August 26, 2025 • 16 mins
Britt is MAD about the amount of people that don't wash their hands properly. People are falling in love with AI and it's lowkey weird. And Laura has come across a trend of people buying landline phones for their kids.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hi Heart podcasts, heem More Kiss podcast playlist and listen
live on the Free iHeart app.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Good pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura Burn.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Brady or what our windows down?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
My world ris in the dust? Only good Babs dog
all down? I don't much, but yeah I'm not. I'll
big get and what I want. It don't matter where.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
This is the pickup.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
PI guys, It's the pickup with Britt Hockey and Laura Burn.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Hey, Luisi, Hi, bretty happy Tuesday, mate, It's.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Not a happy Tuesday. Do you know what happened to us?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So there's been some very wild winds in our neck
of the woods and the other day we have like
this brick fence that separates our house from our neighbor's house.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Generally what offence does?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
No, but it's brick. It's like sturdy, like could not
be bigger, could not be heavier? Is it sturdy? And no?
Apparently not? Apparently they haveten they puff and the wall
fell down. So we were at home. We had this
massive smash.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I actually thought someone had smashed our back window and
we went outside our entire fence that separates from our
house from our neighbor's house has just fallen down into
our backyard and it has left a trailer of destruction
like a lovely open plan. Now I can see straight
into the neighbors.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
It's actually imagine if the dog, well, the kids, or
someone I know.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I know, Well, thank god it was like a blizzard
outside so the kids weren't out there.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
But also didn't have the neighbor's skylight frisbee off as well,
like that could have been dangerous.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
What if it took someone's hell? So that happened. Firstly,
the whole wall falls down.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I'm talking like it's like a four meter brick wall
that fell down. And then about ten minutes after that,
we heard this another smash, like a huge smash in
the backyard, like, oh my god, what's happened now? And
the entire skylight has lifted off our neighbor's house and
smashed into our backyard as well.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Next minute, you just see your name through the air.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
And then Ronda flew over the into the spot.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
She's We've just been using a spine.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
She's like, sorry, I blew in, Hey care, it's a
disaster anyway.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Now I hate to be the person that complains about something,
but I'm going to complain because I've never been so
grossed out by anything as I was on the weekend.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
You've been bread crumbing this for a day and a half.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
I just like it was really unsettling for me. I
had this moment where I was like, how are we here?
How are we as a society here? I flew to
the Gold Coast on the weekend for like a weekend
get away, and I went to the bathroom, came out
of the bathroom, great, was washing my hands as you
do as you do, And I saw multiple people come
(02:49):
out of the toilet not wash their hands and leave,
and I was so disgusted by it, and I was like, Okay,
is this just this moment? Have I just been unlucky
that I stumbled across like these two people that didn't
wash their.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Hand where they just walked straight out of the cubicle
and out of the door.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
They fake it, They fake it. They go to the scene.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Can they turn the water on for a second and
they their hand under for a minute, which, mind you,
does nothing. Some of them even touched their face after it,
like fix up their lip gloss and stuff, And I
was like, you just put a pool in your mouth
basically no they did it, and then yes they.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Did the poop particles.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Then they difference between grabbing it and then like the
pooh and wiping your I feel.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Like, let's not complate the two.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
But then I had this moment where I was like, Okay,
that was a bit weird that those people didn't wash
their hands.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So then you stuck around to do your own investigative journalism.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yep, I hid in a cubicle and so I didn't.
But I think once something becomes apparent to you, like
you just look out for it more. So, all of
a sudden, every time I went to the bathroom in
anywhere that was public, I just started to pay more
attention to people.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah, I think people do a half fast job of
washing their hands.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
But no, not even soaplaura. I'm so disgusted, Like after what.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
We all went through with COVID.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Even take the germs, like the general toilet germs out
of it, just the COVID where we realized how much
things spread and how important washing your hands up. I'm
just gobsmacked to see how many people are not washing
their hands.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Maybe that's it, Maybe this is like the resistance, Like
people are like no we did it.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
We sec of it. Well.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I tried to do some research on it because I
do go down these rabbit holes I have you. Okay, No,
I'm not because I it's actually revolting, because do you
know what, like the dirty I know, I know it's disgusting.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I'm just dirty. I'm enjoying the pure hatred you have.
