April 8, 2025 • 16 mins
Laura has been rage-baiting people on the internet and it might have gone too far. Britt has thoughts on a new law affecting babies in Italy and what did you discover in the DNA test?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
A good pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura Burn Brady
or work our windows my world rison the dust. Only
good babs are all down. I don't much, but yeah,
I know I'll big get and what I want. It
don't matter where. This is the pickup, Hi, guys, it's
(00:23):
a pick up with Britt Hockley and Laura Burn.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
And you've got a very important appointment tonight. Laura, and
you were just telling me about.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I'm leaving the show today to go and get my girls,
to go and do a mad dash to Kmart to
go and get everything that we need to make Easter
hats for the Easter hat parade.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
What are you going? You're going like a wide brim
a cap. What's the base?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
The problem with Easter hat parades is that you really
have to work with whatever you can find. So it's
a bit of a scavenger hunt. Because you hear me out,
I don't think that's true. I think you can do more.
Shops need to like sell things that are specific for
making the Easter hats. You gotta go hunting. You gotta find,
like we things to hot glue gun on it, or
it's a paper mache or crepe paper, like it's a
whole thing. I just loved Pitchy doing it. I do
(01:05):
it every year. What are you talking about last year?
I went and bought like fake flowers, and so she
had like ornaments of rabbits stuck on her hat and
then fake flowers around the ornaments. It was a masterpiece.
She held onto that one. It's still in the cupboard.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
You know. One of the only things I've ever won
in life. Couldn't even win The Bachelor. The only thing
I ever won was the easter hat parade when I
was about five years old.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I nailed it. We had to do a well do
you still do it?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Is?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Do I do an actual parade? The parade around?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Oh, we were on the catwalk. I'd gone to modeling classes.
I did model classes.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I knew how to walk, and I strutted that hat
and I had you know what won me?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Plus my mum.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
It was a full easter hat parade, like beautiful hat,
but it was a wide brim and she put like,
we're in the outback where you put like cork to
get the flies away, And so I had like an
outback cork swinging around my head.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Sorry, was it cork? Or was it tiny little easter eggs,
because that would have been.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Well, maybe she did the East trokes. I can't remember,
but it was to keep the flies away.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I thought I won. I mean that gives me some
that gives me some inspo. Maybe I can do that,
but with Easter eggs.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah, she'll probably win if you do that.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I do have to get her into modeling school. That's
probably the ones.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I'll come around this afternoon. I'll show her some things.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Now. Look, I have been unintentionally, slightly intentionally. It started
off intentional. It was intentional, but now it's unintentional rage
baiting people on the internet. Now, if you don't know
what rage baiting is, it's basically when you create content
on Instagram with the intention of making people angry.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I feel like it's pretty self explanatory, Like you're baiting
the rage.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I'm baiting the rage. Yeah. My husband and I, Matt,
we have been doing a renovation and we've been documenting
the process over the last couple of months. It's been
nine months. And let me tell you, we have put
some blood, sweat and tears into this renovation and dollars
and some cash. It is eclectic, it is weird. I
mean you described as a Willy Wonker house, but we
(02:52):
wanted to have a house that was like colorful and
fun that when you walked into it, you felt like
you're on a holiday.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
It is a fun house. You got to put those
sunglasses onto walking.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Over the last couple of months, we've realized that people
either love it or they hate it. And in the
last week we've started to do room reveals because we
were our own little mini block here. The first one
was the bathroom, the second one was the kitchen. And
I just want to say I was not prepared for
how angry renovation content makes people.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
You baited too hard.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I didn't mean to age. The problem is that when
past rage baiting and now it's like people are just
being me and I'm like, this is still my house, guys.
So this is what I mean by it's making people enraged. Firstly,
Daily Mail has written an article about how enraged people
are if you want to go and look for it.
But also it things like this, oh, actually funny. Her
handle is plain Jane, so maybe it's why she doesn't
(03:41):
like it, but she wrote love that for you. You
were being stubborn with your style. I just don't understand
how it works though it doesn't work with the natural simplicity.
