June 3, 2025 • 8 mins
Britt & Laura were joined by Natalija from Lipstick Investigations to chat about what it's like to be a female private investigator, how she got into the industry and the craziest thing she's seen on a case.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hihart podcasts, Heem More Kiss podcast playlist and listen live
on the free iHeart app. Now you know something that
has like come into my algorithm recently? A plant?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
No?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I mean I'm pretty hardcore on the plant content as well,
But no, I have been served quite a few private investigators.
And what I mean I do I hear you look
at when you get on someone's explore page, how did
you end up here? No, there's a couple of accounts
that I follow that I am absolutely obsessed with, and
they're female investigators who go in and try and find,
(00:43):
like you know, husbands who are cheating, or like you know,
find the truth behind the mystery. And if you've ever
been in a relationship where you just like don't know
from your your elbow from your buttthole, like honestly, you
might have felt as though maybe hiring a private investigator
is your only hope in getting the answers that you're
probably looking for. Okay, yeah, okay, I mean I've never
(01:04):
done it. I absolutely had moments in my past relationship
where I thought, like, could I be that person? Like,
could I hire someone?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I'm surprised is that a retroical question? Can I answer it.
I'm surprised you haven't ever done it, because it's definitely
like a tendency that I feel like could come out
for you.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
No, No, I don't think that. I think it's like
you've got to be in a pretty hard situation to
get to the point of hiring a private investigator. Yeah,
but I would love to know how do people get
into this, Like what are the kinds of things that
they are trying to uncover? And like in terms of
when someone has a suspicion and actually getting someone and
employing them on the case, how often is it that
their suspicions are usually true? Or do have Natalia who's
(01:43):
on the phone. So Natalia is a private investigator. She
works for a company called Lipstick Investigations. Great, and she's
been doing it for twelve years. And Natalia, welcome to
the show.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Hi, how are you going ge?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
How did you get into this line of work? Like,
how did you get into being a private investigator?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Well, my friends do like to call me a stalker,
just a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
The vigilante comme.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, it's always exposed the truth, you know. Look, so
twelve years ago, it was just a tape course. It
was a Certificate three in investigative Services.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Yeah, yes, So unfortunately, look, I don't do about tape
courses anymore, so you have to go through a current
private company. So yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
So was there something that happened in your life, like
something that sort of set you off? Were you trying
to look at things in your own life or a
relationship or like, there has to be something that made
you want to solve these crimes.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Look, when I was younger, I grew up watching like
Bronica Mars and James Bond and like Larracraft and all
that sort of thing. So I was like all female empowerment,
you know, and I always just to have a lot
of girlfriends who, lets say, oh look I think my
boyfriend's cheating on me. I just have all these hard feelings.
Is there a way that we can find out if
it's cheating? And I'm like, you know what, I would
sta following him and see what is up to for
(02:59):
the day, and it's just pretty much Yeah. So it
was just a nack from the beginning of it, you know.
So I just thought, Okay, this actually it's actually quite
good with this.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
So is that that's the most common kind of things
that you get called into where it's like women who
think their husbands are cheating on them or is there
a specific type of like I don't even know. Do
we call it a crime, a crime against emotions?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I don't know, but a moral crime?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
A moral crime? Like what is the most frequent thing
that you get called to do.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
So we do do a lot of impigelity based work,
So a lot of like cheating husband, cheating wife, boyfriend's girlfriends,
anything that you can think of, pretty much, and it's
looked quite unfortunate, but it's fortunate in a way because
there's always going to be a teeter.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
To say, do you think there's like one case. I
don't know if you're like how much your allowed to
tell us, but is there a case that you can
tell us about that was just so crazy, like you
couldn't even believe it.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yes, Early in my career, actually I had a jog
where a male was out with his female companion she
was actually his mistress, and he had told his wife
that Heeople's coming home, and the wife had said that
to him that she was working late from work, so
she wasn't going to be in the house, but she
actually was in fact in the house and inside the
(04:11):
closet the year. So he actually went to the Marrital
home and took his mistress to the home, not knowing
that his wife was actually inside the bedroom closet.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Want to do that to yourself? What a dirt bag?
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Right?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
And then did she like spring out at the right moment?
