April 28, 2025 • 17 mins
Britt & Laura unpack the JoJo Siwa on CBBUK situation and what happens when your ex dates the person they told you not to worry about. Britt almost ate some VERY questionable things because she can't read Italian and Laura is concerned that she's at the age when you start 'having falls'.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hi Heart podcasts, hear more Kiss podcast playlist and listen
live on the Free iHeart app A good pickup with
britt Hockley and Laura ben Brady. What our windows? That
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
I've done merch, but yeah I'm our big get.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
And what a wa? It don't matter where that done?
This is the pickup. Hi, everyone, Happy Monday. It's the
pick up with Pretty Hockey and Laura Bath.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I hope you guys had a brilliant weekend.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I got the best news on the weekend that I
could have received. If you've been following along closely to
the pickup, or I guess the news in general, you
would have heard about the dog that has caught the nation.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Valerie the Dashound.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
She got lost on Kangaro Island eighteen months ago.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
No one is this hook to this story is what
Brittan Hockley is. No one.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I do love an animal story. I get sucked in.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
We know, so Valerie the Dashound moving on to catch
up to speed. She got lost eighteen months ago with
her owners on Kangaroo Island. Her owners didn't get lost,
but Valerie ran away when they were on like a
three day getaway. The owners had to return to normal
life after not being able to find her, and they
thought she must have just not made it and passed away.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Would you would think that a dashound doesn't, like we're
talking a sausage dog, doesn't have great survival skills.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
No, it's not the sort of dog you would want
to take into the wilderness.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, wild instincts.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
It was spotted over the.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Last eighteen months alive and thriving and just living its
best life in the wilderness, but no one could ever
capture it. And Australia has been on the edge of
their seat trying to see if they're going to ever
get Valerie back.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
And I can confirm over.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
The weekend Valerie, after eighteen months in the wilderness, living
on her own, eating roadkills, scavenging for food.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
And the forest and drinking like whatever the rain.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Has brought, she has been captured and she is on
her way back to her owners.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
It's incredible.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
What a good news story for a Monday. We're talking
five one hundred and twenty nine days a sausage dog.
This sausage dog is no longer a sausage dog. That's
a dingo, that's a wild dog. You can't take that
home now.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I would love to speak to the owners, maybe next
week if we can produce a Grace.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Just to see how Grace, just to see I don't
want to speak.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I'm curious to see how Valerie will adapt because the
owner said that she was obviously a very domesticated dog,
very reliant on her owners.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
And really like obsessed.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
What if she's turning into a savage that she's had
to do what she's had to do to survive.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
What if Brittany. I wonder if the rest of Australia
is as interested in getting the owner of Valerie on
But we'll find out.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I was in the Sawna yesterday and I was talking
to her although all these guys in the sauner, I
was like, hey, guys, have you heard about Valerie the
Dashi Hound?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
And Everyone's like no. I was like, never mind, I don't.
No one else cares as much as me. Now. The
thing that everyone in our office is talking about today
is Jojo Siwa and her big, very public breakup with
her partner Cath because of the scandal that has been
going down on Celebrity Big Brother UK. So if you're
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not across this. There has been, potentially, because we don't
know for sure, some emotional cheating that's gone on, but no,
that's confirmed.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
The emotional cheating is confirmed.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I'm still getting across this story because i gotta admit
I've not watched Celebrity Big Brother UK.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Well, yeah, so Jojo is in a relationship, well sorry,
was in a relationship with an Australian Kath Ebbs, and
they've been.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Seeing each other apparently since the.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
End of last year, and by all accounts, it looked
pretty amazing, like they were talking about marriage and it
looked like a really lovely, loving, beautiful relationship, one of
those things where you're like, wow, these two people found
each other in these crazy circumstances, and Kath was supporting
Jojo while she was in the Big Brother House. But
whilst she was in the house, Jojo formed this like
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insane close what started as a friendship with a guy
called Chris.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Chris Hughes is from the Island, and it.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Turned into this point where it almost made people uncomfortable
to watch. It was so close Laura that like they
sleep in the same bed together, They're always cuddling, laying.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
On top of each other's chest.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Like, yeah, I see some of the massaging that was
going on.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah. And at the start, a lot of people were like, oh,
it's just a beautiful friendship. JoJo's gay, JoJo's in a relationship,
so it's all good. And when they're in the spa together,
they're always cuddling, and they just became so insanely close
that it even started to make people in the Big
Brother House feel uncomfortable, and Paul Cath in Australia started
to get completely trolled online about what their partner was
(04:34):
doing over there. So I can't imagine what Cath was
going through, but it has just exploded. Well.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Kind of the summation of this is that Kath went
over to the UK for the Big Brother finale party
and Jojo broke up with them that night, So it
really and you know, I think watching this all unfold
very publicly, I cannot even imagine how difficult that would be.
