September 20, 2023 • 21 mins
On this episode, Chris Coleman and Adam Jansen preview the Preliminary Finals of the AFL, NRL and NRLW, pay tribute the late Ron Barassi, and take a look at the recent failures of various Australian sporting teams.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Super Serious Sports Show with Chris Coleman at Adam Jansen.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Adam Jansen a double podcast week of the Super Serious
Sports Show. For people who want to listen to a
rugby league chat and all about the Warriors, they'll find
the other one. What's on this edition that we really
want to talk people about?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
For me, it's all footy finals. If you want to
talk to me about anything else, you're going to be
severely disappointed today because I just want to talk NRL
AFL and the NRLW Finals.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
We do have a couple other things to throw in,
but we'll get to those on this edition of The
Super Serious Sports Show. We'll get to talking about the
NRL Finals in a little bit more depth in a
few minutes. But let's go to the other code where
the AFL, I reckon AJ would be just about wetting
itself right now. At the prospect of Carlton versus Collingwood
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in a Grand Final.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Would they be something else? At the thought of GWS
versus Brisbane, Mate, I love that you would. You're a
GWS supporter. I want the Chris Coleman on Grand Final Day,
I want the Giants and the Blues.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
But you seem to have this thought, this erroneous impression
that I would be sitting there feeling that I couldn't
possibly lose if it was the GWS Giants.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
No, no, no, I know how much you hate Carlton
Cartler in the Book of Feuds, Remember.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Mate, if it was to be the if it was
to be the GWS Giants versus Carlton, it would be
It would be the most awesome way for me, as
a former Carlton now GWS man for ten years or so,
to see the Giants win their first premiership. And can
I just say the Giants, it's mathematical progression time for them? Okay.
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They've played three preliminary finals, all right. This weekend they
played their fourth preliminary final. They're one from three. They're
one from three. They'll go two from four, because that's
how it works. The following week they'll be in the
Grand Final. That's how it works. Shut up, this is
my theory. The following week they were then me in
the grand final. It will be their second Grand Final.
They always say you've got to lose one to win one.
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They'll win it because that way they'll be one from two.
They'll be one Premiership from two grand finals from four
preliminary finals. That's how it's going to work. That's why
the Giants are going to be on top and will
possibly lift what maybe wind up being called the Ronald
Barrassi Premiership Cup.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
So the last time GWS made a Grand Final, Yeah,
they kicked the first goal.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Do you remember that? That game didn't exist. That game
never happened. They kicked two more. No, No, that game
never happened.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
In the next ninety six minutes or so of footy.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
That game never happened. No, it happened. It did not.
It happened.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
It did not, same as the Swan's Grand Final happened
last year.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
That was that was rough.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
They didn't kick the first goal anyway, anyway. But who
do you actually think is going to win this week?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I think I think GWS as specials. And I'm not
just saying that because I bleed orange for them on
match day. I just momentum. I think momentum is a
thing I was reading this morning that prior to this year,
it's seventy eight years since a side that was as
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low on the table has made it through to the
Grand Final, also has made it through to a preliminary
final and the odds are good. Like there's a Melbourne
side in the late nineteen forties, as a North Melbourne
side in the nineteen seventies that were all low on
the ladder late in the season and went on charges
and they've all either made it to the Grand Final
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or won the premiership. Momentum is a huge thing. The
fact that this year we've got two sides doing it
is historically amazing.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
The dream Grand Final for the AFL is Collingwood versus Carlton.
Oh god, yeah, I think GWS are a far bigger
chance of beating Collingwood than Carlton are of beating Brisbane.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Would you agree? I think you're right there.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Carlton have won both their games by in the finals.
Both the games of the finals by small margins. Okay,
a goal or less.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Eventually your luck runs out.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, GWS have won both their games comfortably. So my
theory is that Carlton have already played two Grand finals.
They don't have a third in them. I think Brisbane
are absolutely going smoke them and I think GWS will
get a narrow victory over Collingwood, maybe a goal or
two in a potentially low scoring game. I think that
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the AFL dream is about to become a nightmare. I
think it's going to be a Giants Lions Grand Final.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Right double dip into the world of rugby league. The
NRL Finals are on, the NRLW Finals are on. It's
down to four in each. What most excites you about
this coming weekend.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
The NRLW Finals And I say that because the NRL
Finals I think there's a red hot chance of them
both being blowouts. I think Penrith will beat Melbourne and
I think the Broncos will do a number on the Warriors. Unfortunately.
I think the Warriors luck will run out this weekend.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Melbourne.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I really liked Melbourne a few weeks ago and then
Ryan pappenhausen Broki's league and now I just they limped
over the line against the Roosters. They very nearly lost
that game. That game goes for seventy nine minutes, that
don't win. I just think Penrith and Brisbane they've been
the best two sides all year. They both got all
the guys there. I just think that's the most likely scenario.
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Whereas in the women's comp those top four teams, we
saw the Gold Coast Titans live and in person.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Get a coin toss it. They were outstanding.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Brisbane have been dynamite as well in the NRLW, and
Newcastle and the Roosters have both been fantastic all season.
