June 3, 2025 • 15 mins
Natalija from Lipstick Investigations joins Britt & Laura on the Pick Up, and Britt had FOMO after Laura's Bird Quiz so we had to test her on an animal of her own.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
High Heart Podcasts, hear more Kiss podcast playlist and listen
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Good Pickup with Britt Hogley and Laura Burn Baby, your work,
our windows done that my world reason the dust only
good labs all down.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I don't much, but yeah I'm not.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I'll big get and what I want. It don't matter
where that goes.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
This is the pickup, Hi guys, It's the pickup with
Britt Hogley and Laura Burn Free. I am my husband
started doing something that I would like to get a
gauge of the room. Read it the room. Everyone does
Ben do things to you purposely because he knows it
annoys you, just to get a rise out of you.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I mean, yeah, there's always little things.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Matt's going through this period. At the moment he thinks
it's really funny. I'm like pregnant and bit slow werth
of what I used to be. I could be washing
the dishes. Usually it's when I'm busy doing something with
my hands. He'll run up from behind us, pull my
pants done and my underweth and he does it.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
All the time.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
That's where Lola gets it from. You said, Lola went
to that phase.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
It's not funny and yesterday, so like our house is
two stories, and like underneath the stairs is like a
little bench space where we keep stuff. It's kind of
like little coveredy space, except it doesn't have doors.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I know it well.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So I was like stalking some stuff there that belongs
under the cupboard, and I'm standing up, so I'm like
in the middle of sorting something. So I have things
in my hands, both hands full. He pulls my pants
down and my underwear down, so there are down around
my ankles and I flung around to get and annoyed
at him, and I spacked my head straight into the
stairs and he then just runs away and thinks it's
so funny. And I think I'm married to a child,
(01:45):
Like I think he's regressing.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Okay, hang on. There is that video that was going
off online and it was so wholesome.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Everyone was like, oh my god, a couple goals and
it's the it's from CCTV footage in an airport and
there's a couple and they're like.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
In their seventies or eighties.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
They're like old, the hunched over. He's got a walking
stick and he's walking along with his walking stick and
his wife who's also eighty runs up behind him and
pulls his pants down, and she runs off giggling, and
he's stuck in.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
The middle of the airport.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
That will be mad.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
It's like that. It was everyone's like a couple of girls.
It was really cute because he couldn't pull.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Them up because he's so old. He does it to
me all the time. Do you know what the other
thing is?
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Though?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
He does it to his mom sometimes too, and so like,
that's weird.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I know, you can't pull your mum's pants down. Sorry,
he's resting her head on a lap to get head pats.
He's pulling your pants down.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
We need to talk.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
He just thinks it's really funny. Tricks to that, Matt anyway, look.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Your mom, like, it's not fun.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Now.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Do you know something that has like come into my
algorithm recently? A plant?
Speaker 5 (02:45):
No?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I mean I'm pretty hardcore on the plant content as well,
but no, I've been served quite a few private investigators.
And look at when you get on someone's explore page,
how did you end up here? No, there's a couple
of accounts that I follow that I am absolutely obsessed with,
and they're female investigators who go in and try and
(03:07):
find like you know, husbands who are cheating, or like,
you know, find the truth behind the mystery. And if
you've ever been in a relationship where you just like
don't know from your elbow from your buttthole, like honestly,
you might have felt as though maybe hiring a private
investigator is your only hope in getting the answers that
you're probably looking for. Okay, yeah, okay, I mean I've
(03:28):
never done it. I absolutely had moments in my past
relationship where I thought like, could I be that person?
Like could I hire someone?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I'm surprised, is that a retrochical question or can I
answer it?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I'm surprised you haven't ever done it, because it's definitely
like a tendency that I feel like could come out
for you.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
No, No, I don't think that. I think it's like
you've got to be in a pretty hard situation to
get to the point of hiring a private investigator. Yeah,
but I would love to know how do people get
into this, Like what are the kinds of things that
they are trying to uncover, and like in terms of
when someone has a suspicion and actually getting someone and
employing them on the case, how often is it that
their suspicions are usually true? Or do have Natalia? Who's
(04:07):
on the phone. So Natalie is a private investigator. She
works for a company called Lipstick Investigations. Great, and she's
been doing it for twelve years. And Natalia, welcome to
the show.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Hi. How are you girls?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Say, f how did you get into this line of work? Like,
how did you get into being a private investigator?
