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May 12, 2025 16 mins
  • Bushy Martin from Realty Talk and KnowHow Property Finance provides a post election property update
  • Kaaren Lewis, General Manager Allhomes Canberra unpacks the Allhomes April Monthly Market Insights report
  • Sam Ruangsuk, Stylist & Marketing Coordinator at the Style Lab shows us the latest property styling trends

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Cameron Renee's Real Estate Show on Mix one six point
three The Envy of Canberra Live in de Bergen, Northorne
Village by JW.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Land now selling.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Well, good ay Cam, It's time for our real estate
show podcast yet again.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
Yes, Indeed, all the interviews that we enjoyed on Saturday morning,
we get to relive them via the magic of the Internet.

Speaker 5 (00:20):
And here we are, here we are.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
And of course we had the federal election last weekend,
which is still you know, bits and pieces from that
still trickling through. They just are they something new every day,
So we found out what that means, you know for
a real estate point of view.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
Yeah, of course our Bushy Martin from Realty Talk and
Know How Property we had to we had to have
him on.

Speaker 5 (00:39):
A short leash.

Speaker 6 (00:40):
Uh huh.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
He's talking about the election results. But look, we love
his import each and at once a month he joins
us and he brings so much to the show and
it was very interesting to hear what he had to
say about where property might be heading heading off the
results of the election.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Absolutely, and we also chatted about the All Homes monthly
Market Insight report. Now we like to get these reports
and find out what it means for Canberra but also
cam all homes are celebrating twenty five years.

Speaker 5 (01:06):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
I think the really interesting piece that came out of
it was the bumpy ride that we had over the
Easter and anzac high weekends and days off, and that.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
Of course is coming up as well.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
We got two more public holidays at the end of
May and into June, so you know, we might be
looking at the same sort of thing. And of course
we talk about property styling and.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
I feel like whenever we look at all these homes
online that we get to chat about each week, it's rare.
I feel like we see one these days that hasn't
been styled. That's right, And so we found out about
what some of the trends are.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
Yes, okay, so that's what's ahead for the next fifteen
twenty minutes or so. As far as the people who
joined us on our real estate shall we say thank
you too for joining us on our podcast, well came.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Of course, we had the federal election last weekend. We
just we did, and as we said before, there's obviously
still stuff trickling through about that each day after there's
lots of talk in the lead up to and during
the campaign and everything about housing. But now that the
election's done, we know what's wash. We thought we'd better
get a bit of post election property update and say

(02:09):
good morning to Bushy Martin from Realty Talk and know
how property finance.

Speaker 5 (02:13):
Hey Bushy, Hey RENI how are you cam?

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (02:16):
Really good?

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Thank you. Now look Bushy through a real estate lens.
Why is last weekend's result positive?

Speaker 6 (02:25):
Yeah, well, the.

Speaker 7 (02:26):
Later Landslote election results a bit like a property settlement
that finally goes throughout the months of back and forth.
So the biggest positive is our certainty, clarity and momentum,
because we all hate uncertainty and property more so than
a dodgy pre purchase inspection. So no knowing where the
government stands and what we're dealing with really helps us
breed easier.

Speaker 6 (02:46):
And I think.

Speaker 7 (02:47):
The stability and the clear set of housing initiatives through
the National Housing Corps that's targeting one point two mil
and extra homes by twenty thirty if they can sort
of get.

Speaker 6 (02:57):
The shovels in the ground. Plus the housing is.

Speaker 7 (03:00):
Fun, which is you know, there's ten billion dollars being
aimed at delivering thirty thousand.

Speaker 6 (03:05):
Social and affordable homes over the next five years.

Speaker 7 (03:07):
And let's not forget the first time buyers home equity scheme,
because the government's looking at taking your share on your
home to help first time timers get in the door center,
which is a bit like getting your parents to go
harveys in the house, but you don't have the mandatory
Sunday dinner obligations that that's to it. And you know,
the really low five percent deposit scheme is really aimed
to get forty thousand, whereas he's into home ownership, which

(03:28):
is sort of giving you the first couple of rungs
on the ladder that's been missing. So I guess in
over all the actions, it's not a magic one, but
it's certainly.

