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July 4, 2025 16 mins

Shaun Micallef joins the show to chat Dancing With The Stars, we unpack whether a woman on Reddit has the right to dump cold water on her husband because of his toilet habits and Laura unpacks whether we should be using 'no-hit piñatas'

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Your work, our windows done, that's my world. Reason the
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
I've done much, but yeah, I know I'll big get
and what a lot.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
It don't matter where does? This is the pickup?

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Happy Friday everyone, you're listening to the Pickup with Britt
Hackley and Laura Ben.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
I don't want to be a mood killer, but it's
not actually a happy Friday for me.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
It's actually really sad Friday. So my husband Ben's been
here for the last month and he lives overseas in Italy.
We got married twice.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
It was wonderful, how many honeymoons.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
Three mini ones, but like only three days, you little
turd burger.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
But today's the day, Like we have had the best
six weeks of our life.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Like yeah, it's been really beautiful, like the happiest I've
ever been.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
And tonight he's leaving. He's going back to Italy.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
I thought he was leaving tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Well it's technically tomorrow, but it's two am. So for me,
that's nighttime, that is in the middle of the night.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Do you know how long it's going to be until
you see him again?

Speaker 4 (01:22):
I think the moment Tember, so September, So what are
we now, July August, like, that's a lot nearly three months.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, it's exactly three months because when you go and
see Ben, I'm having a baby, so I'm counting down
as well.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Oh what a time to be long.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
It's literally we have timed both the holiday and also
the coming of this pregnancy perfectly. I can only imagine,
especially after coming from such a high of having your
wedding to then having to go back to doing long
distance now, I can only imagine how hard.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
That's going to be.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
It came in so hot with Happy Fridays. But for
everyone else, happy Friday.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
But if you're everyone but Brittany, happy Friday. No.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
I do you know what, though, anyone who's ever done
long distance will sympathize because it is it's so hard.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
People think the goodbyes get easier, and I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
Maybe before I got married, I would have said they did,
but I think now they're harder.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Like I would have said, yeah, you do get used.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
To it, it's like whatever.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
But now that we're in a different chapter, I feel
like it is harder. For sure, I'm gonna cry like
a little baby. Well, don't do that yet.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Hold on to them now, Laura.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
I'm not one to usually want to highlight my competition.
I am currently on Dancing with the Stars. But if
there's one person I'm gonna get on this show to
have a chat to, it's Sean mccaliff. Now, if you
don't know Sean mccalliff, he's been in Australian TV for
a very long time. He's a comedian, actor, writer, presenter,
he's a lawyer. There's not a lot the man can't do,
and he can now add dancer to his repertoire Sean mccaliff,

(02:50):
my competition on Dancing with the Stars, welcome to the show.

Speaker 5 (02:53):
Ah, yes, Bruce, my nemesis, speak to you.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Too, sen to you.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
I do like that we rattled off all the successes.
I saw the quick step that you did. It was
very impressive. Do you think that you can dance now
and add dancer to this long list of success.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
No, I, in all conscience, I don't think I could
add that to my CV. I think it's like a
like a freak lightning storm. You know, it lights up
the sky, quite impressive and awesome, but then you know
it's gone in the in the blink of an eye,
and then you forget about it.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Johan, I, we were like doing our dance practice in
the same studios, and sometimes I don't know if you
know this, but I'd pick my head around and what
you practice because I was like, I want to check
what the competition is.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
I'm not gonna light I thought I was going to
be safe.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
I thought I was pretty good. And then first ques,
first week you beat me. You got twenty four. I
only got twenty one, and I thought, Wow, this guy's
pulling out some secrets.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
You're bringing a lot of comedy to.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Your dance, Like are you banking on that to get
you through or do you have some secret dance skills
you're gonna pull out.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
No, I have no secrets, no at all. That I
think that very first dance that I did was probably it.
Everything else that follows will be some some refaults. Gami.
It's an a four piece of paper. We folded it
into a swan, and that's what you saw in the
first show. And then the next thing will be slightly
more limp looking opera house, and then it'll be a

(04:17):
servs and.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
We won't know what it is.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
I got nothing left.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
This is the problem though.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
Was On the other hand, I could always tell, because
when britt did look around the corner, I made sure
I was really bad, just to give her a sent
she got too much confidence. Yeah, yeah, I did well.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
I was humbled, you know.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
But this is the thing that people don't realize unless
you've done it. So you get so much time to
practice the first dance. So often a lot of the
celebs have the first dance down pat and then the
wheels just stuff falling off the bandwagon.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
As you get further into the competition.

