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July 10, 2025 • 14 mins

Laura recieved a drawing of herself from her daughter that left her feeling very exposed. A Harvard professor has revealed the secret to a longlasting marriage and Britt was caught in the nude on her Honeymoon. 

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Good Pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Burn Radio work, Our windows done, That's my world. Risen
the dust only good fabround.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
I've done much, but yeah, I know our big get
and what I want.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
It don't matter where.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
This is the pickup Pappy Friday, everybody is the pickout
with Brett Hockey and Laura Brn.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
You know I'm gonna call Friday from now on Freezing Friday.
I I am so cold in my own home.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
It should be illegal.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
The housing in Australia, nothing is made for the winter.
I need to wear, not exaggerating inside my home. I
wear a beanie thermals, a winter coat, socks and track
pants just to just to exist.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Like do you get around what this might I was
a surprise to a lot of people who are listening
right now.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
But Britt lives in my old apartment.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
So I lived in that house for three years and
then when I moved out, Britt very conveniently just kind
of like rotated on it. So I understand it is
very cold, but you can just buy it.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Get a gas heater. I've been telling you this for
literally three years now. I mean, you do pay my
gas for me.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
You pay my gas bill, which you know, funny, so
maybe I will get multiple gas heaters on.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Gas my whole house.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
So when when I left my apartment and I moved
into a new house, we just never canceled the gas bill.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
And so I've been paying BRIT's gas four years.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Now, and I just I just forward on the invoice
and then you pay me back.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
I'm and then I pay her. It's actually so fun.
It's I ran a relationship with each other because we're
too lazy to do anything. We're both the same kind
of a person. Neither of us want to call up
and cancel and change it over.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Well, look, yeah, Britt, I feel like being a parent
it's hard. Sometimes it's really hard, actually, And that's it
from us today.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
That's where the show we have discovered it is indeed hot.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
I feel like it comes part inhole that sometimes your
kids are gonna do stuff that embarrasses you. Oh yeah,
and you just got to take it on the chin
like a champion because they don't really know.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
I don't think they do.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Sometimes maybe it's malicious, but other times I think it's
really innocent, and they just don't know that what they've
said or what they've done is kind of not appropriate.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, adults stands.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
It's like when you see those videos go around where
like the little kid goes to school and tells everyone
that they heard mommy and daddy screaming in the room
in the night, like you know, when they get we
were playing.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Gorillas, Yeah, we're playing wrestling. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Look, I mean we've all got our own version of that.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
With our own kids.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
But I went in to pick up Marley May from
school the other day and she goes to after school care.
So I walked into after school care and there's all
these lovely, really young, beautiful young girls who like work
in the after school care center, right, got it, And
they're gorgeous and they take such good care of the kids.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Walk in.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Then the girl who's like the main director, she just
starts kickling, and I was like, oh, nice to see
you too, darling, and she goes, I've got something for you.
She's like, Marley's been drawing some pitch cute and let
me tell you, like, my kids draw a thousand pictures.
We have draws and draws and draws full of drawings
that we keep.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
And well, no, I don't keep them all. I only
keep the good ones. We've had to start culling, like
the menet.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, I'll tell her. I'll say that one's not good
enough to keep. And she was like, I wanted to
put this aside for you. She's like, because I think
you'd really like to keep this one. And I walk
in and I get this picture, and I just want
to show you what it's of, Britt because I think
she's captured me in my raw and beautiful essence.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
We can say draw.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
So marleis she's started to revert to drawing me pregnant
now because she's really excited about being a big sister.
She's so thrilled she got, so she drew a picture
of me and my pregnant belly, and she drew the
baby inside the belly. It's kind of like a cross
between an X ray because you can see inside me,
but you can also see a red porn well an

(04:08):
extra and just a really graphic detail photo. You can
see inside me, but you can also see the outside
of me, and I'm completely naked. She has drawn boobs
with nipples, very big nipples.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
We all understand why. And she's also drawn.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Me with a fool bush. Okay, So then what happened
is she drew this and some of her friends were confused.
They were like, what's.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Going on here? Mummy's lazy.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
So then it turns out that my daughter had a
full on debrief with all her friends about whether their
parents or their mummies do or don't have hair on
their downstairs.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
So funny.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
So when I picked Marley up, did anyone else kids
draw nudes? No one else drew a nude, But I
know what every other mum's downstairs looks like. So three
kids came up to me and they were like, Marley
told us that you've got hair down there. My mummy doesn't.
My mummy doesn't have any hair. You need to put
that nut. WhatsApp, group chat, the school group chat.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Are so funny. Be like, hey, there it is. What's
everyone doing downstairs? Just like throw it in there. I
was like, surely, hey, Sharon, what lazy you go to?