I can't wait for the NRLW finals because I think
there's a real sense of any of the four teams
could win it.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I'm just super excited about this weekend. And I'm still
bullish on the Warriors, not just because I said it
about eight weeks ago that they were on a charge.
Did you take them in the tipping comp im? Not
sure yet. That's a question that will be determined probably
about five minutes before kickoff. Okay, so that's the decision.
There knows what I'm going for. Who are you going for?
I bet you want to know? Yeah, exactly, because you
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and I are on the same number of winners, and
if we go the same way in that game, it
makes it very very difficult to Yeah, I've got your
best four and against yeah you have. I guess they're
not doing margins anymore. And because I missed one tip
one game during the season that I didn't put a
tip in, give me a break.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
You also thought you'd tipped a certain team last week
accidently tipped. Tipped was a Brisbane against Melbourne or something
like that.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Well that wasn't so much accidentally, but I thought i'd
tip Melbourne, and then you.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Told me you tipped Melbourne. Look at the tipping gone
on Monday and I've made a going four from four.
Well how about that. Don't give me that I forgot
to put my tip in.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I can show you on here that it actually comes
up gray on the tipping thing, which says you forgot
to put your tip in because you're a bonehead.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, but you also stuffed up another tip, so it
evens out.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I didn't stuff it up. You did. I didn't stuff
it up. You thought you'd tip melbournebe and I got
it right. That's not stuffing it up. That's getting it right.
Give me a break.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
You're just you're just being petty and small petty. You
know what I'm being in front is what I'm being.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
You are being petty, That is what you are being anyway.
The other thing is that of all the sides that
have the complain about traveling and some one you never
hear the Warriors do it. They've got the traveling down
to a fine art, and I don't think that traveling
will worry them, that they've got to go the long journey,
et cetera.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Now you know that I've got a habit of seeing
headlines and articles but not reading the actual story. Right,
what's all this kerfuffle about the stadium stuff this week? Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
One of the shiny bumbas at Penrith has come out
and said that Brisbane gets a bigger advantage by playing
this game at their home ground than Penrith gets because
they've got to play at twenty k's down the road
at the Olympic Stadium. He knows the stormer from Victoria. Yeah,
yeah he does, but he's saying that Brisbane gets the
big home ground advantage there.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
That put a sixty thousand seat stadium at Penrith and
you won't have a problem exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Take some of the jillions of dollars that the Penrith
Panthers have fleeced from their local community in the Pokey's
over the past fifty or sixty years and actually build
a proper stadium. Build it yourselves out in western Sydney.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Do you know the first time I ever went to
the movies was at the Penrith Leagues Club. Really Yeah,
that a cinema there, don't if they still do?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Were you abandoned there while your babysitter went off and
played the pokey.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
So no, we watched Days of Thunder as a family. Okay,
I was the first movie over saw at cinemas And
did you go for a feed afterwards at one of
the voluminous restaurants that are probably I was like nine
or ten. I don't remember, and I just remember the movie.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Okay, I rest my case. The Panthers complex is massive.
It pulls in jillions of dollars. If you want to
play stadium games at home, then build a stadium. Don't
rely on the New South Ile's government. Don't sit there
and turn the money from the poker machines into something
else and inflict further misery on your community. Have we
said enough?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Have we got ourselves in trouble with the lawyers yet? Ah?
I just blame you every time. Okay, that's funny. I
blame you when they are the super serious sports show.
Aj The word legend is I think I've said this before,
banded around far too often in the world of sport,
but in the world of Australian football and indeed I
would go as far as Australian sport. The word legend
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does not do justice for Ronald Dale Barrassi Junior, who
passed away last weekend. The news coming through just before
the AFL Final between Port Adelaide and the Greater Western
Sydney Giants was to be played, and I was, along
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with many other people, quite emotional when I heard the news.
He was a giant of the game. I know that
you are younger than me, so probably don't have quite
the appreciation that I do of him.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, it's obviously plenty of awareness legend of the game
and all that sort of thing. But by the time
I was watching AFL, Ron Barrassi was the Swans coach.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, ninety five and three pretty ordinary years for the
Sydney Swans.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yes, but oh of course I know that there's a
lot more to Ron Barrassi.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I will come back around.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Than three unsuccessful seasons at the mighty Sidney Swans.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
So I will come back around to the Sydney Swans
and it'll give you a greater appreciation even of his
career from just that point. He was a six time
premiership player for Melbourne fifty five, fifty six, fifty seven,
fifty nine, sixty and sixty four, moved across to Carlton.
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Was the coach at Carlton for nineteen sixty eighth premiership,
for nineteen seventy premiership. Now that nineteen sixty eight premiership,
he dragged Carlton out of obscurity. They hadn't won a
flag since nineteen forty seven. Nineteen seventy Grand Final, they
were forty four points down at half time against Collingword.