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Well, my friends do like to call me a stalker,
just a little bit ad time, the vigilant time. Yes,
always exposed the truth, you know. Look, so twelve years
ago it was just a tape course. It was a
certificate three in investigative services.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Yes, So unfortunately, look I don't know about tape courses anymore.
So you have to go through a current private company.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
So yeah, and so was there something that happened in
your life, like something that sort of set you off?
Were you trying to look at things in your own
life or a relationship or like, there has to be
something that made you want to solve these crimes.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Look, when I was younger, I grew up watching like
Bronic Khmas and James Bond and like Lara Cofts and
all that sort of thing. So I was like all
female empowerment, you know, and I always just have a
lot of girlfriends who, let's say, oh, look, I think
my boyfriend's cheating on me. I just have all these
hard feelings in there a way that we can find
out if it's cheating, and I'm like, you know what,
I'll just follow him and see what is up to
(05:23):
for the day. And it's just pretty much yeah. So
it was just a knack from the beginning of it,
you know. So I just thought, okay, just actually actually
quite both of this.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
So is that the most common kind of things that
you get called into where it's like women who think
their husbands are cheating on them? Or is there a
specific type of like I don't even know. Do we
call it a crime, a crime against emotions?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I don't know, but a moral crime, a moral crime?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Like what is the most frequent thing that you get
called to do?
Speaker 5 (05:48):
So we do do a lot of impidelity based works,
a lot of like cheating husband, cheating wife, boyfriend's girlfriends,
anything that you can think of, pretty much, And it's
quite unfortunate, but it's fortunate in a way because there's
always going to be a teeter to.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Say, do you think there's like one case.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I don't know if you're like how much your allowed
to tell us, but is there a case that you
tell us about that was just so crazy, like you
couldn't even believe it.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Yes, Early in my career, actually I had a job
where a male was out with his female companion, she
was actually his mistress, and he had told his wife
that he was coming home, and the wife had said
that to him that she was working late from work,
so she wasn't going to be in the house, but
she actually was in fact in the house and inside
(06:34):
the closet the years. So he actually went to the
Marrital home and took his mistress to the home, not
knowing that his wife was actually inside the bedroom closet.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Do that to yourself?
Speaker 3 (06:48):
What a dirt bag?
Speaker 5 (06:50):
Right?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
And then did she like string out at the right moment?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Cima.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
So the male and his mistress actually went into the
Maryor home and then maybe about five to seven minutes later,
the mistress comes out, and then maybe about five minutes
after that, about six cock car's name, the wife's just
running now trying to like attack the mistress. The husbands
trying to pull apart the wife and the mistresses. Oh
my god, it was intense, Like even just remembering it
(07:16):
right now, I lost for words for it.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
That was just could you imagine? I feel like, at
least if you've got the information, like, why would you
subject yourself to hiding in a cupboard to see it firsthand?
Speaker 4 (07:26):
I don't know, I understand why some people would, like
some people probably don't believe it, not unless they've seen it.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Now, I want to know, when you go out and
you and you follow someone or you're investigating someone, how
often is it that the conclusion is they've actually been cheating?
Like is it kind of a done deal that if
you get called onto the scene to kind of take
over this, that the likelihood that there's cheating there is
pretty high.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Well technically, like once you have that feeling that your
partner's cheating on you and you hire us, we're the
last step. So for you to have to hire us,
you know that it's happening, and we're just there to
provide the evidence at the end of the day. So
there has been obviously some cases in my twelve years
of working that it's just some times paranoia, like it's
not happening, that could be from a past trauma, from
(08:12):
a past relationship, and we're just there to be evidence
based at the end of the day. So I'd say
seventy percent yes if you think that you're partners cheating
on you and your part is cheady on you, and
thirty percent that it might just not be that and
it's just an insecurity.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Have you ever been sprung Like have you ever been
figured out by the person that you're tailing?
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Oh? Of course, Like, look, I'm not invisible. I mean
sometimes I'm invisible, but no, like, look, I've thought I
had bright red hair early in my career, so I
had it died, I was known as a spot. Yeah,
I have always known as the spy with the bright
red hair, and now I've got bright blue hair. So like, look,
I'm not that invisible. But you'd be surprised people don't
(08:53):
actually do pay attention to you, Like if you're they're cheating,
you're not looking around and going hey, who's that, Like
who's this? Who's that?
