May 27, 2025 • 19 mins
A mum has sparked debate after dealing with a 'poonami' in a very unusual way, we want to know what you accidentally said to your boss, and 5 Questions to take your small talk into big talk
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Good pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura Ben Bady.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Your work, our windows done, that's my world. Rison the
dust only good fabs all down. I've done much.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Now, but yeah, I know I'll.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Big get and what I want. It don't matter where.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
This is the pickup. Hi guys, welcome back to the Pickup.
It's Britt Hockey and Laura Burn and I am.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Making great progress. Laura with my wedding planning, thrilled what's
happened now? It's actually it's actually so funny.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I feel like I need to start these conversations with
how much I love my fiance and I can't wait
to marry.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Him, because I know a lot of the convos I've had.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Surrounding wedding planning and my fiancee Ben have been around
the fact that he hasn't been a great planner.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
This is exactly the type of caveat that mums put
out there when they're like, I love my child, but
being a parent sucks.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, exactly, but it's so rewarding.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, it's exactly that conversation.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
So patronizing is your husband.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
No.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I am very excited to marry Ben.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
But it's been an interesting journey with the planning that
he hasn't been overly involved in, but the things that
have excited him have been very interesting. So one of
his caveats for the wedding, the very first thing that
we ever spoke about over a year ago.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Was that he really wanted an ice cream cart at
the wedding. That was it.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
It wasn't the location, it wasn't inside or outside, it
wasn't where what country, It was just can we have
an ice cream?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I remember you sitting down and you were like, hey, honey,
what are your man trees for the wedding? And he
thought about it really, like really seriously. He took the
question absolutely to heart. And then he stopped down and
he said, I just think we need to have sorbet, Like, yeah,
that's it. And then did you have a moment where
you were like, am I marrying a giant child?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
It was sort of where I knew he was actual.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I was like, he's my penguin anyway, So Amelia, I
went planner from Easy Weddings. We're in a group chat
just me, Ben and Amelia, and I am the one
that's always deep in there doing everything. So I saw
some messages flying around last night and I noticed it
was about the ice cream. So I checked out a bit.
I was like, Oh, this is Ben's wheel his wheelhouse,
he's got this cupboard. I checked back in a bit
(02:24):
later and Amelia had asked Ben, Ben, the time has come,
send through your ice cream picks for the ice Cream
Crew top list. Yeah. Anyway, I see Ben sending through
something that I see Amelia right back and say, oh,
oh sorry, Ben, you need to just rephrase that you're
only allowed eight ice creams. I was like, I said, sorry, Amelia,
how many ice creams did Ben's pick?
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Sixteen ice creams?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
He wanted sixteen different ice cream.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Flavors in one tiny cart at our wedding.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Let the man live, Brittany.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
What are you going to do with soft china? Cont
Do you know what the thing was?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
He goes, Babe, how am I going to cut this down?
And I was like, okay, well, let's go through this.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
There's five different flavors of caramel, five salted caramel.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Peanut butter caramel.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I was like, Babe, let's cut the caramel.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
You're all say, like, then, if I've been able to
make every other decision, I'm sure you can cut the
ice crew down to five. Now, Britt, I want to
talk about something that I feel like most parents have
been faced with at one point in another, and.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
That is the poon armi. The poon armi with no tools.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
If you have little kids and you've forgotten a nappy,
or you've forgotten wives, or it's been explosive and you've
forgotten a change of clothes, everyone has had to deal
with something going very wrong and having to come up
with a quick and fast and hard solution.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Okay, what is this one of your kids? They're not
in nappies anymore, are they.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
No, I've got a five year old, four year old.
It's been a long time since we've dealt with a
poon army.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
This is off the back.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
There's a woman who's going viral online because she has
shared what seemingly is quite a resourceful solution to a
poon army that she experienced.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
However, the whole city is the full.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Situation sounds like an absolute disaster if you ask me so.
They're on an international flight, it is three thirty in
the morning, and she has realized that she didn't pack
span now for her one and a half year old,
This little kid looks.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Like on an overnight flight.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
On an overnight imagine waking up at three thirty in
the morning to a turd and being like, oh God,
here we go, here we go, Code brown everyone. So
what she did is she didn't have a nappy. She
had wipes, but she had panty liners like her own
panty liners. So she slid a panty liner into the nappy.
(04:33):
I'm guessing to try and absorb as much of the
excess fluid and everything else as possible.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
No, which you know what I heard about.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Like, I read this and I was like, I guess
it would kind of work, but I'm left with a
lot of questions.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I feel very sorry for her because I can't imagine.
