June 18, 2025 • 18 mins
Matty J MAY have cracked the code on the best place to sit with kids on a plane, Julia Morris chats about her 2025 Gold Logie Campaign and Britt & Laura unpack why couples are more likely to split after their second child.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Good Pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura Burn.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
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the dust, only good zabs all down.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
I've done much, but yeah I'm not. I'll big get
and what I want.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
It don't matter where.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
This is the pickup. Happy hum day afternoon everyone. It
is the pick Up with Britt Hockley and Laura Burn.
Speaker 6 (00:43):
Are you feeling this fine Wednesday?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Laura, I mean I'm feeling good now. We had a
little bit of a setback this week.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
We had. I say we because I do.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Think that when your kids are in kindergarten and they
have assignments, Jew, that it also kind of falls on
the parent as well.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Like it's like we had an assignment, Jew.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
No kindergartener is doing assignments on their own. Everything is
the parent.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
But also like, I don't know how a lot of
parents have time for the homework part of school. And
I say this because if your kids are going to
after school care and they don't finish school until five o'clock,
my kids are in bed at six thirty. Yeah, they
got to come home, they got to eat dinner, and
then they're in bed. We were a little bit late
for Marley's first school project.
Speaker 6 (01:24):
What is a little bit late?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
We were a week late, oh, getting the first project in.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
It's okay. We got an extension. It was extension on.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Your first project when you're in kidd That is wild.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
And it was on her favorite number, which is number six. Okay, yeah,
is that because she's six?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Well, she turned six tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
It's her birthday, so she wanted to maybe she wanted
to delay it so it was within her birthday week,
so it made a bit more sense.
Speaker 6 (01:47):
Do you know what. I don't have children, but I
think school are two lax these days.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Back in my day, if you had just signed MAC children, No,
we don't recommend it used to tie.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
Us up to the chairs. If you had an assignment juke.
It was juke like you would lose points every day.
It wasn't du because it taught you like discipline and
structure and that you know, you can't just run your
own race.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
No, but also it's our fault. I'm not going to
blame a six year old for that. It is our
fault that it hasn't been submitted. But also we were
away for your wedding. That's my fault, it's your fault,
your wedding, and so she was overseas and that's why
it got delayed. But she's just when it comes to homework.
She's really smart, she's doing so well, but she is
not motivated to get the homework side.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Of things done.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I remember being in kindergarten and going to my first
interview with our school principal and.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
He had this big wooden desk.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I don't think he ever used it, but he just
had a cane on display, like in a holder on.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
His desk to subtle flex just I don't have to
use it, but you know it's there and I don't
have to say anything about it.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
School has definitely changed and it's definitely not a bad thing.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
All right, Well, everyone put your books out for Marley May.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Now recently we traveled over to Bali for your wedding.
We did, we did, and wonderful it really was.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Do you know what was in a highlight though, Matt
trying to out my wedding before I had it.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
That was away a light for you.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
While speaking of my husband, No, the hardest part of
traveling international when you have kids is the travel part, right,
It's the booking the flights, it's getting them to the airport.
But one thing that I think we don't consider enough
is the seat orientation, Like what is the best seat
selection when you were either traveling as a solo parent
with your kids and like Matt had to come over
(03:25):
by himself. So my husband, Matt, he flew over with
our two girls. Yeah, completely solo. He put up on
his Instagram that he was tempted to try a new
seating arrangement.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Now, keep in mind, we've got a five year old
and a four year old.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
They're still really young and they're at an age where
they need to be supervised on a flight.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
But what Matt wanted.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
To book and what he ended up booking, was the
girls sitting completely by themselves on the window seat and
him sitting completely by himself on the aisle seat.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Now I thought that this sounded like absolute madness.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I'm like, if you're traveling with kids, and I've done
a few international flights with our kids by myself, and
I've always sat next to them in the middle, like
contain them, sit between them and they're fighting, you can
pass out the snacks like you're there and you're ready
to supervise.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
Why would you have not sat with them? Was only
two seats in the aisle, not three?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I don't know none of those options for three as well.
