December 2, 2025 • 17 mins
Gen Z is apparently 'unemployable', Lola graduated from Day Care and Britt's theory about tv shows getting dumber is apparently a real thing.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
I heard podcasts, hear more Kiss podcast playlist and listen
live on the Free iHeart Appo.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Ben Radio Work, Our Windows Done, that's my world, Rison
the dust, only good labs all down. I've done much,
but yeah I'm not.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
I'll big get and what I want. It don't matter
where goes.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
This is the pickup.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
It's the pickup, and it's Tuesday, and we're feeling good.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
And we have Maddie j here with us.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I feel great.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
I feel great too today. Do you think it's all
the macarons? We just had what are they called.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Macaron that's the sandwiche thing with a feeling there you go.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Yeah, Maddie's been bringing macaroons in for us every.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Day and such a nice guy.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Look, I'm doing pretty good considering I'm coming off the
back of a big loss last night.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
But I'm trying to think what we you were lost
on a Monday.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
You're not going to get what.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Wasn't your virginity? A sorry? Thought that was funny.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Looks not your best. I'll be honest, I thought that
was really good.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
It's a tough crowd.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I have three children, so.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
That was why it's funny?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
It's so funny when I have to break it down.
There's someone in the cars laughing right now.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
I guarantee they're not. Hey, I lost. Sorry quiz quiz.
We had a Christmas quiz at our neighbour's house last night.
They had a little adult only Christmas quiz. Lost, and
I now know that I know nothing about Christmas. I
answered not a single question correctly.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
That's probably tough for you because I'm assuming this is
the same neighbor that you just came off a recent
win with for the Halloween costume dress upwards.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
That's right, that's right, same neighbor. They are very festive.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
They're got to keep you humble.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Actually, can I ask you one of the questions, see
if you get it right?
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Yeah, for sure?
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Which countries send the most letters to the North Pole
or to Santa Claus for Christmas?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Oh God, I feel like you would want to say
the US because it's the.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
One of the biggest.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
That's what I can tell.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
It's a trick question. I would say it's probably Finland.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
What China? China? Was that a joke?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
No, it wasn't. I was just trying to figure I
thought it was a trick question.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
So I just went sorry, but yeah, China, it didn't
do well, Okay, just sorry, condolences.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
No, it's okay.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
It's my group were like can you because we're in teams,
They're like can you, Like are you okay?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
What's the matter? And I was like, I'm trying my
hardest right now. Yeah, it's upsetting, it's tough.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Maybe we'll do maybe fun fact Friday this week is Christmas?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Can we make it Christmas theme?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I can do whatever I want here. You have to
pick up grace. That's on you, Matt.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I don't know if you've seen this article going around,
and I'd love to get your thoughts on it.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Wall Street Journal has released.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
An article claiming that gen Z is quote unemployable.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Can I be really done for a second.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I'm going to answer it. Gen Z is up until
about age twenty eight.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I knew should ask that.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
So are we millennials? We're millennials?
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Yeah, because we are. We have got five to ten
years on that got you?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, so we are we are the generation that is
complaining about gen Z.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
So where the generation is like.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
The young kids don't work, we can't trust them all
they want is work life balance.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
That's us.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Do you think it's just a rite of passage that
when you get to a certain age. I think it's
when you get to your late thirties you then start
to complain about the next generation.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
It happens every time.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
It is interesting and there is a reason for that.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
So when I did a little bit of a deep die,
there's a psychologist that came out and said that that
is actually true, and most generations have a habit of
complaining about the generation that comes after them. And he says, quote,
we tend to compare the younger generation to our current selves,
a mistake because most people are more narcissistic and self
centered at age twenty than they are at age forty.
