May 13, 2025 • 17 mins
Things that sound really romantic but aren't, thoughts on kids with leashes? and is Laura guilty of Third Kid Syndrome?
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
High Heart Podcasts, hear more Kiss Podcast playlist and listen
live on the Free iHeart app. Good Pickup with Britt
Hockley and Laura Ben Brady or what our windows down?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
My world risen the dust only good?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I don't much, but yeah, I'll big get and what
I want.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
It don't matter where.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
This is the pickup?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Hi, guys, if the pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura Ben.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
We've been having a bit of a conversation about what
is like the most passive aggressive way to answer a
text message.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Well, this came off the back.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
There's been a research study that was done recently. God
knows why anyone would put money or research into this,
but they like poll they surveyed the nation and found
out you know, you would think that it would be
no message back or being left on red that would
make people the most irate that it's just a simple okay.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Though.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
The K message is the most infuriating of all the
messages that one could receive.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, because there's a choice, Like it's a choice to
drop the O, and once you drop the O, it
changes tone.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Okay is different. K is like you're not even worthy
of the full word, you're not.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Even worthy of the O. Also, what it is is
it's like it's a real go if yourself without having
to say it. That's what that is. There's so much
loaded into a K.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Personally, for me, the thumbs up is on path like
if I agree disagree.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
And I think a thumbs up is fair game, I
think a thumbs up is fine.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
If I got a K and a thumbs up, I'm
taking that K and being like, oh this is bliss,
like we're on good terms. The thumbs up to me
is like the same as saying, F you, you.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Would prefer a K over.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I'm pretty sure our boss has sent me a plane
thumbs up before. I'm pretty sure. I'm gonna go back
through my messages now. I'm pretty sure that that's like
a standard reply when I've asked questions.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
That's awkward because I get an okay from him, not surprising.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Abrit.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
The other day it was Mother's Day. I know you're aware. Yes,
that was just checking.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Do you know what? Though?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
It was very cute for me, like my two little
girls made it very special. My husband, he went out
of his way to make it special. But there's one
thing that I think we've been led to believe is
really just wonderful and romantic and sweet and makes.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
You feel like you're all loved.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
And I was sitting there whilst I was being forced
into enjoying it, and I thought to myself, am I
all my own with this? Am I the only person
who actually doesn't enjoy this at all?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
And it is breakfast in bed? Hear me out?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
You know, I don't have to hear you out. It's terrible.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
It's terrible. It is so overrated.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
You want croissant crumbs through you sheep.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I don't know who even rated it in the first place.
Like what mum in the history of being a mom
thought I want breakfasting. I want my kids to make me.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Some burnt toast and bring it to me in bed.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I get where it started because at the end, because
the toddler can't carry it, but at the end of
the day, the mum gets to stay in bed longer.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
That's what it is.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
I'm going to hang out here for a couple of
hours to breakfast ready, like you don't get to do
that any other day.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
So I get where it started.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
There are moms all over the world putting up with
the shitter's breakfast and the crumbs in the bed because they.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Want to stay in bed.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
This is true, to be fair, it was actually a
delicious breakfast because my children didn't make it.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
They went to the cafe.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
But what that meant is is like the day had started,
like I was awake, I was ready to get up,
and so they came in first and did like this
whole happy Mother's Day thing was so cute. I have
no way am I going to criticize the excitement of
Mother's Day. It was really beautiful. But then it was
like they remembered because there were only five and four
(03:41):
that breakfast in bed is an obligatory part of Mother's Day.
And so we'd already done the happy Mother's Day thing.
I was about to get out of bed, so then
Matt was like, okay, well we can go to the cafe.
So then the kids, he takes the kids. They go
to the cafe. They come back about forty minutes later,
and I'm up, I'm doing stuff, and I hear them
come in and they are trudging up the stairs with
the coffee and the bread and the smashed avocado with lemon,
(04:04):
and they're like, Mom's got to still be in bed,
so I had to run down the hallway, get back
in bed, pretend like I wasn't dressed for the day,
laying in bed, and then I had to eat my
avocado cold avocado toast in bed, and they sat there
and they watched me eat every single bite.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
The sacrifices you make sounds terrible, Laura.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I was like, why am I being torturing for being
your mother?
