better every week too, and
the roosters just I think the best way to explain it.
They look faster across the park. They look faster, they
look more powerful, They're passing game is smoother. They've got
a very talent stacked back line, and the other advantage
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they've got to is continuity. So they've been one of
the best sides for ever since the competition started, and
I think we're starting to see a little bit now
of the teams that have been together for a while
starting to overpower the new team's course Paramatta, they got
their first win on the weekend. It was a really
good game, actually really tight tussle. The Raiders game was not.
(12:20):
The Raiders started fantastic and I think coach Darren Borthwick,
I think would be pretty disappointed with how that went.
I also think there was a little bit of experimenting
going on from the Raiders coach and probably putting a
team out there that wasn't our best side. We'll get
hing on at some stage, stayah, We'll do that very quickly.
Need to mention this because I don't know where to
put this on the show, so I'm going to come
up with it right now. In Formula one, Max Fishtappan
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has won a ninth race in a row yep. Is
it just me?
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Or has Formula one become more boring this year than
it has been for several years when it hasn't exactly
been exciting and is not a patch on what it
you used to be. And I'm going to sound really
old here in the nineteen seventies and eighties. Well, you're
around when Saint George one eleven in a row.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
No, I wasn't. You're around when Saint George one eleven
in a row. How boring was that?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Well, yeah, I wasn't there, so I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Okay, Yeah it looks pretty boring. And a record it does? It?
Does vestappen? Yeah, nine in a row. I don't follow
the Formula one very closely.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
As I mentioned, I used to live in England, right,
I used to live in the UK and in the
late seventies early eighties near Silstone, and no, you're closer
to brands Hatch. You get the Formula one races there variously,
sort of two or three in the afternoon on a Sunday.
It was a great Sunday afternoons entertainment, except my mother
would send me to go outside. So I go outside
to on the TV around and watch it through the window. Anyway,
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when I came back from the UK, I would stay
up late and watch the races on Channel nine when
they used to be on Free to Wear, even though
Channel Line sometimes would say it was live when they
were delaying it by two or three hours. But you
had PK, you had Senna, you had Alan Jones, you
had Nigel Mansell, you had anyone.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
When did you live in the UK.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Seventy nine to eighty two, Alan Jones won his World championship.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
James James Hunt.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
James Hunt had retired by then, but you know, to
Mansell around you Manson was around in the eighties, Nicki
Louder was around. You had a bevy of guys who
could win races and cars could overtake. It's just these days,
as the Twelfth Man said, these cars.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Are going round and round and round, and it's been
so boring. It just is. I I just can't get
into it. That's why I like Vight supercars more. I
know the cars don't go as fast, but there's a
bit of bumping, a bit of grinding, bit of Robin.
It's fun. Robin's racing, the guy says, and days of thunder,
so there we go, ladies and gentlemen. That's NASCAR racing.
It's not Vight Supercars, but it's a lot closer.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Just if you're listening to this on the Board podcast,
just go back and listen to that again. Yes, Adam
Jannsen did just say he likes a bit of bumping
and grinding and Robin Robin's racing a long and securitus
route to get there this week. But in the National
Rugby League, Paramatta, despite the regular season not being over,
have already held their presentation night.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
You find that's it's so funny they got the buy
this weekend. I know, but it just amuses me. There
it makes sense if I was running Paramatter, I would
have done it too. You Garamta, you could have done
it ten weeks ago. You got the buyer in the
last round. Of course you'd do it that week. Why
wouldn't you?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Because your season shouldn't be over. You should still be compared.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
But the Raiders season probably won't be overcome next Tuesday night.
But guess where we're going. It's different.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Your rewards are handed out on the regular season, that's all,
you know. Keep it going.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Paramata aren't playing this week. Their season that regular season
is over, so they're doing it this week so that
the players can either go to Bali or had they
made the finals, prep for the finals anyway. Josh Watson's
retiring from Paramatta.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
He is a man who single handedly at some stages
stole games when he was playing for the Camber Raiders.
Got the Camber Raiders to the twenty nineteen Grand Final,
and you would be arguing a silly point to say
that he didn't help the Raiders gets the twenty nine
Grand Final.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Oh absolutely help the Raiders get to the twenty nine
ten Grandfive. He was the only hooker in the team
at the time. He was playing eighty minutes. He was
the co captain. It's when it starts with the competition.
Twenty sixteen season, he was fantastic ren we the Raiders
made the big run to the prelim final lost against Melbourne.
But I think they were Josh Hodgson's two best years
as a canber Raider. But I liked Hodgo from the
(16:18):
moment I saw him paul on a green jersey. Because
he played to win every single week. You could never
ever criticize his effort levels, the courage. Unfortunately, injuries ruined
the latter years of his career. I think he tore
his ACL two three times. He's retired with a neck injury.
