September 6, 2023 • 21 mins
On this episode, Chris Coleman and Adam Jansen discuss the performance of the Boomers at the FIBA World Cup, the NRL Finals, Fulham's lackluster performance in the EPL, before previewing the upcoming NFL season!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Super Serious Sports Show with Chris Carman and Adam Jansen.
Adam Jansen, it's that time of week once again when
we get together and talk about sport. What's caught your eye?
Because there's an awful lot going.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
On the AFL Finals. We spoke about them on the
show last week. They're almost finally here. So the round
kicks off with Melbourne versus Collingwood tomorrow night and then
the Swans have their upset against Carlton on Friday night.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
You know what really annoys me about the buye for
the AFL is that for the last week and a
half we've basically had nothing in the AFL men's competition
and it really is a momentum killer.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Well, the AFL w's been on, yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
But it's a momentum killer for the men's competition. Anyway,
we're not talking about AFL this week. What are we
talking about on this show?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
We're not going to talk about football because there wasn't
any is.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Conceding five goals bad? Or is scoring five goals good?
I think it's fabulous.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Anyway, depends on you scored against the NFL starts this week?
Oh excellent?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yes, all right, So we'll get the NFL on and
we have World Cup feet about to launch into us
as well. We'll talk about that in just a moment
here on the Super Serious Sports Show. It's not just
the Rugby Union World Cup that is capturing people's attention
at the moment. The Basketball World Cup, well, it's capturing
some people's attention. I think a lot of Bossie fans
have probably turned away from it. And the Cricket World
Cup squad has been named, what do you want to
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look at first? I want to get in here. I
want to get in here. I think the Australian Boomer's
performance underwhelming at the Basketball World Cup. They were going
over there talking about potential medals. They haven't even made
the last eight. If this was the Wallabies at a
World Cup like happened a few years ago, there would
be people calling for heads rolling.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Is that going to happen in basketball? No? I I
think them just basically saying they were going to meddle
I think was a little bit ambitious. The German side that.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
They medled two years ago at Tokyo at the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
They lost to Germany and Slovenia, who were both very good.
Slovenia have one of the best players in the world
in Luka Doncic. And Germany have got a number of
NBA players, including the Wagner brothers, who were both outstanding.
But they knew they were going to be playing Germany
before the tournament. Well maybe they just mid read their
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own their own ability. I don't know. This Australian side
will be a lot better in four more years, when
Josh Giddy's had another four years and these other young
guys like Josh Green have had another four four years
and Dison Daniels. It's not a disaster. They won three
out of five. The three games that they won, they
won by a considerable margin. They lost the German game
by three points and they got beaten a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
So they beat they beat Finland, they beat Japan, and
they beat Georgia. Is Finland a world power in basketball?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah? Finland have got Lowry Markinen from the Utah Jazz
who was an All Star this year, so they've got one.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Japan's got Japan's got NBA players in their team, okay,
and Georgia.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I don't know about Georgia, okay, and how many NBA
players as Australia having its team Yeah, but they're not
star players from Wagner is one of the star up
and coming stars of the NBA. Did a pass mark
for the Bloomers. Yeah, I think it's a pass I
don't think it's anything above that. But I don't think
it's not the fail that everyone seems to think.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
It is a C minus at best. Let's move on
cricket because you watched so much basketball. Yeah, all the
talk before was Australia's going over to medal. Australia's going
over to Meddle didn't make the last eight, only just
scraped into the last Yes.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
This is just my thoughts. I don't think it was
the I don't think it was the complete disaster that
people think. It is an admitigated disaster, but it's certainly
not good enough. No, France was an unmitigated disaster with
a number of NBA players and didn't even make it
to the second round.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
On the bright side, we should say that Australia has
by doing better.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Than New Zealand, has qualified for the Olympics next year. Yeah. Good,
they should be beating news that Chris Coleman. That would
have been an unmitigated disaster. Once I put a sign
there was a song.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I don't care as long as we beat New Zealand,
so yep, that'll work quite nicely. Quick look at the
world of cricket. Because the Cricket World Cup is coming up.
Australia has named the Clayton Squad. In other words, they've
named a fifteen man squad that may I not be
the fifteen man squad by the time the World Cup
rolls around. I find the whole thing a little bit
on the waste of time ish, Is there anything that
excites you in there? I mean, Mitch marsh has suddenly
(04:05):
found a whole lease of life on this twenty twenty
two or in South Africa, So that's great. He's finally
shown good form in consecutive games, which has been a
long time for him.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, pretty good Ashes series. Yeah, he was up and down.