Climbat So the.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Mayor and hismistress actually went into the Maryor home and
then maybe about five to seven minutes later, the mistress
comes out, and then maybe about five minutes after that,
about six cock Car's name, the wife's just running out
trying to like attack the mistress. The husband's trying to
pull apart the wife and the mistresses. Oh my god.
It was intense, Like even just remembering it right now,
I lost for words for it.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
That was just could you imagine? I feel like, at
least if you've got the information, like, why would you
subject yourself to hiding in a cupboard to see it firsthand?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I understand why some people would, like some people probably
don't believe it, not unless they've seen it. Now, I
want to know when you go out and you and
you follow someone or you're investigating someone, how often is
it that the conclusion is they've actually been cheating, Like,
is it kind of a done deal that if you
get called onto the scene to kind of take over this,
(05:23):
that the likelihood that there's cheating there is pretty high.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Well technically, like once you have that feeling like you're
partner's cheating on you and you hire us, we're the
last step. So for you to have to hire us,
you know that it's happening, and we're just there to
provide the evidence at the end of the day. So
there has been obviously some cases in my twelve years
of working that it's just sometimes paranoia like it's not happening,
(05:46):
that could be from a past trauma, from a past relationship,
and we're just there to be evidence based at the
end of the day. So I'd say seventy percent yes,
if you think that your partner's cheating on you and
your partner's cheating on you, and thirty percent that it
might just not be that and it's just an insecurity.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Have you ever been sprung Like have you ever been
figured out by the person that you're tailing?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Oh, of course, Like I'm not invisible. I mean sometimes
I'm invisible, but no like, look, I've thought I had
bright red hair early in my career, so I had
it died. I was known as a Yeah, I was
known as the spy with the bright red hair, and
now I've got bright blue hair, so like, look, I'm
not that invisible. But did be surprise? People don't actually
(06:30):
do pay attention to you, Like if you're they're cheating,
you're not looking around and going hey, who's that? Like
who's this? Who's that?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, if I saw the same person like around my suburb,
you know, and I kept seeing them like someone with
red hair, my mind doesn't go to like, oh, they're
an investigator following me. You're just like, well, I've been
seeing that person a lot.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Like you don't put the two together, to be fair, though,
Like I don't think I have a very good like
face name recall and I reckon. I could see the
same person a couple of times before even realizing that
there was like you know that there was a toiling here.
Do you think being a woman has helped you in
this industry or do you think it's been a hindrance
at all?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Oh no, it's actually been there's so many benefits and
being a female in his industry. You know, sometimes you
can get into nightclubs if you just flip with the
security guards a little bit. It's like, especially if your
subject is going into a nightclub, you just got to
security guards. He's like, I am a private investigator. I'm like,
I think that that guy's cheating on his partner. And
the security guards they love it. They'll be like, oh
(07:25):
my god, really, like can we get on this? Like
do you want us to help you? It's like it's
right this go and drama. Yeah, like we'll help you,
like whatever you need, just tell us like who is it?
Who is it? And I'm like, well, I can't tell
you who it is, but they just love it. But
being a female, it's yeah, there's so many upsides to it.
Like I said, you get into more places people don't
really pay attention to you.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
So yeah, Tlia, I find it's so fascinating. Like I said,
there's definitely been times in my past where I've contemplated.
I've never I've never hired one. If you never had God,
I don't think I'm ever gonna have to me my
current husband, but always.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Current husband if he's beau.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I've had to hire someone like you with my husband now,
but you're doing God's work and Talian, you're doing God's work. Oh.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Sometimes like, look, it is a high job. People don't
think that it's hard, but it is mentally demanding, you know,
and sometimes you're like you're there at your client's worst points.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
It's like they don't want to be someone. Yeah, they
don't want to hire someone to see if their husband
or wife they're cheating on them, you know, and once
you find out that they are and you give them
the evidence, you kind of become like a little bit
of a counsel of them to know. But in saying that,
you can't really have a bias opinion either. So some
clients come to and they say, oh, even my husband,
a dictat, is cheating on me, And I'm like, oh no,
(08:43):
I can't really say that.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Oh, thank you, Natalia. It was a pleasure to talk
to you. And hey, if anyone's listening Lipstick Investigations. If
if you've got a suspicion about a partner, you know
who to call.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, you might get a boom and calls after this
thanks to Italian.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Thank you so much, girl,
Hihart podcasts, Heem More Kiss podcast playlist and listen live
on the free iHeart app. Now you know something that
has like come into my algorithm recently? A plant?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
No?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I mean I'm pretty hardcore on the plant content as well,
But no, I have been served quite a few private investigators.
