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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Well, he's the son of one of our greatest sporting stars.
Jackson Warn has begun to forge his own path in life,
having already conquered the brutal sas course.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Now he's putting his creative energy into podcasting, creating a
new show where he talks to some big names and
shares stories about his dad, the late great Shane Warn.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
The title of the podcast is called Waran's Way.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
I hope you guys enjoy listening to it and watching
it as much as I've enjoyed doing it. And yeah,
I couldn't be more excited about this, and I know
you probably and.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Jackson Warren joins us live from his home in Melbourne.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Hey, Jackson, good morning, Kyleie, Good morning doctor Chris. Thank
you for having me and thank you for calling me
doctor too. Jackson.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I appreciate it. You insist it really do mandatory. It's
great to see you and such a great idea. How
have you found time? How have you found this this
time of becoming an interviewer for you?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Well, last years, I never thought I'd be doing something
like this, you know, I've always been sort of shy
and introverted, and talking on camera was probably the last
thing I thought i'd be doing. But ever since the
state memorial, that sort of really changed for me. And
then obviously doing a lot more talking on camera with
the shamewor legacy, with all the health checks, that's also
made me a bit more confident. And I think there's
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also a lot of people out there still in Australia
especially that want to hear stories and remember Dad. I've
I've heard so many people come up to me and
they all have a shame worn story. So it's cool
hearing from Dad's friends their perspective.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Okay, well, from what you're saying, it's like you've found
your voice, which is a beautiful thing. Jackson. When you
announce the podcast, you released this video on social media,
you were quite open and honest about what we can expect.
Let's take a look.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
I know you're probably thinking, oh, not another podcast, but
just give me six months, one episode a week, twenty
six episodes and we'll go from there. If it's I'm gone.
But I'm really excited to share this with you guys.
I hope you all enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I love another proach. I was quite refreshing.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Yeah, yeah, well, I feel like everybody's got their own
podcasts now and I've definitely acknowledged that they are popping
up at it everywhere, so I don't want people to think, oh,
it's just another podcast.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
So I hope my point of.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Difference is people being able to remember Dad. I hope
people are enjoying it, and that's why I said, just
give me six months.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
If it's no good, I'm gone. But hopefully everybody enjoys it.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
It is very much like your dad to be so
transparent and so honest, which we obviously love as well.
And you're going to be talking to some pretty heavy
hitters in the sporting and media world. Can he drop
some names for us abou who we might be hearing
over the coming weeks.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Yeah, well, I don't want to spoil too much, but
I've already I've sort of teased the first few on
that trailer that I dropped. But I'd love to speak
to people like Glenn McGrath and obviously Ricky.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Ponting, Alan Border, all of these cricketing.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Icons that Dad played with, because it'd just be so
cool hearing Dad's life from the early nineties to the
two thousands into the commentary box. I'm hoping to speak
to people like Michael Vaughan who used to play against
over in the UK. So obviously the call will be
the sports, but I'd love to talk to people that
got a health check for example, and that they've actually
made real life changes. So I don't want to pigeonhole
myself into only being Dad's friends, but I think that's
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at the moment what I feel comfortable doing, and it
gives me a bit of practice as well.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
You say that you're hearing these stories about your dad
and everything is anything you've learned about him that perhaps
you didn't know before Jackson, No.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
I haven't learned anything, but I'm happy that everything's sort
of in common.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
It's he's always being very respectful, very nice.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
He's always lending people a space, smoke if they need it,
or you know, all these things in common where he's
just being himself one hundred percent of the time, no
matter where it is. So it's comforting to know that
the dad that I knew at home is also the same,
you know, the same dad that meets everybody out in public.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Because there is two versions of him. But it's just
nice that when people meet him face to face, it's
the same.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
What are those two versions, Jackson, What do you mean
by that?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Well, there'd be the Shane warn that is obviously in
the media and that people would know, the aggressive spin
bowl or all that sort of stuff. But then there's
the dad's at home that actually, you know, loves to
play monopoly or cuddle or all that sort of just fun,
lovey dovey dad stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
So yeah, yeah, that's lovely to hear. And you'reso sharing
your own stories of growing up with your dad. What
do you think people will be surprised to find out
about it?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Surprised?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Well, I feel like his whole life was under a microscope,
So I'm not sure if there's many things that would
probably surprise people because everything was sort of out there
already on display. But I think people would be surprised
with how patient he was. People probably already know that
with bowling, obviously, in test cricket especially, you have to
be patient. But he was surprisingly patient when it came
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to monopoly and to all these sort of things, So
that might surprise people.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I don't know. People I don't know. I don't know
what would surprise him, to be honest, maybe I'll find
out something when I'm doing these stories. For the podcast, What.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Do your siblings think You've got your sisters? Siblings are
known to be quite brittally honest when appraising the work
of fellow siblings. What are your sister's thoughts on your podcast?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
I think they're just really happy that I'm trying this
and giving it a go, because they know how shy
I am and how sort of my whole life I
never really thought I'd be doing something like this, or
especially talking on camera. So for them, they're sort of
seen me sort of face my fears and especially talking
about something that is quite personal and emotional, but actually
I can smile about it and hopefully spread positivity and
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help people by doing that.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I think it's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
But I've actually just remembered something doctor Chris I said,
was there anything that I've heard that surprised me of Dad?