He came in to the rooms and said, right, we're
going to change the game plan. We're going to handball,
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and handball and handball, and they handbled their way to
overcome a forty four point deficit in a Grand final
in front of one hundred and twenty one thousand, six
hundred and ninety six a number that still sticks in
my memory, jammed into the MCG. Almost one percent of
the entire Australian population was at that game. How they
get one hundred and twenty thousand into the MCG with
a massive crowbar And it wasn't all seating those days,
it was a standing and they jammed people in. He
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then went to North Melbourne and took them to their
first premiership in nineteen seventy five, backed it up again
in nineteen seventy seven. Was the first first man as
a coach to take advantage of change in ten year
rules that allowed you to recruit players or allowed players
more freedom after a next number of years and so on.
The Sydney Swans were going out backwards in the early
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nineteen nineties. He, as a man who had advocated the
AFL needed to or the VFL needed to expand beyond
a Melbourne suburban competition, was effectively asked by the AFL,
can you please go to Sydney. Can you please do
something to fix this club up? Otherwise it's going to
go out the back door and our national experiment will
be will be dead at its grave. He took over
for nineteen ninety three, nineteen ninety four ninety ninety five.
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He laid the groundwork for what became Rodney EAD's side.
In nineteen ninety six he appointed basically Rodney Eid as
his successor. He stayed on the board at the SCG.
How did Sydney go in nineteen ninety six? Aj I
went pretty well, yeah, exactly exactly. They've won flags multiple flags.
Since then, they've become a fixture in the Australian morning
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Laps sporting landscape. If it was not for Ron Barrassi
King the Sydney Swan successful in nineteen ninety almost from
nineteen ninety five, there would be no GWS Giants Today,
there would probably be no Gold Coast Sons because it
would have been if Sydney had fallen over, it would
have been Okay, we stopped the expansion. At this point,
we've got teams in Adelaide, we've got teams in Brisbane,
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in Perth, We've got one in Brisbane and one in Sydney.
He was a massive advocate for that. He was a
massive advocate advocate for international rules. I could go on
and on and on. I want to tell two stories.
I was lucky enough to interview him when I worked
at the ABC. And you've seen me interview people over
and over. You've never seen me nervous before an interview.
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Prior to this, I was an absolute quivering wreck because
I was about to interview a man who I had
revered through my life and the only thing I could do.
At the start of interview, before we started recording, I said,
I am very nervous about this, mister Barrassi, And that's
the esteem I held him in. I said, I'm interviewing
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one of my heroes. And it's always been said, you know,
when you interview your heroes, you've got to be weary
in case they have clay feet. He said, please call
me Ron. What's clay feet? Feet of clay? It's just
a it's a saying they turned out to not be
the best people that you thought. He said, please call me.
Oh no, that's happened. Yeah, yes, he said, please call
me Ron. And remember I put my feet through my pants,
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one leg at a time like everyone else. And at
that point we just had the most wonderful conversation and
he was just amazing. I don't remember what I asked him.
I don't remember what we spoke about. I just remember
at the end of it, just having enjoyed the conversation.
The other one is I go back to nineteen eighty two,
just after the mcg had unveiled the first video board,
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first color video board, at an Australian sports stadium. I
was there to watch a game as a kid between
Melbourne and Richmond. Because Carlton playing gets and killed and
my parents wouldn't let me go and watch Carlton play
at my rabin because they didn't want me to go
to my rabin because they didn't like this killer fans.
So I went to Yeah, I know, I went to
a Melbourne versus with the Carlton fans. Well, I was
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a Carlton supporter, so you know the Carlton crew. Yeah, exactly.
Caught a time Francis Burke, the coach of Richmond, walks
out from one race at the MCG. Ron Barrassi, the
coach of Melbourne, walks out of the other, and up
on the screen, up comes a picture of Francis Burke
walking out and along the bottom of the screen. I
remember it to this day. Good on your Francis scrolls
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along the bottom of the screen. No reaction from the crowd.
They cut to Ron Barrassi just as he gets to
the race. Good on Yourn. And there was I don't
know thirty thousand people at the MCG that day, and
I reckon twenty five thousand of them stood and applauded.
And that was the mark of the man. He was
just an incredible human being. I hope that the AFL
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do and I suggested this, as did a few people
on the night that he passed. The AFL Premiership Cup
does not have a name attached to it spells like
an opportunity, doesn't it. Mate. I can't think anything better
and I will brook no argument on this, the Ronald
Barrassi Premiership Cup. It just has a ring to it.
Bathus named the trophy the peterbrock Trophy within days of
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Brocky dying in what year was at twenty about two
thousand and six oh six, I think it was. Yeah.
I hope the AFL can get the engraver busy on
this year's trophy when it comes back from the tour
that it's on, and the night before the Grand Final
engrave the Ronald Dale Barrassi Premiership Cup on it, and
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I hope that that becomes a lasting tribute to a
man without whom there would not be the geographic spread
that we have had, and without whom there would not
be half the game that we have today. I apologize
for monopolizing the segment. I feel pretty strongly about it.
I'm still pretty saddened by it, and I hope that
it is done as a fitting tribute to a great man,
a term that is used far too loosely these days.
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I'm going to try and lift the mood just a
little bit now by talking about the glories of Australian
team sport, or at least aj I would if we
had some glories to talk about an Australian team sport.