He was up, down and then up again. I think
so the three players the latest three players to be
cut from the squad Tan Via Sanger, Aaron Hardy and
Nathan Ellis. I think I don't know if any of
them really should have been there. I like the fact
that Sewan Abbot's in the team. I think Shawan Abbots
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got a lot of potential as a short form player,
of course, no, Martas Larbashane. He got cut from the
squad quite some time ago. But I think it's a
strong Australian squad. I haven't seen anything in there that
I am concerned about. All the usual suspects of there.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Ye, there's a lot of players in here who were
going to do well on what we are potentially going
to be low slow wickets in the subcontinent.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
It's a spin heavy team Ashton Ager Adam Zampa and
it's got David Warner and who's a flat track Willy
a little bit. Yeah, Now I like the squad. I
don't have anything. Nothing's jumped out at me as something
I don't like. All right, well, well World Cup is
coming up. I might change my mind if they do
have an unmitigated disaster.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
But yeah, that's entirely possible too when you're talking about
this Stralian cricket team anyway, that's coming up in a
few weeks time. On we go to the NRL Finals
Broncos v. Storm, Panthers v Warriors, Sharks v Roosters, Knights
v Raiders. Do you see an upset which one of
those four.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Games technically technically Melbourne beating Brisbane as an upset. It's
at sun Corps Stadium.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
The Broncos are as last I checked on the betting
markets favorites that game, which I find I think Melbourne ootageous.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I think Melbourne look out standing with Ryan Papenhausen in
their lineup.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I know that the Broncos rested plenty last week, but
the Storm rested a few last.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Week as well. Oh they rested plenty two.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, the Storm have beaten Brisbane. They've shown them the
rounds of the kitchen so far back that I can't
remember the last time Brisbane won a game against Melbourne
in Brisbane.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
There is not a player in the Broncos lineup who
has participated in a Brisbane side that has beaten Melbourne
at sun Corpse Stadium, so their own ground.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
So how do the Broncos go in as favorites. Is
it just Queensland as being dumb and throwing their money
at it.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
It's in Queensland and they did finish higher up the ladder,
But I think yeah, Melbourne with that late season addition
of Ryan Papenhausen successfully coming back from a horrendous injury, Yeah,
I really like Melbourne in that game. What do you
think about the Roosters Sharks game? That's pretty even money,
it's a toss of a coin.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
The Sharks still are yet to impress me, and I
know they've made the finals. They're not the only side
in the finals that has not impressed me, because the
Roosters are right up there. In fact that these outside
of teams one, two, three and four, none of the
sides there have really impressed me this year. So I
don't see a side from five to six, seven or
(07:01):
eight winning it. Those finals are.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Your castle have been good weekly. I can still see
the Raiders beating them this week.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Exactly, But I just don't see anything. If you think
anyone from outside the top four in all serious is
going to win it, you're kidding yourself.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I think the Roosters will beat Crineller. I just think
they're a better side. What do you make of playing
that final at Shark Park?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
It's the rules and are all determined ages ago that
that's how it's going to work. There was an outcry
when the Raiders were going to potentially have to play
a preliminary final in Sydney as a home game. At
one stage, you can't have the best of both worlds.
What it means is that the Sharks, instead of building
twenty five thousand unit blocks on their site, should maybe
have put some money into, i don't know, putting.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Another ten thousand seats at their stadium. Stop playing in
a shoe box. Yeah, I can't really tell what's going
on with that ground looks funny to me. On TV
the Warriors versus Penrith, you said a couple of weeks
ago that you thought the Warriors would win the comp.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
If they win this week, engrave their name on the trophy.
If they win this week and have a preliminary final,
which won't be played at Mount Smart, that'll be played
at Eton Park and it'll played at a fifty thousand seats.
That's what's the that's the rumor. If the Warriors get
the home prelim Mount Smart, farewell go to Eden Park,
where Australian teams are genetically predisposed to dying in any
(08:17):
sport they play there. If the Warriors win this week,
they'll win the whole thing. All right, I'm going to
give you a different prediction. Okay, the Warriors will go
out in straight sets.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Who will they get if they lose. If Newcastle beat
Canberra and the Warriors lose to Penrith, the Knights will
travel across to New Zealand. And I think if they
have a fit and firing Kaylen Ponger, So that's that's
my that's the one that's the qualifyer. Yep. If they've
got a fit and firing, just a fit Kaylen Ponger,
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so assume if he's fit, he's firing. I think the
Knights will beat the Warriors in the second week of
the finals, if, of course, the Knights get past the Raiders.
I think if the Raiders get past the Knights and
then regardless of they play the next week, I don't
think they'll win.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
No, the final four will be Brisbane, Melbourne, Panthers and Marius.
There won't be anyone from the bottom four making it through.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I can see Brisbane going out straight sets. I would
love it.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I would love nothing better than the Panthers to completely
fall over this week to get pants the next week.
That would be absolutely hilarious. NERLW. It's still a couple
of weeks to go. The big question for us is
how do the Raiders qualify for the finals, Because that
loss on the weekend against Newcasts or Maker. Yeah, that's
done some damage to their finals aspirations.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, so basically they've got to win both their remaining games.
They've got the Cowboys and the Titans, and they've even
got to put a big score on against either the
Cowboys or the Titans. That really help. If it's the
Titans or they need Paramatta or the Tigers to do
them a favor this weekend against Brisbane or the Gold Coast. Yeah,
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besides above them, well potentially whoever Brisbane's playing the last round.
I did look that up earlier and I've forgotten already.
