May 15, 2025 • 18 mins
ASK UNCUT: What do you do when you overhear a coworker bitching about you behind your back? Britt babysat her niece and made one (very small) error. Laura is debating whether she wants to be a No-Sleepover Family
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Risen the dust only good fab bugle down. I've don't much,
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testing pop in a lot lately, it's because we've been
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pickup of Kiss Britt Laura, we're here. Hi. Don't you
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Speaker 1 (00:52):
It's no, It's got nothing to do with a surge
in testosterone. I think I just am losing my voice
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Could do with the pregnancy. Maybe it's like the indigestion
and now Bernie's like popping your voice up. We were
talking about this recently.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
So you know, when you're pregnant, like all your ligaments
and everything relaxed.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Loose ligament, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Everything like your hmens, your hips, you're like everything in
your body relaxes, so you become more flexible, so that
your hips are able to accommodate a baby growing, gotcha.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
But I was talking about it on our podcast about.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
How I found it really hard to eat pineapple the
other day, and I was like, there's something going on
with my throat. Someone wrote to me and said, the
ligaments in your throat also relax, So maybe that's what's
happening to me.
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Might do some due diligence on that. Yeah, it's might
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Like she's quite mean, but there's no character. It's the
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Speaker 1 (03:05):
It now it is time for what we do every
week on a Thursday, and that is ask uncut now,
asking cutters about you.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Guys. You call in if you.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Have a big, dark dilemma, and we do our absolute
best to answer them. We have Eloise on the phone
and she's having a real problem in her workplace and
isn't sure how to navigate this.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Hey, Alouise, Hi, guys, Hey going this afternoon.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
We're good. How are you? What's been happening?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah, so I've I've been working with one of the
girls I work with for a few years, side by side,
and I'd overheard recently through the grapevine she had been
a bit of time talking about me behind my back.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Do you know what I said?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
And basically, she's just really unhappy with the job I
was doing. And we do the same job, We're just
as good as each other. She was just really unhappy
with how I was working, but didn't say it to
my face.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Have you personally overheard her or has another colleague just
said hey.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
No, another colleague she had spent time talking about me
to another colleague.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
That's rough. Cool.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Also, did she speak to just one specific colleague, because
that then becomes tricky because you can't be like, hey,
this person told me this thing that you said, because
then it just you know, everyone gets pissed off.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, I just have no idea. Like we literally sit
next to each other, Like it's really hard to navigate
when we work so closely together. I know that she's
really unhappy with me, but you know we own the
same wage, we do the same job.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
So do you think that she has said this to
anybody else? Do you get the inklan that has been
said to more people?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah, I definitely feel like it's she said it to
a few people, not for the one.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Either that opens up the doorway for you to be
able to say something to her. And also the fact
that she's talking to multiple people about you, I think
that poisons the well because all that's doing is it's
then making other people be more critical of your work
or look for the negative things. And I reckon you
have to say something to it. You get to pull
that out right away.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I think you just say I genuinely now that you
know she said it to more than one person, I
think you say, hey, can I chat to you for
a second. Look, I've heard that you are unhappy with
me for whatever reason. I would love for you to
be able to tell me why. And I hope in
the future, if you have an issue with me, you
come and tell me instead of talking to other people
about it. Because there are so many things wrong with
her talking like you just said, poisons the world. But
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I don't think that that needs to be an awkward
thing to say, Hey, look, can we just talk for
a second, because I've heard you've been saying this. Put
her on the spot and see what happens.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Also awkward though, when you have to go back to
sitting directly next to one.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, like when you say goodbye to someone and then
you walk in the same direction. Do you think you
could do that or is that too awkward for you?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I feel like it'd be really hard to sit next
to her again.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, what sort of company is it? Like? Is it
a big company? I don't mean, like exactly where you.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Got in retail?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Okay? Right? So you are, do you know what?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
And I run retail businesses, so I know this retail
can be so bitchy with how people interact. But I
also think that the only way to clear the air
with this type of thing. And I say this from
the perspective of someone who manages retail. I have myself
twenty staff that I managed through my other company.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I think you have to.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
You've got to call a spade a spade, and if
it absolutely isn't something that you can handle yourself, going
and speaking to whoever your manager is about it, saying hey,
I'm really struggling with this. I feel as though this
makes me, you know, it's really ruining the culture for me,
because then they're going to be able to do something
about it. But I would I would approach it first
and be and do it in a really non confrontational way.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah, I think that they're a great steps to take.
