September 9, 2025 • 17 mins
A woman has been called 'tacky' for asking for money to cover the ingredients at her dinner party, Britt & Laura unpack the Bro Code and whether you're allowed to tell your wife and we chat PR relationships after Pamela Anderson has claimed she would NEVER be in one.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
I heard podcasts, hear more Kiss podcast playlist and listen
live on the Free iHeart app.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Are you ready?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura Burn Radio?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
What our Windows down? That's my world? Reason the dust
only good?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Bab dug all down.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I've done much, but yeah I'm not. I'll big get
and what I want. It don't matter where that goes.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
This is the Pickup PI guys, and you're listening to
the Pickup with Brett Hockey and Laura Burn.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Laura, how big is that little bear?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Ber?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Now I've hit watermelon territory. Guys. I'm thirty Yeah, I'm
thirty seven and three days or something.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I feel like, I know I'm not supposed to comment,
but you seem small. I just thought it was you
don't seem like there's a watermelon in there? What is there?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Thank you for the confliment. I don't know, it's it's
in my head.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
When you're like, it's the size of a watermelon, I'm
giving birth and two week I'm like, it's not that big.
And then I was like, I know that I'm not
supposed to say that, but you're my best friend and
co host.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I'm allowed to it's true. I yeah. Look for anyone
who doesn't know what the hell we're talking about, if
you just tuned in thin I'm pregnant. I'm having a
baby in less than two weeks. Now, uh hopefully got like,
dear God, get this baby out of me, because if
I go longer than two weeks, I'm going to be
really sad. That's for sure. You have a birth plan, No,
I don't have a birth plan, but I'm going to
be induced this time. I was actually I say this time,
(01:33):
I've been induced every time. I don't know what it's
like to actually go into labor, Like I've never had
that feeling of ooh is that a contraction, Oh my
water's broken down?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Were myself?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Or is that the waters? Never? Because my pregnancies have
just hung on for dear life, like I reckon Marley
would have stayed in there until she was sixteen. If
she could have my oldest, that would have been nice.
Imagine the spots you wouldn't have been insane.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
All small.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Then she was forty two weeks, so I kind of
been just expecting that I'll end up being induced. But
I had this moment the other night where I was
sitting on the couch and I was like, what's that.
I have this weird pain? And I was like, is
that a late pain? Has that started? And then I
had it again a little while later. It was very irregular,
and then I realized it after about two hours I just.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Had I was about to say, please tell me, this
ends with you just letting one rip and being like, nope,
stand down, stand down. It was a fun It's yeah,
it is absolutely not an emergency. I am not in labor,
and this kill staying in his story only would have
got better if you enter the hospital and you're like,
I'm in labor. Nope, don't worry, I'm going over.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Oh thank god I didn't have to go through that,
because that would have been truly embarrassing that anyway, Now.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Laura, you love a dinner party? Do I? Apparently I've
never invited, But you do love a dinner party.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
That's not true that you've never been invited. Whenever we
have a dinner party, you're invited. But I'm not one
to throw them anymore. I'm too pregnant and I have
too many children. It's annoying.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Well, I want to get your take on this. This
is I guess who is the a hole which we
love here, but there the group of people online a
group of friends. Now one of the girls has invited
all her friends over for dinner. Hey, guys, come to
my house. Let's have a cute let's have a dinner party.
So the girls like, yeah, that sounds great. So it
wasn't like an order takeaway. It was a dinner party.
(03:16):
So a few of them are like, what can I bring?
You know, one brought a bottle of one or whatever
else and some some chips and snacks at the start.