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Do you know what I think? I don't want to
trump you, but I want to add to it.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I this is not a competition, but I sit in
my page.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I don't want to be a storytopper, and it's not
a storytopper, but it's just something that I think is
on par with things that people think are romantic but
are not.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
A floating breakfast.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I can't say I've ever had one, brit.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I think I'd take a floating breakfast over it in
much no, Like you go.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
To Bali, you're a little hotel and it's always an option,
like you don't have to have it, but they when
you check in, they're like, hey, do you want the
floating breakfast?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
And you're like, yeah, why not? That sounds lit. All
of a sudden, you're.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
In the pool.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Your breakfast is floating away.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I have to tell Ben to stop splashing his long
limbs around because the pool water's going on the food.
And I'm like, this is actually not what I thought
it would be.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
But also mantree of getting into the pool at eight
am in the morning or seven thirty whenever I'm a mum,
I'm up at six thirty. I'm not getting in the
pool to eat my breakfast at six thirty.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
And you have to because you can't have a floating breakfast,
not in the pool. The only time you can't have
a stable breakfast on a floating tray, do you not just.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Put it on the side of the pool.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
You can, but you have to live with that that
you had a floating breakfast that wasn't floating, that was
on the ground.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Are you're gonna be okay?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I think the only time when a breakfast in bed
is acceptable is when you're really hungover.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
That's like being the one time that I've thoroughly enjoyed it. Well.
Look after really unpacking this far far.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Deeper than I ever should have, I've come up with
a list, a list of things that people think are
traditionally romantic which we should just put in the bin.
We should all talk about how they kind of suck,
and everyone collectively thinks they suck, but no one's saying.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
It out loud. Yeah, all right. Having a bath with
a lover oh terrible.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Add to that as well, doing the deed in the
bath in water. It doesn't work. And anyone that thinks
it's good and romantic and sexy, it's not.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
In the shower not bad.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah, but that's not We don't have to say I've
got one.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
This happened to me, not in a long time.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
When someone like thinks that they're an amateur musician or
something and they play the guitar and sing to like.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Yeah, I had things go.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
It was not bad, but it's like, what do you do?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
It's like a concept for one, like what do you
want me to do to remain unders at you?
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
My ex was a musician.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
He was actually very good, so I shouldn't I shouldn't
poopo him, but he would serenad me from time to time,
and looking at.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
The time, I feel at.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
The time I thought it was really cute, and now
looking back at it, I'm like, wow, that's kind of
cream isn't it Okay, something else that I think potentially
could be great, but you're taking a risk. Surprise holidays now,
hear me out. No, that's all right, hear me. I
know that there's gonna be people who disagree. But if
you are a busy person, if you've got work, if
you've got stuff, if you I'm talking like complete surprise,
(06:50):
get to the airport, a bag has been patched for
you. You didn't get to pack your own things. You didn't
get to pack your own tall trees. I think it's
really romantic in theory, but I think in practicality it's
kind of annoying.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I don't think many people are doing it to that
level where they're like meet me at the airport with
a bad klava on their head. Like I think most
people usually know, like, hey, tomorrow, you're in a booth.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
I think usually you've got like a day or two notice.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Okay, I have one more for you. Public surprise proposals.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Nah, I don't care.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
I love love, give me all the romance, private, public anywhere,
flash dance proposal.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
I would have.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Died for a flash dance dead, deceased, bury me, bury
me in my Leatheart.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
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Speaker 4 (07:44):
Hey, I'd love to get your opinion on something, Laura.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
And I don't know if I should admit this or not,
but I like completely eaves dropped a conversation the other
day when I was at a cafe.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
How do you just eat? Job? Do you just stop
your own conversation and then chime on in?
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Because I was there on my own.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I only do it when it's so evident that the
couple next to me are having a fight, And then
I'm like, oh, what's going on there?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
More sourcely than what's happened to my table?
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Well, I don't I don't know is that a moral thing?
