April 29, 2025 • 17 mins
Britt has come across a school that is trialing using AI to teach students. Laura may have jumped the gun on the success of the Dummy Fairy, and a study has revealed that both men AND women prefer to date younger.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hi Heart podcasts, hear more Kiss podcast playlist and listen
live on the Free iHeart app A good pickup with
Britt Hockley and Laura Burn Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
What our windows down?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
That's my world, risen the dust, only good babs all round.
I don't much, but yeah I know I'll big get.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
And what I want.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
It don't matter. Where does this is the pickup?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Hi guys, it's the pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura Burn.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Now there's no confirmation, but there is speculation that Beyonce
could be coming to Australia on part of her tour.
I would, hands down go and see that in a heartbeat.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah, saying, hey, what about Katy Perry? Though she isn't
she You're gonna go see her?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
She just annoys me a little bit too much now
and I feel like it's interrupting my feelings about the music.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I am at a point now where I feel a
bit sorry for Katy Perry.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I think the.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Pylon is hard and swift, even if she does come
across a little bit insufferable, but she's still very harsh.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, it was pretty fast, wasn't It was like a
rocket The pylon get it. It's not funny. I thought
it was funny. No, But what I want to talk
about Beyonce, not the fact that I would go to
her concept. But I read this this morning and it
really pissed me off. People are slamming her and saying
like she's a failure and she's done and all of
this stuff because her concert didn't immediately sell out. And
(01:35):
there are some people that are selling tickets for like
twenty thirty dollars.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
So the resell on like the resell.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah, like some people like, hey, just here's a ticket.
It's cheap, and everyone's like comparing it to the same
price as a happy meal, And I'm like, this is Beyonce.
We love to see it, like this woman has been
at the top of her game for twenty years. We
love to wait for like the tiniest thing that we
can grasp onto because maybe she didn't sell out a
show for the first time.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
When you say resell value, does this turn It is
the people trying to scout tickets, so like people who
have bought lots of tickets, they do it at a
bet that it's going to sell out quickly and then
they can resell it for a higher value.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah, well I then assume that's what the twenty dollars resell. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I kind of think, well, if anything like sucks to
be them, like you deserve that, because it's so annoying
when you had these people who buy out so many
tickets and then try and resell it for more expensive
Like it's just such a shitty business plan.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I just was annoyed at the headlines trying to like
slam on a woman just because you know, she's just
won Album of the Year. The woman is not failing.
The woman is a billionaire. The woman has an amazing
family and a husband. And I just hate the fact
that we're like, yes, we knew what you suck. You're done, Like,
get a life. Anyway, if she comes here, I'm gonna
go see he for twenty bucks.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Well maybe I'm going to go and see Katie Perry
as well.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I actually yours.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I would like to go and see her. I'm not
against it, Okay, So no one's coming with me, right.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I want to talk to you today, Laura about AI
and teaching. Now. I know there's a lot of people
in the world that are scared that AI is going
to end up taking over and taking jobs because it's
sort of what it's doing, like it's putting a lot
of people out of work. And there are a lot
of people saying that AI is very close to out
smarting us as humans, like they don't need us anymore
to repro themselves. Now, that will be a scary day.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I mean, that doesn't surprise me though, Like, I mean,
they have the answers to everything since it is constantly
connected to the Internet.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Well, something very controversial is happening over in the UK.
So there is a college, a private school in London
called David Game College, and it is about to open
its first class of teacherless courses to twenty people. Now
it's done a trial with seven students. This is a
course that is going to be run almost one hundred
percent solely on AI robots. So the teacher is going
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to be a robot that is programmed for them. They
will learn just with headsets. Like there's a photo here.
This is what the classroom's going to look like. Right,
you'll go to school, You'll put an AI headset on.
Looks like a virtual reality headset. Yeah, virtual reality, And
that's how it's going to be taught. There's going to
be three people like still real humans that are going
to be like helpers to the robot that will be
in the room to help with things like emotional support
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and teach the things that the AI robot isn't good at. Now,
the things that the AI robot isn't good at is
like sex education and things like that, because I guess
robots don't have sex apparently, so they don't know how
to teach that. But I don't know how I feel
like I really did this deep dive into it. At
the start, when I heard that a robot could be
teaching the class, I was like, that is wild. I
(04:21):
would never want my kid to be taught by AI.