But I still think you would give your partner the
benefit of the doubt. You know, you would see something
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and be like, oh, that makes me feel uncomfortable. I'm
sure there's an explanation of this. You know, I want
to deny my intuition, but I'm going to go and
be there and support them anyway. The reason why I
wanted to talk about this specifically is even though everyone
is discussing this whole situation between Jojo and Cath and
it is going down on social media, there was also
a really interesting Body and Soul article that came out
which was titled what do you do when your ex
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ends up with the person they told you not to
worry about? And I feel like a lot of people
may have experienced this where you have this sneaky suspicion
when you're together, or your intuition is telling you that
something just isn't right about this relationship or friendship. Maybe
it's a work colleague, maybe it's like a really close friend,
and then weeks later or months later after the breakup,
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it turns out that they're hooking up or they're together now,
and it makes you think, okay, well, then was something
there the whole time? Well?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I think the question here is if you say, what
do you do if you find out after the fact
you do nothing, who cares you?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Move on?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
But what I think is more important is when you're
in that relationship, listen to your intuition, like your body
is telling you that something is not right. That is
a response for a reason, Like it's not something that
you've made up in your ow. I mean, you might
have made it up in your head, but our bodies
give us that feeling because they know deep down something
is not right. And for me, every time I have
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had that feeling, I've always been the person that gives
the benefit of the doubt because like a.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Loah, love whatever.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
But it always turned out to be true. I remember
when I.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Was I've talked a bit about this guy that I
was with many moons ago, someone I thought I was
gonna marry that had this double life, like basically he
was marrying two people simultaneously, and he did that for
two years, right, And so I had these feelings all
the way through that at different times, and I always
ignored them.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
And there was this one particular time he was.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Overseas working he worked in the hospital overseas, and there
was this woman that was also working overseas with him,
and he was hanging out with her all the time,
and I remember saying, is there anything you want to
tell me? Like you're hanging out with this person a lot,
and He's like, yeah, it's just lonely over here, like
we're just my friend. Were just two people that have
been posted over here together to the point that he
was sending me selfies of them concerts together, and he
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was making it so obvious how often they were together
that it was like nothing could be going on, where like,
why would I be sending you photos of us together,
you know, like we're just hanging out all this time.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
And he was such a jerk.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
He was like, I'm not even attracted to her, like gross.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Anyway, in hindsight, they were hooking up the whole time, like,
and once I found that out, I was like, I
knew that. I was like, why didn't I just listen
to myself at the time. But you want to believe
what the person you love is telling you.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I mean, coming back to this situation with Jojo Siwa
and Kath Ebbs, obviously we don't know them, so we
are just speculating. But I would guess that Kath was
watching on and being like, well, surely if there was something,
it wouldn't be this obvious, and surely there's just a
friendship and it's not a sexual attraction. I am sure
that Kath doubted themselves in what they were thinking and
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probably needed to go over there for the clarity, and
the clarity came in a very sudden breakup.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
So yeah, I think from what Kath has come out
and said, is that they might have been slightly uncomfortable
with some of the stuff that they were seeing, but
they definitely wanted to be the relationship and work it
out and wanted to clarity. And I get the impression
and they were excited to go over and hang out
and spend that time, and to go over there and
then get dumped and then Jojo and Chris have since
(08:19):
been seen at a golf club specifically, they haven't confirmed.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
That anything's going on a golf clubs.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
From what I have seen, I feel for Cath, but
I do think that we'll see Chris and Jojo end
up coming out together.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
That's what I think.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I got myself into a real pickle, Laura, by choosing.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
The fiance that I have. I mean, he's great. I
think the people's fine.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
So my fiance is German. Well he's Swiss, but he
speaks Swiss, German and German, so I've been trying to
learn German. It is so hard, I've essentially given up.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
You have been trying to learn German for two years,
and I didn't want to insult you, but I don't
think you've made any progress. However, I find it quite
funny because you're the first person to pick on Ben
when he says something wrong in English.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
He's fifth language, but he.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Speaks literally six different languages.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
He speaks five, and I have so much satisfaction when
he gets a word wrong.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
But I don't give him a hard time. I just
I just couldn't laugh at him. The audacity that you
have to correct him in his English speaking when he
can speak.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Everything one hundred percent. And I understand what that says
about me. He did write, I did have a giggle.