You know what you do, like turn up with something.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
If you're going to go to a dinner party where
someone's hosting, you always take a plate or a salad
or something or like only if they you know, you
ask and then you bring something. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
So they went had their dinner, it was all lovely,
went home. The next day they all got a message
in the group chat that was a request for eighteen
dollars fifty each and that money was for the dinner
party that she had thrown the night before.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
For the ingredients in total.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, for the Yeah, I mean it's not a tip
for a service, I guess, but it's like it was
for like this is what I spent on, all the
food and drinks and getting everything.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Can you guys chip in?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
But the girls were all sort of like, well, hang on,
thought we thought you just inviteds over for dinner. We
didn't know it was anyway. It's caused a bit of
a rift in the group. And it's like asking the question,
should you have to pay if a friend invice shouldn't dinner?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
No, if a friend invites you to dinner, then that
is like a nice generous gift. However, if I went
over to a friend's house and I had dinner there,
and then they messing me the next day and said, oh, hey, hon,
do you mind transferring me eighteen dollars because they pay it,
I'd just pay it. I wouldn't be getting on Reddit
and complaining about it. I'd just pay It's eighteen bar.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Well.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I think they did pay it to keep the friendship,
but I think that they're more now just trying to
get to the bottom of like is this normal?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Like every so often these things happen and you like
have to like have a bit of a It's almost
like having a social.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Stock take, right, You're like, hey, this happened.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Are they being weird or am I presuming that this
is not an okay situation. I think if you're going
to invite people over to your house, there's kind of
an expectation that you're cooking for them and you're not
expecting them to pay her.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Way unless so a girlfriend asked me over on the weekend.
There were four of us girls, Hey, do you guys
want to come have dinner? We'll just chill, the dogs
can play whatever else. And it was like, we'll just
order some takeaway. That was different because we all went over,
we all uber eats together. Then we all just transferred
the money and it was even. I feel like the
context is important, Like if it's like let's catch up
(05:17):
and just order dinner together, it's more like open to
whoever's house. It could be it's not come for a
dinner party. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I also wonder, okay, in these situations, maybe I'm going
too deep down the rabbit hole now, but okay. For example,
what if they usually go over to a friend's house
and they usually do that, like they usually are just
ordering takeaway and then they transfer and so she was like, oh,
come in mind, but I'll cook. She just had a
really skewed misconception around how that was going to go.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Well, look, I went down a bit of a rabbit
hole on this thread. I feel like this is not
uncharted territory, like we've all been in this situation. But
there was like a whole thread on dates.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Dates that have like, oh, you've experienced this though a
few times for it. What about sandwich guy?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, I had a guy that bought me a sandwich
on a date and then mate walked me to an
ATM to get twenty dollars out. In fact, the sandwich
was like eighteen dollars, like a me two dollar tip.
He didn't he didn't give me two dollars back.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
That was the generosity of walking him to the eighty. No.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
But there was this one woman that was like, she
went on a date with a thirty year old guy.
They had burgers and fries, like quite casual, it's giving McDonald's,
but I think it was fancier but like that kind
of a food. So they got burgers each and then
they said, hey, do you just want to share a fries?
Like how hungry are you? Anyway, the next day she
woke up to a venmo request for three dollars twenty
(06:29):
five and the note was, hey, this is for the
fries that we shared three dollars after a date.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
No, but like you know what, though, these people are
not getting second date. Yeah, and they don't expect them either.
I think if you're sending that, you're sending it because
you don't want a second date. And I actually think,
if anything, that guy sent it because he's a coward.
So instead of saying, hey, I don't want to have
a second date with you, he made himself undesirable. So
he was like, you know, can you pay me that
three dollars twenty five? And then she's going to go
to all a girlfriends and be like, oh my god,
(06:56):
this loser. And really he's just so conflict avoidant. He
didn't know how to message her and say I wasn't
into it.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
That's pretty good. I reckon that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I reckon that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I don't think any guy's got that identity.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
If I tell you a secret, will you tell your husband?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I mean, how long's a piece of string? What does
a secret?
Speaker 1 (07:15):
If I was like that, you wet yourself.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Probably y'a. I'll tell him.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
What's No?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I need content?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
No, there doesn't need to be content. If I told
you something and I was like, hey, you're my best friend,
don't tell anyone, would you keep that secret in its entirety?
Or would you not tell anyone but probably tell your husband.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I would keep the secret unless somehow it was going
to affect him or me directly. But like, if it
was just your something about a rash you had somewhere, what.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Do you mean unless it if it affects me, you'll
still tell him, because clearly I'm sensitive about.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Having a rash somewhere. No, if it affected me or
him somehow. But if you just said, hey, don't tell
anyone this, then you told me I wouldn't tell him.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
No, all right, Producer Grace, I got a question for you.
If I told you a secret, like and I was like, hey,
this is really personal, please don't tell anyone. Would you
keep it a secret from everyone else? But would you
share it with your wife? I'd probably share it with
my wife. I'm so sorry. That's why don't trust Grace.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
You're in ale and you're also fired.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I'm just thinking about all the secrets I've told Grace
and Diana.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Now great.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
The reason why this has come up is because there's
a guy who all of his friends are quite upset
with him because he's broke the bro code. So the
bro code being that they felt as though that they
had some conversations which was supposed to just end within
their friendship, and he went home and told his wife.