You could have sat it could have sat in the
middle of the kids.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Now, we had a bit of a debate about this,
and I have him on the line because I'm still
confused as to how he thought or maybe still thinks
that this is the way to go and that this
is what parents should be doing for the.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Solution of how to travel with kids.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
All right, how long? Jerry Springer mat Hello, my darling.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Hello lady? How are we.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Were very well, probably better than you after flying Soli
by yourself.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
What was your reasoning behind this?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Firstly, well, I like to think of this trip as
a scientific experiment. I'm trying to make breakthroughs to the
industry of parenting. It's a selfless act for me.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
What I do want to say, though, is I was
shocked by how many people on your socials were saying
that it was a good idea, that they tried this,
and they actually thought it was.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
But it was the secret source.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
You could have all sat together, though that's the question.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yes, very good question, Brutin. I'm glad you asked it.
I thought what I was trying to achieve here is
the fact that we have two kids, Miley and Lala.
They are now four and five, for reference, old enough
to talk after themselves, all right, and so I, yes, old.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Enough to look after themselves.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Four their self contained. And I just thought it would
be nice on a six and a half hour flight
by myself as a solo parent. May I add, Laura,
I hope you're enjoying your mocktails by the pool. I
just it it'd be nice to have some reprieve from
the kids. Like I can watch my movie, they can
watch their movie. They're happy, I'm happy, everybody has a
great time.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I do have a question here, then, So I know
that Laura was enjoying her cocktail mockshow mockow she's pregnant.
But what about how just a couple of months ago
she traveled twenty seven hours alone with the kids to
South Africa while you'd been away in the jungle for
a month.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
You know what, we made that trip a lot better
if she had separated herself from the children.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I think, Look, maybe you're onto something. I feel like
this is genius for the parent and terrible for everyone
who's sitting around. The children want it that way.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Did it work?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Look, I'll be honest, it didn't work as well as
I thought it would have because the kids didn't sleep.
If they would have slept, it would have been a
lot better. But I just think it's really important to
say that at the first hurdle you shouldn't give up. Like,
for example, Oppenheimer, right, he was trying to make a
nuclear bomb. If he'd given up after the first mistake,
(06:33):
we never would have had it. Driving the barriers are
parenting to make sure that we have these breakthrough it
will work. It didn't work on this trip, but it's
important for me not to give up.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
All right.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Well, speaking of pushing the boundaries and pushing the hurdles.
On the flat home, which Matt also booked, he booked
three seats together and one of them solo.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
And let's all have a guess which parents sat solo.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Not a shock, Matt, Thank you for l heroes where Cape, thank.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
You for do you can't just wrap me up?
Speaker 6 (07:04):
I just did well, Laura.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
It is that time of year again where Australia has
the version of the Oscars. It is Gold Logi nomination time.
The nominations have come out and do you know what,
the women are absolutely cleaning up.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
There's only one bloke.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
I think Hamish Blake is not surprising.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
I know, I mean he's going to be literally dying.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
There's going to be one male who makes it into
the Logi nomination who direct.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
It's going to be Hamish Blake.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
But there's so many incredible women that have been nominated,
but one I'm very excited about TV Legend, TV veteran.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
I was in the jungle with her.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
She has hosted I'm a Celebrity to Get Me out
of Here eleven times. She has been nominated for a
Gold Logi four times.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
And for some reason, is yet to win. We're going
to try and change that. Julia Morris, Welcome.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
To the show.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Well.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
I couldn't be more thrilled to be here with you,
glorious humans.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
Julia.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
We are hard on the campaign trail for you this year.
We are so behind you. I thought you were a
shoeing last year that this year. It is twenty twenty five,
it is the year of Julia Morris.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Surely it's the year of the old male. Oh my god.
Everyone's saying, what's the campaigning going to be? Like, I'm like,
I can barely like feed compass for the pick up
and drop off. I do not know that I'm up campaigning.
You feel like a knucklehead campaigning. So I'm like, oh,
a friend of mine and I just as a coincidentally,
(08:26):
we're sort of whinging about how can we don't you know?
I was whinging she's not in television. I was like, hey,
com I keep sort of missing out on bits and pieces.
I know, I am hosting one of the biggest shows
in the country, so it seems a bit disingenuous. But
I'm like, you know, looking for like, what's the next
thing going to be? How do I broaden out, you know,
just to earn money to pay the org? Yeah, I
(08:47):
mean we all know. As a matter of time, everybody
loves the sound of slapping. When I released the Double d's,
it sounds like you're ad oc cob affairs, And that's
another story altogether. I have been like a complete maniac.