So for the eight seasons he played for the Raiders,
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he was easily in the top three players across that period.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Absolutely. Do you think he moves into coaching? Do you
think the Raiders can lure him back? Because I know
they've got Mage maguire, But a bloke like him, with
the knowledge that he's got the football brain, that he's got,
the ability he's got to motivate people around him, he
would be outstanding as a coach. In a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I think he'd make a wonderful coach. I don't know
what sort of terms he finished up on the Raiders with,
so that comes into question. And look, let's face it,
if the Raiders don't move Michael McGuire into a like,
if Ricky doesn't retire at any point, Madge is going
to get Madge is going to get another head coaching
job at some point. Mad just not done as a
head coach. So I wouldn't be surprised if the next
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time a coach gets sacked, Madge gets a bit of
a gets a text message going, how are you keen?
But might have already got I know the coaches have
been sacked this season. He wouldn't have gone to the
Gold Coast. No, they did the deal with Dez anyway,
and he couldn't go to West's again. That'd be funny,
would have been hilarious. Hey, Penrith brought back Ivan Cleary
after sacking Ivan Cleary. They did. West Tigers brought back
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Tim Sheen's second time after sacking Tip. It does happen.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Speaking of leaving the Raiders, Jack Whiton is leaving the Raiders,
as has been well publicized. The website, by the way,
that started to the that broke the rumor that he
might be backflipping. It's called League Initiative dot com. It's
been shut down.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
We got sent that by a good friend of ours,
who I considered to be quite media savvy and quite
a knowledgeable sports fan. He sent that to me. I
took one look at the website, read the article and went, yet, right,
this is not this has made up nonsense.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I mean I flicked through to that website. I'll read
something from it in just a second. But Whiton and
Croker leaving Farewell was pretty average.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
We celebrated Jared Croker on his three hundredth game. I
think Jared at his own request, I think just wanted
to move on with football after that. Let's face it,
Jack Whiton is going to be back at Geo Stadium
playing for another club, so it's a bit different if
Jack gets the big the big farewell that Jared gets.
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Now here's a question I want to put to you,
especially for about second half of the season. Does it
make Ricky Stewart's job easier next season without Jared Croker
and Jack Whiton in the squad because all of a sudden,
and let's face it, they've both been amazing servant for
the Green Machine, but there have been times throughout this
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period where their form hasn't necessarily warranted selection. Does it
take pressure off Ricky next year? It's different for Ford,
so you get your Elliot whiteheads Y, Josh Papale's a
coming to the end of the career, part of a
middle rotation. You can play them off the bench, you
can give them fifteen minutes and it's not going to
matter when you're playing in the halves or when you're
playing in the backs. I don't know. I just think
(19:38):
it's a bit disruptive. So we're looking now. So Jared
Croker came off the bench the other night, he played
three minutes. Jared Kroger has been named on the bench
again this weekend. If it's a tight game and it's
sixteen all and no players get get injured throughout the game,
Jared might not actually get on the field.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
We've questioned on Raiders on Mix when we're calling games
the bench management of the Raiders on multiple OK.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
So, Jared Croker for every single game of his first
grade career, except with the exception of the game the
last game against the Broncos, has started at left center.
He's never started an NRL game in any other position,
so he doesn't give you utility value. He brings James
Shiller off the bench. Jameshiller can play in the centers,
he can play in the wing. You know, same thing,
Nick Kotrick. He can chuck in the middle of the field.
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That's not Jared Croker played a bit a five to
eight in the trial game. But it's one thing that's
sort of stuck out to me a little bit. And
I just think next year with team selections without the
two automatic choices, I just think Ricky's job is going
to be a bit easier. But when Tuesday four o'clock
rolls around, we'll wait and see who gets the sixth
nod for the Raiders' news. Oh they could be anyone.
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Well that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Finally we get onto the round ball game, the other
round ball game. I've been waiting all show for this career.
Here we go all show. Okay, you can get to
the bit that you're most excited about in a second.
But the thing that has most excited me is the
number of people who have suddenly realized, especially Tottenham fans,
that Ane foster Coglu might actually be a decent coach.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Of course he's a decent coach.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, but a lot of people in the UK and
a lot of people in England particularly didn't think that
might happen. The Tottenham fans have fallen in love with
him to the point where they are now breaking into
song Ala Robbie Williams. And not only are the Tottenham
fans breaking into song Ala Robbie Williams and rewriting a
(21:26):
Robbie Williams classic, but they've actually now managed to persuade
Robbie Williams to break into song and sing his reworked
song that's been reworked by the Tottenham fans like this
can see everywhere we go, I'm loving big aginstead.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
I guess I'm a Spurs fun now.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
And then who is support before? I think he's a tune.
I think he's a Newcastle a Newcastle boy. We'll just
move on. I'll explain it later. We've gone over time again,
I'll explain that later.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, that's because you wanted to play Robbie Williams. Well, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
You know, why wouldn't you about.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
A Yeah, I was gonna say, we made fun of
Tottenham before on this show and we're about to again.
But you think that's that's pretty cool. I enjoyed that.