It's ugly.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Wow, imagine writing someone.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Here's another review. Oh my god, that marble is hideous.
Here's another review from Stacy Yuck. The cupboard doesn't match
anything and the tiles are just horrible.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Hang on in the kitchen or we're stillroom.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
We're in the bathroom now. Marble fixtures and layout is
the only saving grace. This person wrote, well, you would
be ripped to pieces by SHANEA blaze. Let's put it
that way. It's a no from me too.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Okay, well it's not the block. Shane is not coming
to stay.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Someone wrote you couldn't pay me to stay here, and
I was like, you'll never get to stay here.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
It's okay, Sharon, you're not invited.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
And then the last one was and this was about
the kitchen reveal, So that was the second room that
we were like really excited to share with everyone. And
someone wrote better than your crap.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Bathroom at these private dms written publicly.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Look, I'll be honest, I.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Guess you do put it out there. You open yourself
up when you say what do you think? Yeah, which
you did do so you have to expect people to
say that they don't like.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I want people to know that, like, I'm okay with
it because, like we there's been a lot of kind feedback.
There's been a lot of people who love it. There's
been a lot of people who are into the maxim minimalist,
like eclectic style of a crazy house that's got personality,
and then there are people who are not, And I
appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Producer Grace, why don't we get some of the block
judges on, why don't we get one of them on,
let's show them some of the house. Let's get and
see what they think, what Shana thinks, Let's see what
SHANEA thinks.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Darren Palmer, Darren Palmer is going to be like, it's
a monstrosity, let's do it. Yeah, I'm down. My only
worry is someone saying things like, oh my god, it's
getting worse. And I was like, guys, we've shown the
best two rooms. You started from the top, like it
really is. It really does get worse.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
There's a really interesting discussion going down all the way
over in Italy.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Now.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
The reason that I want to talk about this is
because it's something that I have been thinking about recently
getting married. Whose name I'm going to take my fiancees
or not? What are we going to name our kids?
Whose name are going to give them?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
But over in.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Italy there's a politician named Dario Francescini who is proposing
a new bill that any children born will automatically take
the mother's surname instead of the father's surname. Now, we
know in Australia that the default usually is the father's name,
but you can choose, so you can if you both
(06:13):
agree to, you can say, you know, we're going to
to give it a hyphen double barrel, or we're going
to give it the mother's name, or whatever it is.
But kids in Italy are automatically registered with their father's surname,
and the mother's surname is only permitted if the father
is absent from the child's life. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Look, I mean I read this. I have opinions on
it for multiple reasons, but I think it is really
an injustice, and I know that that's one thing he said.
He described it as centuries old injustice. But it is
an injustice if the only time the mother's name is
permitted to be the chosen name is in the absence
(06:50):
of a dad, because the thing is, there's a lot
of dads who might show up as a really half
assed parent who then may be in and out of
that kid's life for the rest of their life. I
understand that that's a possibility. And it may be also
that the mum does know who the father is, but
they're not together and he's not an active participant in
the child's life. Like, there's so many reasons, so many
(07:11):
reasons why it shouldn't just be the default of the
dad's name. It should always be a conversation. But I
think like having it like this and having it written
into legislation means that it makes it really hard for
moms who want to be able to have the same
last names as their children and also have that connection
to them.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
So do you think here in Australia would you ever
want it to be the default that it was the
mother's surname that was give passed on.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I mean, like, I don't think we need it to
be a default here because I think we have the
opportunity of choice. The problem is, though, is that we
are still very steeped in tradition that most women take
on their partner's name. There's definitely been changes. I didn't
take on my partner's last name when we got married.
My name's Burn, his last name's Johnson. There's definitely people
who are breaking from that. However, I would be lying
(07:56):
if I didn't say that. They're like literal years and
years and years, and my upbringing and everything else didn't
influence my decision making when it came to me having children.
I never took on Matt's last name. But when I
was pregnant with Marley, it wasn't even a consideration as
to whether she would have my last name or Matt's
last name. It was as though it was just an expectation.
