July 30, 2025 • 17 mins
Britt & Laura unpack whether you can ethically stay friends with a person you know is cheating on their partner, Michael Theo joins the show to chat Austin and Logies and Laura has some guidelines for Britt's Book Week Battle.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hi Heart podcasts, hear more Kiss podcast playlist and listen
live on the Free iHeart app.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
A good pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura burn Baby
your what our windows downe?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
That's my worldris in the dust. Only good tabs are
all down. I don't much now, but yeah I'm not.
I'll big get and what I want.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
It don't matter where. This is the pickup.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Hi guys, Happy hump Day or end of the hump Day. Anyway,
it's the pick up with Brett Hockey and Laura burn Flies.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Why doesn't it laws Wednesday? Humpday comes around really quickly.
Speaking of hump day, who about little hump over there?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
That baby belly?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I thought you were trying to imply how the baby
belly got here? I was, yeah, that is the problem.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
I wasn't a pivoted because I was like a three PM.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
No, that's true. Yeah. Look, we're well into it now.
Thirty two weeks is what we are. So what is
that math? Eight weeks left? It's like eight weeks and
three days or something. If we're gonna get real pay.
I had to check my app because I keep forgetting,
and so every so often I have to remind myself.
I go on there and then I get a bit
frightened by the fact that it's so soon. But I was,
I was telling you this week, I feel like I'm
(01:19):
playing a game of chicken at the moment. You might
remember this Hamish nanny did it a really long time
ago where they got in a car and they drove
with no petrol to see how far they could push
it before like the petrol just run out. Oh I
remember where, Like they really stretched that content out. That's
me with getting baby stuff. So we're now eight weeks
until the babies do and I have nothing. I don't
(01:39):
have a cot to put it in. I don't have
a side pram, I don't have swaddles. I'd have a pram.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Because you've done it twice, so you're not as stress.
If it was your first one, you'd be so organized.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
But I think it's gone too far. I think I'm
too catch shuit.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Eight weeks you have plenty of time, but you need
to give some time in case it comes early, so
you need to round that down to like six weeks.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
So you probably do need to get cracking. Yeah, okay,
all right, Well, look, do you want to play the
game that we've been playing. What size fruit? Do you
think the baby's out? I just had to look it
up myself. I would go, in my experience a jackfruit.
What's a jackfruit? Oh? Yeah, I know what a jackfruit is.
I've looked at four different websites. Well, yeah, like they're
(02:20):
like posters you can buy and stuff. I've looked at
four different ones and not one of them. Do I
know what the fruit is? So this is a bit
anti climac Jackfridg's wrong. Do you know what a napa is?
Big napa lettuce or okay? Another one says that thirty
two weeks is a jacama. I don't know what any
of these is. Can we find one where.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
We actually I've got here the size of a bunch
of celery or a squash?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
No, see, a celery can be so is.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
That with the head on or head off the leaves?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Celery doesn't make sense? A celery feels like it. A
squash makes sense. Squash, let's go with that. But that's
still pretty small.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Does it do a lot of growth in the last
eight weeks? I would have thought it was like almost there.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Who knows? Like I told you, I've got no ideas
having this pregnancy other and there aren't too many topics
that get people as fired up as cheating now. Whenever
we talk about cheating on the show or on our
Life Uncut podcast, people have very strong opinions when it
comes to cheating, and I think it's because if you've
(03:20):
experienced it, you know how much it absolutely hurts every
fiber of your body to find out that your partner
has been unfaithful. It's like one of the greatest betrayals
I think you can have in a relationship. Yes, similar
to not wanting to share your food when you go
out with a partner. The one thing we don't talk
about very much is how do we feel if you
find out that your friend is cheating on their partner.
When it comes to your friendships, would you remain best
(03:42):
friends with someone or close friends with someone if you
found out that they were cheating on their partner? Have
a listen to this because there's an influencer online who
has a hot take on why they wouldn't be friends
with someone if they're a cheater.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I don't stay friends with anyone who cheats on their partner,
nor would I do business with a cheater either, because
if you can lie to the person you sleep next
to every single night, if you can look them dead
in the eye knowing that you are betraying them, And
what makes me think you wouldn't betray me given half
the chance? You see, Cheating isn't just a relationship issue,
It's a character issue.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
The reason why I want to talk about this is
because I would dare say that every single person listening
to this right now, if like, if you're of a
dating age, you know someone who's cheated, you're probably friends
with someone who's cheated. Statistically, seventy percent of couples, seventy
percent of married couples.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
You know, I would take that with a grand assualt.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
And it's a kind of everywhere online that statistic, And
obviously it's varying, but up to have experienced cheating in
their relationships, whether they know about it or not. What
do you think, Britt, do you think you can stay
friends with someone who cheats on their partner?