That's a right. Well, keep an eye on that.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
But the NUR finals is going to be fascinating and
when the nal W gets to its finals on that
second last weekend, that's going to be great to watch
as well.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
The super serious sports show.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
So Adam Jansen, let's talk football. I don't want to
I don't care what you want to do. It's a
sports show and sometimes we have to talk football. And
when I can look at the results from the weekend
and see that Spurs one five to two and Fulham
lost five to one. If you think that's going to
go unremarked upon, my friend, you have another thought coming
Tottenham currently second in the EPL. I am fully prepared
(10:28):
for that to be similar right through until Christmas, and
then the wheels will fill. Then what happened? Then the
wheels will fall off, because that's what happens. I see
Fulham matching their form from last season and they're currently
thirteenth on the table.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
They finish higher than that last year. Not much, no,
but they did. They did come on a little bit
of respect very much mid table. Okay, mid table. So
Fulham don't play this weekend? N they unless the schedule
that I'm looking at.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I had them down as a a ten o'clock Sunday
night game Australian time. Really yeah again I thought it
was Luton. Has that been postponed?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
The one I've got says the seventeenth of September?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Oh oh it is too, that's next week. Oh well,
let's let's forget. They will talk about that later.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Let's move be fair. They lost five wonder Man City
Man CD are going to put five goals on a
lot of teams this year.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, but they did it against Fulham. Let's move on.
No football this weekend. The AFL. The AFON men's competition
has come to a grinding halt before the finals with
the momentum killing buy that I reckon, and we've talked
about this before. It's going to get changed that finals
that pre finals by will get changed to a pre
grand final by as soon as a player misses a
(11:41):
grand final due to concussion protocol. What is the protocol
in the AFL? Is it the same time? Ten or
eleven days standout, so it'll happen. It's going to happen
a player or missed the grand final. And Rowan Connolly,
who we've spoken to on this program before, did a
great article for ESPN and I highly recommend you dig
it out, which talks about how the AFL doesn't really
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think about the unintended consequences of its rule changes, and
that is another one of them that they've thought that
they haven't thought through with the concussion protocol and having
the buy stupidly before the finals to bring supposedly more
meaning to the games at the end of the season. Anyway,
we move on. The AFL W has started as well.
We'll get into that a wee bit later on, I think,
(12:23):
but I want to talk about the tribunal for a minute.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Can we go down that path? Hi, you're upset?
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Have you seen the bump that Toby Bedford has been
rubbed out of a Final four? Supposedly dangerous bump? It
is an arm to arms, shoulder to shoulder bump. The
Carlton player he runs into without looking at him, so
he's following. He's going up for the ball to make
to grobut a block on the ball. He's just moved
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into the space. The Carlton player would have seen Toby
Bedford coming and still runs into him, goes down, gets
back up, plays on. Everyone's fine, everyone's happy, everything's and
then Toby Bedford gets rubbed out for a week. And
can I guess clarify? They can I clarify here? It's
Toby Bedford we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Not Toby Green, because you know that's what's happened. I
know that's what's happened. It's the Toby tax.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
They've just got anyone called Toby who wears an orange
jumper with a bit of charcole on it.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Stick him in the bin. Yeah, someone's sideline. Someone's messed
up the Toby. Someone's got a mistake there.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
GWS now have to go to an appeals process at
this point, which means Thursday night, less than forty eight
hours before they play an elimination final in Melbourne against
the Kilda. They've got a front up to an appeals
process to try and get Toby Bedford off for all
week suspension that is a week and should never have
(13:46):
been handed out.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I'm done, I'm done. Okay, what Karen's commons Gars? Yeah, yeah,
Toby's getting suspended. Feuds. Put it in and put it
in the feuds.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Anyone who hates people who play for GWS called Toby.
You are a big fan of of American football. I'm
a big fan of American football. To are great. Shame
we have held it to the last of the segments
before the NFL season actually restarts, which means we don't
have a lot of time to talk about the forthcoming
NFL season.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
But we're gonna do it anyway. We are. We don't
keep it real simple, okay from you? Yep? I would
like a predicted super Bowl winner? Can I give you
a predicted super Bowl?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
You can do that.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, the Bills are going to lose to the forty
nine Ers and the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
The Bills are going to lose to the forty nine ers.
If you're in the forty nine ers are going to
get there. Even the forty nine ers are a chance
this year, the Bills last year. They were my prediction
last season. I just think if the Bills gets the
Super Bowl and they lose, I'll laugh. It'll be funny.
So I'm sticking with that. I don't care who they
lose to, as long as it's not Philly, Philly. That
was not Philly or Green Bay. I think it'd be
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funny if they lost to the forty nine ers. That
would be the funniest outcome. Who you got? So you've
got the forty nine ers beating the Bills. Interesting. I
have the Bills winning the Super Bowl against who? That
is a good question. Philadelphia, all right, So the Bills
to beat Philadelphia to win the Super Bowl. God, if
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it was the Bills in Philadelphia in a Super Bowl,
that'd be awesome.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
It'd be awful. That'd be chaotic, it would be a nightmare.
It'd be it'd be who do I Who do I
hate the least because I despised them both.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
I despised them both. Interesting anyway, Who's who's your smoky.