I have not been in that position. But I would
imagine on a flight, like an overseas overnight flight, there
are a lot of people on there.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
There is guaranteed to be other families with kids.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I'd be patrolling those aisles until I found like another
mum and begging for a nappy.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
That's what I'd be doing.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
You know what that is that is spoken like a
true dog mum who's gotten to the dog park and
didn't have a bag. That is a true dog mum response,
because I didn't even clock that one.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I would That seems like the most obvious solution.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Do you know why?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Because I think if you went and asked someone else
for a nappy, the judgment of like, why didn't you
pack enough nappies? Like I just wouldn't even think to
ask someone for a nappy.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I wouldn't you just say, hey, they've pood wait more
than I would have thought. That's also what dog people say,
so when like your dog is poody, you've run out
of back like sorry that they usually do one, they've
done like.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Four, But realistically you just left with one rogue bag.
And I was it. I will never forget.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I was on a flight and it was it was
an international flight, but it was a day flight.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
We're going to Balley and you know that's a six
hour flight.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
And the family that was sitting directly in front of
me had a little baby, and I also had my
kids with me, so like we were surrounded by kids
and their little daughter. I think she must have been
about maybe two, so that's not like baby baby, like
two is that's that is full blown toddler territory, and
everyone could smell that someone had pooed their pants, like
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it was very evident in the whole of that area
of the seating, and so everyone was kind of quietly
being like, oh, who is And I sniffed both my
kids and I was like, my kids, it's not me,
it's the you know, I'm not responsible for this anyway.
Ten minutes later, the family in front, she just lays
the little girl down on the seat and uses the
seat that's right next to her as the change table
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to change the nappy, like starts fully changing the nappy
in the middle of her.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Is that like a no, go? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
No, you have to take them to the toilet and
use their fold out change it. I think it's okay
to change a nappy in lots of places, like I'm
a change nappy on the go kind of goal, but
absolutely not in a packed flight where every single other
person has to sit there and smell your kid like
that's to me that was writ.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Them down on someone's lap.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Nah. No, absolutely not anyway, so much so that the
air flight hostess came over and she was like, I'm
really sorry, but you cannot do that there you have
to go to the toilet, like, yeah, that's fair, She
looked horrified.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Also, the walk of shame, like when you've got to
then stand up with a stinky baby and everyone's like, oh,
you're already because you're like you've already stunk out the cabin,
and then you got to walk a shame like the
next pits.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
The smell's got nowhere to go. It's got nowhere to go.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
We heard packing nappies and go to the toilet.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
I do feel sorry for it, because, like I said,
I've been.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Caught out before, and you really have to get resourceful,
like you really have to think about like what is
it that I can use? Do you water it down
there with some toilet paper? Like what do you do
to try and save your kid from a from a
nappyless punami situation?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
For give me for taking this side step, but this
is where my brain has gone.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
When you just said being resourceful.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I do remember a time that you did a poop,
So what yeah you, Laura, you did a poop and
you Oh.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
This is really taking a side step, and I don't
know if you need to talk about this on radio.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah, you already spoke about it on radio. You've just
reminded me. You already forget that. You outed yourself.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
You did a poop and you there was any toilet paper,
so you went into your handbag and you found one
of the girl's socks.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Yeah, that was That was a low point in my life.
That was a low point.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
About talking about being resourceful. You've got to do what
you've gotta do.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Yeah, when when you're on the go.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I was reading this Reddit thread Laura. That gave me
a bit of a chuckle, and it reminded me of
a couple of things I've done.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
In the past and something that I've heard you throw
around a little bit.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Okah, what have I done?
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Now?
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Well, this could go.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Either way, but this woman was talking about this awkward
encounter she had with her boss and the way she
signed off a phone call.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
So this is her thread.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I accidentally said I love you at the end of
a call with an important client yesterday. I heard him
giggle as I hung up, and I was absolutely mortified.
Today I received an email from him. Now, imagine the
fact that you've had this awkward moment you said I
love you to someone. You absolutely shouldn't and then you
see an email pop up you're like.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Don't do you not just like hit that one on
the head and be like, sorry, that was I don't
actually love you?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Is that I don't love you?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Actually don't have feelings for you? Like, no, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I think it's better that you don't try to pretend
it didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah, so this is the email.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Hey, Sarah, just wanted to say that I didn't mean
to laugh at you when you accidentally signed off on
our call with I love you.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
He was just worried about getting in trouble from HH.
He's like, oh God, here we go. Now someone's gonna complain.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I just found it funny because I've definitely done that before,
and I know it happens. I'm glad you have enough
love in your life that the response comes naturally.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
If anything, you should be proud of that smiley face.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Have a great weekend, and we'll follow up about my
call with Chris on Wednesday as discussed, no I love
you sign off. Would you want that response or would
you want just like to pretend it didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
I've done some doozies. Actually, just the other day, our
radio boss Tony walked into the office. We're having a chat,
and then I caught him honey by accident, and we
just steamrolled like it wasn't even a thing.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
He didn't even notice. Thanks honey.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Oh he noticed.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
He looked at me and winked.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Ill.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I was I must have been in that moment. I
was in the room, and I did just be really uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I'm a words of affirmation kind of person, like I'm
an endearing term.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Everyone's honey or darling or something.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
I did it didn't mean to it was not intentional.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Also, no offense, Tony. If you're listening, Tony doesn't give honey.