My nervousness is just that she loves a good gossip.
Then I think maybe I'm just a target that week
and it might just go around.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, I'm that also doesn't mean it's okay, Like just
because someone that is someone like, oh, she always does this,
we get used to making excuses for people like that, like, oh,
it's just who they are, which is a lot of rubbish.
Like even if that is who they are, that doesn't
mean it's good.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I think anyone should be able to go to work
and not be getting gossiped about, like that we shouldn't
expect or accept that as a normal.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
And like you said, I suppose I can always go
above if there's an issue.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I mean, I think this is good advice for anyone
because I think a lot of people feel nervous about,
like speaking to a manager about something. Those conversations don't
have to be big and dramatic. You're not dubbing on
someone and you're just making them aware so that they
can manage the situation. And most of the time, like
a manager is not going to go direct to that person,
say this person said this like you would hope if
you've got good people in managerial positions, they know how
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to navigate those types of situations if they come up
thing it's good.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
That it really sucks. I think we've all been on
the end of that at some point of our career.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, thank you so much, girl, that's really great advice.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Thanks Eloise, hey Bridge, just at the time you were
talking about a staff member, but they're behind you.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Oh do you know what ones? Do you know? A
funny story. I think a lot of people don't know.
But I used to work in the hospital for like
thirteen years, and this one time I was in the
emergency department and there was this doctor that I was
having a fight with high pressure. We were yeah, we
were disagreeing on the way to treat a patient. And
this was my world, right, Like, I get he's a doctor.
I'm in diagnostic radiography. I was doing a trauma CT scan.
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He doesn't know what it is. I was like going
to town on him, and I think I called him
a moron. I said, he doesn't nice. He's the doctor,
brit it doesn't matter. He wasn't the doctor of radiology.
They're very different, right, Like we study for four years.
We know that equipment, we know what you do. He
doesn't know that. And I was saying, he's requesting the
wrong thing. This is bad for him. This guy's a moron,
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doesn't know what he's talking about. As he walked around
the corner and I walked around, we bumped into each other.
Not only did he hear every word, but I said
it my noise was touching his chest and I was like, well, well,
it's true, that's what I said. Because I had to
double down. But anyway, the funniest story happened to me
on the weekend, and it's it's only funny for me.
(08:39):
It is definitely not funny for anyone else involved. But
my sister Sherry just moved home from overseas. Her and
her husband moved home, and they have a little girl, Maya,
who is about eight months old. I can't believe she's
eight months already. That's flown. Time flies when you haven't
fun at someone else's child. I think she actually might
be nine months irrelevant. So they've been staying at my
house until they like sort of set themselves up. Now.
(09:02):
I spent a lot of time with Maya, but I
haven't had it on my own. And if she vomits,
or if she's really upset and crying, or if she
does a pooh, Sherry and Ja just take her back,
Like if they're in the same room. I'm not gonna
be like, oh, I'm gonna go clean her up, like
Sherry's like, I'll do it. It's her baby. Whatever.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
That's so like, that's interesting to me only because I
feel like that makes you then like the fun times, Auntie.
You're like, I'm here for the I'm here for the cuddles,
I'm here.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
For the good stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
But if this child does something that I don't want
ill it's your child that I don't take it back.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
If it's if I'm babysitting on my own, of course,
but if Sherry's sitting next to me, I'm like, yeah,
you baby just did a turn. Everywhere you go change
it whatever, that's yours. So yeah, I was like, your child,
you made this choice, not me. Anyway, So a couple
of nights ago, they were really jetlag and I said,
just go chill out for a while. I said, let
me do bathtime and like get her into pajamas and
give her a bottle and like I'll get her ready
(09:54):
for bed because that's like a beautiful time. And so
we did the little bath and I took her into
my bedroom and laid it down and I was like,
had all the pajamas there, and I picked all these
cute matching ones, because you know, you care more when
it's not yours, Like I was like trying to pick
the cute little pink ones and whatever.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, I can't relate bon zippies. My kids wore them
just everything. I think one of my kids were a
bond zippy.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
To a wedding. Anyway, I got addressed, rugged her up,
fed her, put it in bed, nailed it, nailed it
like no tears, so smooth. And so we wake up
the next morning and from the other room, my sister
go what the hell? And I was like, what's wrong?