So the thought of now going into some weird self
promotion thing, my maid and I I said to her, right,
(09:09):
let's make a chat show in the backyard. I feel
my backyards the epick, let's make a chat show. The
first episode it's literally it's mostly out of the back
of our heads. Oh my god, it's so funny. It
just accidentally turned into a little mini internet sitcom and
it's just a couple of people who have no idea
what they're doing, and it's beyond hilarious. We've haven't been
(09:31):
doing parkour Do you.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Talk in my language?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Now?
Speaker 6 (09:34):
I do sporadic park or two? Julia?
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Sorry, do we think that this is going to shift
the dial on the votes? Are you just having a
good time in between? Like what, we've got to get the.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Votes as weidental? Well, the thing is, I thought, well,
what will end up happening is if my audience that
followed me on all my bits and pieces are chill
with me, not ramming the logos down their throats. And
so I'm hoping just the fact that I have put
some effort into making something while a massive life is
swirling around us all at all times.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Do you reckon it's going to be the biggest competition
this year? I mean, do you look at that and
figure sit there going, oh, they did this and they'd.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely deep down because you're like, you know,
you would love to take it. I would love to
be in history as one of those names. It is
a tremendous honor. I was talking to someone recently who
was in House Husbands with me, one of the ladies,
and we're saying, did you think we'd still be hustling
at this age?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
It doesn't.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
He's like no, seeing as of other industries have moved
on to either be CEO or CFO or special you
know whatever FO and so, you know, but in the
entertainment industry, everybody hustling. We're still hustling.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
Do you know what I think. I think you've got
a I think you've got a little secret.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Weapon right at your disposal. We've seen Robert Irwin take
his shirt off with seeing him.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
Everyone loves him. He's your partner in crime. Get him
amongst it, Like, I don't think it's I.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Think ed borrow and plead, and if that means stealing
your shirt to get him on your campaign trail again,
I think you've got to do it.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
I had to start processing at the beginning of his
sentence because I was just like, oh, do I need
to get out of the Andies hang on ed the snake.
I thought I'd seen enough snake, so I've got no
business with them. And yeah, maybe I'm in the Andies
in the front yard on the astro tour.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
You could do it together. We don't discriminate.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
You guys are having a very parallel experience at the
moment because he's about to start shooting Dancing with the
Stars in the US.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
And actually Sonya, Sonya's up for a LOGI as well.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
It's you're up against absolutely.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
That was the other great pleasure about it yesterday. And
when you're saying like you do, do you eye up
the competition? I mean we're all laughy you what six
women nominated? One man takes its stop that also, HAMI like,
please please nobody vote for me, And I was like, mate,
(11:54):
you know, get your game on. None of us want
to handed it to us. And let me tell you,
every single person on that stage, if they talk it
you go worthy winner though, Yeah, worthy winner.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yes, Julia, we are and so so have your back
on this.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
We can't wait to see you up there on stage.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
Oh my goodness. Well, let me tell you the speech
would be unbridled because I've got a feeling the vibe
as would have worn off like hours before, so I
would be and so the h I gets very scared
of you know, around that five to eleven at night,
you're like, oh, that's Mummy's witching hour.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
That and that's when you're that's when you're well around
There is to vote just for that to see it,
I'll be like, level, yeah, I've even told my haters,
am I.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
From what I've observed with the Gold Logi, you sort
of then down disappeared not long after that. So you're like, well,
his thing. If you hate me, you can make me
go away by giving me this goal LOGI.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
There's both sides. You can vote. Now, go and vote
for Julia Morris to.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Win the Gold Logi at the TV week logos. Everyone,
it's a TV Week logis dot com.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Dot at you.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I was something the other day now, and I say
this because my Instagram social media algorithm is one one
hundred percent pregnancy and baby related.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
At the moment, I thought even they served something like
you had a restaurant, like someone served divorce papers.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Actually I did not get served divorce papers, but it
is what we're talking about.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
It's a new theory.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
And there was an article around it, and it's called
second child divorce syndrome. Now it's all around when as
a couple you go from having one kids to two
kids and the additional stress that that puts on your
relationship with your partner. I mean, when I reflect back
on when we brought Lola into the world, and yes
it was COVID and she was like we had our
(13:41):
kids really close together, I was so deeply unprepared for
how much going from one to two that transition was
going to be so so hard for me. And I
think because Matt and I had already had one kid,
and having Marley, she was.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
She was an easy child.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Yeah, what I realized now is that we had like
a unicorn baby.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
She slept well, she ate well, she was a relatively
easy baby, and it made us feel so cocky and
secure that we were like.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Oh my god, we've got this thing down, cake, Let's
have a second one. And so we had Lola really
shortly afterwards.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
They're only about nineteen twenty months apart, and going from
one to two was by far the hardest transition that
I've ever made in my adult life in any way
and any capacity. I mean, when I think about work
transitions or starting new jobs, or starting new relationships or
going through breakups. One to two kids absolutely knocked me sideways.