That was when I woke up and I saw that.
And usually I don't watch videos on like Fox book
because they just go forever. But no, that was that
was cool that. You know what else was cool the
prestigious AFL Cup.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
It is the fourth ranked trophy of the four domestic trophies. No,
it even falls a million miles beyond the Community Shield.
What the thing that the winners of the FA Cup
and the League play for at the start of the
season the traditional like the Charity Shield.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
It is now called the Community Shield. Now THEFL Cup
is bigger than the FA Cup, bigger than English Premier League.
THEFL Cup is rubbish dominant. A dominant display this morning
from Fulham. One all at full time and one on penalties,
and then they won on penalties in a dominant performance.
Who scored the goals?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Tottenham scored both of them. Exactly, there you go. So
you couldn't even Yeah, the only way you could beat
them was Tottenham score.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Tottenham losing a game of football where where your opposition
didn't even put the ball in the back of the net.
That's a bit in the English Premier League, in the
proper stuff. To Putnam's jerseys, what would they I don't know,
some god awful did they wash their white jerseys with
some black jerseys and they came out with this god
awful gray.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
It's a gray brown thing. It's horrible. It's really awful.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Tag jerseys are better than that.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
On the on the subject of the real stuff, they
really are. I'm amazed. There's only six undefeated teams left
already in the Epl's.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Tottenham one of them, aren't they?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Tottenham is one man City three and zero and that's it.
As far as sides that have claimed maximum points, it's
Man City after three. There's only one side with a
winning three. The City are in trouble this weekend. They'll
give you the tip.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I'm going to take one stab.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
They are ahead of west Ham, Tottenham, Liverpool and Arsenal,
who were all two and one, and rather surprisingly, rather surprisingly,
the side that drew with Tottenham Brentford in the first
week of the season is the other side that is
undefeated there one win and two draws.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I love that they're the Bees, they're red and black.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I love the fact that there's a journalistic camera called
brent Ford and he's Corse Brentford. I think that's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Of course he does. Why wouldn't, Well, you got no
other choice? Really, have you? No Fulham about they were
They're about to get the two two scalps in one week.
They're going to knock off Man City despite the fact
that they're about sixteen to one. What's Man City's home ground?
The big one, the big one.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
It's the old it's the stadium, No, no, Man that's
Man United, It's Old Trafford. Man City have got the old,
the stadium that the Conwealth Games are played at now
ah in two thousand and when when were the When
were they in Manchester?
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, the Conwell Games, they're right up there with the
important other sporting things like the AFL Cup.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
The AFL Cup, the prestigious AFL Cup. There are only
Cottonam put their best team out there.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Probably not, I haven't even looked. I didn't even know
even turn up to coach Well. He would have had
to have been contractually obliged. I Fulham turned up. I'm
not sure of this, but it used to be a
few years ago that there were only two countries in
Europe that had their league, an FA Cup and a
League Cup, and even the French, who were the other ones,
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realized that it was a stupid idea.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
You know what they should replace the like a midweek
knockout competition, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yeah, And you get seeded into it depending on where
you are in the league and so on. But by
a round two almost every teams in it. By round
three everyone's in. But if so, I don't think man City,
for instance, would have played in the AFL Cup overnight.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Right, Okay, yeah, they'll.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Go in they'll go straight into Round three because they
play in Europe. But what would be better would be
if they had a knockout competition within each league. So
in the Premier League, maybe not have the Premier LEAUE,
but they have it in the Championship and in the
League One and League's have the League One knockout Cup.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
During the course of the season. For Wrexham lost, did they? Yeah,
they lost to Bradford City. No real surprise. Rexham's way
down the bottom. We over them. Now have we move
done with our lives until the new series starts, which
is only a couple of weeks away. I need to
watch Ted Lasso you do. It looks like a lot of.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Fun, it is, and there's there's there's all sorts of
rumors that there's going to be a spin off of
that as well. If I hear anymore of that, I'll
let you know next week. But I think we are
done for today. Unless you platforms it on Apple Plus.
I need to get that one. Yeah, I'll buy yourself
an iPhone they throw on free. Yeah, iPhone, I've got one.
You probably won't get it for free when you if
you buy a new phone, then I don't pay for
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it like a normal person. Normal you, really, what happened
to bumping and rubbing and grinding Adam Jansen Next week
Days of thunder, Bye bye
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Amplify CB
The Super Serious Sports Show with Chris Coleman and Adam Jansen.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Adam Jansen, It's often said that the month of September
is about the best month of the year for sport,
especially if you're an Australian sports fan, because we have
finals here, we have stuff starting up around the world,
and we have quite often world championships.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Do you or do you not agree?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
No?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I agree first weekend of October is usually pretty good
to Yeah, well that's an attacks on to the end
of September, so it's handy that it falls in place there. Really. Yeah,
it's still August though, you know that, right, I know that.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
But we're on the cusp of September, which means we're
on the cusp of all sorts of things, and like
this program permanently on the cusp of greatness? Have I
gone too far with that?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
It's a lot of things. It's on the cusp of
a lot of things, the cusp of cancelation possibly, but
I don't know. Grace greatness is one of them. I
was about to say, grace, grace, gracefulness, graceness, gracefulness.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
That's not one of them either. Thank you for proving
my case in the negative. This is the super serious
sports show during the past week aj I have I
have watched with interest as some comments made by Noah Lyles,
who is a dead set champion athlete. By the way,
he made some comments that some people are not happy
about the bulk of those people who are not happy
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about him, by the way, are Americans, and many of
them are basketballers, which leads us into this. Noah Lyles
has won three two hundred meter world titles on the track.