And she was like, oh, like she was making all
(10:34):
these sounds. She's like what happened? And I was like,
Oh my god, what's happened. I ran in and I
was like, what's happened. She looks down There is pooh everywhere,
like I am talking, It's all down her legs, it's
all through her clothes, it's in the cot. And I
was like, what happened? And she just looked up at me,
just look in her eyes, and she's like, someone put
the nappy on backwards. Oh, you gave her a nappy
G string. I gave her a g banger and a
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nappy g banger And do you know what the worst
part is? I knew it was a thing, and I
was really consciously looking at the nappy when I was
putting it on her. I looked at it. I waded up.
I was like turning it around and I was like, no,
this is definitely the way, Like this is the way.
So it was a conscious.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Conscious joice this thing that's funny because like, you're not alone.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Like this happens a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
We've had I've had friends but babysit our kids and
I'll come home then nappy's have.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Been back to front and stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
But the thing is it doesn't make sense to me
because intuitively, the little tabs have to wrap around the back.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Then I looked at it, It's does not make sense. Yeah,
I rolled her up on the side a bit to
get the tab on.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, but like, why would you think that that would
be a smart, intuitive way of designing a nappy.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I don't know what you're pooh shaming me. No, I'm not.
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I've always been shocked because I've come home before. This
is not a good telltale sign of a babysitter. I've
come home before and the babysitter has put a nappy
on back to front after our employees, I know, after
tell no, no, no, no, no another one.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
You know, an actual babysitter.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
This is after telling me that she had experience with
kids that age, And I was like, girl, you lad, you.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Do not know what you're doing well when you hold
the nappy up. In my defense, it made sense to
me to put it on like undies, like the one
side is bigger. It makes sense that that's the booty side.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I have a question, and this is not sponsored, but
what was it?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Oh, please is if I know?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Was it like a standard brand like a Huggies or
a Baby Love.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I got the impression it was like pretty standard nappy,
but I didn't even look at the brand cool.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
So just so you know, for future and for any
Arnies out there whoever get put in the hot spot
of having to.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Change a nappy.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
It says back on the back, like if you turn
it around in the fine pretty little patterns and stuff,
there's like literally the word back mustard.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Worn off, nothing food for thought. I oh, look, it
still shocks me every day that I'm thirty eight.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
That you like, as a new mom, you give birth
to a brand new, newborn baby and then they just
send you home. You just drive home in your own
car and no one supervises you this thing alive.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, you have more.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Supervision on your first day at work than what you
do is a new mom.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Like, it blows my mind still. Yeah, I was surprised
at myself. I did think I was a very capable woman.
I was like, I'm educated. I'm thirty seven years old, Like,
as if I can't do this, I've done so many
cool things in my life. I can't even put a
nappy on. So now I'm weighing up. Is it kids
even for me? Oh, gestion matter, It's very up now, Britt.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I want to get your take on this because there's
a real debate that's going down online at the moment
that's been sparked by some parents who were talking about
not letting their kids do sleepovers. And I say this
because I think sleepovers is such a prime part of
a kid's childhood. And I think back on our childhood
when we were little kids having sleepovers at your friend's house.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Lit Oh, I have so many core memories, especially not
even one on ones, like when there's a few people
that go on stover, like you would make the little thoughts,
or you'd get to sleep in the lound room, you
pull all the mattresses out like it was a vise.
Sleepover birthday parties.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
We used to get Ouiji boards like we were all
about it were I used to love a sleepover and
I have so many good memories of having sleepover.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Birthday parties and whatnot. As a kid.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
But when I think about it, I don't think I
was allowed very often to go and sleepover at other
people's houses. I think our house became the sleepover base.
We had a lot of kids come to our but
I don't have loads of memories of going elsewhere, if
that makes sense. And the reason why I wanted to
bring this up is because there is this current trend
of people and parents being very vocal online saying that
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they are not going to be sleepover parents and not
going to let their kids sleep over at other people's houses,
at friends' houses, or at acquaintance houses, or whatever it is.
