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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Super Serious Sports Show with Chris Coleman and Adam Jansen. AJ.
I promised you that we would catch all the excitement
and what the vibe is like in New Zealand. You
looked like you doubted me, my friend. You looked like
you didn't believe I could do this.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I never believe you can do what you say you're
going to do.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Well.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
In that case, we're just going to dive straight into it.
From Radio New Zealand based not only based in Auckland,
but a former camera resident, a guy I've done more
hours of radio with that I care to mention over
the years. Craig Norenberg's Welcome to the Super Serious Sports Show.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
What a privilege it is to be joining you from
across the Tasman, from across the ditch.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
My voice coming to yours.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
A fellow Camber Raiders fan now stuck in New Zealand,
but truly enjoying the build up to what I think
we might turn into a great night for the New
Zealand Warriors.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Now, what is the mood like? I mean, you lived
in camera through eighty nine and ninety Yeah, I think
you'd taken off overseas for ninety.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Four no, no no.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
I was working for Capitol Television ninety four and reported
on the ninety four Grand Final from the Mawson Leagues Club.
I had to do crosses to Channel ten in Brisbane,
Sydney and Canberra, so it was a big nice at
the Mawson Club.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
So I was firmly there. And the other story was
when they won.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I had one job to do that Peter Chapman, who
was head of Sport then gave me, and that was
to get an interview with Reuben. Wiki couldn't get it.
I spent the whole week chasing Ruben. Never got him,
but a couple of years ago when I worked for
Sky Sport here in New Zealand, I finally got him
because he runs a gym here and I told him
the story and he apologized and said he was very quiet,
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as you know, very reserved young man. Didn't want to
do interviews with media back then. But I finally got
him about three years ago.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I remember there was that contract saga with Reuben where
he was at the Raiders, but he also signed a
contract with the Warriors, but wanted to stay with the Raiders.
But then, as we all know, he ended up playing
for the Warriors anyway.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Yeah, and he was playing in the centers then too
before he moved into the forwards.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Boy, what terrifying ford he was.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
He could be one of the nicest rugby league men
that I have met, and I'm sure Chris has made
a few as well.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
And he met Reuben Wickie as well.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
What a lovely bloke and an absolute legend on both
sides of the Tasman.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
During when he retired and the entire Warriors team all
grew beards because Reuben had the beard. So the whole
side took to the field in that final with everyone
had a beard.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
He had that kind of beard that he was a
bit of a sex symple beard, you know when like
he because he's obviously built like a break train. But
there are some people who grow a bid and that
looks good. Chris or I grow beards, Not sure if
it looks too good. Ruben's a guy that looks like
he should be wearing a bed you know who.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
He looks like.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
He looks like Sylvester Stallone in Rocky five when he
goes into the with that Rocky four when he's going
to fight Ivan Drago and he heads into the snow
and he glows a beard.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
That's what he look like. Let's get to the serious stuff, Craig.
First of all, I really want to know the comparison
you've been through the excitement in Canberra as a one
team town going into a Grand Final. How does this
now that the Wise have made it through to the
last four, How does this week compare to that? Because
from over here it seems like Auckland certainly, but New
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Zealand more generally is actually going berserk for it.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Going off like a firecracker.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
There was a slow build through the season because I
don't think the fans could believe how well they were
doing last year. Of course, they finished near the bottom
of tape fifteenth if I do remember correctly, and everyone
had written them off, including most of the fans.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
And the fans are pretty durable.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
They've seen some pretty low lows with the Warriors new
coach coming in, Andrew Webster, nobody knew much about him.
They didn't hadn't really opened up the purse strings. Probably
their highest profile signing was Niko Klockstad. You know, you
had Sean Johnson nobody expected anything from so it was
a slow build for them right through the season. They
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made the top four, lose to penwith in the first week.