Speaker 4 (04:46):
I understand what this guy's saying for sure, Like, if
your friend is cheating on their partner, how would you
trust them in your relationships? You know, I understand why,
But I don't think it's a blanket statement at all.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
It does make it awkward.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Like I have known people in my life in the
past that have cheated and I knew that because they
told me, like as a friend, they can fight it,
mean whatever they were going through, And it's hard because
sometimes you do have to differentiate between what they might
be going through and why they're doing it. And I'm
not saying that to give reasons, but like, I don't
think you can just cut someone off in your life
because something has happened in their relationship. As you just said,
(05:21):
up to seventy percent of people having fidelity in their relationships. Like,
I don't think for me, I'm just going to cut
someone out of my life. But we have heard of
so many crazy stories of people writeing through our podcast
Life Uncut podcasts of friends in situations that are doing this,
And in my head, I think I could not have
that person in my life. Like if I knew how
much a friend was backstabbing someone and if their partner
(05:43):
was really good friends with me too, Like if my
day to day life was these both of these people involved,
then that's way harder to maintain.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, I definitely agree. I don't think it's black and white.
But at the same time, I would say that for
the friendships I've had where I know that one partner's cheating,
and especially it's different like if the other person doesn't
know that they're being cheated on, generous person is doing
it behind their back, and then I have found out,
it puts you in an incredibly uncomfortable situation because you
(06:11):
have to then weigh out, well, are you going to
be the person that holds the higher moral standard and
goes and tells you you're going to bring that drama
into your life. But I would say we underestimate how
much affects friendships. And for every single relationship that I've
been witnessed to where cheating has happened and they've been
friends of mine, we're no longer friends because it's kind
of just deteriorated over time. Whether that is because morals
(06:34):
don't align, or whether that is just simply because I
put distance in the friendship because it was too icky.
There was too much drama there that I didn't want
in my own life.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Well, another weird different angle or take that just popped
into my head is like, I'm just going to think
of my husband, for example, Ben, if his friends were
cheating on their partner, I wouldn't want him to be
friends with them because like, yeah, so when you look
at it in reverse, I'm like, Okay, well I don't
want that, So then it makes you reflect on your
own relationships. But I don't think it's black and white.
(07:02):
Every single situation is different.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yeah, I agree, But I do think if you ask
someone who's that conflict voidant that you can't have those
conversations with your partner and you are going behind their
back and cheating, and cheating is something that's like insidious
in that relationship, then I would dare say that maybe
that is someone who would treat you poorly if that
circumstance could present itself. I'm just still thinking about it
now in my head.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
It's actually an impossible statement to make, because if your
friend is in a really bad, toxic relationship and they're
not being treated well and they haven't been treated well
for years and whatever else is going on, and they
seek solace with someone else, that's very different to then
a friend who is treated like a princess at home
and he's constantly going out being like stuff that I'm
going to go and like, do you know what I mean,
(07:45):
the situation of whatever relationship your friend is in. All
of these things come into this equation. I think we
can just be like, oh, you cheated, I'm cutting you.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
However, for example, if I found out that you were
cheating on Ben and you were like, oh, yeah, just
you know, I can get away with it. He's overseas,
I'd be like, what the hell are you doing? Like,
who are you? You're not gonna cut me? You need me,
I mean, And besides that, I wouldn't ever do it.