I found out something that surprised me when Dad was
on the jungle when he said he believed that we
evolved from aliens or something. That was the first time
I'd heard it that he had believed in that. So
I've just thought of that memory. I'm looking after him
on the Jungle, Doctor.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I remember him sharing this when he was in camp
and the in depth analysis because the camp is surrounded
by ba burons and monkeys, and talking about how similar
we are and also the aliens and how his belief
that that the reason we have iPhones was because of
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the alien influence, and he stepped it all out and
had everyone transfixed by that, and it was just such
a brilliant storyteller. You're obviously showing those traits as well,
and we was so hawked by every single.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Take that was he serious or was he having a lean?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I couldn't never. I could never tell Jackson, was that
a serious, serious belief or was he just just entertaining No.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I definitely think it was a serious belief. He was
a good one into all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
He loved trying to figure out who built the pyramids
and all those sort of things. So definitely every time
he said something he definitely meant it. It's just funny
that he sort of could make He had this sort
of ability that when he was telling a story or
talking that everybody just wanted to listen. And so you
definitely remember that exact moment when I think they were
having a swim by the lake or the river telling
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that story and everybody was just like, ah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Wow, Jackson, your partners also working on this podcast producing
the interviews that you're doing. What's it been like having
your partner as kind of your boss or your co worker.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
It's been awesome.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
She's definitely saying because she's not like somebody that will
just tell me what I want to hear. She's definitely
something that gives me constructive criticism and I definitely take
it on. And she's always honest one hundred percent of
the time. She's actually just out of frame, but she's
not letting me spin the camera because she said she
doesn't want to be on camera this morning. She got
a bit embarrassed when she was on the camera last time.
So it's been awesome sort of working together. Yeah, it's
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been awesome.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
She's close by keeping an eye on you.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
That's true, Jackson.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Just quickly, are you also scared of spiders or how
are you with spiders?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Well, my three biggest fears, so Daddy's to say, spiders
to him wasn't a fear as a phobia, and I've
sort of based my three biggest fears with which was socializing, cold, water,
and food.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I now face them all on.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
I eat normal food, I getting cold water just fine.
I have ice passed quite often, and socializing no problem.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
But the spider I still cannot.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Even when I'm in the bathroom, when I see their
daddy long legs in the corner wherever it is, I
just I can't.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Be in there.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
I think Dad's put that into my blood. But I
can't face that fear of spiders. It's now phobia. I
actually think he traumatized me. Would have been back in
two thousand and eight or nine, we tried watching the
movie in the rachnophobia and we couldn't finish it.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
We couldn't finish the movie.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Turn halfway through I was trying to jump on his
shoulders because I thought spiders were coming out of everywhere.
It was just yeah, it was awful. I thought they
were coming out the shower. So definitely, you haven't faced
my fear of spiders yet.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
It might be a good interview topic for the podcast.
Yeah right, it's someone a spider expert, Jackson.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
So lovely talking to you. I think you've inherited your
dad's gift of the gap quite frank, I think this
is going to be terrific podcast.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Well done, Thank you for having me. I might have
to I'll throw hail Mary.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
I might have to try and get Robert Irwin on
the podcast to tell me about wildlife and try and
help me cure my sort of fear of spiders that
we knew, doctor christ I.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Mean, if you look for an animal expert or.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Even you, you know, if Robert's not available, see when
you go with Robert first, and then you.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Or anyboy and you, Kylie whoever wants to come on
try and help me beat.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
My favorite spiders.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I'd be right with you up on the top of
the couch. Jackson's podcast, WARN's Way, that's what you need
to look out for. WARN's Way. It is available to
stream right now with Jackson behind the microphone. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Great to chat to you, Jackson.