He's not a honey.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
He's gonna hate that, poor Tony. Tony could be a
honey to someone you're not.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
You do you know what I'm really guilty of and
I probably have to work on it. I throw kisses
around day, mean nothing, like they don't though what they
do to me. But whoever I'm emailing, it doesn't matter
whether it's like the finance guy or the boss or
it's it's a client.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
I just throwing kisses and I'm like, I don't know
if you can do that.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I have one other example. There's many of them, but
this one just lives rent free in my mind. So, like,
I run another business where I was talking to a
client of mine and she had wanted to get a
piece of jewelry made specifically for her mom for Mother's Day.
It was a custom piece, and like, I'd not been
on comms at all. My sister, who's my business partner,
had been managing it. And I just chimed in because
I was like, Hi, so lovely, he's so excited, And
(11:02):
I signed off with have a lovely Mother's Day with
your bum scent. Oh my god, I have a great
time with your bum anyway.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
So she wrote that obviously she could between the lines,
but that's a typo.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
It does rhyme with mum and these two letters that
they shares the word.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I know, but really sometimes the autocorrect does you dirty,
because there's not it's not an incorrect spelling. But you
would think that AI would be intelligent enough by now
that it would go you've said mother's day, you probably don't.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Want to refer to your butt.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
So no, because a lot of it's going to guess
that this is a mum, or like what are you
doing on your mother's Everyone needs to enjoy themselves in
different ways, don't they?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
But play on Monday? All right, Hey, the lines are
going off. We've got Sarah on the phone. Hey Sarah, what.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Did you accidentally do to your boss?
Speaker 5 (11:46):
As I was leaving, I blew her a kiss?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Well, okay, so it's a female. We've got that, and
so you.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Want some contact, Yes, we do.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
So.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
I'm a disability support worker and it's not unusual for
when I leave for my client to blow me a kiss,
but this particular day she didn't, and I it wasn't
her though. I walked outside of her bedroom and her
parents were there, and I blew them kisses as I.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Like, man, you're just giving these kisses out left arn Zetnah,
who does it?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I'd be offended if I didn't get a kiss. Yeah,
bless you. I feel like you can get away with it.
Do you say anything alfterwards?
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Did you just leave it? Just walk away?
Speaker 5 (12:35):
I didn't say anything to them. I just walked out
the door and I got out there and I just died,
and I thought, Oh, there's no way that they haven't
just turned to each other and gone, what the hell?
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Just happened.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Oh you're just a loving, caring person. Good on you.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Thanks, thank you.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Hey, Kasha, what did you accidentally say to your boss?
Speaker 6 (12:55):
I accidentally sent my boss a message saying she's being
an absolute sea bomb today, accidentally sin that.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I feel like this pretty well thought out.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
I was sending it to one of the girls that
wasn't at work, and.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
No, did she have her emails forward it? Or did
you actually just see ce in your boss?
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Just so?
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Can you get the memo?
Speaker 6 (13:19):
It was a text message, so I sent it straight
to her.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Oh, oh my god, you were doing the old like
when you're thinking of someone so you go and text
typing that message instead?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Oh did she write back? Are you fired?
Speaker 6 (13:31):
She pulled me into her office and yeah. I try
to tell her that it was an accident and though
it was actually aimed towards a friend called Tracy, but
she was on me. She wasn't impressed at all.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
So, oh my god, Oh, thank you so much. I'm
glad you're still there.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Thank you, Thanks Casha.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Now, okay, Britt, how do you feel about small talk
in general? Small talk makes me feel uncomfortable because I
always wonder where am I going to take it?
Speaker 4 (14:03):
And then I feel like I'm on the spot.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I could small talk my way out of anything. I
don't love it, I don't get anything from it. I'd
rather avoid it, but it doesn't make me uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
The problem is this, Sometimes I think that I become
the interviewer in a small talk situation where I always
I just keep asking questions, asking questions, asking questions, and
then eventually I run out of questions to ask and
waiting for the conversation to.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Circle back around. But it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
So I try and avoid it because and when I
say avoid it, you can never avoid small talk. I
try and avoid situations that put me into making small
talk because I find it uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Yeah, well, I.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Mean no one loves it, no one. There is no
one that's like, oh, can't wait to go small talk tonight.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Like, but some people maybe don't really know how to
avoid it or how to like escalate it to a
medium talk or Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
But also some people are like super extroverted and so
like they don't even quote unquote, making small talk doesn't
touch the sides for them.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
I think I'm a hybrid.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I definitely would call myself an extrovert in some things.