And then when I read a little bit more about it,
it definitely has some pros in it as well. So
like each child does its studies on a computer with
its headset, but they're not all the same. So the
computer and the AI will learn what that particular student
is excelling at and what they're not excelling at. Then
it tailors its course and its curriculum to push it
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in so it becomes like an even playing field for everyone.
So if it sees that you're lacking in something, whether
that's maths or science or chemistry. It tailors its program
to your specific needs, and so there are parts of
it like that where I'm like, well, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
When I first saw this, when you said David Game College,
I just looked it up because I was like, oh,
it might be like a coding school, Like it might
be like David Game I don't know, like gamer.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I was like, maybe it's like a school for people
who who are who are gamers.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
It's just a normal private school. I think that most
parents would have an issue with this. I think that
that most people out there would feel as though, you know, look,
I understand that this might come into being a standard
in the future, but no one wants their kids to
be the guinea pigs of a new procedure. And that
would be the thing that I would be the most
concerned about, because AI, yes it's very smart, and yes
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it can adapt to people's learning skills and everything else,
but it doesn't have empathy. It doesn't know how to
show emotional intelligence, it doesn't know how to cater to students'
very unique needs, and it also doesn't know how to
read how someone's feeling, like a kid could be feeling
panicked about the information that they're getting, or they could
be feeling stressed or have anxiety or whatever, and there's
no way for AI to pick up on those social cues.
(05:55):
So I think that this really only suits a very
specific type of learning, And what we've all learned from
going through school is that all kids learn differently, and
all kids need different support structures and support systems in place.
And I think that this goes backwards, not forwards.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
With that, I think we need to come to this
sort of acceptance and realization in the world that we
can't beat AI. AI is our future. It is going
to be integrated into all aspects of our life. And
I do think it's going to come into schools and
colleges around the world, but I don't think it should
ever come in one hundred percent, Like I think we
should be working alongside it. So maybe it's okay that
(06:31):
they've still got three support teachers in the classroom, and
maybe that's the part where the empathy comes in and
things like that.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
My other point to these is is, like I mean,
looking at this and looking at these kids sitting with
virtual reality goggles on.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
In a classroom.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
There's something really isolating about that, like they're not having
a combined learning experience.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I think so much learning, and I think.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
About this from a workplace as well, comes from the brainstorming.
It comes from the creativity of what other people think,
or the questions that other people have, because that question
might spark something that's of interest to you. You know,
it's a collaborative learning experience in a classroom, and this
makes learning very isolated and individual and I don't know
if that is actually socially a benefit to kids.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Well. The other thing that people are kicking off about,
and I think fair, is that per year per student,
this school costs thirty five thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
And now they've removed some teachers from the equation that
employ less people but still make the same amount of money.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Everyone's like, what, how an't you paying the robot? How
much you paying them? Is their salary more than the
average teacher, like thirty five thousand dollars per I.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Mean, look, I understand that it's something that we're not
going to be able to move away from in the future,
but I would not want my kids being the guinea
pig for this type of learning at all like, And
I think schools and teachers have such a huge responsibility
as it is, there is so much on them in
terms of what they have to provide. But I don't
think that this is the solution to that problem. I
think more support for teachers is the solution.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
It's also crazy. I think that one day our kids
will say to us, Oh my god, I can't believe
you were taught by like a human. That's so lame.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
But also like, why are we increasing screen time? Like
there's no there's so many refugere flags about this.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
The other week, if you guys will this, I told
a story about how the dummy Fairy came to our
house and she took my daughter, who is four years old, Lola,
her prize possession, and that was her five dummies that
she has had since literally the day she was born.
She loves these dummies more than she loves anything that's
ever existed.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, and we had to bring the dummy fairy in
because she's going to school next year, and there was
no other way for you to get rid of them.
So we're like, what can we do?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
In my defense, she wasn't supposed to be going to
school next year, we thought, we have another year of daycare,
but she's still four. Yeah, she's four, all right, Look
it's my faults. It was really hard because it's the
one thing that she just loved more than anything in
the world. And like any night that we'd ever done
without a dummy, she only has it to go to sleep,
and then we take it off her when she is asleep.