And then he's raised the question of like, but surely
that's what everyone's doing when you're in like long term
(08:41):
married or committed relationship.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
So hang on, do you tell your husband Matt my secrets?
I tell Matt most things, but you tell that my secret.
So you just got angry at Grace, but you tell
Matt my secret.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I can't think of any secrets you've told me.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I mean, Matt did tell the world my wedding dates.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Yeah, you guys don't know this, But so Brit kept
her actual wedding date a secret because to be fair,
I didn't tell him that though.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
He was invited to the wedding and the location.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
So Matt was invited to the wedding and the location,
and they did some pre records on his podcast Two
Doting Dad's and he just mixed up the date and
on the day of BRIT's wedding, he was like, oh, yeah,
we went to Bali for BRIT's wedding and then said
the date of what when the wedding.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Was doing for the wedding had happened.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
He's also shared our unborn child's first name and middle name,
which I wanted to keep at least one of them secret,
but he shared them both on his podcast as well, so.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
We can establish Matt has no broken.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Okay, Matt does not have a bro code. But I
do think that people have different rules for their partners.
Like some people will absolutely take a secret to the
grave and not tell anyone. Other people will tell that
one person, and usually that one person is their significant other.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I did read something somewhere from someone important and wise
fact that's someone Wise once said on some study that's
someone funded that we cannot fly No, that basically it
se impossible. Nobody doesn't tell somebody a secret, like almost
no one days the grave. I don't know how they
(10:05):
studied that, but it's like human nature to not be
able to hold something in. So whether it's just a
friend or a stranger or a therapist or whoever, it
is like as humans, we can't take something to the grave. Well,
how serial killers even get found out?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
You've got to think about it, right, Like you tell
one person and you're like, Okay, I only told one person,
that's the secret.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
And then they're going to tell one person.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
And they're like, but I only told one person and
that's the secret.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I don't know how I feel about it, but.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I do admire people who have the ability to receive
a secret and not tell a single soul, not even
their romantic partner.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I mean, now that you guys out of yourself first,
I would tell Ben for sure. I've taken the high
road because you asked me first.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I think most people are sharing stuff with their partners.
I do have an example of this, however, that is
absolutely not the case. So one of my best friends, KaiA,
she's been like my closest friend for gosh more than
ten years now, and when I came out of The Bachelor,
we had to keep it secret for several months because
the filming finished in May, and then the final showed
on TV in September. Actually it's coming up to our
(11:05):
anniversary of the final. And I told Kaya she just
knew she could look at me and I was happy
and I was texting someone all the time, and she
was like, I don't know on your finger. I was like,
I known you're with the guy, Like anyway. I was like,
you cannot tell anyone, you can't share it with anyone,
And she was like, Laura, I can keep a secret.
I'll take it to the grave. Her husband went and
(11:26):
put bets on for me to lose, so he thought
I didn't get chosen, so she lost money off and
when it came to the finale, he was like, wait,
you knew and you never told me. And Kayle was like, well,
it wasn't my secret to tell. And I just I
was so in awe.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Of her ability to keep a secret because I.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Was like, you're a better woman than I am.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Also, but there's different when there's NDAs in the picture,
like you've signed NDAs in and they're so scary that
you're led to believe that like I was led to
believe the CIA would come out.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I still told her, and she kept the secret better
than I did. Like I couldn't even keep it. It
was my NDA too fair. I would have told man.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Now we're talking showmanswers. I don't know if you have
been following along Laura the Neeson and Pamela Anderson. Yes,
I'm devastated Naked Gun saga. I love Liam Neeson right like,
I just think the man can do no wrong. He's
had a rough life. I think the world is rooting
for him to fall in love because he lost his
(12:22):
wife many years ago. She died in a really tragic accent.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I know, I know. But also Pamela Anderson has also
had a really hard run. And when she brought out
that doco a couple of years but she.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Also chose to marry people like Tommy tell me.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
But also no, she brought out that docco a couple
of years back, and it just made everyone fall in
love with her again.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yes, because it seems like she's actually such a sweet, loving,
caring normal person. So when they've just done a movie together,
Naked Gun, and they're in the movie there a couple,
and when they're on their press tour and to be fair,
off press tour as well, it got people talking are
they together? Because the way that they were interacting and
(12:59):
talking about each other, it was like they had found
love in real life.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I mean, everyone was convinced that they're in a relationship
and they've come out and said that they're not. And
I because they genuinely hurt.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
No, it's because they never actually denied it. That was
the problem, so they obviously lent into the fact. Anyway,
TNZ came out and said that they had a very reliable,
anonymous source like they were not going to release a
sauce that came and said it is fake. It's been released,
it's not real. And then Pamela Anderson has come out
and made a really public statement about it. Have listened
(13:31):
to this.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
I deny it, and we'll never feed into PR stunts.