The Australian cricket team. How good are they going? Go
to South Africa for a one day tournament to warm
up for the World Cup, win the first two games,
then lose the last three. They lost three. They lost three.
This is the first time in Australian cricket history. Now
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bear in mind one day cricket has been around now
for fifty two years at an international level. That is
the first time an Australian side has gone two nil
up in a best of five one day series and
lost three to two.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Oh, I didn't realize they'd lost three. They lost three
to South Africa. Which makes it somehow very good. No,
it makes it somethhingw worse.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
South Africa are now going to go to the World
Cup with their tails up and all the confidence in
the world, and then they'll lose an unlosable semi final.
But that's another story. The Australian run up team.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
South Africa will be none for three hundred chasing three
hundred and ten and they'll loose.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, they'll be They'll they'll miss, they'll mishit the last
ball into these stumps or something.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
To run, or they'll miscalculate a run rate or something.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Or one of them will explode and spontaneously combust. Something
will happen. However, I thought, oh, well, okay, we don't
worry about creet let's just take solace in rugby. Oh
my god, we lost to Fiji in the World Cup.
Australia has a loss to Fiji in my lifetime.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Matt Giddo told us they'd be good.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
They're not. No, they're not Australia and Australia will probably
not make it out of its pool at this stage.
They've got to play Wales. Wales are good. Wales are good.
I know that. Let's just repeat this.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Wales are good, Australia are not. Yeah, Wales are about
to have a whale of a good time.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
So I'm going to Now, I'm now going to and
I can't believe I have to do this to get
some solace in the world of Australian team sport. I
have to turn to tennis. Australia was in a World
Cup qualifying group. You didn't even know this was happening.
I'll be honest now that at I till I was
flicking through the channels late at night and suddenly Channel
nine was screening Australia versus France and the Davis Cup.
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We need to get you. Netley in Manchester made I
flick through channels and then I go to Netflix. If
I've been on Netflix, I wouldn't have seen this. Australia
versus France in a Davis Cup World group qualifier in Manchester, England,
in front of what looked like nineteen people. It's a
right now to be a linesman and an umpire and
ball boys and ball girls. So they were counted. Yeah,
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it was a four way thing, Australia, Great Britain, France
and Switzerland. Australia lost to Great Britain on the opening
night two to one. They then managed to scrape up
enough points against France that a clean sweep against Switzerland
would get them through to the next round. And then behold,
they've beaten Switzerland three. No, because Roger Federer is no
longer playing tennis, and so Australia's through the next round
of the World Cup. That is where I'm taking my
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solace in Australian team sport. Oh my god, I'm desperate.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
There's we're just going to change sports. We're going away
from international level. We're going to go international, but not
at an international level. There's a football team that you
owe an apology to. Oh why why? Why do I
owe them an apology? You owe the TOTTENHAMTSP football club,
your football club, Chris Coleman, an apology because you're always
saying how bad they are against bad opponents.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
What did they do on the weekend? They were at
the ninety eighth minute they were one nil down against
Sheffield United the Blade. Yes, as there are one nil down,
will I will give them cutos and I will say
thank you Ange for letting them score a ninety eighth
minute equalizer and a one hundredth minute go ahead goal,
the latest winning comeback in English Premier League history. I
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will applaud that until the Cows come home. I will
also at this point ajsay it is the twentieth of September.
They have played five games. Okay, if they are still
if they are still top two at Christmas, well they
won't be. I will apologize if they are still top
two at Christmas. There is nothing soft about that comeback. No,
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But in the grand scheme of things in February next year,
if they are third or fourth and no scope of
winning the title, nobody will remember it. Nobody will care
other than the trivia buffs. They nearly lost to the Blades.
I'm aware of this. They did show some guts, they
did come back at.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
The whatever that park they call it Tottenham Hotsburg Stadium.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Stadium, and that's think. It was a home game and
they nearly threw it away. Would they've rioted if they'd
lost to Sheffield? Probably not because in the end, Tottenham fans,
you know, we're used to it. Seriously. I talked about
how Australia had never lost a Fiji in rugby union
in my lifetime. Tottenham has never won a Premier League
or top flight English title. They' won FA Cups, they've
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won European things, but they've never won the league in
my lifetime. We're just used to it. We've gone way
over time, AJ. But that's what happens with this show. Yeah,
you've got a bit excited. I did, and I wanted
to pay a proper tribute to Ron Barrassi, and we
forgot to do one thing. Rondu Warrassi from the Super
Serious Sports Show, we still you. And on that note, Aj,
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I'll catch up with you for our huge RAN Final
preview show next week. You've got guests. We've got Rowan
Connolly coming on to talk about the af L, We've
got Andrew Voss coming on to talk about about Patty Carrigan.
You can do that, find that, find that and play
it because if I remember rightly, he said, I don't
see any way for pat Carrigan to score a try. No,
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we need to find it. Yeah, we need to find that.
