May 20, 2025 • 17 mins
A woman has gotten DIVORCED because ChatGPT told her that her husband was cheating, Producer Grace had a Facebook Marketplace Mishap and Britt & Laura weigh in on whether you should be allowed to choose your baby's gender.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
My Heart podcasts, hear more Kiss podcast playlist, and listen
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Laura Burn Radio. What our Windows down?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
That's my world?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Risen the dust only good fable down.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
I don't march, but yeah, I'm not our big get
and what I want it don't matter where.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
This is the Picker, Hi, guys, it's the pick Up
with Britt Harkley and Laura Burn.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
What's happening over there?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I just took a big mouth of the water and
you know when you swallow it down to aggressively and
the whole thing goes down like a ball.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
It's called a bowlless.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
What is that?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
A bowlss? It's like a like a ball of water
of fluid.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah, for something that shouldn't hurt. That was really painful.
If anyway, we're here, Britt, do you know what I
want to tell you about?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Please? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Something.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Episode of Love Triangle came out on the weekend. It
is so good, Like if you were someone who loves
maths and you're into the reality TV drama, you need
to get your ears and your eyes around Love Triangle.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
It's absolutely phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
More dramatic or less dramatic.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
To be fair, the finale episode was easily more dramatic
than this year's Maths.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Like spoiler because I want to ask a question to
everyone listening.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
There's a spoiler about to come. What happened?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Okay, so I will tell you. I will tell you
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
So Mike Gunner firstly, who was from Married at First Sight,
he gets called out spectacularly because they kind of do
like a reunion episode on Love Triangle and this feeling
very frantic trying to stay along with this because I'm
just so excited, I know. And then lastly, there was
one I.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Don't want to give it all away. I don't want
to give it all away.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
If there was the same sex thruple that happened on
this season.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
That they weren't expecting or that was set up from
the start.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Well, they all kind of thrupples right like they have
like in a relationship, and then another person gets brought
in to try and tempt them or see what the
dynamic is. But there was the same sex couple that
turned into like the three of them, and then something
happens right, which is you know, I'm not going to
tell you what happens if you haven't seen it. But
there is someone else, like old, like another person who
is included in all this.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
His name is Bernie.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Bernie turns out to be the biggest f boy you
could ever imagine. I sat there watching it and I
felt I don't know what I felt. I think it
was like this realization that I have dated a Bernie before.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I've probably dated many Bernie.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
So do you think Mike Gunner got saved by Bernie?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
One hundred percent? My Gunner came off like a saint.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
And then there's this Bernie guy, and he's the type
of guy that will tell you that he loves you,
that he's like has never thought about anyone as like
he thinks about you, that he'll do anything to be
with you. The second he gets you, he's like, oh,
I'm just not that into it.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Bernie's giving seventy seventy five.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
No, Bernie's Bernie doesn't. Bernie, I think is like in
his twenties.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
He doesn't scream like twenty year old f boy.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Honestly, though, it's exclusively on stand and it's now streaming.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
So go and watch it.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Okay, Chef's kiss, Well, you've sold me I'm absolutely gonna
watch it, Laura.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Have you heard of tassiography?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
No, Okay, I was hoping say that, like maybe I'll pretend,
but I know no one has so.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Tasteography is the idea of fortune telling around coffee beans
and tea leaves, like in the bottom of a cup.
There's people that absolutely swear by it. And there is
a Greek woman that has just ended a twelve year
marriage based on what was at the bottom of her cup.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Not only was it based off what was at.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
The bottom of her cup, it was coffee and it
wasn't a fortune teller. There's this new trend where you
take your tea leaves or your coffee leaves or whatever
and you put it into chat gpt and then chat
Gept interprets it's the modern day fortune teller.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
That yep, she did it. She took a photo. Here's
the photo of the bottom of her cup.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Then she put it into chat gpt fortune teller, and
chat GPT said, I see signs of infidelity, specifically that
there was a woman whose names started with E and
his woman was trying to destroy their marriage off the
back of that. This woman filed for divorce on her
twelve year marriage.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
How I wonder what the what the markers are for
different things, because like, obviously the way that chat gpt
works is that it picks up across the internet all
the different rules for something, so it's probably the most
accurate fortune teller. But also like, surely chat gpt has
a responsibility here.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Well, it goes off phone patterns, the saucer, this world
that's left. But what I did so you can use
wine sediment as well, But it was too early for us.
