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September 17, 2025 • 16 mins

Britt is obsessed with The Summer I Turned Pretty, we are MAD about the mum that got kicked out of a lounge for breastfeeding and there is drama in the Stone Skipping Community. 

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
Dog all down.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
I don't much, but yeah, I know I'll big get
and what I want.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
It don't matter where that does. This is the pickup.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Happy hump day everyone, It's the pickup we Bred Hockley
and Laura Ben.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
I don't want to get into it too quickly because
I want to talk about it later. But it's a
great Wednesday. It is the final of the Summer I
Turned Pretty.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
I'm not convinced that anyone else is watching this.

Speaker 5 (00:53):
It's number one in the world. This is Laura, You're
the only one not watching.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
I thought the number one on the world was K
pop Deven Hunters.

Speaker 5 (00:59):
That's old news.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
The summer I Turned Pretty, the love triangle between two
brothers and a teenage girl sounds like this is sponsored.

Speaker 5 (01:05):
It's not the world.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
I actually wish it was sponsored, because Britty talks about
it so much.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
We get some kick back.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Well, I won't talk about it after maybe one more day.
But I won't talk about to time.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Well, look, I mean, if you are someone who was
into the summer, I turned pretty We are talking about
it next, because even though I tried to beat all it,
Britt said, no, you.

Speaker 5 (01:19):
Know what I think you could do.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
Laura, I will watch it, but you're about to have
a baby, and I reckon, there'll be some long nights
where you might be up and she's on your booby
and she's not sleeping.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
Throw it on, just watch it in the background, I reckon.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
I'm gonna watch it in the hospital. You've talked about
it enough. I think it's given me my Netflix watch.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
You won't be in the hospital that long. There's three seasons,
but if you can.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Go for it, I want to say, there for as
long as possible.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Okay, Well, I just want I just want to talk
about it next if we can, if you'll allow it,
and then I almost will promise you that I'll never
speak about it again.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
Laura, this might go a little bit rogue.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Would you say it's radio gone row, Yeah, let's.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
Call it Rady gone rogue.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
I just want to talk to about something that we
haven't prepared and you haven't seen or watched or know
nothing about.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Dear gott. I love how proach we are for this.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
It's my show, so I get to decide what I
want to talk about. And this has been eating me
up alive. I know there are so many women in
the car right now feel exactly the same way I feel.
I need to talk about the finale, this evening of
the Summer I Turned Pretty?

Speaker 5 (02:15):
So what was the show?

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Why are people obsessed with it? I don't get it?

Speaker 5 (02:18):
So I am.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
Really late to the party. So this is it's called
The Summer Turned Pretty. There's three seasons and it started
I think in twenty twenty one, like it's been around
for quite a while.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
But season three, which will be the.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Wrap of this series, I don't foresee coming back.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
This is the end.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
I had seen it over the years, all this hype.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
And I always knew it was like this teenage love
kind of vibe.

Speaker 5 (02:39):
So I never clicked on it. You know when you
go online and you see it pops up like I
suggest this it's number one.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
I was like, oh, teenage love story. Yeah, like the kids,
But who is actually four?

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Because you've been telling me that the people who are
watching it are not kids, it's people our age.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Oh, I think the biggest demo is mid to early
to late thirties, which is our demo.

Speaker 5 (02:57):
Thirties, forties, fifties.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
I'm getting like so many messages from people because I'm
talking about it a lot on Instagram. So I watched
a couple of episodes of season one. I was like,
let me see what the fuss is about. I ran
out of things to watch, and I amo, it is
the cringiest thing you've ever seen. Like they're sixteen years
old and it's like this love trying. I'm not going
to give too much away, but nothing you don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
It's nothing about me being almost forty that makes me
want to watch sixteen year olds falling in love Lauren.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
It' just does it. It's like watching Dawson's Creek again.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
Famous last words. And I think that that's the thing, right.
So I've been trying to work.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Out why as women in thirties, fours and fifties, we're
so obsessed because this is like it's a phenomenon. You
need to watch it just so we can talk about it.
But I think that's what it is. I think it's
taking us back to like those early two thousands moments
when we were in.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
The thick of it, like the Dawson's.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Creek and nostalgia.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
Yeah, I think it's like taking us back to the
nostalgia and I don't know, it's do.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
You remember the OC, Yes, it's that. I loved the OC,
but this is Misha Barton. I wanted to be her.