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Yeah, if I saw the same person like around my suburb,
you know, and I kept seeing them like someone with
red hair, my mind doesn't go to like, oh, they're
investigator following me, You're just like, well, I've been seeing
that person a lot, Like you don't put the two
together to be fair though, Like I don't think I
have a very good like face name recall and I reckon.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I could see the same person a couple of times
before even realizing that there was like you know that
there was a tiling here. Do you think being a
woman has helped you in this industry or do you
think it's been a hindrance at all?
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Oh no, it's actually been There's so many benefits from
being a female in his industry. You know, sometimes you
can get into nightclubs if you just flip the security
guards a little bit. If it's just like especially if
your subject is going into a nightcloud, they just go
up to security guards. You're like, I am a private investigator,
Like I think that that guy's cheating on his partner,
and the security guards they love it. They'll be like,
(09:49):
oh my god, really, like can we get on this?
Like do you want us to help you? Like it's right,
this go and everyone's the drama. Yeah, Like we'll help you,
like whatever you need to just tell us, like who
is it? Who is it? And I'm like, well, I
can't tell you who it is, but they just love it.
But being a female, it's Yeah, there's so many upsides
to it. Like I said, you get into more places
people don't really pay attention to you.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
So yeah, Talia, I find it's so fascinating. Like I said,
there's definitely been times in my past where I've contemplated.
I've never I've never hired one. If you never have God,
I don't think I'm ever going to have to use
my current husband, but current you always current husband if
he's not because I've had to hire someone like you.
No with my husband now, But God, you're doing God's work,
(10:33):
and Talia, you're doing God's work.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Sometimes like, look, it is a high job. People don't
think that it's hard, but it is mentally demanding, you know,
and sometimes you're like you're there at your client's worst points.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
You know.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
It's like they don't want to beg someone. Yeah, they
don't want to hire someone to see if their husband
or wife they're cheating on them, you know, And once
you find out that they are and you give them
the evidence, you kind of become like a little bit
of a counsel of them to know, but in saying that,
you can't really have a bias opinion either. So some
clients come to and they say, oh, even my husband,
a dictat, is cheating on me, and I'm like, oh, no,
(11:07):
I can't really say that.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Oh, thank you, Natalia. It was a pleasure to talk
to you.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
And hey, if anyone's listening Lipstick Investigations, if if you've
got a suspicion about a partner, you know who to call.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, you might get a boom and calls after this
thanks to Talia.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Thank you so much. Girl.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Now, if you were listening to the show yesterday, you
would know that I am I am the most skilled
at birds across the land. Actually, I didn't do as
well as I thought I would. And the backstory to
this is that I watched an episode of the new
game show The Floor, and I learned that I had
a hidden skill of knowing bird names. And I feel
deeply proud of this.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
I don't know why we did a bird quiz, I
like quick fire bird quiz.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I held up people.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I did so well.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I got one wrong one point five.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I just didn't know the bald part of the eagle,
but I knew it was an eagle and look, can
I just say, I will die on this hill. The
only bird I didn't get was a stalk, and that's
because it wasn't flying, it was just standing. No one
knows what a stalk looks like when it's standing. If
it is mid flight with a baby in its mouth.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
You would not, I feel like a real bird expert
would know.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Well, I'm mean I'm close. You were good, David Attenborough. Next,
I'm gonna be looking at you know, the fish and
the trawling and everything else that's happening in the worldhere
he's had.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
It was weird how much you knew, Like, it's a
weird skill to have.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Can I tell you it was weirder the fact that
you kind of were like weely upset and then angry
that you didn't have a test.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I upset or angry I had foma. I also want
a quiz.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
But you you're not proven yourself to be particularly good
at any one animal.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Oh wow, they're fighting words, Laura, I didn't know where
were there.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Well, we are, but britt has I mean you've spoken
about a little bit over the last two days. You
felt personally victimized.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah, I just wanted an animal quiz as well, So
the bird quid quizzed for me.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
And so the one animal that you seem to know
better than other animals but not particularly well, I don't think,
is dogs. So you said, where's my quiz? I want
an animal quiz? And what we have done is we've
gone out of our way to create, to replicate, to
see if you were, in fact an expert in dogs,
and if you can win some of my floor. Since
(13:09):
I clearly won the bird.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Game, I'm cracking my knuckles. I'm so excited about this.