So it's just that transition period that any night that
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we'd ever forgotten it, or we'd been at a hotel,
or she'd lost or anything like that, it was like, yeah,
I don't have anything to compare it to. I honestly
thought that getting rid of the dummies was going to
be the worst part of our parenting experience. But we
did the Dummy Fairy, and the Dummy Fairy came and
she brought a present, and you know, it was a
really exciting positive change. And I think Lola was the
(09:17):
one who was ready. She said, you know, I'm ready
for the Dummy Fairy and I'm ready to get rid
of them, and everything seemingly has been going great. I
even got on the show and talked about how cocky
I was that actually, the dummy Fairy is a genius.
Idea and yeah, look, I feel like I cracked the
code with it, with like the specific way of the.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Dummy fairy coming and visiting.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Why do I feel like this sounds too good to
be true?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
So over the long weekends that just passed, we went
away for a little weekend. I took my travel makeup
case with me. I don't unpack it very often. It's
got a lot of junk in it, but you know,
it's a good one to take with me because if
I lose it, I.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Don't really care.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
And we're in the bathroom and Lola was just going
through my makeup as she normally does, and then I
hear her go.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I was like, what's that? And I looked down and
there it is.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
You missed a dummy.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
We missed a dummy. One job, Laura, we missed one
hidden rogue dummy.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
This dummy is so fairal It has been floating around
the bottom of my makeup case probably for two years,
like that dummy is an infection waiting to happen. And
she picked it up and she created it in her
hands and instantly started rubbing it on her face and.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I was like, so I didn't go in the mouth.
She rubs it on.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
She rubs it on her face. Yeah, does she God? Yeah,
she rubs it on her cheek. She likes the feeling,
and then of course she puts it in her mouth.
But I got in there. I intercepted before it happened.
But it has completely derailed us. Okay, so now we're
like two months clear of the dummy Fairy, and now
every night she's like, but what about that one?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
So she's probably relapsed. She's had a relap, she's relapsed,
she's back in rehab, dummy rehab.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I do I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Does the dummy Fairy come again and take the next time?
Like she knows that it's there.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
No, stop pandering. You get some scissors and you cut it,
and you cut it in front of her. I've heard
people say it, that's so true. No, she's going to school,
she needs to loan. She's old enough. You cut dummy's
and then.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
You smack her And no, I'm joking.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Sorry, you expac people, we've all got trouble.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
You grew up in the eighties.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
You just say, look, now it doesn't work, it's broken,
and you also tell her that it's an infection. You're like, look,
how dirty. This is you will get so sick if
you have this. We have to cut it. Now, you
cut it. She sees that it's gone, none of this
dummy fairy anymore. She's gone to school. Life doesn't pander
to us. She needs to know that sometimes we make
hard decisions. I think, go hard with the dummy.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
If I was a child and I got to choose
whether I was like I had me, I'm not choosing
bread my child.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I tell you what they're not. No, they will be
doing just fine in life.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I agree. I agree.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Look, there are times when I do think that we
are too soft in our kids.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
But I also know that this.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Is like the one thing for Lola that's a very
big deal for her, and it's going to be bigger deals.
Don't get me wrong, Like I haven't given it to her.
I don't want anyone to think that I've caved. I've
stayed strong. But it's just it's been journey last couple
of days.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Why need to get something else to rub on a
face that feels nice? Serious? Like if it's like a
sensory thing, go as something else. It's not that she
can't put in a mouth.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
That's the problem.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
The problem we have now is is that anything she
picks up like it could be a hair elastic, it
could be a toy, a piece of lego. Anything she
picks up now straight in the mouth, she'll just put
it in her mouth and should chill on it. And
she never ever used to do that when she had
the dummy at nighttime. But I think it's because she's
just trying to find other things to sell South.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
So every time I look at her.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
She's put some choking hazard is gone into a mouth
that is hard.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah, all day I am on like choke watch.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I feel like this whole conversation, you'd be like, take
that back.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Do you know what, don't come to me for parenting advice.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
That's what we've established it. That's pretty much it.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Now we are talking dating age ranges, whether people like
to date down in age or date up in range.