It's really cute. His English is amazing, like I cannot falter,
but sometimes English is hard to write and read. But yes, say,
he did write to me, and he said he had
a toasty for lunch and he wrote tw stie and
I thought that was really cute. Toasty but that's how
it sounds right anyway.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
So he now lives in Italy.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
So I just went to Italy, and now I've realized
that I need to learn Italian.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
It's a new language. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
So I went over there, and I did have a
few mishaps with not being able to understand what I
was buying. So my sister and her partner also came
over and they had their little baby, Maya, who's ten
months old.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
And I went to the.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Supermarkets to get some things, and my sister asked me
to also get some baby food and I was like, yeah, cool,
And I was like, what does she have and she's.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Like, oh, just get the packet a raffertys.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
No, She's like, get some of those because it's easy, right,
like the yogur pouches that come with a swivel top.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
You squeeze them out like you all know those yogat pouches.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
That is literally Rafferty's oh is it? Yeah, Well, I
don't have a kid. I don't know the names.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Sorry, And this is not sponsored, Lauren.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Sorry, it's it's just the one that I used to buy. Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
So anyway, I got some other stuff for Ben too,
So fast forward, I go to my sisters to give
her the baby food, and I'm in charge of feeding
the baby because I'm you know, I'm like taking all
the time i can with my niece. I'm like, do
I want to have this soon? Do or want my
own child? Let's let's see. So I opened the yogur
My sister's like a couple of meters away, and I
go to squeeze out and I was like, that doesn't
look right, and.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
My sister looks over she goes. I was like, is
this what this is supposed.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
To look like?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
And she's like, what the hell is that?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
No, I go down and sniff it.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Dog food.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I got a squeezy pouch of dog food that I
was about to feed my ten month old knees.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Catfood would have been worse. Why does she smell it? Well,
maybe it was cat food. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
It was some kind of pet food. But in my defense,
it was quite like neutral packaging. And then there was
just like this really fine line art drawing of what
turned out to be an animal's face in.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
A bottom corner.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I don't think that this is something that is like
specific to being in another country. I don't know if
you remember this, Bree. It was a long time ago now,
but I got sent I have a dog. I have
a dog. I got sent a beautiful package of what
were little donut biscuits, and like it was obviously from
a very organic brand, made very naturally. It looked like
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something that you could have picked up at the farmer's markets.
And they were these cute little doughnut biscuits. I had
icing on top, and they were in little individual bags.
And my nephew at the time came over, he was
about four, and I gave it to him, didn't read
the packaging, didn't pay any attention to it, and I
handed him dog biscuits, of which he ate all of them,
which so at least I took it one step further.
(11:57):
You ended it before it could have gotten worse. But
like you know what, he's never had nicer biscuits. To
be fair, he's got to say immaculate.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
His hair was so shiny, males amazing. I think, my sisters,
I can't be in charge of looking after myer anymore.
Because then I went to make his coffees. This is
the same day from the same shop when to make
his coffees. And I went to pour in like the
long life milk into the coffee chicken stock, because it
both it just comes in the exact same don't you know.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Those like cardboard cartons.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
It comes in the same thing, and I can't read Italian.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
It's weird that one of them has a picture of
a chicken on the front, but like, you would never
guess that they didn't just milk a chicken.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
In Italy anyway, it was chicken stock, so obviously canned
that and canned the baby food.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
My I did not eat the baby food. But I'm like,
what am I gonna do?
Speaker 2 (12:45):
How am I ever going to go and live over
there successfully if I can't read anything?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
No, just smell things before you take really a stance.
I did. That's how I knew it was chicken stock.
I was like, this is really salty. I don't know.
I feel like maybe you just need to let Ben
be in charge of everything from now on.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Oh, don't let him hears it.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Now, Britt, Yes, I have a question for you. Hit
me what age? And I want a specific age? Am
I now?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
No?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Twenty seven? No, because it's always a lie. You always
You've never telled us the true never know. Even Daily
Mail doesn't know for sure. Every article there's something different
written about you.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
It changes every article because they'll be like, we'll get
it right.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
At one point. Okay, So everyone has fallen over, right,
like kids fall over. You know, you might have a
couple too many drinks on the weekend, you might fall over.