Should you eat drop or not? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
But I was by myself, so I didn't have to
stop the conversation. I was with my dog Delilah, and
the tables were pretty close together, Like it's a normal cafe,
so it couldn't be helped anyway, long story short, A
woman walked past the street with her toddler, probably two,
I guess, I assume you're.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Coming here, fair.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Could have been seven, I reckon, Okay, if it was seven, yeah, alright,
like how little.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Like running around? Pretty hectic, but wasn't impeccable at running,
like learned to walk in then maybe in the last year.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I don't know. Okay, look they were small. I'm going
with two two point two.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Anyway, she walked past the cafe and then kept walking,
and I heard the couple next to me start talking. Now,
the defining feature of this wasn't a normal walk. She
walked past with her kid on a leash, so like, yeah,
backpack leash, backpack leech.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
They've made the leash just cute these days.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Though they had like a little monkey backpack.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
With a leash.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Well, I must admit I don't see it often, Like
it's not often that I have seen a kid on
a leash. But what I will say is when I
was eighteen, I moved to Italy to be a nanny,
and part of my job as a nanny, I was
given a leash when it started. That sounds ridiculous, but
I was given a leash, and that was my first
like insight into children. Right. I was only just eighteen myself,
(09:30):
but my child over there was fifteen monthsish, was just
had started learning to sort of like run walk and
they lived near the water, so I had to walk
the child on a leash. At the start, I was say,
walk the child. That's what I did know.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
You went for a walk with a kid and they
just happened to be wearing a leash.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Otherwise it's a dog.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
I walked to the child. If a child's on a leash,
I'm walking.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Just take a pre bag with the child. You just
pick it up from the side of the street.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
No, but it's interesting because at the start I was mortified, right,
I was like I had never seen this. I was like,
this is so embarrassing that I'm walking this kid on
a leash because I was.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Associating it with a dog.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Right then, after a couple of months, it was the
best thing that anyone could.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Have given to me with that kid, because this kid
was like running a million miles an hour.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Italy is all full of cobblestone streets, like it's easy
to be falling over, tripping over, tumbling in the water.
This kid was quick, and I learned to love the leash.
But this couple next to me, and this is why
I was eavesdropping. They were just like mortified. They were
slamming this woman, not to a face, to each other.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Oh it's fine when it's behind someone's back.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Totally, and it really got me thinking. I was like,
hang on, even though I found that least really practical
when I was eighteen spoiler, that's a long time ago.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
I'm thirty seven.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Now, what do you think as a mum about walking
with a kid on a leash?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
When I was younger, I would have thought it was
a bit humiliating, and also I didn't quite understand why
someone would do it. Well, you can't put a six
year old on a leash, No, there's an age limit,
of course, but also it's like.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
An eighteen year old at their graduation and.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
You walk okay.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
No.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
My thing, though, is being a nineteen year old or
an eighteen year old and being put in charge of nannying,
Like that's really young. Like I would say, that's really
young to be given the full responsibility there's a reason
why they have done that.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
It's not just for the kids safety.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
It's so that they feel a sense of security that
you have control over that child. Like I probably wouldn't
feel as though I needed to for someone who had
a lot of experience with kids, but an eighteen year old,
I think there's probably even more of a reason why
they asked you to do it at that age.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
No, what I found is, and I found this really interesting.
It became so good to use. It's almost like a
bungee cord. When the kid would trip or fall, you
just quickly pull it a little bit and they just
don't touch the ground, but they bungee. They would bunge
you back up.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
By but hang on.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
It taught the kid going sorry, yeah, because it's like
a double edged sword.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
It was amazing.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
They didn't hurt themselves and I didn't know as child,
but it didn't teach them like any fear. So they
because there wasn't any repercussions of running and tripping or
not being careful because they didn't ever hit the ground
because I was always bungee courting them around, So they
just became a little bit more reckless.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
So it's sort of like a ended up working against itself.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
There are so many kids out there who are quote
unquote runners, especially at like runners three years old. No,
they just you put them down on the ground and cook.
They're off and it's like you turn around two seconds
later and your kid's gone, especially if you're near a
busy road or you're like at a shopping center or
at a fair. I don't know that there's reasons why
people would do it. I just wouldn't criticize another person's
parenting or why they're choosing to do something. They know
(12:31):
their kid better than I do, So like, let them
put them on a lead if they need to.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
You could get one of those ones that attach to
each other and have three.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah, I'm gonna need the ones I'm going to need.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Let the dog walker lead. That will be mine, and
I'll have one for each child. If they said luckily
one of them will be in a PRAM for a
long time now, Britt, it will. I'm sure it comes
as no surprise to anyone who's been listening to the
show for the last couple of weeks. I'm up the
daff Everyone have a number three kid so we have.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Thanks for specifying what's up there that it is in
fact a human.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Trial, it's a job.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
So we already have two daughters, Marley and Lola, five
and four, and there's gonna be quite a gap between
Lola and the third child, so five years by the
time this baby's born the.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Third daughter too.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, three girls. But I kind of feel like.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Because Maley and Lola were born very quickly, like it
was in a quick succession. We had Marley and then
nineteen twenty months later we had Lola. It was also
during COVID, and it was just a different time and
both of those girls got the same introduction to life.