Britt was spoken about this a little bit before, because
you you have gone on record and clearly don't mind
you're dating someone who's a bit younger than you.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Well, I'm marrying someone younger than me. That's true.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
You're engaged to someone who is a little bit younger
than you that you have no qualms in dating down
in terms of age. No, my fiance Ben is five
years younger than me, and me to the oldest age
gap though that you would date down for well, my
relationship before that was seven years and that's the biggest
that I've gone seven years down, and I before I
(13:27):
met him, I probably wouldn't have said I would have
gone that far in an age gap, Like in my head,
I probably would have said five would have been about it.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
But I don't know where I pulled that number from.
That's just come from this preconceived idea that men take
so much longer to mature, so like I wouldn't have
wanted to have that big gap. But having said that,
when I met my the seven year partner difference, he
was only twenty five at the time, so I was
in my thirties and twenty five sounds so young. But
I didn't notice it, so it didn't bother me. But
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I just seemed to be attracted to young men.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Well, I think I would always have said that I
date older guys, like I would have said that would
have been my preference older men. Interestingly, though, is that
my husband is a year younger than me.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Which doesn't really well it's not a big deal.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
But sometimes our birthdays because there's like a couple of
months where they don't align. So there is a few
months in the year where I'm two years older than him,
he's two years younger than me.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
But like, I've never really thought about it.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
If I was going to have put my age range
in tender, I think I would have put my age
range as like my age and up. I don't think
I ever would have had that bracket as age down
at all.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Nah. You say that as someone that was on that
for like ten years. It goes to the radiuses is
because it gets in the age gaps as because it
gets it's like you end up casting that net far
and wide. Desperation.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
It's not come on, it's not desperation. No, no options open.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
No. It comes to the point for every woman listening
in the car right now that has been single and
on those date a.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Sixty year old, it would be fine. I got a
thirty year age GAP's okay.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I got to the point where it was like extend
range and it was like you cannot extend the range
any further. It was like five hour drive away, and
I feel like I will do it. I will meet
you halfway, I will go on a date with you.
But the stereotype definitely is and has always been that
men date down and women date now.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
The reason why we're talking about this is because, interestingly,
there's been a research study that's come out of the
University of California. They did a research study across four
thousand and five hundred blind dates, and what they found
is that often people think that they have a perceived
attraction to an age or they.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
You know, people think they have.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
A type, but when it actually comes from sitting across
from someone who it is that they're actually attracted to,
can be very, very different. And what the outcome of
this study found is that both men and women statistically
like to date younger So I think for so long
we've assumed that women would prefer to date older men,
(15:46):
But interestingly, this study is found that actually women as
well like to date younger men. Everyone wants someone who's
a little bit younger than me.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
It doesn't shock me. You know who has taken an
age gap really really far? Is Madonna?
Speaker 2 (16:00):
What's the game?
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Madonna is sixty six and her partner is twenty eight
and share so share is seventy eight years old, which
is wild to me, Like, I still think of her
so young. I don't think of her as nearly eighteen
years old so young. Yeah, and Shar's partner is thirty eight.
Those are big differences for women to date down I'm.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Like, ah, get it, girl, I agree, and I disagree
because I still think that big age bracket relationships come
with a fair bit of stigma, and especially as well
on the flip side. I mean, we look at Leonardo DiCaprio.
There's all the memes around him being in his fifties
and dating nineteen year old girls, and just how kind
of questionable and congross it is. I mean, this study
isn't talking huge age gaps. It's just talking about that
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kind of more in between number. Like maybe it's a
female who's quite happy to date someone who's five years younger,
but they perceive their preferences being older because that's what
you know, you've been swayed.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
By what society tells you you should want.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
And the outcome of this and I thought it was
quite funny it said, this study proves what psychologists have
known for years that people suck at predicting what will
make them happy. So what you think is going to
make you happy actually could very well be something else.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
You think you know what you want, And that's why
it's so important in dating to date outside the box
as well. Like if you have been dating so many
times for the same kind of person, like for so
many years, you've got the same type, you're constantly going
for the same looks or the same jobs or occupations or
type of person, scrap that because chances are well, firstly,
shock it's not working if you're still on a dating now,
so that person is not working. But often you find
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the success when you go on a date with someone
that you never in a million years would have thought
that you was the person for you. And definitely don't
say no to someone just because they're younger. It was
weird on the weekend, my younger sister goes to me,
isn't it weird that you're marrying someone two years younger
than me? That moment, when she put it into perspective
like that, I was like, yeah, that's weird because you're
like my baby sister. Anyway, let's get out of here,
(17:48):
all right, guys.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Well that's it from us
Hi Heart podcasts, hear more Kiss podcast playlist and listen
live on the Free iHeart app A good pickup with
Britt Hockley and Laura Burn Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
What our windows down?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
That's my world, risen the dust, only good babs all round.