And the reason for that is because of the increasing
conversations around the dangers of having your kids staying at
someone's house and not having them necessarily supervised in a
way that you would. You know, you don't necessarily know
(14:42):
who's in that house, you don't know what is happening
when you're not there, and from a safety measure perspective,
a lot of parents are saying no to it. And
the reason why I wanted to talk about it is
because the more that I read, and I don't know
whether it's just increasing my anxiety around parenting, but the
more that I read. I'm thinking that Matt and I
(15:03):
will be those parents who don't let our kids sleep
over at other people's houses.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
In interesting because you can't deny the fact that there
are things that happen, right like we do hear those stories.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, there's some hot there are more truly horrible stories
that are circulating at the moment from adults who are
telling stories about what happened to them as children going
and having sleepovers at other people's houses.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's dependent. I don't have kids,
so I imagine that maybe my feelings will change drastically
when I do. I think I'll probably end up being
a helicopter parent, Like I don't want to say controlling,
but I think that I get the impression I will
be very overprotective. Having said that, I think maybe it
has to come with some leniency or leeway with depending
(15:48):
on the situation. So if they have a best friend
at school that they've known for many, many years, and
you also know their parents really well, I don't think
it matters just how well the kids know each other.
You've got to, like know the parents inside out. You've
got to trust them. You've got to because I think
about the people that I stayed over When I was
a kid, we had this one core group of friends
that maybe five or six of us max that were
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friends like so tight all through school and we would
always all stay each other's houses. But all of our
parents knew each other really well. And I think that
that is the difference. If I remember asking to stay
at a girl's house once she was new, and I
remember my mom saying, no, I don't know her parents,
and I remember that that was the key factory. And
I didn't understand as a kid, because of course you don't.
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I was like, but she's so nice, and my mom
was like, you literally not going. So there was definitely
a rule on how well parents know each other, because
it's it would be sad to think of your kids
never experiencing those things.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I wonder if maybe it's an age, like my kid's
a young still, they're five and four, and so like,
obviously I'm not letting them have sleep rovers now, like
they're too young for that. I also think that where
we are so lucky in our little unique friendship group
because my girls have cousins that they're so close to.
Their cousins are all the same age. I don't have
an issue with them having a sleepover at my sister's
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house or at my sister in law's house, like that
type of sleepover.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
It doesn't bother me.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
But it's definitely something that I'm thinking about more and
more now because Marley's in kindergarten. Lollsstart school next year,
and it's like the friends or the friends of friends,
and I think I worry about this idea of the
pressure that you feel when well other kids are doing it,
and then you don't want your kid to be the
one that's left out. Maybe I've read too many horror
stories about stuff and it has turned me a little
(17:26):
bit into that helicopter parent. But I never thought I
would be this version of that parent, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
And I don't think there's a right answer. I think
you'll have to tackle it as you come, like depending
on who she wants to like, where they want to stay,
Are other people going there? Do you know the parents?
How long are they known each other? I would love
to know.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
How other parents across Australia are tackling this, because like,
if you have been faced with similar conversations, I mean
slide into her DMS at the pickup because I wonder
as well whether it's an age related thing, like maybe
my opinion on this will change when Marley's ten, eleven,
twelve and has more agency to communicate how she feels,
or maybe there are rules like you give your kid
a phone to take to the sleepover and if they're
(18:04):
not comfortable or they want to come home, they can
contact you. I would love to know how other people
are navigating this, but yeah, I definitely don't have it
worked out yet, and I really feel as though it's
something that maybe I will approach differently to what I
thought I had or what I thought I would as
a parent.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
It's tough one laws.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Well, look, guys, that is it from us on the show.
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Laura Burn Radio. What our Windows down? That's my world?
Risen the dust only good fab bugle down. I've don't much,
but yeah I'm not our big get and what I
want it don't matter where does? This is the pick up? Hello?