They've kind of most of the Warrior supporters watched that
and went, well, pen It's a great side.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
There's no shame in losing to the Panthers.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Many might have gone into last week's match thinking, look,
we'll just go along and the expectation is that Newcastle
will put up a fight, but to win forty points
to ten and as good as the crowd was last week,
and I'm sure you saw how amazing it was that
up the Wars and everyone getting into it this week
in particular, Wow, what a build up.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Everyone is talking about the Warriors.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
My son's school had a special Warriors day to day,
so he Warriors Jersey.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
People are yelling at each.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Other in the street, up the Wars and it kind
of coincides with an off week for the All Blacks
at the Rugby World Cup, which means the gap is
well and truly being filled by support for the Warriors.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Is there a.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Connection between any of the Raiders. I think it's more
like the vibe that I could pick up in twenty
nineteen for the Raiders that kind of you know, they
stuck in and they kind of build up was built
up as well, and they had who was at first
Storm and then then Souths to go through to the
Grand Final. That's why I just got this feeling against
the Broncos this weekend that the football gods are going
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to shine on the Warriors and they're going to repay
their long suffering supporters and they're going to beat the
Broncos because the vibe in the street in Auckland pretty
much even talking to people in the South is on
and we're rugby Union's king.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
They're getting behind them as well.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
So at the moment and you hope fingers crossed the
NRL have got the message, come on, let's push rugby
league in New Zealand and really take it to the
next level. And if they made the Grand Final next week,
as late as it is at night, it is absolutely
I'm really going to enjoy it if they make it.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Now, for every believer, there is a doubter. Chris Coleman
is the believer of the Warres on this show, mate.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
I got it on weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I'm the doubter he's and you're the yang. Convince me,
both of you. Convince me why the Warriors can beat
the Broncos this weekend. Have you seen the Broncos play
on You have Chris Coleman. They got a guy playing
fullback that the Warriors might be a little bit familiar with,
young man named.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
That's why that's why it's written Reese Walsh leaves the
Warriors to go home, and I'm not sure what you
think about the number of NRL players from Queensland who
get homesick all of a sudden familiar with.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Alford Path.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
So it's written in the stars Rees Walsh goes to
the Broncos and that's why they're going to lose, because
there is the Raider's interest of course with diickle clock
stat and that's why all Raiders should be supporting the
Warriors this weekend. But it's also and having worked and
previously produced Warriors TV for Sky Sport, here the Warriors
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are a genuinely nice bunch of blokes, really easy to
work with, just a real good bunch of blokes who
like hanging around the public. You know, remember the old
days when when footy players had a job as a butcher,
a baker, a candlestick maker and you could see them.
That's kind of the viberegetting from the Warriors at the moment,
and you get from the Broncos really come on a
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bunch of that for the record.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
For the record, I'm hoping, hoping that the Warriors win,
but I'm not convinced as convinced as as you are,
Chris Common, that they're going to When was the long
it is.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Put out there? When was the last time in rugby
league we had a real fairy tale and it got
all the way to the end. Twenty nineteen was pretty
close for camera North Queensland when they beat the Broncos again,
it was pretty close, but that North Queensland side was stacked.
I just love that. I think you've got to go
back to nineteen eighty nine almost or maybe the West
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Tigers when they won it. So you're talking it's a
long time Where Due and Craig mentioned CNK, I would
put him up there as every bit as nice as
Reuben Wiki, if not more so.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
You know, I made the mistake earlier in the year.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I dared post on Twitter that I thought chanceacle clock
stat was a better cultural fit in terms of good
God for a team then Reese Walsh at the Broncos,
who might be a bit of a show Pony and
the Broncos supporters. Now, I'm not saying Twitter occasionally people
might take the opportunity. I didn't block anyone. I thought,
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all right, I've posted it, I'll ride this out. I
should have been trending with the amount of amuse that
I caught by Broncos supporters.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
I'm going to dig it out and retweet that now.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Ah, and they did their research too, you know when
they get personal and they say to other Broncos supporters,
I've checked out this guy.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
He's a nobody. Thanks for calling me and nobody. Guys,
you're on.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
The super serious sports show, so you may have been
nobody once, but now you're still a nobody.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
I've made it yet.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Where will you be watching on the weekend, Craig, Will
you be at home? Or where will orclan be watching?
Will they be at home? Orill they set up live sites.
