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August 18, 2025 • 17 mins

Book Week is finally here (we feel like we have been thinking about it for months), Leonardo DiCaprio says he's emotionally in his 30s, and we have THOUGHTS about people claiming that dogs are the same as babies.

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
My Heart podcasts, hear more Kiss podcast playlist and listen
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Hockey and Laura Burn.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Bady your work, our windows done. If my world risen,
the dust on't make good zabs all down.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
I've don't march, but yeah I'm not. I'll big get and.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
What I want.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
It don't matter where.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
This is the pickup. Happy Monday, everyone, It's the pick up.
We've bring Hockey and Laura Burn.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
How was your weekend laws, you ventured down the coast?

Speaker 1 (00:45):
My weekend was great.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Do you know what though?

Speaker 1 (00:47):
I just received the email that no parent wants to receive.
No never from daycare.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
We lost your child.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
No, she's secure, she's fine. Knits yeahs an outbreak of knits,
said the daycareel Like.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
You get that email every two weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
It's well, because one child's in daycare and one child's
in school that goes in rotation. It's kind of like
a two monthly. It's not to say that they have nits,
but it's just like, you know it's coming for you.
If there's been an outbreak in the daycare, it's coming.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Can't you just do a family group shave.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Literally, that is what I've said to my husband last time.
I was like, can we just everyone goes bald, we
reset and we start fresh.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Because you have to do like everything you have to do.
The couches, like the lounges need to be treated.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Well apparently not. Apparently they have chained, not that anyone cares.
They're like current standards on how to care for your
household when you get nits.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
We used to have to do couches and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, but apparently they've done research into it. And the
eggs and the knits don't live, they don't live on fabrics,
so once they like get on there, they don't last
very long.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Before you tell Australia that. Do you want to look
that up? Because I don't know if we should be
If anyone is.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Coming to the pickup to try and figure out the
best cause for knit treatment, just don't just don't come
here because it's something we're constantly dealing with in my house.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
Well yeah, I mean we are fact checkers here. I
think Grace is checking as we speak.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
I don't know. You know what though, if you do
have kids, you will know the it is book week
this week, mate, this book Week.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
I feel like we've been talking about book Week for
a month.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
We have been, but you helped me out this time,
at least, like you know, you held make Marley's costumes,
so at least we've got one in the bag. But
I got woken up very very early this morning and
there was a little bit of drama in my household.
It feels like we can never get away from book
Week unscathed.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Also, you think that like you're safe from drama in kindergarten,
but you're not. Book Week strikes again.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
No, it's actually pre school that's really gotten us this time. Anyway,
I'm going to tell you about it next. It's a
big up. Hey.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
I can't believe it's finally here because I feel like
we've been talking about it for a long time. I've
had my glue gun out, I had sparkles, I had
so much stuff. But it is finally book Week.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
It really is, although in my kids' lives they've managed
to extend it over two weeks. So Lola has book
Week this week and Marley has her Book Week event
next week. And she was devastated when she woke up
this morning and thought her sister won up during book week. Anyway,
So this morning I got woken up at five am.
Lola comes in and she shakes me and wakes me up.

(03:10):
She like stands next to the bed like a little
dementor until you like kind of just feel this presence
that there's something like a human staring at you.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
See, I don't want to open your eyes because then
it's real and you have to get up.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
No, I like wake up to this like ominous little
figure in the dark staring me down. And she goes,
where is my blue costume? And I was like what
she's where is my bluey? I was like, what is
your book week? And so then I got woken up
at five am and I could I didn't even know
for the life of me where my husband had put
the bloody bluey costume that she's wearing to bookweek today,

(03:40):
and we had to find it. We hunted through the
house at five am this morning. We found it. I know,
everyone's on the edge of their seat's petrified, but we
found it. It's a full body bluey costume and also
has like a little face mask. And she was sitting
at the kitchen counter at five point forty five trying
to eat sultana brand through the tiny slip of her
blue faces. But I feel like every year it levels up. Now,

(04:03):
like we did a competition on the show where you
guys were sending in your amazing bookwek costumes, and truly
it made me realize how what a shortfall I've been
so far as a barn.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
You know, I only remember, like I was trying to
rack my brain back at my book, We're outfits as
a kid, and I only remember too ever, and they
were both pretty similar, and they were both highly inappropriate
when I think about it, My sister and I would
be dressed up as first of all, gumnut babies. You
remember the gumnut babies.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
But won't they naked?