We don't drink at work, Laura. But I'm pregnant when
you ducked out earlier, I got our empty coffee cups,
gave it to producer Grace, and I got no grace
to put Yeah, I got Grace to put it into
the fortune teller of chat GPT. To decide the fate
(04:55):
of our relationships or our.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Life, you have to be pretty insecure in your relationship
or unhappy. Like to me, she didn't divorce this man
because of chat GPT. She clearly needed it out already,
like the writing was on the wall.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
She didn't.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I just have a happy marriage and one day be like, well, guys,
I gotta leave that lady with the name E and
the infidelity.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
I'm not actually married yet, but Grace tell me should
I get married? Should I call off the wedding?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Okay, so talk us through what happened here, Grace.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
All right, So I took a picture of BRIT's cup
first and pop that into chat JPT and here's what.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
They had to say.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
All right, let's spill the coffee beans. So first off,
this cup is doing a lot. It's like a dramatic
best friend who just found out their ex is dating
someone new.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Let's break it down all right. Now, wait, what about
love life?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Did not say anything about the fact that she's getting married.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Come on chat JPT.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
Down near the base of the cup, the deep emotional zone,
the patterns are more wavy and calm. That usually means
you're working through some pretty heavy emotional stuff, but you're
doing well.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Go Yre.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
There's also what looks like a little heart or a
bird on one side. Classic you need to talk about
your feelings symbol Either a meaningful conversation just happened, or
it seriously needs to Like your cup is low key
shipping you an honest communication covering a basis.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Isn't it like?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Either the conversations happened or it's going to I can't tell,
but you're doing great, sweetie.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
There's a conversation somewhere. This is ridiculous. All right, grace,
what's mine?
Speaker 7 (06:20):
All right?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Let's I'm in a happy marriage or everyone just so
you know, happy marriage.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Let the cup door married for two years together for
I don't even know how long. Who's counting three keiths?
Speaker 6 (06:30):
All right, let's get into cup number two, the sequel
nobody asked for, absolutely needed. This cup way more dramatic.
If your first one was whispering gentle truths, this one
is throwing open the windows and yelling we need to talk.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
We don't, We're fine. It's saying you're a crazier one. Well,
I don't know, am I?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Or is it just like my relationships on the rocks?
According to chat Jpta, All right, what about the love life?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
We need to know she's getting a divorce.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Here's where things get interesting. There's not much patterning in
the emotional bass, which can mean a few things. You're
keeping your feelings pretty locked down right now, but that strong,
single drip could also be you carrying someone else's emotions too.
There's a little ripple like symbol on the lower rate
that suggests communication or movement is coming. Maybe someone's going
(07:17):
to reach out, or maybe you've got something you need
to say. Either way, it's brewing. Literally he said everything
had nothing. Not a single thing was said. This is
my okay, this is.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
No.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
This is my thing against like fortune telling or against
like going and seeing psych.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I think this has got anything to do with fortune.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I understand, and I'm sure there are some people who
do it very well.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
In my experience, they say everything and nothing all at
the same time. I have never had an experience, and
I like putting it out there. If you're a great psychic,
come and like hit us up at the pickup.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I would love to have you on.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I have never had an experience that has resulted in
me being like, yes, absolutely, bang on, you are a
psychic and I'm here for your psych.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
And your I have but it wasn't on the internet,
it wasn't chat GPT how he's a real psychic. My
next door neighbor in Scotland, the older gay couple who
had spent his whole life being a psychic. He was
in play by like the Federal police to be a psydechic.
It was weird, but he was so wildly accurate.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Why don't we get him on the show and not
chat GPT he's in Scotland.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
You can't even understand him's accents.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Big.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
There is an etiquette when it comes to Facebook marketplace, right,
Like it's kind of an unspoken etiquette about how you
interact with the buyer and the seller and what you
do when you've got to pick the thing up from
their house and x y Z, Like I think most
people know how to be when it comes to basook
like a place.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
It's pretty annoying though, like how many conversations you have
about how much something is? Can you do a better price?
You talked to them for like where are you when's
a good time? Talked to them for three days about
picking up saying for twenty bucks and then they're like
not and then.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Then they got yeah, and you're like, what just waste
my line? We were talking about funny experiences that we'd
had off the back of it, because everyone's had like
a bit of a cooked experience if you've.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Used it enough times.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
I had something happened recently where I was I wasn't
even selling it. I was giving away a coffee table.