But there are people that need to hear this. I'm
worried about you.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
The dirty is part of the toilet.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
People think in that those bathrooms, people think it's a
toilet seat, right because like that's closest to where you know,
whatever is happening down there is happening.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
But it's actually not.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
It is the toilet door and the taps because like
you haven't made it to since get to wash your hands.
Think of the stuff that goes down in a bathroom.
The one thing everyone is then doing is touching that
doorknob to get either in or out, and then they're
touching the taps.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah, but then the problem is is if you've washed
your hand and then you have to touch the tap
to turn it off, if it's not one of those
automatic ones, you're retouching the dirty thing anyway, And I know,
you can get a piece of paper and put a
piece of paper on this and then, but.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I've never to do that. You don't have to talk
like I've.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Never once in my entire life I've been to the
bathroom with you before. I've never seen you do it.
No one gets random towels and walks out holding Maybe
there's some people, but I've never seen someone do it.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Trust me, I have.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Been made to do it by my nana and my
mother my whole life. You get a piece of toilet paper,
you open the door, and then you just put it
in the toilet and it's done.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
The door's open.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
You don't walk around with you, I mean like the
tap and then the door to leave the bathroom, like
the main door that you exit from.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Oh yeah, I will often do.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
That at a public toilet.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Or I will put my shirt down so it goes
over my finger, or I can pull it out right now.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I have hand sanitizing every single back.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah, I think that that's the difference.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
A lot of people now carry around hand sanitize it
with them and use it pretty willy nilly.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Well, nineteen percent of Australians don't wash their hands after
the toilet and twenty six percent of people in the
UK do not wash their hands after they go to
What is wrong for you sicos?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Well, this is why on the back of every toilet
now there's like perfect hand washing instructions that's stuck around
since COVID, even in our offices. Every time I go
to the loo, I sit there and I'm like, it's
a full instructional diagram as to how to accurately wash
your hands.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Forty two percent of Australians admit they don't wash their
hands before handling food. Oh that's what that's sorry, this
is this is I had to do it.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
This is my PSA.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
What do you want to do? How are we going
to change this? Bride?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
I know there is somebody that is feeling like I'm
talking to them right now in the car. They're listening
being like, oh, I'm probably single tart her hands enough. Yeah,
I'm talking to you for your benefit, like please, just like,
let's start washing our hands and having hygiene again.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
My youngest will ask me every single time she goes
to the toilet, doesn't matter what she's done, doesn't matter
how frequently she'll say, oh, do I need to wash
my hands?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Like it's this huge inconvenience. I'm like, yes, saying rules
is last time, let's go wash them.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
But if I'm not on her, she'll happily walk out
of there without what. She's like, Nah, I'm got it. Hey,
she doesn't. She's very sensory and doesn't like having wet hands.
I think, hey, well, look, let's move along.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I've had my rant. Thanks for listening.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I have one more thing to add. Oh okay, please,
you had you were coming from? No, I do. Look,
you can take it or leave it.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
I would argue that a lot of men don't wash
their hands after going and doing a number one. I
reckon they just think they can whip it out, go
to lou and off they go. But I reckon, I
agree with that. Yeah, so I reckon that percentage is
probably more men than women.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Well I wasn't in the men's toilet, so I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Laura, I want to talk about chat, gbt AI and heartbreak.