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yeah, I'm not, Laura. If I need to try and
find you this photo I kept. Mum just got like nude.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
Colored crepe paper and we had like a little skirt,
but like mini skirt, like it was above the knee,
and then we had a boob tube so it just
like wrapped around.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
She stapled it together and that great paper.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
Yeah, and then just got like hundreds of leaves from
the garden and stapled the leaves onto the outfit. And
then we got a beanie so we had a gumnut
hat and she put bean and she put leaves.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
All over it, and that was our outfit.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Were you wearing clothes underneath costume more than paper? What
if you got rained on?

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Oh that was well, I guess you had to check
the weather. I don't know. And then the other one
the year later, we were like Hawaiian hula girl.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
I have seen that one, yeah, which I was super cute,
to be fair, but like I had a bikini top on.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
With a whole skirt like you would never.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
You would never. But I also didn't even know it
was a thing. Before becoming a parent, I had no
concept the book week ever existed.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Did you never have it?

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, because I went to I don't know if it
was just like Catholic schools in the nineties, but like,
I didn't know there was. It wasn't that kind of school.
But I honestly we never had it. Didn't have it
in primary school. Wasn't a thing. And then I went
to high school and like my high school never celebrated
book Week. They didn't believe in books.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Can you read?

Speaker 4 (05:50):
Not?

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Really?

Speaker 1 (05:53):
We all established last week that I don't know how
to say gamuts, so good.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
Mo it is.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Oh God, producer, Grace, did you dress up to anything
this Book Week?

Speaker 4 (06:00):
I feel like you would have been the person that
like tried to make a costume a six months in advance.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
I loved Book Week as a kid. But I was
looking through all the entrance from the competition we did
the other week. It was so odd seeing all these
like really modern costumes from books I'd never heard of.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
I was only into the classics. So how old were
you to start with?

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Like I remember, I must have been maybe eight, and
I was going as Heidi, this little German girl from
the book which was released in eighteen eighty By the way,
she goes to the.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Swiss Alps to live with her grandpapa and a goat
for what. Nothing about that surprises me now that we
know you what what eight year old has a book?

Speaker 3 (06:36):
And actually who has a book from eighteen what? Eighteen
eighteen eighty one?

Speaker 1 (06:40):
It was released?

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Gray, and that was your jam.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
I was a nerd.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
I still am. We know Grace is on the case. Everyone. Well, look,
if you're a parent and you're out there suffering through
bookweig you might be one of the ones that really
thoroughly enjoy it we discovered that they're out there. It's
not for me. I've got three costumes Folola this week
because she's in daycare three days. Tomorrow she's going as Batman,
and then day three she's going as a cat. We
don't have any books about cat, and she goes a cat.

(07:04):
Last year we have no was a penguin, Thank you
very much, Vernon the Penguin. She was just really hell
bent on going as a cat that didn't have time
to find a corresponding book. So whatever. Wednesday is a
bit of a yolo day for us.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
All right, well I'm done as well. I'm never making
your book week costumes again, Laura. I feel like Leonardo DiCaprio.
We grew up with him being he was a bit
older than us, but he was the heartthrob of He
was the one that you would stick on your wall
as a poster, like you know when.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
He was him and also Hanson, so yeah, oh yeah, Hanson.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
But he was like, I don't know, he was of
our time, I guess, And I think he's probably, for me,
one of the most controversial people at the moment in Hollywood,
and I don't know whether to love him or hate him.
You know how he always gets his controversy about dating
younger women.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Well, he went from being I mean, do you remember
him in Romeo and Juliet. He was so young, he
couldn't do anything wrong, he was so hot. No, then
everyone the beach like he was just beautiful.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
And then the beach was like that lives reund for him.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
He really was. He was a beautiful, beautiful man, and
then everyone wanted to date him. And then somehow he
went from being this beautiful heart throb to being a
cringy old dude who's now dates nineteen year old kids.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
So, believe it or not, that much time has gone
past that. He has just turned fifty, so he's in
his fifty birthday. Le well it was last year, but
he's kicked off the Internet's kicked off again because people
he became a bit of a butt of all the jokes.
The oldest woman he's ever dated is his current girlfriend
right now, who is twenty seven years old. And we've
spoken about him and we've had laughs on the podcast

