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October 15, 2024 24 mins

Christian, Caitlin and Rio are back in the studio for another episode of After The Show. They talk about one of the most insane family lies you'll ever hear, as well as why they want you to send in your shopping lists and Christian has a lovely idea to end the year!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Christ Yeah, welcome friends to the Christian O'Connell Show podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
All right, okay, so this is after the show. It
is a meeting today. We do have business stuff to decide.
Dear listener, you are eavesdropping in on this. If you
ever have any ideas will show, you're more than welcome
to chip them in and we might talk about it
at a future episode of After the Show. You can
email me Christian at Christian O'Connell dot com dot au. Okay,
what do we want to talk about?

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Well, we always kind of come up with our own
ideas in because we are chalk a block for tomorrow,
so we can leave that. But I have an idea
that I've been so excited to tell you guys about. Okay,
you ready, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Let me guess. We're going to get title first.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yes, that is so true.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
It always starts with the title and then that's the
top of the mountain, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Okay, it's not a pun because I'm normally coming up
with them, I know, crazy, but there is a pun
in it. It comes later. Okay, wow, Okay, So I
want to introduce a new game on the show that
we have every week that jack pots all right, guess
who it's got to do with Jack pots to the
next week until someone makes it happen, and the game

(01:05):
is called make Jack Believe.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Oh, I thought it's going to be about like Jack Pott,
me too, you know Jack Post.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah, but it's Jack Potting.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yes, and that's the that's the punny party. So Jack
is a hard guy to make believe in anything.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yes, he's a skeptic.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yes, he doesn't like any.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
He doesn't believe in radio five day working week.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
So I thought it would be really fun to do
a weekly segment where we try and make Jack believe
until now so skeptic stuff, because it's.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Often that what is skeptic stuff ghosts, ghost paranormal. He
hates I love doing ghost pons and he really gets
really bussy about it. Fine, just you know, he's real
grumpy when they called in people really want to share
great ghost stories. He's like.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
That, saying, wait, it's hard because you know, especially like
as producer, are putting people through. If we put someone
that has like a really heartfelt ghost story, you know,
someone's come back, Like, but what's Jack going to say
to this poor woman who's Yeah, I like the idea.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
We often will say to them just so you know,
Jack is a bit of a skeptic, like if he
has a go at you, it's just small, fun and
playful so that they don't get actually offended.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
But yeah, I like the idea. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
And also he's really bad with like unbelievable stories like
like what are the odds?

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Who wants to be good at them?

Speaker 1 (02:38):
No, but he'll always be like I don't think that happened,
and it's like it did it happened?

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah, but often you the listeners word some of them
are congenital lives, so that is one of my I
like that. I really like that actually, yeah, because you
know he's like he will be genuine Oh well, we
know that they can't act. You know, if you listen
to this outside of Australia, consider yourself lucky because he

(03:05):
has done some TV acting work. In an advert that
he drafted. His mummy and his mom does all the
heavy lifting. Cool.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
I'll pop that one down now. Another one that I
had and it's a story. So I don't know what
the idea is able to help with this. I found
out a family lie within my partner's family. The other weekend,
we were driving somewhere together, and my mother in law,
who is called Brenda, was telling me a story about
the fact that she was born with a different name

(03:37):
and she did not find out until she was eighteen
years old.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
What do you mean different way?

Speaker 1 (03:42):
So she was born, her mother said to her father, Brenda,
I love this name. I'm going to call her Brenda.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Are you doing a Moreese action in the moment? Sorry,
it did sound like a sort of scared version of Arenda. Right?
So were they walked down that driveway that you have us?
Believe the Maltese people love to do it. They actually
do love to do it. What are they worrying about
the dust coming off to something?

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Now?

Speaker 1 (04:08):
They just love having clean property, clean house.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
That's the Maltese way, immaculate. This is the Maltese way.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
It's hard to keep up with. So she said to
her husband, great, go and take care of the Go
and take care of the birth certificate and write the
name down. They didn't find out for eighteen years that,
in fact, he wrote down her name as Bernardina. So
when Brenda went to go and get her birth certificate
and she said, my name is Brenda Dahr, they were

(04:37):
like that person doesn't exist. And she said, oh.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
My god and said this insane.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
You don't exist. So then they found like obviously got
the details of the hospital, the parents' name, so on
and so forth, and they found out that the father
had actually put her name down as Bernardina because he
didn't like Brenda, And so do we have.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
To do something about family life?