I was like just someone come and take this coffee
table off my hands. And this man came into my house.
I was there with the kids, Matt wasn't home. He
comes into the house. Forty five minutes later. He is
still in my house having a chat. Lovely English guy.
He's moving to Australia. Just give me his life story.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Maybe he's trying to make some new friends.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Maybe he was talking about his wife. His wife was
having a baby. Then he wanted to know about the dog.
And I was like, please just take the coffee table
and get out of my house.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I'll pay you to go.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I was like, I'll give you the twenty dollars to
lead anyway, I had to pretend like I needed to
go and have a shower and that the kids need
a nat.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
My kid's full. She doesn't ask. He's like, I'll watch
the kids. Want you shall.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
But there was one story that came up, Producer Grace
here she is, I don't think that anyone could top
the Facebook marketplace story that you had.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
There was a lot of trust that was put in you,
Yes there was.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
But my wife, Diana, she is the sort of person
that gets really into hobbies and just loves buying everything
before she's even had.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
To go at it.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
So a couple of weeks ago she was like, I
want to get really into surfing. Has never surfed in
her life, and she was like, this is my thing now.
So he organized this meet up to get this surfboard
off this book marketplace. The guy was like, you know what,
I'm actually out for the day, but I'm going to
pop it next to this table blah blah blah in
the garage. And I was like, great, We're sweet. We
drove an hour and a half there.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
How much was he ching surfboard in the garage?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Down south? Down South?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
But it was a good price, good price.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Surfboard looked good for beginners. We were like, were set,
and I was like, I will indulge you this once,
but this will be the last surfboard you're buying anyway.
So we get there, find the surfboard exactly where he said,
next to the table, and then we're like, Okay, it's
not going to fit in the car.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
We're going to have to rope it to the roof.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
So we're in the kind of mentality of if he
can't tie knots, tie lots, so we have like some
that's the saying continue. So we've tied it all down.
We're driving back on the freeway. We're like, we've nailed this,
but then the surfboard starts flapping.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
The wind that gets under surfboard.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
On the roof of your car.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
We're about to lose this surfboard that we've just purchased.
My wife's new hobby. Who's so excited about it. It's flapping,
it's flapping, and we're like heart thumping.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
You can't even.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Pull over because it's like a bit on a highway.
So we get home and we just made it. There's
like ropes flying everywhere, and we're like, this is so dangerous.
I cannot believe that we've made it back with this surfboard.
Take a picture of it to send it to the
guy and go, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
We just made it.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Was a bit, I don't know where this is going, he.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Sent back, that's not my surfboard.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
He just stole some we accidentally. We went into the garage.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
It was exactly where he said, but it was his
roommate's surfboard.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
You just stole someone's surfboard, so it was the right hand.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I thought, you get into the wrong house.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Yes, no, it was the roommate's surfboard, much fancier than
the one we were picking up.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
We were like, we've got to steal that is.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Did you have to drive it back?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Had to drive all the way back.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
We learned how to tie not its the second time around,
so at least the surfboard stayed.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Attached to the car.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I'm just imagining you're getting this surfboard that it's so
bad it after being tied to a couple of roof
racksy like, there it is, give me the other one.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
It's a trade up.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
When I stole that dog from the person's card, you
thought we were saving it.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
I thought it was lost and I took it from
the law and I was like, don't worry, sweet angel,
I'm gonna save you. I had to flick two days,
and it turns out when I finally contacted the owner,
he was so grateful. He was like, thank you so
much for being worried sick, and I was like, tell
me where you live, I'll drop it back.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
He gave me his address and I was like.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Pretty sure that's where I took it from. And I
was like you're welcome.
Speaker 7 (12:44):
Like it's crazy out there be careful, took the dog
back mortified.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
That's so good, Grace.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
When you first held me that story, I thought you'd
gone into the wrong house, but you didn't have a
choice returning it since you so evidently took the wrong one.