I'll catch you next week.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Bye, Amplify CB
The Super Serious Sports Show with Chris Coleman at Adam Jansen.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Adam Jansen a double podcast week of the Super Serious
Sports Show. For people who want to listen to a
rugby league chat and all about the Warriors, they'll find
the other one. What's on this edition that we really
want to talk people about?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
For me, it's all footy finals. If you want to
talk to me about anything else, you're going to be
severely disappointed today because I just want to talk NRL
AFL and the NRLW Finals.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
We do have a couple other things to throw in,
but we'll get to those on this edition of The
Super Serious Sports Show. We'll get to talking about the
NRL Finals in a little bit more depth in a
few minutes. But let's go to the other code where
the AFL, I reckon AJ would be just about wetting
itself right now. At the prospect of Carlton versus Collingwood
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in a Grand Final.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Would they be something else? At the thought of GWS
versus Brisbane, Mate, I love that you would. You're a
GWS supporter. I want the Chris Coleman on Grand Final Day,
I want the Giants and the Blues.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
But you seem to have this thought, this erroneous impression
that I would be sitting there feeling that I couldn't
possibly lose if it was the GWS Giants.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
No, no, no, I know how much you hate Carlton
Cartler in the Book of Feuds, Remember.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Mate, if it was to be the if it was
to be the GWS Giants versus Carlton, it would be
It would be the most awesome way for me, as
a former Carlton now GWS man for ten years or so,
to see the Giants win their first premiership. And can
I just say the Giants, it's mathematical progression time for them? Okay.
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They've played three preliminary finals, all right. This weekend they
played their fourth preliminary final. They're one from three. They're
one from three. They'll go two from four, because that's
how it works. The following week they'll be in the
Grand Final. That's how it works. Shut up, this is
my theory. The following week they were then me in
the grand final. It will be their second Grand Final.
They always say you've got to lose one to win one.
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They'll win it because that way they'll be one from two.
They'll be one Premiership from two grand finals from four
preliminary finals. That's how it's going to work. That's why
the Giants are going to be on top and will
possibly lift what maybe wind up being called the Ronald
Barrassi Premiership Cup.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
So the last time GWS made a Grand Final, Yeah,
they kicked the first goal.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Do you remember that? That game didn't exist. That game
never happened. They kicked two more. No, No, that game
never happened.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
In the next ninety six minutes or so of footy.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
That game never happened. No, it happened. It did not.
It happened.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
It did not, same as the Swan's Grand Final happened
last year.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
That was that was rough.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
They didn't kick the first goal anyway, anyway. But who
do you actually think is going to win this week?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I think I think GWS as specials. And I'm not
just saying that because I bleed orange for them on
match day. I just momentum. I think momentum is a
thing I was reading this morning that prior to this year,
it's seventy eight years since a side that was as
(02:59):
low on the table has made it through to the
Grand Final, also has made it through to a preliminary
final and the odds are good. Like there's a Melbourne
side in the late nineteen forties, as a North Melbourne
side in the nineteen seventies that were all low on
the ladder late in the season and went on charges
and they've all either made it to the Grand Final
(03:19):
or won the premiership. Momentum is a huge thing. The
fact that this year we've got two sides doing it
is historically amazing.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
The dream Grand Final for the AFL is Collingwood versus Carlton.
Oh god, yeah, I think GWS are a far bigger
chance of beating Collingwood than Carlton are of beating Brisbane.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Would you agree? I think you're right there.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Carlton have won both their games by in the finals.
Both the games of the finals by small margins. Okay,
a goal or less.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Eventually your luck runs out.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, GWS have won both their games comfortably. So my
theory is that Carlton have already played two Grand finals.
They don't have a third in them. I think Brisbane
are absolutely going smoke them and I think GWS will
get a narrow victory over Collingwood, maybe a goal or
two in a potentially low scoring game. I think that
(04:09):
the AFL dream is about to become a nightmare. I
think it's going to be a Giants Lions Grand Final.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Right double dip into the world of rugby league. The
NRL Finals are on, the NRLW Finals are on. It's
down to four in each. What most excites you about
this coming weekend.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
The NRLW Finals And I say that because the NRL
Finals I think there's a red hot chance of them
both being blowouts. I think Penrith will beat Melbourne and
I think the Broncos will do a number on the Warriors. Unfortunately.
I think the Warriors luck will run out this weekend.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Melbourne.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I really liked Melbourne a few weeks ago and then
Ryan pappenhausen Broki's league and now I just they limped
over the line against the Roosters. They very nearly lost
that game. That game goes for seventy nine minutes, that
don't win. I just think Penrith and Brisbane they've been
the best two sides all year. They both got all
the guys there. I just think that's the most likely scenario.
(05:08):
Whereas in the women's comp those top four teams, we
saw the Gold Coast Titans live and in person.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Get a coin toss it. They were outstanding.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Brisbane have been dynamite as well in the NRLW, and
Newcastle and the Roosters have both been fantastic all season.
I can't wait for the NRLW finals because I think
there's a real sense of any of the four teams
could win it.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I'm just super excited about this weekend. And I'm still
bullish on the Warriors, not just because I said it
about eight weeks ago that they were on a charge.