I don't much, but yeah I know I'll big get.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
And what I want.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
It don't matter. Where does this is the pickup?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Hi guys, it's the pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura Burn.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Now there's no confirmation, but there is speculation that Beyonce
could be coming to Australia on part of her tour.
I would, hands down go and see that in a heartbeat.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah, saying, hey, what about Katy Perry? Though she isn't
she You're gonna go see her?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
She just annoys me a little bit too much now
and I feel like it's interrupting my feelings about the music.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I am at a point now where I feel a
bit sorry for Katy Perry.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I think the.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Pylon is hard and swift, even if she does come
across a little bit insufferable, but she's still very harsh.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, it was pretty fast, wasn't It was like a
rocket The pylon get it. It's not funny. I thought
it was funny. No, But what I want to talk
about Beyonce, not the fact that I would go to
her concept. But I read this this morning and it
really pissed me off. People are slamming her and saying
like she's a failure and she's done and all of
this stuff because her concert didn't immediately sell out. And
(01:35):
there are some people that are selling tickets for like
twenty thirty dollars.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
So the resell on like the resell.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah, like some people like, hey, just here's a ticket.
It's cheap, and everyone's like comparing it to the same
price as a happy meal, And I'm like, this is Beyonce.
We love to see it, like this woman has been
at the top of her game for twenty years. We
love to wait for like the tiniest thing that we
can grasp onto because maybe she didn't sell out a
show for the first time.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
When you say resell value, does this turn It is
the people trying to scout tickets, so like people who
have bought lots of tickets, they do it at a
bet that it's going to sell out quickly and then
they can resell it for a higher value.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah, well I then assume that's what the twenty dollars resell. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I kind of think, well, if anything like sucks to
be them, like you deserve that, because it's so annoying
when you had these people who buy out so many
tickets and then try and resell it for more expensive
Like it's just such a shitty business plan.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I just was annoyed at the headlines trying to like
slam on a woman just because you know, she's just
won Album of the Year. The woman is not failing.
The woman is a billionaire. The woman has an amazing
family and a husband. And I just hate the fact
that we're like, yes, we knew what you suck. You're done, Like,
get a life. Anyway, if she comes here, I'm gonna
go see he for twenty bucks.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Well maybe I'm going to go and see Katie Perry
as well.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I actually yours.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I would like to go and see her. I'm not
against it, Okay, So no one's coming with me, right.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I want to talk to you today, Laura about AI
and teaching. Now. I know there's a lot of people
in the world that are scared that AI is going
to end up taking over and taking jobs because it's
sort of what it's doing, like it's putting a lot
of people out of work. And there are a lot
of people saying that AI is very close to out
smarting us as humans, like they don't need us anymore
to repro themselves. Now, that will be a scary day.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I mean, that doesn't surprise me though, Like, I mean,
they have the answers to everything since it is constantly
connected to the Internet.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Well, something very controversial is happening over in the UK.
So there is a college, a private school in London
called David Game College, and it is about to open
its first class of teacherless courses to twenty people. Now
it's done a trial with seven students. This is a
course that is going to be run almost one hundred
percent solely on AI robots. So the teacher is going
(03:39):
to be a robot that is programmed for them. They
will learn just with headsets. Like there's a photo here.
This is what the classroom's going to look like. Right,
you'll go to school, You'll put an AI headset on.
Looks like a virtual reality headset. Yeah, virtual reality, And
that's how it's going to be taught. There's going to
be three people like still real humans that are going
to be like helpers to the robot that will be
in the room to help with things like emotional support
(04:01):
and teach the things that the AI robot isn't good at. Now,
the things that the AI robot isn't good at is
like sex education and things like that, because I guess
robots don't have sex apparently, so they don't know how
to teach that. But I don't know how I feel
like I really did this deep dive into it. At
the start, when I heard that a robot could be
teaching the class, I was like, that is wild. I
(04:21):
would never want my kid to be taught by AI.
