October 28, 2025 • 6 mins
Living longer is the dream for many of us. But where do you draw the line, 80, 9 or 100? Well, our next guest wants to bio-hack her way to 150!
For more, bio-hacker Kayla Barnes-Lentz joins.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Well, living longer is the dream for many of us.
But where do you draw the line? Eighty ninety one
hundred's got to.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Be eighty years of Larry's the morning show host.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Yes, that's way too long. Our next guest wants to
buy her hacker way to one hundred and fifty.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
That sounds about right. Kayla Barnes Lens has spent a
decade and close to three hundred thousand US dollars trying
to push the boundaries of longevity. So in her experience,
what works, what doesn't and are there any regrets to
tell us more bio Hacker. Kayla Barnes Lents joins usly
from our Melbourne studio. You look very fresh, Kala, So
I'm very interested in all of this advice. You're not
(00:36):
a doctor, but you've spent ten years in this field,
trying many different techniques. What joins your passion for living longer?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Why do you want to do it?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
You know, I've always been very interested in health, but
about six years ago, when I went to go open
my own longevity medicine clinic, I started ordering just tons
of labs that doctors had never recommended before, things like
gut testing, toxin testing, biological age test, advanced thyroid and
hormone labs, and I realized that there was so big
(01:04):
of an opportunity to improve and really dictate not only
how we feel right now so more energy and vitality,
but also potentially the length of our life. So I
am really excited to just get all of the best
things out of life, and I think that living longer
and healthier is exactly how we do that.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Now, what you're doing isn't for everyone, especially from a
financial perspective. It's expensive to do now, and then you've
got to have a lot of money to live in
extra ide years. What are some cheaper alternatives that people
can do to boost their longevity. I guess it's the simple,
straightforward stuff, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
It certainly is mastering the basics, things like prioritizing sleep,
focusing on reducing stress, prioritizing social connections, really dialing in
your exercise, maybe improving things like grip strength or VO
two max, which are two known predictors of longevity, and
then really focusing on what you're eating. Your nutrition. So
we make about three hundred million cells every four seconds,
(02:01):
so it's never too late or too early to start
optimizing for health.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I think we all get a bit confused by all
the fads, don't we. Okayl like what works and what
doesn't and what's just the latest thing. And of all
the research you've done, there is one product you recommend,
a sauna. What's so beneficial about sweating and ad And
is it a traditional sauna or infra red sauna?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah, so both forms of sauna are really one of
the most science backed longevity practices. So the research supports
that for or more so, four to seven times per
week can reduce your risk of all cause mortality by
about forty percent. It can reduce your risk of dementia
potentially by up to sixty six percent, and even the
risk of fatal cardiac events by up to about fifty percent.
(02:45):
So very well studied. And it's also great for detoxification,
glowing skin, and for reducing your inflammation. And I will
say I'm excited because my husband and I own a
sauna company, Heavenly Heat, and we just rolled out here
in Australia. So they're the lowest and lowest EMFs on
the market.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Oh that's interesting. Hey, Kayla, you know we've been saying
the morning make the lady who wants to live to
one hundred and fifty and it's a good headline. It's
kept people here. I'm sure, what's the reality of your
story and how far ahead are you actually really really looking?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah, I mean we know that currently the max is
about one twenty for lifespan. But with the use of AI,
I mean, AI has already found so many novel treatments
for different conditions, and I really think that we're going
to get to the root of why we age. We
have about, you know, fourteen hallmarks of aging. But I'm
looking to see excited to see what we're going to
find and how we can really optimize our lifespans.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
What's something you wouldn't waste your money on that we
say advertised potentially and your site not don't don't or
about sure.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I mean, one of my least favorites is probably cold therapy.
I think men and women also differ a bit with
cold therapy, so that would be mine.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Okay, do you ever worry that you're missing out on
some naughty things or some fun things or things that
all your friends are doing their best time and eating
and drinking and all that.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Stuff, you know, I think as a society, we've really
conditioned ourselves to celebrate with things that are a little
bit harmful. So maybe either a huge meal that you
don't feel great after, or maybe alcohol, which we know
is a neurotoxin, which we know increases the risk of cancer.