Speaker 5 (04:45):
Yeah, quite right. It's diminishing returns because you're guaranteed at
least one appearance. You guarantee two appearances, so the first
two are usually okay, and then as the Brittain I
will experience you know this Sunday, you know someone's got
to go. Yeah, it does get too serious.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Then what I will say is I'm taking a piece
a little bit.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
You were a delight to work with and watch, and
you were actually such a good dancer. But why now,
because I'm sure you've been last many times over the years.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
What's happening in your life, and you're like, oh, I'm
gonna put the tap shoes on.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:18):
Look, I think, in all seriousness, I think I probably
hit the point where it didn't matter anymore. I had
done I had nothing to lose by doing it. It
seemed like something that if I didn't do it now.
I remember reading about Christopher Walken, you know, and Christopher
Walken did that dance routine in Weapons of Choice. He
was about my age, he was about sixty, and he

(05:39):
actually had trained as a dancer in his early years,
and he said, look, if I don't do it, if
I dont get it on a film now, I'll be
too old to do it. So there was a little
bit of that in me. I thought, well, if I
can do it, it'd be good just to see if
I can. Anyway, and the habit done on probably the
biggest dance stage on television. To do it. In fact,
I reckon within two weeks of the show finishing, I

(06:01):
wouldn't have been able to do it. So I'm done
and dust it. There's no way I'm ever going to
do it again.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
This is good as get and you have to ask
yourself why not?

Speaker 4 (06:10):
I think when an opportunity presents itself, it's not like,
don't write the reasons why? Maybe say why not? And
you've probably thought, well, what else have I got gone on?

Speaker 5 (06:18):
Yeah? Exactly, Well, I mean I've done everything in my
glittering career, and you know, never terribly well. I think
that one of his dances mediocre.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Like I am, that's absolutely untrue.

Speaker 5 (06:28):
Did you get a chance? No?

Speaker 3 (06:30):
But you Yeah, I didn't mean that the right way.

Speaker 5 (06:31):
Sorry, do the same thing forever.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
I didn't mean what am I got going on? I
was speaking. I took that too personally. Sean and I
were talking on the show about the shows.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
He's got upcoming and stuff like that, and then he
had a time frame.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
I said that wrong.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
He had space in his schedule to do dance Digger Brittany.
The way I said that, I was like, Wow, that
came across like he's not doing anything.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
He had time in his schedule.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
But also, Sean, what did your wife think of the
whole thing? When you were like, do you know what,
I'm going to go away for thirteen hours a day
and start dancing? Did like was it well received. Was
it a moment of like, really.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
How did that go down?

Speaker 5 (07:03):
Well, she knew that I loved because I love those
old MGM musics, and she kind of knew that I'm
said that anyway. So she's always been very encouraging. In fact,
she's the one who who said to me when I
was a lawyer many years ago, she said, look, you
know you keep talking about comedy and comedy shows, and
you know, having all these opinions, why don't you just
take a year off and do it. I wouldn't have
done it had she not said so, it's all her fault.

(07:25):
And she was equally supportive, equally supportive on this.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Well, we can't wait to watch you on Sunday. And
I mean, although it might have been said that you
were technically rubbish, that was one of the comments.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Of no, sure, the judges you were amazing.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
And honestly, I watched on the I watched on the
couch with my mother in law and we both sat
there and looked at each other and we were like, yeah,
it was fantastic.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
We're your bigger fans.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
He's the one to watch.

Speaker 5 (07:48):
I'm looking forward to Sunday too, and it's one of
BRIT's Hurricane dancers. That's how she describes us.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
All of them are hurricanes.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
Thanks Shan, You're an absolute delight and I absolutely loved
working with you. And if anyone wants to check it out,
Dancing the Stars continue seven pm Sunday on seven and
seven plus.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
Thank you, Thank you, Laura.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
You guys might be familiar with the Reddit thread Am
I the A Hole?