Happy that Wow? I just had a testy pop. If
(00:42):
testing pop in a lot lately, it's because we've been
doing so much talking. Just so you know. It's the
pickup of Kiss Britt Laura, we're here. Hi. Don't you
embarrassed if you have a testy pop? I just own it.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
It's no, It's got nothing to do with a surge
in testosterone. I think I just am losing my voice
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Could do with the pregnancy. Maybe it's like the indigestion
and now Bernie's like popping your voice up. We were
talking about this recently.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
So you know, when you're pregnant, like all your ligaments
and everything relaxed.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Loose ligament, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Everything like your hmens, your hips, you're like everything in
your body relaxes, so you become more flexible, so that
your hips are able to accommodate a baby growing, gotcha.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
But I was talking about it on our podcast about.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
How I found it really hard to eat pineapple the
other day, and I was like, there's something going on
with my throat. Someone wrote to me and said, the
ligaments in your throat also relax, So maybe that's what's
happening to me.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Might do some due diligence on that. Yeah, it's might
not be facts, but whatever, do you come here for
the truth or do you come here for some salacious entertainment.
We are not known for our misinformation, So let's just
like not sprout that. Hey, I know you're always looking
for a new show to get into. Do I have
their show for you? I don't know if you've heard
of Hacks. Hacks is a show on Stand that has
been around for four seasons, and season four has just
(01:51):
come out. Now. It's one of those ones that people
were telling me to watch and get amongst, and for
some reason I just didn't like. I was just like, oh,
I'll just it doesn't grab me, or I'll do it next,
or I'm in this show whatever? Is it a drama
or is it how to Hack Things? No, it is
about an older woman that is a comedian, like she's
probably in her sixties, but she's so funny and she
(02:11):
hires she doesn't want to. She ends up hiring a
really young writer to help with her comedy. And it's
just about the relationship they have. But she's quite like mean,
Like she's quite mean, but there's no character. It's the
first time that I've come across a character that you
can dislike and like simultaneously, Like she does these things
that you're like, you're such a mole, but then she
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Speaker 1 (03:05):
It now it is time for what we do every
week on a Thursday, and that is ask uncut now,
asking cutters about you.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Guys. You call in if you.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Have a big, dark dilemma, and we do our absolute
best to answer them. We have Eloise on the phone
and she's having a real problem in her workplace and
isn't sure how to navigate this.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Hey, Alouise, Hi, guys, Hey going this afternoon.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
We're good. How are you? What's been happening?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah, so I've I've been working with one of the
girls I work with for a few years, side by side,
and I'd overheard recently through the grapevine she had been
a bit of time talking about me behind my back.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Do you know what I said?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
And basically, she's just really unhappy with the job I
was doing. And we do the same job, We're just
as good as each other. She was just really unhappy
with how I was working, but didn't say it to
my face.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Have you personally overheard her or has another colleague just
said hey.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
No, another colleague she had spent time talking about me
to another colleague.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
That's rough. Cool.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Also, did she speak to just one specific colleague, because
that then becomes tricky because you can't be like, hey,
this person told me this thing that you said, because
then it just you know, everyone gets pissed off.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, I just have no idea. Like we literally sit
next to each other, Like it's really hard to navigate
when we work so closely together. I know that she's
really unhappy with me, but you know we own the
same wage, we do the same job.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
So do you think that she has said this to
anybody else? Do you get the inklan that has been
said to more people?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah, I definitely feel like it's she said it to
a few people, not for the one.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Either that opens up the doorway for you to be
able to say something to her. And also the fact
that she's talking to multiple people about you, I think
that poisons the well because all that's doing is it's
then making other people be more critical of your work
or look for the negative things. And I reckon you
have to say something to it. You get to pull
that out right away.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I think you just say I genuinely now that you
know she said it to more than one person, I
think you say, hey, can I chat to you for
a second. Look, I've heard that you are unhappy with
me for whatever reason. I would love for you to
be able to tell me why. And I hope in
the future, if you have an issue with me, you
come and tell me instead of talking to other people
about it. Because there are so many things wrong with
her talking like you just said, poisons the world. But
(05:13):
I don't think that that needs to be an awkward
thing to say, Hey, look, can we just talk for
a second, because I've heard you've been saying this. Put
her on the spot and see what happens.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Also awkward though, when you have to go back to
sitting directly next to one.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, like when you say goodbye to someone and then
you walk in the same direction. Do you think you
could do that or is that too awkward for you?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I feel like it'd be really hard to sit next
to her again.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, what sort of company is it? Like? Is it
a big company? I don't mean, like exactly where you.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Got in retail?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Okay? Right? So you are, do you know what?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
And I run retail businesses, so I know this retail
can be so bitchy with how people interact. But I
also think that the only way to clear the air
with this type of thing. And I say this from
the perspective of someone who manages retail. I have myself
twenty staff that I managed through my other company.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I think you have to.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
You've got to call a spade a spade, and if
it absolutely isn't something that you can handle yourself, going
and speaking to whoever your manager is about it, saying hey,
I'm really struggling with this. I feel as though this
makes me, you know, it's really ruining the culture for me,
because then they're going to be able to do something
about it. But I would I would approach it first
and be and do it in a really non confrontational way.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah, I think that they're a great steps to take.