Speaker 5 (03:55):
No, this is more innocent than that.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Like you know, on the OC, they were like pretty annoydy,
and this is like so wholesome. I've never seen anything
where I'm like cringing, crying and laughing, wanting to turn off,
but not being able to stop watching like all at
the same time.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Maybe this has because I feel like a lot of
shows these days have been made for kids, but also
they're palatable for adults.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
And I say this because.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
My kids are currently obsessed with K pop Demon Hunters.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
I'm talking obsessed, like it is another level.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Marley May had to do a speech at school impromptu
not impromptu, sorry, but like pick any topic.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Prompt you she's five, They're like ad lib.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
No, she did have to do an impromptu speech. It's
part of her public speaking competition, but that this one
wasn't the impromptu speech. The impromptu one was what is
better playing outside? Or inside, So.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
She got to pick anything. What did she pick? Outside?

Speaker 1 (04:40):
She said outside play anyway, So she chose why k
Pop Demon Hunters is the best movie of all time.
And at the first seven times the kids watched, I.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Was like, oh God, I need to go again.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
That's like the equivalent and going to karaokeing trying to
see Whitney Houston is very it's very.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Full on the But now let the kids aren't in
the car and I'm pumping Golden because I'm into it.
We're playing it on the radio at the moment, like
it's taken over.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
It's exactly the same thing. Now, I have never seen
k pop. Demon hunter is out brit It's.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
The number one most downloaded down load and watch the
Netflix show ever created.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
Yeah, well this is the number one TV show, So
I'll watch that if you watch this.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
But I need someone to talk about it with, which
is why I'm talking about it to no one right
now on radio, Like I need you to be able
to contribute to the conversation.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Well, I mean, I think you're right and saying it
probably taps into nostalgia, like it taps into like the
childhood moments of like everyone remembers their first love. Everyone
remembers those complex feelings around navigating relationships when you're in
your early teens and twenties and whatever it is.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
I reckon that The Summer Return Pretty has a bigger
demo that are in their late late twenties thirties, forties
than they do of kids the same age, because I
reckon teenagers would watch it and not relate because I
think it's cringey, Like I think the teenagers now are
so grown.

Speaker 5 (05:48):
Up and so cool. I don't know. This is based
on nothing.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
It's just calling us millennial losers who want to watch it.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
Yeah, I am, I am.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Right, You're doing nothing for the cause, Bridge.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
But anyway, the last thing I want to say, because
the final is tonight, so everyone is on the edge
of their seat.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Are they? Though no one knows what you're talking about.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
Everyone knows, Laura, only you don't know.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
But it's like down to two people, so it's always
are you team Conrad or Tim Jeremiah, and like you
have to pick your team and the world is divided
and that's.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Why it's so good. Okay, I'll leave, Okay, I'll stop.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
I was scrolling on Instagram yesterday and I came across
something that made me absolutely irate, and within five minutes
of me seeing it, News dot com had also then
written an article about it.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't think I was
just scrolling Instagram. It's everywhere.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
No, it is now, it is now.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
But when I saw it early in the day, it
spread like wildfire online. Basically, just to bring you up
speed if you haven't seen this, there's a doctor. Her
name is doctor Turner, and she posted from the airport.
She had been in the Virgin Lounge, the Virgin Business Lounge,
and she had very discreetly put a breast pump underneath
her shirt and she was expressing milk while she was

(06:57):
sitting in the lounge.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Now we've got.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Some audio which is what she posted around how she
was asked by the business lounge manager to leave because
it was making people uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Have listened to this, so this is.

Speaker 6 (07:09):
Pretty unbelievable and I'm beyond.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Furious right now.

Speaker 6 (07:13):
But I've been told that I can't sit here in
the Virgin Lounge as a paying business class tick a
polder to express breast milk that sits under my shirt
like this, Because this is.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
A private business lounge, and we don't do that here.

Speaker 6 (07:29):
So I've been told by the manager and that I
must go and sit in.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
A bathroom in a toilet.

Speaker 6 (07:35):
So I did ask her, do you prepare your own
dinner and a shared bathroom, a public bathroom or a
public toilet?

Speaker 3 (07:40):
And shouldn't have an answer for that?

Speaker 1 (07:43):
I honestly can't in this day and age, especially just
pumping milk. It is so discreet the equipment for pumping
milk now, it just goes under your shirt.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
It also doesn't matter if it's discreet or not. It's
a part of being a woman and creating life, I know.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
And also I think because I'm so close to giving birth,
I was like, we must riot.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
I was so angry.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
I don't know many women that are not absolutely raging
right now.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
And I tried to think what would do in this situation.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
I just wouldn't move.