But when does the transition happen between when falling over
the description of that turns into having a fall. Oh,
like when you're old and just fall over, but you
had a fall.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I feel like it may be you know, great question.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
By the way, Laura, I'll just add that there.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I think maybe everyone's been considering on their Monday, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
The thing is, maybe it's when you can't get back up.
So do you think that's when you've had a fall
as opposed to fell over? It's like or when there's
a bad injury. It's definitely age related because you don't
say it.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I guess you do.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
For a kid, You're like, oh, they had a fall.
I don't know, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
It does sound very like retirement d doesn't it. So
either it's severity or age related. Yeah, But then it
can't just be a number of age. It's got to
be like the age of the person, because like some people,
you might get someone who's in the eighties, but they're
a really young person in the eighties. You get someone
in their seventies, but they're a really old person in
their seventies, Rightly, people don't just age the same. I
say this because I have recently, and I don't know
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why it is happening, but I have become particularly clumsy,
and in the space of three days, I had three
separate episodes where I fell over. We're not calling them falls.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
You can't call it an episode either. That's the age
things as well. If you've had an episode of.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Falls, you're doom. Well. I fell over three separate times,
and I'm not talking like little falls. I have a
massive bruise across the whole of my left ass cheek
because I fell over. All right, hang on, set me up.
First fall? What happened? And now my husband's describing them
as I'm having falls? Okay, First one, I was running
backwards on the beach because I was like chasing my
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daughter and I was running backwards she was chasing me,
and I didn't realize that directly behind me was a
massive log with sticks sticking out of it. And I
fell over the lo and I fell into the log
full of sticks, and then I rolled around on the
ground for a while because it hurt really bad. Okay,
I would say in front of people as well.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, I'd say you fell over for that one, that's
not a fool, okay. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
So then next day, we were at a rock platform,
so little cute rock pools and even ground yep. I
took one step onto the rock platform. Everyone else was
on there comfortably walking around looking at the crabs. I
took one step and I slipped in some algae and
then I rolled down the rock platform back on out
of the stets.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Okay, so green mosses entered the chat. I would also say,
in that circumstance, you fell over, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Three same day, but in the afternoon, I was rushing
because I had to go and pick up my daughter
ye and I was trying to get my youngest into
the car, and I was wearing crocheted pants and my
big toe from my left foot hooked into the crochet
hole of my pant in my right like my right pant,
and I tripped over my own pants. This one was
like I flew through the air and my phone went,
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my keys went. Everything was like a very dramatic and
my four year old walks up and she goes, mom,
what's wrong with you? Keep falling over all the time,
and I really don't have an answer for it.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I'm not sure I would say in that one that
you had a fall.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
The third one you had a fall.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Guys, do you know what I think I've realized it
is now that we've broken it down. I think having
a fall is when you fall for no apparent reason,
like you're just walking.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I just was walking.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, So I think that's when it is. Because you
got caught in your pants, that's having a fall. But
when you fall over backward, do you sleep on algae?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
You fell? So I also had I also had platform
sandals on, so I really I really took a dive.
But anyway, my four year old really added insult to injury.
The night of so like, she was very confused by
my constant falling over. And then that night I was
putting her in bed and I gave her her like
drink bottle and I like went to pat her hair
with my hand, and she just looked at me, and
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she looks at me with this real look of concern
on her face, and she goes, ummy, you're getting old,
And I was like, sorry, why why sweetart? She goes,
look at your hands and I look down at my hands,
and I have kind of particularly veiny hands. Also so
does Angelina. Jolly, sorry, you have.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Beautiful skin and young hands. You could be a hand
model with veins.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Thank you. I'll be a vain Yeah, I'm very good
if I need to go in and get anything done intravenously.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Like, yeah, I could calulate you easily.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yeah you could great. Okay, So you know, I was
slightly offended. But then she doubled down and I said,
I don't think my hands look that old, are they, sweetie?
And she goes yeah, and all the lines and then
she went through and pointed all the lines out on
my face, and so now I'm yeah, she told me
that I look more like a nana than a mum.
So I'm really anyway, guys, happy Monday. Oh my god,
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that is the worst.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
It's you know what, the lines I could deal with,
but saying you look more like a nana, that like
would hurt me. I'd be looking straight in from the bowtok,
I'll be like getting them on the line.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Give me everything clean, schedule, all right? So I booked
in for a facelift. Is happy next week? I'm six
weeks off. Everyone like me look like a baby,
Hi Heart podcasts, hear more Kiss podcast playlist and listen
live on the Free iHeart app A good pickup with
britt Hockley and Laura ben Brady. What our windows? That
my wor risen the dust? Only good thata dog all down?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I've done merch, but yeah I'm our big get.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
And what a wa? It don't matter where that done?