If we're going there because they're good teams, if we're
going for a long shot. I just like the fact
that Jimmy Garoppolo is finally being given a chance to
have a team built around him. Moving across to the Raiders, yeah,
there's already bad stuff coming out of that CAMPI yeah,
I know.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
But you know, I can't say the Patriots because you know,
you're just you're just saying that because you the Pets fan.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
No, I would give you the Patriots. Do you actually
think the Patriots can win it? Though? God? No, no,
there you go, there you go this year.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
In fact, the way the Patriots are going, there is
a real chance that Bill Belichick die before he sets
the all time wins record in the NFL. In need
about sixteen. So the Patriots current rate of growth, that's
going to take him well three about seven nine. They're
on a downward trajectory. I'm going for the Raiders. Who's yours?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Oh the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
By the way, we're about sixty seven dollars when I
looked a couple of days ago.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Mine's not quite that that smoky. Okay, they've never won
a Super Bowl before the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Make sure if it was Detroit and Cincinnati are on
opposite sides. Yeah, they play each other that now, see,
that would be a super Bowl to watch.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
That'd be cool. That'd be actually, you know what, I
really enjoy that. That's not my predicted super Bowl, but
I would really like that that it's possible too. I'd
like that. The Lions have never won one. They've never
even been to a super Bowl, so I think that
would be really cool. And I think they're a chance.
They're opening the season against Kansas City. Speaking of Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
The probable MVP for the season, Yeah, it's hard to
go past Patrick Mahomes. Burrow's a chance. You'd think if
Mahomes get broken, someone else he comes into it.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I ta you tal it hurts as a chance. I
took you who won't win it? Aaron Rodgers. No, that's
gonna go pair shat that the Jets. That's just that's
the moment I saw that, I was like, oh, this
is going to be interesting.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
I don't know you've ever actually seen a truck crash.
It's the old saying, you know, when you see a
truck crash, you just can't look away.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
I've seen a truck crash. Okay, it's true. You know
what's gonna happen, and you just watch with this fascination.
That's going to be us watching the New York Jets
this year. I'll give you a smoky a roughie for
the MVP as well, provided he stays fit. Yeah, and
there was a lot of hype about this guy to
a tang of Vola the Dolphins Dolphin's QB. If he
stays fit and and is close to the player that
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he was before he got repeated concussions, he's an exciting
player to watch. And if the Dolphins go on to
run off the back of him, he'll come into all
those all those questions.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, I don't really have a smoky, But if I'm
going to go Detroit for the Super Bowl for a smoky,
If Detroit a record that is that good, Jared Goff
has to be in the conversation. Thok, that'd be hilarious.
Like I can't got the record NFL fans out there.
I'm not suggesting that Jared GoF is going to win
the MVP. But if the Lions end up with like
(18:15):
an awesome record when they play sixteen games now seventeen yeah,
so let's say they go thirteen and four. He'd have
to be in the question. You have to be in
the conversation. We don't have to go deep end of
the postseason, do you reckon it's going to absolutely stink
and get the number one pick. I don't know. I
really haven't looked that far down. Hatreds.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
They'll be in Look, they'll be They're every bit possible
going to finish last in their division. So you know,
you finished last ingar division. But there's got to be
a side in there that is really going to stink
this year.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I've got one for you. Yeah, the Raiders. Oh no,
the Raiders won't be that bad. They're not far off
the bottomlight of betting. Chris Coleman. That thing. It's just
got potential to just blow up. Yeah, all right, well
we'll find out all The season starts on Friday, it does.
I'm looking forward to it. Lions versus the Chiefs. Travis
Kelcey for the Chiefs is already injured.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
I want to spend sixty seconds on this story that
I have had sitting on my desk for a month.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
A month.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
You do this, We've not done this, but I want
to see spend sixty seconds on this fun.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
We've talked in the past, take it out late every week.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
We've talked about the in the past, about transgender people
playing sport and so on.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Ah, you know my rules on chess, Chris Coleman, Well,
this is one for the year. It's a recreational like
giving by one for the year.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Because if rugby, swimming, track and field can all go
out and ban transgender women from competing and be called sports,
then chess must be a sport because chess has now
come out and is going to stop allowing transgender women
from participating in women's chess competitions. Now, if we were
talking aj about chess boxing, right, I get it. I
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would understand it. If we were talking about some of
the mutant form of chess where the objective is pawn
to bishops three.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
King to night eight, beat the opponent around the head
with the ball, I'm going you can finish the show,
and I would understand it. I'm not making this up.
I know I not make that, and that's that's the problem.
I'm not making that stupid. It is that stupid. Sorry.
I just needed to get off my chest.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I just needed to unload it's been sitting there on
my list of things to talk about for a month
and it's no. Only at one chest story a year.
And I'm not talking about the.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Guy who gave you one. I gave you zero. I'm
not talking.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I've got it in writing from you in the message
group saying you can have one unless anyone says otherwise.
The message group is the official means of communication, and
there is no chorus wonders to be.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
The title says super serious sports show. There's four people
in the group, only three of us ever reply, and
only two of those three are actually on the team exactly,
so I do appreciate the third ones feedback and thoughts
you suck up all right?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Chup with you later for another Both bosses, Yeah, you're
sucking up to them and I don't care.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Next week. Bye, Amplify CBL
The Super Serious Sports Show with Chris Carman and Adam Jansen.