(08:18):
So we never discussed it, and both my both my
children or our children were still happily married. Both our
children have the last name Johnson, and I don't share
that last name with them. And in our family it's fine,
because you know, I grew up in a family that
had lots of last names, because my mum got remarried
and I had a half brother who's you know, my brother,
but we all had different last names. However, it is
(08:39):
interesting to me that even though I think I am
progressive in this space I have no interest in changing
my last name. That it didn't even occur to me
that my kids having my last name was an option.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Did that not even come on to your radar when
you were getting married, that maybe you could give them
your name.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
No, Because I you know, regardless of whether we are
together forever or not, he's a great dad. I know
he will always be a co parent. I think we're
going to be together forever. That's not me saying otherwise.
But I knew that I had a great parent in him,
so it doesn't bother me that they had the last name.
The thing is, that's not always the case. And I
think about my brother growing up. So my mom, she
(09:16):
had my little brother, we've got a quite a big
age gap, and he has a different last name to me.
His dad was absent from from the day he was born.
My mom raised him as a single mom.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
She doesn't even get the name.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And like they were married, you know, it was a
very tremultuous relationship. He was a horrible person, and my
mum ended up keeping her married name his last name
because she didn't want my brother to grow up in
a household where he was the only one who had
a different name.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Maybe she didn't think of that as an option. She
could have also changed his last name.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
The problem is is once it's on a birth certificate,
you have to get their approval to change the name.
You can't as a mum just change a name. So
I think the problem is is that a lot of
women in Australia and across the world are in situations
where they have no contact with their ex'es or their
past anders. They may not even be nice people, and
yet their children have to carry the last name of
that person because it was never an option to them.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Well, it is interesting the arguing against this. There's another
politician over there, Mateo Salvini. He has said that if
this bill comes into place, we are wiping these fathers
off the face of the earth, which I think is
interesting because for centuries, what have we done wiped the
women off the face of the earth pretty much.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I think that my argument to that is I don't
I don't have a last name as my kids, but
I'm still their mum. I haven't been wiped off the
face of this earth exactly. My role and responsibility as
a mum is not defined by the fact that I
don't have the same last name as my kids one
hundred percent. Yeah, I think that. I mean that to
me just feels very fragile, ego unfortunately interesting to see
(10:42):
what happens.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I feel like Italy and France are usually pretty progressive
with these kind of things, So watch this space.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Have you ever done your DNA test, like an ancestry test.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I actually haven't, but I've never felt the need to.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Are you just a bit curious about like I don't
know your family tree and like what it is? What's
your maker?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I mean if you are questioning where I'm from?
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Yeah, if you have questions about me, I can definitely
go and get it done.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I don't belong to my parents.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
No, i's this going. Do you know something? I don't, Brittany,
this is your life? No, I find it really fascinating.
And so my husband and I we actually did DNA
tests together recently, ancestry DNA tests, and we got an
email saying that their results were inconclusive. So we weren't
able to get our results back. And I don't know,
(11:29):
but I'm gonna do it again because I made these
big jokes to Matt and I was like, what if,
like they found out something because when you do it.
You have to submit like this is my dad, this
is my mom, this, and you submit as much as
your family tree as you possibly can. And I was like,
what if the reason why they kept it is because
they found out something they don't want us to know
about it, Like maybe your dad's not your dad.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
They don't want to blow up your life.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Maybe my uncle's not my uncle.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I don't know, but like, look, I think they'd tell
you if you're your uncle of your uncle's that's not
that impactful.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Well, I don't know, I think it is. Anyway, this
article that came out, so a woman kind of she
went and did all the different DNA tests. There's a
couple that are really big ones in Australia. One's my
heritage obviously ancestry DNA, which I think most people know of.