(14:34):
And it was trying to juggle two babies at two
different schedules.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
It was the sleep.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
It's also the pressure it puts in your relationship because
you no longer have time for the relationship and the
same capacity that you did earlier.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
And on top of that, Lola wasn't necessarily the easiest baby.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah, she was a really tricky baby and didn't sleep
well and there was a lot of crying, and I
felt constantly touched out and exhausted because she would only
sleep on me, so I had to have her in
a carrier, sitting up in bed with two pillows prop
behind me. And that's how I slept for six weeks,
just sitting upright in my bed. And whenever I have
friends who we're talking about having kids or they're in
(15:10):
that sort of like the absolute trenches of the early
years of parenting, I always say, don't make any decisions
about your relationship when you're in those trenches, because something
that feels completely permanent, like little being in that phase
of little kids, when it's all consuming and how hard
it can be on your relationship. Sometimes people make very
(15:31):
permanent decisions around a time that is not permanent. And
I say that because now that our kids are five
years and four years, I kind of feel like I
finally have a handle on it and it's so much easier,
and Matt and I have so much more time for
each other and where.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
You decide to have a third one, I we're in
such a better space.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
But I think because now I understand how short lived
that time is, that absolute pressure cooker of having little kids,
is that it makes me feel a little bit better
about the fact that, like we're all on the same page,
all right, eighteen months, it's going to be really really hard,
and then we're going to slowly come out and like
come up for air again, and we're just kind of
I think we're a little bit more prepared for the
impact it's going to have this time.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Yeah, yeah, rather than taking it and thinking, oh, it's doomsday.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
But what's the theory.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Well, the theory is around how a lot of relationships
break down in that period of going from one to
two kids and how it has like some people feel
as though it has this irreparable effect on their relationship
that they can't get over.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
To be fair, I mean, I remember talking to my
parents about this. My mum and dad had been married
nearly fifty years and they've had four kids, and we're
all really close.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
I remember them saying the same thing.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
It's like, you feel like you're never going to get
out of it, and you feel like you're never going
to be able to afford things again, you're never going
to have time for each other again, you never whatever,
you're never going to sleep properly again. And all of
a sudden, the light lifts and then you're like, oh, Okay,
the best years of my life were actually going to
come after this because we stuck it through together and
didn't make those decisions when you're in the depths of despair.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
And I think that maybe there's a bit of a misconception.
And I know everyone's parenting experience is different, but I
do think that there's a bit of a misconception that're
going from nothing to one is the hardest transition, because
you go from not knowing what it's like to having
kids to having a baby that you've got to care for.
But I think for a lot of people that's actually
the going from one kid to two kids. That's the
hardest transition because you think you're prepared, you think you
(17:18):
have it down pat and actually it really I mean
at least for us, and if anyone else has experienced it,
it completely knocked us sideways. And so I do feel
as though I'm going into number three a little bit
more realistic.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
So do you think about how hard it's going to be?
Speaker 6 (17:33):
Would you think number three is going to be easier
because you like, do you think it's the opposite, Like
two's harder than trees? Easier because the kid's older, You've
done it, you know it inside out.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
I Am not going to allow myself to lull myself
into the false like I'm not having any defenses, Laura,
I will not have the security so I have.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I've if anything, I think I've over prepared myself for
how hard it's going to be. That I'm hoping I'll
be pleasantly surprised or at least it will meet my expectations.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
Have the bar so long on the ground. There's only
one way.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
So we make it sound terrible. Being a mom is amazing,
It really is. That's why we all go back and
do it again.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
All right, let's get out of here. That is asked
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Good Pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura Burn.
