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September 10, 2025 13 mins

After we got talking about bird calls in Small Thing Big Joy, we went down a rabbit hole of birds.. can you name the bird Christian is doing an impression of before our Bird Expert does?

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
Got anything good?

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (00:20):
This is the Christian O'Connell show podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Christian, the bird that you're doing the impression of. I
don't know what the bird is, but it's exactly the
same as a bird that I threw a shoe app
thirty years ago that used to live at my mom
and dad's place in the tree.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
The shoe is still in the tree to.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
This day, stuck in this bird and it goes like this,
uh huh, what is that?

Speaker 1 (00:51):
It's not a wattle bird? Christian? Is it the bird
from the movie Up? No?

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Is it a drong goo? I don't believe that's a bird?
So is it a butcher bird? Never heard of that?
I don't know, but it's a very common Australian one.
But what is it?

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:11):
Now I've got an app. It's like a Shazam for
birds called I.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Used to have this There's a Bird Love. I had
it for about five years. I've never used it once
and it was like thirty bucks a year, So I
just you know where you would actually have these things
just running, and my wife was like, what is this
with you're paying Merlin, the mythical Merlin the King Arthur
Pendragon story. So oh no, that's a bird sporting acts
that way. I'm married to a guy who has it.
App You've never you know it's going to go. I've

(01:37):
never used it.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
But now I need it. What does it say? It is?

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Now?

Speaker 5 (01:41):
I need you to do it live into the phones.
I'm going to come around.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
I'm around. I will prepare myself right Ah, I wants
more please?

Speaker 6 (01:54):
Ah? Eh?

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Is that? What is that bird? I thought there's one
in here? Yeah, but what is it? It's a very
Australian bird, isn't it. You've heard this one?

Speaker 2 (02:03):
It starts, It starts at about five am, the morning bird.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
It's a morning it can literally. In fact, I know
it starts. It wakes up later than we do because
I know if I ever hear it, I'm not going
to get it's.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
Your alarm clock.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, yeah, it's a backup. Now what it's Merlin saying?

Speaker 5 (02:21):
It says, sorry cannot.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
Christian Connell Show podcast.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Now it's not a dove, it's not a pigeon. No, no, no,
it's rarer than that. But common. It's rare and common.
What is this bird that goes?

Speaker 1 (02:42):
You hear it every morning hiding in playing sight.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
It is driving me and judging my The many many
text are coming in now I'm passing it on to
every poor innocent listener who's now going is it a dove?
Yesterday my wife and I feel our dinner. We had
chicken tie balls. One thee was left over, and that

(03:08):
that into work today. Right, So it's in the fridge here,
cooling nicely to have a cold chicken tie flavored ball.
My wife goes, I'm sure someone else went taking that
for the fridge went. No other human being. I wouldn't
want this. This is unstealable. Sometimes, you know, other people
do help themselves with certain food and I accident accidentally

(03:30):
ate someone sandwich here left ten bucks to them to
buy a new one so bad.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
It was a lot better. It's an upgrade than the
one I brought.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
But no one is going into that work fridge and
taking my Why is this a low chicken will cut
in tupper weather?

Speaker 1 (03:44):
There's not.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
There's a dry one, just cutting half like a madman's snack.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Madman is ready cold and raw dog in it.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
For what sort of meal. Do you think is that
your lunch or is that morning tea?

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Or that's not him? Oh my.

Speaker 7 (04:01):
Tear me up?

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah, rotine power punch.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Now in show we had an email and to be
back to school. And I don't know if this they
even still do this now, But do you remember when
there used to be a class pet table idea and
then young psychos were allowed to look after over the
weekend and hilarity did not ensue normally that thing was
lost or worse than that, perished over the weekend. But

(04:26):
it used to be a well known thing, didn't it.
A class would have you know it, maybe something like
a guinea pig. Did you guys ever get to look
after it? I was never trusted with it.

