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July 7, 2025 • 18 mins

Laura accidentally forgot her husband's birthday, ChatGPT is apparently making us dumber and Britt & Laura unpack whether it's harder raising boys or girls. 

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Good Pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura Burn.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Brady, your work, our windows down, that's my world, risen
the dust.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Only good fabs.

Speaker 4 (00:28):
Are all down.

Speaker 5 (00:30):
I don't much, but yeah, our big get and what
it don't matter where.

Speaker 6 (00:37):
This is the pick up.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Hello, everyone's the Pickup with Britt Hockeley and Laura Burn.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
It was a really sad weekend for me.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Laura, I know it was I please single again, but
you're not. You're married.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Don't take that headline.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Your husband has just gone home to the country of
which he lives resides.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
It's like, how are you going to navigate this for
anyone who doesn't know.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
So Britt recently got married, her husband still lives overseas,
and they are navigating a marriage within long distance.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, this one hit different.

Speaker 5 (01:05):
We've been long distance since we met, We've just spent
six weeks together, got married twice. He's just left on
the weekend and it's always been okay when he leaves,
and this time it wasn't. And I think that's because
we're in a different chapter now, Like now we're married
it feels different, and we'd spent so much time together
and it was way harder to say goodbye. Mind you,
it was at three in the morning, so I only

(01:26):
cried for about ten minutes and fell asleep.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
I was like, it wasn't I had to go back.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
To sleep, but it was. I don't know it.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
This time hit different for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah, I mean, I know that you kind of feel
questions around it a lot because it's it's hard for
some people to understand, like how do you manage to
be married and also navigate long distance at the same time,
And I can only imagine it's really really hard it is.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
And also it's not just me now.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
My dog Delilah, she has been moping around since he left,
like she's just as sad I know, because.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
She left, He left the whole family.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
You could have daddy issues.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
It's also her birthday.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
It was her birthday, yet he left on her birthday.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
She's going to recover. It's been a weekend of birthdays.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Also, you guys, it was Moodang's birthday, really big celebrations.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
It was also sorry for the but it was also
my husband's.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Birthday and I forgot, which makes as much as I
give Matt so much stick on this Showy Laura, I forgot,
and we're asking the question what important event did you forget?
To make me feel a little bit better, We're going
to discuss an Nexit's to pick up on kiss. I
feel like I give my husband such a hard time
on this show.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
You do, I really do.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Even last week we called him to beerate him about
the fact that he didn't know how pregnant I was.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
But we do it with love.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
I do love him. Yeah, No, we do it in jest.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Is that a thing?

Speaker 2 (02:40):
I don't know if he thinks it's in jest. I
think he feels bullied, but we prop him up when
he needs to as well.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
And you know what they do have that saying, which
is what people in glasshouses shouldn't throw stones.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
I say, happy wife, happy life.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, that one as well. He adbides to that. What
I mean by that is is like I often pull
him up on his indiscretions. And I would say one
thing that Matt is very good at is that he
rarely pulls me up on mine.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Like he lets a lot of things slide.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
And I forgot something really important after having a go
at him on this show about.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
The fact that he didn't know how pregnant I was.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
So that night I came home from work and he
says to me, maybe we should go out for dinner
this weekend on Sunday, And I was like why was
my literal response why?

Speaker 5 (03:24):
I can also imagine like the face you just did
also like with discuss dis.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Daying almost and he got two kids.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, and he was like, it might just be nice
for us to do something together before the baby comes.
And I was like, theybe were so busy at the moment,
like why this weekend? Literally said this to him, and
he goes, oh, I just thought it'd be nice. And
I was like, oh, can we do it after school holidays?
And he goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course, of course.
And he goes on with his day and that was it.
Didn't think anything more of the conversation until about four

(03:51):
hours later when he said, oh, honey, I'm not sure
if he realized, but did you know it's actually my
birthday on Sunday?

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Completely forgot.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
I not one iota of me realized that the weekend
just passed was my husband's birthday.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Okay. I had to work so hard to make it
up to the.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
No, Okay, you made a gray era.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
Why I would have been like, oh thanks, Matt, I
was trying to surprise you with dinner.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
I would have made that work for me.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
You had two days, you didn't.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
The day hadn't come yet.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
You should have pretended that you was going to surprise
you on Sunday, And that's why you were playing.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Dumb brit You're way too cunning for me. You know,
I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
I did not think of that on my feet, and
I just admitted to defeat and I had to apologize.
Not only did I have to apologize forgetting his birthday,
I also then had to apologize for calling him out
live on radio that same day with to beerate him
for not knowing that I was twenty seven weeks pregnant
and not knowing when the baby's due.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Okay, so maybe we need to give him a little
bit more slack on him.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, we wanted to know. We did a call out before.
What was the big thing that you forgot? And Grace,
you were just saying before that your grandma forgot something
really important, which I think is probably a bit of
a problem.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
My grandparents forgot to go on a cruise once like that.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
They booked it.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Can you imagine imagine being so excited for your holiday
and then just forgetting to get a bored.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Well I knew they were going on the cruise and
and you know I saw them that weekend. I was like,
why are they there?