Now there is a debate that's erupting online at the moment,
and off the back of doing my gender reveal on
this show only a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I feel the timing is quite interesting. Now.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I understand that for some couples, gender disappointment is a
very very real thing, and wanting to be able to
choose whether you have a girl or a boy in
some instances ideally would be something that some parents would
like to explore. I know that when Matt found out
that he was having my husband a third baby girl,
there was a little bit of him that had a
(13:31):
moment of sadness, and we spoke about it on the show.
He's thrilled to be a dad to another girl, but
at the same time, I think he always expected that
he would also be a dad to a boy, and
that's not going to happen for him now unless he
does it with another woman at some point down the track.
But the reason why we're talking about this is because
there's a content creator.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Her name is Caitlin Bailey. She's a single mum.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
She's got three kids, two of them are boys, and
she has one girl.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Now.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
She's just paid forty five thousand dollars to go overseas
and do gender selection on an IVF treatment where you
can choose the gender of your unborn child. There's a
lot of moral debates surrounding this because it's something that's
currently still illegal in Australia.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Yea, And I think she was maybe a bit taken
aback about the pushback against it because she was pretty
open about her story talking about it, and I think
that the public's response has quite shocked her.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
She has said, if we've.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Got the technology that allows us to do this and
it's not hurting anybody, I don't understand why it's not
an option here in Australia because sex selection of your
embryos is illegal in Australia.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
It's not an option. You can't do it.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
You absolutely cannot choose to test which sex you want
and to implant it. But there are a lot of
countries overseas America you can do it. So this is
why she spend forty five thousand dollars to go and
do it. She feels like she needs to balance her family.
But the idea of her saying I don't understand why
it can't be done here, I do think she hasn't
thought about the broader issues surrounding this. And there have
(14:54):
been a few people off the back of this debate
that have made some really good points. There's no guarantee
that you might have a child assigned female at birth
who later identifies as trade totally, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I mean, there's other things in this as well.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Obviously, in some cultures having a bore is more desirable,
so it might create like an unequal gender population, which
would cause issues down the track. But also I mean,
as a mum of two little girls and I'm now
having a third little girl, even if I had the
opportunity to select the gender of my children, I wouldn't.
And the reason for that is is because I feel
(15:26):
as though it puts so much pressure on that child
to be the specific gender that you wanted. It puts
so much pressure on whatever you thought that relationship was
going to be, or that dynamic was going to be,
Like just because you have a little boy doesn't mean
they're going to be into little boy things, doesn't mean
they're going to be a little quote unquote traditional little boy,
and vice versa.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
The same for a girl.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
And I guess I come to it now as a
mum of two girls, both of which are completely different children,
Like both my girls are so so different, and so
I feel as though I've had two different experiences of
motherhood with them individually, because there's such their own little,
unique people that I don't feel as though I'm missing
out on something by not having a boy. I guess
(16:09):
the thing is in our in all cultures, really, gender
becomes something that people are so fixated on, and this
idea of having a balanced family, to think that you
have two little boys at home and a little girl
at home, that that's something you can't be happy with
because you don't have a balance, Like families aren't perfect.
And I kind of hate the way that the terminology
is being built.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Around this, To be honest, it doesn't bother me that
she's done it. What else I found interesting is off
the back of that, there's also discussions about the fact
that a lot of people think you shouldn't genetically test
your embryos. They think that well, they think that even
that comes down to like a type of selection, whereas
I will disagree with that. I have my own embryos
that I have genetically tested, and there's a reason for it.
(16:51):
I have had embryos that had things wrong with them
and couldn't and didn't survive, and if they were implanted
in me there would have been a danger to us
both and a high risk of miscarriage. So these kind
of things, genetically testing is just doing the best thing
for mother and child in the future and to reduce
help reduce things like a risk of me carriage.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
So I would like fight that argument.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I agree, but I think these are two different things.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Genetic testing is something that happens during pregnancy anyway. You know,
you have your I just had my twenty one week
morphology scans, you know, so I'm going to find out
if everything's tracking long fine. You have your NIPT scan
to make sure that your blood works and everything's fine,
And that's so that mums can have a greater control
over the life that they're going to live and also
over the quality of life that that child's going to have.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
But this conversation around gender and choosing a gender.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
That's not a disorder, that's not a chromosomal abnormality, that's
not something that's where the baby's not developing in the
way that it should.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
It's a family aesthetic choice.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
It's an aesthetic yeah, or it's an experience. Don't get
me wrong, I'm not outraged by it. I don't care
enough to be like jumping on the pylon of this.