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Family lies uncovered? Yeah, so wow, that is a great story.
I really love that. I know.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
It was like, what the hell your whole life you
thought you were someone else?

Speaker 2 (05:09):
And what name does she like to go by?

Speaker 1 (05:10):
She's Brenda? Yeah she is now Brenda.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Wait?

Speaker 3 (05:13):
So did the dad was the dad? Just like I
prefer this name. I'm just going to go for it
and not tell.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Her, not tell anyone.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Has the mum blown up with the dad since she did?

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Well, yes she did back but once she found out,
she was like, you know, Sammy, what the hell?

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:29):
So again in that more Teese way, yes, yeah, wow,
so many voices.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
I know.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
I used to work with this guy, used to be
a great news reader on the show years ago, and
his dad passed away and at the funeral there were
suddenly people there that recognize Okay, weren't at the wake
start talking to them and said, you know, how did
you know? And they went, oh, one of them went,
he was my dad. He'd never see this guy before
found out the funeral dad secret family at the soil

(06:06):
of the world in America from the funeral had a
whole other family.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
He knew nothing about the other family.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
No one knew about each. They were surprised as well,
suddenly thought something must have gone on.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, that's amazing.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
How often would he like go back to America?

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I don't even know. Just They then found a load
of photos that they had of him at family get togethers.
He did a lot of traveling overseas for work business,
and why would they think any anything otherwise, But obviously
that's when he was seeing his other family. They knew
he had another family, but they didn't know to what extent.

(06:42):
It only came out in the last couple of years
of his life, you know, And this guy got to
now is heavily involved in this? You know, this whole
other family he now has. They have each other. But
at first he was very angry and confused, because you
would be, because you think, so, which who was he really?

(07:03):
Did he really love us? Did he love them more,
they say. But yeah, stuff coming up and about family
lives is hoes. You've got so much stuff for that.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yeah, I actually had a friend now that you're talking
about that.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Oh, no, the top is here. Let me guess. Found
out that her brother was Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Adding to your story on your topping it.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah, we'll get ready rear. But she's trying to blow
it out the water.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
No, it was simply that he was an air hostess
and he would fly back and forth to the US,
and he'd be over there for a couple of weeks
and then come back.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
That's how he'd get away with it by being correct.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Host found out that he'd had a twenty year affair
with another woman in the US, just by flying with the.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Long time between dates. And yes, I'm not on the
shift does run eight weeks. Just you wait, things I'm
going to do to you. It's the fourteenth. Yeah, hopefully
I'll get that shift. There's ways, ye, there's ways. Ways,

(08:08):
good to know find myself in. What do you want
to talk about? I have? Well, actually I wait, I'll
wait for that one.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
A couple of weeks ago, I was shopping. I was
walking back to the car, another a weird thing about trash,
like I hate I hate litter on the ground. I
always pick it up. So I picked up a receipt
that was someone from Woolworths and I was having a
read of it. Because I'm a nosy sticky I.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Would the same when I was even if I actually
discarded shopping lists in trolley's, I will pick it up
and read it.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yes, I even look at other people's trolleys just to say.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
What and then you judge them, don't you? Oh, someone's
got on an ass problem forty eight rolls. What are you
going on from big shit when you get back from it?

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Well, you guys are perfectly suited for this game. Then,
because I was having a look and I was like,
I know, just from the shopping list, I know everything
about you, Like I reckon it had like minutes two
minute noodles, wonder white bread. I was like, this is
a nineteen year old probably lives around the corner at
Brunswick inner share house. Yes, definitely a student, definitely lives
with like three other boys. They just had the what

(09:11):
is it the coals like sausages that you're.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Just like three dollars, you're right there. They lack of
greenery or any kind of vegetation, says young male.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
So I would love people that's good.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
To send in their receipts or their shopping list, and
then we have to I'm not entirely sure what we
figure out about them, Like, are we figuring out their jobs,
their age, that kind of stuff. Hopefully you guys can
help fill in the gaps. But you send in your receipts,
we read them out and we try to guess stuff
about you.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, we call it basketcase.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Great, great, I like, yeah, so that's basketcase. The other
idea I had more, a bit more simple idea, But
yesterday we had I can't remember her name, but she
called up. She met her husband on an Oasis fan website.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yes, that's how they fell in love.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
I always love It's the most basic question, but I
love finding out how people meet.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Oh, anytime you meet a new couple, it's always the
most interesting question to ask people because you get a
story yeah straight away, and then you're normally really nice stories.
They're great stories.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
How did you and Sarah mate?