My nervousness is just that she loves a good gossip.
Then I think maybe I'm just a target that week
and it might just go around.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, I'm that also doesn't mean it's okay, Like just
because someone that is someone like, oh, she always does this,
we get used to making excuses for people like that, like, oh,
it's just who they are, which is a lot of rubbish.
Like even if that is who they are, that doesn't
mean it's good.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I think anyone should be able to go to work
and not be getting gossiped about, like that we shouldn't
expect or accept that as a normal.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
And like you said, I suppose I can always go
above if there's an issue.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I mean, I think this is good advice for anyone
because I think a lot of people feel nervous about,
like speaking to a manager about something. Those conversations don't
have to be big and dramatic. You're not dubbing on
someone and you're just making them aware so that they
can manage the situation. And most of the time, like
a manager is not going to go direct to that person,
say this person said this like you would hope if
you've got good people in managerial positions, they know how
(07:19):
to navigate those types of situations if they come up
thing it's good.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
That it really sucks. I think we've all been on
the end of that at some point of our career.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, thank you so much, girl, that's really great advice.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Thanks Eloise, hey Bridge, just at the time you were
talking about a staff member, but they're behind you.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Oh do you know what ones? Do you know? A
funny story. I think a lot of people don't know.
But I used to work in the hospital for like
thirteen years, and this one time I was in the
emergency department and there was this doctor that I was
having a fight with high pressure. We were yeah, we
were disagreeing on the way to treat a patient. And
this was my world, right, Like, I get he's a doctor.
I'm in diagnostic radiography. I was doing a trauma CT scan.
(07:58):
He doesn't know what it is. I was like going
to town on him, and I think I called him
a moron. I said, he doesn't nice. He's the doctor,
brit it doesn't matter. He wasn't the doctor of radiology.
They're very different, right, Like we study for four years.
We know that equipment, we know what you do. He
doesn't know that. And I was saying, he's requesting the
wrong thing. This is bad for him. This guy's a moron,
(08:19):
doesn't know what he's talking about. As he walked around
the corner and I walked around, we bumped into each other.
Not only did he hear every word, but I said
it my noise was touching his chest and I was like, well, well,
it's true, that's what I said. Because I had to
double down. But anyway, the funniest story happened to me
on the weekend, and it's it's only funny for me.
(08:39):
It is definitely not funny for anyone else involved. But
my sister Sherry just moved home from overseas. Her and
her husband moved home, and they have a little girl, Maya,
who is about eight months old. I can't believe she's
eight months already. That's flown. Time flies when you haven't
fun at someone else's child. I think she actually might
be nine months irrelevant. So they've been staying at my
house until they like sort of set themselves up. Now.
(09:02):
I spent a lot of time with Maya, but I
haven't had it on my own. And if she vomits,
or if she's really upset and crying, or if she
does a pooh, Sherry and Ja just take her back,
Like if they're in the same room. I'm not gonna
be like, oh, I'm gonna go clean her up, like
Sherry's like, I'll do it. It's her baby. Whatever.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
That's so like, that's interesting to me only because I
feel like that makes you then like the fun times, Auntie.