I just think for me, if I had the choice,
I wouldn't explore it. I think it's a lot of
money to pay for something that's very specific that you
don't have control over anyway.
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Laura Burn Radio. What our Windows down?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
That's my world?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Risen the dust only good fable down.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
I don't march, but yeah, I'm not our big get
and what I want it don't matter where.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
This is the Picker, Hi, guys, it's the pick Up
with Britt Harkley and Laura Burn.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
What's happening over there?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I just took a big mouth of the water and
you know when you swallow it down to aggressively and
the whole thing goes down like a ball.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
It's called a bowlless.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
What is that?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
A bowlss? It's like a like a ball of water
of fluid.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah, for something that shouldn't hurt. That was really painful.
If anyway, we're here, Britt, do you know what I
want to tell you about?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Please? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Something.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Episode of Love Triangle came out on the weekend. It
is so good, Like if you were someone who loves
maths and you're into the reality TV drama, you need
to get your ears and your eyes around Love Triangle.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
It's absolutely phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
More dramatic or less dramatic.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
To be fair, the finale episode was easily more dramatic
than this year's Maths.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Like spoiler because I want to ask a question to
everyone listening.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
There's a spoiler about to come. What happened?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Okay, so I will tell you. I will tell you
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
So Mike Gunner firstly, who was from Married at First Sight,
he gets called out spectacularly because they kind of do
like a reunion episode on Love Triangle and this feeling
very frantic trying to stay along with this because I'm
just so excited, I know. And then lastly, there was
one I.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Don't want to give it all away. I don't want
to give it all away.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
If there was the same sex thruple that happened on
this season.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
That they weren't expecting or that was set up from
the start.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Well, they all kind of thrupples right like they have
like in a relationship, and then another person gets brought
in to try and tempt them or see what the
dynamic is. But there was the same sex couple that
turned into like the three of them, and then something
happens right, which is you know, I'm not going to
tell you what happens if you haven't seen it. But
there is someone else, like old, like another person who
is included in all this.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
His name is Bernie.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Bernie turns out to be the biggest f boy you
could ever imagine. I sat there watching it and I
felt I don't know what I felt. I think it
was like this realization that I have dated a Bernie before.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I've probably dated many Bernie.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
So do you think Mike Gunner got saved by Bernie?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
One hundred percent? My Gunner came off like a saint.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
And then there's this Bernie guy, and he's the type
of guy that will tell you that he loves you,
that he's like has never thought about anyone as like
he thinks about you, that he'll do anything to be
with you. The second he gets you, he's like, oh,
I'm just not that into it.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Bernie's giving seventy seventy five.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
No, Bernie's Bernie doesn't. Bernie, I think is like in
his twenties.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
He doesn't scream like twenty year old f boy.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Honestly, though, it's exclusively on stand and it's now streaming.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
So go and watch it.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Okay, Chef's kiss, Well, you've sold me I'm absolutely gonna
watch it, Laura.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Have you heard of tassiography?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
No, Okay, I was hoping say that, like maybe I'll pretend,
but I know no one has so.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Tasteography is the idea of fortune telling around coffee beans
and tea leaves, like in the bottom of a cup.
There's people that absolutely swear by it. And there is
a Greek woman that has just ended a twelve year
marriage based on what was at the bottom of her cup.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Not only was it based off what was at.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
The bottom of her cup, it was coffee and it
wasn't a fortune teller. There's this new trend where you
take your tea leaves or your coffee leaves or whatever
and you put it into chat gpt and then chat
Gept interprets it's the modern day fortune teller.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
That yep, she did it. She took a photo. Here's
the photo of the bottom of her cup.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Then she put it into chat gpt fortune teller, and
chat GPT said, I see signs of infidelity, specifically that
there was a woman whose names started with E and
his woman was trying to destroy their marriage off the
back of that. This woman filed for divorce on her
twelve year marriage.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
How I wonder what the what the markers are for
different things, because like, obviously the way that chat gpt
works is that it picks up across the internet all
the different rules for something, so it's probably the most
accurate fortune teller. But also like, surely chat gpt has
a responsibility here.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Well, it goes off phone patterns, the saucer, this world
that's left. But what I did so you can use
wine sediment as well, But it was too early for us.