Speaker 7 (04:35):
Yeah. We had mice in year seven, lucky parents. For
science we had to do mice. We had these white
mice and we looked after It was for the whole year,
and we had about.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Class of simpletons in that whole year.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Must have been a bunch of thickies that could like,
oh we got a special thing and just grab that.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Probably a rat, actually that was just a big ass.
Oh no, no, that's Marsel the mouse, big thick tail
foot long road.

Speaker 7 (05:08):
And they lived in this big sort of kind of
house outhouse off the science wing at high school, and
it's stank.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Do you remember the Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
The science room or the science pot had that little
outhouse where they would conduct weird experiments in there, probably
for nefarious government agencies. I thought, you know they're up
to they're up to shnanigans in the skullduggery is one
went on with those mice in there.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
More than just our teaching.

Speaker 7 (05:34):
Mister Novak used to go in there and have a
durry at lunchtime and have a cigarette in amongst the smell.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yes, all the all the teachers right in the eighties
all smoked. Jimmy, you walk past that teacher's room. They
had that room where they were just crying there and
drink heavily.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
And also they didn't like you.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
We used to always like walk by and just stare
at the right and they used to go berserk, like
bang them.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
When you go stop. Look again.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
They needed that break, and it was like thick winds.
And also not just cigarette smoke like fall to a
secrets pipes. There's no teachers now smoking pipes. But they
were like especially the older teachers like history teachers.

Speaker 7 (06:16):
About it was always the history teacher had a pipe.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Big old thick pipe.

Speaker 7 (06:20):
Yeah, just like city in big old stone there.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, our one, right.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
I used to smoke a pipe during class, so we
do Wilson to make a salient point and it would
take it out on points the mouth and you, boy,
I don't see after start chewing on that fillows cancer
states out.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Of the pipe between their teeth.

Speaker 7 (06:49):
Yeah, we had mice.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Alex, what did you have? We didn't.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
We didn't have any of the boarding school each other
around in the old pet about there again in the
dorms light.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Being in the country. I don't think they really trusted it.
Heavy class pit. No, we didn't have any. We had
lots of snakes in the in the school. We were
talking about the other day.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
To take a pet snake over, especially brown dad, look
at this snake at school. Probably I reckon once a
month at least. But no, we never had a pit.
Did you ever get taken back? I imagine you were
a prefect like Patsy.

Speaker 5 (07:28):
I think the pets were. I mean I was school
vice captain.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
But it debate captain.

Speaker 5 (07:35):
Yeah, but I think it was getting phased out. I'd
love to know people still do it, because we didn't
have any pets by all the time I was at school.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
You weren't, just didn't. I can't imagine it's allowed to
do now. It seems crazy and rightly so. Animals have rights,
and one of them is young psychos aka kids don't
look after us at the weekend. People that can't look
after themselves and trusted with a school pet. It's a
terrible idea, all right, called it now thirteen fifty five
twenty two. Did you get to look after the class pet?

Speaker 1 (08:04):
What was it? And does it still happen to this day?

Speaker 4 (08:07):
You were Christian O'Connell show podcast.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Taking you back to school, two women.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
We used to have class pets, an actual animal and
then wait for it. The kicker is we were allowed
to take it home, so I revenber. Actually sometimes during
the summer holidays someone would have it for a couple
of weeks and that you never saw that animal ever again.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
It was everything brought up, like, hey, why has that rabbit?

Speaker 2 (08:32):
By the way, they weren't even asked. The school were
like and that's the end of that problem. Though, because
one of the old thickies has got it, you know,
like from some meny. Yes, Lenny, we've got a real
life Lenny, I didn't heard a rabbit.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Blenda's on the line. Blenda, you're a teacher.

Speaker 6 (08:54):
Yes i am. I'm a primary school teacher, right, just.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Who we're looking for this morning. So do you still
have class pets?

Speaker 3 (09:00):
No?