How many dogs do we have?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Roll the game show music? We've got eight dogs. And
the way this is gonna work is it's like flash cards, guys.
I know it's more of an audio medium, but just
here here is that I'm in a hold of a
picture of the dog. You're gonna tell me what kind
of dog it is. And then for everyone you get right,
you get a point. It's pretty easy, get it.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
I run the quiz yesterday, got all right?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Well that's for anyone who's listening to the show. Okay,
and it's gonna start right now. What is this dog?
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Maltese or multipoo?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Absolutely not? Bish On Freezee Bishon freeze. Don't know how
to say this on freeze. Okay, that's wrong. Don't correct
me where you were wrong in the first place, because
I know it.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Now, keep going, okay, schnauz off.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Good yeah, no, just a normal one.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
But that's fine.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Ready and next quarterlie yep, good?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Oh this is the little one.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Will you don't know? Jack Rash, great, well done, well done, Brottweiler,
very good. This sounds an easy one.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Are you gonna get it?
Speaker 5 (14:17):
No?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
You you tea. You took too long, Jemmy Shepherd, Yeah,
all right, well we did it. You've only got fifty percent, right,
that's why we needed more to get.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Just say you hard dogs. Sorry, they were not mainstream dogs.
She got like a magpie. Sorry, I got a b
Shon freeze.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
It sounds like I've kind of breakfast in Paris, to
be fair, And I.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Didn't even know what a bishon freeze was, but I've
seen a few of these dogs before. Jon free Freeze.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
No, it's freeze, Bijeon freeze.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Well whatever, great. Sorry. Producer Grace is sitting there and
she's like, well, what's it called. No one cares about that.
I want to know. But I'm sure everyone's very confused
by what we're doing right now.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Why didn't you put my own dog in there?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Do you know what, Maybe we could start our own
game of the floor, but actually just have listeners call
up with their things that they're good at. We could
do this actually with listeners, because you know, there'd be
people who are much more skilled than what we have. Shock, Laura,
I know it's gonna be hard to find. We will
scour the nation, but we might find someone who knows
dogs better than bringing Hockley. Anyway, guys, that is it
from us today.
High Heart Podcasts, hear more Kiss podcast playlist and listen
live on the Free iHeart app.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Good Pickup with Britt Hogley and Laura Burn Baby, your work,
our windows done that my world reason the dust only
good labs all down.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I don't much, but yeah I'm not.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I'll big get and what I want. It don't matter
where that goes.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
This is the pickup, Hi guys, It's the pickup with
Britt Hogley and Laura Burn Free. I am my husband
started doing something that I would like to get a
gauge of the room. Read it the room. Everyone does
Ben do things to you purposely because he knows it
annoys you, just to get a rise out of you.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I mean, yeah, there's always little things.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Matt's going through this period. At the moment he thinks
it's really funny. I'm like pregnant and bit slow werth
of what I used to be. I could be washing
the dishes. Usually it's when I'm busy doing something with
my hands. He'll run up from behind us, pull my
pants done and my underweth and he does it.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
All the time.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
That's where Lola gets it from. You said, Lola went
to that phase.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
It's not funny and yesterday, so like our house is
two stories, and like underneath the stairs is like a
little bench space where we keep stuff. It's kind of
like little coveredy space, except it doesn't have doors.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I know it well.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So I was like stalking some stuff there that belongs
under the cupboard, and I'm standing up, so I'm like
in the middle of sorting something. So I have things
in my hands, both hands full. He pulls my pants
down and my underwear down, so there are down around
my ankles and I flung around to get and annoyed
at him, and I spacked my head straight into the
stairs and he then just runs away and thinks it's
so funny. And I think I'm married to a child,
(01:45):
Like I think he's regressing.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Okay, hang on. There is that video that was going
off online and it was so wholesome.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Everyone was like, oh my god, a couple goals and
it's the it's from CCTV footage in an airport and
there's a couple and they're like.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
In their seventies or eighties.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
They're like old, the hunched over. He's got a walking
stick and he's walking along with his walking stick and
his wife who's also eighty runs up behind him and
pulls his pants down, and she runs off giggling, and
he's stuck in.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
The middle of the airport.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
That will be mad.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
It's like that. It was everyone's like a couple of girls.