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Brady, your work, our windows down, that's my worldris in
the dust, only good zabs all down.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
I've done much, but yeah I'm not. I'll big get
and what I want.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
It don't matter where.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
This is the pickup. Happy hum day afternoon everyone. It
is the pick Up with Britt Hockley and Laura Burn.
Speaker 6 (00:43):
Are you feeling this fine Wednesday?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Laura, I mean I'm feeling good now. We had a
little bit of a setback this week.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
We had. I say we because I do.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Think that when your kids are in kindergarten and they
have assignments, Jew, that it also kind of falls on
the parent as well.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Like it's like we had an assignment, Jew.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
No kindergartener is doing assignments on their own. Everything is
the parent.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
But also like, I don't know how a lot of
parents have time for the homework part of school. And
I say this because if your kids are going to
after school care and they don't finish school until five o'clock,
my kids are in bed at six thirty. Yeah, they
got to come home, they got to eat dinner, and
then they're in bed. We were a little bit late
for Marley's first school project.
Speaker 6 (01:24):
What is a little bit late?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
We were a week late, oh, getting the first project in.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
It's okay. We got an extension. It was extension on.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Your first project when you're in kidd That is wild.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
And it was on her favorite number, which is number six. Okay, yeah,
is that because she's six?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Well, she turned six tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
It's her birthday, so she wanted to maybe she wanted
to delay it so it was within her birthday week,
so it made a bit more sense.
Speaker 6 (01:47):
Do you know what. I don't have children, but I
think school are two lax these days.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Back in my day, if you had just signed MAC children, No,
we don't recommend it used to tie.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
Us up to the chairs. If you had an assignment juke.
It was juke like you would lose points every day.
It wasn't du because it taught you like discipline and
structure and that you know, you can't just run your
own race.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
No, but also it's our fault. I'm not going to
blame a six year old for that. It is our
fault that it hasn't been submitted. But also we were
away for your wedding. That's my fault, it's your fault,
your wedding, and so she was overseas and that's why
it got delayed. But she's just when it comes to homework.
She's really smart, she's doing so well, but she is
not motivated to get the homework side.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Of things done.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I remember being in kindergarten and going to my first
interview with our school principal and.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
He had this big wooden desk.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I don't think he ever used it, but he just
had a cane on display, like in a holder on.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
His desk to subtle flex just I don't have to
use it, but you know it's there and I don't
have to say anything about it.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
School has definitely changed and it's definitely not a bad thing.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
All right, Well, everyone put your books out for Marley May.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Now recently we traveled over to Bali for your wedding.
We did, we did, and wonderful it really was.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Do you know what was in a highlight though, Matt
trying to out my wedding before I had it.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
That was away a light for you.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
While speaking of my husband, No, the hardest part of
traveling international when you have kids is the travel part, right,
It's the booking the flights, it's getting them to the airport.
But one thing that I think we don't consider enough
is the seat orientation, Like what is the best seat
selection when you were either traveling as a solo parent
with your kids and like Matt had to come over
(03:25):
by himself. So my husband, Matt, he flew over with
our two girls. Yeah, completely solo. He put up on
his Instagram that he was tempted to try a new
seating arrangement.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Now, keep in mind, we've got a five year old
and a four year old.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
They're still really young and they're at an age where
they need to be supervised on a flight.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
But what Matt wanted.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
To book and what he ended up booking, was the
girls sitting completely by themselves on the window seat and
him sitting completely by himself on the aisle seat.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Now I thought that this sounded like absolute madness.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I'm like, if you're traveling with kids, and I've done
a few international flights with our kids by myself, and
I've always sat next to them in the middle, like
contain them, sit between them and they're fighting, you can
pass out the snacks like you're there and you're ready
to supervise.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
Why would you have not sat with them? Was only
two seats in the aisle, not three?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I don't know none of those options for three as well.