That would be a death sentence. I'm superstitious when it
comes to love, and I'm not comfortable sharing any shred
of my romantic life. I know I will fall in
love again and again on screen. That is my job.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
So she's that sounds like it was AI generated. Did
she just go chat GPT also reproduce my voice?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I mean, she is obviously reading a statement that has
been written by her PR team. But what does this mean?
Because she's saying she would never do a showmance. Neither
of them have denied it, but she is adamantly saying
I will not ever do with showmance because it would
be descendants. Okay, people are like, hang.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
On, well in that case, I think it's very tricky
because I think if everyone is speculating that you're in
a relationship and you're not going to deny that you're
in a relationship, then I would say you're implying that
you are, especially if it's advantageous to the press tour
of a movie.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
So you know, we're happy again.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Well, no, we're not happy because they're not together and
they're faking it. But then they're denying that they're faking
it just because they haven't brought out a statement. I
got so into the relationship of Sidney Sweeney and Glenn
Powell when they filmed their movie a couple of years back.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, that was anyone, but you the reason why.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
That was so saucy was because Glenn had been in
a relationship with his partner for three years and Sidney
Sweeney was engaged.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
And they were leaning into it.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
So everyone not only was the people shipping their relationship
in the movie, but there was also this like, really weird,
are they having an affair? Are they together? Are they
like two people who are in love with each other
but they're in other relationships and they should really be together.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
But it's a real thing. We've seen in the last
couple of years, and I feel like Glenn Power and
Sydney Sweeney like kickstarted this era again more publicly. It's
all show mances have always happened, right, but we're just
more aware of them now. But like recently Austin Butler
and Zoe Kravitz in their film caught Stealing, like and
they will leaning into that. Even Scarlett Johansson and Jonathan Bailey.
(15:24):
Now Jonathan Bailey is gay, but they just did Jurassic
Park and they've been, like I guess, really really showing
or showcasing how connected they are.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
They kissing on the lips at every press tour.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
But it just gets you thinking, do we actually care
that much? Do show mances really sell more tickets? Like
do they make you want to go and see a
film more? Because personally, I'm over it. I don't care.
I don't want you to fake a relationship to get
me in. If anything, it makes me not want to
see your film.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
No, it works, it absolutely like I'm in because of the
thing is is like, that's what the pr that's what's
the machine. Right, Like obviously the movie itself, you either
want to see it or you don't want to see it.
But the thing that keeps the movie in the press
for longer is the fact that everyone is hooked as
to whether they are actually having this relationship in real life.
And we wouldn't be talking about this new movie with
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Pamela Anderson still. It would be like, oh, the press
Toool's done. It's kind of whatever it is, what it
is last week's news if it hadn't come back into
light this question around what's their real life intention? So
I think it absolutely works. Now.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I understand that it works to keep the pr machine going,
but does it actually sell tickets. I only saw Sidney
Sweeney's film like a month ago on a plane.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I watched it. To be fair, I also watched it
on a plane. It was a great chuckle for an
hour and a half, but I like, love them together,
and then I was like, were they really together? Because
I think in the movie they make such a sweet couple.
People want to see it transpire in real life. I mean,
I know it wasn't a showman shit, but it makes
me think of Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie when they're
a mister and missus white.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
That was what it's smith having a baby in a
week and a half.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
My memory doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Okay, No, mister and missus Smith.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Obviously they were a married couple in the movie, and
every one shipped their relationship, and then when it started
to come out that maybe there was something going on
off screen, it just fed the beast. Everyone wanted to
go and see, like, what is this movie that they
fell in love with?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Okay, here's a question for you. You get to pick
anyone to be in showments with. Who is it? Who
are you picking?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I would have said Jason Momoa a million years ago,
but I feel like I'm past him now.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, I'm past him. Toss, all right, who's yours?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Who's yours?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Probably Jonathan Bailey?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
All right, guys, Well that's it from us today.