I would never cheat on my husband.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I am super excited about the guests that we have
on the Pickup right now. Michael Theo. Now, a lot
of you might remember he was a bit of a
breakout star on the ABC show Love on the Spectrum
a few years ago, and that's where we were first
introduced to him. Now we've spoken to Michael a few
times on the pick Up and we've also spoken to
him on our podcast, Life Uncut podcast, so.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
We're a big fan.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
But now Michael has been nominated for a Logie for
Best Actor in a Comedy Drama in the new show
that he's in Austin. Now, Austin is like a comedy
drama on the ABC. It's an incredible show. And to
see Michael Hope from when we first met him on
our screens to now being nominated for a LOGI is
absolutely incredible.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Michael, welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Thank you ladies. It's a pleasure to be on your
show again.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I got so nice to talk to you. It's been
so long. Yeah, I remember when we interviewed you on
Life on cart would have been gosh, like maybe five
years ago now four years ago, and you said at
the time that we asked what's the next thing after
love on the spectrum for you? And you said you
really wanted to get into acting, And now not only
did you get into acting, now you're nominated for a LOGI.
(09:22):
What's it been like being in the series one so far?
And I know you guys have finished season two, Like,
what's this experience been like for you?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Loved every day of it because it was such a
wonderful project for me to work on with such amazing
people as well. Basically loved every moment of the first
season and it felt like that I was in a
different world.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
For people that might not have seen Austin yet. Can
you just tell us what it's about?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
It's about a children's book author Julian Hartswood who gets
canceled and discovers that he has a newer diverse son
named Austin, who begins to see as his path to redemption.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
One thing that I think is so amazing about this, Michael,
is like, obviously Austin, who is in the show, is neurodiverse.
How important to you is it that people, as in,
when there's a role that becomes available for someone in
an acting role where the character is neurodiverse, that it's
actually played by someone who has that in real life.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I believe it's extremely important because the portrayal is more
authentic that way, and because that character could possibly reflect
on lived experiences of the actor.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
You know what I love. I love that you had
a goal and you set out your ambition and then
you in the last few Yeah, I mean I really
I would love to dig up that audio because I
loved how much and how excited you were about the
possibility of getting into acting. I think it's just so
inspirational what you have achieved, You've got the logis this weekend.
Who are you taking to the logis with you? What
(10:57):
are you most excited about?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I'm afraid I can't take anyone.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Oh no, no date for the logies.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
No, I'm afraid not. But also if I was able
to take someone, I have taken my mother because I
promised her age ago that I would bring her because
she's been a huge supporter of this during since the
very beginning five years ago.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Well, I'm going to be there, Michael, so I'll have
to definitely say hello to you on the red carpet.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
But before we were Laura is not coming this year unfortunately. No,
I'm up for Like, that's interesting. It's okay, Michael. You
don't have to feel sorry for me. I'm just not going.
I've got nine weeks until I'm having a baby. I
didn't want to squeeze into a dress.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Hey, Michael, you you are up against your on screen
dad for the logan, Ben Miller.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yes, I like, do you feel like that's tough competition?
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Do you feel like he could win?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Could you win?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
I don't know about how tough the competition is. I
am hopeful to win the LOGI, but there's no guarantee
that it will happen. I just go to see what happens.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Who are you most excited to see at the logis
or who do you hope you bump into.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I'm most excited to see Key Flannigan because I'd love
to meet her and I love her performances in Fisk
and Utopia.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I don't know exactly who will be there, but I've
heard that Justin Clark will be there. I'm excited to
see her again and I'm hoping to make Julia Zamiro's acquaintance.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Well, Michael, we are all rooting for you. We do
hope that you win this weekend, and we're so excited
for you.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Yeah, make sure you say hey to me on the
red carpet. I'm looking forward to seeing you and I
really hope you win.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Not a problem. And also people should know that with
Austin season two, all the episodes are on iView now.
People have four days left until voting closes.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Okay, so get your voting right now if you're listening.
Thanks so much, Michael, and we're so excited for you,
and we do hope that you win, and for anyone
who wants to watch it. Season two of Austin is
now available in ABC and iView. Grit Yesterday, my daughter
Molly May came into the show, and you took on
the greatest battle of a life lifetime.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
I was gonna say the Battle of the sex It
wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Remember there was a TV show Battle on the Sexes. Yeah,
this is Battle of the Book Week.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
I've taken on the possibly the biggest challenge of my life.
I originally thought the biggest challenge was finding a husband,
but I nailed that. This is harder trying to make
the ultimate Book Week costume for your daughter, Miley May.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
So if you guys missed it, Marley came in. I
have been historically not particularly great a book Week. I've
forgotten about it many years in a row. I mean
I always to be fair though, and to give myself
some credit because I did. I was thinking about what
I said yesterday. Yes I may have forgotten, but I've
always come through at the very like final hour, at
the finish line. My kids have never gone to school
(13:50):
without a costume. She's get a microphone, she goes go
as mummy.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
No.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yeah, Well, I was like, I haven't written a book.