(04:15):
That is part of development and maturity. So yeah, we
do complain about them because they're still at a place
where they're they're figuring it out.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
I always say, brittany comparison is a thief of joy.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Yes, yes, that's on a lot of doorstops and stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Write that down.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Do you when you see gen z is out there,
do you think there is an issue? Do you think
this is the one time when actually they've got it right,
and the next generation have no hope.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I wouldn't go so far as to say no hope,
but what I would say is their work ethic is
different to what ours is and what mine was.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
All right, boober, well that makes me sound old, but
I cannot tell you a day. I do not call
in sick for my work. I never have in the
four years I've been on AIRT radio. I think I
had one sick day when I was in hospital with COVID,
like you just turned up. I had I think three
sick days in thirteen years when I was working in
(05:11):
a hospital, like you just didn't do it, And you
didn't do it because you were like you thought of
other people. You were like, oh, if I call him sick,
I know the hospital's going to be short stuffed and
that person's going to do that and then the wait
times will be up.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
And you just thought of other people.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
But now, I sent an email the other day to somebody,
get this. This is somebody that works a nine to
five Monday to Friday, And it was like a Thursday
eleven o'clock and I got an email bounce back that said, sorry,
I have decided to take a wellness day, I won't
be responding. And there was a part of me that thought,
good for you, like you're looking after yourself.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
But then there's another part of me that thought, but
it's just a work day, like.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
That has a flow and effect for everyone else that
he's trying to work and contact you.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I think that's fine.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
I reckon, if you need to have a day to
recharge to be the better version of yourself.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
That's what a weekend is. That's that's why we's that's
what it is.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
I think you're entitled to sick days, and I think
you should be able to take him. But I reckon,
I was like yourself. I would always, you know, unless
I was unable to get out of bed, I would
drag myself to work. I remember being at a cafe
and there were other people who would work there who
were no qualms whatsoever to cool and sick.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I just reckon.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
There's always in the generation, there's those people who have
really good work ethic, and there's those who are pretty lazy.
But even now, I look at like groups of teenagers
and I used to be a little skater rat. I
look at the teenagers now on the e bikes and
I'm like the bloody.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Oh again, there's so loud on the flop.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Post, slow down, wear a home.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Yeah, it's just I think when you get to a
certain age, you just hate the young people of the world.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
That's just what happens. And to be.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Fair, like our gen didn't have a lot of work
life balance, and the expectation was that you did overtime
for nothing because you loved the job, right, which we
know isn't true and you absolutely shouldn't do so.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
I think the tide has changed on that as well.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
People have boundaries with their work now, which is great.
I just have a problem when the boundaries are just
because you don't want to go to work that day,
like that's cool. None of us want to go to work,
like no one wants.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
I mean, I take that back. I love my radio job.
But it's like people don't wake up and be like, yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I get to go grind for someone else for eight days,
eight hours.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
You know who wants to do that.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
I'll finish with this.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
According to research, eighty nine percent of gen Z workers
and ninety two percent of millennials consider a sense of
purpose to be very or somewhat important.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
For their job.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
So it's actually more of our generation, Matt that is saying,
like having.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
A per CeNSE of purpose for your every day to
day is important.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Eighty nine percent for gen Z that's still a lot.
That's pretty good.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Yeah, so I'm going to go into bat for the
gen zs. Can I say yea? Kids are all right?
Just stay off the ear bikes, Okay, Brittany. It was
a big week last week in the Johnson household.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Oh god, what now you've had dance recitals, You've had.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
I know, the tailor of the year is just jam packed.
But it was a big milestone moment.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
For little Lola.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
What happened?
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Well, for those wondering, Lola is four turning five next
year and she has, get ready for it, graduated from daycare.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
That is so cute that they have a graduation.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Do they get to wear little graduation hats and they
move what's it called where you move graduation cap?
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Yeah? But where you move a pussle?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:20):
No, it doesn't have a moment. That moment the symbolic
moment of because.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
When you graduate, you're supposed to take the tassel from
one side and you flip it to the other.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I thought that had a name or I went to Tafe, so.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Don't give your graduation hats to it.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
It's called the turning of the tassel apparently, Yeah, the
turning of the tassel.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
What I'm just like, they're running of the bulls.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Did you do that when you graduated?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
I turned my tassel real good.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Yeah, but what about when you're walking in the tassel
just turns by itself.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Is that not no, because it's a very gentle flipover.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
I honestly, that is the very first time I've ever
heard of that happening.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Too.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
That's because you went to Tafe.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
And also they don't do it at the Decare graduations.