Speaker 6 (03:37):
A steady hand on the wheel. So in property that's
pretty much all we need to keep moving forward.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
Okay, bullshitt, I want you to be gentle here. I've
got my finger over the dump button here at.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
With real estate in mind, Why might some then consider
it a negative result?

Speaker 7 (03:55):
Well, and I'll bite back a little bit hard here, guys,
but I guess some property players see it a bit
like a builder's quote. Yeah, it's very promising, but we're
really waiting to see the fine print because the housing
policies are.

Speaker 6 (04:09):
Great in theory, but they'll likely to.

Speaker 7 (04:12):
Be throwing more fuel on the demand fire, which could
actually push house prices up further without sorting out.

Speaker 6 (04:17):
The supply issues.

Speaker 7 (04:19):
So it's a bit like shouting free drinks at the
party and having no bath after to look out for guys.
But the career election mandate, I guess the biggest thing
is here. They're likely to embold in the government to
push ahead and potentially expand on their policies to tax
unrealized capital gains if they can get it through the Senate,
which is a bit like paying tax on your home

(04:41):
every year when it goes up in the day you
even if you haven't sold it, but not getting a
refund if it goes down and day.

Speaker 6 (04:46):
So that's a bit scary.

Speaker 7 (04:48):
And of course the landslide wind sadly increases the potential
risk of the old cudgels of winding back negative gearing
and capital gains tax raising their ugly head again, which
will push Mum and Dad investors, who actually provide ninety
percent of our mental stock.

Speaker 6 (05:02):
Out of the market and further reduced the housing supply so.

Speaker 7 (05:05):
That supply bottleneck is the major cause of our woes.
So I guess some of the concerns are spending billions
on fueling demand may actually push the prices up, given
we're hundreds of thousands of houses short and we're about
sixty four thousand trade shy of what's required to build,
So plenty of promise, but it needs to be converted
into the progress and will be. It's a bit like

(05:28):
seeing the government build with one hand, but start taking.

Speaker 6 (05:31):
The tools away with the other. So that's some of
the concerns.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
Okay, well, if you answer that and handle that beautifully.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
If I'm going to play just a little bit further here,
after the first term, would you have given the federal
Labor Party a pass mark as far as property is concerned,
So the end of term one them now heading into
term two they get a pass mark.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
Well, I'll take it.

Speaker 6 (05:54):
A bit broader. I don't think any government's got a
pass mark so far. So it doesn't matter what color
it is.

Speaker 7 (06:02):
That they're just not addressing the supply issue, and the
gun's just not getting their hands dirty. They're throwing money
at the problems and expecting the private sector to solve
it that's never going to produce the fruit. If they're
serious about it, they actually need to revert to the
days back in the seventies and eighties and early nineties
where they are actually providing physically the housing supply and

(06:23):
taking the pressure off the private sector to make it happen.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Okay, well you've basically just said it there, But I
was going to ask you what needs to be done
about the housing supply issue?

Speaker 7 (06:32):
Yeah, well, yeah, yes, very simply, we really need to
be removing the red tape, greasing the planning wheels, getting
the hands dirty, working much most closer with the states
to make things happen. But also really importantly, because we're
a bit like we're trying to fill the bathtub with
a plug out at the moment, So we need to
be building smarter and faster with the right type of

(06:54):
housing in the right place. But we also need to
be embracing some of our investors as friends not enemies,
and start using more carrots and last stick. So the
government needs to become more like bugs money than and
less like Elma fudd.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
I was not expecting that.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
No, no, but it's beautiful, Like that's exactly what it
has to have and Ari Bushy as always, it's a
trick to have you on our show and you've just
explained all that beautifully.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
Thank you, Thank you so much.

Speaker 7 (07:22):
Always the pleasure, guys, have a guy weekend.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
You too, choose Bushy Martin from Realty Talk and know
how property finance. Well, Cam's camp Cams, Cam, you're cam.
That's one of those mornings, guys. The All Homes Monthly
Marketing Sights Report is out CAM and whenever these types
of reports come out, we like to find out what
they mean and get the details for camera what it
shows for us.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And there's the beauty of these things
as well, Like they usually come out with big headlines,
but if we dig down just a little bit, we
can find out what's happening in and around the nation's capital.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Absolutely, and we're going to ask those questions to Karen Lewis,
general manager of All Homes Camera High.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Karen, Hi and I how are you going?