And then I was like, hold on, I have written
a book. I have written a book.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Yeah, take the microphone, girls.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Mar I make Molly gos like a sex and relationship
book writer. Sure, no, I've always sent them to school,
but it hasn't been a very well thought out costume.
Like it's never been that kid at school that goes
on a mufty day and is wearing like school uniform
Lucky year.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Because Brittany has stepped up to the metaphorical plate.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Okay, so if you missed it yesterday, Marley's request was
either a Ladybug outfit or Taylor Swift. And I have
some thoughts. I didn't want to say this while she
was in the room, but I have some caveats and
I have some rules for you.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Well, I'm feeling really good, so I did pretend that
it was all fine.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yesterday. I was like, yeah, I've got this. I am
definitely stressing. And you were like, who but a Ladybug?
I was like, I was like, yeah, Marley, may I
know Ladybug? Anyway, I went home and did some googling.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Turns out Spotlight have literally the identical Ladybug costume she's
asked for. Like, I don't even have to do anything.
I can just go and buy the ready made costume.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, but that's not really making a costume for it?
Is it if you're going to go and buy it
straight off the bath? Well, what it means you don't
give your hard work break? Because I was so well,
I was always going to give her two options.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
One is the bought option and one is the option
made with the glue gun and love.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
So we've gone Taylor Swift.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Taylor Swift is going to be a costume that I
have my ideas and I'm going to make it from
scratch with my bare hands.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
The tailor Swift one is one that I'm the most
concerned about. And it's because I have also looked up
as of last night, Taylor Swift DIY inspo, which I
know it is. It is not age appropriate, okay. And
Marley's talking about like what era Taylor Swift she wants
to go to book week as And every single picture
(15:31):
she's showing me is like the one legged unitard that's
got a flame up the side a baby. You are
six and you were in kindergarten. You are not wearing that.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
The sparkly bikini with the cowgirl hat and tackles. I
should put in the.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Beer, Okay. No, I have got ideas as if.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I'm going to send you to school looking like that.
I have the perfect idea producer. Grace is lending me
her cricket. Honey, Britney said, this is for you. I
don't actually know what a cricket is, but Grace is
gonna give it to me.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
It's like a cutting machine, so you create a design
and then you make it. You can stick it on things.
That's how much do you have to have Grace made you.
Guys can't see this unless you're watching this on our socials,
but we have these clipballs that say the pick up
on the back and this is Grace's pride and joy
she came to work. We love them. They're amazing, but
they're just can made by the cricket. She goes, hey,
I'll lend you my cricket.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
I was like, totally thanks, And then for a second
later I was like, what's a cricket.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I was like, what do I have to do that.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
I've got my glue gum, I've got some sparkles.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Okay, so I'm thinking sparkly dress. I'm thinking, hang on,
it's not your costume. But I just wanted to be
age appropriate. She's kinder going. I've seen you've seen what
I wear. It's age appropriate. I know what honey Brittany
will think is age appropriate.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Okay, No, I have nieces and nephews, and I'm very
strict with what they were.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Sparkly dress. I have a denim jacket that you can
up cycle if you want, like a good base to
start from. And I reckon some sunglasses with some like
beads and stuff on them or something. I've got an idea. Okay,
stop talking and let me do what I'm doing. I've
got my idea. I've got my plan. You're the one
that forgets every year. That's why I've taken it on.
All right, Well, look you're off to Spotlight afternoons. I
(17:03):
am off the Spotlight.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
They actually have so many DIY stuff Like I could
get a cricket from there if I wanted to. But
Grace is going to save me a couple bar But
this is going to be a costume. Let me tell
you if she picks the costume I didn't make, if
she picks the Ladybug, right, I mean, she's gonna look great,
but I'll just be so heartbroken.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
I'll play it cool. Can we can get you know
what we can do? If she chooses the Ladybug outfit.
We can give the tailor Swift outfit to Lola and
send her to daycare for one of her four outfits,
so it'll get used, it'll get it's absolutely fine. Well,
look anyone. If you guys are also in the midst
of trying to make Bookweek costumes, You've got about a
month up your sleeve. It is coming in hot and fast.