At the World Championships for athletics, he won the one
hundred and two hundred meter double, which is pretty bloody good, right, Yeah,
he's fast. When asked what does athletics need to do
to increase his profile, he said, well, it would help
in America if teams are playing domestic leagues didn't call
(01:33):
themselves world champions. He does have a point because the
NFL champions, mind you, being the NFL champions as not
being the AFL champions, or being the Irish hurling champions
or being I don't know, pick anything from what is
it or where is it from and being the champion
in that baseball It's debatable, but the Bunny really took
(01:53):
issue with was basketball saying the NBA champions call themselves
world champions. Does he have a point?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
He has a point. They call themselves the world champions
when they win. There's thirty teams in the NBA, and
how many of them are from outside the US and
Canada zero? Right? Act, only one of them is from
outside the US. So why is there a Basketball World Cup? Then?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
If the NBA champions are the the world champions, why
is there a Basketball World Cup?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I'll tell you why, okay, Because the system is so
complicated that most people, myself included, get halfway through an
article where it's explaining it can't understand it. So then
it's just easier just to call these guys world champions
because the rest of us that we can't figure it out.
Stay with me here, Okay, you can figure it out
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because you went to a fancy pants private school. I
did not.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Let's play a game here. I'm going to try and
explain it. I want you at the point it gets
too confusing to follow, to just say that it's too
confusing to follow, and we'll stop.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Them, okay.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
World Basketball Cup thirty two teams YEP, eight groups of
four YEP, spread across four venues yep, in three countries.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Okay, it's getting complicated. No, No, I'm still with you, all right, Okay.
Each of those groups plays around robin within the group. Yes,
so Australia played their three games. Australia has played Germany,
Finland and Japan. They won two out of three they did,
which means they have finished second in their group. So
that the top two go through, right to go through?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, and then they play the top two from the
other group in the same venue. Okay, okay, So in
Australia's case, they finished second in Group E, they all
go through and play games against the top two teams
from Group F. And the top two teams from Group
F right now are Georgia and Slovenia. Because I didn't
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want to say Slovakia because it's a different place.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Now, Slovenia would be good. They got look at dontic. Yeah,
so we might be playing Slovenia. Will they're two and two.
They're two and zero, so they probably throw Dallas Mavericks superstar.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Okay, so, but you only carry through It's like the
Super six in the Cricket World Cup. You only carry
through square results. That's where I've heard this before you
carry through your results from the game you played against
the other team from your group that goes through, which
means that Australia will need to probably get through win
both its games against the first and second place teams
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in Group V.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Now believe it, I'm not actually understand Now.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I've ruined the whole point of this sixth so I've
been too good at my job.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I knew I'd seen this system somewhere before. It was
a cricket world. Come, yeah, suck, then it sucks. Now,
okay it does. I'm not saying it's a great system.
But they only play two more games of round robin.
They guarantee two more games in a second round robin.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
So in the second stage they've already lost a game
despite the fact they haven't played a game.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yes exactly, they go onto the second stage alongside probably Georgia,
maybe maybe Cape Verdey, but it won't be Venezuela.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
You know who they're not going to play later in
the tournament. Who are they not going to play later
in the tournament? France? Why are they not going to
play Franks? Because France? Yeah, exactly, they stack of NBA
players and they're gone after you get to this through
this second round.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
One thing I don't mind about this, by the way,
is that if you finish in the bottom half, you
pull you get to get going into the classification round.
So you can go home and say, hey, we finished
twenty sixth at the oh.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
They do a matter.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
They do that they classify through the sep to seventeen
through thirty two.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Once you get to the quarter finals, so finished top
of your group. So the team that comes thirty second
finished top your group, you go through to a quarter finals.
I want to spoon finish second in your group.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
You also go through to a quarter final, and then
there's semis and a third place game, and the winner
of game eighty seven plays the winner of game eighty
eight in game ninety two, and that's the final.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
And that is on the tenth of September. I was
so far off.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Moving right along, we get into the AFL finals. They're happening.