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Are you ready?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura Burn Radio?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
What our Windows down? That's my world? Reason the dust
only good?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Bab dug all down.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I've done much, but yeah I'm not. I'll big get
and what I want. It don't matter where that goes.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
This is the Pickup PI guys, and you're listening to
the Pickup with Brett Hockey and Laura Burn.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Laura, how big is that little bear?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Ber?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Now I've hit watermelon territory. Guys. I'm thirty Yeah, I'm
thirty seven and three days or something.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I feel like, I know I'm not supposed to comment,
but you seem small. I just thought it was you
don't seem like there's a watermelon in there? What is there?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Thank you for the confliment. I don't know, it's it's
in my head.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
When you're like, it's the size of a watermelon, I'm
giving birth and two week I'm like, it's not that big.
And then I was like, I know that I'm not
supposed to say that, but you're my best friend and
co host.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I'm allowed to it's true. I yeah. Look for anyone
who doesn't know what the hell we're talking about, if
you just tuned in thin I'm pregnant. I'm having a
baby in less than two weeks. Now, uh hopefully got like,
dear God, get this baby out of me, because if
I go longer than two weeks, I'm going to be
really sad. That's for sure. You have a birth plan, No,
I don't have a birth plan, but I'm going to
be induced this time. I was actually I say this time,
(01:33):
I've been induced every time. I don't know what it's
like to actually go into labor, Like I've never had
that feeling of ooh is that a contraction, Oh my
water's broken down?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Were myself?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Or is that the waters? Never? Because my pregnancies have
just hung on for dear life, like I reckon Marley
would have stayed in there until she was sixteen. If
she could have my oldest, that would have been nice.
Imagine the spots you wouldn't have been insane.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
All small.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Then she was forty two weeks, so I kind of
been just expecting that I'll end up being induced. But
I had this moment the other night where I was
sitting on the couch and I was like, what's that.
I have this weird pain? And I was like, is
that a late pain? Has that started? And then I
had it again a little while later. It was very irregular,
and then I realized it after about two hours I just.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Had I was about to say, please tell me, this
ends with you just letting one rip and being like, nope,
stand down, stand down. It was a fun It's yeah,
it is absolutely not an emergency. I am not in labor,
and this kill staying in his story only would have
got better if you enter the hospital and you're like,
I'm in labor. Nope, don't worry, I'm going over.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Oh thank god I didn't have to go through that,
because that would have been truly embarrassing that anyway, Now.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Laura, you love a dinner party? Do I? Apparently I've
never invited, But you do love a dinner party.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
That's not true that you've never been invited. Whenever we
have a dinner party, you're invited. But I'm not one
to throw them anymore. I'm too pregnant and I have
too many children. It's annoying.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Well, I want to get your take on this. This
is I guess who is the a hole which we
love here, but there the group of people online a
group of friends. Now one of the girls has invited
all her friends over for dinner. Hey, guys, come to
my house. Let's have a cute let's have a dinner party.
So the girls like, yeah, that sounds great. So it
wasn't like an order takeaway. It was a dinner party.
(03:16):
So a few of them are like, what can I bring?
You know, one brought a bottle of one or whatever
else and some some chips and snacks at the start.
You know what you do, like turn up with something.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
If you're going to go to a dinner party where
someone's hosting, you always take a plate or a salad
or something or like only if they you know, you
ask and then you bring something. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
So they went had their dinner, it was all lovely,
went home. The next day they all got a message
in the group chat that was a request for eighteen
dollars fifty each and that money was for the dinner
party that she had thrown the night before.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
For the ingredients in total.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, for the Yeah, I mean it's not a tip
for a service, I guess, but it's like it was
for like this is what I spent on, all the
food and drinks and getting everything.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Can you guys chip in?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
But the girls were all sort of like, well, hang on,
thought we thought you just inviteds over for dinner. We
didn't know it was anyway. It's caused a bit of
a rift in the group. And it's like asking the question,
should you have to pay if a friend invice shouldn't dinner?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
No, if a friend invites you to dinner, then that
is like a nice generous gift. However, if I went
over to a friend's house and I had dinner there,
and then they messing me the next day and said, oh, hey, hon,
do you mind transferring me eighteen dollars because they pay it,
I'd just pay it. I wouldn't be getting on Reddit
and complaining about it. I'd just pay It's eighteen bar.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Well.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I think they did pay it to keep the friendship,
but I think that they're more now just trying to
get to the bottom of like is this normal?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Like every so often these things happen and you like
have to like have a bit of a It's almost
like having a social.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Stock take, right, You're like, hey, this happened.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Are they being weird or am I presuming that this
is not an okay situation. I think if you're going
to invite people over to your house, there's kind of
an expectation that you're cooking for them and you're not
expecting them to pay her.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Way unless so a girlfriend asked me over on the weekend.