Speaker 5 (08:09):
I'd say, drag me out of here. What are you
going to do?

Speaker 4 (08:12):
I'm not going to get up and leave because you
are uncomfortable with me expressing milk under my shirt.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Well, I went down a rabbit hole, right because I
honestly couldn't believe that this was the case, and I
do want to preface this. Virgin has come out and apologize,
and this does not follow their procedures and their standards.
I think that the employee took it upon themselves because
they felt uncomfortable and they maybe made assumptions that were very,
very very incorrect.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
It is not a direct reflection of the way Virgin
thinks and feels. No.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
But the thing is so doctor Turner. She obviously she
posted that on socials. She got so many messages from
people who were so angry for her in the same way.
And so what she did is she went back into
the Virgin lounge because she had received, like you know,
people saying under the nineteen eighty four discrimination ads like
breastfeeding mothers are protected, et cetera, et cetera. So she
walked back into the Virgin lounge. She speaks to the person,

(09:03):
the manager, and she says, actually, you can't kick me
out of here. There's a discriminator Act that actually protects
me and my rights to breastfeed or to pump milk
as a necessity, and you can't kick me out. And
the manager had the audacity to turn around and say,
you're making other people and myself uncomfortable by you expressing
this milk.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
I'd say you need to leave, you leave them.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
I honestly can't believe that in twenty twenty five, we
are still shaming women who are breastfeeding their kids or
expressing milk to.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Breastfeed their kids.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
It is hard enough to find a comfortable and safe place.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
If you are someone who's decided to.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Express milk like it is, you already feel self conscious
about it enough.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Most people try and do it discreetly.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
So to be singled out and told that you've got
to leave and go and do it somewhere because you're
embarrassing people or you're making them uncomfortable, it's so deeply infuriating.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
Yeah, but it doesn't shock me, to be honest, that
it's happening in twenty twenty five. It doesn't shock me
because I feel like I don't want to go down
this rabbit hole. Women always get the short end of
the stick, right. It shocks me that it is happening
by another woman in a place like an airport lounge.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
It's like a business lounge. I'm sure she wasn't walking.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
Around flapping a boob around and in people's faces. She
sat down discreetly and was breastfeeding in a place that she.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Has paid for as well.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
Like it's yeah, you know, I just think and the
fact that it was the shame and was brought on
by another woman is.

Speaker 5 (10:23):
Just what really grinds my gears as well.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Well, Look, Virgin did come out and they apologize, They
reached out to her directly, They apologized for it. They
said it goes against their stand high standards of care
and everything else.

Speaker 5 (10:32):
Slice for a year or yeah, well, I don't know, she's.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Got to get something for it, right, But like they
did say that they've reached out to the manager who
had made these decisions. But it's it's such a tricky
one because it comes down to two things. Either one
the staff haven't been trained appropriately on this, or two
that staff member decided to take it upon themselves to
enact their own personal views, which then so deeply impacts
that company and impacts Virgin. And I just think in

(10:54):
these instances, there is so much information now that is
out there around the right and wrong way to deal
with breastfeeding mothers and the inclusion of it and how
it shouldn't be a big deal that it is so
bizarre to me that something like this could slip through
the cracks.

Speaker 5 (11:10):
Guys, let them breastfeed. There's not a right and wrong
way to do it.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Into every breath.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
I'm going into every Virgin lounge and I'm going to
get my boob out and see what people say.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
In the next few weeks, I'm not breastfeeding, but I'm
going to do it too.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
I'm gonna go overround and get my boobs up and
see what they say.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Do you know what happens?

Speaker 1 (11:24):
The male patrons of Virgin really skyrocketed in the month
of September when brit started getting a boom out.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
Laura.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
I don't know if you've you've seen this, but I
love to go down a rabbit hole, and I have
gone down this rabbit hole. There is a huge scandal
that is rocking the sporting world right now.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Sore into your sports, Britt.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
I am into my sports and I'm into like doping
scandals and cheating, Like I love to know what who's
cheating in what sports and how are they doing it?

Speaker 3 (11:50):
You know, you hear.

Speaker 5 (11:51):
About it all the time.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
Well, there's a big cheating scandal in a current world championships. Now,
this is the World rock Skimming Championship.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
No, this is not a real sport.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
It also it kind of reminds me what we talked
about last week with the Guinness World Record the woman
set for running over lego.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
Okay, so I did not know that this was a thing,
but it is.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
Two two hundred people from twenty seven countries have gone
to this tiny island off of Scotland for this competition.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Is it because the water is particularly flat there?