And then there's also another one which is kind of
like the crem Dela Creme of DNA tests called twenty.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Three And me, hasn't that just gone into what's it
called receivership?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, maybe you know more about it than I.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
You're like the krem Dela Creme. I'm like, it just
went down to go go.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Do you know why they say it's the crem dela
creme purely because it's the most expensive, it's meant to
be the most thorough. But in the experience of this woman,
it absolutely wasn't the case. But one thing she did
find out plot twist. She found out that her childhood crush,
who she had been obsessed with and in love with
for the majority of her adolescents, turned out to be
(12:41):
her cousin. Imagine if you found out not when you know,
not a childhood crush. Imagine if you found out like
you were dating. There was a.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Couple that found out in America. She did the DNA test.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
She found out that her husband or fiance was a
direct relation to her, and she was going to bury
that information.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Tell him I can't remember, I'm on the edge of
my seat.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Produce your grace park to look it up.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
So there was a couple who discovered, after ten years
of marriage and having three children that they were cousins.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, and they found out via DNA.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
You just stay if you're being married and you've got kids,
it's goorn too far. You're in two DP, you've already
done all that.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
You're in white lotus territory.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Just staying there. Look, I mean we opened up the
text line and also I did a call out on
my Instagram for this. You would be shocked by how
many people discovered really salacious things about their families or
about their lives. This One girl wrote in and said
that her grandma had six kids and they all did
their ancestry tests as grandchildren, and they found out that
the grandma had been having an affair with the farmer
(13:40):
who lived on the farm next door, in Italian farmer,
and the youngest three children were not actually their grandfathers,
but it was this Italian farmer. So three of the
kids had the Italian heritage in DNA, and they were
all linked to a different dad.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
They were all having a rumble behind the shed.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
No, they weren't just her, just the grandma. The kids
absolutely were not rumbling, They all weren't.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
But they were Wow.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Good on her. People who found out that their biological
dad just wasn't like their dad, wasn't their dad. Loads
of those came in. That would be a really sad discovery.
Imagining thirty years old and finding out that your dad's
not actually a biological dad. Know that that is gut
wrenching and your mum did the dirty all those over there.
Another girl wrote, my sister found out that she has
a different dad. There's a lot of dads out here
(14:24):
that are finding out that they either have kids that
they didn't know they had, or that they're not the
father to the kids they thought they did have.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I just think, let dead dogs lie. What that's the saying,
isn't it?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
This is why I would worry about going and doing
a test, not that I think anything would come of it,
but I'm happy with my life. I don't need the disruption.
If it came out then my dad wasn't my dad,
which he definitely is. Hang On, I don't want to
go anywhere my dad is my dad. I don't have
any queries, but I'm just saying sometimes I think ignorance
is bliss.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
How's this one? This girl found out that Ivan Malatt
is her dad's second cousin. See you know that's Skelton
in a wardrobe and a closet.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
You don't need to know about it related to a psychopath?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
What are you going to do with that information?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Anyway? We've got to call her on the line, Rosie,
What did you find out from your ancestry? DNA hibrit
high Lord time.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Yeah, it wasn't myself directly, but it was a family member.
It was probably in her late fifties at the time.
She'd been doing the whole ancestry journey for a long
amount of time with her sister and her dad wasn't
her real dad, and it was actually the next door
neighbor when she was growing up.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I linking to the neighbor though, how did she get there?
Speaker 4 (15:32):
I think maybe that family had also been doing kind
of their own journey, so there was already DNA kind
of in the system that was able to be linked. Yeah,
a bit of a shock.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
So did his neighbor. What's the outcome here? Did the
neighbor take her on as like the dad?
Speaker 4 (15:47):
So look, I'm not sure he was actually alive, but
I do know that she's now in touch with the
children that he did have, so she has kind of
got other siblings out there, and she's in very much
the same mindset as you said, Britt, Like, you know,
my great grandfather was her dad, that's who raised her.
So still kind of her opinion, but kind of good
story is which is yeah, kind of got some more
(16:08):
family members out of it.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
So that's nice, all right, you sold me, I'll go
do one.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I don't want to do one because I'm frightened to
what I might find out.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
To be honest, you need to do one because you've
done it and it came back inconclusive. So either they're
saying that you're one of those avatars and your DNA
doesn't match the humans, or something is a myths, so
we need to get.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
To the bottom of that.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
That is not a story arc that I want to
unpack on radio.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
That you're an avatar, that you're not related to your parents.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
All right, guys, well that is it from us today.