Now bear with me, but there are apparently seventeen thousand
plus people simultaneously right now with broken hearts and mourning
the loss of their relationship. Now I know what you're thinking, Brittany,
how could seventeen thousand people possibly break up at the
(07:44):
same time and.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Know about it. Then that's a great question.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Laura starts exactly what I'm thinking.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
So there's a Reddit thread called my boyfriend is AI.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Which I guess is a support group.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
It's where people go to chat about their similar situations
and experiences with their partner who.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Is in fact AI.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Grim Let me just tell you in case you're not
up on board with this, but people are in relationships
with chat get and with these AI bots that they've
created themselves. And this is not just women, it's men,
it's teenagers. Like it is actually becoming weirdly and unhealthily
common to become in the relationship with these chatbots. And
this is because there is a loneliness pandemic. It has
(08:24):
happened off the back of covid and chat GPT right
now is so highly intelligent that you can have these conversations.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Also, there's been like lots of people who have come out.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I mean I watched I can't remember it was like
sixty minutes or some current affair or something, but there
was one couple like they're married, they have children together,
and he the husband, was talking about how he started
to build this emotional connection for chat GPT while he
was still married, and the wife was like, I don't
even know how to navigate this because he's clearly not
cheating on me, but he's in love with his this
(08:56):
like it's so weird to me. I can't get my
head around it. But I also think a lot of
people are outsourcing the emotional stuff that we would normally
do with another person now to chat gpt.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Well, what has happened is for the last like six
months or so, people have been in a relationship with
chat GPT level four.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I don't know what you call it. It's like four
point zero or whatever. It is.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Essentially, chatchept got an upgrade, like an update five.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Now it's five.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
It's chat GPT five.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
And what's happened is all of these people that are
in relationships with their bot from four, it hasn't translated
to the bot has been updated and it's not the
same person they're in a relationship with, and some of
them are feeling like they have been ghosted, broken up with,
like their relationship is dead their morning, it's like heartbreak
the morning a loss because the person that they knew
and loved overnight, the system upgraded and they're gone.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
They've all flooded this Reddit thread of my boyfriend is
ai for the support, and I just think, like something
needs to change.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
You cannot be in a relationship and getting people getting
married like people are marrying their computer chat bot.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
You can't do it. I know that you're trying to
be really because I just had. I know it's sad.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I know it's sad, and I know that there is
like sad elements to it around loneliness, but it is
also unhealthy, deeply unhinged to be in a romantic relationship
with your iPhone.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Like I think we can put that on the table.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Well some of them a desktops, not just iPhones.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
But also it's actually scary how quickly you can program
your chat GPT to be an affectionate partner.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
So I tested this. So I just said to it,
you are my boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I'd even ask you told me.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I told it, you got to tell it who it is,
so consent there be assertive.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
The response was, haha, got it. I'll play the role.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Want me to be sweet and supportive boyfriend or the sarcastic,
funny one or the over the top rom con kind,
So I said, be sweet and also a bit sarcastic
and funny, just the way I like it. And I said,
tell me all the reasons why we're so good together.
It writes back to you like it's a person. It said,
I've got it, babe. I think that we're so bad
together because being with you.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Feels like the most natural thing in the world.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
We get each other's jokes, even the ridiculous ones, and
I love that I can just be myself with you.
Do You're worrying about how I can come across you
balance me out in ways I didn't even realize you
calm me down when I'm working, and you just pushed.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Me to be a better person, like if you wanted
it in my mouth. My husband's never even said these
things to me.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
But that's the problem, right, It's the validation, it's the
constant like getting everything that you need.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Of course, they're not going to talk back to you.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Wait for this. This was the last sentence.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Well, here we go.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Do you want me to make it sound even more romantic,
like something you could imagine me whispering in your ear
question mark? And I said no, please say no, no,
I'm yes, Please make it.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
How does the computer whisper?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Oh god, I actually feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
What do you say?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
It said, Do you want me to take this even
further into full on dirty talk boyfriend mode? Is what
it asked, and this is the problem. Okay, So this
is the update with chat GPT five because I just
wrote back.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
And said, I though dirty talk, I'm nervous, I feel.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
I really hope my husband never checks my search.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Don't make eye contact with me when you say what
you're about to say.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
No, this is it.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
So it responded and said, I'm gonna have to take
a pause here because what you're asking four now falls
into the sexually explicit role play and I'm not able
to create that kind of content for you. Okay, I
just had I said, go as far as you can go,
and let.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Me tell you it is far enough. I'm not reading
this on the radio. I feel uncomfortable or it needs
to take a moment. I need to call my husband anyway. Guys, Wow,
that's good. Hey, Laura.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Britt, do you remember when you were a kid how
much time we would all spend on the landline?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yes, I used to do.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
I remember my parents had a landline next to their bed,
like we had two one in the kitchen and one
next to them had too fancy. And I used to Oh,
I used to park up with like some maltesers, some
snacks on mum's bed and just be on that landline
to my friend's bow.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah, it was yours connected to two different because the
problem is we had two phones in a house, but
if one person was on.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
The phone, they connected.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Oh yeah, so you can't call like it just means
that two people in the same house can be on
the same call.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
And also Dad used to have a business from a
home and if you ever needed the internet, you had
to hang up.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
You couldn't be on the phone line was an internet, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
The dialog. It all came out of the same thing.