If you want to get ready, Spotlights the home of
(17:40):
costumes and accessories to bring all of your favorite Bookweek
characters to life. And guys, that is it from us.
We're bloody out of you.
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
A good pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura burn Baby
your what our windows downe?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
That's my worldris in the dust. Only good tabs are
all down. I don't much now, but yeah I'm not.
I'll big get and what I want.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
It don't matter where. This is the pickup.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Hi guys, Happy hump Day or end of the hump Day. Anyway,
it's the pick up with Brett Hockey and Laura burn Flies.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Why doesn't it laws Wednesday? Humpday comes around really quickly.
Speaking of hump day, who about little hump over there?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
That baby belly?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I thought you were trying to imply how the baby
belly got here? I was, yeah, that is the problem.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
I wasn't a pivoted because I was like a three PM.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
No, that's true. Yeah. Look, we're well into it now.
Thirty two weeks is what we are. So what is
that math? Eight weeks left? It's like eight weeks and
three days or something. If we're gonna get real pay.
I had to check my app because I keep forgetting,
and so every so often I have to remind myself.
I go on there and then I get a bit
frightened by the fact that it's so soon. But I was,
I was telling you this week, I feel like I'm
(01:19):
playing a game of chicken at the moment. You might
remember this Hamish nanny did it a really long time
ago where they got in a car and they drove
with no petrol to see how far they could push
it before like the petrol just run out. Oh I
remember where, Like they really stretched that content out. That's
me with getting baby stuff. So we're now eight weeks
until the babies do and I have nothing. I don't
(01:39):
have a cot to put it in. I don't have
a side pram, I don't have swaddles. I'd have a pram.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Because you've done it twice, so you're not as stress.
If it was your first one, you'd be so organized.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
But I think it's gone too far. I think I'm
too catch shuit.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Eight weeks you have plenty of time, but you need
to give some time in case it comes early, so
you need to round that down to like six weeks.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
So you probably do need to get cracking. Yeah, okay,
all right, Well, look, do you want to play the
game that we've been playing. What size fruit? Do you
think the baby's out? I just had to look it
up myself. I would go, in my experience a jackfruit.
What's a jackfruit? Oh? Yeah, I know what a jackfruit is.
I've looked at four different websites. Well, yeah, like they're
(02:20):
like posters you can buy and stuff. I've looked at
four different ones and not one of them. Do I
know what the fruit is? So this is a bit
anti climac Jackfridg's wrong. Do you know what a napa is?
Big napa lettuce or okay? Another one says that thirty
two weeks is a jacama. I don't know what any
of these is. Can we find one where.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
We actually I've got here the size of a bunch
of celery or a squash?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
No, see, a celery can be so is.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
That with the head on or head off the leaves?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Celery doesn't make sense? A celery feels like it. A
squash makes sense. Squash, let's go with that. But that's
still pretty small.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Does it do a lot of growth in the last
eight weeks? I would have thought it was like almost there.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Who knows? Like I told you, I've got no ideas
having this pregnancy other and there aren't too many topics
that get people as fired up as cheating now. Whenever
we talk about cheating on the show or on our
Life Uncut podcast, people have very strong opinions when it
comes to cheating, and I think it's because if you've
(03:20):
experienced it, you know how much it absolutely hurts every
fiber of your body to find out that your partner
has been unfaithful. It's like one of the greatest betrayals
I think you can have in a relationship. Yes, similar
to not wanting to share your food when you go
out with a partner. The one thing we don't talk
about very much is how do we feel if you
find out that your friend is cheating on their partner.
When it comes to your friendships, would you remain best
(03:42):
friends with someone or close friends with someone if you
found out that they were cheating on their partner? Have
a listen to this because there's an influencer online who
has a hot take on why they wouldn't be friends
with someone if they're a cheater.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I don't stay friends with anyone who cheats on their partner,
nor would I do business with a cheater either, because
if you can lie to the person you sleep next
to every single night, if you can look them dead
in the eye knowing that you are betraying them, And
what makes me think you wouldn't betray me given half
the chance? You see, Cheating isn't just a relationship issue,
It's a character issue.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
The reason why I want to talk about this is
because I would dare say that every single person listening
to this right now, if like, if you're of a
dating age, you know someone who's cheated, you're probably friends
with someone who's cheated. Statistically, seventy percent of couples, seventy
percent of married couples.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
You know, I would take that with a grand assualt.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
And it's a kind of everywhere online that statistic, And
obviously it's varying, but up to have experienced cheating in
their relationships, whether they know about it or not. What
do you think, Britt, do you think you can stay
friends with someone who cheats on their partner?