You could have sat it could have sat in the
middle of the kids.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Now, we had a bit of a debate about this,
and I have him on the line because I'm still
confused as to how he thought or maybe still thinks
that this is the way to go and that this
is what parents should be doing for the.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Solution of how to travel with kids.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
All right, how long? Jerry Springer mat Hello, my darling.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Hello lady? How are we.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Were very well, probably better than you after flying Soli
by yourself.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
What was your reasoning behind this?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Firstly, well, I like to think of this trip as
a scientific experiment. I'm trying to make breakthroughs to the
industry of parenting. It's a selfless act for me.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
What I do want to say, though, is I was
shocked by how many people on your socials were saying
that it was a good idea, that they tried this,
and they actually thought it was.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
But it was the secret source.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
You could have all sat together, though that's the question.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yes, very good question, Brutin. I'm glad you asked it.
I thought what I was trying to achieve here is
the fact that we have two kids, Miley and Lala.
They are now four and five, for reference, old enough
to talk after themselves, all right, and so I, yes, old.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Enough to look after themselves.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Four their self contained. And I just thought it would
be nice on a six and a half hour flight
by myself as a solo parent. May I add, Laura,
I hope you're enjoying your mocktails by the pool. I
just it it'd be nice to have some reprieve from
the kids. Like I can watch my movie, they can
watch their movie. They're happy, I'm happy, everybody has a
great time.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I do have a question here, then, So I know
that Laura was enjoying her cocktail mockshow mockow she's pregnant.
But what about how just a couple of months ago
she traveled twenty seven hours alone with the kids to
South Africa while you'd been away in the jungle for
a month.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
You know what, we made that trip a lot better
if she had separated herself from the children.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I think, Look, maybe you're onto something. I feel like
this is genius for the parent and terrible for everyone
who's sitting around. The children want it that way.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Did it work?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Look, I'll be honest, it didn't work as well as
I thought it would have because the kids didn't sleep.
If they would have slept, it would have been a
lot better. But I just think it's really important to
say that at the first hurdle you shouldn't give up. Like,
for example, Oppenheimer, right, he was trying to make a
nuclear bomb. If he'd given up after the first mistake,
(06:33):
we never would have had it. Driving the barriers are
parenting to make sure that we have these breakthrough it
will work. It didn't work on this trip, but it's
important for me not to give up.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
All right.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Well, speaking of pushing the boundaries and pushing the hurdles.
On the flat home, which Matt also booked, he booked
three seats together and one of them solo.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
And let's all have a guess which parents sat solo.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Not a shock, Matt, Thank you for l heroes where Cape, thank.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
You for do you can't just wrap me up?
Speaker 6 (07:04):
I just did well, Laura.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
It is that time of year again where Australia has
the version of the Oscars. It is Gold Logi nomination time.
The nominations have come out and do you know what,
the women are absolutely cleaning up.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
There's only one bloke.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
I think Hamish Blake is not surprising.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
I know, I mean he's going to be literally dying.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
There's going to be one male who makes it into
the Logi nomination who direct.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
It's going to be Hamish Blake.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
But there's so many incredible women that have been nominated,
but one I'm very excited about TV Legend, TV veteran.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
I was in the jungle with her.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
She has hosted I'm a Celebrity to Get Me out
of Here eleven times. She has been nominated for a
Gold Logi four times.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
And for some reason, is yet to win. We're going
to try and change that. Julia Morris, Welcome.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
To the show.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Well.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
I couldn't be more thrilled to be here with you,
glorious humans.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
Julia.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
We are hard on the campaign trail for you this year.
We are so behind you. I thought you were a
shoeing last year that this year. It is twenty twenty five,
it is the year of Julia Morris.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Surely it's the year of the old male. Oh my god.
Everyone's saying, what's the campaigning going to be? Like, I'm like,
I can barely like feed compass for the pick up
and drop off. I do not know that I'm up campaigning.
You feel like a knucklehead campaigning. So I'm like, oh,
a friend of mine and I just as a coincidentally,
(08:26):
we're sort of whinging about how can we don't you know?
I was whinging she's not in television. I was like, hey,
com I keep sort of missing out on bits and pieces.
I know, I am hosting one of the biggest shows
in the country, so it seems a bit disingenuous. But
I'm like, you know, looking for like, what's the next
thing going to be? How do I broaden out, you know,
just to earn money to pay the org? Yeah, I
(08:47):
mean we all know. As a matter of time, everybody
loves the sound of slapping. When I released the Double d's,
it sounds like you're ad oc cob affairs, And that's
another story altogether. I have been like a complete maniac.