(08:32):
on the radio show before about the fact that like
he was dating twenty year olds as like forty eight
year olds, and we're all for the age gap.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
It's fine, but not when it's a.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
Bit becomes a bit predatory, and like when it's your
mo on repeat.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
I mean, to be fair, I have no issue with
a fifty year old dating a twenty seven year old.
I have an issue with like a forty eight year
old dating a nineteen year old. For you, it just
especially when that is your only type and you're only
dating people who are under twenty two or something, Well,
that's gross.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
He's kicked off the internet again.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
So he just did an interview with one of his directors,
Paul Thomas Anderson, and this was for Esquire.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
You know Esquire magazine.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah, familiar with it. I read it all the time.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
Favorite mag I'm telling you because I know it's a
very famous magazine. So basically, during the interview, he was asked,
if you didn't know how old you are, how old
are you right now? So, like, how old do you
feel in this moment? I age taken away? And he
replied that he feels thirty two. But then he went
another step and he said, but emotionally, max thirty five.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
That's what he's saying.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
So he's fifty and he feels like he's in his
early thirties, and I think that that gives me the ick. Well,
people are coming for him, like, so this is why
you're only dating younger girls in your twenties and blah
blah blah.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
It's like another reason for them to hate on him.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
But I think the reason why people are coming for
him is because people. When I first read that, and
I've seen it going viral and socials and stuff, I
thought he meant it in reference to his dating life.
I didn't realize the question that made him answer that.
I kind of feel a bit sorry for him, because
that feels like a little bit of a setup. He
just answered. He just answered honestly, He's like, I'm fifty,
but I feel thirty five, and emotionally I feel like this,

(10:07):
And people are like, well, that's why you're date nineteen
year olds.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
But I get it. I actually really feel what he's saying.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
And I think when I was younger, and I remember
my parents saying the same thing, like I remember my parents.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Being I think it was their fortieth or fiftieth, and.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
I remember them saying like, I still feel twenty one,
like you age, but inside you don't feel the age
you are.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
And I feel like that now.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
I'm thirty eight this week, and I if you ask
me how old I feel, I'm constantly being like I'm
not ready for kids, like I'm too young.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
And it's because of course I'm almost aged out.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
I'm a geriatic pregnancy at this point, you're not outside, No,
like my eggs are almost aged out.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Not me like physically, not but the age. But I
feel twenty eight. I'd almost take ten years off what
my age is. And I don't know what that is.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
I don't know if that's because I don't have the
responsibility of kids and I am living this like this
life with a lot of freedom and spontaneity.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
But I feel for him because I get it. I
was like, I do, how old you're like it?

Speaker 1 (11:05):
I also date down and age I do.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
I'm currently five weeks from having a baby, and I
genuinely feel like I have a head hanging out of me.
I'm so uncomfortable at this point.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
No, I don't actually say how you feel, I mean
I'm old.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Well, yeah, I would say I feel I feel old.
I feel like my body hurts, my back hurts, my
hips hurt, everything hurts.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
You're the opposite.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
You feel like, yeah, I'm like fifty. I'm like like, yeah,
I'm having a hard time. But I would say that
it's only because I'm in this very specific stage of pregnancy,
like third trimester. Asking someone, so, how old do you feel?
When I haven't been for a walk longer than six
hundred meters in about six weeks probably doesn't really equate
to feeling my best. I mean, it's that old adage, right, like,

(11:45):
you're only as old as you feel. My mom says
that my nan said it until she was eighty six,
but like you know, it truly is. It's you're only
as old as you feel, unless you Leonardo and you're
dating twenty seven year olds, and then you're as old
as the media says you are.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
All Right, Well, anyway, let's give.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Le Nado a break. I think he's fine. I think
he's all right. I reckon he's fair game.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
Okay, we're talking about Taylor Lautner today, and now before
you ask, Laura, I know you know nighty here that is,
I'm going to set it up for you. Taylor was
the really attractive guy from Twilight.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
I did pook him up, and I know who he is.
Do you know what he was on Originally It's going
to blow your little minds Shark Boy. Yeah, so my
kids are really into shark Boy. And I was like,
hold on, isn't that that guy from them that was
like the Werewolf? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (12:28):
I know who he is.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, all about it.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Well, he's causing quite the stir online at the moment.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
He did an interview with People magazine over in America,
A bad a bunch of stuff, but basically within that
he said, because they don't have kids, he married his
wife also named Taylor.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
So Taylor and Taylor got married, right, I remember that
Taylor Lautner. So nice they named it twice.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
Yes, so exactly. And so he said people are people
ask do you have kids? And our response is, yes,
we have two. There are dogs.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
They are our family.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
They are our children, which I think is like, I mean,
he's got some photos there, they're really cute dogs.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
I think that's a great statement. Anyway, it is kicked off.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
It is.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
There is so many comments sides, like a lot of
people being like, yes, like pets, so I like your children.
And then there's a few people who had some pretty
like robust things to say. One person said, stop it.
Pets are pets, not kids. Don't make it normal and
stop being a sellout.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Wtf?