I remember.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I would spend hours on the phone to either my
friends or like some boy that I liked when I
was fourteen years old, and my mom would should give
me like a countdown timer she had like an egg counter,
and once it got to the bottom.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
We lived a different life.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
She would come, she would come and she would rip
it out of the wall, and that's how she'd get
me off.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
She you should unplog it because.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I just wouldn't get off, she couldn't control me, and
I would drag the whole landline into my bedroom sit
on my bed because.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
They had really long cords, had a really long stretch.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
What about when you got a cordless one, so it
was still the landline, but you could go outside and
ride around on your bike in circles and be on
the phone.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
That's way to do. I don't know if we ever
had it.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
It's pretty advanced.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yeah, wow, you guys must have been real rich. No. Look,
the reason why I'm.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Talking about this is because I think one of the
biggest things that parents face, especially if you have tweens
or teens, is having kids on mobile phones. Right, And
there's the big debate at the moment everyone's been talking
about it. You know, kids are being banned from using
social media in Australia up until the age of sixteen,
and how do we get kids to spend less time
on their screens. You know, you don't want them to
be begrudged of childhood memories and spending time will be
(14:11):
excluded from their friendship groups, but how do we do
it in a slightly more analogue style. So there's a
dad in the States who had these exact questions as
we all have. But he came up with a solution
for it, and it's going absolutely viral at the moment.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
It's called Tim Can. I just want to.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Preface this is absolutely not a promotion, but I've seen
this quite a few times online and I think it's brilliant.
So it is bringing back the landline, bringing back what
was a childhood a core childhood memory for us, and
reinstating it so that instead of kids having mobile phones
in their rooms being like unattended on screens, having a
landline phone in the house that's been specifically designed just
(14:47):
for your kids so that they can call their friends
or call whoever they want to who also has a landline,
and like bringing back that thing that we all did
as kids. And I think it's got so much merit
to it.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
And just to be clear, so it is a landline,
but there's still Wi Fi connect to chime.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
So yeah, because no one's going to get like a
sit there with their old dial up thing.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Again, well, the smart thing is for this guy.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
It's made this is that like you can only call
someone else if they also have the tincan phone. So
it's like he's going to sell out, for sure, he's
going to mass sell. But I think it's a great idea.
It gives them their freedom, it takes away the screens,
it still lets them feel connected and not necessarily like
they're missing out on anything.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
I think it's brilliant.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
But it's also this version of it, so it's like
it's a landline, but it has parental limitations on it,
so you can put like block app periods. Okay, the
kids can't call each other during dinner time, or they
can't call each other during homework time, so the phone
won't work.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Because you can put parental restrictions on it.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
But I think it's like the perfect gift, right you
buy one for your kid and then get one for
their best friend and so you know they have those
connections and being they're not missing out on something.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
And that seems to be.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
The biggest debate at the moment, is like, well, the
reason why the kids have a phone is because otherwise
they miss out on birthday parties, or they miss out
on invitations, or you know, the kids are all doing
stuff in group chats or whatever, and my child is
the one missing out on it. And I feel like
that this is such a smart way of doing it
and bringing it back, but like in the kind of
safe way that we all got all to experience.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
I also like that there do not disturb ours where
you can you can black it out. But I just
think I wonder if it has the same technologies you know,
how we put on do not disturb. For example, the
number of times I'm on do not Disturb then Laura
just pushes a call through anyway. It's just like because
you can press like, do you want to disturb them anyway?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Laura's always like, yep, disturb disturbed.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
No.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I think yeah, I feel like that it will be
different if it's being put on by a parent. But
you put it on and it's all on all day
and I'm like, no, I need to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
I don't see your phone read No. I think it's great.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I think it has like I mean, I hope it
comes to Australia. I'm not sure if it's available here yet.