Not this week. The stupidest thing in the world. The
bye week is on. And as we have discussed, it
means that a player can get a concussion in a
preliminary final and out, but a player gets a concussion
in a round twenty three you're around twenty four. Whatever
they choose as the last round and can recover for
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the first week of the finals. What's more important the
first week of the finals of the grand final.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Grand final. So the bye week should be the week
before the Grand final. Nah, I prefer the way they've
done it now.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Until an important player from an important team misses a
grand final, you whatched, they'll change it quickly as.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
But before the grand final it only affects two teams.
Right now it affects eighteen. But don't you want your
Grand Final to be the best of the best. Yeah,
it's already going to be the best of the best.
It's also fairer, by the way, Well, we've had this
discussion before around the NRL Grand Final. The NRL Grand
Final will inevitably move to there'll be a week off
in the NRL. It'll happen in the NRL first. Yeah,
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it'll happen in the NRL because there'll be a game
where a Nathan Cleary or a Latrell Mitchell or a
Cody Walker or someone like that, or a Reese Walsh
will get a head knock in a preliminary final and
they will be automatically rubbed out of the Grand Final.
A couple of.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Things though, One is you can put money on this
that down the track, this bye week will disappear because
the AFL is moving closer and closer to having wild
card games. They'll stick those on this week. You watch,
That's what I'll do with it. They'll stick wild card
games in there, which is another dumb idea, because you
already got wild card games. We have wildcard games already.
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Those are Carlton versus Sydney ands and killed a versus
Greater Western Sydney.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Who's gonna win?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Uh geez. I'd like to say Sydney, but I can't
see it. I can I can't see it. They've they've
they've limped towards the finals.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
They have. But this is a team that made the
Grand Final last year. They were gone halfway through this season,
so were GWS, and there were there were a few
teams who were not gone who are now gone, the
Western Bulldogs being one of them. That's a shame. Yeah,
I know they're real pity. My head says Carlton, my
heart says Sydney obviously, But yeah, I think it could
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be a really close game. I can see the Swans winning.
What about what about GWS. I'm surprised that they are favorites.
I'm not there. They're on a huge role.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Of the game they lost against Port Adelaide was at
the Adelaide Oval. They were down in numbers. Otherwise they
have beaten all comers in the past seven weeks. They
have really they are arguably in the best form outside
of Carlton going into the finals. Carlton took their foot
off the gas massively in the second half of that.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, Carlton put the Q in the rack. But the game.
The reason I question the Giants been the favorites. It's
at the MCG. Saint Kilda have played multiple games at
the MCG this season. GWS have played one and they
lost by sixty five points and it was early in
the year. I'm not talking about Melbourne. Okay, they played
games at Marvel. I'm talking about Melbourne. I'm talking about
the ground itself. And as we know in AFL, the
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field does not have a there's no unified no, it
can vary greatly. Yes, yeah, so I think that's going
to count against the Giants.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I think they've won at ten grounds already this season.
I've just added the mcg to the list again.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah, I just think ross Lyon might have a game
plan that might that might rattle, might rattle the Giants.
Which team won't win out of the eight I'm going
to go big. Which team won't win Collingwood? Yeah, Melbourne
will beat Collingwood. Collingwood are in all sorts. They've got
no day coos unless there's a miracle. But at the moment,
oh they do. That's a lie. I'm incorrect. They do
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have a day coos they Josh, they have the other
daycos they don't have Nick the lesser decoss He's still
pretty good. Yeah, but he's not as good. No, but
if Nick had taken up a different sport, Josh Deakos
would be rated a lot higher. It's got a crap beard.
But you know that's just my thoughts on it. So
you reckon Melbourne will beat Collingwood. I do too.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I reckon Meldon Bey Collingwood. I think colling would have
just limped into the finals. They beat Essendon. But who can't.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Oh yeah, we chuck a working him team together at
the moment.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Essonton put the Q in the rack for their season.
During the first quarter of the second last round. They
were abysmal against GWS and they were worse against Collingwood,
but Collingwood didn't put him to the sword. You know,
Collingod should have won that game by one hundred and
eighty points.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Ah. When I looked at the score and it was
sixty seven to three, that felt pretty sword like to me.
Essendon playing like a team that's trying to get their
coach sacked again. The only remaining game Brisbane versus Port.
That's a tough one. Brisbane at home are very very
hard to beat.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
The super serious sports show, the AFLW does start this week.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
The AFLW, I think is not as good a product
as the NROLW. I'm going to put that out there
right now. The plus that it has is that every
club is represented in the AFLW, and that won't be
the case in the NRLW for a few years. But
I just think in terms of a spectator sport, I'm
not talking about the ability, I'm not talking about the fitness.
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I just think in terms of expectator sport, the aflw's
offering is not as strong as the NRLW.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
And I've watched a lot of both. I actually think
I'll get into the AFLW a lot more this season
because the advantage they've got is the NRLW and the
nrl both finish on the same day. They finished the
same weekend as the afl The AFLW is still another five,
six seven weeks, right. I get what they're.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Trying to do with the afl W. They're trying to
build it up and say it's a separate dity. It's
a standalone thing, and the neral W will eventually go
down that path.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
The problem at the moment that I have in the
afl W is the difference between the good teams and
the bad teams is significant. So there's a lot of blowouts.