Speaker 6 (09:00):
Up until five Up until five years ago, I had
four blue tongue lizards and quite a lot of finally
stick insects, right.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Right, all right, And so there's no more of this
any more. Kids getting to look after over the weekend.

Speaker 6 (09:17):
Well, they used to see them during class and take
them out. They'd stick the spine leaf stick insects on
their pencil cases, or they call up their arms on
their heads, and when the stick insects multiplied, they would
be able to take them home and peat them. Right,
because when they multiplied, you'd get hundreds.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
It's the seven of the rabbits as well. Stick Linda,
Thank you very much. You cool have a good day.
You two buye Now tell me.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
About Sean Dooley.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
You've got very excited just now, Yes is making a
cup of tea. Came back in the studio and the
Rio pro was very excited. Who is Sean Dooley.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
This is the Sean Dooley. He's the Chief BURDENRD of Australia. Yes,
and he used to have a segment I believe called
squawk Back on ABC Radio.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Bring it Back, Bring It Back, Sean. Just a man,
I need to speak to Sean. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Thank you, Christian.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
So you're a fellow bird lover. Are you an ornithologist?

Speaker 3 (10:15):
No, no, but I am. I work with BirdLife Australia
who run the Aussie Bird Count every year, which is
just about to kick off in October. So I'm on
the bridge between the bird nerds and the general public translator.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yes, right, I gotcha.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
I speak bird and.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Love it Sean. What is the bird Count then? What
is that?

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Yeah, it's a thing we do at BirdLife Australia every
year where we get people to count the download the
bird Count app and count birds in their backyard.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Oh my god, we got we're talking Okay, the listeners
to do this.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah, yeah, we'd love it because it feels in a
huge gap of knowledge for us at BirdLife because we
don't know enough about our common birds. We focus generally
on rare birds and so this really helps, but also
it means that people can work out what what the
hell it is that's making that noise.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
In that that's me. That's me today, Shawn, You're just right.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
I made this app I do.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
What's the app?

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Because I know there's probably a lot of people listening
that fancy doing this and if you've got kids and family,
what a great thing to do teaching about the ones
of the natural world.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
What's the app?

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, it's called the Ossie bird Camp app and it's
the registrations have just open so you can download it,
but you can't count until October. But there's a little
feature on the app which you can put the details
of a bird you see, like its size, shape and color,
and it'll give you some suggestions with photos of what
that bird might actually be that's driving in nuts in

(11:44):
your backyard.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, this is me right now? Then?

Speaker 2 (11:46):
What by Sean is this? It's three parts to it.
It's uh all day long, twenty four seven. It goes
to work at about five thirty am.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Uh uh what is that?

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Sean Unkenny? Is your just what your impersonation is? I
think with the tonya using I reckon It's actually a
pied curral which is like a member of the magpie family,
but it's a bit bigger, with a with a yellow
eye and much more black. And they people who've been

(12:23):
to the snow would know it because it used to
sort of only be up in the mountains, but they've
they've migrated into the cities in like Sydney in the
eighties and nineties, then Melbourne in the last twenty years.
And I reckon that that might that might be the call.
It's giving a it's quite a loud one and.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah, really really, i'd say loud splash irritating.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
You can't sleep in at the weekend.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
That thing is up there at like five thirty am.
It's like, get up and you can't turn that. You know,
some bird noises you turn them off, you can kind
of like.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
So it's a pied.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Krawan, yes, yeah, black and white one.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
So there different types of krawan.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah, there's a there's a gray carawong, but that's much
more found out in the bush, right, and so you
get it on the fringes of Melbourne and sort of
Geelong and prices like that, but it's not really in
the suburbs much. There's another line in Tezzi called the
Black carow On, which is the biggest of the lot.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
It would be over there now, Sean. This has been
a really really enjoyable chat my friend. Now I've got
your number, I know we are so we can start
counting the birds in the backyard in October and its
Aussie Bird.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Count is the app.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Great lovely to chat to. Sean. Have a great day.
Thanks you calling the show.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Thanks mate.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
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