So for me, I celebrate with healthy habits, and I
love waking up with a great sleepsore and feeling incredible
(04:25):
and bursting with energy. So I'm excited for maybe that
cultural conversation to start changing.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
So your love life is also very interesting. Your false
with your now husband. Let me go there. It's a
hyperbaric oxygen shamber. I mean, obviously you've got a lot
of common ground there, or at least you trapped in
there to find some.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Yeah, I mean, you know, I sent him seven lab
tests prior to our first interaction, prior to our first date, so.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I don't know. I don't know that his lab tests
to compare with yours.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Yeah, I sent him to than to do. He also
sent me all the labs that he had, So maybe
that's the future of dating.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Wow, Because you want him to live as long as
you I do.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I certainly do. We got married a little bit later
in life, so we were in our thirties and we
want to do everything that we can to be able
to spend more time together.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Well, looking a man in a hyperbaric shame, this sounds
like a pretty good way to look him down. You
must get a lot of offers from brands to work
with him, right. Everyone wants to be in this space now,
and that's one of the reasons you hear in Australia.
What makes you decide to work with a particular product.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Yeah, integrity is really everything. I think when you build
a large audience, it's your duty to only recommend things
that can benefit their health. I'm super excited to be
here in Australia where one of the brands that I
work with, Nude by Nature, is based. They're actually a
makeup company, but they use the cleanest ingredients. They also
have a very skin forward approach to things that actually
(05:50):
nourish the skin, and I love that they use unique
ingredients to Australia. So it's been such such a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Oh, it's a pleasure to have you here, Calleren. Fascinating
to hear all of those in sites. Good luck with
your trip, Pere and in your future endeavors.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Thank you. So much for having me.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I'd love to get into one hundred and fifty. I'll
be there in sixty years time. I'll send you a fact,
I'll let you know what it's like.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
You thank your not did any sickness in health anymore.
You just go with just in health with your marriage
vows if you do the test beforehand,
Well, living longer is the dream for many of us.
But where do you draw the line? Eighty ninety one
hundred's got to.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Be eighty years of Larry's the morning show host.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Yes, that's way too long. Our next guest wants to
buy her hacker way to one hundred and fifty.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
That sounds about right. Kayla Barnes Lens has spent a
decade and close to three hundred thousand US dollars trying
to push the boundaries of longevity. So in her experience,
what works, what doesn't and are there any regrets to
tell us more bio Hacker. Kayla Barnes Lents joins usly
from our Melbourne studio. You look very fresh, Kala, So
I'm very interested in all of this advice. You're not
(00:36):
a doctor, but you've spent ten years in this field,
trying many different techniques. What joins your passion for living longer?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Why do you want to do it?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
You know, I've always been very interested in health, but
about six years ago, when I went to go open
my own longevity medicine clinic, I started ordering just tons
of labs that doctors had never recommended before, things like
gut testing, toxin testing, biological age test, advanced thyroid and
hormone labs, and I realized that there was so big
(01:04):
of an opportunity to improve and really dictate not only
how we feel right now so more energy and vitality,
but also potentially the length of our life. So I
am really excited to just get all of the best
things out of life, and I think that living longer
and healthier is exactly how we do that.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Now, what you're doing isn't for everyone, especially from a
financial perspective. It's expensive to do now, and then you've
got to have a lot of money to live in
extra ide years. What are some cheaper alternatives that people
can do to boost their longevity. I guess it's the simple,
straightforward stuff, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
It certainly is mastering the basics, things like prioritizing sleep,
focusing on reducing stress, prioritizing social connections, really dialing in
your exercise, maybe improving things like grip strength or VO
two max, which are two known predictors of longevity, and
then really focusing on what you're eating. Your nutrition. So
we make about three hundred million cells every four seconds,
(02:01):
so it's never too late or too early to start
optimizing for health.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I think we all get a bit confused by all
the fads, don't we. Okayl like what works and what
doesn't and what's just the latest thing. And of all
the research you've done, there is one product you recommend,
a sauna. What's so beneficial about sweating and ad And
is it a traditional sauna or infra red sauna?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah, so both forms of sauna are really one of
the most science backed longevity practices. So the research supports
that for or more so, four to seven times per
week can reduce your risk of all cause mortality by
about forty percent. It can reduce your risk of dementia
potentially by up to sixty six percent, and even the
risk of fatal cardiac events by up to about fifty percent.