You're like, I'm here for the I'm here for the cuddles,
I'm here.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
For the good stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
But if this child does something that I don't want
ill it's your child that I don't take it back.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
If it's if I'm babysitting on my own, of course,
but if Sherry's sitting next to me, I'm like, yeah,
you baby just did a turn. Everywhere you go change
it whatever, that's yours. So yeah, I was like, your child,
you made this choice, not me. Anyway, So a couple
of nights ago, they were really jetlag and I said,
just go chill out for a while. I said, let
me do bathtime and like get her into pajamas and
give her a bottle and like I'll get her ready
(09:54):
for bed because that's like a beautiful time. And so
we did the little bath and I took her into
my bedroom and laid it down and I was like,
had all the pajamas there, and I picked all these
cute matching ones, because you know, you care more when
it's not yours, Like I was like trying to pick
the cute little pink ones and whatever.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, I can't relate bon zippies. My kids wore them
just everything. I think one of my kids were a
bond zippy.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
To a wedding. Anyway, I got addressed, rugged her up,
fed her, put it in bed, nailed it, nailed it
like no tears, so smooth. And so we wake up
the next morning and from the other room, my sister
go what the hell? And I was like, what's wrong?
And she was like, oh, like she was making all
(10:34):
these sounds. She's like what happened? And I was like,
Oh my god, what's happened. I ran in and I
was like, what's happened. She looks down There is pooh everywhere,
like I am talking, It's all down her legs, it's
all through her clothes, it's in the cot. And I
was like, what happened? And she just looked up at me,
just look in her eyes, and she's like, someone put
the nappy on backwards. Oh, you gave her a nappy
G string. I gave her a g banger and a
(10:56):
nappy g banger And do you know what the worst
part is? I knew it was a thing, and I
was really consciously looking at the nappy when I was
putting it on her. I looked at it. I waded up.
I was like turning it around and I was like, no,
this is definitely the way, Like this is the way.
So it was a conscious.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Conscious joice this thing that's funny because like, you're not alone.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Like this happens a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
We've had I've had friends but babysit our kids and
I'll come home then nappy's have.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Been back to front and stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
But the thing is it doesn't make sense to me
because intuitively, the little tabs have to wrap around the back.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Then I looked at it, It's does not make sense. Yeah,
I rolled her up on the side a bit to
get the tab on.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, but like, why would you think that that would
be a smart, intuitive way of designing a nappy.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I don't know what you're pooh shaming me. No, I'm not.
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I've always been shocked because I've come home before. This
is not a good telltale sign of a babysitter. I've
come home before and the babysitter has put a nappy
on back to front after our employees, I know, after
tell no, no, no, no, no another one.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
You know, an actual babysitter.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
This is after telling me that she had experience with
kids that age, And I was like, girl, you lad, you.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Do not know what you're doing well when you hold
the nappy up. In my defense, it made sense to
me to put it on like undies, like the one
side is bigger. It makes sense that that's the booty side.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I have a question, and this is not sponsored, but
what was it?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Oh, please is if I know?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Was it like a standard brand like a Huggies or
a Baby Love.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I got the impression it was like pretty standard nappy,
but I didn't even look at the brand cool.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
So just so you know, for future and for any
Arnies out there whoever get put in the hot spot
of having to.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Change a nappy.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
It says back on the back, like if you turn
it around in the fine pretty little patterns and stuff,
there's like literally the word back mustard.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Worn off, nothing food for thought. I oh, look, it
still shocks me every day that I'm thirty eight.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
That you like, as a new mom, you give birth
to a brand new, newborn baby and then they just
send you home. You just drive home in your own
car and no one supervises you this thing alive.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, you have more.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Supervision on your first day at work than what you
do is a new mom.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Like, it blows my mind still. Yeah, I was surprised
at myself. I did think I was a very capable woman.
I was like, I'm educated. I'm thirty seven years old, Like,
as if I can't do this, I've done so many
cool things in my life. I can't even put a
nappy on. So now I'm weighing up. Is it kids
even for me? Oh, gestion matter, It's very up now, Britt.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I want to get your take on this because there's
a real debate that's going down online at the moment
that's been sparked by some parents who were talking about
not letting their kids do sleepovers. And I say this
because I think sleepovers is such a prime part of
a kid's childhood. And I think back on our childhood
when we were little kids having sleepovers at your friend's house.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Lit Oh, I have so many core memories, especially not
even one on ones, like when there's a few people
that go on stover, like you would make the little thoughts,
or you'd get to sleep in the lound room, you
pull all the mattresses out like it was a vise.