Adam Jansen, it's that time of week once again when
we get together and talk about sport. What's caught your eye?
Because there's an awful lot going.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
On the AFL Finals. We spoke about them on the
show last week. They're almost finally here. So the round
kicks off with Melbourne versus Collingwood tomorrow night and then
the Swans have their upset against Carlton on Friday night.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
You know what really annoys me about the buye for
the AFL is that for the last week and a
half we've basically had nothing in the AFL men's competition
and it really is a momentum killer.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Well, the AFL w's been on, yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
But it's a momentum killer for the men's competition. Anyway,
we're not talking about AFL this week. What are we
talking about on this show?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
We're not going to talk about football because there wasn't
any is.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Conceding five goals bad? Or is scoring five goals good?
I think it's fabulous.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Anyway, depends on you scored against the NFL starts this week?
Oh excellent?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yes, all right, So we'll get the NFL on and
we have World Cup feet about to launch into us
as well. We'll talk about that in just a moment
here on the Super Serious Sports Show. It's not just
the Rugby Union World Cup that is capturing people's attention
at the moment. The Basketball World Cup, well, it's capturing
some people's attention. I think a lot of Bossie fans
have probably turned away from it. And the Cricket World
Cup squad has been named, what do you want to
(01:18):
look at first? I want to get in here. I
want to get in here. I think the Australian Boomer's
performance underwhelming at the Basketball World Cup. They were going
over there talking about potential medals. They haven't even made
the last eight. If this was the Wallabies at a
World Cup like happened a few years ago, there would
be people calling for heads rolling.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Is that going to happen in basketball? No? I I
think them just basically saying they were going to meddle
I think was a little bit ambitious. The German side that.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
They medled two years ago at Tokyo at the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
They lost to Germany and Slovenia, who were both very good.
Slovenia have one of the best players in the world
in Luka Doncic. And Germany have got a number of
NBA players, including the Wagner brothers, who were both outstanding.
But they knew they were going to be playing Germany
before the tournament. Well maybe they just mid read their
(02:12):
own their own ability. I don't know. This Australian side
will be a lot better in four more years, when
Josh Giddy's had another four years and these other young
guys like Josh Green have had another four four years
and Dison Daniels. It's not a disaster. They won three
out of five. The three games that they won, they
won by a considerable margin. They lost the German game
by three points and they got beaten a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
So they beat they beat Finland, they beat Japan, and
they beat Georgia. Is Finland a world power in basketball?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah? Finland have got Lowry Markinen from the Utah Jazz
who was an All Star this year, so they've got one.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Japan's got Japan's got NBA players in their team, okay,
and Georgia.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I don't know about Georgia, okay, and how many NBA
players as Australia having its team Yeah, but they're not
star players from Wagner is one of the star up
and coming stars of the NBA. Did a pass mark
for the Bloomers. Yeah, I think it's a pass I
don't think it's anything above that. But I don't think
it's not the fail that everyone seems to think.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
It is a C minus at best. Let's move on
cricket because you watched so much basketball. Yeah, all the
talk before was Australia's going over to medal. Australia's going
over to Meddle didn't make the last eight, only just
scraped into the last Yes.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
This is just my thoughts. I don't think it was
the I don't think it was the complete disaster that
people think. It is an admitigated disaster, but it's certainly
not good enough. No, France was an unmitigated disaster with
a number of NBA players and didn't even make it
to the second round.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
On the bright side, we should say that Australia has
by doing better.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Than New Zealand, has qualified for the Olympics next year. Yeah. Good,
they should be beating news that Chris Coleman. That would
have been an unmitigated disaster. Once I put a sign
there was a song.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I don't care as long as we beat New Zealand,
so yep, that'll work quite nicely. Quick look at the
world of cricket. Because the Cricket World Cup is coming up.
Australia has named the Clayton Squad. In other words, they've
named a fifteen man squad that may I not be
the fifteen man squad by the time the World Cup
rolls around. I find the whole thing a little bit
on the waste of time ish, Is there anything that
excites you in there? I mean, Mitch marsh has suddenly
(04:05):
found a whole lease of life on this twenty twenty
two or in South Africa, So that's great. He's finally
shown good form in consecutive games, which has been a
long time for him.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, pretty good Ashes series. Yeah, he was up and down.
