August 11, 2025 • 13 mins
Britt & Laura debate what the best song of all time is. Laura shares a new parenting trend called FAFO Parenting, and Britt has a warning about a new feature on Instagram.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
My heart podcasts, hear more Kiss podcast playlist and listen
live on the Free iHeart app.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
A good pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Bed Brady or work our Windows done?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
That's my world, risen the dust only good fable down.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I don't much, but yeah I'm not.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
I'll big get and what I want it, don't mattle where.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
This is the pickup.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Pie guys, welcome back.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
It's the pickup with Britt Hockley.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Is Laura bed Oh happy Monday?
Speaker 5 (00:44):
I'm actually I shouldn't say actually, I'm so happy to
be here today. You've lost the plot.
Speaker 6 (00:49):
But I'm often happy to be here, but I'm particularly
happy to be here today.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Do you know what today is?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
You know how every day has like an international day?
Speaker 5 (00:55):
It's Monday? Yeah, because you often forget.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
No, every day has like an international day or something
like international pie day.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Talk like a pirate day?
Speaker 6 (01:03):
Yeah, talks today? Can I tell you joke quickly? Off,
just quickly while we're seeing innet? Why are pirates pirates?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I don't know, Brittany.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
Because they are. You can use that it's not copyrighted.
What is today, Laura?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Today is International lazy Day?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
So if you've been feeling particularly lazy today. We're actually
going home. It's been a great show.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Everyone.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Tomorrow could have been whoa, I think waite, Sorry, I
just look at you something that.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Toes out of it. Laura acts like, whoa, what happened?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
But she's like this, sorry, I'm so lazy. I just
pulled my headphones out. I've decided to finish.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
Yeah, we'll see you tomorrow. It was it was a
nice show.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Will be up in an hour.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
No, they're even lazier doing it.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Then we say this, but we do have a big
show for you guys today. Okay, we're on the hunt everyone,
We're on the hunt to try and find the best
song of all time.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
And then I've been crying in the break.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
It's a big indepth to undertake. Like, no, it's not.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Because we're stressed about it.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I am.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
I'm really stressed.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
I feel like giving somebody that title is a huge
responsibility that I don't.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
Know if I'm prepared for.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I deeply agree.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
But also, we were just touching on some of the
songs that were ruled nostalgia songs for us. While From
the Windows to the Wall, No do you guys remember
the song Butterfly Kisses. It's so sad. I mean, it's
written by God. I think he was a one hit wonder.
Bob Carlisle was his name. But that song, every time
(02:30):
I hear it, I am in tears. Although it's not
my number one song of all time.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Well, okay, I just I did feel a lot of stress.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
The pendulum was swinging between Hoody and the Blowfish and
Kat Stevens. I was an old soul when I was younger,
and I do love that music, but I somehow found
myself gravitating towards Aerosmith.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Don't want to miss a thing.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
God what a banger. I can't like the emotions going.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
My heart's palpitating.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
I'm like I'm feeling the emotion in his voice.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Okay, So my song that I put forward as the
best song of all time is definitely debatable, and I
think a lot of people would disagree that it brings
me a lot of joy, brings me a lot of passion.
It's me out on a dance floor, DJ Grace, TLC
no scrubs. Does that not just transport you back to
(03:34):
your hands party?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Brit When everyone was up on the boat trying to
do a crump.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
It's trying. Sorry, we croll.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I was heavily pregnant, trying to try to what is
at work?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
It doesn't work.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
I do know the tesis terminology. I've just also had
a realization Nelly was pretty good. Some of Nelly's songs too.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
But we're not going there.
Speaker 6 (03:49):
Okay, My next song is I think that it's hard
to overlook this one. You will feel the same, Laura,
because it was a song at your wedding, But I think.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
It's at everyone's wedding. This is when Houston.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, it was my first dance song.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Trace by Shart Warriors Bad.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
It's hard not to.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
I would go so far as to say, if you
were at a wedding and that song came on and
you didn't get up your sociopath.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Is it possible?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I would agree. Do you know what's the most devastating part?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Every time I hear that song, I'm just reminded about
the fact that I don't have a video of my
first dance or my wedding because the cameraman stood in
front of his own camera.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah, I have a video of.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
A cameraman's back from my wedding that's truly devastating.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
I haven't posted my whole wedding dance yet because I
still think of you and I don't want to rub
in your face.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
But mind you, I might actually post it this week.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
All right, I have one more, and I think everyone
it's also an iconic wedding song. But the reason why
I'm putting this one forward is because we call it
our family song, and so we sing it to the
girls and they love it and they sing it to us,
and it's just it's a real sentimental piece for us.