(02:45):
So very well studied. And it's also great for detoxification,
glowing skin, and for reducing your inflammation. And I will
say I'm excited because my husband and I own a
sauna company, Heavenly Heat, and we just rolled out here
in Australia. So they're the lowest and lowest EMFs on
the market.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Oh that's interesting. Hey, Kayla, you know we've been saying
the morning make the lady who wants to live to
one hundred and fifty and it's a good headline. It's
kept people here. I'm sure, what's the reality of your
story and how far ahead are you actually really really looking?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah, I mean we know that currently the max is
about one twenty for lifespan. But with the use of AI,
I mean, AI has already found so many novel treatments
for different conditions, and I really think that we're going
to get to the root of why we age. We
have about, you know, fourteen hallmarks of aging. But I'm
looking to see excited to see what we're going to
find and how we can really optimize our lifespans.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
What's something you wouldn't waste your money on that we
say advertised potentially and your site not don't don't or
about sure.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I mean, one of my least favorites is probably cold therapy.
I think men and women also differ a bit with
cold therapy, so that would be mine.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Okay, do you ever worry that you're missing out on
some naughty things or some fun things or things that
all your friends are doing their best time and eating
and drinking and all that.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Stuff, you know, I think as a society, we've really
conditioned ourselves to celebrate with things that are a little
bit harmful. So maybe either a huge meal that you
don't feel great after, or maybe alcohol, which we know
is a neurotoxin, which we know increases the risk of cancer.
So for me, I celebrate with healthy habits, and I
love waking up with a great sleepsore and feeling incredible
(04:25):
and bursting with energy. So I'm excited for maybe that
cultural conversation to start changing.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
So your love life is also very interesting. Your false
with your now husband. Let me go there. It's a
hyperbaric oxygen shamber. I mean, obviously you've got a lot
of common ground there, or at least you trapped in
there to find some.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Yeah, I mean, you know, I sent him seven lab
tests prior to our first interaction, prior to our first date, so.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I don't know. I don't know that his lab tests
to compare with yours.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Yeah, I sent him to than to do. He also
sent me all the labs that he had, So maybe
that's the future of dating.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Wow, Because you want him to live as long as
you I do.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I certainly do. We got married a little bit later
in life, so we were in our thirties and we
want to do everything that we can to be able
to spend more time together.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Well, looking a man in a hyperbaric shame, this sounds
like a pretty good way to look him down. You
must get a lot of offers from brands to work
with him, right. Everyone wants to be in this space now,
and that's one of the reasons you hear in Australia.
What makes you decide to work with a particular product.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Yeah, integrity is really everything. I think when you build
a large audience, it's your duty to only recommend things
that can benefit their health. I'm super excited to be
here in Australia where one of the brands that I
work with, Nude by Nature, is based. They're actually a
makeup company, but they use the cleanest ingredients. They also
have a very skin forward approach to things that actually
(05:50):
nourish the skin, and I love that they use unique
ingredients to Australia. So it's been such such a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Oh, it's a pleasure to have you here, Calleren. Fascinating
to hear all of those in sites. Good luck with
your trip, Pere and in your future endeavors.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Thank you. So much for having me.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I'd love to get into one hundred and fifty. I'll
be there in sixty years time. I'll send you a fact,
I'll let you know what it's like.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
You thank your not did any sickness in health anymore.
You just go with just in health with your marriage
vows if you do the test beforehand,
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