It was really cute because he couldn't pull.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Them up because he's so old. He does it to
me all the time. Do you know what the other
thing is?
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Though?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
He does it to his mom sometimes too, and so like,
that's weird.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I know, you can't pull your mum's pants down. Sorry,
he's resting her head on a lap to get head pats.
He's pulling your pants down.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
We need to talk.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
He just thinks it's really funny. Tricks to that, Matt anyway, look.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Your mom, like, it's not fun.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Now.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Do you know something that has like come into my
algorithm recently? A plant?
Speaker 5 (02:45):
No?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I mean I'm pretty hardcore on the plant content as well,
but no, I've been served quite a few private investigators.
And look at when you get on someone's explore page,
how did you end up here? No, there's a couple
of accounts that I follow that I am absolutely obsessed with,
and they're female investigators who go in and try and
(03:07):
find like you know, husbands who are cheating, or like,
you know, find the truth behind the mystery. And if
you've ever been in a relationship where you just like
don't know from your elbow from your buttthole, like honestly,
you might have felt as though maybe hiring a private
investigator is your only hope in getting the answers that
you're probably looking for. Okay, yeah, okay, I mean I've
(03:28):
never done it. I absolutely had moments in my past
relationship where I thought like, could I be that person?
Like could I hire someone?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I'm surprised, is that a retrochical question or can I
answer it?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I'm surprised you haven't ever done it, because it's definitely
like a tendency that I feel like could come out
for you.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
No, No, I don't think that. I think it's like
you've got to be in a pretty hard situation to
get to the point of hiring a private investigator. Yeah,
but I would love to know how do people get
into this, Like what are the kinds of things that
they are trying to uncover, and like in terms of
when someone has a suspicion and actually getting someone and
employing them on the case, how often is it that
their suspicions are usually true? Or do have Natalia? Who's
(04:07):
on the phone. So Natalie is a private investigator. She
works for a company called Lipstick Investigations. Great, and she's
been doing it for twelve years. And Natalia, welcome to
the show.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Hi. How are you girls?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Say, f how did you get into this line of work? Like,
how did you get into being a private investigator?
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Well, my friends do like to call me a stalker,
just a little bit ad time, the vigilant time. Yes,
always exposed the truth, you know. Look, so twelve years
ago it was just a tape course. It was a
certificate three in investigative services.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Yes, So unfortunately, look I don't know about tape courses anymore.
So you have to go through a current private company.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
So yeah, and so was there something that happened in
your life, like something that sort of set you off?
Were you trying to look at things in your own
life or a relationship or like, there has to be
something that made you want to solve these crimes.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Look, when I was younger, I grew up watching like
Bronic Khmas and James Bond and like Lara Cofts and
all that sort of thing. So I was like all
female empowerment, you know, and I always just have a
lot of girlfriends who, let's say, oh, look, I think
my boyfriend's cheating on me. I just have all these
hard feelings in there a way that we can find
out if it's cheating, and I'm like, you know what,
I'll just follow him and see what is up to
(05:23):
for the day. And it's just pretty much yeah. So
it was just a knack from the beginning of it,
you know. So I just thought, okay, just actually actually
quite both of this.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
So is that the most common kind of things that
you get called into where it's like women who think
their husbands are cheating on them? Or is there a
specific type of like I don't even know. Do we
call it a crime, a crime against emotions?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I don't know, but a moral crime, a moral crime?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Like what is the most frequent thing that you get
called to do?
Speaker 5 (05:48):
So we do do a lot of impidelity based works,
a lot of like cheating husband, cheating wife, boyfriend's girlfriends,
anything that you can think of, pretty much, And it's
quite unfortunate, but it's fortunate in a way because there's
always going to be a teeter to.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Say, do you think there's like one case.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I don't know if you're like how much your allowed
to tell us, but is there a case that you
tell us about that was just so crazy, like you
couldn't even believe it.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Yes, Early in my career, actually I had a job
where a male was out with his female companion, she
was actually his mistress, and he had told his wife
that he was coming home, and the wife had said
that to him that she was working late from work,
so she wasn't going to be in the house, but
she actually was in fact in the house and inside
(06:34):
the closet the years. So he actually went to the
Marrital home and took his mistress to the home, not
knowing that his wife was actually inside the bedroom closet.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Do that to yourself?