A good pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura Burn Brady
or work our windows my world rison the dust. Only
good babs are all down. I don't much, but yeah,
I know I'll big get and what I want. It
don't matter where. This is the pickup, Hi, guys, it's
(00:23):
a pick up with Britt Hockley and Laura Burn.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
And you've got a very important appointment tonight. Laura, and
you were just telling me about.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I'm leaving the show today to go and get my girls,
to go and do a mad dash to Kmart to
go and get everything that we need to make Easter
hats for the Easter hat parade.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
What are you going? You're going like a wide brim
a cap. What's the base?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
The problem with Easter hat parades is that you really
have to work with whatever you can find. So it's
a bit of a scavenger hunt. Because you hear me out,
I don't think that's true. I think you can do more.
Shops need to like sell things that are specific for
making the Easter hats. You gotta go hunting. You gotta find,
like we things to hot glue gun on it, or
it's a paper mache or crepe paper, like it's a
whole thing. I just loved Pitchy doing it. I do
(01:05):
it every year. What are you talking about last year?
I went and bought like fake flowers, and so she
had like ornaments of rabbits stuck on her hat and
then fake flowers around the ornaments. It was a masterpiece.
She held onto that one. It's still in the cupboard.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
You know. One of the only things I've ever won
in life. Couldn't even win The Bachelor. The only thing
I ever won was the easter hat parade when I
was about five years old.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I nailed it. We had to do a well do
you still do it?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Is?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Do I do an actual parade? The parade around?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Oh, we were on the catwalk. I'd gone to modeling classes.
I did model classes.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I knew how to walk, and I strutted that hat
and I had you know what won me?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Plus my mum.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
It was a full easter hat parade, like beautiful hat,
but it was a wide brim and she put like,
we're in the outback where you put like cork to
get the flies away, And so I had like an
outback cork swinging around my head.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Sorry, was it cork? Or was it tiny little easter eggs,
because that would have been.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Well, maybe she did the East trokes. I can't remember,
but it was to keep the flies away.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I thought I won. I mean that gives me some
that gives me some inspo. Maybe I can do that,
but with Easter eggs.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah, she'll probably win if you do that.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I do have to get her into modeling school. That's
probably the ones.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I'll come around this afternoon. I'll show her some things.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Now. Look, I have been unintentionally, slightly intentionally. It started
off intentional. It was intentional, but now it's unintentional rage
baiting people on the internet. Now, if you don't know
what rage baiting is, it's basically when you create content
on Instagram with the intention of making people angry.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I feel like it's pretty self explanatory, Like you're baiting
the rage.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I'm baiting the rage. Yeah. My husband and I, Matt,
we have been doing a renovation and we've been documenting
the process over the last couple of months. It's been
nine months. And let me tell you, we have put
some blood, sweat and tears into this renovation and dollars
and some cash. It is eclectic, it is weird. I
mean you described as a Willy Wonker house, but we
(02:52):
wanted to have a house that was like colorful and
fun that when you walked into it, you felt like
you're on a holiday.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
It is a fun house. You got to put those
sunglasses onto walking.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Over the last couple of months, we've realized that people
either love it or they hate it. And in the
last week we've started to do room reveals because we
were our own little mini block here. The first one
was the bathroom, the second one was the kitchen. And
I just want to say I was not prepared for
how angry renovation content makes people.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
You baited too hard.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I didn't mean to age. The problem is that when
past rage baiting and now it's like people are just
being me and I'm like, this is still my house, guys.
So this is what I mean by it's making people enraged. Firstly,
Daily Mail has written an article about how enraged people
are if you want to go and look for it.
But also it things like this, oh, actually funny. Her
handle is plain Jane, so maybe it's why she doesn't
(03:41):
like it, but she wrote love that for you. You
were being stubborn with your style. I just don't understand
how it works though it doesn't work with the natural simplicity.
It's ugly.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Wow, imagine writing someone.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Here's another review. Oh my god, that marble is hideous.