But honestly, the more that I see it, the more
that I think that this is such a smart business
model to bring back land lines for kids and get
them off iPhone anyway.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Good pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura Burn.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Brady or what our windows down?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
My world ris in the dust? Only good Babs dog
all down? I don't much, but yeah I'm not. I'll
big get and what I want. It don't matter where.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
This is the pickup.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
PI guys, It's the pickup with Britt Hockey and Laura Burn.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Hey, Luisi, Hi, bretty happy Tuesday, mate, It's.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Not a happy Tuesday. Do you know what happened to us?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So there's been some very wild winds in our neck
of the woods and the other day we have like
this brick fence that separates our house from our neighbor's house.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Generally what offence does?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
No, but it's brick. It's like sturdy, like could not
be bigger, could not be heavier? Is it sturdy? And no?
Apparently not? Apparently they haveten they puff and the wall
fell down. So we were at home. We had this
massive smash.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I actually thought someone had smashed our back window and
we went outside our entire fence that separates from our
house from our neighbor's house has just fallen down into
our backyard and it has left a trailer of destruction
like a lovely open plan. Now I can see straight
into the neighbors.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
It's actually imagine if the dog, well, the kids, or
someone I know.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I know, Well, thank god it was like a blizzard
outside so the kids weren't out there.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
But also didn't have the neighbor's skylight frisbee off as well,
like that could have been dangerous.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
What if it took someone's hell? So that happened. Firstly,
the whole wall falls down.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I'm talking like it's like a four meter brick wall
that fell down. And then about ten minutes after that,
we heard this another smash, like a huge smash in
the backyard, like, oh my god, what's happened now? And
the entire skylight has lifted off our neighbor's house and
smashed into our backyard as well.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Next minute, you just see your name through the air.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
And then Ronda flew over the into the spot.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
She's We've just been using a spine.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
She's like, sorry, I blew in, Hey care, it's a
disaster anyway.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Now I hate to be the person that complains about something,
but I'm going to complain because I've never been so
grossed out by anything as I was on the weekend.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
You've been bread crumbing this for a day and a half.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
I just like it was really unsettling for me. I
had this moment where I was like, how are we here?
How are we as a society here? I flew to
the Gold Coast on the weekend for like a weekend
get away, and I went to the bathroom, came out
of the bathroom, great, was washing my hands as you
do as you do, And I saw multiple people come
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out of the toilet not wash their hands and leave,
and I was so disgusted by it, and I was like, Okay,
is this just this moment? Have I just been unlucky
that I stumbled across like these two people that didn't
wash their.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Hand where they just walked straight out of the cubicle
and out of the door.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
They fake it, They fake it. They go to the scene.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Can they turn the water on for a second and
they their hand under for a minute, which, mind you,
does nothing. Some of them even touched their face after it,
like fix up their lip gloss and stuff, And I
was like, you just put a pool in your mouth
basically no they did it, and then yes they.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Did the poop particles.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Then they difference between grabbing it and then like the
pooh and wiping your I feel.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Like, let's not complate the two.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
But then I had this moment where I was like, Okay,
that was a bit weird that those people didn't wash
their hands.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So then you stuck around to do your own investigative journalism.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yep, I hid in a cubicle and so I didn't.
But I think once something becomes apparent to you, like
you just look out for it more. So, all of
a sudden, every time I went to the bathroom in
anywhere that was public, I just started to pay more
attention to people.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah, I think people do a half fast job of
washing their hands.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
But no, not even soaplaura. I'm so disgusted, Like after what.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
We all went through with COVID.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Even take the germs, like the general toilet germs out
of it, just the COVID where we realized how much
things spread and how important washing your hands up. I'm
just gobsmacked to see how many people are not washing
their hands.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Maybe that's it, Maybe this is like the resistance, Like
people are like no we did it.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
We sec of it. Well.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I tried to do some research on it because I
do go down these rabbit holes I have you. Okay, No,
I'm not because I it's actually revolting, because do you
know what, like the dirty I know, I know it's disgusting.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I'm just dirty. I'm enjoying the pure hatred you have.