Speaker 1 (05:07):
So I don't know what to do with this now?
Do I put it on the fridge. It's really a
beautiful way for me.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
To take it. I reckon, there's somewhere a.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Bit lazier, right, it's quite hot when you're pregnant. Don't
want to reach down there. Just let it go it anyway.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
If there's a bit of like hyperbole here or I
don't know what's going on, but this, yeah, you need
to get that tended to.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
I reckon. I could get my gardener to come over.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Go get a wik whack up anyway, what like a
whipper sniffer, not a wik whacker like way, what we're
talking about the same thing anyway. Look, being a mum
is full of joy and so many special moments.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Now, we have been.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Talking a lot about weddings on this show, and that
is because Brittany got married in Bali. But I have
a question for you now that you are, I mean
you're in newlywed. What do you think is the key
indicator of a long term, happy marriage?

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Long distance living in different countries, seeing.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Each other sporadically like see a great Wi Fi connection.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Continuing to have a honeymoon romance, but expanse for forever.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
All right.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Well, look, the reason why I want to talk about
this is because there was a Harvard professor who is
uncovered the secrets to a lasting relationship, and one might
think it's passion one might think it's having a hot, steamy,
romantic time, but it certainly doesn't seem to be it.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Have a listen to this.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
Happiest marriages are those characterized. But what we call companionate
love not passionate love. I mean passionate love is at
the very beginning, when you're actually bonding to each other, Like,
what do you want to get to within five years?
Is best friendship? And best friendship is a magical thing.
And you get to live with your best friend, so
you get to watch TV with every night and.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
They've got your back on literally everything. Oh I think
it's not.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
I'm sorry, pretty mud you uncovered the secret.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Make sure your friends with your partner. Sorry, no, I agree.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
With him, but it's like, I feel like it's pretty
Obviouscuse me. This is a Harvard professor. Don't pooh pooh
his research. Goddamn it, he's been doing this for twenty years.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Told him twenty years ago. He's been studying love for
twenty years. No, okay.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
I The reason why I kind of love this is
because I do think in relationships sometimes we put so
much emphasis on keeping the spark alive and having this passionate,
all consuming relationship.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
But I also think that sometimes that all consuming.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Super passionate relationships can be the most toxic and most problematic.
And if you'd asked me years ago what kind of
relationship I wanted, I would have said fireworks, money, no,
not abs, abs, private ship, anny no. I would have
said I loved like the intensity of it. And I

(07:45):
definitely had that with my husband when we first met. Like,
I'm not going to say that that didn't exist.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
You were also fighting thirty other women for him, though
the intensity was there.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
So the intensity was so there. It couldn't have been
more intense. Oh, it was a competition and I was
gonna win.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
But didn't even like him.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
We've been together eight years now, and I honestly think
one of the best things about our relationship is that
we are best friends.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
We have so much fun together. We love hanging out together.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
And you know, when I listen to this, I think
that sometimes you can you can get a bit caught
up in like, oh, we're keeping the spark alive, but
we're doing all the things that we need to do
in our relationship in order to like still have that connection.
But it's so nice to hear that, Like the number
one definer is that friendship is also so so important.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
I just can't stop giggling every time you say it.
It's just not rocket science that you need to be
friends with your partner. But what I do like that
he says is about the fact that it's really important
to know that your intimacy levels change and they decrease,
like it's normal to have less drive and passion and
for want of another word, if you can read between
the lines here for three PM, but that is normal
in a long term relationship. And I like that he's

(08:48):
reiterating that, But I feel a bit bad for him
that he's spent twenty years studying this to that you
need to be friends with your partner.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
It's not just friends, though I disagree, it's best friends.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
And I say this, shut up.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
I say this because there are a lot of people
out there, and I'm sure there's people listening to this
who are like, yeah, I'm friends with my partner. Of
course I love him or I love her. We're really
really close, but like they're not my number one for
best friend. Like I go to my girls and I
tell them X y Z before I.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Tell my husband.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
People have different relationships for sure, but like, what a
nice place to be out when it's like the first
person you want to tell everything to is your partner
you're going to spend the rest of your life with.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Britz No, I just shut up, Britty No.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
This is a shared radio show and you're allowed to
talk about the things that you want.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
To talk about as well. And Brittie's like, I'm allowed
to pooprove them. So anyway, happy marriage to you.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Now. Laura's been taking the mini you have because because
I got married, I also decided to have a few
mini moons, like a few little mini honeymoons, because let
me set the scene, I had to go back to
work straight after the wedding, so we didn't have time
for a big honeymoon. So what my husband Ben and
I decided to do was try to make the most