Sleepover birthday parties.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
We used to get Ouiji boards like we were all
about it were I used to love a sleepover and
I have so many good memories of having sleepover.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Birthday parties and whatnot. As a kid.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
But when I think about it, I don't think I
was allowed very often to go and sleepover at other
people's houses. I think our house became the sleepover base.
We had a lot of kids come to our but
I don't have loads of memories of going elsewhere, if
that makes sense. And the reason why I wanted to
bring this up is because there is this current trend
of people and parents being very vocal online saying that
(14:21):
they are not going to be sleepover parents and not
going to let their kids sleep over at other people's houses,
at friends' houses, or at acquaintance houses, or whatever it is.
And the reason for that is because of the increasing
conversations around the dangers of having your kids staying at
someone's house and not having them necessarily supervised in a
way that you would. You know, you don't necessarily know
(14:42):
who's in that house, you don't know what is happening
when you're not there, and from a safety measure perspective,
a lot of parents are saying no to it. And
the reason why I wanted to talk about it is
because the more that I read, and I don't know
whether it's just increasing my anxiety around parenting, but the
more that I read. I'm thinking that Matt and I
(15:03):
will be those parents who don't let our kids sleep
over at other people's houses.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
In interesting because you can't deny the fact that there
are things that happen, right like we do hear those stories.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, there's some hot there are more truly horrible stories
that are circulating at the moment from adults who are
telling stories about what happened to them as children going
and having sleepovers at other people's houses.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's dependent. I don't have kids,
so I imagine that maybe my feelings will change drastically
when I do. I think I'll probably end up being
a helicopter parent, Like I don't want to say controlling,
but I think that I get the impression I will
be very overprotective. Having said that, I think maybe it
has to come with some leniency or leeway with depending
(15:48):
on the situation. So if they have a best friend
at school that they've known for many, many years, and
you also know their parents really well, I don't think
it matters just how well the kids know each other.
You've got to, like know the parents inside out. You've
got to trust them. You've got to because I think
about the people that I stayed over When I was
a kid, we had this one core group of friends
that maybe five or six of us max that were
(16:09):
friends like so tight all through school and we would
always all stay each other's houses. But all of our
parents knew each other really well. And I think that
that is the difference. If I remember asking to stay
at a girl's house once she was new, and I
remember my mom saying, no, I don't know her parents,
and I remember that that was the key factory. And
I didn't understand as a kid, because of course you don't.
(16:31):
I was like, but she's so nice, and my mom
was like, you literally not going. So there was definitely
a rule on how well parents know each other, because
it's it would be sad to think of your kids
never experiencing those things.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I wonder if maybe it's an age, like my kid's
a young still, they're five and four, and so like,
obviously I'm not letting them have sleep rovers now, like
they're too young for that. I also think that where
we are so lucky in our little unique friendship group
because my girls have cousins that they're so close to.
Their cousins are all the same age. I don't have
an issue with them having a sleepover at my sister's
(17:02):
house or at my sister in law's house, like that
type of sleepover.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
It doesn't bother me.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
But it's definitely something that I'm thinking about more and
more now because Marley's in kindergarten. Lollsstart school next year,
and it's like the friends or the friends of friends,
and I think I worry about this idea of the
pressure that you feel when well other kids are doing it,
and then you don't want your kid to be the
one that's left out. Maybe I've read too many horror
stories about stuff and it has turned me a little
(17:26):
bit into that helicopter parent. But I never thought I
would be this version of that parent, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
And I don't think there's a right answer. I think
you'll have to tackle it as you come, like depending
on who she wants to like, where they want to stay,
Are other people going there? Do you know the parents?
How long are they known each other? I would love
to know.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
How other parents across Australia are tackling this, because like,
if you have been faced with similar conversations, I mean
slide into her DMS at the pickup because I wonder
as well whether it's an age related thing, like maybe
my opinion on this will change when Marley's ten, eleven,
twelve and has more agency to communicate how she feels,
or maybe there are rules like you give your kid
a phone to take to the sleepover and if they're
(18:04):
not comfortable or they want to come home, they can
contact you. I would love to know how other people
are navigating this, but yeah, I definitely don't have it
worked out yet, and I really feel as though it's
something that maybe I will approach differently to what I
thought I had or what I thought I would as
a parent.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
It's tough one laws.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Well, look, guys, that is it from us on the show.
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