Speaker 2 (05:10):
And Mom was like, they forgot?

Speaker 3 (05:13):
How long you know what? They probably booked the cruise
like a year in advance?

Speaker 5 (05:17):
Well, no, they were, so they kept talking about that,
so they just got the day.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Get this one.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
We had someone right in and say that they forgot
their own induction. So when you get induced to have
a baby, you get it. It's booked in with the hospital.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Imagine just completely forgetting. Surely, at that.

Speaker 5 (05:30):
Point of an induction, you can't wait to get that
thing out. Surely you're like you have got that time
to the second.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Oh I don't know.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
I think some baby brain. Let's put it down to that.
We've got Brad on the phone. Brad, what did you forget?

Speaker 6 (05:43):
Oh yeah, I'm not proud of this one. Guys. But
this year, for Mother's Day, like weeks and weeks before
Mother's Day, I invited my mom around to my place
just for like low key, like a little morning tea
and then I thought nothing of its text. So she
agreed to it. She was like, fantastic, I'll see you there.
And then like it was like six weeks in advance.
So six weeks go by. I don't really think much

(06:05):
of it. And then it's Mother's Day's the Sunday. I'm
just hanging out at home. I completely forgot. She rocks
up to my door, knocks on my door, she puts
a little cakes for herself.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
I guess, wow, this knew No, she knew you were
going to forget if this was a conversation that happened
six weeks out and there was no chat since that
was your mom. She was like, I bet you he's
going to do nothing. I bet you this is an
empty promise.

Speaker 5 (06:28):
I imagine Mother's Day you have to travel somewhere and
bring the day.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Do you know what that is? Literally being a mum Brad. Yeah,
you're going to make it up to it next year.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
Now.

Speaker 6 (06:38):
Yeah, I felt pretty bad. I did apologize and.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
All right, we've got Rachel on the line. Rachel, what
did you forget?

Speaker 7 (06:46):
So my parents a few years ago, I had VIP
tickets to go see Pink in Sydney, so my dad
was living in Sydney. My mom was in Melbourne and
she flew up to Sydney. But then they just sat
at home and forgot to go. But they just didn't go.
They just sat at home and then they're like, wait,
we meant to be doing something.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
How did they forget? Were you like, guys go and
get checked for outside? Was That's so funny. I think
it's normal sometimes to be really excited for an event.
I do do this a lot, but just not know
when it is. Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (07:19):
Like you know it's coming up, but that you forget
the actual day of.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
The week, or you know what I blame.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
I blame Facebook because I forget everyone's birthday now like
my husband's. I would forget my children. Thank God they're
not on Facebook, so I have to save theirs in
my calendar. I honestly forget everyone's birthday because I rely
on Facebook.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
But the reminders aren't good enough from Facebook.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
It's done as dirty twenty sixth of September.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
It's not that wrong month, twenty first of some month.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
But I can't remember what you want August twenty.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
First of August.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
No, I'm getting down. I've had enough.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
It is the twenty first of August.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
Everyone, all right, So if anyone wants to audition from
new co host and best friend, I am taking auditions now.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Hey, that's right.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
My husband's also single as well, if you'd like him someone.

Speaker 5 (08:03):
If there's any husband out that needs a new wife,
Laura's completely available.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
I'll forget about you though, Laura.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
I know that you sometimes use chat GPT.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
What were the last things that you looked up? Oh? God,
don't put me in the spot.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
Well, I say this because I'm definitely.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
New to it.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
I don't use chat GPT well.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
And when I say that, there are some people who
use chat GPT as like their entire personality. They write
business plans on it, they have workout meal plans, they
do their tax through chat. Like I use it for questions,
I could probably just use the normal internet.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
I think that I didn't really understand how like thorough
it was because I've sort of not got the hype.
It's one of those things I listen to people talking about,
but I sporadically would put some questions in. But I
didn't realize that in just seconds it could do like
all of your work.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, so I'm definitely not using it.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Well, my last search was chemtrails myths debunked?

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Are they real? I don't know why. What was the
answer kem trails?

Speaker 1 (08:59):
There was absolutely no scientific evidence that they exist.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
We are not being poisoned by the government everyone. In
case you thought we were, somebody I should have looked
this up.