Like we lived in the same apartment. They ended up
sharing a room and they have been tight. They had
like a really cute little nursery which they had together. Yeah,
(13:36):
and I feel like they have kind of had a
very similar childhood that's been replicated one and two, whereas
number three. I feel a little bit more relaxed this
time round. And let me tell you, for the first one,
I had everything. I had everything planned and put away
before she was born. I had the nursery and the
change table and all the toys, and it was just
(13:57):
like a really beautiful space before the baby was born
esthetically pleasing, it was instagram worthy on point Yeah. Yeah,
number three twenty weeks off, couldn't get it.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, pretty much. Is That's where I'm going.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
The things that I thought once upon a time that
you needed to have a baby, and the preparation that
I put in for one and two has completely gone
out the window for number three. And I don't know
whether it's because I'm just more relaxed, or whether it's
because I realize that actually kids don't need as many
things as you think they do, or whether it's just
because I careless why.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I hope it's not that one.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
For the sake of as child, I would say it's
a multitude of all of them.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
If you think about the difference.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Right when you're about to have your first child, you
have zero idea about anything, like nothing, what you need,
what you have to do to keep them alive, Like
you over prepare, you over prepared.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
But it's like anything in life. If you don't know
you're going prepared now, you don't really need to do that.
And also you don't need.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
To go by the toys you've got. They've got two
older sisters, You've got so much shit at home. You
know nothing's going to happen. So I guess you're a
bit like hands behind your head reclining on the beach chair.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Like what the problem is, we actually don't have a
lot of that stuff anymore because we've got a We
got rid of it because their kids are so old.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
We've got rid of all in you bonn stuff.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
But I do remember Lola sleeping in the hallway for
a while. She did did this sound like she had
a luxury nursery. She slept in mine now hallway.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
She lived in a portercot in the hallway for a
period of time, but that was only until she got
transferred into her own bedroom.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Now that worked.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Fine for us, like she survived. But I feel like
I've pushed, at one point further for this child. So
we have a room that could be designated as the nursery.
But I also think it's kind of just a waste
of a room because babies don't use the nursery to
start with, Like they just don't.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
They sleep in a basinet by your bed.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
It is as I think, personally, there is no need
for a newborn baby to have their own bedroom.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
They'll never use it.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
If you turn it into a nightclub.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
No, I've turned it into an exercise room for me
so that I can have a pilates mat. I can
just have some space to have a little bit of
piece and quiet to myself. Because we have a full house,
mother in law, two kids, husband, massive forty kilo dog. Like,
there's nowhere else to go and that's my sanctuary.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I think if you girl, math the shit out of this,
I think that that is in fact you being a
good mum, because be a good mum, you need to
feel good, you need to have.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Time on your own, and you need to exercise. So
essentially you're doing this maybe a favor by putting her
in a court in the hall.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I do think that potentially I am running the risk
of becoming a little bit too relaxed with this pregnancy.
And I say that because we are so twenty weeks.
You have your twenty weeks scan right where they do
the anatomy and they check out all the measurements and
everything and they make sure that things are going to plan.
So the other day I looked at my calendar and
this week I have my appointment with my obstrician. It's
(16:39):
literally in a day and Matt was like, Oh, what's
that one for? And I was like, Oh, it's for
the results for the twenty week scan. And he's like,
have your habs? Did you go and have the scan?
I completely forgot to book the twenty week scan. We
are twenty weeks and I haven't done it yet, and
now I have to rearrange everything so that can go
and get a scan done to make sure everything's fine.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
I am too relaxed, But imagine turning up to get
your results and he's.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Like, you did lie? You haven't not scared to be fair.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
It reminds me of the time where I went and
I got a patsmre and then two months later I
booked in for a perhaps mean and my doctor was like, why.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Are you back?
Speaker 4 (17:11):
She's like, your secret.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I just really enjoy papson. All right, guys, That is
it from us today.