We don't drink at work, Laura. But I'm pregnant when
you ducked out earlier, I got our empty coffee cups,
gave it to producer Grace, and I got no grace
to put Yeah, I got Grace to put it into
the fortune teller of chat GPT. To decide the fate
(04:55):
of our relationships or our.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Life, you have to be pretty insecure in your relationship
or unhappy. Like to me, she didn't divorce this man
because of chat GPT. She clearly needed it out already,
like the writing was on the wall.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
She didn't.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I just have a happy marriage and one day be like, well, guys,
I gotta leave that lady with the name E and
the infidelity.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
I'm not actually married yet, but Grace tell me should
I get married? Should I call off the wedding?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Okay, so talk us through what happened here, Grace.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
All right, So I took a picture of BRIT's cup
first and pop that into chat JPT and here's what.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
They had to say.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
All right, let's spill the coffee beans. So first off,
this cup is doing a lot. It's like a dramatic
best friend who just found out their ex is dating
someone new.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Let's break it down all right. Now, wait, what about
love life?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Did not say anything about the fact that she's getting married.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Come on chat JPT.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
Down near the base of the cup, the deep emotional zone,
the patterns are more wavy and calm. That usually means
you're working through some pretty heavy emotional stuff, but you're
doing well.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Go Yre.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
There's also what looks like a little heart or a
bird on one side. Classic you need to talk about
your feelings symbol Either a meaningful conversation just happened, or
it seriously needs to Like your cup is low key
shipping you an honest communication covering a basis.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Isn't it like?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Either the conversations happened or it's going to I can't tell,
but you're doing great, sweetie.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
There's a conversation somewhere. This is ridiculous. All right, grace,
what's mine?
Speaker 7 (06:20):
All right?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Let's I'm in a happy marriage or everyone just so
you know, happy marriage.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Let the cup door married for two years together for
I don't even know how long. Who's counting three keiths?
Speaker 6 (06:30):
All right, let's get into cup number two, the sequel
nobody asked for, absolutely needed. This cup way more dramatic.
If your first one was whispering gentle truths, this one
is throwing open the windows and yelling we need to talk.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
We don't, We're fine. It's saying you're a crazier one. Well,
I don't know, am I?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Or is it just like my relationships on the rocks?
According to chat Jpta, All right, what about the love life?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
We need to know she's getting a divorce.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Here's where things get interesting. There's not much patterning in
the emotional bass, which can mean a few things. You're
keeping your feelings pretty locked down right now, but that strong,
single drip could also be you carrying someone else's emotions too.
There's a little ripple like symbol on the lower rate
that suggests communication or movement is coming. Maybe someone's going
(07:17):
to reach out, or maybe you've got something you need
to say. Either way, it's brewing. Literally he said everything
had nothing. Not a single thing was said. This is
my okay, this is.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
No.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
This is my thing against like fortune telling or against
like going and seeing psych.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I think this has got anything to do with fortune.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I understand, and I'm sure there are some people who
do it very well.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
In my experience, they say everything and nothing all at
the same time. I have never had an experience, and
I like putting it out there. If you're a great psychic,
come and like hit us up at the pickup.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I would love to have you on.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I have never had an experience that has resulted in
me being like, yes, absolutely, bang on, you are a
psychic and I'm here for your psych.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
And your I have but it wasn't on the internet,
it wasn't chat GPT how he's a real psychic. My
next door neighbor in Scotland, the older gay couple who
had spent his whole life being a psychic. He was
in play by like the Federal police to be a psydechic.
It was weird, but he was so wildly accurate.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Why don't we get him on the show and not
chat GPT he's in Scotland.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
You can't even understand him's accents.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Big.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
There is an etiquette when it comes to Facebook marketplace, right,
Like it's kind of an unspoken etiquette about how you
interact with the buyer and the seller and what you
do when you've got to pick the thing up from
their house and x y Z, Like I think most
people know how to be when it comes to basook
like a place.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
It's pretty annoying though, like how many conversations you have
about how much something is? Can you do a better price?
You talked to them for like where are you when's
a good time? Talked to them for three days about
picking up saying for twenty bucks and then they're like
not and then.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Then they got yeah, and you're like, what just waste
my line? We were talking about funny experiences that we'd
had off the back of it, because everyone's had like
a bit of a cooked experience if you've.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Used it enough times.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
I had something happened recently where I was I wasn't
even selling it. I was giving away a coffee table.