I'll have words with the director there, but put the
turning of the tussel in if you don't mind.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
So what does a graduation look like for five year old?
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Well, for the record, in case people are wondering, everyone graduates.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
There were no failures.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Okay, it's not as if they say, sorry, Timmy, you're
staying back another year because you're no good and you
can't do it pooh by yourself.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
There was a bit of controversy though, oh is.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
It like there? What's the beauty pageant controversy last week.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
It was like like miss University.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Yeah on par so it kicked off on one day
in particular. Sometimes I tap into the group channel WhatsApp
of the daycare parents.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Some days, you know too much, too much.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
It must have been like a couple hours and I
was like, man, my phone is running hot and there's
about one hundred and fifty messages in there. So the
reason why it kicked off, and I would love to
hear your thoughts on this. Last year, graduation was on
at five o'clock in the afternoon. Yeah, okay, this year
they changed it to an eleven o'clock start.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
That's rough. That excludes all the parents. They can't make
it to eleven o'clock.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
That's the issue, Brittany.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
That's the issue for all the other parents who have
to go to work, and then if they were paying
for their kids to go to daycare as well, so
you're paying for that day plus then you have to
be at the graduation and then after the graduation ceremony,
which only goes for like an hour and a half,
you can't leave your kid then take it, can't you?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Right? Because like I would say, like I.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Pay it I'm like Sally, a little Sally. You're staying.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Well, that's the thing. Everyone goes home with their kids.
And there was a little park visit that you're more
than welcome to take your child too.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, five o'clock's doable, right for even for the people
that are in nine to five.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
You can make that. So we're people kicking off.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
In the people were up in arms.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
They stuck written letters to the mare, stuck.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
To their guns. And the graduation was at eleven o'clock.
But it was a lovely, heartfelt ceremony.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Do they go on stage and get like a certificate
and stuff.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Yeah, they had the little black coats and they have
they had the little hat and they then one by
one they did like three songs, great songs, really lovely,
is it?
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I hope you had the time of you? No, they did,
because that's everyone's graduate.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
They sung this is my boundary. It's a song about boundaries,
so don't get into my space. So it's a banger,
sure stuck the time of my life, absolute classic. And
then one by one they get up on stage and
they say, this is little Samantha. She is someone who
likes to color in and will miss her funny faces
and she's a great laugh and then the parents will
cry they have their photos.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Did you cry?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
I did? I did.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
I didn't think I'd cried at Marley's graduation, and I
thought second time around the graduation was going to be
pretty easy. But as my little Lola stood up there
on stage and she.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Had her cap on and she got her little scroll.
I don't know what the scroll is, but she got one.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
She's going to big school.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
And now she's going to big school. I can't believe it.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
But was she excited? Did they cry?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Like the.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Lola ground did?
Speaker 5 (11:51):
She wanted to go run off and they say wait,
come back for a photo and she's like, oh, that's
like drag her back and to stand there, and she
hated that.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
She's a bit nervous, but you know it was.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
It was nice And the best part is the best
part is Brittany, I no longer have to pay daycare
fees for Loala.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yeah, we were run of applause. That's gonna save you some,
isn't it. Spearfishing gear can bind now?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Oh my, I mean we got Poppy. Poppy is not
going to be in daycare for a little while.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
I forgot you had a third one, but.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
We're gonna have a little window of no day care
fees and just think of the savings.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Think of the savings.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Well, congratulations with Ale, Lola Bear, or is I like
to call a Lola Derby?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
A few weeks ago, you might remember I had a
little complaint, a little like rage about how I felt
like shows on streamers and movies now, which is I
felt like they were being dumbed down and I couldn't
put my finger on it. I complained that it's like
the writing was terrible. You always get to the end
and it's like they've run out of time and they
just throw and slap an ending together.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
I want to say, I remember this, You don't. You
don't really listen to me, do I know that's not true.