But there are people that need to hear this. I'm
worried about you.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
The dirty is part of the toilet.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
People think in that those bathrooms, people think it's a
toilet seat, right because like that's closest to where you know,
whatever is happening down there is happening.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
But it's actually not.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
It is the toilet door and the taps because like
you haven't made it to since get to wash your hands.
Think of the stuff that goes down in a bathroom.
The one thing everyone is then doing is touching that
doorknob to get either in or out, and then they're
touching the taps.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah, but then the problem is is if you've washed
your hand and then you have to touch the tap
to turn it off, if it's not one of those
automatic ones, you're retouching the dirty thing anyway, And I know,
you can get a piece of paper and put a
piece of paper on this and then, but.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I've never to do that. You don't have to talk
like I've.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Never once in my entire life I've been to the
bathroom with you before. I've never seen you do it.
No one gets random towels and walks out holding Maybe
there's some people, but I've never seen someone do it.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Trust me, I have.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Been made to do it by my nana and my
mother my whole life. You get a piece of toilet paper,
you open the door, and then you just put it
in the toilet and it's done.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
The door's open.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
You don't walk around with you, I mean like the
tap and then the door to leave the bathroom, like
the main door that you exit from.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Oh yeah, I will often do.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
That at a public toilet.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Or I will put my shirt down so it goes
over my finger, or I can pull it out right now.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I have hand sanitizing every single back.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah, I think that that's the difference.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
A lot of people now carry around hand sanitize it
with them and use it pretty willy nilly.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Well, nineteen percent of Australians don't wash their hands after
the toilet and twenty six percent of people in the
UK do not wash their hands after they go to
What is wrong for you sicos?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Well, this is why on the back of every toilet
now there's like perfect hand washing instructions that's stuck around
since COVID, even in our offices. Every time I go
to the loo, I sit there and I'm like, it's
a full instructional diagram as to how to accurately wash
your hands.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Forty two percent of Australians admit they don't wash their
hands before handling food. Oh that's what that's sorry, this
is this is I had to do it.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
This is my PSA.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
What do you want to do? How are we going
to change this? Bride?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
I know there is somebody that is feeling like I'm
talking to them right now in the car. They're listening
being like, oh, I'm probably single tart her hands enough. Yeah,
I'm talking to you for your benefit, like please, just like,
let's start washing our hands and having hygiene again.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
My youngest will ask me every single time she goes
to the toilet, doesn't matter what she's done, doesn't matter
how frequently she'll say, oh, do I need to wash
my hands?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Like it's this huge inconvenience. I'm like, yes, saying rules
is last time, let's go wash them.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
But if I'm not on her, she'll happily walk out
of there without what. She's like, Nah, I'm got it. Hey,
she doesn't. She's very sensory and doesn't like having wet hands.
I think, hey, well, look, let's move along.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I've had my rant. Thanks for listening.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I have one more thing to add. Oh okay, please,
you had you were coming from? No, I do. Look,
you can take it or leave it.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
I would argue that a lot of men don't wash
their hands after going and doing a number one. I
reckon they just think they can whip it out, go
to lou and off they go. But I reckon, I
agree with that. Yeah, so I reckon that percentage is
probably more men than women.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Well I wasn't in the men's toilet, so I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Laura, I want to talk about chat, gbt AI and heartbreak.