It is I Love You Always, forever.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
All the best songs of all time.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
It's a tricky title to try and pin down, but
we're giving you guys opportunity to get involved in this
because we want to know what your absolute number one
banger is. Could be from Forever Ago, it could be
more recent bottom Gems, it could be Apple Bottom Gin.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
We are on the hunt for the best sog ever.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
So all you have to do is pick your three
favorite songs of all time, pop in your vote at
Kiss dot com dot au, and we're gonna whittle it
down to the number one. I feel like we'd like
to put a label on everything brit especially relationships labels,
got them for everything.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Also parenting styles.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
There's even that parenting style show that's on at the
moment forgot what it's called.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
That's I'm sure you recommended that show.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
It's got a little Langdon in it.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
But like they use different parenting styles, like you know,
the tech parenting or the gentle parenting.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Is it parental guidance? That's it.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Thank God for producing Grace who actually knows things.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
On this show.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Thank God.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
All right.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
But there's a new type of parenting style that's been
spoken about recently.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
It's called FAFO parenting.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Fa FO like FI flying fly when you tap in
dub you just fly out and come back. No, what
it stands for is f around and find out parenting.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
So it came from Kylie Kelsey, who is Travis.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Kelce's sister in law, and she was talking about it
on her podcast, and I guess that that's what's brought
into mainstream attention. But there's a lot of experts who
have some strong opinions about this have listened to this.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
FAFO parenting, which stands for her ground and find out
parenting is the act of having your kids experience the
natural consequences of their actions without getting too involved.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
So an example of this, right, a really casual version
of FAFO parenting might be if your kids having a
tantruments they don't want to put a jumper on, but
you know that it's a blizzard outside, and you go, fine, don't.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Worry a jump up, go outside and figure it out
for yourself. And then you go outside, you don't have
a jumper. They don't have a jumper.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
You don't give them their your jumper because you didn't prepare.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
And they freeze to death and their hypothermia, and it's.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Like, you know what, if you're not going to pay
attention to me and the things I tell you, I'm
not gonna help you.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
I mean, figure it out, kid.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
It depends on what the extreme is. I don't know kids,
I'm not a parent. I can still have an opinion.
My opinion is I think that's absolutely fine.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
I think we I think we we coddle children too much.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
Like if there are no consequences, people don't learn anything.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Kids or adults, Like, you have.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
To have consequences and like this is how you learn
anything in life.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Every action has a reaction.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Britt I just honestly thought you were gonna say the opposite,
So you really threw me.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Oh no, my kid, Good luck to them.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
That's what There's got to be levels to this, right,
Like I mean, okay, you're at a red traffic light.
Stop at a red traffic light. If my kid's just
gonna run across a road, I'm not gonna be like
ever round of fun. Like there's got to be rules
that you implement and you enforce with your kids to
keep them safe. Like, our primary job as parents is
to keep your children safe. And so if you're not
(07:58):
doing that because your kid put up too much of
an argument, you can't be bothered to like pick your.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Battles with them.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I think it's just lazy ass parenting.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
I think it's pretty obvious that people is trying to
keep their kids safe. No one gonna let them run
out in traffic and see what happens. Like that's not
what we're talking about. I think it's more just about
like what you said, like if you don't put on
a jumper go outside, fine, you'll be cold. They'll come
back in in ten minutes because they're cold, But you
gotta let them.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Work it out.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah, But sometimes I'm like, okay, cool. If I'm gonna
have that fight with my kid, like they don't want
to pack a drink bottle or they don't want to
pack a jumper and they're five and I know that
they're going to be freezing, I'm gonna pack the drink
bottle and the jumper because even if I don't want
to pick the battle to get out of the house,
I don't want to have the battle for the.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Rest of the day.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I don't want to then deal with the next three
hours of my kid complaining because they forgot the thing
that I told them.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (08:41):
I feel like, to be fair, if your kid is thirsty,
you will give it water.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Let's not what Laura say.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
I think the difference is, yes, you will pack the
drink bottle, Laura, but you let them, for that moment,
feel what it would feel like if oh my god,
I wish I had my drink bottle. I can't believe
I brought that. You're not gonna make them thirsty, but
they have to have that moment of like, oh I
get it. I get my mom wanted me to bring that.