I was like just someone come and take this coffee
table off my hands. And this man came into my house.
I was there with the kids, Matt wasn't home. He
comes into the house. Forty five minutes later. He is
still in my house having a chat. Lovely English guy.
He's moving to Australia. Just give me his life story.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Maybe he's trying to make some new friends.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Maybe he was talking about his wife. His wife was
having a baby. Then he wanted to know about the dog.
And I was like, please just take the coffee table
and get out of my house.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I'll pay you to go.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I was like, I'll give you the twenty dollars to
lead anyway, I had to pretend like I needed to
go and have a shower and that the kids need
a nat.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
My kid's full. She doesn't ask. He's like, I'll watch
the kids. Want you shall.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
But there was one story that came up, Producer Grace
here she is, I don't think that anyone could top
the Facebook marketplace story that you had.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
There was a lot of trust that was put in you,
Yes there was.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
But my wife, Diana, she is the sort of person
that gets really into hobbies and just loves buying everything
before she's even had.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
To go at it.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
So a couple of weeks ago she was like, I
want to get really into surfing. Has never surfed in
her life, and she was like, this is my thing now.
So he organized this meet up to get this surfboard
off this book marketplace. The guy was like, you know what,
I'm actually out for the day, but I'm going to
pop it next to this table blah blah blah in
the garage. And I was like, great, We're sweet. We
drove an hour and a half there.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
How much was he ching surfboard in the garage?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Down south? Down South?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
But it was a good price, good price.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Surfboard looked good for beginners. We were like, were set,
and I was like, I will indulge you this once,
but this will be the last surfboard you're buying anyway.
So we get there, find the surfboard exactly where he said,
next to the table, and then we're like, Okay, it's
not going to fit in the car.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
We're going to have to rope it to the roof.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
So we're in the kind of mentality of if he
can't tie knots, tie lots, so we have like some
that's the saying continue. So we've tied it all down.
We're driving back on the freeway. We're like, we've nailed this,
but then the surfboard starts flapping.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
The wind that gets under surfboard.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
On the roof of your car.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
We're about to lose this surfboard that we've just purchased.
My wife's new hobby. Who's so excited about it. It's flapping,
it's flapping, and we're like heart thumping.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
You can't even.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Pull over because it's like a bit on a highway.
So we get home and we just made it. There's
like ropes flying everywhere, and we're like, this is so dangerous.
I cannot believe that we've made it back with this surfboard.
Take a picture of it to send it to the
guy and go, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
We just made it.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Was a bit, I don't know where this is going, he.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Sent back, that's not my surfboard.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
He just stole some we accidentally. We went into the garage.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
It was exactly where he said, but it was his
roommate's surfboard.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
You just stole someone's surfboard, so it was the right hand.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I thought, you get into the wrong house.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Yes, no, it was the roommate's surfboard, much fancier than
the one we were picking up.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
We were like, we've got to steal that is.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Did you have to drive it back?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Had to drive all the way back.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
We learned how to tie not its the second time around,
so at least the surfboard stayed.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Attached to the car.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I'm just imagining you're getting this surfboard that it's so
bad it after being tied to a couple of roof
racksy like, there it is, give me the other one.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
It's a trade up.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
When I stole that dog from the person's card, you
thought we were saving it.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
I thought it was lost and I took it from
the law and I was like, don't worry, sweet angel,
I'm gonna save you. I had to flick two days,
and it turns out when I finally contacted the owner,
he was so grateful. He was like, thank you so
much for being worried sick, and I was like, tell
me where you live, I'll drop it back.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
He gave me his address and I was like.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Pretty sure that's where I took it from. And I
was like you're welcome.
Speaker 7 (12:44):
Like it's crazy out there be careful, took the dog
back mortified.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
That's so good, Grace.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
When you first held me that story, I thought you'd
gone into the wrong house, but you didn't have a
choice returning it since you so evidently took the wrong one.
Now there is a debate that's erupting online at the moment,
and off the back of doing my gender reveal on
this show only a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I feel the timing is quite interesting. Now.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I understand that for some couples, gender disappointment is a
very very real thing, and wanting to be able to
choose whether you have a girl or a boy in
some instances ideally would be something that some parents would
like to explore. I know that when Matt found out
that he was having my husband a third baby girl,
there was a little bit of him that had a
(13:31):
moment of sadness, and we spoke about it on the show.