There's a lot of one sided games. First game Collingwood
versus Melbourne, that's pretty big.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Aneral W raider has got a reality check on the weekend.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Who beats Brisbane or is Sydney still the favorite?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Sydney the favorite? Yeah, they're at Brisbane side though. Gee
they when they start putting the foot to the floor,
they look really good. They're getting better every week they do.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
But the roosters are getting better every week too, and
the roosters just I think the best way to explain it.
They look faster across the park. They look faster, they
look more powerful, They're passing game is smoother. They've got
a very talent stacked back line, and the other advantage
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they've got to is continuity. So they've been one of
the best sides for ever since the competition started, and
I think we're starting to see a little bit now
of the teams that have been together for a while
starting to overpower the new team's course Paramatta, they got
their first win on the weekend. It was a really
good game, actually really tight tussle. The Raiders game was not.
(12:20):
The Raiders started fantastic and I think coach Darren Borthwick,
I think would be pretty disappointed with how that went.
I also think there was a little bit of experimenting
going on from the Raiders coach and probably putting a
team out there that wasn't our best side. We'll get
hing on at some stage, stayah, We'll do that very quickly.
Need to mention this because I don't know where to
put this on the show, so I'm going to come
up with it right now. In Formula one, Max Fishtappan
(12:43):
has won a ninth race in a row yep. Is
it just me?
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Or has Formula one become more boring this year than
it has been for several years when it hasn't exactly
been exciting and is not a patch on what it
you used to be. And I'm going to sound really
old here in the nineteen seventies and eighties. Well, you're
around when Saint George one eleven in a row.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
No, I wasn't. You're around when Saint George one eleven
in a row. How boring was that?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Well, yeah, I wasn't there, so I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Okay, Yeah it looks pretty boring. And a record it does? It?
Does vestappen? Yeah, nine in a row. I don't follow
the Formula one very closely.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
As I mentioned, I used to live in England, right,
I used to live in the UK and in the
late seventies early eighties near Silstone, and no, you're closer
to brands Hatch. You get the Formula one races there variously,
sort of two or three in the afternoon on a Sunday.
It was a great Sunday afternoons entertainment, except my mother
would send me to go outside. So I go outside
to on the TV around and watch it through the window. Anyway,
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when I came back from the UK, I would stay
up late and watch the races on Channel nine when
they used to be on Free to Wear, even though
Channel Line sometimes would say it was live when they
were delaying it by two or three hours. But you
had PK, you had Senna, you had Alan Jones, you
had Nigel Mansell, you had anyone.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
When did you live in the UK.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Seventy nine to eighty two, Alan Jones won his World championship.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
James James Hunt.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
James Hunt had retired by then, but you know, to
Mansell around you Manson was around in the eighties, Nicki
Louder was around. You had a bevy of guys who
could win races and cars could overtake. It's just these days,
as the Twelfth Man said, these cars.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Are going round and round and round, and it's been
so boring. It just is. I I just can't get
into it. That's why I like Vight supercars more. I
know the cars don't go as fast, but there's a
bit of bumping, a bit of grinding, bit of Robin.
It's fun. Robin's racing, the guy says, and days of thunder,
so there we go, ladies and gentlemen. That's NASCAR racing.
It's not Vight Supercars, but it's a lot closer.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Just if you're listening to this on the Board podcast,
just go back and listen to that again. Yes, Adam
Jannsen did just say he likes a bit of bumping
and grinding and Robin Robin's racing a long and securitus
route to get there this week. But in the National
Rugby League, Paramatta, despite the regular season not being over,
have already held their presentation night.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
You find that's it's so funny they got the buy
this weekend. I know, but it just amuses me. There
it makes sense if I was running Paramatter, I would
have done it too. You Garamta, you could have done
it ten weeks ago. You got the buyer in the
last round. Of course you'd do it that week. Why
wouldn't you?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Because your season shouldn't be over. You should still be compared.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
But the Raiders season probably won't be overcome next Tuesday night.
But guess where we're going. It's different.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Your rewards are handed out on the regular season, that's all,
you know. Keep it going.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Paramata aren't playing this week. Their season that regular season
is over, so they're doing it this week so that
the players can either go to Bali or had they
made the finals, prep for the finals anyway. Josh Watson's
retiring from Paramatta.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
He is a man who single handedly at some stages
stole games when he was playing for the Camber Raiders.
Got the Camber Raiders to the twenty nineteen Grand Final,
and you would be arguing a silly point to say
that he didn't help the Raiders gets the twenty nine
Grand Final.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Oh absolutely help the Raiders get to the twenty nine
ten Grandfive. He was the only hooker in the team
at the time. He was playing eighty minutes. He was
the co captain. It's when it starts with the competition.
Twenty sixteen season, he was fantastic ren we the Raiders
made the big run to the prelim final lost against Melbourne.