Now consequence, that's the lesson learned. Yeah, because I think
that if we're not letting our kids understand that like
(09:08):
not everything, know, everything's given to you. Actions, you know,
have repercussions and all of this kind of stuff, how
are you supposed to learn?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I mean, like I do agree to some extent, but
I think that there is probably kind of ways then,
like the extremism of like ever around found out like
their kids they're learning, of course, they're going to push boundaries.
And I still think that as parents it's our responsibility
to guide them in the best way, and that might
be sometimes having an argument about like doing what's the
best thing from the get go.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
And I don't get me wrong, I do think pick
your battles. Like my kid walks out of the.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
House with earmuffs are two to two and a swimmer
over the top, like she wears whatever the hell she wants.
I don't care about that battle. But I think with
some things, I'm like, I'd rather just do it the
safer way than worrying about them making their own decisions
and figuring out consequences that could adversely affect them.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
I'll send my kids to your house, That's what I.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
Laura, I don't know if you have heard about this
yet or you know, those of you in the car
right now, you probably haven't because it's a new Instagram
feature that is just about to be rolled out in Australia,
but it has started already in other countries.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
You saying that you've just turned off on your phone
was the first time I even knew that this thing existed.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
You were just talking about it before we went to
the break.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
I mean, it's a new feature causing a lot of controversy,
but I think it's a scary new feature and I'm
not convinced we I mean, it can be used for good.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I guess.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
Let me talk you through it.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
Basically, Instagram is releasing like a live location, so you
know where you can do like an Apple Find my Friends,
where you can turn your location on share it with
a friend now. Yeah, so it's like I guess, for
that sense, it's a safety feature.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I mean, you don't need to do that through Instagram.
Apple's got it. It's for your phone. I don't understand.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Yeah, so you can also do it on Snapchat.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
Apparently I don't have Snapchat, but you know, in my
due diligence, I did read that you can use it there.
But what's happening is all of those features like on
phones and other platforms, they're like an opt in, so
the feature is essentially off unless you decide to you
can go and access it.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
What is happening with Instagram?
Speaker 6 (11:06):
A lot of people have been reporting that it's an
opt out, which means with an update, your phone is
automatically sharing these live locations, which I mean, when you
think about it, is extremely dangerous. If you have Instagram,
you have so many strangers and random people following, and
you're following, and.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
So what if you're a public profile then so for example,
I mean a lot of people have the Instagram on private,
but a lot of people don't like my Instagram's not
on private. So if I had that open, could anyone
see where I am at any time?
Speaker 6 (11:36):
So it's mutual followers, is our understanding, So like you
both have to be following each other. But still think
of how many people there are that you don't actually know.
Maybe it's an art account, maybe it's a renovation account,
whatever it.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Is, I follow two thousand people like you, I don't
know two thousand people.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
You can see here, Laura, there's a picture and you
guys can look it up at home, but there's a
picture that literally has the face and exactly where they
are floating around the screen.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Like that's what people are going to have access to.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
And I don't believe people getting notifications that it is
happening and that it's on. So it's something and it's
about to roll out all through Australia. It is something
that you can do. But I want to tell you
how to review your location settings in case, because I
just think this is very dangerous for a lot of reasons.
You can go into your Instagram DMS then there will
be like a little map icon, like a little map
(12:23):
banner and it will say who can see your location?
So you just need to make sure you switch that
off or you can put it to limit and private.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Is this something that everyone can see? So I've got
into mine, I can't see anything right.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
Just yet because it hasn't rolled out here yet, right yeah, okay,
so but people's you know, you're on all these big rollouts.
It happens differently for everyone. It's not like not everyone
wakes up one morning and it's on. So it's something
to be aware of, like mine might happen way before yours.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Laura, for example, I think that this is very frightening,
especially if it is an opt out situation, because obviously
there's always the worry about like your data and your
privacy and everything else being breached.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
But for like young girls.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Who are using social media apps like you just don't know,
you just don't know, like any.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
Kids, kids, all heaps of young kids are on there
and a sudden anyone can access their location.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
That's really scary stuff, isn't it. Oh well, I mean
I'll be interested to see has it already come to
Australia and it started the rollout or is it something
that is on its way.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
Well, at the end of last week, it wasn't here yet,
but it was close. But I don't know if like
people have woken up this morning and it started. Yeah,
I don't have that info. But it's just one of
those things to keep your eye on because it is coming.
Like we know it is coming. I say that like
it's a tsunami, but we know it is about to come.