Speaker 6 (08:00):
Really? Yes?

Speaker 5 (08:01):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (08:01):
You're good now current what's the one big thing that
the report tells us at the national level?

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Look, at a national level, I think it tells us
property market does not like having two public holidays and
school holidays in one month. Definitely. Oh, supply down, auction
clearance rates down consecutively, but I think we definitely don't
like those public holidays being together.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
Yeah, it's really interesting, is it, because you know, leading
up to it, Renee and I were speaking about it,
whether that's going to be a good thing or a
bad thing, whether you know, people because there's extra time off,
whether they're actually going to be getting out there and
looking more. We know in camera a lot of people
head to the coast, so it really could have gone
either way, but it didn't go the way that we
wanted it to.

Speaker 5 (08:44):
Write, no exactly.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
And look, I was one of those down at the
Canbell coast so yeah, and we're school holidays as well,
and a lot of organizations also sort of closed down
through that public holiday period because they were so close.
They yet had a big impact here.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, And was that the main thing you got for
camebra out of this report or was there anything else
locally that kind of stood out?

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Well, Canberra often bucks the trend, so from an auction
clearance right, we were actually up against every other capital city,
So you know that was positive at least, even though
supply was down and dave On market slightly up. Again,
We're only capital city, so I'm always interested to see
what the differences are because we do have a slightly

(09:28):
different demographic here and probably in the last month a
bit more sensitive to federal elections.

Speaker 5 (09:35):
Here as well.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
So yeah, we saw a few discrepancies to the rest
of the country.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
I always love asking this question as well when we
speak to Nikola Powell and also Sam McGregor, when we
have a look at these reports.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
And now someone like yourself, Curen.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Who just leaves and breaths this when these reports come out,
when they land in your inbox and you open it up,
what's the first thing that you dive in for?

Speaker 5 (09:57):
What do you look for?

Speaker 2 (09:59):
I of course go straight to the Canbra sections. Love
seeing what's happening in the rest of the country, but
straight to the Canbra section and really looking at those
mainly run the auction the volumes coming on because we're
a high auction city, so looking that sort of gives
us some indications as to how the market's going here.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
And Karen is on a slightly different note, We know
that all Homes turns twenty five this year, which is awesome.

Speaker 5 (10:25):
What's planned for that?

Speaker 2 (10:27):
We're there a great year.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
Love it.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
I feel like, let's say a young birthday, but an
old birthday depending on how old you are. But this month,
every month we are doing a giveaway, and this month
we're celebrating with another Camebra institution, Jamala Wildlife Loge and
giving away a night's day there for a couple. Yeah,
whenever they want. So really I wish I could enter

(10:53):
that one. Yes, awesome, but yeah, people can enter on
our website. But yeah, that's this month's giveaway.

Speaker 5 (11:02):
Beautiful. All right, Well, you've done a great job.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
We know that you're at the Lifelong Ball last night,
which was I mean, you know, supporting those sorts of
events a something that All Homes has been doing for
right from day one, for the twenty five years you've
been out. That was no doubt an amazing event last night.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Absolutely, I'm a little bleary eyed this morning to.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Be honors you and many others, I'm sure. Yeah, all right, well,
great event, yes, no doubt it. They always put on
fantastic events. Well, thank you so much for joining us, Karen,
that was great. Thanks for your time.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
See at the forty deo see you guys, Yes, so well, Okay.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
See you later.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Karen lewis general manager of All Homes Cambra. There well
can most of us love to have a bit of
a sticky beak at properties for sale online, whether you're
actually looking for a house or not.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
It's just a fun thing to do. So it's property
tie kicking, isn't it, oh, one hundred percent?

Speaker 3 (11:47):
And you'll notice as you sort of look through one
of the most engaging parts is looking at how the
property has been.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
Style And so for a lot of people who may
not realize when the property is the vendor to de
sides that they're going to sell, they might have somewhere
to go already, so they clean all their stuff out.
And so agents don't just want to be selling an
empty shell. They want to make it look enticing. They
want to make it look like a family home or whatever.
And so these are these companies that come in and

(12:15):
put the beautiful furniture in and the art and so
this is the idea of styling one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
So we wanted to find out what are the latest
properties styling trends and how does that all work and
that Sam ron Silk is stylist and marketing coordinator at
the Style Lab.