And then when I read a little bit more about it,
it definitely has some pros in it as well. So
like each child does its studies on a computer with
its headset, but they're not all the same. So the
computer and the AI will learn what that particular student
is excelling at and what they're not excelling at. Then
it tailors its course and its curriculum to push it
(04:45):
in so it becomes like an even playing field for everyone.
So if it sees that you're lacking in something, whether
that's maths or science or chemistry. It tailors its program
to your specific needs, and so there are parts of
it like that where I'm like, well, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
When I first saw this, when you said David Game College,
I just looked it up because I was like, oh,
it might be like a coding school, Like it might
be like David Game I don't know, like gamer.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I was like, maybe it's like a school for people
who who are who are gamers.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
It's just a normal private school. I think that most
parents would have an issue with this. I think that
that most people out there would feel as though, you know, look,
I understand that this might come into being a standard
in the future, but no one wants their kids to
be the guinea pigs of a new procedure. And that
would be the thing that I would be the most
concerned about, because AI, yes it's very smart, and yes
(05:32):
it can adapt to people's learning skills and everything else,
but it doesn't have empathy. It doesn't know how to
show emotional intelligence, it doesn't know how to cater to students'
very unique needs, and it also doesn't know how to
read how someone's feeling, like a kid could be feeling
panicked about the information that they're getting, or they could
be feeling stressed or have anxiety or whatever, and there's
no way for AI to pick up on those social cues.
(05:55):
So I think that this really only suits a very
specific type of learning, And what we've all learned from
going through school is that all kids learn differently, and
all kids need different support structures and support systems in place.
And I think that this goes backwards, not forwards.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
With that, I think we need to come to this
sort of acceptance and realization in the world that we
can't beat AI. AI is our future. It is going
to be integrated into all aspects of our life. And
I do think it's going to come into schools and
colleges around the world, but I don't think it should
ever come in one hundred percent, Like I think we
should be working alongside it. So maybe it's okay that
(06:31):
they've still got three support teachers in the classroom, and
maybe that's the part where the empathy comes in and
things like that.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
My other point to these is is, like I mean,
looking at this and looking at these kids sitting with
virtual reality goggles on.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
In a classroom.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
There's something really isolating about that, like they're not having
a combined learning experience.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I think so much learning, and I think.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
About this from a workplace as well, comes from the brainstorming.
It comes from the creativity of what other people think,
or the questions that other people have, because that question
might spark something that's of interest to you. You know,
it's a collaborative learning experience in a classroom, and this
makes learning very isolated and individual and I don't know
if that is actually socially a benefit to kids.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Well. The other thing that people are kicking off about,
and I think fair, is that per year per student,
this school costs thirty five thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
And now they've removed some teachers from the equation that
employ less people but still make the same amount of money.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Everyone's like, what, how an't you paying the robot? How
much you paying them? Is their salary more than the
average teacher, like thirty five thousand dollars per I.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Mean, look, I understand that it's something that we're not
going to be able to move away from in the future,
but I would not want my kids being the guinea
pig for this type of learning at all like, And
I think schools and teachers have such a huge responsibility
as it is, there is so much on them in
terms of what they have to provide. But I don't
think that this is the solution to that problem. I
think more support for teachers is the solution.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
It's also crazy. I think that one day our kids
will say to us, Oh my god, I can't believe
you were taught by like a human. That's so lame.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
But also like, why are we increasing screen time? Like
there's no there's so many refugere flags about this.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
The other week, if you guys will this, I told
a story about how the dummy Fairy came to our
house and she took my daughter, who is four years old, Lola,
her prize possession, and that was her five dummies that
she has had since literally the day she was born.
She loves these dummies more than she loves anything that's
ever existed.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, and we had to bring the dummy fairy in
because she's going to school next year, and there was
no other way for you to get rid of them.
So we're like, what can we do?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
In my defense, she wasn't supposed to be going to
school next year, we thought, we have another year of daycare,
but she's still four. Yeah, she's four, all right, Look
it's my faults. It was really hard because it's the
one thing that she just loved more than anything in
the world. And like any night that we'd ever done
without a dummy, she only has it to go to sleep,
and then we take it off her when she is asleep.