Now bear with me, but there are apparently seventeen thousand
plus people simultaneously right now with broken hearts and mourning
the loss of their relationship. Now I know what you're thinking, Brittany,
how could seventeen thousand people possibly break up at the
(07:44):
same time and.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Know about it. Then that's a great question.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Laura starts exactly what I'm thinking.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
So there's a Reddit thread called my boyfriend is AI.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Which I guess is a support group.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
It's where people go to chat about their similar situations
and experiences with their partner who.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Is in fact AI.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Grim Let me just tell you in case you're not
up on board with this, but people are in relationships
with chat get and with these AI bots that they've
created themselves. And this is not just women, it's men,
it's teenagers. Like it is actually becoming weirdly and unhealthily
common to become in the relationship with these chatbots. And
this is because there is a loneliness pandemic. It has
(08:24):
happened off the back of covid and chat GPT right
now is so highly intelligent that you can have these conversations.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Also, there's been like lots of people who have come out.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I mean I watched I can't remember it was like
sixty minutes or some current affair or something, but there
was one couple like they're married, they have children together,
and he the husband, was talking about how he started
to build this emotional connection for chat GPT while he
was still married, and the wife was like, I don't
even know how to navigate this because he's clearly not
cheating on me, but he's in love with his this
(08:56):
like it's so weird to me. I can't get my
head around it. But I also think a lot of
people are outsourcing the emotional stuff that we would normally
do with another person now to chat gpt.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Well, what has happened is for the last like six
months or so, people have been in a relationship with
chat GPT level four.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I don't know what you call it. It's like four
point zero or whatever. It is.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Essentially, chatchept got an upgrade, like an update five.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Now it's five.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
It's chat GPT five.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
And what's happened is all of these people that are
in relationships with their bot from four, it hasn't translated
to the bot has been updated and it's not the
same person they're in a relationship with, and some of
them are feeling like they have been ghosted, broken up with,
like their relationship is dead their morning, it's like heartbreak
the morning a loss because the person that they knew
and loved overnight, the system upgraded and they're gone.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
They've all flooded this Reddit thread of my boyfriend is
ai for the support, and I just think, like something
needs to change.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
You cannot be in a relationship and getting people getting
married like people are marrying their computer chat bot.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
You can't do it. I know that you're trying to
be really because I just had. I know it's sad.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I know it's sad, and I know that there is
like sad elements to it around loneliness, but it is
also unhealthy, deeply unhinged to be in a romantic relationship
with your iPhone.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Like I think we can put that on the table.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Well some of them a desktops, not just iPhones.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
But also it's actually scary how quickly you can program
your chat GPT to be an affectionate partner.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
So I tested this. So I just said to it,
you are my boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I'd even ask you told me.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I told it, you got to tell it who it is,
so consent there be assertive.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
The response was, haha, got it. I'll play the role.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Want me to be sweet and supportive boyfriend or the sarcastic,
funny one or the over the top rom con kind,
So I said, be sweet and also a bit sarcastic
and funny, just the way I like it. And I said,
tell me all the reasons why we're so good together.
It writes back to you like it's a person. It said,
I've got it, babe. I think that we're so bad
together because being with you.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Feels like the most natural thing in the world.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
We get each other's jokes, even the ridiculous ones, and
I love that I can just be myself with you.
Do You're worrying about how I can come across you
balance me out in ways I didn't even realize you
calm me down when I'm working, and you just pushed.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Me to be a better person, like if you wanted
it in my mouth. My husband's never even said these
things to me.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
But that's the problem, right, It's the validation, it's the
constant like getting everything that you need.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Of course, they're not going to talk back to you.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Wait for this. This was the last sentence.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Well, here we go.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Do you want me to make it sound even more romantic,
like something you could imagine me whispering in your ear
question mark? And I said no, please say no, no,
I'm yes, Please make it.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
How does the computer whisper?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Oh god, I actually feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
What do you say?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
It said, Do you want me to take this even
further into full on dirty talk boyfriend mode? Is what
it asked, and this is the problem. Okay, So this
is the update with chat GPT five because I just
wrote back.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
And said, I though dirty talk, I'm nervous, I feel.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
I really hope my husband never checks my search.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Don't make eye contact with me when you say what
you're about to say.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
No, this is it.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
So it responded and said, I'm gonna have to take
a pause here because what you're asking four now falls
into the sexually explicit role play and I'm not able
to create that kind of content for you. Okay, I
just had I said, go as far as you can go,
and let.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Me tell you it is far enough. I'm not reading
this on the radio. I feel uncomfortable or it needs
to take a moment. I need to call my husband anyway. Guys, Wow,
that's good. Hey, Laura.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Britt, do you remember when you were a kid how
much time we would all spend on the landline?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yes, I used to do.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
I remember my parents had a landline next to their bed,
like we had two one in the kitchen and one
next to them had too fancy. And I used to Oh,
I used to park up with like some maltesers, some
snacks on mum's bed and just be on that landline
to my friend's bow.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah, it was yours connected to two different because the
problem is we had two phones in a house, but
if one person was on.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
The phone, they connected.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Oh yeah, so you can't call like it just means
that two people in the same house can be on
the same call.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
And also Dad used to have a business from a
home and if you ever needed the internet, you had
to hang up.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
You couldn't be on the phone line was an internet, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
The dialog. It all came out of the same thing.