Speaker 4 (04:46):
I understand what this guy's saying for sure, Like, if
your friend is cheating on their partner, how would you
trust them in your relationships? You know, I understand why,
But I don't think it's a blanket statement at all.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
It does make it awkward.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Like I have known people in my life in the
past that have cheated and I knew that because they
told me, like as a friend, they can fight it,
mean whatever they were going through, And it's hard because
sometimes you do have to differentiate between what they might
be going through and why they're doing it. And I'm
not saying that to give reasons, but like, I don't
think you can just cut someone off in your life
because something has happened in their relationship. As you just said,
(05:21):
up to seventy percent of people having fidelity in their relationships. Like,
I don't think for me, I'm just going to cut
someone out of my life. But we have heard of
so many crazy stories of people writeing through our podcast
Life Uncut podcasts of friends in situations that are doing this,
And in my head, I think I could not have
that person in my life. Like if I knew how
much a friend was backstabbing someone and if their partner
(05:43):
was really good friends with me too, Like if my
day to day life was these both of these people involved,
then that's way harder to maintain.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, I definitely agree. I don't think it's black and white.
But at the same time, I would say that for
the friendships I've had where I know that one partner's cheating,
and especially it's different like if the other person doesn't
know that they're being cheated on, generous person is doing
it behind their back, and then I have found out,
it puts you in an incredibly uncomfortable situation because you
(06:11):
have to then weigh out, well, are you going to
be the person that holds the higher moral standard and
goes and tells you you're going to bring that drama
into your life. But I would say we underestimate how
much affects friendships. And for every single relationship that I've
been witnessed to where cheating has happened and they've been
friends of mine, we're no longer friends because it's kind
of just deteriorated over time. Whether that is because morals
(06:34):
don't align, or whether that is just simply because I
put distance in the friendship because it was too icky.
There was too much drama there that I didn't want
in my own life.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Well, another weird different angle or take that just popped
into my head is like, I'm just going to think
of my husband, for example, Ben, if his friends were
cheating on their partner, I wouldn't want him to be
friends with them because like, yeah, so when you look
at it in reverse, I'm like, Okay, well I don't
want that, So then it makes you reflect on your
own relationships. But I don't think it's black and white.
(07:02):
Every single situation is different.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yeah, I agree, But I do think if you ask
someone who's that conflict voidant that you can't have those
conversations with your partner and you are going behind their
back and cheating, and cheating is something that's like insidious
in that relationship, then I would dare say that maybe
that is someone who would treat you poorly if that
circumstance could present itself. I'm just still thinking about it
now in my head.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
It's actually an impossible statement to make, because if your
friend is in a really bad, toxic relationship and they're
not being treated well and they haven't been treated well
for years and whatever else is going on, and they
seek solace with someone else, that's very different to then
a friend who is treated like a princess at home
and he's constantly going out being like stuff that I'm
going to go and like, do you know what I mean,
(07:45):
the situation of whatever relationship your friend is in. All
of these things come into this equation. I think we
can just be like, oh, you cheated, I'm cutting you.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
However, for example, if I found out that you were
cheating on Ben and you were like, oh, yeah, just
you know, I can get away with it. He's overseas,
I'd be like, what the hell are you doing? Like,
who are you? You're not gonna cut me? You need me,
I mean, And besides that, I wouldn't ever do it.
I would never cheat on my husband.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I am super excited about the guests that we have
on the Pickup right now. Michael Theo. Now, a lot
of you might remember he was a bit of a
breakout star on the ABC show Love on the Spectrum
a few years ago, and that's where we were first
introduced to him. Now we've spoken to Michael a few
times on the pick Up and we've also spoken to
him on our podcast, Life Uncut podcast, so.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
We're a big fan.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
But now Michael has been nominated for a Logie for
Best Actor in a Comedy Drama in the new show
that he's in Austin. Now, Austin is like a comedy
drama on the ABC. It's an incredible show. And to
see Michael Hope from when we first met him on
our screens to now being nominated for a LOGI is
absolutely incredible.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Michael, welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Thank you ladies. It's a pleasure to be on your
show again.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I got so nice to talk to you. It's been
so long. Yeah, I remember when we interviewed you on
Life on cart would have been gosh, like maybe five
years ago now four years ago, and you said at
the time that we asked what's the next thing after
love on the spectrum for you? And you said you
really wanted to get into acting, And now not only
did you get into acting, now you're nominated for a LOGI.