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
My world risen the dust only good?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I don't much, but yeah, I'll big get and what
I want.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
It don't matter where.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
This is the pickup?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Hi, guys, if the pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura Ben.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
We've been having a bit of a conversation about what
is like the most passive aggressive way to answer a
text message.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Well, this came off the back.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
There's been a research study that was done recently. God
knows why anyone would put money or research into this,
but they like poll they surveyed the nation and found
out you know, you would think that it would be
no message back or being left on red that would
make people the most irate that it's just a simple okay.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Though.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
The K message is the most infuriating of all the
messages that one could receive.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, because there's a choice, Like it's a choice to
drop the O, and once you drop the O, it
changes tone.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Okay is different. K is like you're not even worthy
of the full word, you're not.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Even worthy of the O. Also, what it is is
it's like it's a real go if yourself without having
to say it. That's what that is. There's so much
loaded into a K.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Personally, for me, the thumbs up is on path like
if I agree disagree.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
And I think a thumbs up is fair game, I
think a thumbs up is fine.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
If I got a K and a thumbs up, I'm
taking that K and being like, oh this is bliss,
like we're on good terms. The thumbs up to me
is like the same as saying, F you, you.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Would prefer a K over.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I'm pretty sure our boss has sent me a plane
thumbs up before. I'm pretty sure. I'm gonna go back
through my messages now. I'm pretty sure that that's like
a standard reply when I've asked questions.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
That's awkward because I get an okay from him, not surprising.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Abrit.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
The other day it was Mother's Day. I know you're aware. Yes,
that was just checking.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Do you know what? Though?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
It was very cute for me, like my two little
girls made it very special. My husband, he went out
of his way to make it special. But there's one
thing that I think we've been led to believe is
really just wonderful and romantic and sweet and makes.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
You feel like you're all loved.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
And I was sitting there whilst I was being forced
into enjoying it, and I thought to myself, am I
all my own with this? Am I the only person
who actually doesn't enjoy this at all?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
And it is breakfast in bed? Hear me out?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
You know, I don't have to hear you out. It's terrible.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
It's terrible. It is so overrated.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
You want croissant crumbs through you sheep.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I don't know who even rated it in the first place.
Like what mum in the history of being a mom
thought I want breakfasting. I want my kids to make me.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Some burnt toast and bring it to me in bed.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I get where it started because at the end, because
the toddler can't carry it, but at the end of
the day, the mum gets to stay in bed longer.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
That's what it is.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
I'm going to hang out here for a couple of
hours to breakfast ready, like you don't get to do
that any other day.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
So I get where it started.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
There are moms all over the world putting up with
the shitter's breakfast and the crumbs in the bed because they.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Want to stay in bed.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
This is true, to be fair, it was actually a
delicious breakfast because my children didn't make it.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
They went to the cafe.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
But what that meant is is like the day had started,
like I was awake, I was ready to get up,
and so they came in first and did like this
whole happy Mother's Day thing was so cute. I have
no way am I going to criticize the excitement of
Mother's Day. It was really beautiful. But then it was
like they remembered because there were only five and four
(03:41):
that breakfast in bed is an obligatory part of Mother's Day.
And so we'd already done the happy Mother's Day thing.
I was about to get out of bed, so then
Matt was like, okay, well we can go to the cafe.
So then the kids, he takes the kids. They go
to the cafe. They come back about forty minutes later,
and I'm up, I'm doing stuff, and I hear them
come in and they are trudging up the stairs with
the coffee and the bread and the smashed avocado with lemon,
(04:04):
and they're like, Mom's got to still be in bed,
so I had to run down the hallway, get back
in bed, pretend like I wasn't dressed for the day,
laying in bed, and then I had to eat my
avocado cold avocado toast in bed, and they sat there
and they watched me eat every single bite.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
The sacrifices you make sounds terrible, Laura.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I was like, why am I being torturing for being
your mother?
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Do you know what I think? I don't want to
trump you, but I want to add to it.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I this is not a competition, but I sit in
my page.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I don't want to be a storytopper, and it's not
a storytopper, but it's just something that I think is
on par with things that people think are romantic but
are not.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
A floating breakfast.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I can't say I've ever had one, brit.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I think I'd take a floating breakfast over it in
much no, Like you go.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
To Bali, you're a little hotel and it's always an option,
like you don't have to have it, but they when
you check in, they're like, hey, do you want the
floating breakfast?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
And you're like, yeah, why not? That sounds lit. All
of a sudden, you're.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
In the pool.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Your breakfast is floating away.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I have to tell Ben to stop splashing his long
limbs around because the pool water's going on the food.