I'm always listening. I don't remember this particular conversation. But
is there something that you stand by?
Speaker 4 (13:06):
It is something I stand by. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I feel like it's a hard conversation to have unless
you understand producer Grace. Have you noticed like shows just
seemed to be not as in depth or you don't
have to you don't have to pay enough attention.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
You don't have to pay as much attention to them. Yeah,
I've noticed.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
As a few shows, but I thought that was maybe
just the caliber.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Of show I was choosing to watch. Yeah right, okay,
well whatever, I've noticed it.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
But I want to tell you this because it has
just come out that this is really a thing. So
Netflix writers have admitted that they have been given the
instructions now to actively create shows that it will appeal
to people that don't know how to put their phones down.
So basically, now it has been taken into consideration that
we live in a world where gone are the days
(13:52):
of somebody going saying, hey, let's have a movie night,
sitting down with their popcorn, no phone, and just watching
and locking into a movie. Like think of the last time, Matt,
that you sat down and locked into a movie without
having your phone even in the room.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Like, is that even a thing?
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Yeah, I'm pretty bad. My mum who lives with us,
she loves a little movie night, and I do like
a little like you know.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
The scroll, little scroll.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
But I think I actually think them dumbing it down
is part of the problem when they have to. But no,
because when you're making it like really dumb, then you
can kind of easily zone out. So I feel like,
if it's a complicated storyline, you need to stay locked
in and you you're engaged in the show. But when
you dumb it down, it just you know, it means
(14:38):
that you're not fussed about jumping off and going for
a five minute scroll on TikTok.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Well, that's interesting because you're sort of having a conversation
of what came first, the chicken or the egg. You're
saying that, oh, if they want to keep our attention,
make it better. But they're saying, we have to dumb
it down because we've already lost our attention.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
They're enabling me. Oh, they're enabling me, and it's their fault.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Well, it's because of the likes of TikTok and stuff,
our attention span is now. I think it's something like
three point three seconds.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
What's the producer, Grace, you'll know the answer. What is
the movie?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Inception? Yep, that's shock. I looked at you. That's how
smart you are. I looked at you a story your brain.
Thank you, thank you for You're welcome.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
Okay, Inception. Have you seen a brit Yeah, complicated storyline? Yes,
I will watch that movie and I will lock in.
I know that I have to, but it's.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Because you watched it before the jen the first time
before we were in this like.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Attention Shutter Island. Shutter Island guys.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Again like twenty years old, so that's actually it's thirty years.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
That's the thing. If you give people slop.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Well this is and I don't know if you've noticed this,
it's so annoying to me. So they've been writers have
been told that they have to announce what they're doing
in the writing. So what I mean by that is
it's so that when someone's watching the TV but they're
also cooking at the same time and they're on TikTok,
that they can just hear it and know. So now
I don't know if you've noticed, like the characters are
(16:00):
like rehashing what they've done, so they'll be like, Matt,
we had such a great date in the park yesterday
at ten am when that guy pass on the bike
and still our phone and they have to in their dialogue.
They're recapping the whole thing, and it's frustrated.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Again enabling very enabling behavior.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I hate it, and what it means is like I
think writers are leaving in mass Exodus too, because they're like,
this is a reflection of my work and it's terrible.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Actually, do you know what I think the big problem
is here. I think Britney is too smart.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Yeah, I'll double down that.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Let's stick with that.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Let's tell more Street Journal.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
You need to get dumber, Brittany, how I get down
to our level.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I know there are people listening right now that know
exactly what I'm talking about, and I think we need
to sharpen up.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Put your tiktoks down. Put your phones down.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Next time you watch a movie, honestly, leave your phone
in the other room or just out of reach a
couple of meters away, so you can't like just subconsciously
pick it up.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
All right, Mom, No, I'm gonna test you all to
do it.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Matt, you two, I know you're gonna have a movie
night this weekend. Put your phone down and engage with
your mind.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I promise I will.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Okay, all right, Well, let's get out the heat.