(10:02):
of the time we had together, which is literally like
a few little three day micro trips like honeymoon.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Oh I'm not I am not making like that's great.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
I'm all for that. I know the story you're about
to tell because you told her on our podcast this morning.
You laugh on cut podcast, but I am still so
humiliated for you, Like I'm all right, you should kind
of crawl into a hole and never come back.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Okay, well, let me set the scene. So we went
to the Wit.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Sundays, we went up to Hayman Island, which is like gorgeous, stunning.
I like to say it's a bit of a cross
between The Truman Show and White Lotus because once you
go there, there's nowhere else to go, Like, you're on
the island and it's it's amazing, but.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
It's like whatever, and the sky could actually be a
paper roll.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
We just don't know. Yeah, the sky could be a
paper roll.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
So Ben and I were staying at this beautiful resort
that has like the main part of the resort, which
is like apartments like normal resort rooms, and then like
a couple of hundred meters away there's like a more
private area where you're in your own little bungalow room.
It's like called a pavilion, and they're not attached, but
they are only a couple of meters apart, and they're

(11:07):
sort of line a beach, so you could you can
lay in bed, and then a meter away from you
is a whole glass wall that looks out onto the
beach in the ocean, and you get it's stunning, but
you cannot be more beachfront. Like you walk out of
your door and within three meters you're on the sand,
like romantically walking up and down the beach. And so

(11:28):
the idea is you've got a little private area to yourself.
But also people can still walk pass like other people
still walking to their billars.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
It's still a beach. It's still a beach.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
So I was just living my absolute best life there.
It was all glass walls everywhere, so you could see
out like every view, and I thought the best part
about it was the fact that it had like this
two way glass where you could see out perfectly, but
they can't see in, and I thought that's magical.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
So I was like living my best life. I love
to be naked.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
I love it when I'm in my house, Like I
will walk around neaked all the time. I would cook naked,
I will do everything. It's quite liberating. And so Ben's
been training a lot for his next football season, so
he's been going to the gym a lot without me,
and I was just like staying naked, eating pringles in bed, naked,
watching TV, naked, doing yoga, naked, like you name it.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
I was doing it just.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Living in your own house, naked, in the privacy of
your own room.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yeah, for three days, fully protected. And there was something
like I've never really been like that before. There was
something quite like I don't know what the word is,
but knowing I'm sitting there naked on the bed, looking
at people walking past, and I'm eating pringles and knowing
that they're so close to me but couldn't see me,
there was like something in that.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
I think it's it's like, really, yeah, it really taps
into your voyeurism for sure, like if you had a
voyeurism king there it is, brit it isn't.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
It isn't because I knew that they couldn't see me,
but I still felt something knowing that it was so close.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Anyway, after three days of this, Ben.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Comes back from the gym and I'm nude, just sitting
on the edge of the bed admiring the view, and
there's a family walking past out the front and Ben,
my husband.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Walks in it. He goes Brendany, he's what are you doing?
I said, what do you mean? What am I doing?

Speaker 3 (13:07):
And He's like, why are you naked? And I was like, Babe,
I've been naked for three days. I was like, it's okay,
We're in our own apartment and he's.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Like yeah, but people are literally looking at you. I
was like, Ben, it's two way glass. They can't see in.
He's like, baby, it's not two way glass. He's like,
I just walked up the beach and saw you Knute inside.
It was like, what are you doing? And I was like,
what do you mean.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
I put clothes on and I go out the front
onto the beach where this poor family just was.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
It is not two way glass. It is just a
normal window. It's a normal window.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
So for three days I have been thinking that people
can't see me.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
No one knows what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Why would you assume, like, surely you've been out the
front of your own apartment.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
No, because it was such a dark tinted glass. But
I've worked out the tint is just for the sunlight.
It's like it's to stop the sunlight. But I just
assumed it would make sense.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
To have a private bunkle over the glass.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
The best part of this story is one day Brick
called someone to come and fix the spa which was
on the balcony.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
So this guy comes to fix the spa.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
And he's on the fixing this bar and Brittany's standing
inside at the two way glass, totally topless, watching, just watching.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
I was like he was doing a great job. He
did take a while anyway.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Lesson law PSA, never assume that a glass is two
way unless you have been locked up in jail.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
What well you know when you're an interrogation room, that's
when it's two way. Do you also mean one way glass? Yeah?
I get it, one way two way glass? Oh my god,
say I just realize. Did was Clint out the whole time? Yes,
one way glass?

Speaker 3 (14:44):
If anyone plainting at home that was thinking what and
more on two wear glass?

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yeah, I thought it was one and he's like, yes,
everyone could see me. I intew it the whole time.
I always knew it, and I leant him to it.
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