Speaker 5 (09:07):
Someone recently commented one my photos on Instagram.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
I trails.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:11):
I was in Italy and it had been like sporadically
raining and there was a cloud in the photo and
someone wrote, it's raining from the chemtrails. I could see
them in the back of your photo and.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
I was like, what, Well, now you don't have to Google.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
I have chat GPT that also, I was looking up
things like normal weight gained for twenty one weeks pregnant.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
So look, I mean, how big is my baby?

Speaker 1 (09:27):
I certainly don't need to be using chat GPT. I mean,
I'm killing the environment, as it would see.

Speaker 5 (09:32):
I did spend last night on chat GPT looking up
new business names, not for us, Laura, but just for
myself anyway.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
I had some good examples.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
But what I wanted to say is I saw this
new study from these researchers at MIT's Media Lab. They
have said that they think that chat GPT is reducing
our critical thinking skills. Now that doesn't sound like shock horror,
but it was really interesting. So they used like an
EEG which records brain activity. Yeah, and they split people
up into three groups which were using nothing at all,

(10:02):
using Google's search engine, and using chat GPT to write essays,
so like three groups you could just use your brain,
Google or chat GPT. Then they studied their brain activity
and they made them do some tests off the back
of it, and basically, people that use chat GPT over
the coming months had consistently underperformed at neural, linguistic, and

(10:22):
behavioral levels. They had the lowest brain engagement, so they're
literally watching their brain and just just nothing's happening. And
on top of that, they then asked them to repeat
and try and remember what they had written in the essay,
So like even though they've used different search engines, they
still had to write the essay. Everyone that used chat
GPT had the lowest memory level, Like they couldn't even

(10:44):
remember what they were writing.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
I mean, I know that there's been a research studied
on this, but I feel like that that's pretty evident
because if you're going to write it from scratch, you've
got to have done the research. You've got to interpret it,
you've got to spit it out, like you have to
actually be able to comprehend what it is that you
have read. Whereas like the reason why people are getting
into so much trouble for using chat GPT in their
workplace and everywhere else is because you're basically just outsourcing

(11:07):
your own thinking or critical thinking or work use and
just removing the long dash that everyone knows and now
we all know now that that's like the indicator of
chat GPT.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
Well, they used to be a bit of an argument,
I shouldn't say used to be there still is. There
was an argument that people were saying, well, it doesn't
necessarily make you dumber. It just gives you freeze up
more time to do other things, which in a way
it does. But if it's only free and you up
more time to do other things and in the other
time you're still using chat GPT to do the other things,
well then we are getting dumber. So they're actually they're
genuinely now worried about our next generation.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
I think personally, and I know, like we joke about
what I've been searching and stuff. I think I was
quite a late adopter to it, and I don't use
it in the way that people who are very good
and like critical at creating. I think because you can
give it like different personas and whatnot and set up
libraries and all that sort of stuff. We all know
that person in either our friendship group or maybe you've
met him at a party, and I'm saying him because
it's often a man.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
But sometimes you know, I shouldn't gender it. But there are.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
People were talking about because I haven't met them over
and over again. There are people whose chat GPT is
now their entire personality. They do everything, every email they
write has spat out through chat GPT, every single meal plan,
they use chat GPT as their therapist.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Like.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
It does make me wonder not only in terms of
like essays and schoolwork and everything else, but are some
people leaning on it too heavily that they're outsourcing so
much of their personality to what is essentially just a
computer one hundred percent?

Speaker 5 (12:33):
But what's the next generation going to be? Can we
not string a sentence together? Can we not write?

Speaker 1 (12:38):
But we're really good at writing? Just they won't be
able to do it without being prompted. I came across
something that I think is going to divide everybody listening.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Who are parents and who have.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Boys or girls, especially those who have both, And that
is I was sitting on the loo this morning scrolling
in Instagram.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
The toilet is already going to be irrelevant to this
talk story unless it's saying about doing your number two.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
No, I was just I was hiding away in the
bathroom from my kids, scrolling Instagram, having some peace and quiet,
and I came across this post said this. A recent
study has found the parents of daughters experienced significantly highest
stress levels compared to those raising sons. Now this has
sparked discussion about psychological and emotional challenges of parenting. Let

(13:22):
me tell you the comment section in this post was
going off. There was three thousand, six hundred and ninety
eight comments, some of them agree, some of them disagreeing.
I feel as though I can't really comment on like
the which side is harder? I mean, obviously I only
have two girls and we're adding another girl to the mix.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
Well, I like that You're asking me then, in this situation,
who has no children?

Speaker 3 (13:42):
No?

Speaker 4 (13:43):
What?