Here's another review from Stacy Yuck. The cupboard doesn't match
anything and the tiles are just horrible.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Hang on in the kitchen or we're stillroom.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
We're in the bathroom now. Marble fixtures and layout is
the only saving grace. This person wrote, well, you would
be ripped to pieces by SHANEA blaze. Let's put it
that way. It's a no from me too.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Okay, well it's not the block. Shane is not coming
to stay.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Someone wrote you couldn't pay me to stay here, and
I was like, you'll never get to stay here.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
It's okay, Sharon, you're not invited.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
And then the last one was and this was about
the kitchen reveal, So that was the second room that
we were like really excited to share with everyone. And
someone wrote better than your crap.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Bathroom at these private dms written publicly.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Look, I'll be honest, I.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Guess you do put it out there. You open yourself
up when you say what do you think? Yeah, which
you did do so you have to expect people to
say that they don't like.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I want people to know that, like, I'm okay with
it because, like we there's been a lot of kind feedback.
There's been a lot of people who love it. There's
been a lot of people who are into the maxim minimalist,
like eclectic style of a crazy house that's got personality,
and then there are people who are not, And I
appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Producer Grace, why don't we get some of the block
judges on, why don't we get one of them on,
let's show them some of the house. Let's get and
see what they think, what Shana thinks, Let's see what
SHANEA thinks.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Darren Palmer, Darren Palmer is going to be like, it's
a monstrosity, let's do it. Yeah, I'm down. My only
worry is someone saying things like, oh my god, it's
getting worse. And I was like, guys, we've shown the
best two rooms. You started from the top, like it
really is. It really does get worse.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
There's a really interesting discussion going down all the way
over in Italy.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Now.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
The reason that I want to talk about this is
because it's something that I have been thinking about recently
getting married. Whose name I'm going to take my fiancees
or not? What are we going to name our kids?
Whose name are going to give them?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
But over in.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Italy there's a politician named Dario Francescini who is proposing
a new bill that any children born will automatically take
the mother's surname instead of the father's surname. Now, we
know in Australia that the default usually is the father's name,
but you can choose, so you can if you both
(06:13):
agree to, you can say, you know, we're going to
to give it a hyphen double barrel, or we're going
to give it the mother's name, or whatever it is.
But kids in Italy are automatically registered with their father's surname,
and the mother's surname is only permitted if the father
is absent from the child's life. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Look, I mean I read this. I have opinions on
it for multiple reasons, but I think it is really
an injustice, and I know that that's one thing he said.
He described it as centuries old injustice. But it is
an injustice if the only time the mother's name is
permitted to be the chosen name is in the absence
(06:50):
of a dad, because the thing is, there's a lot
of dads who might show up as a really half
assed parent who then may be in and out of
that kid's life for the rest of their life. I
understand that that's a possibility. And it may be also
that the mum does know who the father is, but
they're not together and he's not an active participant in
the child's life. Like, there's so many reasons, so many
(07:11):
reasons why it shouldn't just be the default of the
dad's name. It should always be a conversation. But I
think like having it like this and having it written
into legislation means that it makes it really hard for
moms who want to be able to have the same
last names as their children and also have that connection
to them.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
So do you think here in Australia would you ever
want it to be the default that it was the
mother's surname that was give passed on.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I mean, like, I don't think we need it to
be a default here because I think we have the
opportunity of choice. The problem is, though, is that we
are still very steeped in tradition that most women take
on their partner's name. There's definitely been changes. I didn't
take on my partner's last name when we got married.
My name's Burn, his last name's Johnson. There's definitely people
who are breaking from that. However, I would be lying
(07:56):
if I didn't say that. They're like literal years and
years and years, and my upbringing and everything else didn't
influence my decision making when it came to me having children.
I never took on Matt's last name. But when I
was pregnant with Marley, it wasn't even a consideration as
to whether she would have my last name or Matt's
last name. It was as though it was just an expectation.