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live on the Free iHeart Appo.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Ben Radio Work, Our Windows Done, that's my world, Rison
the dust, only good labs all down. I've done much,
but yeah I'm not.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
I'll big get and what I want. It don't matter
where goes.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
This is the pickup.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
It's the pickup, and it's Tuesday, and we're feeling good.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
And we have Maddie j here with us.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I feel great.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
I feel great too today. Do you think it's all
the macarons? We just had what are they called.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Macaron that's the sandwiche thing with a feeling there you go.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Yeah, Maddie's been bringing macaroons in for us every.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Day and such a nice guy.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Look, I'm doing pretty good considering I'm coming off the
back of a big loss last night.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
But I'm trying to think what we you were lost
on a Monday.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
You're not going to get what.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Wasn't your virginity? A sorry? Thought that was funny.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Looks not your best. I'll be honest, I thought that
was really good.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
It's a tough crowd.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I have three children, so.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
That was why it's funny?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
It's so funny when I have to break it down.
There's someone in the cars laughing right now.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
I guarantee they're not. Hey, I lost. Sorry quiz quiz.
We had a Christmas quiz at our neighbour's house last night.
They had a little adult only Christmas quiz. Lost, and
I now know that I know nothing about Christmas. I
answered not a single question correctly.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
That's probably tough for you because I'm assuming this is
the same neighbor that you just came off a recent
win with for the Halloween costume dress upwards.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
That's right, that's right, same neighbor. They are very festive.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
They're got to keep you humble.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Actually, can I ask you one of the questions, see
if you get it right?
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Yeah, for sure?
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Which countries send the most letters to the North Pole
or to Santa Claus for Christmas?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Oh God, I feel like you would want to say
the US because it's the.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
One of the biggest.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
That's what I can tell.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
It's a trick question. I would say it's probably Finland.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
What China? China? Was that a joke?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
No, it wasn't. I was just trying to figure I
thought it was a trick question.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
So I just went sorry, but yeah, China, it didn't
do well, Okay, just sorry, condolences.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
No, it's okay.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
It's my group were like can you because we're in teams,
They're like can you, Like are you okay?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
What's the matter? And I was like, I'm trying my
hardest right now. Yeah, it's upsetting, it's tough.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Maybe we'll do maybe fun fact Friday this week is Christmas?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Can we make it Christmas theme?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I can do whatever I want here. You have to
pick up grace. That's on you, Matt.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I don't know if you've seen this article going around,
and I'd love to get your thoughts on it.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Wall Street Journal has released.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
An article claiming that gen Z is quote unemployable.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Can I be really done for a second.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I'm going to answer it. Gen Z is up until
about age twenty eight.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I knew should ask that.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
So are we millennials? We're millennials?
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Yeah, because we are. We have got five to ten
years on that got you?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, so we are we are the generation that is
complaining about gen Z.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
So where the generation is like.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
The young kids don't work, we can't trust them all
they want is work life balance.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
That's us.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Do you think it's just a rite of passage that
when you get to a certain age. I think it's
when you get to your late thirties you then start
to complain about the next generation.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
It happens every time.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
It is interesting and there is a reason for that.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
So when I did a little bit of a deep die,
there's a psychologist that came out and said that that
is actually true, and most generations have a habit of
complaining about the generation that comes after them. And he says, quote,
we tend to compare the younger generation to our current selves,
a mistake because most people are more narcissistic and self
centered at age twenty than they are at age forty.