Speaker 2 (13:43):
What I'm curious about is.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
I wonder the age of this, though, because as a
mum to two little girls, I'm always so in awe
of the fact that like girls seem to be able
to sit down and draw and like play autonomously for
periods of time. Like my little kids, If I chuck
them down at the table with some coloring in pencils, like,
they will draw for an hour, Whereas my nephews who
were the same age, if I tried to do that,

(14:05):
within ten minutes, they'd be breaking the pencils and want
to go and like pick a ball outside.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
Oh God, I did not sit down quietly and draw
autonomously as a child.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
I do have the joke with Matt at the moment,
because Matt, this is my husband. He's coming to terms
with the fact that we're having another little girl, and
I keep saying to him, just imagine how fun this
household's going to be when we have three children going
through puberty and one wife going through menopause, Like, you're.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Going to be in real I hope the business is
over by then.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
No, you'll be going through menopause too. You'll be fine.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
What No, I won't.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
I'm twenty five.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Okay, you grew up in a household they had two boys,
two girls, even split.

Speaker 5 (14:40):
I think I was in a bit of an anomaly.
Like my sister would sit down quietly, she loved to read,
she had a membership of the library.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
She's a very compliant sherry. Oh she's an angel.

Speaker 5 (14:50):
And I was like, you could not keep me inside,
you could not keep me still.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
I was like, hard work. Well, I mean, I would
be so interested to hear.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
If you guys have some thoughts on this, you can
slide on into our DMS at the pickup. But also
there's a few poles that support this. So sixty six
percent of UK parents think boys are easier than girls,
and there was another one that said fifty four percent
of Americans said that boys were way easier than girls.
Twenty seven percent said girls were easier than boys. There
are some conflicting things, and I think the reason for

(15:18):
this is that they're saying that girls are better at
communicating their emotional needs when they're younger.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
They're better at expressing themselves and talking.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Some people are saying that boys are more resilient than
girls at times, girls are better communicators. There's a lot
of different facts, but I would dare say maybe as
your kids get older it becomes more stressful, because I
would think that raising teenage girls would be really really
hard because you would worry about their safety. You would
worry about them dating, You would worry about them going

(15:48):
out and drinking. Like, I don't know that we worry
for boys in the same way, but I think with
girls as an extra element there too.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, but I would think the worry element would be
the same. It's just for different things.

Speaker 5 (15:58):
Like I'd be worried about my daughter's safety going to
a party drinking, but I'd be worried about my son's
safety of like jumping off a cliff drunk because his
friends dared him too, or just do something stupid.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
You know.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
But I don't think worry discriminates dependent on the gender
of your kids. I think every single parent worries about
their kids regardless.

Speaker 5 (16:15):
Yeah, look, producer Grace, call my my dad, PAPATONI get
him on the line.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
Four kids, two boys, two girls.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
We'll just ask him.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Let's think Tony can be the defining factor for the nation.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
To Hey dad, it's your favorite child, Brittany full.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Disclosure you are on radio. It's also Laura.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
Hey dad, if you have a second. We're just trying
to get to the bottom of a very deep study.
What sex is harder to raise? Boys or girls?

Speaker 4 (16:51):
Overall? I would say girls, but boys I found provided
I had a strict set of rules and guidelines near
their boundaries, if I overstep them, you can kick them
back in the line, and will not literally kick them
back into the line, but you can pull them back
into line. Girl's definitely harder in the teen years. Yeah,

(17:15):
you were a shocker.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
At fourteen, Tony. That's my question.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
My real question is is which out of you four
kids was the hardest.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
That depends in general terms, Dane. Other than that, the
hardest one for me was Britty.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah, no surprises.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
Yeah, And that was only only basically because in those
tween years she clashed with the mother, which I think
is not an unusual thing for teenage girls to do. Yeah,
and each of them saw at every disagreement was a
battle that they had to desperately win.

Speaker 5 (17:46):
All right, this is supposed we just did overall general
conversation about boys and girls.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Let's not get into my issues.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Thanks thanks for that data.

Speaker 5 (17:52):
I don't know what we got from that, to be honest,
Maybe ponder that one.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
And we'll come back. Thanks. Tony like, so, hang on
was the poisoned girls?

Speaker 5 (18:05):
Give me one answer, one word?

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Girls were harder.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
When he's saying so in contrary.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
To worry about these days, Tony, We're going to hang
up on you now, okay, love you.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Look goes against all of the apparent research, which I'm
sure isn't very hard hitting. But look, if you would
like to weigh on on that, I'm so interested. Brace
me if it's going to be girls, because we've got
a lot ahead of us, all.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Right, I'm not getting my down on the radio ever again.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
He just remember a bus.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
It was supposed to be a general question.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
He just like attacked me. I feel so attacked.
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