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Grow up?

Speaker 3 (13:25):
What you get from kids you will never ever get
from a pet. Anyway. It has just absolutely kicked off.
I have a dog and no kids, and you have
a dog before you had kids, and now you have kids.
Laura and I a cat?

Speaker 1 (13:38):
What is she? We're like a menagerie of animals in
our household us.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
What is your opinion on me?

Speaker 1 (13:43):
We talked about this on our podcast Life and Cut
Podcasts a while back and I said something that got
me into a lot of trouble, and I'm not doing
it again. Okay, I'm trying to coax you in time.
I have a eleven year old bull Arab who was
my baby long before I ever met my husband, long
before I ever had children. He's an absolutely angel and
honestly he came everywhere with me, He does everything with

(14:05):
me like he is my baby. However, I then had
human babies and I real babies. No, because I don't
want to invalidate people who choose not to have children
and they love their animals as though their animals are
their children one hundred pc. The thing is, though, is
that human babies are just more demanding. You cannot leave
your kid at home for an hour while you pop

(14:25):
to the shops. You know that there is so much
more time, and it's so much more energy, and just
so much more everything that goes into having human kids.
That I think when some people hear, oh, but you know,
I have an animal, so I can understand, it's invalidating
to the experience of people who are like in the
trenches of motherhood. Should we be comparing animals and children
who cares? Like who? Like, if someone wants to love

(14:45):
their pet like it's their child, go for gold. But
if you're going to breastfeed it, then come talk to
me about.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
If your breastfeeding it, talk to someone else about it, Like,
do not lay down a breastfeed your animal or maybe
do I don't know, you know, I think the saddest.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Thing things got really weird at three o'clock st afternoon.
The one thing that I do think is very sad though,
and I and I hate this and I see it often.
It's when animals go down the priority list when children
come into the equation. And I do understand that at
the start it can be really challenging. Trying to find
fit in everyone. But I think that there are a

(15:21):
lot of examples of people who are so cocked onto
their pets, love their pets so much, but then they're
you know, human children come along and they don't have
the same time, energy, love, or anything for their pets anymore,
and they get kind of just a bit discarded in
terms of priority. And that I think is really sad
because I think if you make a commitment to having
an animal and then you have a commitment of having children,
like you really still have to try and find the

(15:43):
space for both.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
Yeah, of course, but then I mean, I agree with you,
but I'm playing devil's advocate. If all of a sudden
you have this crazy life with children that you didn't
have before, something has to give, right And if it's like, sorry,
I have to get my child to the doctor or
I take my dog for a walk, you're going to
get your charge to the doctor.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Like the dog is always going to be the one
that goes down the list.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
And I'm not saying that to neglect it. Obviously, I'm
like the most dog obsessed person there is, But that's
also a part of it, which is why I think
we just need to take that into account if you're
gonna have pets and kids.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yeah, but maybe it's a timeframe thing. Like I recognize
that when we had so Marley came along and it
was COVID that we had another baby back to back,
like we had two babies in under two years. Absolutely
the level of attention that Buster got it went down
for a little while there, but now it's back, you know, like,
and we kind of found that balance again in our
family and our dynamic and everything. And someone is always
taking responsibility and if we're not the ones showering him

(16:33):
in attention, the kids are now, you know. So Yeah, look,
I absolutely understand that some people think that their pets
are their babies. But I think the reason why some
parents like find that offensive is because parenthood is just
so full on all the time. It's an unrelenting, crazy
experience that I think, you know, having an animal doesn't

(16:54):
quite equate to in some ways.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
I think we get too angry about stuff like let's
have space for both.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Also, why is it a competition? Like why do people
in Taylor Lautner's comments get so mad about let him
have a dash out for a baby if he wants
it go for goal one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Let the man, let Taylors live, all right.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Well, look that's it for us today
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