And what I mean I do I hear you look
at when you get on someone's explore page, how did
you end up here? No, there's a couple of accounts
that I follow that I am absolutely obsessed with, and
they're female investigators who go in and try and find,
(00:43):
like you know, husbands who are cheating, or like you know,
find the truth behind the mystery. And if you've ever
been in a relationship where you just like don't know
from your your elbow from your buttthole, like honestly, you
might have felt as though maybe hiring a private investigator
is your only hope in getting the answers that you're
probably looking for. Okay, yeah, okay, I mean I've never
(01:04):
done it. I absolutely had moments in my past relationship
where I thought, like, could I be that person? Like,
could I hire someone?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I'm surprised is that a retroical question? Can I answer it.
I'm surprised you haven't ever done it, because it's definitely
like a tendency that I feel like could come out
for you.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
No, No, I don't think that. I think it's like
you've got to be in a pretty hard situation to
get to the point of hiring a private investigator. Yeah,
but I would love to know how do people get
into this, Like what are the kinds of things that
they are trying to uncover? And like in terms of
when someone has a suspicion and actually getting someone and
employing them on the case, how often is it that
their suspicions are usually true? Or do have Natalia who's
(01:43):
on the phone. So Natalia is a private investigator. She
works for a company called Lipstick Investigations. Great, and she's
been doing it for twelve years. And Natalia, welcome to
the show.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Hi, how are you going ge?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
How did you get into this line of work? Like,
how did you get into being a private investigator?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Well, my friends do like to call me a stalker,
just a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
The vigilante comme.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, it's always exposed the truth, you know. Look, so
twelve years ago, it was just a tape course. It
was a Certificate three in investigative Services.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Yeah, yes, So unfortunately, look, I don't do about tape
courses anymore, so you have to go through a current
private company. So yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
So was there something that happened in your life, like
something that sort of set you off? Were you trying
to look at things in your own life or a
relationship or like, there has to be something that made
you want to solve these crimes.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Look, when I was younger, I grew up watching like
Bronica Mars and James Bond and like Larracraft and all
that sort of thing. So I was like all female empowerment,
you know, and I always just to have a lot
of girlfriends who, lets say, oh look I think my
boyfriend's cheating on me. I just have all these hard feelings.
Is there a way that we can find out if
it's cheating? And I'm like, you know what, I would
sta following him and see what is up to for
(02:59):
the day, and it's just pretty much Yeah. So it
was just a nack from the beginning of it, you know.
So I just thought, Okay, this actually it's actually quite
good with this.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
So is that that's the most common kind of things
that you get called into where it's like women who
think their husbands are cheating on them or is there
a specific type of like I don't even know. Do
we call it a crime, a crime against emotions?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I don't know, but a moral crime?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
A moral crime? Like what is the most frequent thing
that you get called to do.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
So we do do a lot of impigelity based work,
So a lot of like cheating husband, cheating wife, boyfriend's girlfriends,
anything that you can think of, pretty much, and it's
looked quite unfortunate, but it's fortunate in a way because
there's always going to be a teeter.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
To say, do you think there's like one case. I
don't know if you're like how much your allowed to
tell us, but is there a case that you can
tell us about that was just so crazy, like you
couldn't even believe it.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yes, Early in my career, actually I had a jog
where a male was out with his female companion she
was actually his mistress, and he had told his wife
that Heeople's coming home, and the wife had said that
to him that she was working late from work, so
she wasn't going to be in the house, but she
actually was in fact in the house and inside the
(04:11):
closet the year. So he actually went to the Marrital
home and took his mistress to the home, not knowing
that his wife was actually inside the bedroom closet.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Want to do that to yourself? What a dirt bag?
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Right?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
And then did she like spring out at the right moment?