So it's just that transition period that any night that
(08:55):
we'd ever forgotten it, or we'd been at a hotel,
or she'd lost or anything like that, it was like, yeah,
I don't have anything to compare it to. I honestly
thought that getting rid of the dummies was going to
be the worst part of our parenting experience. But we
did the Dummy Fairy, and the Dummy Fairy came and
she brought a present, and you know, it was a
really exciting positive change. And I think Lola was the
(09:17):
one who was ready. She said, you know, I'm ready
for the Dummy Fairy and I'm ready to get rid
of them, and everything seemingly has been going great. I
even got on the show and talked about how cocky
I was that actually, the dummy Fairy is a genius.
Idea and yeah, look, I feel like I cracked the
code with it, with like the specific way of the.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Dummy fairy coming and visiting.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Why do I feel like this sounds too good to
be true?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
So over the long weekends that just passed, we went
away for a little weekend. I took my travel makeup
case with me. I don't unpack it very often. It's
got a lot of junk in it, but you know,
it's a good one to take with me because if
I lose it, I.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Don't really care.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
And we're in the bathroom and Lola was just going
through my makeup as she normally does, and then I
hear her go.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I was like, what's that? And I looked down and
there it is.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
You missed a dummy.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
We missed a dummy. One job, Laura, we missed one
hidden rogue dummy.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
This dummy is so fairal It has been floating around
the bottom of my makeup case probably for two years,
like that dummy is an infection waiting to happen. And
she picked it up and she created it in her
hands and instantly started rubbing it on her face and.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I was like, so I didn't go in the mouth.
She rubs it on.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
She rubs it on her face. Yeah, does she God? Yeah,
she rubs it on her cheek. She likes the feeling,
and then of course she puts it in her mouth.
But I got in there. I intercepted before it happened.
But it has completely derailed us. Okay, so now we're
like two months clear of the dummy Fairy, and now
every night she's like, but what about that one?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
So she's probably relapsed. She's had a relap, she's relapsed,
she's back in rehab, dummy rehab.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I do I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Does the dummy Fairy come again and take the next time?
Like she knows that it's there.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
No, stop pandering. You get some scissors and you cut it,
and you cut it in front of her. I've heard
people say it, that's so true. No, she's going to school,
she needs to loan. She's old enough. You cut dummy's
and then.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
You smack her And no, I'm joking.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Sorry, you expac people, we've all got trouble.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
You grew up in the eighties.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
You just say, look, now it doesn't work, it's broken,
and you also tell her that it's an infection. You're like, look,
how dirty. This is you will get so sick if
you have this. We have to cut it. Now, you
cut it. She sees that it's gone, none of this
dummy fairy anymore. She's gone to school. Life doesn't pander
to us. She needs to know that sometimes we make
hard decisions. I think, go hard with the dummy.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
If I was a child and I got to choose
whether I was like I had me, I'm not choosing
bread my child.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I tell you what they're not. No, they will be
doing just fine in life.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I agree. I agree.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Look, there are times when I do think that we
are too soft in our kids.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
But I also know that this.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Is like the one thing for Lola that's a very
big deal for her, and it's going to be bigger deals.
Don't get me wrong, Like I haven't given it to her.
I don't want anyone to think that I've caved. I've
stayed strong. But it's just it's been journey last couple
of days.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Why need to get something else to rub on a
face that feels nice? Serious? Like if it's like a
sensory thing, go as something else. It's not that she
can't put in a mouth.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
That's the problem.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
The problem we have now is is that anything she
picks up like it could be a hair elastic, it
could be a toy, a piece of lego. Anything she
picks up now straight in the mouth, she'll just put
it in her mouth and should chill on it. And
she never ever used to do that when she had
the dummy at nighttime. But I think it's because she's
just trying to find other things to sell South.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
So every time I look at her.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
She's put some choking hazard is gone into a mouth
that is hard.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah, all day I am on like choke watch.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I feel like this whole conversation, you'd be like, take
that back.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Do you know what, don't come to me for parenting advice.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
That's what we've established it. That's pretty much it.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Now we are talking dating age ranges, whether people like
to date down in age or date up in range.
Britt was spoken about this a little bit before, because
you you have gone on record and clearly don't mind
you're dating someone who's a bit younger than you.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Well, I'm marrying someone younger than me. That's true.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
You're engaged to someone who is a little bit younger
than you that you have no qualms in dating down
in terms of age. No, my fiance Ben is five
years younger than me, and me to the oldest age
gap though that you would date down for well, my
relationship before that was seven years and that's the biggest
that I've gone seven years down, and I before I
(13:27):
met him, I probably wouldn't have said I would have
gone that far in an age gap, Like in my head,
I probably would have said five would have been about it.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
But I don't know where I pulled that number from.