So they opened up Eaton Park so fifty thousand Wars
fans can all go and get together and get rotten.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Well they did it last week.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
They opened up Eden Park and the restaurants and bars
around it, so those that missed out on going to
Mount Smark go and watch it there.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
So it wasn't just the thirty thousand we saw at
Eden Park on the Mountsmint on the TV. There was
another x thousand over the way.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
And it was funny.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
One of the reporters rang up one of the restaurants
because it was being advertised as if you couldn't get
tickets to Mount Smart, go go go to go to
Mount Eden and you know, and watch the game at
Eden Park. And we rang up one of the restaurants
and the woman was not happy because they hadn't told
her to expect thousands.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
But and she said, I'm short stopped, and I'm like,
I don't care how you are at.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
At the moment there, So I don't know if they're
going to be doing that again. I'm I'm actually, I've
got tickets to go and see Tim Finn on Saturday night,
so I think i'll be out in time for the
second half, so I'll have to just drop into a
pub on the way home.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I'd give Tim Finn a miss for the for the Wars,
I'd be I'd be I'd be getting on the Warriors.
I'd i'd be tracking down the guy at Mount Smart
that does the shoey in front of the commentary box.
I'd be tracking down the guy that wears the joker
face paint all of them and I'd be gone for
a bee with those guys.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
They are passionate because rugby league supporters in New Zealand
copp it from rugby Union supporters and because the All
Blacks are so well. So I'm just hoping at the
moment that Rugby leagu could take advantage of this well.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
One advantage that the Warriors have got over the All
Blacks at the moment is that the Warriors are winning well.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Actually that's true, but although'll be All Blacks the next
games against Italy and like.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Should be close such cruising cruising through their group.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
So and rugby Union's bet on the nose this year
because the All Blacks aren't traveling as well as they
normally do and this is the perfect time for league
to pounds.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
The big problem with that is that even in Australia,
rugby Union still doing worse than it is in New Zealand. Mate,
I think AJ's got one more question. I've got one
more for you and then we'll let you get back
to work.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
It's not a question for the statement. So you look
at how good this Warrior's side is this year. So
let's say they do get knocked out on Saturday night.
You talk about rugby union, talk about the All Blacks,
and you talk about the Warriors. There's a pretty handy
footballer named Roger Tua Varsa Sheck who's going to rejoin
the Warriors next season. So this isn't just a one
and done season.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
For the Warriors. This could be a really good next
few year.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
And when Roger comes back, he is not going to
be put in at fullback and shifting nickel clock statuside,
they'll stick him in the centers. Who do you shift
out Rocco Berry or Adam Pompey. You're like Rocco, who
is a guy who came into the team. He from
a rugby union school, barely saw a game of league
before he came in. Hasn't he become a great rugby
league player? So maybe Roger will start on the on
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the bench. I can bring him on as a shop player. There,
you go, well win the.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Five eightes keep getting injured, so stick him in there.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Well that's actually true. Put a number six on his
back and put him next to Sean Johnson. What a
combination that'll be in the Harps.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
I just do us a favor.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Okay, if they're going to let anyone go, can you
just give the Raiders a call and say, hey, this
guy might be worth a chat. Because the Raiders recruitment
for next year's still looking pretty skinny.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
We could have done with Nicol clock fall back.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Give him what happened to the multitude of other fullbacks. Yeah,
we could have how much do the last win by?
And who do we keep an eye out for on
the weekend when we all get behind them because we
all hate Brisbane?
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Okay, I think Sean Johnson is going to have as
much latitude as you had last week against Newcastle where
he was just who could have won a dinner suit
and got away with it. So he's not going to
get that much. So someone else is going to have
to step up. Let's bring chance they wal clocks that
into it, chiming into the back line.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
But I think ah lah Papa in twenty.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Nineteen where he forced the Raiders into the Grand Final
in that we're scoring that fantastic try under the sign
just in front of the fifty thousand people that say
they were there at Bruce Stadium.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
CANbus the Stadium that night.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
You know, I'm thinking Adam Padua Blake's going to score
the match winner five minutes from time and the Warriors
are going to go through.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
We'll hold you to that.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Good on you create. Great to speak to you, mate,
and enjoy the next weas and maybe longer
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Simplify CPA