This is the pickup. Hi, everyone, Happy Monday. It's the
pick up with Pretty Hockey and Laura Bath.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I hope you guys had a brilliant weekend.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I got the best news on the weekend that I
could have received. If you've been following along closely to
the pickup, or I guess the news in general, you
would have heard about the dog that has caught the nation.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Valerie the Dashound.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
She got lost on Kangaro Island eighteen months ago.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
No one is this hook to this story is what
Brittan Hockley is. No one.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I do love an animal story. I get sucked in.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
We know, so Valerie the Dashound moving on to catch
up to speed. She got lost eighteen months ago with
her owners on Kangaroo Island. Her owners didn't get lost,
but Valerie ran away when they were on like a
three day getaway. The owners had to return to normal
life after not being able to find her, and they
thought she must have just not made it and passed away.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Would you would think that a dashound doesn't, like we're
talking a sausage dog, doesn't have great survival skills.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
No, it's not the sort of dog you would want
to take into the wilderness.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, wild instincts.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
It was spotted over the.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Last eighteen months alive and thriving and just living its
best life in the wilderness, but no one could ever
capture it. And Australia has been on the edge of
their seat trying to see if they're going to ever
get Valerie back.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
And I can confirm over.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
The weekend Valerie, after eighteen months in the wilderness, living
on her own, eating roadkills, scavenging for food.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
And the forest and drinking like whatever the rain.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Has brought, she has been captured and she is on
her way back to her owners.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
It's incredible.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
What a good news story for a Monday. We're talking
five one hundred and twenty nine days a sausage dog.
This sausage dog is no longer a sausage dog. That's
a dingo, that's a wild dog. You can't take that
home now.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I would love to speak to the owners, maybe next
week if we can produce a Grace.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Just to see how Grace, just to see I don't
want to speak.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I'm curious to see how Valerie will adapt because the
owner said that she was obviously a very domesticated dog,
very reliant on her owners.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
And really like obsessed.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
What if she's turning into a savage that she's had
to do what she's had to do to survive.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
What if Brittany. I wonder if the rest of Australia
is as interested in getting the owner of Valerie on
But we'll find out.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I was in the Sawna yesterday and I was talking
to her although all these guys in the sauner, I
was like, hey, guys, have you heard about Valerie the
Dashi Hound?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
And Everyone's like no. I was like, never mind, I don't.
No one else cares as much as me. Now. The
thing that everyone in our office is talking about today
is Jojo Siwa and her big, very public breakup with
her partner Cath because of the scandal that has been
going down on Celebrity Big Brother UK. So if you're
(03:09):
not across this. There has been, potentially, because we don't
know for sure, some emotional cheating that's gone on, but no,
that's confirmed.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
The emotional cheating is confirmed.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I'm still getting across this story because i gotta admit
I've not watched Celebrity Big Brother UK.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Well, yeah, so Jojo is in a relationship, well sorry,
was in a relationship with an Australian Kath Ebbs, and
they've been.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Seeing each other apparently since the.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
End of last year, and by all accounts, it looked
pretty amazing, like they were talking about marriage and it
looked like a really lovely, loving, beautiful relationship, one of
those things where you're like, wow, these two people found
each other in these crazy circumstances, and Kath was supporting
Jojo while she was in the Big Brother House. But
whilst she was in the house, Jojo formed this like
(03:53):
insane close what started as a friendship with a guy
called Chris.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Chris Hughes is from the Island, and it.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Turned into this point where it almost made people uncomfortable
to watch. It was so close Laura that like they
sleep in the same bed together, They're always cuddling, laying.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
On top of each other's chest.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Like, yeah, I see some of the massaging that was
going on.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah. And at the start, a lot of people were like, oh,
it's just a beautiful friendship. JoJo's gay, JoJo's in a relationship,
so it's all good. And when they're in the spa together,
they're always cuddling, and they just became so insanely close
that it even started to make people in the Big
Brother House feel uncomfortable, and Paul Cath in Australia started
to get completely trolled online about what their partner was
(04:34):
doing over there. So I can't imagine what Cath was
going through, but it has just exploded. Well.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Kind of the summation of this is that Kath went
over to the UK for the Big Brother finale party
and Jojo broke up with them that night, So it
really and you know, I think watching this all unfold
very publicly, I cannot even imagine how difficult that would be.