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yes? I am. We get a lot of.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Content from it, doing a lot of content from that
through Are you laying down now? Britt give her? If
this was a visual medium. Brittany's actually just laid down
in her chair. She's say she's doing the rest of
the show today Friday.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
You give it.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Home, Okay, we'll hear this story out. Am I the
A Hole? I want everyone's opinions on this. So this
woman has been married to her husband for over twenty
years and she's been dealing with the same issue from him,
which I'm not really convinced it's an issue firstly, and secondly,
I don't know whether her retaliation to.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
This issue is justified.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Well, I do love to be judge and dura, so
hit me.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
So for twenty years, this woman has been asking her
husband if he can switch the shower vout of rod
you know, so like you know, imagine you get into
a bath shower, so you're standing in the bath. You
can either have different settings on your shower head, so
either the water comes out of the shower head or
you turn the valve and the water comes out of
your bath I'm.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Just like that butt shower.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yes, and so it can switch between right.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Anyways, She's been asking her husband for years if when
he finishes his shower, can he please switch it to
the bath mode so that way when she gets in
the shower and turns it on, she doesn't get sprayed
by cold water. This has been going on back and forth.
Apparently he will do it for a couple of weeks,
then he'll forget. She hates getting blasted in the face
by cold water. She gets upset by it. It's been

(09:31):
a real point of contention in their relationship, which makes
me think that they need better things to argue about.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
I know exactly what she's referring to.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
It is really annoying when you think it's on one
setting and it's not and it blast you with.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Cold w When you get startled, absolutely well, you know
when you get in and you're like, didn't expect to
get sprayed in the face by cold.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Water in the middle of winter.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Okay, well, can I bring you my verdict? Wait, I
already decided that.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
You haven't even heard her retaliation.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Okay, So, after twenty years of putting up with this,
week in week out, her husband saying, sorry, I'll try harder,
I'll be better.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
I'll remember.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, this day, she gets in the shower, she gets
sprayed in the face by cold water.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
She's freezing.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
She gets out, she gets a cup, she fills it
with cold water. Now her husband is also naked in
the kitchen. For some reason, it didn't go into details
as to why that he was naked, And she walked
straight up to him and she threw a cup of
freezing cold water in his face, and she said to him,
does the naked just.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Have to do with the throw in the face?

Speaker 4 (10:27):
I thought she was gonna throw it somewhere else, because
I think.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
If you're naked, it makes it worse if you get
a couple of water thrown at you, because it goes
down your whole body. Why are you shaking her head
at me, Grace?

Speaker 3 (10:35):
I think it would be better to be thrown waters.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Thanks Grace, I'm so good.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Yeah, because then no clothes get wet. Fair. Yeah, I
think you just be colder.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Imagine being naked and someone throwing cold water on your
entire body in the morning. Anyway, whatever, we're bogged down. Okay,
So she's gotten on to am I the a hole?
And her question is did she overreact or should she
just every morning that her husband now forgets, spray him
like you do to a dog when they do the
wrong thing.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Let me spray bottle.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Let me just go to the jury. Okay, I have
my verdict. Yes, she's the a hole.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
I reckon, she's the a hole.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
You're saying it's up to you to switch the shower
back when you're done, then it's equally up to you
to make sure the showers on your setting. If it's
that much of an issue that you're asking your partner
to remember to switch it back, it's an equal issue
for you to remember to do it. Like I think
for you to put that on him, you're just angry
that you forgot.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
You only that you forgot to do it. Like that's
so silly to me.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
She's blaming him for something that she could easily fix.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah, but then if you've forgotten something, you need someone
to blame.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
It's hard to blame yourself. I'm joking.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Obviously, I do think she's the eight hole in this situation,
even though I do like to.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Blame my husband for things he probably didn't do.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
But I think that the reaction that she's received online
is absolutely not what she expected.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
I think she was expecting people to be like, yes.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Get it, queer, the poor thing. You'd be putting up
with this for twenty years. You've been startled with Cold War,
and the entire internet was like, your poor husband.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
He's divorcing for sure, do you reckon one hundred percent?
Imagine what she's reacting over when she finds out he's
cheating on us.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Over the weekend. Last weekend, it was my oldest daughter,
Marley May. It was her six year birthday party.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Six years.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
What it is, sixth six? It's her sixth year, just
six on the planet. Yeah, she was six.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
We had a birthday party for her and we had
a pinata. I think the pinadas are just like the
most staple kid's birthday party. If you need something to
do that's going to tie them over for ten minutes,
and you also want to get all all these out
of your own house. You stuff a pinada, you hang
it up, and you let the kids whack it.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
For a while. I'm a pinard A super fan. I'm
not gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
You're a Pinada super fan.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Every year. I pinada once a year, YadA. People don't
know this about me.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
I am a secret pinata just by yourself for hi Pinada.
It is my family's Christmas tradition since literally there's not
a year we don't have a photo since we were
like three years old. Like our whole family, all my
cousins and Nannie's and everyone, pinard is every single Christmas.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
So I posted it on Instagram. Right there was a
couple of photos from the birthday party that I put
up and I posted one of my stories on Instagram.
I never realized that pinadas were controversial. I didn't know this. Well,
apparently they are. And the reason why I say this is.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Because not you, I mean.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Sorry, people like, just have some fun, let's go home.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
No. There was quite a few people in my dms
who firstly, the question was raised.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Around the violence of pinadas. There was also questions.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
About you're trying to get a lolly. You're getting a lolly.
I'm sorry, I can't even I'm gonna go home.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
I even listen. It is okay. Let let me explain
to you. And when it was raised.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Firstly, I did read one of these comments that was
sent to me and I was a bit like, oh,
I see your point, but I think it's a stretch.
So we always talk to our kids about not being violent,
right about like never hit things, don't hit people, don't
throw your toys, like behave in a way that's showing kindness,
I guess, and that's the thing that you always try
and uphold with your children. And then birthday parties or