And I'm like, this is actually not what I thought
it would be.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
But also mantree of getting into the pool at eight
am in the morning or seven thirty whenever I'm a mum,
I'm up at six thirty. I'm not getting in the
pool to eat my breakfast at six thirty.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
And you have to because you can't have a floating breakfast,
not in the pool. The only time you can't have
a stable breakfast on a floating tray, do you not just.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Put it on the side of the pool.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
You can, but you have to live with that that
you had a floating breakfast that wasn't floating, that was
on the ground.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Are you're gonna be okay?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I think the only time when a breakfast in bed
is acceptable is when you're really hungover.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
That's like being the one time that I've thoroughly enjoyed it. Well.
Look after really unpacking this far far.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Deeper than I ever should have, I've come up with
a list, a list of things that people think are
traditionally romantic which we should just put in the bin.
We should all talk about how they kind of suck,
and everyone collectively thinks they suck, but no one's saying.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
It out loud. Yeah, all right. Having a bath with
a lover oh terrible.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Add to that as well, doing the deed in the
bath in water. It doesn't work. And anyone that thinks
it's good and romantic and sexy, it's not.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
In the shower not bad.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah, but that's not We don't have to say I've
got one.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
This happened to me, not in a long time.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
When someone like thinks that they're an amateur musician or
something and they play the guitar and sing to like.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Yeah, I had things go.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
It was not bad, but it's like, what do you do?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
It's like a concept for one, like what do you
want me to do to remain unders at you?
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
My ex was a musician.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
He was actually very good, so I shouldn't I shouldn't
poopo him, but he would serenad me from time to time,
and looking at.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
The time, I feel at.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
The time I thought it was really cute, and now
looking back at it, I'm like, wow, that's kind of
cream isn't it Okay, something else that I think potentially
could be great, but you're taking a risk. Surprise holidays now,
hear me out. No, that's all right, hear me. I
know that there's gonna be people who disagree. But if
you are a busy person, if you've got work, if
you've got stuff, if you I'm talking like complete surprise,
(06:50):
get to the airport, a bag has been patched for
you. You didn't get to pack your own things. You didn't
get to pack your own tall trees. I think it's
really romantic in theory, but I think in practicality it's
kind of annoying.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I don't think many people are doing it to that
level where they're like meet me at the airport with
a bad klava on their head. Like I think most
people usually know, like, hey, tomorrow, you're in a booth.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
I think usually you've got like a day or two notice.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Okay, I have one more for you. Public surprise proposals.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Nah, I don't care.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
I love love, give me all the romance, private, public anywhere,
flash dance proposal.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
I would have.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Died for a flash dance dead, deceased, bury me, bury
me in my Leatheart.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
It's the Peckout with Britt Hackley and Laura Burn.
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You can head on into Chemists Warehouse because the Mayhem
sale is on now. Stock up and save and shop
half price cosmetics and vitamins at Chemists Warehouse. If you
need to get your makeup and stuff, go and stock
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Speaker 4 (07:44):
Hey, I'd love to get your opinion on something, Laura.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
And I don't know if I should admit this or not,
but I like completely eaves dropped a conversation the other
day when I was at a cafe.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
How do you just eat? Job? Do you just stop
your own conversation and then chime on in?
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Because I was there on my own.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I only do it when it's so evident that the
couple next to me are having a fight, And then
I'm like, oh, what's going on there?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
More sourcely than what's happened to my table?
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Well, I don't I don't know is that a moral thing?