But I think they were Josh Hodgson's two best years
as a canber Raider. But I liked Hodgo from the
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moment I saw him paul on a green jersey. Because
he played to win every single week. You could never
ever criticize his effort levels, the courage. Unfortunately, injuries ruined
the latter years of his career. I think he tore
his ACL two three times. He's retired with a neck injury.
So for the eight seasons he played for the Raiders,
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he was easily in the top three players across that period.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Absolutely. Do you think he moves into coaching? Do you
think the Raiders can lure him back? Because I know
they've got Mage maguire, But a bloke like him, with
the knowledge that he's got the football brain, that he's got,
the ability he's got to motivate people around him, he
would be outstanding as a coach. In a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I think he'd make a wonderful coach. I don't know
what sort of terms he finished up on the Raiders with,
so that comes into question. And look, let's face it,
if the Raiders don't move Michael McGuire into a like,
if Ricky doesn't retire at any point, Madge is going
to get Madge is going to get another head coaching
job at some point. Mad just not done as a
head coach. So I wouldn't be surprised if the next
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time a coach gets sacked, Madge gets a bit of
a gets a text message going, how are you keen?
But might have already got I know the coaches have
been sacked this season. He wouldn't have gone to the
Gold Coast. No, they did the deal with Dez anyway,
and he couldn't go to West's again. That'd be funny,
would have been hilarious. Hey, Penrith brought back Ivan Cleary
after sacking Ivan Cleary. They did. West Tigers brought back
(17:49):
Tim Sheen's second time after sacking Tip. It does happen.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Speaking of leaving the Raiders, Jack Whiton is leaving the Raiders,
as has been well publicized. The website, by the way,
that started to the that broke the rumor that he
might be backflipping. It's called League Initiative dot com. It's
been shut down.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
We got sent that by a good friend of ours,
who I considered to be quite media savvy and quite
a knowledgeable sports fan. He sent that to me. I
took one look at the website, read the article and went, yet, right,
this is not this has made up nonsense.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I mean I flicked through to that website. I'll read
something from it in just a second. But Whiton and
Croker leaving Farewell was pretty average.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
We celebrated Jared Croker on his three hundredth game. I
think Jared at his own request, I think just wanted
to move on with football after that. Let's face it,
Jack Whiton is going to be back at Geo Stadium
playing for another club, so it's a bit different if
Jack gets the big the big farewell that Jared gets.
(18:55):
Now here's a question I want to put to you,
especially for about second half of the season. Does it
make Ricky Stewart's job easier next season without Jared Croker
and Jack Whiton in the squad because all of a sudden,
and let's face it, they've both been amazing servant for
the Green Machine, but there have been times throughout this
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period where their form hasn't necessarily warranted selection. Does it
take pressure off Ricky next year? It's different for Ford,
so you get your Elliot whiteheads Y, Josh Papale's a
coming to the end of the career, part of a
middle rotation. You can play them off the bench, you
can give them fifteen minutes and it's not going to
matter when you're playing in the halves or when you're
playing in the backs. I don't know. I just think
(19:38):
it's a bit disruptive. So we're looking now. So Jared
Croker came off the bench the other night, he played
three minutes. Jared Kroger has been named on the bench
again this weekend. If it's a tight game and it's
sixteen all and no players get get injured throughout the game,
Jared might not actually get on the field.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
We've questioned on Raiders on Mix when we're calling games
the bench management of the Raiders on multiple OK.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
So, Jared Croker for every single game of his first
grade career, except with the exception of the game the
last game against the Broncos, has started at left center.
He's never started an NRL game in any other position,
so he doesn't give you utility value. He brings James
Shiller off the bench. Jameshiller can play in the centers,
he can play in the wing. You know, same thing,
Nick Kotrick. He can chuck in the middle of the field.
(20:21):
That's not Jared Croker played a bit a five to
eight in the trial game. But it's one thing that's
sort of stuck out to me a little bit. And
I just think next year with team selections without the
two automatic choices, I just think Ricky's job is going
to be a bit easier. But when Tuesday four o'clock
rolls around, we'll wait and see who gets the sixth
nod for the Raiders' news. Oh they could be anyone.
(20:42):
Well that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Finally we get onto the round ball game, the other
round ball game. I've been waiting all show for this career.
Here we go all show. Okay, you can get to
the bit that you're most excited about in a second.
But the thing that has most excited me is the
number of people who have suddenly realized, especially Tottenham fans,
that Ane foster Coglu might actually be a decent coach.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Of course he's a decent coach.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, but a lot of people in the UK and
a lot of people in England particularly didn't think that
might happen. The Tottenham fans have fallen in love with
him to the point where they are now breaking into
song Ala Robbie Williams. And not only are the Tottenham
fans breaking into song Ala Robbie Williams and rewriting a
(21:26):
Robbie Williams classic, but they've actually now managed to persuade
Robbie Williams to break into song and sing his reworked
song that's been reworked by the Tottenham fans like this
can see everywhere we go, I'm loving big aginstead.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
I guess I'm a Spurs fun now.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
And then who is support before? I think he's a tune.