(08:18):
So we never discussed it, and both my both my
children or our children were still happily married. Both our
children have the last name Johnson, and I don't share
that last name with them. And in our family it's fine,
because you know, I grew up in a family that
had lots of last names, because my mum got remarried
and I had a half brother who's you know, my brother,
but we all had different last names. However, it is
(08:39):
interesting to me that even though I think I am
progressive in this space I have no interest in changing
my last name. That it didn't even occur to me
that my kids having my last name was an option.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Did that not even come on to your radar when
you were getting married, that maybe you could give them
your name.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
No, Because I you know, regardless of whether we are
together forever or not, he's a great dad. I know
he will always be a co parent. I think we're
going to be together forever. That's not me saying otherwise.
But I knew that I had a great parent in him,
so it doesn't bother me that they had the last name.
The thing is, that's not always the case. And I
think about my brother growing up. So my mom, she
(09:16):
had my little brother, we've got a quite a big
age gap, and he has a different last name to me.
His dad was absent from from the day he was born.
My mom raised him as a single mom.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
She doesn't even get the name.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And like they were married, you know, it was a
very tremultuous relationship. He was a horrible person, and my
mum ended up keeping her married name his last name
because she didn't want my brother to grow up in
a household where he was the only one who had
a different name.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Maybe she didn't think of that as an option. She
could have also changed his last name.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
The problem is is once it's on a birth certificate,
you have to get their approval to change the name.
You can't as a mum just change a name. So
I think the problem is is that a lot of
women in Australia and across the world are in situations
where they have no contact with their ex'es or their
past anders. They may not even be nice people, and
yet their children have to carry the last name of
that person because it was never an option to them.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Well, it is interesting the arguing against this. There's another
politician over there, Mateo Salvini. He has said that if
this bill comes into place, we are wiping these fathers
off the face of the earth, which I think is
interesting because for centuries, what have we done wiped the
women off the face of the earth pretty much.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I think that my argument to that is I don't
I don't have a last name as my kids, but
I'm still their mum. I haven't been wiped off the
face of this earth exactly. My role and responsibility as
a mum is not defined by the fact that I
don't have the same last name as my kids one
hundred percent. Yeah, I think that. I mean that to
me just feels very fragile, ego unfortunately interesting to see
(10:42):
what happens.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I feel like Italy and France are usually pretty progressive
with these kind of things, So watch this space.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Have you ever done your DNA test, like an ancestry test.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I actually haven't, but I've never felt the need to.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Are you just a bit curious about like I don't
know your family tree and like what it is? What's
your maker?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I mean if you are questioning where I'm from?
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Yeah, if you have questions about me, I can definitely
go and get it done.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I don't belong to my parents.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
No, i's this going. Do you know something? I don't, Brittany,
this is your life? No, I find it really fascinating.
And so my husband and I we actually did DNA
tests together recently, ancestry DNA tests, and we got an
email saying that their results were inconclusive. So we weren't
able to get our results back. And I don't know,
(11:29):
but I'm gonna do it again because I made these
big jokes to Matt and I was like, what if,
like they found out something because when you do it.
You have to submit like this is my dad, this
is my mom, this, and you submit as much as
your family tree as you possibly can. And I was like,
what if the reason why they kept it is because
they found out something they don't want us to know
about it, Like maybe your dad's not your dad.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
They don't want to blow up your life.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Maybe my uncle's not my uncle.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I don't know, but like, look, I think they'd tell
you if you're your uncle of your uncle's that's not
that impactful.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Well, I don't know, I think it is. Anyway, this
article that came out, so a woman kind of she
went and did all the different DNA tests. There's a
couple that are really big ones in Australia. One's my
heritage obviously ancestry DNA, which I think most people know of.