(04:15):
That is part of development and maturity. So yeah, we
do complain about them because they're still at a place
where they're they're figuring it out.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
I always say, brittany comparison is a thief of joy.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Yes, yes, that's on a lot of doorstops and stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Write that down.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Do you when you see gen z is out there,
do you think there is an issue? Do you think
this is the one time when actually they've got it right,
and the next generation have no hope.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I wouldn't go so far as to say no hope,
but what I would say is their work ethic is
different to what ours is and what mine was.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
All right, boober, well that makes me sound old, but
I cannot tell you a day. I do not call
in sick for my work. I never have in the
four years I've been on AIRT radio. I think I
had one sick day when I was in hospital with COVID,
like you just turned up. I had I think three
sick days in thirteen years when I was working in
(05:11):
a hospital, like you just didn't do it, And you
didn't do it because you were like you thought of
other people. You were like, oh, if I call him sick,
I know the hospital's going to be short stuffed and
that person's going to do that and then the wait
times will be up.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
And you just thought of other people.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
But now, I sent an email the other day to somebody,
get this. This is somebody that works a nine to
five Monday to Friday, And it was like a Thursday
eleven o'clock and I got an email bounce back that said, sorry,
I have decided to take a wellness day, I won't
be responding. And there was a part of me that thought,
good for you, like you're looking after yourself.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
But then there's another part of me that thought, but
it's just a work day, like.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
That has a flow and effect for everyone else that
he's trying to work and contact you.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I think that's fine.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
I reckon, if you need to have a day to
recharge to be the better version of yourself.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
That's what a weekend is. That's that's why we's that's
what it is.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
I think you're entitled to sick days, and I think
you should be able to take him. But I reckon,
I was like yourself. I would always, you know, unless
I was unable to get out of bed, I would
drag myself to work. I remember being at a cafe
and there were other people who would work there who
were no qualms whatsoever to cool and sick.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I just reckon.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
There's always in the generation, there's those people who have
really good work ethic, and there's those who are pretty lazy.
But even now, I look at like groups of teenagers
and I used to be a little skater rat. I
look at the teenagers now on the e bikes and
I'm like the bloody.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Oh again, there's so loud on the flop.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Post, slow down, wear a home.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Yeah, it's just I think when you get to a
certain age, you just hate the young people of the world.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
That's just what happens. And to be.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Fair, like our gen didn't have a lot of work
life balance, and the expectation was that you did overtime
for nothing because you loved the job, right, which we
know isn't true and you absolutely shouldn't do so.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
I think the tide has changed on that as well.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
People have boundaries with their work now, which is great.
I just have a problem when the boundaries are just
because you don't want to go to work that day,
like that's cool. None of us want to go to work,
like no one wants.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
I mean, I take that back. I love my radio job.
But it's like people don't wake up and be like, yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I get to go grind for someone else for eight days,
eight hours.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
You know who wants to do that.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
I'll finish with this.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
According to research, eighty nine percent of gen Z workers
and ninety two percent of millennials consider a sense of
purpose to be very or somewhat important.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
For their job.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
So it's actually more of our generation, Matt that is saying,
like having.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
A per CeNSE of purpose for your every day to
day is important.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Eighty nine percent for gen Z that's still a lot.
That's pretty good.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Yeah, so I'm going to go into bat for the
gen zs. Can I say yea? Kids are all right?
Just stay off the ear bikes, Okay, Brittany. It was
a big week last week in the Johnson household.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Oh god, what now you've had dance recitals, You've had.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
I know, the tailor of the year is just jam packed.
But it was a big milestone moment.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
For little Lola.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
What happened?
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Well, for those wondering, Lola is four turning five next
year and she has, get ready for it, graduated from daycare.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
That is so cute that they have a graduation.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Do they get to wear little graduation hats and they
move what's it called where you move graduation cap?
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Yeah? But where you move a pussle?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:20):
No, it doesn't have a moment. That moment the symbolic
moment of because.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
When you graduate, you're supposed to take the tassel from
one side and you flip it to the other.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I thought that had a name or I went to Tafe, so.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Don't give your graduation hats to it.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
It's called the turning of the tassel apparently, Yeah, the
turning of the tassel.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
What I'm just like, they're running of the bulls.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Did you do that when you graduated?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
I turned my tassel real good.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Yeah, but what about when you're walking in the tassel
just turns by itself.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Is that not no, because it's a very gentle flipover.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
I honestly, that is the very first time I've ever
heard of that happening.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Too.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
That's because you went to Tafe.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
And also they don't do it at the Decare graduations.