Speaker 2 (10:23):
I was living with my Irish flatmate. He had this
girlfriend that happened to be Sarah's best friend. And one
day I came back from the pub quite drunk. I
was single then, living in London, and so then it's
like everyone you just went to the pub every night
after work. And so it must about half ten and
Adria and my Irish flatmate was getting ready to go out

(10:44):
and go and see his girlfriend and he said, oh,
she's been at a funeral today. She's really sad and
she's got a friend there and can you come along
and sort of cheer them up? And I was like, huh,
got the car, went with him and met Sarah. She
had a serious boy. From then they're on the verge
of moving in together. Yeah, and that is how we met.
And three days later she broke up.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Wow, three days.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
That's the power of me.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah, you must have been very funny.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
What did you do? Excuse me? Why does that sound surprising?
The voice went up at the end. I was, wow,
that's that burrows in the mind that does go to
sleep tonight. She's saying it like that. You must have
been then past, She used, you are different, underniable. That
must have been funnier. And then it would have been

(11:34):
nice to meet him then, lucky Sarah.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
But yeah, this is great though, just simply like, how
did you man?

Speaker 2 (11:44):
It's a good one, love.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yes, Can I suggest something back to the receipt you
guys bring in a receipt h oh No, it's actually
not going to work because I was going to say
we should bring in all of our receipts.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Be a real mystery, and then you guess.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Who's who just from three of the items.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
It's a demo round. Yeah, that actually can work. Yeah,
I know. I could pick out yours you reckon?

Speaker 3 (12:08):
What do you reckon?

Speaker 2 (12:08):
I go fancy fruit? What's fancy fruit? Blueberries, raspberries, super foods,
low fat yogurt. Yeah, yeah, see there you go. I
could guess rios rose.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Oysters in the weekly shop.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah yeah, that's just an average Tuesday Morton bay bugs
on a Wednesday, all right, a couple of things. Then
I think it'd be really great. Obviously, often on the show,
you know, I will talk about being a parent. Patsy does,
and now Jackie Boy does with his two year old son.
For a lot of our audience they are parents. I

(12:53):
think it would be great to a weekly feature that
was kind of like dispatches from the front line, where
parents can share their recent battles or whatever they had
going on. War stories yeap. Working title is World War
teen Oh. I love the teenagers is where you really
cut your teeth as a parent. Whenever I see anyone

(13:14):
who's your kid under the age of twelve, I'm like,
easy day, easy days. They think you're a golden gone.
Just you wait till the hormones arrive and the teenage years.
That's where Perrington really kicks in. It's when you've got.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Teenagers and Patsy's just about like yes.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, yeah, she's got no idea, no idea, wild wild ride.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
What did you find the biggest change, like the hardest part.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Everything changed every Yeah, everything changes because everything is changing
with them on a sort of molecular cellular level. Literally,
hormones are rising and changing with two daughters, so everything
was changing physically, emotionally, the relationship you they have with
you and then they're for you have to with them.
With them, it's like they go to bed one night
and then that child there gone, I ain't come back.

(14:06):
Someone else re emerges. Right. Oh it's also beautiful. Yeah
it is. Oh my god, I've had so much fun,
you know, And obviously now Ruby, who's twenty is technically
not a teenager, but still behaves like a teenager. Like that,
the teenage years are you can have most amazing conversations. Yes,

(14:27):
you can have so much adventures, you can go and
do more things together. But the one thing that does
change very quickly is that's when I become teenagers. That's
where they show that they've been watching you the whole time,
and they are always on the verge of disappointment at times.