Speaker 3 (06:48):
What a dirt bag?
Speaker 5 (06:50):
Right?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
And then did she like string out at the right moment?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Cima.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
So the male and his mistress actually went into the
Maryor home and then maybe about five to seven minutes later,
the mistress comes out, and then maybe about five minutes
after that, about six cock car's name, the wife's just
running now trying to like attack the mistress. The husbands
trying to pull apart the wife and the mistresses. Oh
my god, it was intense, Like even just remembering it
(07:16):
right now, I lost for words for it.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
That was just could you imagine? I feel like, at
least if you've got the information, like, why would you
subject yourself to hiding in a cupboard to see it firsthand?
Speaker 4 (07:26):
I don't know, I understand why some people would, like
some people probably don't believe it, not unless they've seen it.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Now, I want to know, when you go out and
you and you follow someone or you're investigating someone, how
often is it that the conclusion is they've actually been cheating?
Like is it kind of a done deal that if
you get called onto the scene to kind of take
over this, that the likelihood that there's cheating there is
pretty high.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Well technically, like once you have that feeling that your
partner's cheating on you and you hire us, we're the
last step. So for you to have to hire us,
you know that it's happening, and we're just there to
provide the evidence at the end of the day. So
there has been obviously some cases in my twelve years
of working that it's just some times paranoia, like it's
not happening, that could be from a past trauma, from
(08:12):
a past relationship, and we're just there to be evidence
based at the end of the day. So I'd say
seventy percent yes if you think that you're partners cheating
on you and your part is cheady on you, and
thirty percent that it might just not be that and
it's just an insecurity.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Have you ever been sprung Like have you ever been
figured out by the person that you're tailing?
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Oh? Of course, Like, look, I'm not invisible. I mean
sometimes I'm invisible, but no, like, look, I've thought I
had bright red hair early in my career, so I
had it died, I was known as a spot. Yeah,
I have always known as the spy with the bright
red hair, and now I've got bright blue hair. So like, look,
I'm not that invisible. But you'd be surprised people don't
(08:53):
actually do pay attention to you, Like if you're they're cheating,
you're not looking around and going hey, who's that, Like
who's this? Who's that?
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Yeah, if I saw the same person like around my suburb,
you know, and I kept seeing them like someone with
red hair, my mind doesn't go to like, oh, they're
investigator following me, You're just like, well, I've been seeing
that person a lot, Like you don't put the two
together to be fair though, Like I don't think I
have a very good like face name recall and I reckon.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I could see the same person a couple of times
before even realizing that there was like you know that
there was a tiling here. Do you think being a
woman has helped you in this industry or do you
think it's been a hindrance at all?
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Oh no, it's actually been There's so many benefits from
being a female in his industry. You know, sometimes you
can get into nightclubs if you just flip the security
guards a little bit. If it's just like especially if
your subject is going into a nightcloud, they just go
up to security guards. You're like, I am a private investigator,
Like I think that that guy's cheating on his partner,
and the security guards they love it. They'll be like,
(09:49):
oh my god, really, like can we get on this?
Like do you want us to help you? Like it's right,
this go and everyone's the drama. Yeah, Like we'll help you,
like whatever you need to just tell us, like who
is it? Who is it? And I'm like, well, I
can't tell you who it is, but they just love it.
But being a female, it's Yeah, there's so many upsides
to it. Like I said, you get into more places
people don't really pay attention to you.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
So yeah, Talia, I find it's so fascinating. Like I said,
there's definitely been times in my past where I've contemplated.
I've never I've never hired one. If you never have God,
I don't think I'm ever going to have to use
my current husband, but current you always current husband if
he's not because I've had to hire someone like you.