But keep your eye on not only yours, but if
you have teenagers at home or kids, they're not going
to know about this feature either.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yeah, that's absolutely crazy. Well, guys, that's it from US today.
My heart podcasts, hear more Kiss podcast playlist and listen
live on the Free iHeart app.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
A good pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Bed Brady or work our Windows done?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
That's my world, risen the dust only good fable down.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I don't much, but yeah I'm not.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
I'll big get and what I want it, don't mattle where.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
This is the pickup.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Pie guys, welcome back.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
It's the pickup with Britt Hockley.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Is Laura bed Oh happy Monday?
Speaker 5 (00:44):
I'm actually I shouldn't say actually, I'm so happy to
be here today. You've lost the plot.
Speaker 6 (00:49):
But I'm often happy to be here, but I'm particularly
happy to be here today.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Do you know what today is?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
You know how every day has like an international day?
Speaker 5 (00:55):
It's Monday? Yeah, because you often forget.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
No, every day has like an international day or something
like international pie day.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Talk like a pirate day?
Speaker 6 (01:03):
Yeah, talks today? Can I tell you joke quickly? Off,
just quickly while we're seeing innet? Why are pirates pirates?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I don't know, Brittany.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
Because they are. You can use that it's not copyrighted.
What is today, Laura?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Today is International lazy Day?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
So if you've been feeling particularly lazy today. We're actually
going home. It's been a great show.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Everyone.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Tomorrow could have been whoa, I think waite, Sorry, I
just look at you something that.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Toes out of it. Laura acts like, whoa, what happened?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
But she's like this, sorry, I'm so lazy. I just
pulled my headphones out. I've decided to finish.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
Yeah, we'll see you tomorrow. It was it was a
nice show.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Will be up in an hour.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
No, they're even lazier doing it.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Then we say this, but we do have a big
show for you guys today. Okay, we're on the hunt everyone,
We're on the hunt to try and find the best
song of all time.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
And then I've been crying in the break.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
It's a big indepth to undertake. Like, no, it's not.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Because we're stressed about it.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I am.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
I'm really stressed.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
I feel like giving somebody that title is a huge
responsibility that I don't.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
Know if I'm prepared for.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I deeply agree.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
But also, we were just touching on some of the
songs that were ruled nostalgia songs for us. While From
the Windows to the Wall, No do you guys remember
the song Butterfly Kisses. It's so sad. I mean, it's
written by God. I think he was a one hit wonder.
Bob Carlisle was his name. But that song, every time
(02:30):
I hear it, I am in tears. Although it's not
my number one song of all time.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Well, okay, I just I did feel a lot of stress.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
The pendulum was swinging between Hoody and the Blowfish and
Kat Stevens. I was an old soul when I was younger,
and I do love that music, but I somehow found
myself gravitating towards Aerosmith.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Don't want to miss a thing.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
God what a banger. I can't like the emotions going.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
My heart's palpitating.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
I'm like I'm feeling the emotion in his voice.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Okay, So my song that I put forward as the
best song of all time is definitely debatable, and I
think a lot of people would disagree that it brings
me a lot of joy, brings me a lot of passion.
It's me out on a dance floor, DJ Grace, TLC
no scrubs. Does that not just transport you back to
(03:34):
your hands party?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Brit When everyone was up on the boat trying to
do a crump.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
It's trying. Sorry, we croll.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I was heavily pregnant, trying to try to what is
at work?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
It doesn't work.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
I do know the tesis terminology. I've just also had
a realization Nelly was pretty good. Some of Nelly's songs too.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
But we're not going there.
Speaker 6 (03:49):
Okay, My next song is I think that it's hard
to overlook this one. You will feel the same, Laura,
because it was a song at your wedding, But I think.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
It's at everyone's wedding. This is when Houston.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, it was my first dance song.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Trace by Shart Warriors Bad.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
It's hard not to.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
I would go so far as to say, if you
were at a wedding and that song came on and
you didn't get up your sociopath.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Is it possible?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I would agree. Do you know what's the most devastating part?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Every time I hear that song, I'm just reminded about
the fact that I don't have a video of my
first dance or my wedding because the cameraman stood in
front of his own camera.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah, I have a video of.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
A cameraman's back from my wedding that's truly devastating.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
I haven't posted my whole wedding dance yet because I
still think of you and I don't want to rub
in your face.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
But mind you, I might actually post it this week.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
All right, I have one more, and I think everyone
it's also an iconic wedding song. But the reason why
I'm putting this one forward is because we call it
our family song, and so we sing it to the
girls and they love it and they sing it to us,
and it's just it's a real sentimental piece for us.