But I still think you would give your partner the
benefit of the doubt. You know, you would see something
(05:01):
and be like, oh, that makes me feel uncomfortable. I'm
sure there's an explanation of this. You know, I want
to deny my intuition, but I'm going to go and
be there and support them anyway. The reason why I
wanted to talk about this specifically is even though everyone
is discussing this whole situation between Jojo and Cath and
it is going down on social media, there was also
a really interesting Body and Soul article that came out
which was titled what do you do when your ex
(05:23):
ends up with the person they told you not to
worry about? And I feel like a lot of people
may have experienced this where you have this sneaky suspicion
when you're together, or your intuition is telling you that
something just isn't right about this relationship or friendship. Maybe
it's a work colleague, maybe it's like a really close friend,
and then weeks later or months later after the breakup,
(05:46):
it turns out that they're hooking up or they're together now,
and it makes you think, okay, well, then was something
there the whole time? Well?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I think the question here is if you say, what
do you do if you find out after the fact
you do nothing, who cares you?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Move on?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
But what I think is more important is when you're
in that relationship, listen to your intuition, like your body
is telling you that something is not right. That is
a response for a reason, Like it's not something that
you've made up in your ow. I mean, you might
have made it up in your head, but our bodies
give us that feeling because they know deep down something
is not right. And for me, every time I have
(06:20):
had that feeling, I've always been the person that gives
the benefit of the doubt because like a.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Loah, love whatever.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
But it always turned out to be true. I remember
when I.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Was I've talked a bit about this guy that I
was with many moons ago, someone I thought I was
gonna marry that had this double life, like basically he
was marrying two people simultaneously, and he did that for
two years, right, And so I had these feelings all
the way through that at different times, and I always
ignored them.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
And there was this one particular time he was.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Overseas working he worked in the hospital overseas, and there
was this woman that was also working overseas with him,
and he was hanging out with her all the time,
and I remember saying, is there anything you want to
tell me? Like you're hanging out with this person a lot,
and He's like, yeah, it's just lonely over here, like
we're just my friend. Were just two people that have
been posted over here together to the point that he
was sending me selfies of them concerts together, and he
(07:10):
was making it so obvious how often they were together
that it was like nothing could be going on, where like,
why would I be sending you photos of us together,
you know, like we're just hanging out all this time.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
And he was such a jerk.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
He was like, I'm not even attracted to her, like gross.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Anyway, in hindsight, they were hooking up the whole time, like,
and once I found that out, I was like, I
knew that. I was like, why didn't I just listen
to myself at the time. But you want to believe
what the person you love is telling you.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I mean, coming back to this situation with Jojo Siwa
and Kath Ebbs, obviously we don't know them, so we
are just speculating. But I would guess that Kath was
watching on and being like, well, surely if there was something,
it wouldn't be this obvious, and surely there's just a
friendship and it's not a sexual attraction. I am sure
that Kath doubted themselves in what they were thinking and
(07:54):
probably needed to go over there for the clarity, and
the clarity came in a very sudden breakup.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
So yeah, I think from what Kath has come out
and said, is that they might have been slightly uncomfortable
with some of the stuff that they were seeing, but
they definitely wanted to be the relationship and work it
out and wanted to clarity. And I get the impression
and they were excited to go over and hang out
and spend that time, and to go over there and
then get dumped and then Jojo and Chris have since
(08:19):
been seen at a golf club specifically, they haven't confirmed.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
That anything's going on a golf clubs.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
From what I have seen, I feel for Cath, but
I do think that we'll see Chris and Jojo end
up coming out together.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
That's what I think.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I got myself into a real pickle, Laura, by choosing.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
The fiance that I have. I mean, he's great. I
think the people's fine.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
So my fiance is German. Well he's Swiss, but he
speaks Swiss, German and German, so I've been trying to
learn German. It is so hard, I've essentially given up.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
You have been trying to learn German for two years,
and I didn't want to insult you, but I don't
think you've made any progress. However, I find it quite
funny because you're the first person to pick on Ben
when he says something wrong in English.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
He's fifth language, but he.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Speaks literally six different languages.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
He speaks five, and I have so much satisfaction when
he gets a word wrong.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
But I don't give him a hard time. I just
I just couldn't laugh at him. The audacity that you
have to correct him in his English speaking when he
can speak.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Everything one hundred percent. And I understand what that says
about me. He did write, I did have a giggle.
