WHEN SHOULD YOU BE WARY OF BUILDING QUOTES?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, Cam, Well, you know that when you were
buying a house, it's very exciting. There's lots of layers
as a massive process, but it is exciting to do that.
And when people are building it is exciting as well.
But that also comes with its own processes and layers,
I suppose.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
I mean both are journeys, right yep. But when you
see when you see the foundations laid or the piece
of land cleared first, and then the footing's go in foundation,
right so, and then it comes up out of the
ground and all the bits like that just must be
so exciting if you are building like that.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Absolutely, So we're going to find out a little bit
more about all of that and say good morning to
Adam Hoble, who's principal building designer at Adam Hobold sign
an author of the book called Nail It. Adam, good morning,
Good morning guys. Now, look, for anyone who's never gone
through that process, how does a typical building quote come together?

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Because it starts with the quote mate, doesn't it?

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Yeah, yeah, look it does. It's a really important process. Obviously,
there's a lot of excite in the design phase of
a project, whether whether that's an extension, renovation type project
or a new home. But things start to get real
when you when we go through that quoting process, typically

(01:16):
people are building costs tend to be more than people
are hoping. So really important that that quoting process is
handled really thoroughly because otherwise there's there's just far too
much scope for inconsistency and error and kind of surprises

(01:36):
and more stressed in a line yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, and so is there lots of conversation sort of
backwards and forwards with builders and architects and designers about
what's included, how much? And then I don't want that,
but I do want that. What does that conversation look like?

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Well, the documentation that we issue to builders in that
quoting process is obviously really really important. People will be
familiar with the idea of sending out a set of
drawings or four plans to builders to quote. Now that
will clearly tell the builder everything need they need to
know about the scope of the project, how big it is,

(02:14):
and what are we building. But the drawings alone leaves
out a whole bunch of information that is critical to
understand what's included, and it leaves the builder guesting on
a whole bunch of things. So imagine we clearly see
that there's two bathroom, so we need to include two
toilets in this project. But there's a builder. Is it

(02:37):
a three hundred dollar toilet or is a three thousand
dollar toilet? So we need to give them instruction and
documentations in I guess a schedule that sets out a
whole bunch of allowances. There are dozens of those allowances.
You matter. In our kitchen is a prime example. Where
a kitchen could be twenty thirty thousand dollars, it could

(02:58):
be eighty or ninety thousand dollar for the journey. So
it's really clear that when we're going out to multiple
builders that they all have clear, accurate and particular information
so that when we receive those quotes, those quotes are
also really clear and consistent.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah, for sure. And when people are reviewing a building, quote, Adam,
what should they look.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Out for, Well, you need to mention make sure you
go through that process which is really thorough clear documentation.
What are the things to understand is a lot of
people make the mistake of not understanding what is excluded

(03:37):
from the from the quote. So we want to know
what's in the quote, really important to understand what is
excluded from the quote?

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Okay, and so what are some of the things that
you know, what's an example of that?

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Well, so things like things that often get missed, things
like we see we see on a quote there might
be a wardrobe, but what is the wardrobe? What is
in that? What is that wardrobe fit out? Is that
we're talking about a simple shelf with a hanging rail
or is it a full joinery fit out? So it's

(04:09):
really digging into the detail. Other things like fees. So
at the front end of the project, building projects and
care a whole bunch of government fees and the like.
So to understand what of those fees and certifying fees
are included and what is excluded?

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, all those Adam, where's the best place to get
sort of unbiased, you up to date info for both
camera and then surrounding New South Wales too.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Well, anyone going through this process will be will be
talking to a designer or an architect to help them
through that process. So you just really need to be
talking to those people about how they manage that process.
They will have relationships with builders that they work with
that they can trust and they understand the process. So

(05:00):
it's just really important to work with a team that
has the experience in the areas that you look in get.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
One hundred percent some very good advice and tips there, Adam,
thank you so much for sharing all that with us
this morning.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
You're welcome, guys, have a great weekend.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Thank you so much. That's Adam Hoble, who's principal building
designer at Adam Hoble Design.