But when it's new people and new environments, I'm quite
happy to take the back seat if someone else is
wanting to step into that.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I've never seen you take the back seat anywhere anywhere.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
It's not what it is, no, But I don't enjoy
it at all. Like I do really feel like it
is a task to make small talk and to keep
the conversation going. But sometimes I feel as though I
have to. And sometimes I also maybe this is in
my own insecurities. I think as though it's almost expected
because we work in a role where we talk all
the time, so people are like, oh, well, Laura can
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do this, and so I feel as though I walk
into some of those environments where it's like new people
or it's a work thing, and I'm like, I'm on
and I'm singing and dancing, and I go home and
a crash because I'm so overstimulated by having to like
put on a show.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Well. The reason why I want to bring this up
is because firstly, I think a lot of people like
struggle to get conversations out of the small talk conversation
purgatory and into something that feels a little bit more
meaty or it feels like it's a back and forth.
But there is a guy named Charles Jewick. Now he's
a Politzer Prisman. He's also coined a super communicator. We
(16:04):
recently interviewed him on our podcast Life on Cut podcast.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
He's brilliant. If you want to communicator, if you want
to learn a little bit.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
About communicating, that is the episode to go and listen to.
But I actually found an article that he has been
quoted in and it was talking about how to get
deeper on a first date. Now I found this so
funny because some of these questions, they've called them magical questions,
magical questions that take small talk to deep talk.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
If someone asked me.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
These questions on a first date, I think I'd have
to up and leave.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
So this article isn't just about generally taking chat to.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
The next level, you know what dates only.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
It doesn't just have to be first dates.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
But is that where he is saying it's first dates only?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
It was about how to connect on a deeper level.
But it was with people that you would be making
small talk with. Right, So imagine going to a work party,
you're making small talk, first date small talk. You're just
in the getting to know each other phase and then
someone throws out one of these questions. I'm going to
ask you what a coin to the five Magical questions,
and you can answer them as honestly or you can
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tell me where to go.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
All right?
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Question number one, what are you excited it about right now?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
My wedding?
Speaker 4 (17:11):
That's actually a good one because someone could get into
more debt. What about your wedding?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I'm actually I'm not getting married for On my first date,
I was like.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Yeah, Number two, if you could wake up tomorrow having
gained any one quality or.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Ability, what would it be to be able to fly?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Great?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Okay, but that doesn't feel particularly deep.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
He's take my answers.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Don't ask me a question, then tell me my answer
is wrong.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
What is it about flying? Okay?
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Number three, imagine someone who you don't know asking you this,
when's the last time you cried in front of another person?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
I think that's a good question.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I mean I cry all the time on the podcast
in front of loads of people, like all the interviews
that we do.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
You and I cry in front of each other all
the time.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Are you true? This is true? We do, But I
mean like a real cry, like a oh my dog.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
I cry a lot in front of my dog, and
then I say, don't.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Tell anyone, Okay, I won't critique your answer. Question number four,
do you have a secret hunch about where or how.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
You will die? Can we just stop down?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
This could be someone at a work party asking you these,
and these feel deeply inappropriate.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
All the questions until now are fine.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Asking someone about their like impending death is not okay
when you don't even know that.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Okay, Well, this one's gonna really send you into out
of space. How do you feel about your relationship with
your mother?
Speaker 3 (18:30):
I love my mom. I have no trauma.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Imagine I asked it though.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Imagine if you did have trauma and some person who's
read a super communicator's book who barely knows you and
wants to take small talk to meetium talk, ask you
out of nowhere about your relationship with your mum. Okay,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
I think that small talk that has a purpose at
a place.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
No, I think you can definitely look, I'm not a
polite surprise winner Charles.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Sorry, but I do love Charles as well, because just
not criticizing him.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
But I feel like I'm good at this. I am
the interviewer in every relationship I've got. When I went
into the I'm Slebrity Jungle, no one even knew my name,
but I asked everyone every single thing about them.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
I genuinely love it. I think the key to it
is all you have to.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Do is find common ground. So you need to find
a common interest with someone. Then the second you have that,
they're going to feel more comfortable, and then you ask
questions about it.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
But not that.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
You just have to ask what is it about that
that makes you excited?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Or why?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
What is it about that that made you want to
go into that industry? Or do you think you'll be
in that industry forever? And if not, what would you
do instead? There are so many questions that aren't like, hey,
do you have some trauma bond with your mum?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Like that's crazy to me to ask on a first
diate or something to me.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
There are some things, yes, I mean everyone's heard the whole,
like ask an open question that doesn't have a yes
no answer, Like that's kind of like one oh one
of interviewing. But there are some things, regardless of how
magical a question might be, you should not ask if
you don't know someone well enough, there's a level there's
a level of depth that we just don't need with
everyone because also no one cares.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
You don't care about if you're a stranger at a
work party. You don't care what Sally's mom's doing.