And then there's also another one which is kind of
like the crem Dela Creme of DNA tests called twenty.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Three And me, hasn't that just gone into what's it
called receivership?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, maybe you know more about it than I.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
You're like the krem Dela Creme. I'm like, it just
went down to go go.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Do you know why they say it's the crem dela
creme purely because it's the most expensive, it's meant to
be the most thorough. But in the experience of this woman,
it absolutely wasn't the case. But one thing she did
find out plot twist. She found out that her childhood crush,
who she had been obsessed with and in love with
for the majority of her adolescents, turned out to be
(12:41):
her cousin. Imagine if you found out not when you know,
not a childhood crush. Imagine if you found out like
you were dating. There was a.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Couple that found out in America. She did the DNA test.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
She found out that her husband or fiance was a
direct relation to her, and she was going to bury
that information.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Tell him I can't remember, I'm on the edge of
my seat.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Produce your grace park to look it up.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
So there was a couple who discovered, after ten years
of marriage and having three children that they were cousins.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, and they found out via DNA.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
You just stay if you're being married and you've got kids,
it's goorn too far. You're in two DP, you've already
done all that.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
You're in white lotus territory.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Just staying there. Look, I mean we opened up the
text line and also I did a call out on
my Instagram for this. You would be shocked by how
many people discovered really salacious things about their families or
about their lives. This One girl wrote in and said
that her grandma had six kids and they all did
their ancestry tests as grandchildren, and they found out that
the grandma had been having an affair with the farmer
(13:40):
who lived on the farm next door, in Italian farmer,
and the youngest three children were not actually their grandfathers,
but it was this Italian farmer. So three of the
kids had the Italian heritage in DNA, and they were
all linked to a different dad.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
They were all having a rumble behind the shed.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
No, they weren't just her, just the grandma. The kids
absolutely were not rumbling, They all weren't.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
But they were Wow.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Good on her. People who found out that their biological
dad just wasn't like their dad, wasn't their dad. Loads
of those came in. That would be a really sad discovery.
Imagining thirty years old and finding out that your dad's
not actually a biological dad. Know that that is gut
wrenching and your mum did the dirty all those over there.
Another girl wrote, my sister found out that she has
a different dad. There's a lot of dads out here
(14:24):
that are finding out that they either have kids that
they didn't know they had, or that they're not the
father to the kids they thought they did have.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I just think, let dead dogs lie. What that's the saying,
isn't it?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
This is why I would worry about going and doing
a test, not that I think anything would come of it,
but I'm happy with my life. I don't need the disruption.
If it came out then my dad wasn't my dad,
which he definitely is. Hang On, I don't want to
go anywhere my dad is my dad. I don't have
any queries, but I'm just saying sometimes I think ignorance
is bliss.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
How's this one? This girl found out that Ivan Malatt
is her dad's second cousin. See you know that's Skelton
in a wardrobe and a closet.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
You don't need to know about it related to a psychopath?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
What are you going to do with that information?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Anyway? We've got to call her on the line, Rosie,
What did you find out from your ancestry? DNA hibrit
high Lord time.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Yeah, it wasn't myself directly, but it was a family member.
It was probably in her late fifties at the time.
She'd been doing the whole ancestry journey for a long
amount of time with her sister and her dad wasn't
her real dad, and it was actually the next door
neighbor when she was growing up.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I linking to the neighbor though, how did she get there?
Speaker 4 (15:32):
I think maybe that family had also been doing kind
of their own journey, so there was already DNA kind
of in the system that was able to be linked. Yeah,
a bit of a shock.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
So did his neighbor. What's the outcome here? Did the
neighbor take her on as like the dad?
Speaker 4 (15:47):
So look, I'm not sure he was actually alive, but
I do know that she's now in touch with the
children that he did have, so she has kind of
got other siblings out there, and she's in very much
the same mindset as you said, Britt, Like, you know,
my great grandfather was her dad, that's who raised her.
So still kind of her opinion, but kind of good
story is which is yeah, kind of got some more
(16:08):
family members out of it.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
So that's nice, all right, you sold me, I'll go
do one.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I don't want to do one because I'm frightened to
what I might find out.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
To be honest, you need to do one because you've
done it and it came back inconclusive. So either they're
saying that you're one of those avatars and your DNA
doesn't match the humans, or something is a myths, so
we need to get.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
To the bottom of that.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
That is not a story arc that I want to
unpack on radio.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
That you're an avatar, that you're not related to your parents.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
All right, guys, well that is it from us today.
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