He's thrilled to be a dad to another girl, but
at the same time, I think he always expected that
he would also be a dad to a boy, and
that's not going to happen for him now unless he
does it with another woman at some point down the track.
But the reason why we're talking about this is because
there's a content creator.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Her name is Caitlin Bailey. She's a single mum.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
She's got three kids, two of them are boys, and
she has one girl.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Now.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
She's just paid forty five thousand dollars to go overseas
and do gender selection on an IVF treatment where you
can choose the gender of your unborn child. There's a
lot of moral debates surrounding this because it's something that's
currently still illegal in Australia.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Yea, And I think she was maybe a bit taken
aback about the pushback against it because she was pretty
open about her story talking about it, and I think
that the public's response has quite shocked her.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
She has said, if we've.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Got the technology that allows us to do this and
it's not hurting anybody, I don't understand why it's not
an option here in Australia because sex selection of your
embryos is illegal in Australia.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
It's not an option. You can't do it.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
You absolutely cannot choose to test which sex you want
and to implant it. But there are a lot of
countries overseas America you can do it. So this is
why she spend forty five thousand dollars to go and
do it. She feels like she needs to balance her family.
But the idea of her saying I don't understand why
it can't be done here, I do think she hasn't
thought about the broader issues surrounding this. And there have
(14:54):
been a few people off the back of this debate
that have made some really good points. There's no guarantee
that you might have a child assigned female at birth
who later identifies as trade totally, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I mean, there's other things in this as well.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Obviously, in some cultures having a bore is more desirable,
so it might create like an unequal gender population, which
would cause issues down the track. But also I mean,
as a mum of two little girls and I'm now
having a third little girl, even if I had the
opportunity to select the gender of my children, I wouldn't.
And the reason for that is is because I feel
(15:26):
as though it puts so much pressure on that child
to be the specific gender that you wanted. It puts
so much pressure on whatever you thought that relationship was
going to be, or that dynamic was going to be,
Like just because you have a little boy doesn't mean
they're going to be into little boy things, doesn't mean
they're going to be a little quote unquote traditional little boy,
and vice versa.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
The same for a girl.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
And I guess I come to it now as a
mum of two girls, both of which are completely different children,
Like both my girls are so so different, and so
I feel as though I've had two different experiences of
motherhood with them individually, because there's such their own little,
unique people that I don't feel as though I'm missing
out on something by not having a boy. I guess
(16:09):
the thing is in our in all cultures, really, gender
becomes something that people are so fixated on, and this
idea of having a balanced family, to think that you
have two little boys at home and a little girl
at home, that that's something you can't be happy with
because you don't have a balance, Like families aren't perfect.
And I kind of hate the way that the terminology
is being built.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Around this, To be honest, it doesn't bother me that
she's done it. What else I found interesting is off
the back of that, there's also discussions about the fact
that a lot of people think you shouldn't genetically test
your embryos. They think that well, they think that even
that comes down to like a type of selection, whereas
I will disagree with that. I have my own embryos
that I have genetically tested, and there's a reason for it.
(16:51):
I have had embryos that had things wrong with them
and couldn't and didn't survive, and if they were implanted
in me there would have been a danger to us
both and a high risk of miscarriage. So these kind
of things, genetically testing is just doing the best thing
for mother and child in the future and to reduce
help reduce things like a risk of me carriage.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
So I would like fight that argument.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I agree, but I think these are two different things.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Genetic testing is something that happens during pregnancy anyway. You know,
you have your I just had my twenty one week
morphology scans, you know, so I'm going to find out
if everything's tracking long fine. You have your NIPT scan
to make sure that your blood works and everything's fine,
And that's so that mums can have a greater control
over the life that they're going to live and also
over the quality of life that that child's going to have.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
But this conversation around gender and choosing a gender.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
That's not a disorder, that's not a chromosomal abnormality, that's
not something that's where the baby's not developing in the
way that it should.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
It's a family aesthetic choice.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
It's an aesthetic yeah, or it's an experience. Don't get
me wrong, I'm not outraged by it. I don't care
enough to be like jumping on the pylon of this.
I just think for me, if I had the choice,
I wouldn't explore it. I think it's a lot of
money to pay for something that's very specific that you
don't have control over anyway.
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