Climbat So the.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Mayor and hismistress actually went into the Maryor home and
then maybe about five to seven minutes later, the mistress
comes out, and then maybe about five minutes after that,
about six cock Car's name, the wife's just running out
trying to like attack the mistress. The husband's trying to
pull apart the wife and the mistresses. Oh my god.
It was intense, Like even just remembering it right now,
I lost for words for it.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
That was just could you imagine? I feel like, at
least if you've got the information, like, why would you
subject yourself to hiding in a cupboard to see it firsthand?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I understand why some people would, like some people probably
don't believe it, not unless they've seen it. Now, I
want to know when you go out and you and
you follow someone or you're investigating someone, how often is
it that the conclusion is they've actually been cheating, Like,
is it kind of a done deal that if you
get called onto the scene to kind of take over this,
(05:23):
that the likelihood that there's cheating there is pretty high.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Well technically, like once you have that feeling like you're
partner's cheating on you and you hire us, we're the
last step. So for you to have to hire us,
you know that it's happening, and we're just there to
provide the evidence at the end of the day. So
there has been obviously some cases in my twelve years
of working that it's just sometimes paranoia like it's not happening,
(05:46):
that could be from a past trauma, from a past relationship,
and we're just there to be evidence based at the
end of the day. So I'd say seventy percent yes,
if you think that your partner's cheating on you and
your partner's cheating on you, and thirty percent that it
might just not be that and it's just an insecurity.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Have you ever been sprung Like have you ever been
figured out by the person that you're tailing?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Oh, of course, Like I'm not invisible. I mean sometimes
I'm invisible, but no like, look, I've thought I had
bright red hair early in my career, so I had
it died. I was known as a Yeah, I was
known as the spy with the bright red hair, and
now I've got bright blue hair, so like, look, I'm
not that invisible. But did be surprise? People don't actually
(06:30):
do pay attention to you, Like if you're they're cheating,
you're not looking around and going hey, who's that? Like
who's this? Who's that?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, if I saw the same person like around my suburb,
you know, and I kept seeing them like someone with
red hair, my mind doesn't go to like, oh, they're
an investigator following me. You're just like, well, I've been
seeing that person a lot.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Like you don't put the two together, to be fair, though,
Like I don't think I have a very good like
face name recall and I reckon. I could see the
same person a couple of times before even realizing that
there was like you know that there was a toiling here.
Do you think being a woman has helped you in
this industry or do you think it's been a hindrance
at all?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Oh no, it's actually been there's so many benefits and
being a female in his industry. You know, sometimes you
can get into nightclubs if you just flip with the
security guards a little bit. It's like, especially if your
subject is going into a nightclub, you just got to
security guards. He's like, I am a private investigator. I'm like,
I think that that guy's cheating on his partner. And
the security guards they love it. They'll be like, oh
(07:25):
my god, really, like can we get on this? Like
do you want us to help you? It's like it's
right this go and drama. Yeah, like we'll help you,
like whatever you need, just tell us like who is it?
Who is it? And I'm like, well, I can't tell
you who it is, but they just love it. But
being a female, it's yeah, there's so many upsides to it.
Like I said, you get into more places people don't
really pay attention to you.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
So yeah, Tlia, I find it's so fascinating. Like I said,
there's definitely been times in my past where I've contemplated.
I've never I've never hired one. If you never had God,
I don't think I'm ever gonna have to me my
current husband, but always.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Current husband if he's beau.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I've had to hire someone like you with my husband now,
but you're doing God's work and Talian, you're doing God's work. Oh.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Sometimes like, look, it is a high job. People don't
think that it's hard, but it is mentally demanding, you know,
and sometimes you're like you're there at your client's worst points.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
It's like they don't want to be someone. Yeah, they
don't want to hire someone to see if their husband
or wife they're cheating on them, you know, and once
you find out that they are and you give them
the evidence, you kind of become like a little bit
of a counsel of them to know. But in saying that,
you can't really have a bias opinion either. So some
clients come to and they say, oh, even my husband,
a dictat, is cheating on me, And I'm like, oh no,
(08:43):
I can't really say that.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Oh, thank you, Natalia. It was a pleasure to talk
to you. And hey, if anyone's listening Lipstick Investigations. If
if you've got a suspicion about a partner, you know
who to call.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, you might get a boom and calls after this
thanks to Italian.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Thank you so much, girl,
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