He was up, down and then up again. I think
so the three players the latest three players to be
cut from the squad Tan Via Sanger, Aaron Hardy and
Nathan Ellis. I think I don't know if any of
them really should have been there. I like the fact
that Sewan Abbot's in the team. I think Shawan Abbots
(04:35):
got a lot of potential as a short form player,
of course, no, Martas Larbashane. He got cut from the
squad quite some time ago. But I think it's a
strong Australian squad. I haven't seen anything in there that
I am concerned about. All the usual suspects of there.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Ye, there's a lot of players in here who were
going to do well on what we are potentially going
to be low slow wickets in the subcontinent.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
It's a spin heavy team Ashton Ager Adam Zampa and
it's got David Warner and who's a flat track Willy
a little bit. Yeah, Now I like the squad. I
don't have anything. Nothing's jumped out at me as something
I don't like. All right, well, well World Cup is
coming up. I might change my mind if they do
have an unmitigated disaster.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
But yeah, that's entirely possible too when you're talking about
this Stralian cricket team anyway, that's coming up in a
few weeks time. On we go to the NRL Finals
Broncos v. Storm, Panthers v Warriors, Sharks v Roosters, Knights
v Raiders. Do you see an upset which one of
those four.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Games technically technically Melbourne beating Brisbane as an upset. It's
at sun Corps Stadium.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
The Broncos are as last I checked on the betting
markets favorites that game, which I find I think Melbourne ootageous.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I think Melbourne look out standing with Ryan Papenhausen in
their lineup.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I know that the Broncos rested plenty last week, but
the Storm rested a few last.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Week as well. Oh they rested plenty two.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, the Storm have beaten Brisbane. They've shown them the
rounds of the kitchen so far back that I can't
remember the last time Brisbane won a game against Melbourne
in Brisbane.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
There is not a player in the Broncos lineup who
has participated in a Brisbane side that has beaten Melbourne
at sun Corpse Stadium, so their own ground.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
So how do the Broncos go in as favorites. Is
it just Queensland as being dumb and throwing their money
at it.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
It's in Queensland and they did finish higher up the ladder,
But I think yeah, Melbourne with that late season addition
of Ryan Papenhausen successfully coming back from a horrendous injury, Yeah,
I really like Melbourne in that game. What do you
think about the Roosters Sharks game? That's pretty even money,
it's a toss of a coin.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
The Sharks still are yet to impress me, and I
know they've made the finals. They're not the only side
in the finals that has not impressed me, because the
Roosters are right up there. In fact that these outside
of teams one, two, three and four, none of the
sides there have really impressed me this year. So I
don't see a side from five to six, seven or
(07:01):
eight winning it. Those finals are.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Your castle have been good weekly. I can still see
the Raiders beating them this week.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Exactly, But I just don't see anything. If you think
anyone from outside the top four in all serious is
going to win it, you're kidding yourself.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I think the Roosters will beat Crineller. I just think
they're a better side. What do you make of playing
that final at Shark Park?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
It's the rules and are all determined ages ago that
that's how it's going to work. There was an outcry
when the Raiders were going to potentially have to play
a preliminary final in Sydney as a home game. At
one stage, you can't have the best of both worlds.
What it means is that the Sharks, instead of building
twenty five thousand unit blocks on their site, should maybe
have put some money into, i don't know, putting.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Another ten thousand seats at their stadium. Stop playing in
a shoe box. Yeah, I can't really tell what's going
on with that ground looks funny to me. On TV
the Warriors versus Penrith, you said a couple of weeks
ago that you thought the Warriors would win the comp.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
If they win this week, engrave their name on the trophy.
If they win this week and have a preliminary final,
which won't be played at Mount Smart, that'll be played
at Eton Park and it'll played at a fifty thousand seats.
That's what's the that's the rumor. If the Warriors get
the home prelim Mount Smart, farewell go to Eden Park,
where Australian teams are genetically predisposed to dying in any
(08:17):
sport they play there. If the Warriors win this week,
they'll win the whole thing. All right, I'm going to
give you a different prediction. Okay, the Warriors will go
out in straight sets.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Who will they get if they lose. If Newcastle beat
Canberra and the Warriors lose to Penrith, the Knights will
travel across to New Zealand. And I think if they
have a fit and firing Kaylen Ponger, So that's that's
my that's the one that's the qualifyer. Yep. If they've
got a fit and firing, just a fit Kaylen Ponger,
(08:47):
so assume if he's fit, he's firing. I think the
Knights will beat the Warriors in the second week of
the finals, if, of course, the Knights get past the Raiders.
I think if the Raiders get past the Knights and
then regardless of they play the next week, I don't
think they'll win.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
No, the final four will be Brisbane, Melbourne, Panthers and Marius.
There won't be anyone from the bottom four making it through.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I can see Brisbane going out straight sets. I would
love it.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I would love nothing better than the Panthers to completely
fall over this week to get pants the next week.
That would be absolutely hilarious. NERLW. It's still a couple
of weeks to go. The big question for us is
how do the Raiders qualify for the finals, Because that
loss on the weekend against Newcasts or Maker. Yeah, that's
done some damage to their finals aspirations.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, so basically they've got to win both their remaining games.
They've got the Cowboys and the Titans, and they've even
got to put a big score on against either the
Cowboys or the Titans. That really help. If it's the
Titans or they need Paramatta or the Tigers to do
them a favor this weekend against Brisbane or the Gold Coast. Yeah,
(09:50):
besides above them, well potentially whoever Brisbane's playing the last round.
I did look that up earlier and I've forgotten already.