It's really cute. His English is amazing, like I cannot falter,
but sometimes English is hard to write and read. But yes, say,
he did write to me, and he said he had
a toasty for lunch and he wrote tw stie and
I thought that was really cute. Toasty but that's how
it sounds right anyway.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
So he now lives in Italy.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
So I just went to Italy, and now I've realized
that I need to learn Italian.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
It's a new language. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
So I went over there, and I did have a
few mishaps with not being able to understand what I
was buying. So my sister and her partner also came
over and they had their little baby, Maya, who's ten
months old.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
And I went to the.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Supermarkets to get some things, and my sister asked me
to also get some baby food and I was like, yeah, cool,
And I was like, what does she have and she's.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Like, oh, just get the packet a raffertys.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
No, She's like, get some of those because it's easy, right,
like the yogur pouches that come with a swivel top.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
You squeeze them out like you all know those yogat pouches.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
That is literally Rafferty's oh is it? Yeah, Well, I
don't have a kid. I don't know the names.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Sorry, And this is not sponsored, Lauren.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Sorry, it's it's just the one that I used to buy. Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
So anyway, I got some other stuff for Ben too,
So fast forward, I go to my sisters to give
her the baby food, and I'm in charge of feeding
the baby because I'm you know, I'm like taking all
the time i can with my niece. I'm like, do
I want to have this soon? Do or want my
own child? Let's let's see. So I opened the yogur
My sister's like a couple of meters away, and I
go to squeeze out and I was like, that doesn't
look right, and.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
My sister looks over she goes. I was like, is
this what this is supposed.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
To look like?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
And she's like, what the hell is that?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
No, I go down and sniff it.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Dog food.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I got a squeezy pouch of dog food that I
was about to feed my ten month old knees.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Catfood would have been worse. Why does she smell it? Well,
maybe it was cat food. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
It was some kind of pet food. But in my defense,
it was quite like neutral packaging. And then there was
just like this really fine line art drawing of what
turned out to be an animal's face in.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
A bottom corner.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I don't think that this is something that is like
specific to being in another country. I don't know if
you remember this, Bree. It was a long time ago now,
but I got sent I have a dog. I have
a dog. I got sent a beautiful package of what
were little donut biscuits, and like it was obviously from
a very organic brand, made very naturally. It looked like
(11:35):
something that you could have picked up at the farmer's markets.
And they were these cute little doughnut biscuits. I had
icing on top, and they were in little individual bags.
And my nephew at the time came over, he was
about four, and I gave it to him, didn't read
the packaging, didn't pay any attention to it, and I
handed him dog biscuits, of which he ate all of them,
which so at least I took it one step further.
(11:57):
You ended it before it could have gotten worse. But
like you know what, he's never had nicer biscuits. To
be fair, he's got to say immaculate.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
His hair was so shiny, males amazing. I think, my sisters,
I can't be in charge of looking after myer anymore.
Because then I went to make his coffees. This is
the same day from the same shop when to make
his coffees. And I went to pour in like the
long life milk into the coffee chicken stock, because it
both it just comes in the exact same don't you know.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Those like cardboard cartons.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
It comes in the same thing, and I can't read Italian.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
It's weird that one of them has a picture of
a chicken on the front, but like, you would never
guess that they didn't just milk a chicken.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
In Italy anyway, it was chicken stock, so obviously canned
that and canned the baby food.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
My I did not eat the baby food. But I'm like,
what am I gonna do?
Speaker 2 (12:45):
How am I ever going to go and live over
there successfully if I can't read anything?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
No, just smell things before you take really a stance.
I did. That's how I knew it was chicken stock.
I was like, this is really salty. I don't know.
I feel like maybe you just need to let Ben
be in charge of everything from now on.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Oh, don't let him hears it.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Now, Britt, Yes, I have a question for you. Hit
me what age? And I want a specific age? Am
I now?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
No?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Twenty seven? No, because it's always a lie. You always
You've never telled us the true never know. Even Daily
Mail doesn't know for sure. Every article there's something different
written about you.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
It changes every article because they'll be like, we'll get
it right.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
At one point. Okay, So everyone has fallen over, right,
like kids fall over. You know, you might have a
couple too many drinks on the weekend, you might fall over.