I'll have words with the director there, but put the
turning of the tussel in if you don't mind.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
So what does a graduation look like for five year old?
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Well, for the record, in case people are wondering, everyone graduates.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
There were no failures.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Okay, it's not as if they say, sorry, Timmy, you're
staying back another year because you're no good and you
can't do it pooh by yourself.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
There was a bit of controversy though, oh is.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
It like there? What's the beauty pageant controversy last week.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
It was like like miss University.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Yeah on par so it kicked off on one day
in particular. Sometimes I tap into the group channel WhatsApp
of the daycare parents.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Some days, you know too much, too much.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
It must have been like a couple hours and I
was like, man, my phone is running hot and there's
about one hundred and fifty messages in there. So the
reason why it kicked off, and I would love to
hear your thoughts on this. Last year, graduation was on
at five o'clock in the afternoon. Yeah, okay, this year
they changed it to an eleven o'clock start.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
That's rough. That excludes all the parents. They can't make
it to eleven o'clock.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
That's the issue, Brittany.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
That's the issue for all the other parents who have
to go to work, and then if they were paying
for their kids to go to daycare as well, so
you're paying for that day plus then you have to
be at the graduation and then after the graduation ceremony,
which only goes for like an hour and a half,
you can't leave your kid then take it, can't you?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Right? Because like I would say, like I.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Pay it I'm like Sally, a little Sally. You're staying.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Well, that's the thing. Everyone goes home with their kids.
And there was a little park visit that you're more
than welcome to take your child too.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, five o'clock's doable, right for even for the people
that are in nine to five.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
You can make that. So we're people kicking off.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
In the people were up in arms.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
They stuck written letters to the mare, stuck.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
To their guns. And the graduation was at eleven o'clock.
But it was a lovely, heartfelt ceremony.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Do they go on stage and get like a certificate
and stuff.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Yeah, they had the little black coats and they have
they had the little hat and they then one by
one they did like three songs, great songs, really lovely,
is it?
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I hope you had the time of you? No, they did,
because that's everyone's graduate.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
They sung this is my boundary. It's a song about boundaries,
so don't get into my space. So it's a banger,
sure stuck the time of my life, absolute classic. And
then one by one they get up on stage and
they say, this is little Samantha. She is someone who
likes to color in and will miss her funny faces
and she's a great laugh and then the parents will
cry they have their photos.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Did you cry?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
I did? I did.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
I didn't think I'd cried at Marley's graduation, and I
thought second time around the graduation was going to be
pretty easy. But as my little Lola stood up there
on stage and she.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Had her cap on and she got her little scroll.
I don't know what the scroll is, but she got one.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
She's going to big school.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
And now she's going to big school. I can't believe it.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
But was she excited? Did they cry?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Like the.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Lola ground did?
Speaker 5 (11:51):
She wanted to go run off and they say wait,
come back for a photo and she's like, oh, that's
like drag her back and to stand there, and she
hated that.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
She's a bit nervous, but you know it was.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
It was nice And the best part is the best
part is Brittany, I no longer have to pay daycare
fees for Loala.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yeah, we were run of applause. That's gonna save you some,
isn't it. Spearfishing gear can bind now?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Oh my, I mean we got Poppy. Poppy is not
going to be in daycare for a little while.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
I forgot you had a third one, but.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
We're gonna have a little window of no day care
fees and just think of the savings.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Think of the savings.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Well, congratulations with Ale, Lola Bear, or is I like
to call a Lola Derby?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
A few weeks ago, you might remember I had a
little complaint, a little like rage about how I felt
like shows on streamers and movies now, which is I
felt like they were being dumbed down and I couldn't
put my finger on it. I complained that it's like
the writing was terrible. You always get to the end
and it's like they've run out of time and they
just throw and slap an ending together.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
I want to say, I remember this, You don't. You
don't really listen to me, do I know that's not true.