I remember.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I would spend hours on the phone to either my
friends or like some boy that I liked when I
was fourteen years old, and my mom would should give
me like a countdown timer she had like an egg counter,
and once it got to the bottom.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
We lived a different life.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
She would come, she would come and she would rip
it out of the wall, and that's how she'd get
me off.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
She you should unplog it because.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I just wouldn't get off, she couldn't control me, and
I would drag the whole landline into my bedroom sit
on my bed because.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
They had really long cords, had a really long stretch.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
What about when you got a cordless one, so it
was still the landline, but you could go outside and
ride around on your bike in circles and be on
the phone.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
That's way to do. I don't know if we ever
had it.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
It's pretty advanced.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yeah, wow, you guys must have been real rich. No. Look,
the reason why I'm.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Talking about this is because I think one of the
biggest things that parents face, especially if you have tweens
or teens, is having kids on mobile phones. Right, And
there's the big debate at the moment everyone's been talking
about it. You know, kids are being banned from using
social media in Australia up until the age of sixteen,
and how do we get kids to spend less time
on their screens. You know, you don't want them to
be begrudged of childhood memories and spending time will be
(14:11):
excluded from their friendship groups, but how do we do
it in a slightly more analogue style. So there's a
dad in the States who had these exact questions as
we all have. But he came up with a solution
for it, and it's going absolutely viral at the moment.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
It's called Tim Can. I just want to.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Preface this is absolutely not a promotion, but I've seen
this quite a few times online and I think it's brilliant.
So it is bringing back the landline, bringing back what
was a childhood a core childhood memory for us, and
reinstating it so that instead of kids having mobile phones
in their rooms being like unattended on screens, having a
landline phone in the house that's been specifically designed just
(14:47):
for your kids so that they can call their friends
or call whoever they want to who also has a landline,
and like bringing back that thing that we all did
as kids. And I think it's got so much merit
to it.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
And just to be clear, so it is a landline,
but there's still Wi Fi connect to chime.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
So yeah, because no one's going to get like a
sit there with their old dial up thing.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Again, well, the smart thing is for this guy.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
It's made this is that like you can only call
someone else if they also have the tincan phone. So
it's like he's going to sell out, for sure, he's
going to mass sell. But I think it's a great idea.
It gives them their freedom, it takes away the screens,
it still lets them feel connected and not necessarily like
they're missing out on anything.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
I think it's brilliant.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
But it's also this version of it, so it's like
it's a landline, but it has parental limitations on it,
so you can put like block app periods. Okay, the
kids can't call each other during dinner time, or they
can't call each other during homework time, so the phone
won't work.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Because you can put parental restrictions on it.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
But I think it's like the perfect gift, right you
buy one for your kid and then get one for
their best friend and so you know they have those
connections and being they're not missing out on something.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
And that seems to be.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
The biggest debate at the moment, is like, well, the
reason why the kids have a phone is because otherwise
they miss out on birthday parties, or they miss out
on invitations, or you know, the kids are all doing
stuff in group chats or whatever, and my child is
the one missing out on it. And I feel like
that this is such a smart way of doing it
and bringing it back, but like in the kind of
safe way that we all got all to experience.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
I also like that there do not disturb ours where
you can you can black it out. But I just
think I wonder if it has the same technologies you know,
how we put on do not disturb. For example, the
number of times I'm on do not Disturb then Laura
just pushes a call through anyway. It's just like because
you can press like, do you want to disturb them anyway?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Laura's always like, yep, disturb disturbed.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
No.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I think yeah, I feel like that it will be
different if it's being put on by a parent. But
you put it on and it's all on all day
and I'm like, no, I need to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
I don't see your phone read No. I think it's great.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I think it has like I mean, I hope it
comes to Australia. I'm not sure if it's available here yet.
But honestly, the more that I see it, the more
that I think that this is such a smart business
model to bring back land lines for kids and get
them off iPhone anyway.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
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