(09:22):
What's it been like being in the series one so far?
And I know you guys have finished season two, Like,
what's this experience been like for you?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Loved every day of it because it was such a
wonderful project for me to work on with such amazing
people as well. Basically loved every moment of the first
season and it felt like that I was in a
different world.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
For people that might not have seen Austin yet. Can
you just tell us what it's about?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
It's about a children's book author Julian Hartswood who gets
canceled and discovers that he has a newer diverse son
named Austin, who begins to see as his path to redemption.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
One thing that I think is so amazing about this, Michael,
is like, obviously Austin, who is in the show, is neurodiverse.
How important to you is it that people, as in,
when there's a role that becomes available for someone in
an acting role where the character is neurodiverse, that it's
actually played by someone who has that in real life.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I believe it's extremely important because the portrayal is more
authentic that way, and because that character could possibly reflect
on lived experiences of the actor.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
You know what I love. I love that you had
a goal and you set out your ambition and then
you in the last few Yeah, I mean I really
I would love to dig up that audio because I
loved how much and how excited you were about the
possibility of getting into acting. I think it's just so
inspirational what you have achieved, You've got the logis this weekend.
Who are you taking to the logis with you? What
(10:57):
are you most excited about?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I'm afraid I can't take anyone.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Oh no, no date for the logies.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
No, I'm afraid not. But also if I was able
to take someone, I have taken my mother because I
promised her age ago that I would bring her because
she's been a huge supporter of this during since the
very beginning five years ago.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Well, I'm going to be there, Michael, so I'll have
to definitely say hello to you on the red carpet.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
But before we were Laura is not coming this year unfortunately. No,
I'm up for Like, that's interesting. It's okay, Michael. You
don't have to feel sorry for me. I'm just not going.
I've got nine weeks until I'm having a baby. I
didn't want to squeeze into a dress.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Hey, Michael, you you are up against your on screen
dad for the logan, Ben Miller.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yes, I like, do you feel like that's tough competition?
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Do you feel like he could win?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Could you win?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
I don't know about how tough the competition is. I
am hopeful to win the LOGI, but there's no guarantee
that it will happen. I just go to see what happens.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Who are you most excited to see at the logis
or who do you hope you bump into.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I'm most excited to see Key Flannigan because I'd love
to meet her and I love her performances in Fisk
and Utopia.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I don't know exactly who will be there, but I've
heard that Justin Clark will be there. I'm excited to
see her again and I'm hoping to make Julia Zamiro's acquaintance.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Well, Michael, we are all rooting for you. We do
hope that you win this weekend, and we're so excited
for you.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Yeah, make sure you say hey to me on the
red carpet. I'm looking forward to seeing you and I
really hope you win.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Not a problem. And also people should know that with
Austin season two, all the episodes are on iView now.
People have four days left until voting closes.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Okay, so get your voting right now if you're listening.
Thanks so much, Michael, and we're so excited for you,
and we do hope that you win, and for anyone
who wants to watch it. Season two of Austin is
now available in ABC and iView. Grit Yesterday, my daughter
Molly May came into the show, and you took on
the greatest battle of a life lifetime.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
I was gonna say the Battle of the sex It
wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Remember there was a TV show Battle on the Sexes. Yeah,
this is Battle of the Book Week.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
I've taken on the possibly the biggest challenge of my life.
I originally thought the biggest challenge was finding a husband,
but I nailed that. This is harder trying to make
the ultimate Book Week costume for your daughter, Miley May.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
So if you guys missed it, Marley came in. I
have been historically not particularly great a book Week. I've
forgotten about it many years in a row. I mean
I always to be fair though, and to give myself
some credit because I did. I was thinking about what
I said yesterday. Yes I may have forgotten, but I've
always come through at the very like final hour, at
the finish line. My kids have never gone to school
(13:50):
without a costume. She's get a microphone, she goes go
as mummy.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
No.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yeah, Well, I was like, I haven't written a book.