No with my husband now, But God, you're doing God's work,
(10:33):
and Talia, you're doing God's work.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Sometimes like, look, it is a high job. People don't
think that it's hard, but it is mentally demanding, you know,
and sometimes you're like you're there at your client's worst points.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
You know.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
It's like they don't want to beg someone. Yeah, they
don't want to hire someone to see if their husband
or wife they're cheating on them, you know, And once
you find out that they are and you give them
the evidence, you kind of become like a little bit
of a counsel of them to know, but in saying that,
you can't really have a bias opinion either. So some
clients come to and they say, oh, even my husband,
a dictat, is cheating on me, and I'm like, oh, no,
(11:07):
I can't really say that.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Oh, thank you, Natalia. It was a pleasure to talk
to you.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
And hey, if anyone's listening Lipstick Investigations, if if you've
got a suspicion about a partner, you know who to call.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, you might get a boom and calls after this
thanks to Talia.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Thank you so much. Girl.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Now, if you were listening to the show yesterday, you
would know that I am I am the most skilled
at birds across the land. Actually, I didn't do as
well as I thought I would. And the backstory to
this is that I watched an episode of the new
game show The Floor, and I learned that I had
a hidden skill of knowing bird names. And I feel
deeply proud of this.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
I don't know why we did a bird quiz, I
like quick fire bird quiz.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I held up people.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I did so well.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I got one wrong one point five.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I just didn't know the bald part of the eagle,
but I knew it was an eagle and look, can
I just say, I will die on this hill. The
only bird I didn't get was a stalk, and that's
because it wasn't flying, it was just standing. No one
knows what a stalk looks like when it's standing. If
it is mid flight with a baby in its mouth.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
You would not, I feel like a real bird expert
would know.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Well, I'm mean I'm close. You were good, David Attenborough. Next,
I'm gonna be looking at you know, the fish and
the trawling and everything else that's happening in the worldhere
he's had.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
It was weird how much you knew, Like, it's a
weird skill to have.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Can I tell you it was weirder the fact that
you kind of were like weely upset and then angry
that you didn't have a test.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I upset or angry I had foma. I also want
a quiz.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
But you you're not proven yourself to be particularly good
at any one animal.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Oh wow, they're fighting words, Laura, I didn't know where
were there.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Well, we are, but britt has I mean you've spoken
about a little bit over the last two days. You
felt personally victimized.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah, I just wanted an animal quiz as well, So
the bird quid quizzed for me.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
And so the one animal that you seem to know
better than other animals but not particularly well, I don't think,
is dogs. So you said, where's my quiz? I want
an animal quiz? And what we have done is we've
gone out of our way to create, to replicate, to
see if you were, in fact an expert in dogs,
and if you can win some of my floor. Since
(13:09):
I clearly won the bird.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Game, I'm cracking my knuckles. I'm so excited about this.
How many dogs do we have?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Roll the game show music? We've got eight dogs. And
the way this is gonna work is it's like flash cards, guys.
I know it's more of an audio medium, but just
here here is that I'm in a hold of a
picture of the dog. You're gonna tell me what kind
of dog it is. And then for everyone you get right,
you get a point. It's pretty easy, get it.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
I run the quiz yesterday, got all right?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Well that's for anyone who's listening to the show. Okay,
and it's gonna start right now. What is this dog?
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Maltese or multipoo?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Absolutely not? Bish On Freezee Bishon freeze. Don't know how
to say this on freeze. Okay, that's wrong. Don't correct
me where you were wrong in the first place, because
I know it.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Now, keep going, okay, schnauz off.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Good yeah, no, just a normal one.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
But that's fine.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Ready and next quarterlie yep, good?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Oh this is the little one.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Will you don't know? Jack Rash, great, well done, well done, Brottweiler,
very good. This sounds an easy one.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Are you gonna get it?
Speaker 5 (14:17):
No?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
You you tea. You took too long, Jemmy Shepherd, Yeah,
all right, well we did it. You've only got fifty percent, right,
that's why we needed more to get.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Just say you hard dogs. Sorry, they were not mainstream dogs.
She got like a magpie. Sorry, I got a b
Shon freeze.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
It sounds like I've kind of breakfast in Paris, to
be fair, And I.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Didn't even know what a bishon freeze was, but I've
seen a few of these dogs before. Jon free Freeze.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
No, it's freeze, Bijeon freeze.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Well whatever, great. Sorry. Producer Grace is sitting there and
she's like, well, what's it called. No one cares about that.
I want to know. But I'm sure everyone's very confused
by what we're doing right now.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Why didn't you put my own dog in there?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Do you know what, Maybe we could start our own
game of the floor, but actually just have listeners call
up with their things that they're good at. We could
do this actually with listeners, because you know, there'd be
people who are much more skilled than what we have. Shock, Laura,
I know it's gonna be hard to find. We will
scour the nation, but we might find someone who knows
dogs better than bringing Hockley. Anyway, guys, that is it
from us today.
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