Should you eat drop or not? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
But I was by myself, so I didn't have to
stop the conversation. I was with my dog Delilah, and
the tables were pretty close together, Like it's a normal cafe,
so it couldn't be helped anyway, long story short, A
woman walked past the street with her toddler, probably two,
I guess, I assume you're.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Coming here, fair.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Could have been seven, I reckon, Okay, if it was seven, yeah, alright,
like how little.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Like running around? Pretty hectic, but wasn't impeccable at running,
like learned to walk in then maybe in the last year.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I don't know. Okay, look they were small. I'm going
with two two point two.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Anyway, she walked past the cafe and then kept walking,
and I heard the couple next to me start talking. Now,
the defining feature of this wasn't a normal walk. She
walked past with her kid on a leash, so like, yeah,
backpack leash, backpack leech.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
They've made the leash just cute these days.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Though they had like a little monkey backpack.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
With a leash.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Well, I must admit I don't see it often, Like
it's not often that I have seen a kid on
a leash. But what I will say is when I
was eighteen, I moved to Italy to be a nanny,
and part of my job as a nanny, I was
given a leash when it started. That sounds ridiculous, but
I was given a leash, and that was my first
like insight into children. Right. I was only just eighteen myself,
(09:30):
but my child over there was fifteen monthsish, was just
had started learning to sort of like run walk and
they lived near the water, so I had to walk
the child on a leash. At the start, I was say,
walk the child. That's what I did know.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
You went for a walk with a kid and they
just happened to be wearing a leash.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Otherwise it's a dog.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
I walked to the child. If a child's on a leash,
I'm walking.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Just take a pre bag with the child. You just
pick it up from the side of the street.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
No, but it's interesting because at the start I was mortified, right,
I was like I had never seen this. I was like,
this is so embarrassing that I'm walking this kid on
a leash because I was.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Associating it with a dog.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Right then, after a couple of months, it was the
best thing that anyone could.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Have given to me with that kid, because this kid
was like running a million miles an hour.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Italy is all full of cobblestone streets, like it's easy
to be falling over, tripping over, tumbling in the water.
This kid was quick, and I learned to love the leash.
But this couple next to me, and this is why
I was eavesdropping. They were just like mortified. They were
slamming this woman, not to a face, to each other.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Oh it's fine when it's behind someone's back.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Totally, and it really got me thinking. I was like,
hang on, even though I found that least really practical
when I was eighteen spoiler, that's a long time ago.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
I'm thirty seven.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Now, what do you think as a mum about walking
with a kid on a leash?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
When I was younger, I would have thought it was
a bit humiliating, and also I didn't quite understand why
someone would do it. Well, you can't put a six
year old on a leash, No, there's an age limit,
of course, but also it's like.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
An eighteen year old at their graduation and.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
You walk okay.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
No.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
My thing, though, is being a nineteen year old or
an eighteen year old and being put in charge of nannying,
Like that's really young. Like I would say, that's really
young to be given the full responsibility there's a reason
why they have done that.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
It's not just for the kids safety.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
It's so that they feel a sense of security that
you have control over that child. Like I probably wouldn't
feel as though I needed to for someone who had
a lot of experience with kids, but an eighteen year old,
I think there's probably even more of a reason why
they asked you to do it at that age.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
No, what I found is, and I found this really interesting.
It became so good to use. It's almost like a
bungee cord. When the kid would trip or fall, you
just quickly pull it a little bit and they just
don't touch the ground, but they bungee. They would bunge
you back up.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
By but hang on.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
It taught the kid going sorry, yeah, because it's like
a double edged sword.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
It was amazing.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
They didn't hurt themselves and I didn't know as child,
but it didn't teach them like any fear. So they
because there wasn't any repercussions of running and tripping or
not being careful because they didn't ever hit the ground
because I was always bungee courting them around, So they
just became a little bit more reckless.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
So it's sort of like a ended up working against itself.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
There are so many kids out there who are quote
unquote runners, especially at like runners three years old. No,
they just you put them down on the ground and cook.
They're off and it's like you turn around two seconds
later and your kid's gone, especially if you're near a
busy road or you're like at a shopping center or
at a fair. I don't know that there's reasons why
people would do it. I just wouldn't criticize another person's
parenting or why they're choosing to do something. They know
(12:31):
their kid better than I do, So like, let them
put them on a lead if they need to.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
You could get one of those ones that attach to
each other and have three.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah, I'm gonna need the ones I'm going to need.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Let the dog walker lead. That will be mine, and
I'll have one for each child. If they said luckily
one of them will be in a PRAM for a
long time now, Britt, it will. I'm sure it comes
as no surprise to anyone who's been listening to the
show for the last couple of weeks. I'm up the
daff Everyone have a number three kid so we have.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Thanks for specifying what's up there that it is in
fact a human.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Trial, it's a job.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
So we already have two daughters, Marley and Lola, five
and four, and there's gonna be quite a gap between
Lola and the third child, so five years by the
time this baby's born the.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Third daughter too.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, three girls. But I kind of feel like.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Because Maley and Lola were born very quickly, like it
was in a quick succession. We had Marley and then
nineteen twenty months later we had Lola. It was also
during COVID, and it was just a different time and
both of those girls got the same introduction to life.