That's a right. Well, keep an eye on that.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
But the NUR finals is going to be fascinating and
when the nal W gets to its finals on that
second last weekend, that's going to be great to watch
as well.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
The super serious sports show.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
So Adam Jansen, let's talk football. I don't want to
I don't care what you want to do. It's a
sports show and sometimes we have to talk football. And
when I can look at the results from the weekend
and see that Spurs one five to two and Fulham
lost five to one. If you think that's going to
go unremarked upon, my friend, you have another thought coming
Tottenham currently second in the EPL. I am fully prepared
(10:28):
for that to be similar right through until Christmas, and
then the wheels will fill. Then what happened? Then the
wheels will fall off, because that's what happens. I see
Fulham matching their form from last season and they're currently
thirteenth on the table.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
They finish higher than that last year. Not much, no,
but they did. They did come on a little bit
of respect very much mid table. Okay, mid table. So
Fulham don't play this weekend? N they unless the schedule
that I'm looking at.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I had them down as a a ten o'clock Sunday
night game Australian time. Really yeah again I thought it
was Luton. Has that been postponed?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
The one I've got says the seventeenth of September?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Oh oh it is too, that's next week. Oh well,
let's let's forget. They will talk about that later.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Let's move be fair. They lost five wonder Man City
Man CD are going to put five goals on a
lot of teams this year.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, but they did it against Fulham. Let's move on.
No football this weekend. The AFL. The AFON men's competition
has come to a grinding halt before the finals with
the momentum killing buy that I reckon, and we've talked
about this before. It's going to get changed that finals
that pre finals by will get changed to a pre
grand final by as soon as a player misses a
(11:41):
grand final due to concussion protocol. What is the protocol
in the AFL? Is it the same time? Ten or
eleven days standout, so it'll happen. It's going to happen
a player or missed the grand final. And Rowan Connolly,
who we've spoken to on this program before, did a
great article for ESPN and I highly recommend you dig
it out, which talks about how the AFL doesn't really
(12:01):
think about the unintended consequences of its rule changes, and
that is another one of them that they've thought that
they haven't thought through with the concussion protocol and having
the buy stupidly before the finals to bring supposedly more
meaning to the games at the end of the season. Anyway,
we move on. The AFL W has started as well.
We'll get into that a wee bit later on, I think,
(12:23):
but I want to talk about the tribunal for a minute.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Can we go down that path? Hi, you're upset?
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Have you seen the bump that Toby Bedford has been
rubbed out of a Final four? Supposedly dangerous bump? It
is an arm to arms, shoulder to shoulder bump. The
Carlton player he runs into without looking at him, so
he's following. He's going up for the ball to make
to grobut a block on the ball. He's just moved
(12:50):
into the space. The Carlton player would have seen Toby
Bedford coming and still runs into him, goes down, gets
back up, plays on. Everyone's fine, everyone's happy, everything's and
then Toby Bedford gets rubbed out for a week. And
can I guess clarify? They can I clarify here? It's
Toby Bedford we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Not Toby Green, because you know that's what's happened. I
know that's what's happened. It's the Toby tax.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
They've just got anyone called Toby who wears an orange
jumper with a bit of charcole on it.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Stick him in the bin. Yeah, someone's sideline. Someone's messed
up the Toby. Someone's got a mistake there.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
GWS now have to go to an appeals process at
this point, which means Thursday night, less than forty eight
hours before they play an elimination final in Melbourne against
the Kilda. They've got a front up to an appeals
process to try and get Toby Bedford off for all
week suspension that is a week and should never have
(13:46):
been handed out.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I'm done, I'm done. Okay, what Karen's commons Gars? Yeah, yeah,
Toby's getting suspended. Feuds. Put it in and put it
in the feuds.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Anyone who hates people who play for GWS called Toby.
You are a big fan of of American football. I'm
a big fan of American football. To are great. Shame
we have held it to the last of the segments
before the NFL season actually restarts, which means we don't
have a lot of time to talk about the forthcoming
NFL season.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
But we're gonna do it anyway. We are. We don't
keep it real simple, okay from you? Yep? I would
like a predicted super Bowl winner? Can I give you
a predicted super Bowl?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
You can do that.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, the Bills are going to lose to the forty
nine Ers and the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
The Bills are going to lose to the forty nine ers.
If you're in the forty nine ers are going to
get there. Even the forty nine ers are a chance
this year, the Bills last year. They were my prediction
last season. I just think if the Bills gets the
Super Bowl and they lose, I'll laugh. It'll be funny.
So I'm sticking with that. I don't care who they
lose to, as long as it's not Philly, Philly. That
was not Philly or Green Bay. I think it'd be
(14:49):
funny if they lost to the forty nine ers. That
would be the funniest outcome. Who you got? So you've
got the forty nine ers beating the Bills. Interesting. I
have the Bills winning the Super Bowl against who? That
is a good question. Philadelphia, all right, So the Bills
to beat Philadelphia to win the Super Bowl. God, if
(15:10):
it was the Bills in Philadelphia in a Super Bowl,
that'd be awesome.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
It'd be awful. That'd be chaotic, it would be a nightmare.
It'd be it'd be who do I Who do I
hate the least because I despised them both.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
I despised them both. Interesting anyway, Who's who's your smoky.