It is I Love You Always, forever.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
All the best songs of all time.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
It's a tricky title to try and pin down, but
we're giving you guys opportunity to get involved in this
because we want to know what your absolute number one
banger is. Could be from Forever Ago, it could be
more recent bottom Gems, it could be Apple Bottom Gin.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
We are on the hunt for the best sog ever.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
So all you have to do is pick your three
favorite songs of all time, pop in your vote at
Kiss dot com dot au, and we're gonna whittle it
down to the number one. I feel like we'd like
to put a label on everything brit especially relationships labels,
got them for everything.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Also parenting styles.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
There's even that parenting style show that's on at the
moment forgot what it's called.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
That's I'm sure you recommended that show.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
It's got a little Langdon in it.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
But like they use different parenting styles, like you know,
the tech parenting or the gentle parenting.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Is it parental guidance? That's it.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Thank God for producing Grace who actually knows things.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
On this show.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Thank God.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
All right.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
But there's a new type of parenting style that's been
spoken about recently.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
It's called FAFO parenting.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Fa FO like FI flying fly when you tap in
dub you just fly out and come back. No, what
it stands for is f around and find out parenting.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
So it came from Kylie Kelsey, who is Travis.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Kelce's sister in law, and she was talking about it
on her podcast, and I guess that that's what's brought
into mainstream attention. But there's a lot of experts who
have some strong opinions about this have listened to this.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
FAFO parenting, which stands for her ground and find out
parenting is the act of having your kids experience the
natural consequences of their actions without getting too involved.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
So an example of this, right, a really casual version
of FAFO parenting might be if your kids having a
tantruments they don't want to put a jumper on, but
you know that it's a blizzard outside, and you go, fine, don't.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Worry a jump up, go outside and figure it out
for yourself. And then you go outside, you don't have
a jumper. They don't have a jumper.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
You don't give them their your jumper because you didn't prepare.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
And they freeze to death and their hypothermia, and it's.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Like, you know what, if you're not going to pay
attention to me and the things I tell you, I'm
not gonna help you.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
I mean, figure it out, kid.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
It depends on what the extreme is. I don't know kids,
I'm not a parent. I can still have an opinion.
My opinion is I think that's absolutely fine.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
I think we I think we we coddle children too much.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
Like if there are no consequences, people don't learn anything.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Kids or adults, Like, you have.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
To have consequences and like this is how you learn
anything in life.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Every action has a reaction.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Britt I just honestly thought you were gonna say the opposite,
So you really threw me.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Oh no, my kid, Good luck to them.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
That's what There's got to be levels to this, right,
Like I mean, okay, you're at a red traffic light.
Stop at a red traffic light. If my kid's just
gonna run across a road, I'm not gonna be like
ever round of fun. Like there's got to be rules
that you implement and you enforce with your kids to
keep them safe. Like, our primary job as parents is
to keep your children safe. And so if you're not
(07:58):
doing that because your kid put up too much of
an argument, you can't be bothered to like pick your.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Battles with them.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I think it's just lazy ass parenting.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
I think it's pretty obvious that people is trying to
keep their kids safe. No one gonna let them run
out in traffic and see what happens. Like that's not
what we're talking about. I think it's more just about
like what you said, like if you don't put on
a jumper go outside, fine, you'll be cold. They'll come
back in in ten minutes because they're cold, But you
gotta let them.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Work it out.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah, But sometimes I'm like, okay, cool. If I'm gonna
have that fight with my kid, like they don't want
to pack a drink bottle or they don't want to
pack a jumper and they're five and I know that
they're going to be freezing, I'm gonna pack the drink
bottle and the jumper because even if I don't want
to pick the battle to get out of the house,
I don't want to have the battle for the.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Rest of the day.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I don't want to then deal with the next three
hours of my kid complaining because they forgot the thing
that I told them.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (08:41):
I feel like, to be fair, if your kid is thirsty,
you will give it water.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Let's not what Laura say.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
I think the difference is, yes, you will pack the
drink bottle, Laura, but you let them, for that moment,
feel what it would feel like if oh my god,
I wish I had my drink bottle. I can't believe
I brought that. You're not gonna make them thirsty, but
they have to have that moment of like, oh I
get it. I get my mom wanted me to bring that.