I'm always listening. I don't remember this particular conversation. But
is there something that you stand by?
Speaker 4 (13:06):
It is something I stand by. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I feel like it's a hard conversation to have unless
you understand producer Grace. Have you noticed like shows just
seemed to be not as in depth or you don't
have to you don't have to pay enough attention.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
You don't have to pay as much attention to them. Yeah,
I've noticed.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
As a few shows, but I thought that was maybe
just the caliber.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Of show I was choosing to watch. Yeah right, okay,
well whatever, I've noticed it.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
But I want to tell you this because it has
just come out that this is really a thing. So
Netflix writers have admitted that they have been given the
instructions now to actively create shows that it will appeal
to people that don't know how to put their phones down.
So basically, now it has been taken into consideration that
we live in a world where gone are the days
(13:52):
of somebody going saying, hey, let's have a movie night,
sitting down with their popcorn, no phone, and just watching
and locking into a movie. Like think of the last time, Matt,
that you sat down and locked into a movie without
having your phone even in the room.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Like, is that even a thing?
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Yeah, I'm pretty bad. My mum who lives with us,
she loves a little movie night, and I do like
a little like you know.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
The scroll, little scroll.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
But I think I actually think them dumbing it down
is part of the problem when they have to. But no,
because when you're making it like really dumb, then you
can kind of easily zone out. So I feel like,
if it's a complicated storyline, you need to stay locked
in and you you're engaged in the show. But when
you dumb it down, it just you know, it means
(14:38):
that you're not fussed about jumping off and going for
a five minute scroll on TikTok.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Well, that's interesting because you're sort of having a conversation
of what came first, the chicken or the egg. You're
saying that, oh, if they want to keep our attention,
make it better. But they're saying, we have to dumb
it down because we've already lost our attention.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
They're enabling me. Oh, they're enabling me, and it's their fault.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Well, it's because of the likes of TikTok and stuff,
our attention span is now. I think it's something like
three point three seconds.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
What's the producer, Grace, you'll know the answer. What is
the movie?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Inception? Yep, that's shock. I looked at you. That's how
smart you are. I looked at you a story your brain.
Thank you, thank you for You're welcome.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
Okay, Inception. Have you seen a brit Yeah, complicated storyline? Yes,
I will watch that movie and I will lock in.
I know that I have to, but it's.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Because you watched it before the jen the first time
before we were in this like.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Attention Shutter Island. Shutter Island guys.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Again like twenty years old, so that's actually it's thirty years.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
That's the thing. If you give people slop.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Well this is and I don't know if you've noticed this,
it's so annoying to me. So they've been writers have
been told that they have to announce what they're doing
in the writing. So what I mean by that is
it's so that when someone's watching the TV but they're
also cooking at the same time and they're on TikTok,
that they can just hear it and know. So now
I don't know if you've noticed, like the characters are
(16:00):
like rehashing what they've done, so they'll be like, Matt,
we had such a great date in the park yesterday
at ten am when that guy pass on the bike
and still our phone and they have to in their dialogue.
They're recapping the whole thing, and it's frustrated.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Again enabling very enabling behavior.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I hate it, and what it means is like I
think writers are leaving in mass Exodus too, because they're like,
this is a reflection of my work and it's terrible.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Actually, do you know what I think the big problem
is here. I think Britney is too smart.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Yeah, I'll double down that.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Let's stick with that.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Let's tell more Street Journal.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
You need to get dumber, Brittany, how I get down
to our level.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I know there are people listening right now that know
exactly what I'm talking about, and I think we need
to sharpen up.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Put your tiktoks down. Put your phones down.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Next time you watch a movie, honestly, leave your phone
in the other room or just out of reach a
couple of meters away, so you can't like just subconsciously
pick it up.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
All right, Mom, No, I'm gonna test you all to
do it.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Matt, you two, I know you're gonna have a movie
night this weekend. Put your phone down and engage with
your mind.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I promise I will.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Okay, all right, Well, let's get out the heat.
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