And then I was like, hold on, I have written
a book. I have written a book.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Yeah, take the microphone, girls.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Mar I make Molly gos like a sex and relationship
book writer. Sure, no, I've always sent them to school,
but it hasn't been a very well thought out costume.
Like it's never been that kid at school that goes
on a mufty day and is wearing like school uniform
Lucky year.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Because Brittany has stepped up to the metaphorical plate.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Okay, so if you missed it yesterday, Marley's request was
either a Ladybug outfit or Taylor Swift. And I have
some thoughts. I didn't want to say this while she
was in the room, but I have some caveats and
I have some rules for you.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Well, I'm feeling really good, so I did pretend that
it was all fine.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yesterday. I was like, yeah, I've got this. I am
definitely stressing. And you were like, who but a Ladybug?
I was like, I was like, yeah, Marley, may I
know Ladybug? Anyway, I went home and did some googling.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Turns out Spotlight have literally the identical Ladybug costume she's
asked for. Like, I don't even have to do anything.
I can just go and buy the ready made costume.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, but that's not really making a costume for it?
Is it if you're going to go and buy it
straight off the bath? Well, what it means you don't
give your hard work break? Because I was so well,
I was always going to give her two options.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
One is the bought option and one is the option
made with the glue gun and love.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
So we've gone Taylor Swift.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Taylor Swift is going to be a costume that I
have my ideas and I'm going to make it from
scratch with my bare hands.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
The tailor Swift one is one that I'm the most
concerned about. And it's because I have also looked up
as of last night, Taylor Swift DIY inspo, which I
know it is. It is not age appropriate, okay. And
Marley's talking about like what era Taylor Swift she wants
to go to book week as And every single picture
(15:31):
she's showing me is like the one legged unitard that's
got a flame up the side a baby. You are
six and you were in kindergarten. You are not wearing that.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
The sparkly bikini with the cowgirl hat and tackles. I
should put in the.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Beer, Okay. No, I have got ideas as if.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I'm going to send you to school looking like that.
I have the perfect idea producer. Grace is lending me
her cricket. Honey, Britney said, this is for you. I
don't actually know what a cricket is, but Grace is
gonna give it to me.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
It's like a cutting machine, so you create a design
and then you make it. You can stick it on things.
That's how much do you have to have Grace made you.
Guys can't see this unless you're watching this on our socials,
but we have these clipballs that say the pick up
on the back and this is Grace's pride and joy
she came to work. We love them. They're amazing, but
they're just can made by the cricket. She goes, hey,
I'll lend you my cricket.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
I was like, totally thanks, And then for a second
later I was like, what's a cricket.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I was like, what do I have to do that.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
I've got my glue gum, I've got some sparkles.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Okay, so I'm thinking sparkly dress. I'm thinking, hang on,
it's not your costume. But I just wanted to be
age appropriate. She's kinder going. I've seen you've seen what
I wear. It's age appropriate. I know what honey Brittany
will think is age appropriate.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Okay, No, I have nieces and nephews, and I'm very
strict with what they were.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Sparkly dress. I have a denim jacket that you can
up cycle if you want, like a good base to
start from. And I reckon some sunglasses with some like
beads and stuff on them or something. I've got an idea. Okay,
stop talking and let me do what I'm doing. I've
got my idea. I've got my plan. You're the one
that forgets every year. That's why I've taken it on.
All right, Well, look you're off to Spotlight afternoons. I
(17:03):
am off the Spotlight.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
They actually have so many DIY stuff Like I could
get a cricket from there if I wanted to. But
Grace is going to save me a couple bar But
this is going to be a costume. Let me tell
you if she picks the costume I didn't make, if
she picks the Ladybug, right, I mean, she's gonna look great,
but I'll just be so heartbroken.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
I'll play it cool. Can we can get you know
what we can do? If she chooses the Ladybug outfit.
We can give the tailor Swift outfit to Lola and
send her to daycare for one of her four outfits,
so it'll get used, it'll get it's absolutely fine. Well,
look anyone. If you guys are also in the midst
of trying to make Bookweek costumes, You've got about a
month up your sleeve. It is coming in hot and fast.
If you want to get ready, Spotlights the home of
(17:40):
costumes and accessories to bring all of your favorite Bookweek
characters to life. And guys, that is it from us.
We're bloody out of you.
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