Did you take them in the tipping comp im? Not
sure yet. That's a question that will be determined probably
about five minutes before kickoff. Okay, so that's the decision.
There knows what I'm going for. Who are you going for?
I bet you want to know? Yeah, exactly, because you
(05:49):
and I are on the same number of winners, and
if we go the same way in that game, it
makes it very very difficult to Yeah, I've got your
best four and against yeah you have. I guess they're
not doing margins anymore. And because I missed one tip
one game during the season that I didn't put a
tip in, give me a break.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
You also thought you'd tipped a certain team last week
accidently tipped. Tipped was a Brisbane against Melbourne or something
like that.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Well that wasn't so much accidentally, but I thought i'd
tip Melbourne, and then you.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Told me you tipped Melbourne. Look at the tipping gone
on Monday and I've made a going four from four.
Well how about that. Don't give me that I forgot
to put my tip in.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I can show you on here that it actually comes
up gray on the tipping thing, which says you forgot
to put your tip in because you're a bonehead.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, but you also stuffed up another tip, so it
evens out.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I didn't stuff it up. You did. I didn't stuff
it up. You thought you'd tip melbournebe and I got
it right. That's not stuffing it up. That's getting it right.
Give me a break.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
You're just you're just being petty and small petty. You
know what I'm being in front is what I'm being.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
You are being petty, That is what you are being anyway.
The other thing is that of all the sides that
have the complain about traveling and some one you never
hear the Warriors do it. They've got the traveling down
to a fine art, and I don't think that traveling
will worry them, that they've got to go the long journey,
et cetera.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Now you know that I've got a habit of seeing
headlines and articles but not reading the actual story. Right,
what's all this kerfuffle about the stadium stuff this week? Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
One of the shiny bumbas at Penrith has come out
and said that Brisbane gets a bigger advantage by playing
this game at their home ground than Penrith gets because
they've got to play at twenty k's down the road
at the Olympic Stadium. He knows the stormer from Victoria. Yeah,
yeah he does, but he's saying that Brisbane gets the
big home ground advantage there.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
That put a sixty thousand seat stadium at Penrith and
you won't have a problem exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Take some of the jillions of dollars that the Penrith
Panthers have fleeced from their local community in the Pokey's
over the past fifty or sixty years and actually build
a proper stadium. Build it yourselves out in western Sydney.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Do you know the first time I ever went to
the movies was at the Penrith Leagues Club. Really Yeah,
that a cinema there, don't if they still do?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Were you abandoned there while your babysitter went off and
played the pokey.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
So no, we watched Days of Thunder as a family. Okay,
I was the first movie over saw at cinemas And
did you go for a feed afterwards at one of
the voluminous restaurants that are probably I was like nine
or ten. I don't remember, and I just remember the movie.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Okay, I rest my case. The Panthers complex is massive.
It pulls in jillions of dollars. If you want to
play stadium games at home, then build a stadium. Don't
rely on the New South Ile's government. Don't sit there
and turn the money from the poker machines into something
else and inflict further misery on your community. Have we
said enough?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Have we got ourselves in trouble with the lawyers yet? Ah?
I just blame you every time. Okay, that's funny. I
blame you when they are the super serious sports show.
Aj The word legend is I think I've said this before,
banded around far too often in the world of sport,
but in the world of Australian football and indeed I
would go as far as Australian sport. The word legend
(08:48):
does not do justice for Ronald Dale Barrassi Junior, who
passed away last weekend. The news coming through just before
the AFL Final between Port Adelaide and the Greater Western
Sydney Giants was to be played, and I was, along
(09:09):
with many other people, quite emotional when I heard the news.
He was a giant of the game. I know that
you are younger than me, so probably don't have quite
the appreciation that I do of him.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, it's obviously plenty of awareness legend of the game
and all that sort of thing. But by the time
I was watching AFL, Ron Barrassi was the Swans coach.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, ninety five and three pretty ordinary years for the
Sydney Swans.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yes, but oh of course I know that there's a
lot more to Ron Barrassi.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I will come back around.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Than three unsuccessful seasons at the mighty Sidney Swans.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
So I will come back around to the Sydney Swans
and it'll give you a greater appreciation even of his
career from just that point. He was a six time
premiership player for Melbourne fifty five, fifty six, fifty seven,
fifty nine, sixty and sixty four, moved across to Carlton.
(10:10):
Was the coach at Carlton for nineteen sixty eighth premiership,
for nineteen seventy premiership. Now that nineteen sixty eight premiership,
he dragged Carlton out of obscurity. They hadn't won a
flag since nineteen forty seven. Nineteen seventy Grand Final, they
were forty four points down at half time against Collingword.
He came in to the rooms and said, right, we're
going to change the game plan. We're going to handball,
(10:30):
and handball and handball, and they handbled their way to
overcome a forty four point deficit in a Grand final
in front of one hundred and twenty one thousand, six
hundred and ninety six a number that still sticks in
my memory, jammed into the MCG. Almost one percent of
the entire Australian population was at that game. How they
get one hundred and twenty thousand into the MCG with
a massive crowbar And it wasn't all seating those days,
it was a standing and they jammed people in. He
(10:53):
then went to North Melbourne and took them to their
first premiership in nineteen seventy five, backed it up again
in nineteen seventy seven. Was the first first man as
a coach to take advantage of change in ten year
rules that allowed you to recruit players or allowed players
more freedom after a next number of years and so on.