But when does the transition happen between when falling over
the description of that turns into having a fall. Oh,
like when you're old and just fall over, but you
had a fall.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I feel like it may be you know, great question.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
By the way, Laura, I'll just add that there.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I think maybe everyone's been considering on their Monday, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
The thing is, maybe it's when you can't get back up.
So do you think that's when you've had a fall
as opposed to fell over? It's like or when there's
a bad injury. It's definitely age related because you don't
say it.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I guess you do.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
For a kid, You're like, oh, they had a fall.
I don't know, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
It does sound very like retirement d doesn't it. So
either it's severity or age related. Yeah, But then it
can't just be a number of age. It's got to
be like the age of the person, because like some people,
you might get someone who's in the eighties, but they're
a really young person in the eighties. You get someone
in their seventies, but they're a really old person in
their seventies, Rightly, people don't just age the same. I
say this because I have recently, and I don't know
(14:25):
why it is happening, but I have become particularly clumsy,
and in the space of three days, I had three
separate episodes where I fell over. We're not calling them falls.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
You can't call it an episode either. That's the age
things as well. If you've had an episode of.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Falls, you're doom. Well. I fell over three separate times,
and I'm not talking like little falls. I have a
massive bruise across the whole of my left ass cheek
because I fell over. All right, hang on, set me up.
First fall? What happened? And now my husband's describing them
as I'm having falls? Okay, First one, I was running
backwards on the beach because I was like chasing my
(15:01):
daughter and I was running backwards she was chasing me,
and I didn't realize that directly behind me was a
massive log with sticks sticking out of it. And I
fell over the lo and I fell into the log
full of sticks, and then I rolled around on the
ground for a while because it hurt really bad. Okay,
I would say in front of people as well.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, I'd say you fell over for that one, that's
not a fool, okay. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
So then next day, we were at a rock platform,
so little cute rock pools and even ground yep. I
took one step onto the rock platform. Everyone else was
on there comfortably walking around looking at the crabs. I
took one step and I slipped in some algae and
then I rolled down the rock platform back on out
of the stets.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Okay, so green mosses entered the chat. I would also say,
in that circumstance, you fell over, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Three same day, but in the afternoon, I was rushing
because I had to go and pick up my daughter
ye and I was trying to get my youngest into
the car, and I was wearing crocheted pants and my
big toe from my left foot hooked into the crochet
hole of my pant in my right like my right pant,
and I tripped over my own pants. This one was
like I flew through the air and my phone went,
(16:04):
my keys went. Everything was like a very dramatic and
my four year old walks up and she goes, mom,
what's wrong with you? Keep falling over all the time,
and I really don't have an answer for it.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I'm not sure I would say in that one that
you had a fall.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
The third one you had a fall.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Guys, do you know what I think I've realized it
is now that we've broken it down. I think having
a fall is when you fall for no apparent reason,
like you're just walking.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I just was walking.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, So I think that's when it is. Because you
got caught in your pants, that's having a fall. But
when you fall over backward, do you sleep on algae?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
You fell? So I also had I also had platform
sandals on, so I really I really took a dive.
But anyway, my four year old really added insult to injury.
The night of so like, she was very confused by
my constant falling over. And then that night I was
putting her in bed and I gave her her like
drink bottle and I like went to pat her hair
with my hand, and she just looked at me, and
(16:59):
she looks at me with this real look of concern
on her face, and she goes, ummy, you're getting old,
And I was like, sorry, why why sweetart? She goes,
look at your hands and I look down at my hands,
and I have kind of particularly veiny hands. Also so
does Angelina. Jolly, sorry, you have.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Beautiful skin and young hands. You could be a hand
model with veins.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Thank you. I'll be a vain Yeah, I'm very good
if I need to go in and get anything done intravenously.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Like, yeah, I could calulate you easily.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yeah you could great. Okay, So you know, I was
slightly offended. But then she doubled down and I said,
I don't think my hands look that old, are they, sweetie?
And she goes yeah, and all the lines and then
she went through and pointed all the lines out on
my face, and so now I'm yeah, she told me
that I look more like a nana than a mum.
So I'm really anyway, guys, happy Monday. Oh my god,
(17:50):
that is the worst.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
It's you know what, the lines I could deal with,
but saying you look more like a nana, that like
would hurt me. I'd be looking straight in from the bowtok,
I'll be like getting them on the line.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Give me everything clean, schedule, all right? So I booked
in for a facelift. Is happy next week? I'm six
weeks off. Everyone like me look like a baby,
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