There were four of us girls, Hey, do you guys
want to come have dinner? We'll just chill, the dogs
can play whatever else. And it was like, we'll just
order some takeaway. That was different because we all went over,
we all uber eats together. Then we all just transferred
the money and it was even. I feel like the
context is important, Like if it's like let's catch up
(05:17):
and just order dinner together, it's more like open to
whoever's house. It could be it's not come for a
dinner party. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I also wonder, okay, in these situations, maybe I'm going
too deep down the rabbit hole now, but okay. For example,
what if they usually go over to a friend's house
and they usually do that, like they usually are just
ordering takeaway and then they transfer and so she was like, oh,
come in mind, but I'll cook. She just had a
really skewed misconception around how that was going to go.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Well, look, I went down a bit of a rabbit
hole on this thread. I feel like this is not
uncharted territory, like we've all been in this situation. But
there was like a whole thread on dates.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Dates that have like, oh, you've experienced this though a
few times for it. What about sandwich guy?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, I had a guy that bought me a sandwich
on a date and then mate walked me to an
ATM to get twenty dollars out. In fact, the sandwich
was like eighteen dollars, like a me two dollar tip.
He didn't he didn't give me two dollars back.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
That was the generosity of walking him to the eighty. No.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
But there was this one woman that was like, she
went on a date with a thirty year old guy.
They had burgers and fries, like quite casual, it's giving McDonald's,
but I think it was fancier but like that kind
of a food. So they got burgers each and then
they said, hey, do you just want to share a fries?
Like how hungry are you? Anyway, the next day she
woke up to a venmo request for three dollars twenty
(06:29):
five and the note was, hey, this is for the
fries that we shared three dollars after a date.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
No, but like you know what, though, these people are
not getting second date. Yeah, and they don't expect them either.
I think if you're sending that, you're sending it because
you don't want a second date. And I actually think,
if anything, that guy sent it because he's a coward.
So instead of saying, hey, I don't want to have
a second date with you, he made himself undesirable. So
he was like, you know, can you pay me that
three dollars twenty five? And then she's going to go
to all a girlfriends and be like, oh my god,
(06:56):
this loser. And really he's just so conflict avoidant. He
didn't know how to message her and say I wasn't
into it.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
That's pretty good. I reckon that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I reckon that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I don't think any guy's got that identity.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
If I tell you a secret, will you tell your husband?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I mean, how long's a piece of string? What does
a secret?
Speaker 1 (07:15):
If I was like that, you wet yourself.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Probably y'a. I'll tell him.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
What's No?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I need content?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
No, there doesn't need to be content. If I told
you something and I was like, hey, you're my best friend,
don't tell anyone, would you keep that secret in its entirety?
Or would you not tell anyone but probably tell your husband.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I would keep the secret unless somehow it was going
to affect him or me directly. But like, if it
was just your something about a rash you had somewhere, what.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Do you mean unless it if it affects me, you'll
still tell him, because clearly I'm sensitive about.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Having a rash somewhere. No, if it affected me or
him somehow. But if you just said, hey, don't tell
anyone this, then you told me I wouldn't tell him.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
No, all right, Producer Grace, I got a question for you.
If I told you a secret, like and I was like, hey,
this is really personal, please don't tell anyone. Would you
keep it a secret from everyone else? But would you
share it with your wife? I'd probably share it with
my wife. I'm so sorry. That's why don't trust Grace.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
You're in ale and you're also fired.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I'm just thinking about all the secrets I've told Grace
and Diana.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Now great.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
The reason why this has come up is because there's
a guy who all of his friends are quite upset
with him because he's broke the bro code. So the
bro code being that they felt as though that they
had some conversations which was supposed to just end within
their friendship, and he went home and told his wife.