Speaker 5 (12:20):
Like?

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Is it perfect water tension for rock skimming? Is there
a reason why they would go there to that destination.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
I didn't go that deep, but living Scotland and it
does have a lot of flat bays and.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
Stuff, so that could be perfect conditions.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Now, one thing I didn't know, so amos. I'm a
skimmer by trade. I like to skim when I'm at
the beach. So this competition has courses and stuff. You
don't just skim in a straight line.

Speaker 5 (12:44):
I want you to just have a listen. Let someone
else explain it. That is so deep in this world.

Speaker 7 (12:49):
There's a little circuit of competitions and it's basically a
group of people coming together to skim stones across different
bodies of water. I guess it's a bit like F
one in terms of different courses. It's not implements because
each competition has got its own set of rules.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
It's a bit like the F one.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Did she just relate skimming rocks in a lake to
the one?

Speaker 5 (13:09):
Also?

Speaker 3 (13:10):
This is for me.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
This is just such clear proof that because of the Internet,
you can find your people in anything like It doesn't
matter what you believe in, there will be a community
somewhere that you will be able to find.

Speaker 5 (13:20):
Well, so what is happening? I know what you're thinking.
How on earth?

Speaker 3 (13:23):
You don't know what I'm thinking right now, brit How.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
On earth did they cheat? They're not doping. But there
are some rules, right, And the rules are that you
have to as a contestant, you turn up and you
have to find naturally occurring stones and they also need
to be like a certain size. They can't be too big,
and they have to fit into this little circle.

Speaker 5 (13:40):
And there's all these rules.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
But the event organizer, doctor Kyle Matthews, who you know
within the industry is known as the toss Master. He
said that they heard some rumors and murmurings of nefarious deeds.

Speaker 5 (13:52):
Listened to this.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Unfortunately, by have very small number of competitors. They had
use some machinery to smooth the outside edge of their
stone and make it exactly perfectly round to fit through
our measurer, which is called the Ring of Truth.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Wow, I feel like we've turned into a true crime
radio show.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
I'm so glad we got to the bottom of this one.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
So what's happening is there were people were like rounding
their edges and I think I read that they were
even like putting little holes that helps with aeration into
the stone.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Did you come across this story? Was this all you?
I entered the competition, saw you, wasn't it? What are
we talking about?

Speaker 5 (14:29):
I moved to Scotland because I wanted to be the champion.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
But they're like smuggling them in their pockets and then
they were like whipping them out and that's how they're winning.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
It just shows like people will cheat at anything, Like
people will cheat at literally anything to.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Be a winner. Oh yeah, I've cheated.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
I mean nothing as insignificant as a rock skiving competition.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
I okay.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
I feel bad saying the story, not because I feel
bad for the cheating, but because the cheating actually didn't
do anything. I didn't actually use what I took in
to cheat with, so when I know, I cheated in
my HC, which is actually radio, which is actually perfectly
time because it's the like two and a half weeks
for kids out there. So back in the day, I

(15:11):
don't know how it works. Now, it's probably very different
because everyone's got iPads and laptops and whatnot. But we
got to bring in blank paper so you could bring
in like your sheets that you could do your workbooks
on them and stuff, right, but it just had to
be blank paper or lined paper. And I'm really bad
at maths, great at English, terrible at mass.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Could never remember equations cheating, really good at cheating at mass,
so I would yet to.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Remember all the different equations like x over this equals
blah blah blah, algebra. The formulas, I can't even remember
the word for them. The night before I was writing
them out and writing them out and writing them out,
and then I realized when I threw away the top paper,
they were all scored into the paper underneath that you
could see in a certain angle you could see the
formula scored into the clean piece of paper, And I

(15:55):
was like, I might just take that in with me,
and I did.

Speaker 5 (15:58):
Happened so organically you thought, I like, it literally.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Fell into my lap, and see did even know? And
I took it in and I still felt so so
did you? I didn't, but I didn't do well at
maast You know about that question.

Speaker 5 (16:10):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
I was never going to get into any doing any
sciences at UNI.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
Don't worry any kids listening that are going into the
HSC absolutely do not do that.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
We did not endorse you.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
But if you do want to mechanically grind down your stones,
go for gold.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
I don't think anyone's going to care anyway. Guys, that
is it from us
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