(14:49):
You know, my wife would go away for a week
or so, so I just just be me and the
girls and I go, listen, this is what today's plan is.
We're going to go here. Then I mean to go
and do that, and then we're going to go here,
and they will go that doesn't make any sense, and
I go, what do you think we should do? And
they go, we should go there, then there, and then
because that's the way going and go there, and I go, yeah,
all right, let me do what you go. We'll try
you plan out. But we like that. Yeah, yes, great.

(15:14):
I think they could really become something, definitely, because there's
so many funny stories out there, you know, with our
audience and that about Perrington and what it is like
it is like kind of being on the front line
at times, and I think we do it in the
right spirit of obviously deep love and affection for our kids,
but this is the reality as well. Yeah, and you
have had Yesterday on the show, we're talking about first
world problems and I was talking about Lowis genuinely mad

(15:36):
at me. I thought, somehow we've run out of olive oil. Like,
somehow you've let this happen. You did this to you
really let yourself down as a dad here with this.
She actually did this. Empty the bottle. You're gonna be okay.
You can get through this, Yeah, Toddle, long enough, you
go go by changed.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Lowis is also very scary, like I'm scared of work seventeen.
I'm like, she's way smarter than me. Whatever you say,
I'll do it.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah. Yesterday evening, we were watching our favorite TV show
and I've about to put another one on. She went,
this is awkward, but I need you to drop up
at a friend's house. I'm staying there tonight. Oh Mama
said that I had to tell you, and I was like,
my wife was going My wife was going out as well.
I said, it's all right, you don't need to protect
me from I'm going to be okay, A night's a

(16:26):
bit early anywhere during the during the weekend for the show,
I said, it's going to be all right, which I mean,
and you, mum have been talking about it. You'll have
to break it to when you're enjoying straws. I'm not
telling you what he's lined up the second episode, not
for us. We just got turned off. Oh brutally.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
No, it's actually kind of nice that she kind of goes.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
I don't know. Yeah, but I keep telling your job
isn't to caretake us.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
No, but she knows how much you love spending time
with Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, it's the best thing about kids sometimes actually just
hanging out of the couch watching whatever TV show. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
I love that with my dad because I don'tet to
say all that often. And when I go back, I
love just being in his presence.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah, they just want you to hang out with him
when it isn't even about what is being done. Really,
it's just about hanging out with them and being fully
present there with you. And what he would what we
watch with the old man? What does he like to watch?
Fishing shows?

Speaker 1 (17:16):
No? God, no, but he does.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Not men but someone and watching some of those Channel
Channel fifty two, the Fishing Channel.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
I don't think he actually would ever watch that and
he'd be like, oh, what's his ship. He'd more be like,
I don't know, like action movies and stuff like that.
He really really loves like Jason Bourne Obsessed.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, well they came out about twenty years ago. Has
he been to the ciner in the last decade. He really
likes this new movie franchise called James Bond Injanna Jones.
He's just got into Remember we.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Always swapped like suggestions of like TV shows and stuff
like that. Yeah, so we have a very similar taste.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
The other thing we want to talk about is the
goal the right And now we do need to talk
about right because we need to start moving towards actually
it taking part on air because we're coming towards the
middle of October. And so the idea was, you know,
in Australia, the biggest TV awards of the years called
the logis. We're on the radio station called Gold This

(18:19):
is called the Goldies and it talks about people got
a heart of Gold. And I think every year every
country has like the celebrities and people in the public
sphere who've done great work, who are recognized for that,
and rightly so. But there are all these sung, unknown
heroes in our communities and in our lives and do
all the stuff that we never ever hear about, and

(18:39):
their stories already just as powerful and sometimes more powerful
because we don't even get to know about them. And
these people are kind of like reluctant heroes and probably
wouldn't even feel that comfortable about the word hero being
used with, which makes it more powerful. And so I
was thinking about the paramedics that came to Sarah's mum
when she was dying, and they couldn't save a life,

(18:59):
but it wasn't because of how hard they tried to
keep alive. Next week, Sarah and I are going to
meet the three paramedics that came to thank you. And
so I was thinking about those people and when they
left us, and they were just incredible, way beyond whatever
their training is, but they just did something else, and
I was thinking about they went off to whatever the
next call out was, you know, and that was for