So the thought of now going into some weird self
promotion thing, my maid and I I said to her, right,
(09:09):
let's make a chat show in the backyard. I feel
my backyards the epick, let's make a chat show. The
first episode it's literally it's mostly out of the back
of our heads. Oh my god, it's so funny. It
just accidentally turned into a little mini internet sitcom and
it's just a couple of people who have no idea
what they're doing, and it's beyond hilarious. We've haven't been
(09:31):
doing parkour Do you.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Talk in my language?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Now?
Speaker 6 (09:34):
I do sporadic park or two? Julia?
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Sorry, do we think that this is going to shift
the dial on the votes? Are you just having a
good time in between? Like what, we've got to get the.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Votes as weidental? Well, the thing is, I thought, well,
what will end up happening is if my audience that
followed me on all my bits and pieces are chill
with me, not ramming the logos down their throats. And
so I'm hoping just the fact that I have put
some effort into making something while a massive life is
swirling around us all at all times.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Do you reckon it's going to be the biggest competition
this year? I mean, do you look at that and
figure sit there going, oh, they did this and they'd.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely deep down because you're like, you know,
you would love to take it. I would love to
be in history as one of those names. It is
a tremendous honor. I was talking to someone recently who
was in House Husbands with me, one of the ladies,
and we're saying, did you think we'd still be hustling
at this age?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
It doesn't.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
He's like no, seeing as of other industries have moved
on to either be CEO or CFO or special you
know whatever FO and so, you know, but in the
entertainment industry, everybody hustling. We're still hustling.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
Do you know what I think. I think you've got
a I think you've got a little secret.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Weapon right at your disposal. We've seen Robert Irwin take
his shirt off with seeing him.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
Everyone loves him. He's your partner in crime. Get him
amongst it, Like, I don't think it's I.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Think ed borrow and plead, and if that means stealing
your shirt to get him on your campaign trail again,
I think you've got to do it.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
I had to start processing at the beginning of his
sentence because I was just like, oh, do I need
to get out of the Andies hang on ed the snake.
I thought I'd seen enough snake, so I've got no
business with them. And yeah, maybe I'm in the Andies
in the front yard on the astro tour.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
You could do it together. We don't discriminate.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
You guys are having a very parallel experience at the
moment because he's about to start shooting Dancing with the
Stars in the US.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
And actually Sonya, Sonya's up for a LOGI as well.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
It's you're up against absolutely.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
That was the other great pleasure about it yesterday. And
when you're saying like you do, do you eye up
the competition? I mean we're all laughy you what six
women nominated? One man takes its stop that also, HAMI like,
please please nobody vote for me, And I was like, mate,
(11:54):
you know, get your game on. None of us want
to handed it to us. And let me tell you,
every single person on that stage, if they talk it
you go worthy winner though, Yeah, worthy winner.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yes, Julia, we are and so so have your back
on this.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
We can't wait to see you up there on stage.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
Oh my goodness. Well, let me tell you the speech
would be unbridled because I've got a feeling the vibe
as would have worn off like hours before, so I
would be and so the h I gets very scared
of you know, around that five to eleven at night,
you're like, oh, that's Mummy's witching hour.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
That and that's when you're that's when you're well around
There is to vote just for that to see it,
I'll be like, level, yeah, I've even told my haters,
am I.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
From what I've observed with the Gold Logi, you sort
of then down disappeared not long after that. So you're like, well,
his thing. If you hate me, you can make me
go away by giving me this goal LOGI.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
There's both sides. You can vote. Now, go and vote
for Julia Morris to.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Win the Gold Logi at the TV week logos. Everyone,
it's a TV Week logis dot com.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Dot at you.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I was something the other day now, and I say
this because my Instagram social media algorithm is one one
hundred percent pregnancy and baby related.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
At the moment, I thought even they served something like
you had a restaurant, like someone served divorce papers.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Actually I did not get served divorce papers, but it
is what we're talking about.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
It's a new theory.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
And there was an article around it, and it's called
second child divorce syndrome. Now it's all around when as
a couple you go from having one kids to two
kids and the additional stress that that puts on your
relationship with your partner. I mean, when I reflect back
on when we brought Lola into the world, and yes
it was COVID and she was like we had our
(13:41):
kids really close together, I was so deeply unprepared for
how much going from one to two that transition was
going to be so so hard for me. And I
think because Matt and I had already had one kid,
and having Marley, she was.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
She was an easy child.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Yeah, what I realized now is that we had like
a unicorn baby.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
She slept well, she ate well, she was a relatively
easy baby, and it made us feel so cocky and
secure that we were like.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Oh my god, we've got this thing down, cake, Let's
have a second one. And so we had Lola really
shortly afterwards.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
They're only about nineteen twenty months apart, and going from
one to two was by far the hardest transition that
I've ever made in my adult life in any way
and any capacity. I mean, when I think about work
transitions or starting new jobs, or starting new relationships or
going through breakups. One to two kids absolutely knocked me sideways.