That's just come from this preconceived idea that men take
so much longer to mature, so like I wouldn't have
wanted to have that big gap. But having said that,
when I met my the seven year partner difference, he
was only twenty five at the time, so I was
in my thirties and twenty five sounds so young. But
I didn't notice it, so it didn't bother me. But
(13:55):
I just seemed to be attracted to young men.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Well, I think I would always have said that I
date older guys, like I would have said that would
have been my preference older men. Interestingly, though, is that
my husband is a year younger than me.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Which doesn't really well it's not a big deal.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
But sometimes our birthdays because there's like a couple of
months where they don't align. So there is a few
months in the year where I'm two years older than him,
he's two years younger than me.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
But like, I've never really thought about it.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
If I was going to have put my age range
in tender, I think I would have put my age
range as like my age and up. I don't think
I ever would have had that bracket as age down
at all.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Nah. You say that as someone that was on that
for like ten years. It goes to the radiuses is
because it gets in the age gaps as because it
gets it's like you end up casting that net far
and wide. Desperation.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
It's not come on, it's not desperation. No, no options open.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
No. It comes to the point for every woman listening
in the car right now that has been single and
on those date a.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Sixty year old, it would be fine. I got a
thirty year age GAP's okay.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I got to the point where it was like extend
range and it was like you cannot extend the range
any further. It was like five hour drive away, and
I feel like I will do it. I will meet
you halfway, I will go on a date with you.
But the stereotype definitely is and has always been that
men date down and women date now.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
The reason why we're talking about this is because, interestingly,
there's been a research study that's come out of the
University of California. They did a research study across four
thousand and five hundred blind dates, and what they found
is that often people think that they have a perceived
attraction to an age or they.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
You know, people think they have.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
A type, but when it actually comes from sitting across
from someone who it is that they're actually attracted to,
can be very, very different. And what the outcome of
this study found is that both men and women statistically
like to date younger So I think for so long
we've assumed that women would prefer to date older men,
(15:46):
But interestingly, this study is found that actually women as
well like to date younger men. Everyone wants someone who's
a little bit younger than me.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
It doesn't shock me. You know who has taken an
age gap really really far? Is Madonna?
Speaker 2 (16:00):
What's the game?
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Madonna is sixty six and her partner is twenty eight
and share so share is seventy eight years old, which
is wild to me, Like, I still think of her
so young. I don't think of her as nearly eighteen
years old so young. Yeah, and Shar's partner is thirty eight.
Those are big differences for women to date down I'm.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Like, ah, get it, girl, I agree, and I disagree
because I still think that big age bracket relationships come
with a fair bit of stigma, and especially as well
on the flip side. I mean, we look at Leonardo DiCaprio.
There's all the memes around him being in his fifties
and dating nineteen year old girls, and just how kind
of questionable and congross it is. I mean, this study
isn't talking huge age gaps. It's just talking about that
(16:39):
kind of more in between number. Like maybe it's a
female who's quite happy to date someone who's five years younger,
but they perceive their preferences being older because that's what
you know, you've been swayed.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
By what society tells you you should want.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
And the outcome of this and I thought it was
quite funny it said, this study proves what psychologists have
known for years that people suck at predicting what will
make them happy. So what you think is going to
make you happy actually could very well be something else.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
You think you know what you want, And that's why
it's so important in dating to date outside the box
as well. Like if you have been dating so many
times for the same kind of person, like for so
many years, you've got the same type, you're constantly going
for the same looks or the same jobs or occupations or
type of person, scrap that because chances are well, firstly,
shock it's not working if you're still on a dating now,
so that person is not working. But often you find
(17:26):
the success when you go on a date with someone
that you never in a million years would have thought
that you was the person for you. And definitely don't
say no to someone just because they're younger. It was
weird on the weekend, my younger sister goes to me,
isn't it weird that you're marrying someone two years younger
than me? That moment, when she put it into perspective
like that, I was like, yeah, that's weird because you're
like my baby sister. Anyway, let's get out of here,
(17:48):
all right, guys.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Well that's it from us
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