(19:19):
the next eight hours. When they left us about six
o'clock on a Saturday night, I think he had Robert
saying they've got another six or seven hours left on
their shift that night, and I was thinking about all
that stress involved, and one of you guys been doing
it for twenty three years. I said that, wow, you know,
which is why my wife and I want to see
them next week. And apparently they were even slightly confused,
and they were like, Oh, they don't need to do that,

(19:39):
you know, they don't need to do that, but I
really want to do And I thought, there are so
many people like that that do real magic in the world.
And I think this year it's really felt like to
me there's a lot of really worrying, scary, genuinely scary
stuff in the world right now. We're constantly bombarded with it,
and I think it's our responsibility to actually remind people

(20:00):
there is that, but also just widen up the lens.
And there's also this right amongst us, actually people we
don't even know about. You might be in a cafe
one day and be sat opposite somebody who every week
does this for a local sports team, or goes to
see this elderly woman that lives down the road and
takes the shopping and stuff like that, And I really
want us to do a way that actually we find

(20:21):
out who these people are and we say thank you
and we celebrate their hearts of gold. That's what the
idea is.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
I absolutely love it because, as you said, there is
such a wide variety of people that deserve recognition that
don't get it, and there's also a lot of people
that want to give that recognition don't exactly.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah, we can give them that, and we can give that.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, and that's that's all that needs to be.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Don't mean anymore? Does it? Do we need? Actually awards?
How would it work?

Speaker 1 (20:47):
I do love the idea of an award.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
It's like a little car, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, something beautiful like that. That's just a little heart
of recognition.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
It's like a little kind of thing on a piece
of wood.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yeah, that pluque.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, like a plan.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
We could do that, or we could even just do
like a trophy that has a heart on it that's
obviously gold, which would.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Beautiful, I think, or something that was cheaper than actual gold.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Oh yeah, not actually gold, but gold colors.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
The way things are going, it made me miss shoppy gold.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Actually, we could do that. I do remember a story
that we once had on air, and it could even
lend into this area of a woman who had an
episode on the side of the road. I can't remember
if it was a heart attack or not, but a
man helped her and she remembers him clearly because obviously
she was going through it. She could see his face.

(21:43):
But she was never able to find him, and still
was never able and we tried to find him, but
we couldn't. So even those kind of stories that you
think about, like, imagine if we were able to find
that guy and be able to do that, even though
I'm sure he's one of those people that goes I'm
not a hero, they really are to someone, and that's
what matter is. It's not how they perceive themselves, it's

(22:04):
how people perceive them. So I absolutely love the show.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
How do we see working? We would talk about it
and not we're just done, and then invite people to
tell us about someone who is this that's.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Got hot gold, as simple as that. And I think,
like a lot of things that we do, it starts
out with the idea and keeping it simple and just
asking the question, and that will just flowing. People will flowing,
and we'll kind of lead and take it wherever it goes,
and we'll have those awards ready, and yeah, I just
it excites me to be able to be a part

(22:36):
of that because those are like the real heart moments
of the show that we always look for. And I think,
you know, it's a constant thing now is news is
always so negative and there is a scary world out
there at the moment, and being able to have good
news stories like the ones that we will hopefully get
from these people every day, it would just be a
joy to listen to much. Yeah, it gives them so

(22:59):
much and then everyone else listening.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, and I think there's a gift when you hear
about people like that. It makes you. It makes you
feel good immediately, doesn't it, even if you don't know
that person. I don't know what that is, but it
does something to you.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
It also you know, when you were talking about how
you felt and how what those people gave you, that
gave me a lot of comfort for you. Like I
thought to myself, I'm so glad that he had those
people there in those.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Hard times massively.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
And the same thing of those people that were there
for you in those hard times they experienced, they're they're
at the worst moment of people's life.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah, oh god.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah, and they take that on every single day and
so yeah, just to be able to even be recognized
to just go, you know, we really want to thank you.
You need to understand what that meant to me. Yeah,
is yeah, I think it's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
All right, let's definitely start to do that soon on
the show because it's the middle of October. Yes, all right, guys,
we've got loads here. Okay, really good to do this again.
I've missed our little catch ups like this. Thank you
very much for all your ideas. And if you know
someone who actually does have a heart of gold, email
me tell me about them. Christian A Christian O'Connell dot
com dot au. Thank you. The Christian O'Connell Show Podcast
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