Speaker 8 (12:30):
Good morning, Sam, Hey guys, hi today.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
Good thank you.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Now, look what is it for those who don't know
exactly what is styling a property and why is it important?

Speaker 8 (12:40):
Yeah, that's a great question. So styling a property is
basically making a home book is absolutely best before it
hits the market. But it's really important because when somebody
walks into their future home, they want to feel something.
So it's not just about throwing in some nice furniture
or artwork and calling.

Speaker 7 (12:55):
In a day.

Speaker 8 (12:55):
It's about creating a space that really helps buys picture
themselves living there. And I said, people love having a
sticky beak, So when those are listed online or when
they go to open homes, this styling can really boost
how valuable your home feels to the buyers coming through.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
Okay, and so let's put you at the front door
of the place right now.

Speaker 5 (13:13):
It's a new property, it's empty. When you walk in
and look around.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
What are some of the things that you have to
consider as far as styling is concerned.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
Oh, where do I start?

Speaker 8 (13:23):
There's honestly so much more than you guys might think.
So when we walk in and we're quoting a home
for the first time, we're looking at things like the
layout or how the natural light moves to the space.
We also consider the cold, the walls, and even the
style of the home itself. But then it eventually progresses
to who the likely buyer is and how we can
tail the starting to.

Speaker 7 (13:40):
Speak to them as well.

Speaker 8 (13:41):
So yeah, there's also a very practical way to approach
things to and I'm sure other property star les will agree,
like how our truck can act to the property, and
where the photographer will stand for the hero shot, and
in space like apartments, where considering how we can optimize
a small space without overcrowding it.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
And just a bit of a random question I want
to throw at you when you've styled a property, someone
comes in falls in love with it. I don't know
if it's even an option, but do you get people
ask you if they can just buy all the stuff
that's in the house, because sometimes it's like I want
this as it is.

Speaker 8 (14:14):
It actually happens more often than you think, and that's
when the big boss comes in and we have a
very serious conversation and a lot of the time we do,
you know, try and help the clients, you know, coordinate
their next interior design. But a lot of the time
that stock is you know, display furniture, so we try
and use it for our services.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (14:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
And if you've got a big warehouse where you've just
got all this stuff, is that how it works? And
you buy it or do you buy it as you
get these new properties?

Speaker 5 (14:46):
How does that work?

Speaker 7 (14:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (14:47):
So we're Stylis's been around for a few years now
and we actually have our own warehouse and we can
actually do up to sixty houses at a time. So yeah,
I know, I know, you can only imagine how many
couches we have. But yeah, definitely warehouse, Yeah, big warehouse,
and every now and again we do have to buy
that odd piece of furniture. A lot of the time

(15:08):
that's not comes directly from our warehouse.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Okay, and what are some of the latest trends?

Speaker 8 (15:13):
So right now actually seeing a big return to warmth
and softness. It's almost like a modern nod to the path.
So curve furniture is back in a big way. Texted
fabrics like boucleyer everywhere, as you might see, and we're
really leaning into those calming neutral tones like browns and
more muted variations of colors. But finally, enough, you might
see a lot of the older trends that are making
them comeback to so vintage inspired pieces, darker wood tones,

(15:36):
even a little bit of that seventies flare. But in
my opinion, it's less about going for vintage and more
about borrowing those nostalgic elements and balancing them with contemporary
styling that you see in modern day. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Absolutely, gotia sounds just like a stylist. I love it,
older terms and everything.

Speaker 5 (15:53):
It's so good.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Well, Sam, we could chat to you about this much longer,
but we do have to leave it there, but thank
you so much of your Time's.

Speaker 8 (16:00):
Thank you so much for having me on. Guys, great
to chat with you.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
Too, thank you. That's our Sam Ruins, silk stylist and
marketing coordinator at the Style Lab.

Speaker 5 (16:07):
If you want to look them up, well, those.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
Are the interviews we most enjoyed in last week's Mix
one O six point three real Estate Show. If you
love hearing about the latest trends, or you're just up
for a sticky beak, be sure to drop by for
a listen this Saturday between

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Nine and ten Jam and Rene's Real Estate Show on
Mix one O six point three
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