(14:09):
once a year, apparently if you're Brittany Hockley, you get
your kid's favorite thing, like what's their most favorite thing
in the entire word world?

Speaker 2 (14:16):
A unicorn.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Let's stuff it, Let's fist it with lollies and then
give it a noose and hang it up by the
neck and get all the kids in the line to
smack it with a pole.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Now, this person, I know, I know, I know, and
I agree with you. I was like, guys, I think
that we've gone too far. The PC police need to
calm down.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
However, someone then sent to me that there are a
type of pinnata called a no hit pinada. So it's
a pinada that's been specifically designed.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
For parents who want to have no violence.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
It's not violent, wait for it.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
And it comes with all these strings in the belly,
and so it's kind of like a lucky dip. So
it's got all these different strings that hang down from it,
and the little kids go and they pull a string
and then oh, that one didn't do anything. Another pull
a string that one didn't do anything, And if you
get the right string, you go boom, and then the
belly the unicorn opens up and all the lollies rained
down on the kids downing underneathun does.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
No kid wants to pull a string.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Guys.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
I'm all for being progressive, but this is ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Like, just okay, hear me out. You don't have to
have a unicorn.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
Why don't you get a criminal a pinata in the
shape of a house and call it renovation.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Teach your kids young, we're knocking the house down, We're
gonna rebuild.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
It's an episode of the block.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
It's not violent.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
You're literally trying to have fun to it's like like
playing baseball. You're swinging about what we're gonna not play baseball? Like,
what's the problem here? Stop taking away all the fun
from the kids.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Okay, well you heard it here first. Brittany's against it.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
I'm not giving I can see that, and no one,
no one's ever gonna ask you to.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
I will never ever.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Give you a no hit pinada. I don't I can't
even believe they exist. Look, and I'm on your side
with this. I got the messages and I was like, surely.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
Now you'll be shocked at how extreme we are with
our pinada.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
We no, Brittay's got a pinata tattoo.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
No, wait too, hear this.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
We've always had multiple pinadas. We make them, and we
make them at different levels. My grandpi Are used to
make them so hard that the adults would have like
baseball bats that couldn't crack them, because he thought it
was hilarious to make it out of like proper cement
and stuff.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
So we would have like easy pinadas for the little kids.
Would have different levels to ensure that everyone at our
Christmas party got a pinada. We built Pulley systems. They're
on Pulley.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
Systems over the poles and stuff like we take pinata
ing so seriously, I didn't realize that this was yeah,
so I'm properly.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
I don't know that I was going up against someone
who was a fully invested pinada person.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
But he raised me. One of my best friends Laura.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Oh, guys, that's it from Uscow and enjoy your pinadas
on the weekend.
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