I think he's a Newcastle a Newcastle boy. We'll just
move on. I'll explain it later. We've gone over time again,
I'll explain that later.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, that's because you wanted to play Robbie Williams. Well, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
You know, why wouldn't you about.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
A Yeah, I was gonna say, we made fun of
Tottenham before on this show and we're about to again.
But you think that's that's pretty cool. I enjoyed that.
That was when I woke up and I saw that.
And usually I don't watch videos on like Fox book
because they just go forever. But no, that was that
was cool that. You know what else was cool the
prestigious AFL Cup.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
It is the fourth ranked trophy of the four domestic trophies. No,
it even falls a million miles beyond the Community Shield.
What the thing that the winners of the FA Cup
and the League play for at the start of the
season the traditional like the Charity Shield.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
It is now called the Community Shield. Now THEFL Cup
is bigger than the FA Cup, bigger than English Premier League.
THEFL Cup is rubbish dominant. A dominant display this morning
from Fulham. One all at full time and one on penalties,
and then they won on penalties in a dominant performance.
Who scored the goals?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Tottenham scored both of them. Exactly, there you go. So
you couldn't even Yeah, the only way you could beat
them was Tottenham score.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Tottenham losing a game of football where where your opposition
didn't even put the ball in the back of the net.
That's a bit in the English Premier League, in the
proper stuff. To Putnam's jerseys, what would they I don't know,
some god awful did they wash their white jerseys with
some black jerseys and they came out with this god
awful gray.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
It's a gray brown thing. It's horrible. It's really awful.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Tag jerseys are better than that.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
On the on the subject of the real stuff, they
really are. I'm amazed. There's only six undefeated teams left
already in the Epl's.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Tottenham one of them, aren't they?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Tottenham is one man City three and zero and that's it.
As far as sides that have claimed maximum points, it's
Man City after three. There's only one side with a
winning three. The City are in trouble this weekend. They'll
give you the tip.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I'm going to take one stab.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
They are ahead of west Ham, Tottenham, Liverpool and Arsenal,
who were all two and one, and rather surprisingly, rather surprisingly,
the side that drew with Tottenham Brentford in the first
week of the season is the other side that is
undefeated there one win and two draws.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I love that they're the Bees, they're red and black.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I love the fact that there's a journalistic camera called
brent Ford and he's Corse Brentford. I think that's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Of course he does. Why wouldn't, Well, you got no
other choice? Really, have you? No Fulham about they were
They're about to get the two two scalps in one week.
They're going to knock off Man City despite the fact
that they're about sixteen to one. What's Man City's home ground?
The big one, the big one.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
It's the old it's the stadium, No, no, Man that's
Man United, It's Old Trafford. Man City have got the old,
the stadium that the Conwealth Games are played at now
ah in two thousand and when when were the When
were they in Manchester?
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, the Conwell Games, they're right up there with the
important other sporting things like the AFL Cup.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
The AFL Cup, the prestigious AFL Cup. There are only
Cottonam put their best team out there.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Probably not, I haven't even looked. I didn't even know
even turn up to coach Well. He would have had
to have been contractually obliged. I Fulham turned up. I'm
not sure of this, but it used to be a
few years ago that there were only two countries in
Europe that had their league, an FA Cup and a
League Cup, and even the French, who were the other ones,
(25:14):
realized that it was a stupid idea.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
You know what they should replace the like a midweek
knockout competition, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yeah, And you get seeded into it depending on where
you are in the league and so on. But by
a round two almost every teams in it. By round
three everyone's in. But if so, I don't think man City,
for instance, would have played in the AFL Cup overnight.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Right, Okay, yeah, they'll.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Go in they'll go straight into Round three because they
play in Europe. But what would be better would be
if they had a knockout competition within each league. So
in the Premier League, maybe not have the Premier LEAUE,
but they have it in the Championship and in the
League One and League's have the League One knockout Cup.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
During the course of the season. For Wrexham lost, did they? Yeah,
they lost to Bradford City. No real surprise. Rexham's way
down the bottom. We over them. Now have we move
done with our lives until the new series starts, which
is only a couple of weeks away. I need to
watch Ted Lasso you do. It looks like a lot of.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Fun, it is, and there's there's there's all sorts of
rumors that there's going to be a spin off of
that as well. If I hear anymore of that, I'll
let you know next week. But I think we are
done for today. Unless you platforms it on Apple Plus.
I need to get that one. Yeah, I'll buy yourself
an iPhone they throw on free. Yeah, iPhone, I've got one.
You probably won't get it for free when you if
you buy a new phone, then I don't pay for
(26:27):
it like a normal person. Normal you, really, what happened
to bumping and rubbing and grinding Adam Jansen Next week
Days of thunder, Bye bye
Speaker 3 (26:45):
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