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Good pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura Ben Bady.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Your work, our windows done, that's my world. Rison the
dust only good fabs all down. I've done much.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Now, but yeah, I know I'll.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Big get and what I want. It don't matter where.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
This is the pickup. Hi guys, welcome back to the Pickup.
It's Britt Hockey and Laura Burn and I am.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Making great progress. Laura with my wedding planning, thrilled what's
happened now? It's actually it's actually so funny.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I feel like I need to start these conversations with
how much I love my fiance and I can't wait
to marry.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Him, because I know a lot of the convos I've had.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Surrounding wedding planning and my fiancee Ben have been around
the fact that he hasn't been a great planner.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
This is exactly the type of caveat that mums put
out there when they're like, I love my child, but
being a parent sucks.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, exactly, but it's so rewarding.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, it's exactly that conversation.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
So patronizing is your husband.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
No.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I am very excited to marry Ben.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
But it's been an interesting journey with the planning that
he hasn't been overly involved in, but the things that
have excited him have been very interesting. So one of
his caveats for the wedding, the very first thing that
we ever spoke about over a year ago.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Was that he really wanted an ice cream cart at
the wedding. That was it.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
It wasn't the location, it wasn't inside or outside, it
wasn't where what country, It was just can we have
an ice cream?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I remember you sitting down and you were like, hey, honey,
what are your man trees for the wedding? And he
thought about it really, like really seriously. He took the
question absolutely to heart. And then he stopped down and
he said, I just think we need to have sorbet, Like, yeah,
that's it. And then did you have a moment where
you were like, am I marrying a giant child?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
It was sort of where I knew he was actual.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I was like, he's my penguin anyway, So Amelia, I
went planner from Easy Weddings. We're in a group chat
just me, Ben and Amelia, and I am the one
that's always deep in there doing everything. So I saw
some messages flying around last night and I noticed it
was about the ice cream. So I checked out a bit.
I was like, Oh, this is Ben's wheel his wheelhouse,
he's got this cupboard. I checked back in a bit
(02:24):
later and Amelia had asked Ben, Ben, the time has come,
send through your ice cream picks for the ice Cream
Crew top list. Yeah. Anyway, I see Ben sending through
something that I see Amelia right back and say, oh,
oh sorry, Ben, you need to just rephrase that you're
only allowed eight ice creams. I was like, I said, sorry, Amelia,
how many ice creams did Ben's pick?
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Sixteen ice creams?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
He wanted sixteen different ice cream.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Flavors in one tiny cart at our wedding.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Let the man live, Brittany.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
What are you going to do with soft china? Cont
Do you know what the thing was?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
He goes, Babe, how am I going to cut this down?
And I was like, okay, well, let's go through this.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
There's five different flavors of caramel, five salted caramel.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Peanut butter caramel.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I was like, Babe, let's cut the caramel.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
You're all say, like, then, if I've been able to
make every other decision, I'm sure you can cut the
ice crew down to five. Now, Britt, I want to
talk about something that I feel like most parents have
been faced with at one point in another, and.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
That is the poon armi. The poon armi with no tools.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
If you have little kids and you've forgotten a nappy,
or you've forgotten wives, or it's been explosive and you've
forgotten a change of clothes, everyone has had to deal
with something going very wrong and having to come up
with a quick and fast and hard solution.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Okay, what is this one of your kids? They're not
in nappies anymore, are they.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
No, I've got a five year old, four year old.
It's been a long time since we've dealt with a
poon army.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
This is off the back.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
There's a woman who's going viral online because she has
shared what seemingly is quite a resourceful solution to a
poon army that she experienced.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
However, the whole city is the full.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Situation sounds like an absolute disaster if you ask me so.
They're on an international flight, it is three thirty in
the morning, and she has realized that she didn't pack
span now for her one and a half year old,
This little kid looks.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Like on an overnight flight.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
On an overnight imagine waking up at three thirty in
the morning to a turd and being like, oh God,
here we go, here we go, Code brown everyone. So
what she did is she didn't have a nappy. She
had wipes, but she had panty liners like her own
panty liners. So she slid a panty liner into the nappy.
(04:33):
I'm guessing to try and absorb as much of the
excess fluid and everything else as possible.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
No, which you know what I heard about.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Like, I read this and I was like, I guess
it would kind of work, but I'm left with a
lot of questions.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I feel very sorry for her because I can't imagine.