And then he's raised the question of like, but surely
that's what everyone's doing when you're in like long term
(08:41):
married or committed relationship.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
So hang on, do you tell your husband Matt my secrets?
I tell Matt most things, but you tell that my secret.
So you just got angry at Grace, but you tell
Matt my secret.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I can't think of any secrets you've told me.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I mean, Matt did tell the world my wedding dates.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Yeah, you guys don't know this, But so Brit kept
her actual wedding date a secret because to be fair,
I didn't tell him that though.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
He was invited to the wedding and the location.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
So Matt was invited to the wedding and the location,
and they did some pre records on his podcast Two
Doting Dad's and he just mixed up the date and
on the day of BRIT's wedding, he was like, oh, yeah,
we went to Bali for BRIT's wedding and then said
the date of what when the wedding.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Was doing for the wedding had happened.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
He's also shared our unborn child's first name and middle name,
which I wanted to keep at least one of them secret,
but he shared them both on his podcast as well, so.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
We can establish Matt has no broken.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Okay, Matt does not have a bro code. But I
do think that people have different rules for their partners.
Like some people will absolutely take a secret to the
grave and not tell anyone. Other people will tell that
one person, and usually that one person is their significant other.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I did read something somewhere from someone important and wise
fact that's someone Wise once said on some study that's
someone funded that we cannot fly No, that basically it
se impossible. Nobody doesn't tell somebody a secret, like almost
no one days the grave. I don't know how they
(10:05):
studied that, but it's like human nature to not be
able to hold something in. So whether it's just a
friend or a stranger or a therapist or whoever, it
is like as humans, we can't take something to the grave. Well,
how serial killers even get found out?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
You've got to think about it, right, Like you tell
one person and you're like, Okay, I only told one person,
that's the secret.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
And then they're going to tell one person.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
And they're like, but I only told one person and
that's the secret.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I don't know how I feel about it, but.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I do admire people who have the ability to receive
a secret and not tell a single soul, not even
their romantic partner.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I mean, now that you guys out of yourself first,
I would tell Ben for sure. I've taken the high
road because you asked me first.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I think most people are sharing stuff with their partners.
I do have an example of this, however, that is
absolutely not the case. So one of my best friends, KaiA,
she's been like my closest friend for gosh more than
ten years now, and when I came out of The Bachelor,
we had to keep it secret for several months because
the filming finished in May, and then the final showed
on TV in September. Actually it's coming up to our
(11:05):
anniversary of the final. And I told Kaya she just
knew she could look at me and I was happy
and I was texting someone all the time, and she
was like, I don't know on your finger. I was like,
I known you're with the guy, Like anyway. I was like,
you cannot tell anyone, you can't share it with anyone,
And she was like, Laura, I can keep a secret.
I'll take it to the grave. Her husband went and
(11:26):
put bets on for me to lose, so he thought
I didn't get chosen, so she lost money off and
when it came to the finale, he was like, wait,
you knew and you never told me. And Kayle was like, well,
it wasn't my secret to tell. And I just I
was so in awe.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Of her ability to keep a secret because I.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Was like, you're a better woman than I am.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Also, but there's different when there's NDAs in the picture,
like you've signed NDAs in and they're so scary that
you're led to believe that like I was led to
believe the CIA would come out.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I still told her, and she kept the secret better
than I did. Like I couldn't even keep it. It
was my NDA too fair. I would have told man.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Now we're talking showmanswers. I don't know if you have
been following along Laura the Neeson and Pamela Anderson. Yes,
I'm devastated Naked Gun saga. I love Liam Neeson right like,
I just think the man can do no wrong. He's
had a rough life. I think the world is rooting
for him to fall in love because he lost his
(12:22):
wife many years ago. She died in a really tragic accent.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I know, I know. But also Pamela Anderson has also
had a really hard run. And when she brought out
that doco a couple of years but she.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Also chose to marry people like Tommy tell me.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
But also no, she brought out that docco a couple
of years back, and it just made everyone fall in
love with her again.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yes, because it seems like she's actually such a sweet, loving,
caring normal person. So when they've just done a movie together,
Naked Gun, and they're in the movie there a couple,
and when they're on their press tour and to be fair,
off press tour as well, it got people talking are
they together? Because the way that they were interacting and
(12:59):
talking about each other, it was like they had found
love in real life.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I mean, everyone was convinced that they're in a relationship
and they've come out and said that they're not. And
I because they genuinely hurt.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
No, it's because they never actually denied it. That was
the problem, so they obviously lent into the fact. Anyway,
TNZ came out and said that they had a very reliable,
anonymous source like they were not going to release a
sauce that came and said it is fake. It's been released,
it's not real. And then Pamela Anderson has come out
and made a really public statement about it. Have listened
(13:31):
to this.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
I deny it, and we'll never feed into PR stunts.