The Sydney Swans were going out backwards in the early
(11:14):
nineteen nineties. He, as a man who had advocated the
AFL needed to or the VFL needed to expand beyond
a Melbourne suburban competition, was effectively asked by the AFL,
can you please go to Sydney. Can you please do
something to fix this club up? Otherwise it's going to
go out the back door and our national experiment will
be will be dead at its grave. He took over
for nineteen ninety three, nineteen ninety four ninety ninety five.
(11:36):
He laid the groundwork for what became Rodney EAD's side.
In nineteen ninety six he appointed basically Rodney Eid as
his successor. He stayed on the board at the SCG.
How did Sydney go in nineteen ninety six? Aj I
went pretty well, yeah, exactly exactly. They've won flags multiple flags.
Since then, they've become a fixture in the Australian morning
(11:56):
Laps sporting landscape. If it was not for Ron Barrassi
King the Sydney Swan successful in nineteen ninety almost from
nineteen ninety five, there would be no GWS Giants Today,
there would probably be no Gold Coast Sons because it
would have been if Sydney had fallen over, it would
have been Okay, we stopped the expansion. At this point,
we've got teams in Adelaide, we've got teams in Brisbane,
(12:19):
in Perth, We've got one in Brisbane and one in Sydney.
He was a massive advocate for that. He was a
massive advocate advocate for international rules. I could go on
and on and on. I want to tell two stories.
I was lucky enough to interview him when I worked
at the ABC. And you've seen me interview people over
and over. You've never seen me nervous before an interview.
(12:40):
Prior to this, I was an absolute quivering wreck because
I was about to interview a man who I had
revered through my life and the only thing I could do.
At the start of interview, before we started recording, I said,
I am very nervous about this, mister Barrassi, And that's
the esteem I held him in. I said, I'm interviewing
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one of my heroes. And it's always been said, you know,
when you interview your heroes, you've got to be weary
in case they have clay feet. He said, please call
me Ron. What's clay feet? Feet of clay? It's just
a it's a saying they turned out to not be
the best people that you thought. He said, please call me.
Oh no, that's happened. Yeah, yes, he said, please call
me Ron. And remember I put my feet through my pants,
(13:23):
one leg at a time like everyone else. And at
that point we just had the most wonderful conversation and
he was just amazing. I don't remember what I asked him.
I don't remember what we spoke about. I just remember
at the end of it, just having enjoyed the conversation.
The other one is I go back to nineteen eighty two,
just after the mcg had unveiled the first video board,
(13:46):
first color video board, at an Australian sports stadium. I
was there to watch a game as a kid between
Melbourne and Richmond. Because Carlton playing gets and killed and
my parents wouldn't let me go and watch Carlton play
at my rabin because they didn't want me to go
to my rabin because they didn't like this killer fans.
So I went to Yeah, I know, I went to
a Melbourne versus with the Carlton fans. Well, I was
(14:08):
a Carlton supporter, so you know the Carlton crew. Yeah, exactly.
Caught a time Francis Burke, the coach of Richmond, walks
out from one race at the MCG. Ron Barrassi, the
coach of Melbourne, walks out of the other, and up
on the screen, up comes a picture of Francis Burke
walking out and along the bottom of the screen. I
remember it to this day. Good on your Francis scrolls
(14:30):
along the bottom of the screen. No reaction from the crowd.
They cut to Ron Barrassi just as he gets to
the race. Good on Yourn. And there was I don't
know thirty thousand people at the MCG that day, and
I reckon twenty five thousand of them stood and applauded.
And that was the mark of the man. He was
just an incredible human being. I hope that the AFL
(14:51):
do and I suggested this, as did a few people
on the night that he passed. The AFL Premiership Cup
does not have a name attached to it spells like
an opportunity, doesn't it. Mate. I can't think anything better
and I will brook no argument on this, the Ronald
Barrassi Premiership Cup. It just has a ring to it.
Bathus named the trophy the peterbrock Trophy within days of
(15:13):
Brocky dying in what year was at twenty about two
thousand and six oh six, I think it was. Yeah.
I hope the AFL can get the engraver busy on
this year's trophy when it comes back from the tour
that it's on, and the night before the Grand Final
engrave the Ronald Dale Barrassi Premiership Cup on it, and
(15:34):
I hope that that becomes a lasting tribute to a
man without whom there would not be the geographic spread
that we have had, and without whom there would not
be half the game that we have today. I apologize
for monopolizing the segment. I feel pretty strongly about it.
I'm still pretty saddened by it, and I hope that
it is done as a fitting tribute to a great man,
a term that is used far too loosely these days.
(15:57):
I'm going to try and lift the mood just a
little bit now by talking about the glories of Australian
team sport, or at least aj I would if we
had some glories to talk about an Australian team sport.