I have not been in that position. But I would
imagine on a flight, like an overseas overnight flight, there
are a lot of people on there.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
There is guaranteed to be other families with kids.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I'd be patrolling those aisles until I found like another
mum and begging for a nappy.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
That's what I'd be doing.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
You know what that is that is spoken like a
true dog mum who's gotten to the dog park and
didn't have a bag. That is a true dog mum response,
because I didn't even clock that one.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I would That seems like the most obvious solution.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Do you know why?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Because I think if you went and asked someone else
for a nappy, the judgment of like, why didn't you
pack enough nappies? Like I just wouldn't even think to
ask someone for a nappy.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I wouldn't you just say, hey, they've pood wait more
than I would have thought. That's also what dog people say,
so when like your dog is poody, you've run out
of back like sorry that they usually do one, they've
done like.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Four, But realistically you just left with one rogue bag.
And I was it. I will never forget.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I was on a flight and it was it was
an international flight, but it was a day flight.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
We're going to Balley and you know that's a six
hour flight.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
And the family that was sitting directly in front of
me had a little baby, and I also had my
kids with me, so like we were surrounded by kids
and their little daughter. I think she must have been
about maybe two, so that's not like baby baby, like
two is that's that is full blown toddler territory, and
everyone could smell that someone had pooed their pants, like
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it was very evident in the whole of that area
of the seating, and so everyone was kind of quietly
being like, oh, who is And I sniffed both my
kids and I was like, my kids, it's not me,
it's the you know, I'm not responsible for this anyway.
Ten minutes later, the family in front, she just lays
the little girl down on the seat and uses the
seat that's right next to her as the change table
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to change the nappy, like starts fully changing the nappy
in the middle of her.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Is that like a no, go? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
No, you have to take them to the toilet and
use their fold out change it. I think it's okay
to change a nappy in lots of places, like I'm
a change nappy on the go kind of goal, but
absolutely not in a packed flight where every single other
person has to sit there and smell your kid like
that's to me that was writ.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Them down on someone's lap.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Nah. No, absolutely not anyway, so much so that the
air flight hostess came over and she was like, I'm
really sorry, but you cannot do that there you have
to go to the toilet, like, yeah, that's fair, She
looked horrified.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Also, the walk of shame, like when you've got to
then stand up with a stinky baby and everyone's like, oh,
you're already because you're like you've already stunk out the cabin,
and then you got to walk a shame like the
next pits.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
The smell's got nowhere to go. It's got nowhere to go.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
We heard packing nappies and go to the toilet.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
I do feel sorry for it, because, like I said,
I've been.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Caught out before, and you really have to get resourceful,
like you really have to think about like what is
it that I can use? Do you water it down
there with some toilet paper? Like what do you do
to try and save your kid from a from a
nappyless punami situation?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
For give me for taking this side step, but this
is where my brain has gone.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
When you just said being resourceful.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I do remember a time that you did a poop,
So what yeah you, Laura, you did a poop and
you Oh.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
This is really taking a side step, and I don't
know if you need to talk about this on radio.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah, you already spoke about it on radio. You've just
reminded me. You already forget that. You outed yourself.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
You did a poop and you there was any toilet paper,
so you went into your handbag and you found one
of the girl's socks.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Yeah, that was That was a low point in my life.
That was a low point.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
About talking about being resourceful. You've got to do what
you've gotta do.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Yeah, when when you're on the go.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I was reading this Reddit thread Laura. That gave me
a bit of a chuckle, and it reminded me of
a couple of things I've done.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
In the past and something that I've heard you throw
around a little bit.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Okah, what have I done?
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Now?
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Well, this could go.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Either way, but this woman was talking about this awkward
encounter she had with her boss and the way she
signed off a phone call.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
So this is her thread.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I accidentally said I love you at the end of
a call with an important client yesterday. I heard him
giggle as I hung up, and I was absolutely mortified.
Today I received an email from him. Now, imagine the
fact that you've had this awkward moment you said I
love you to someone. You absolutely shouldn't and then you
see an email pop up you're like.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Don't do you not just like hit that one on
the head and be like, sorry, that was I don't
actually love you?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Is that I don't love you?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Actually don't have feelings for you? Like, no, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I think it's better that you don't try to pretend
it didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah, so this is the email.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Hey, Sarah, just wanted to say that I didn't mean
to laugh at you when you accidentally signed off on
our call with I love you.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
He was just worried about getting in trouble from HH.
He's like, oh God, here we go. Now someone's gonna complain.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I just found it funny because I've definitely done that before,
and I know it happens. I'm glad you have enough
love in your life that the response comes naturally.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
If anything, you should be proud of that smiley face.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Have a great weekend, and we'll follow up about my
call with Chris on Wednesday as discussed, no I love
you sign off. Would you want that response or would
you want just like to pretend it didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
I've done some doozies. Actually, just the other day, our
radio boss Tony walked into the office. We're having a chat,
and then I caught him honey by accident, and we
just steamrolled like it wasn't even a thing.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
He didn't even notice. Thanks honey.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Oh he noticed.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
He looked at me and winked.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Ill.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I was I must have been in that moment. I
was in the room, and I did just be really uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I'm a words of affirmation kind of person, like I'm
an endearing term.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Everyone's honey or darling or something.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
I did it didn't mean to it was not intentional.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Also, no offense, Tony. If you're listening, Tony doesn't give honey.