That would be a death sentence. I'm superstitious when it
comes to love, and I'm not comfortable sharing any shred
of my romantic life. I know I will fall in
love again and again on screen. That is my job.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
So she's that sounds like it was AI generated. Did
she just go chat GPT also reproduce my voice?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I mean, she is obviously reading a statement that has
been written by her PR team. But what does this mean?
Because she's saying she would never do a showmance. Neither
of them have denied it, but she is adamantly saying
I will not ever do with showmance because it would
be descendants. Okay, people are like, hang.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
On, well in that case, I think it's very tricky
because I think if everyone is speculating that you're in
a relationship and you're not going to deny that you're
in a relationship, then I would say you're implying that
you are, especially if it's advantageous to the press tour
of a movie.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
So you know, we're happy again.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Well, no, we're not happy because they're not together and
they're faking it. But then they're denying that they're faking
it just because they haven't brought out a statement. I
got so into the relationship of Sidney Sweeney and Glenn
Powell when they filmed their movie a couple of years back.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, that was anyone, but you the reason why.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
That was so saucy was because Glenn had been in
a relationship with his partner for three years and Sidney
Sweeney was engaged.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
And they were leaning into it.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
So everyone not only was the people shipping their relationship
in the movie, but there was also this like, really weird,
are they having an affair? Are they together? Are they
like two people who are in love with each other
but they're in other relationships and they should really be together.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
But it's a real thing. We've seen in the last
couple of years, and I feel like Glenn Power and
Sydney Sweeney like kickstarted this era again more publicly. It's
all show mances have always happened, right, but we're just
more aware of them now. But like recently Austin Butler
and Zoe Kravitz in their film caught Stealing, like and
they will leaning into that. Even Scarlett Johansson and Jonathan Bailey.
(15:24):
Now Jonathan Bailey is gay, but they just did Jurassic
Park and they've been, like I guess, really really showing
or showcasing how connected they are.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
They kissing on the lips at every press tour.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
But it just gets you thinking, do we actually care
that much? Do show mances really sell more tickets? Like
do they make you want to go and see a
film more? Because personally, I'm over it. I don't care.
I don't want you to fake a relationship to get
me in. If anything, it makes me not want to
see your film.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
No, it works, it absolutely like I'm in because of the
thing is is like, that's what the pr that's what's
the machine. Right, Like obviously the movie itself, you either
want to see it or you don't want to see it.
But the thing that keeps the movie in the press
for longer is the fact that everyone is hooked as
to whether they are actually having this relationship in real life.
And we wouldn't be talking about this new movie with
(16:11):
Pamela Anderson still. It would be like, oh, the press
Toool's done. It's kind of whatever it is, what it
is last week's news if it hadn't come back into
light this question around what's their real life intention? So
I think it absolutely works. Now.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I understand that it works to keep the pr machine going,
but does it actually sell tickets. I only saw Sidney
Sweeney's film like a month ago on a plane.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I watched it. To be fair, I also watched it
on a plane. It was a great chuckle for an
hour and a half, but I like, love them together,
and then I was like, were they really together? Because
I think in the movie they make such a sweet couple.
People want to see it transpire in real life. I mean,
I know it wasn't a showman shit, but it makes
me think of Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie when they're
a mister and missus white.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
That was what it's smith having a baby in a
week and a half.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
My memory doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Okay, No, mister and missus Smith.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Obviously they were a married couple in the movie, and
every one shipped their relationship, and then when it started
to come out that maybe there was something going on
off screen, it just fed the beast. Everyone wanted to
go and see, like, what is this movie that they
fell in love with?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Okay, here's a question for you. You get to pick
anyone to be in showments with. Who is it? Who
are you picking?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I would have said Jason Momoa a million years ago,
but I feel like I'm past him now.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, I'm past him. Toss, all right, who's yours?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Who's yours?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Probably Jonathan Bailey?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
All right, guys, Well that's it from us today.
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