If we're going there because they're good teams, if we're
going for a long shot. I just like the fact
that Jimmy Garoppolo is finally being given a chance to
have a team built around him. Moving across to the Raiders, yeah,
there's already bad stuff coming out of that CAMPI yeah,
I know.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
But you know, I can't say the Patriots because you know,
you're just you're just saying that because you the Pets fan.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
No, I would give you the Patriots. Do you actually
think the Patriots can win it? Though? God? No, no,
there you go, there you go this year.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
In fact, the way the Patriots are going, there is
a real chance that Bill Belichick die before he sets
the all time wins record in the NFL. In need
about sixteen. So the Patriots current rate of growth, that's
going to take him well three about seven nine. They're
on a downward trajectory. I'm going for the Raiders. Who's yours?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Oh the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
By the way, we're about sixty seven dollars when I
looked a couple of days ago.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Mine's not quite that that smoky. Okay, they've never won
a Super Bowl before the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Make sure if it was Detroit and Cincinnati are on
opposite sides. Yeah, they play each other that now, see,
that would be a super Bowl to watch.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
That'd be cool. That'd be actually, you know what, I
really enjoy that. That's not my predicted super Bowl, but
I would really like that that it's possible too. I'd
like that. The Lions have never won one. They've never
even been to a super Bowl, so I think that
would be really cool. And I think they're a chance.
They're opening the season against Kansas City. Speaking of Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
The probable MVP for the season, Yeah, it's hard to
go past Patrick Mahomes. Burrow's a chance. You'd think if
Mahomes get broken, someone else he comes into it.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I ta you tal it hurts as a chance. I
took you who won't win it? Aaron Rodgers. No, that's
gonna go pair shat that the Jets. That's just that's
the moment I saw that, I was like, oh, this
is going to be interesting.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
I don't know you've ever actually seen a truck crash.
It's the old saying, you know, when you see a
truck crash, you just can't look away.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
I've seen a truck crash. Okay, it's true. You know
what's gonna happen, and you just watch with this fascination.
That's going to be us watching the New York Jets
this year. I'll give you a smoky a roughie for
the MVP as well, provided he stays fit. Yeah, and
there was a lot of hype about this guy to
a tang of Vola the Dolphins Dolphin's QB. If he
stays fit and and is close to the player that
(17:41):
he was before he got repeated concussions, he's an exciting
player to watch. And if the Dolphins go on to
run off the back of him, he'll come into all
those all those questions.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, I don't really have a smoky, But if I'm
going to go Detroit for the Super Bowl for a smoky,
If Detroit a record that is that good, Jared Goff
has to be in the conversation. Thok, that'd be hilarious.
Like I can't got the record NFL fans out there.
I'm not suggesting that Jared GoF is going to win
the MVP. But if the Lions end up with like
(18:15):
an awesome record when they play sixteen games now seventeen yeah,
so let's say they go thirteen and four. He'd have
to be in the question. You have to be in
the conversation. We don't have to go deep end of
the postseason, do you reckon it's going to absolutely stink
and get the number one pick. I don't know. I
really haven't looked that far down. Hatreds.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
They'll be in Look, they'll be They're every bit possible
going to finish last in their division. So you know,
you finished last ingar division. But there's got to be
a side in there that is really going to stink
this year.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I've got one for you. Yeah, the Raiders. Oh no,
the Raiders won't be that bad. They're not far off
the bottomlight of betting. Chris Coleman. That thing. It's just
got potential to just blow up. Yeah, all right, well
we'll find out all The season starts on Friday, it does.
I'm looking forward to it. Lions versus the Chiefs. Travis
Kelcey for the Chiefs is already injured.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
I want to spend sixty seconds on this story that
I have had sitting on my desk for a month.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
A month.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
You do this, We've not done this, but I want
to see spend sixty seconds on this fun.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
We've talked in the past, take it out late every week.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
We've talked about the in the past, about transgender people
playing sport and so on.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Ah, you know my rules on chess, Chris Coleman, Well,
this is one for the year. It's a recreational like
giving by one for the year.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Because if rugby, swimming, track and field can all go
out and ban transgender women from competing and be called sports,
then chess must be a sport because chess has now
come out and is going to stop allowing transgender women
from participating in women's chess competitions. Now, if we were
talking aj about chess boxing, right, I get it. I
(19:50):
would understand it. If we were talking about some of
the mutant form of chess where the objective is pawn
to bishops three.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
King to night eight, beat the opponent around the head
with the ball, I'm going you can finish the show,
and I would understand it. I'm not making this up.
I know I not make that, and that's that's the problem.
I'm not making that stupid. It is that stupid. Sorry.
I just needed to get off my chest.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I just needed to unload it's been sitting there on
my list of things to talk about for a month
and it's no. Only at one chest story a year.
And I'm not talking about the.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Guy who gave you one. I gave you zero. I'm
not talking.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I've got it in writing from you in the message
group saying you can have one unless anyone says otherwise.
The message group is the official means of communication, and
there is no chorus wonders to be.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
The title says super serious sports show. There's four people
in the group, only three of us ever reply, and
only two of those three are actually on the team exactly,
so I do appreciate the third ones feedback and thoughts
you suck up all right?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Chup with you later for another Both bosses, Yeah, you're
sucking up to them and I don't care.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Next week. Bye, Amplify CBL
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