He's not a honey.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
He's gonna hate that, poor Tony. Tony could be a
honey to someone you're not.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
You do you know what I'm really guilty of and
I probably have to work on it. I throw kisses
around day, mean nothing, like they don't though what they
do to me. But whoever I'm emailing, it doesn't matter
whether it's like the finance guy or the boss or
it's it's a client.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
I just throwing kisses and I'm like, I don't know
if you can do that.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I have one other example. There's many of them, but
this one just lives rent free in my mind. So, like,
I run another business where I was talking to a
client of mine and she had wanted to get a
piece of jewelry made specifically for her mom for Mother's Day.
It was a custom piece, and like, I'd not been
on comms at all. My sister, who's my business partner,
had been managing it. And I just chimed in because
I was like, Hi, so lovely, he's so excited, And
(11:02):
I signed off with have a lovely Mother's Day with
your bum scent. Oh my god, I have a great
time with your bum anyway.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
So she wrote that obviously she could between the lines,
but that's a typo.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
It does rhyme with mum and these two letters that
they shares the word.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I know, but really sometimes the autocorrect does you dirty,
because there's not it's not an incorrect spelling. But you
would think that AI would be intelligent enough by now
that it would go you've said mother's day, you probably don't.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Want to refer to your butt.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
So no, because a lot of it's going to guess
that this is a mum, or like what are you
doing on your mother's Everyone needs to enjoy themselves in
different ways, don't they?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
But play on Monday? All right, Hey, the lines are
going off. We've got Sarah on the phone. Hey Sarah, what.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Did you accidentally do to your boss?
Speaker 5 (11:46):
As I was leaving, I blew her a kiss?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Well, okay, so it's a female. We've got that, and
so you.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Want some contact, Yes, we do.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
So.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
I'm a disability support worker and it's not unusual for
when I leave for my client to blow me a kiss,
but this particular day she didn't, and I it wasn't
her though. I walked outside of her bedroom and her
parents were there, and I blew them kisses as I.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Like, man, you're just giving these kisses out left arn Zetnah,
who does it?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I'd be offended if I didn't get a kiss. Yeah,
bless you. I feel like you can get away with it.
Do you say anything alfterwards?
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Did you just leave it? Just walk away?
Speaker 5 (12:35):
I didn't say anything to them. I just walked out
the door and I got out there and I just died,
and I thought, Oh, there's no way that they haven't
just turned to each other and gone, what the hell?
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Just happened.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Oh you're just a loving, caring person. Good on you.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Thanks, thank you.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Hey, Kasha, what did you accidentally say to your boss?
Speaker 6 (12:55):
I accidentally sent my boss a message saying she's being
an absolute sea bomb today, accidentally sin that.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I feel like this pretty well thought out.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
I was sending it to one of the girls that
wasn't at work, and.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
No, did she have her emails forward it? Or did
you actually just see ce in your boss?
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Just so?
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Can you get the memo?
Speaker 6 (13:19):
It was a text message, so I sent it straight
to her.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Oh, oh my god, you were doing the old like
when you're thinking of someone so you go and text
typing that message instead?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Oh did she write back? Are you fired?
Speaker 6 (13:31):
She pulled me into her office and yeah. I try
to tell her that it was an accident and though
it was actually aimed towards a friend called Tracy, but
she was on me. She wasn't impressed at all.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
So, oh my god, Oh, thank you so much. I'm
glad you're still there.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Thank you, Thanks Casha.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Now, okay, Britt, how do you feel about small talk
in general? Small talk makes me feel uncomfortable because I
always wonder where am I going to take it?
Speaker 4 (14:03):
And then I feel like I'm on the spot.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I could small talk my way out of anything. I
don't love it, I don't get anything from it. I'd
rather avoid it, but it doesn't make me uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
The problem is this, Sometimes I think that I become
the interviewer in a small talk situation where I always
I just keep asking questions, asking questions, asking questions, and
then eventually I run out of questions to ask and
waiting for the conversation to.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Circle back around. But it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
So I try and avoid it because and when I
say avoid it, you can never avoid small talk. I
try and avoid situations that put me into making small
talk because I find it uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Yeah, well, I.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Mean no one loves it, no one. There is no
one that's like, oh, can't wait to go small talk tonight.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Like, but some people maybe don't really know how to
avoid it or how to like escalate it to a
medium talk or Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
But also some people are like super extroverted and so
like they don't even quote unquote, making small talk doesn't
touch the sides for them.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
I think I'm a hybrid.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I definitely would call myself an extrovert in some things.