Like we lived in the same apartment. They ended up
sharing a room and they have been tight. They had
like a really cute little nursery which they had together. Yeah,
(13:36):
and I feel like they have kind of had a
very similar childhood that's been replicated one and two, whereas
number three. I feel a little bit more relaxed this
time round. And let me tell you, for the first one,
I had everything. I had everything planned and put away
before she was born. I had the nursery and the
change table and all the toys, and it was just
(13:57):
like a really beautiful space before the baby was born
esthetically pleasing, it was instagram worthy on point Yeah. Yeah,
number three twenty weeks off, couldn't get it.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, pretty much. Is That's where I'm going.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
The things that I thought once upon a time that
you needed to have a baby, and the preparation that
I put in for one and two has completely gone
out the window for number three. And I don't know
whether it's because I'm just more relaxed, or whether it's
because I realize that actually kids don't need as many
things as you think they do, or whether it's just
because I careless why.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I hope it's not that one.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
For the sake of as child, I would say it's
a multitude of all of them.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
If you think about the difference.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Right when you're about to have your first child, you
have zero idea about anything, like nothing, what you need,
what you have to do to keep them alive, Like
you over prepare, you over prepared.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
But it's like anything in life. If you don't know
you're going prepared now, you don't really need to do that.
And also you don't need.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
To go by the toys you've got. They've got two
older sisters, You've got so much shit at home. You
know nothing's going to happen. So I guess you're a
bit like hands behind your head reclining on the beach chair.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Like what the problem is, we actually don't have a
lot of that stuff anymore because we've got a We
got rid of it because their kids are so old.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
We've got rid of all in you bonn stuff.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
But I do remember Lola sleeping in the hallway for
a while. She did did this sound like she had
a luxury nursery. She slept in mine now hallway.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
She lived in a portercot in the hallway for a
period of time, but that was only until she got
transferred into her own bedroom.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Now that worked.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Fine for us, like she survived. But I feel like
I've pushed, at one point further for this child. So
we have a room that could be designated as the nursery.
But I also think it's kind of just a waste
of a room because babies don't use the nursery to
start with, Like they just don't.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
They sleep in a basinet by your bed.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
It is as I think, personally, there is no need
for a newborn baby to have their own bedroom.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
They'll never use it.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
If you turn it into a nightclub.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
No, I've turned it into an exercise room for me
so that I can have a pilates mat. I can
just have some space to have a little bit of
piece and quiet to myself. Because we have a full house,
mother in law, two kids, husband, massive forty kilo dog. Like,
there's nowhere else to go and that's my sanctuary.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I think if you girl, math the shit out of this,
I think that that is in fact you being a
good mum, because be a good mum, you need to
feel good, you need to have.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Time on your own, and you need to exercise. So
essentially you're doing this maybe a favor by putting her
in a court in the hall.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I do think that potentially I am running the risk
of becoming a little bit too relaxed with this pregnancy.
And I say that because we are so twenty weeks.
You have your twenty weeks scan right where they do
the anatomy and they check out all the measurements and
everything and they make sure that things are going to plan.
So the other day I looked at my calendar and
this week I have my appointment with my obstrician. It's
(16:39):
literally in a day and Matt was like, Oh, what's
that one for? And I was like, Oh, it's for
the results for the twenty week scan. And he's like,
have your habs? Did you go and have the scan?
I completely forgot to book the twenty week scan. We
are twenty weeks and I haven't done it yet, and
now I have to rearrange everything so that can go
and get a scan done to make sure everything's fine.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
I am too relaxed, But imagine turning up to get
your results and he's.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Like, you did lie? You haven't not scared to be fair.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
It reminds me of the time where I went and
I got a patsmre and then two months later I
booked in for a perhaps mean and my doctor was like, why.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Are you back?
Speaker 4 (17:11):
She's like, your secret.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I just really enjoy papson. All right, guys, That is
it from us today.
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