Now consequence, that's the lesson learned. Yeah, because I think
that if we're not letting our kids understand that like
(09:08):
not everything, know, everything's given to you. Actions, you know,
have repercussions and all of this kind of stuff, how
are you supposed to learn?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I mean, like I do agree to some extent, but
I think that there is probably kind of ways then,
like the extremism of like ever around found out like
their kids they're learning, of course, they're going to push boundaries.
And I still think that as parents it's our responsibility
to guide them in the best way, and that might
be sometimes having an argument about like doing what's the
best thing from the get go.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
And I don't get me wrong, I do think pick
your battles. Like my kid walks out of the.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
House with earmuffs are two to two and a swimmer
over the top, like she wears whatever the hell she wants.
I don't care about that battle. But I think with
some things, I'm like, I'd rather just do it the
safer way than worrying about them making their own decisions
and figuring out consequences that could adversely affect them.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
I'll send my kids to your house, That's what I.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
Laura, I don't know if you have heard about this
yet or you know, those of you in the car
right now, you probably haven't because it's a new Instagram
feature that is just about to be rolled out in Australia,
but it has started already in other countries.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
You saying that you've just turned off on your phone
was the first time I even knew that this thing existed.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
You were just talking about it before we went to
the break.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
I mean, it's a new feature causing a lot of controversy,
but I think it's a scary new feature and I'm
not convinced we I mean, it can be used for good.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I guess.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
Let me talk you through it.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
Basically, Instagram is releasing like a live location, so you
know where you can do like an Apple Find my Friends,
where you can turn your location on share it with
a friend now. Yeah, so it's like I guess, for
that sense, it's a safety feature.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I mean, you don't need to do that through Instagram.
Apple's got it. It's for your phone. I don't understand.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Yeah, so you can also do it on Snapchat.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
Apparently I don't have Snapchat, but you know, in my
due diligence, I did read that you can use it there.
But what's happening is all of those features like on
phones and other platforms, they're like an opt in, so
the feature is essentially off unless you decide to you
can go and access it.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
What is happening with Instagram?
Speaker 6 (11:06):
A lot of people have been reporting that it's an
opt out, which means with an update, your phone is
automatically sharing these live locations, which I mean, when you
think about it, is extremely dangerous. If you have Instagram,
you have so many strangers and random people following, and
you're following, and.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
So what if you're a public profile then so for example,
I mean a lot of people have the Instagram on private,
but a lot of people don't like my Instagram's not
on private. So if I had that open, could anyone
see where I am at any time?
Speaker 6 (11:36):
So it's mutual followers, is our understanding, So like you
both have to be following each other. But still think
of how many people there are that you don't actually know.
Maybe it's an art account, maybe it's a renovation account,
whatever it.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Is, I follow two thousand people like you, I don't
know two thousand people.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
You can see here, Laura, there's a picture and you
guys can look it up at home, but there's a
picture that literally has the face and exactly where they
are floating around the screen.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Like that's what people are going to have access to.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
And I don't believe people getting notifications that it is
happening and that it's on. So it's something and it's
about to roll out all through Australia. It is something
that you can do. But I want to tell you
how to review your location settings in case, because I
just think this is very dangerous for a lot of reasons.
You can go into your Instagram DMS then there will
be like a little map icon, like a little map
(12:23):
banner and it will say who can see your location?
So you just need to make sure you switch that
off or you can put it to limit and private.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Is this something that everyone can see? So I've got
into mine, I can't see anything right.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
Just yet because it hasn't rolled out here yet, right yeah, okay,
so but people's you know, you're on all these big rollouts.
It happens differently for everyone. It's not like not everyone
wakes up one morning and it's on. So it's something
to be aware of, like mine might happen way before yours.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Laura, for example, I think that this is very frightening,
especially if it is an opt out situation, because obviously
there's always the worry about like your data and your
privacy and everything else being breached.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
But for like young girls.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Who are using social media apps like you just don't know,
you just don't know, like any.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
Kids, kids, all heaps of young kids are on there
and a sudden anyone can access their location.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
That's really scary stuff, isn't it. Oh well, I mean
I'll be interested to see has it already come to
Australia and it started the rollout or is it something
that is on its way.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
Well, at the end of last week, it wasn't here yet,
but it was close. But I don't know if like
people have woken up this morning and it started. Yeah,
I don't have that info. But it's just one of
those things to keep your eye on because it is coming.
Like we know it is coming. I say that like
it's a tsunami, but we know it is about to come.
But keep your eye on not only yours, but if
you have teenagers at home or kids, they're not going
to know about this feature either.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yeah, that's absolutely crazy. Well, guys, that's it from US today.
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