But when it's new people and new environments, I'm quite
happy to take the back seat if someone else is
wanting to step into that.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I've never seen you take the back seat anywhere anywhere.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
It's not what it is, no, But I don't enjoy
it at all. Like I do really feel like it
is a task to make small talk and to keep
the conversation going. But sometimes I feel as though I
have to. And sometimes I also maybe this is in
my own insecurities. I think as though it's almost expected
because we work in a role where we talk all
the time, so people are like, oh, well, Laura can
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do this, and so I feel as though I walk
into some of those environments where it's like new people
or it's a work thing, and I'm like, I'm on
and I'm singing and dancing, and I go home and
a crash because I'm so overstimulated by having to like
put on a show.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Well. The reason why I want to bring this up
is because firstly, I think a lot of people like
struggle to get conversations out of the small talk conversation
purgatory and into something that feels a little bit more
meaty or it feels like it's a back and forth.
But there is a guy named Charles Jewick. Now he's
a Politzer Prisman. He's also coined a super communicator. We
(16:04):
recently interviewed him on our podcast Life on Cut podcast.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
He's brilliant. If you want to communicator, if you want
to learn a little bit.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
About communicating, that is the episode to go and listen to.
But I actually found an article that he has been
quoted in and it was talking about how to get
deeper on a first date. Now I found this so
funny because some of these questions, they've called them magical questions,
magical questions that take small talk to deep talk.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
If someone asked me.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
These questions on a first date, I think I'd have
to up and leave.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
So this article isn't just about generally taking chat to.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
The next level, you know what dates only.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
It doesn't just have to be first dates.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
But is that where he is saying it's first dates only?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
It was about how to connect on a deeper level.
But it was with people that you would be making
small talk with. Right, So imagine going to a work party,
you're making small talk, first date small talk. You're just
in the getting to know each other phase and then
someone throws out one of these questions. I'm going to
ask you what a coin to the five Magical questions,
and you can answer them as honestly or you can
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tell me where to go.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
All right?
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Question number one, what are you excited it about right now?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
My wedding?
Speaker 4 (17:11):
That's actually a good one because someone could get into
more debt. What about your wedding?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I'm actually I'm not getting married for On my first date,
I was like.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Yeah, Number two, if you could wake up tomorrow having
gained any one quality or.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Ability, what would it be to be able to fly?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Great?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Okay, but that doesn't feel particularly deep.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
He's take my answers.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Don't ask me a question, then tell me my answer
is wrong.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
What is it about flying? Okay?
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Number three, imagine someone who you don't know asking you this,
when's the last time you cried in front of another person?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
I think that's a good question.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I mean I cry all the time on the podcast
in front of loads of people, like all the interviews
that we do.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
You and I cry in front of each other all
the time.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Are you true? This is true? We do, But I
mean like a real cry, like a oh my dog.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
I cry a lot in front of my dog, and
then I say, don't.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Tell anyone, Okay, I won't critique your answer. Question number four,
do you have a secret hunch about where or how.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
You will die? Can we just stop down?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
This could be someone at a work party asking you these,
and these feel deeply inappropriate.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
All the questions until now are fine.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Asking someone about their like impending death is not okay
when you don't even know that.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Okay, Well, this one's gonna really send you into out
of space. How do you feel about your relationship with
your mother?
Speaker 3 (18:30):
I love my mom. I have no trauma.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Imagine I asked it though.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Imagine if you did have trauma and some person who's
read a super communicator's book who barely knows you and
wants to take small talk to meetium talk, ask you
out of nowhere about your relationship with your mum. Okay,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
I think that small talk that has a purpose at
a place.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
No, I think you can definitely look, I'm not a
polite surprise winner Charles.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Sorry, but I do love Charles as well, because just
not criticizing him.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
But I feel like I'm good at this. I am
the interviewer in every relationship I've got. When I went
into the I'm Slebrity Jungle, no one even knew my name,
but I asked everyone every single thing about them.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
I genuinely love it. I think the key to it
is all you have to.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Do is find common ground. So you need to find
a common interest with someone. Then the second you have that,
they're going to feel more comfortable, and then you ask
questions about it.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
But not that.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
You just have to ask what is it about that
that makes you excited?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Or why?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
What is it about that that made you want to
go into that industry? Or do you think you'll be
in that industry forever? And if not, what would you
do instead? There are so many questions that aren't like, hey,
do you have some trauma bond with your mum?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Like that's crazy to me to ask on a first
diate or something to me.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
There are some things, yes, I mean everyone's heard the whole,
like ask an open question that doesn't have a yes
no answer, Like that's kind of like one oh one
of interviewing. But there are some things, regardless of how
magical a question might be, you should not ask if
you don't know someone well enough, there's a level there's
a level of depth that we just don't need with
everyone because also no one cares.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
You don't care about if you're a stranger at a
work party. You don't care what Sally's mom's doing.
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