(14:34):
And it was trying to juggle two babies at two
different schedules.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
It was the sleep.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
It's also the pressure it puts in your relationship because
you no longer have time for the relationship and the
same capacity that you did earlier.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
And on top of that, Lola wasn't necessarily the easiest baby.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah, she was a really tricky baby and didn't sleep
well and there was a lot of crying, and I
felt constantly touched out and exhausted because she would only
sleep on me, so I had to have her in
a carrier, sitting up in bed with two pillows prop
behind me. And that's how I slept for six weeks,
just sitting upright in my bed. And whenever I have
friends who we're talking about having kids or they're in
(15:10):
that sort of like the absolute trenches of the early
years of parenting, I always say, don't make any decisions
about your relationship when you're in those trenches, because something
that feels completely permanent, like little being in that phase
of little kids, when it's all consuming and how hard
it can be on your relationship. Sometimes people make very
(15:31):
permanent decisions around a time that is not permanent. And
I say that because now that our kids are five
years and four years, I kind of feel like I
finally have a handle on it and it's so much easier,
and Matt and I have so much more time for
each other and where.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
You decide to have a third one, I we're in
such a better space.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
But I think because now I understand how short lived
that time is, that absolute pressure cooker of having little kids,
is that it makes me feel a little bit better
about the fact that, like we're all on the same page,
all right, eighteen months, it's going to be really really hard,
and then we're going to slowly come out and like
come up for air again, and we're just kind of
I think we're a little bit more prepared for the
impact it's going to have this time.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Yeah, yeah, rather than taking it and thinking, oh, it's doomsday.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
But what's the theory.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Well, the theory is around how a lot of relationships
break down in that period of going from one to
two kids and how it has like some people feel
as though it has this irreparable effect on their relationship
that they can't get over.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
To be fair, I mean, I remember talking to my
parents about this. My mum and dad had been married
nearly fifty years and they've had four kids, and we're
all really close.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
I remember them saying the same thing.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
It's like, you feel like you're never going to get
out of it, and you feel like you're never going
to be able to afford things again, you're never going
to have time for each other again, you never whatever,
you're never going to sleep properly again. And all of
a sudden, the light lifts and then you're like, oh, Okay,
the best years of my life were actually going to
come after this because we stuck it through together and
didn't make those decisions when you're in the depths of despair.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
And I think that maybe there's a bit of a misconception.
And I know everyone's parenting experience is different, but I
do think that there's a bit of a misconception that're
going from nothing to one is the hardest transition, because
you go from not knowing what it's like to having
kids to having a baby that you've got to care for.
But I think for a lot of people that's actually
the going from one kid to two kids. That's the
hardest transition because you think you're prepared, you think you
(17:18):
have it down pat and actually it really I mean
at least for us, and if anyone else has experienced it,
it completely knocked us sideways. And so I do feel
as though I'm going into number three a little bit
more realistic.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
So do you think about how hard it's going to be?
Speaker 6 (17:33):
Would you think number three is going to be easier
because you like, do you think it's the opposite, Like
two's harder than trees? Easier because the kid's older, You've
done it, you know it inside out.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
I Am not going to allow myself to lull myself
into the false like I'm not having any defenses, Laura,
I will not have the security so I have.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I've if anything, I think I've over prepared myself for
how hard it's going to be. That I'm hoping I'll
be pleasantly surprised or at least it will meet my expectations.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
Have the bar so long on the ground. There's only
one way.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
So we make it sound terrible. Being a mom is amazing,
It really is. That's why we all go back and
do it again.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
All right, let's get out of here. That is asked
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