The Australian cricket team. How good are they going? Go
to South Africa for a one day tournament to warm
up for the World Cup, win the first two games,
then lose the last three. They lost three. They lost three.
This is the first time in Australian cricket history. Now
(16:18):
bear in mind one day cricket has been around now
for fifty two years at an international level. That is
the first time an Australian side has gone two nil
up in a best of five one day series and
lost three to two.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Oh, I didn't realize they'd lost three. They lost three
to South Africa. Which makes it somehow very good. No,
it makes it somethhingw worse.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
South Africa are now going to go to the World
Cup with their tails up and all the confidence in
the world, and then they'll lose an unlosable semi final.
But that's another story. The Australian run up team.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
South Africa will be none for three hundred chasing three
hundred and ten and they'll loose.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, they'll be They'll they'll miss, they'll mishit the last
ball into these stumps or something.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
To run, or they'll miscalculate a run rate or something.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Or one of them will explode and spontaneously combust. Something
will happen. However, I thought, oh, well, okay, we don't
worry about creet let's just take solace in rugby. Oh
my god, we lost to Fiji in the World Cup.
Australia has a loss to Fiji in my lifetime.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Matt Giddo told us they'd be good.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
They're not. No, they're not Australia and Australia will probably
not make it out of its pool at this stage.
They've got to play Wales. Wales are good. Wales are good.
I know that. Let's just repeat this.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Wales are good, Australia are not. Yeah, Wales are about
to have a whale of a good time.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
So I'm going to Now, I'm now going to and
I can't believe I have to do this to get
some solace in the world of Australian team sport. I
have to turn to tennis. Australia was in a World
Cup qualifying group. You didn't even know this was happening.
I'll be honest now that at I till I was
flicking through the channels late at night and suddenly Channel
nine was screening Australia versus France and the Davis Cup.
(17:59):
We need to get you. Netley in Manchester made I
flick through channels and then I go to Netflix. If
I've been on Netflix, I wouldn't have seen this. Australia
versus France in a Davis Cup World group qualifier in Manchester, England,
in front of what looked like nineteen people. It's a
right now to be a linesman and an umpire and
ball boys and ball girls. So they were counted. Yeah,
(18:20):
it was a four way thing, Australia, Great Britain, France
and Switzerland. Australia lost to Great Britain on the opening
night two to one. They then managed to scrape up
enough points against France that a clean sweep against Switzerland
would get them through to the next round. And then behold,
they've beaten Switzerland three. No, because Roger Federer is no
longer playing tennis, and so Australia's through the next round
of the World Cup. That is where I'm taking my
(18:41):
solace in Australian team sport. Oh my god, I'm desperate.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
There's we're just going to change sports. We're going away
from international level. We're going to go international, but not
at an international level. There's a football team that you
owe an apology to. Oh why why? Why do I
owe them an apology? You owe the TOTTENHAMTSP football club,
your football club, Chris Coleman, an apology because you're always
saying how bad they are against bad opponents.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
What did they do on the weekend? They were at
the ninety eighth minute they were one nil down against
Sheffield United the Blade. Yes, as there are one nil down,
will I will give them cutos and I will say
thank you Ange for letting them score a ninety eighth
minute equalizer and a one hundredth minute go ahead goal,
the latest winning comeback in English Premier League history. I
(19:32):
will applaud that until the Cows come home. I will
also at this point ajsay it is the twentieth of September.
They have played five games. Okay, if they are still
if they are still top two at Christmas, well they
won't be. I will apologize if they are still top
two at Christmas. There is nothing soft about that comeback. No,
(19:54):
But in the grand scheme of things in February next year,
if they are third or fourth and no scope of
winning the title, nobody will remember it. Nobody will care
other than the trivia buffs. They nearly lost to the Blades.
I'm aware of this. They did show some guts, they
did come back at.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
The whatever that park they call it Tottenham Hotsburg Stadium.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Stadium, and that's think. It was a home game and
they nearly threw it away. Would they've rioted if they'd
lost to Sheffield? Probably not because in the end, Tottenham fans,
you know, we're used to it. Seriously. I talked about
how Australia had never lost a Fiji in rugby union
in my lifetime. Tottenham has never won a Premier League
or top flight English title. They' won FA Cups, they've
(20:37):
won European things, but they've never won the league in
my lifetime. We're just used to it. We've gone way
over time, AJ. But that's what happens with this show. Yeah,
you've got a bit excited. I did, and I wanted
to pay a proper tribute to Ron Barrassi, and we
forgot to do one thing. Rondu Warrassi from the Super
Serious Sports Show, we still you. And on that note, Aj,
(20:58):
I'll catch up with you for our huge RAN Final
preview show next week. You've got guests. We've got Rowan
Connolly coming on to talk about the af L, We've
got Andrew Voss coming on to talk about about Patty Carrigan.
You can do that, find that, find that and play
it because if I remember rightly, he said, I don't
see any way for pat Carrigan to score a try. No,
(21:20):
we need to find it. Yeah, we need to find that.
I'll catch you next week.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Bye, Amplify CB
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