June 23, 2025 • 50 mins
What happens when two sibling CEOs go on parental leave at the same time? In this honest and unfiltered convo, Georgie and Coopa pull back the curtain on how they’ve built their businesses — Rise & Conquer and Nu Harvest — to support this next chapter of life.
From regulating their nervous systems and prepping the podcast months in advance, to reflecting on past newborn experiences and rewriting their stories this time around — nothing’s off the table.
You’ll hear:
✨ How Georgie is manifesting a softer postpartum season
👶 The real talk on juggling business + babies
💸 Keeping an abundant mindset while on half pay
💻 Why building sustainable systems (and teams you trust) is the ultimate freedom
💗 Relationship & identity shifts, plus navigating anxious attachment as a parent
Whether you’re preparing for mat leave, thinking about slowing down, or just nosy about how founders step away without stepping out — this episode will hit!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I would like to acknowledge the traditional owners of the
land on which this episode is being recorded, the Combomb
Merry people. They've been having conversations and telling stories on
this land for thousands of years, and we show our
gratitude and respect for their contribution to our environment and culture.
(00:21):
This is Rise and Conquer, the podcast where we strive
to become the highest version of ourselves through curious conversations,
healthy mindsets, laughter, connection, and a deep desire to evolve.
I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson. Join me as we explore parenthood, business, manifestation,
(00:46):
and so much more. It's positive, it's practical, and it's
about putting you in the driver's seat of your own life.
Are you ready, Cooper, Welcome back to the Rise and
Conquered Podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Thanks for having me on my own podcast. It's good
to be back.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
It's so I thought today we would just do a
bit of an episode of like life update what we're
both doing from maternity, eternity going on, lot's going on.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
We seem to always sink, but I'm pretty sure you're
always a little bit behind me.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
So are you trying to say a copy?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
We are, my big brother, So how are you feeling
what's been happening?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Well, I'm great, I feel good. I'm the same as ever. No,
she's definitely not feeling that great. Her back is killing her.
Just uncomfortable, like as you know now, like full limbs
coming out of the belly and kicking a booting her
(02:00):
like her babies like kind of sit in her belly
more like doesn't really come out like you like, I
feel like it could be on a spine more really.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
In there squishing everything around.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
But like if a boot, like if the baby boots, Yeah,
like kicking your.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Your stuff inside. The whole thing is just so weird.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Just this week, I have like started to I feel
like my breath like I feel like I can't take
a full breath.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
You're shorter breath.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, I just feel like I like I was filming
a YouTube first morning, and I like it's like I
was like I had just walked up the stairs, but
I was just filming. That's like embarrassing. I was like, Oh,
thank god we're doing the podcast. I'm batching quite a
few of them because I'm starting to like struggle to breathe.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
No snungen yeah, snors a lot. I don't think them
no one would know I know.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
What about like, So no other updates with the pregnancy, yeah,
just anything life updates.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Now I just focus in on gym, the business, always
working on myself.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I've got the tools too, which is really cool.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
What's the current block you're working on?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Something around trust? Like I don't trust myself, So there's
some sort of belief that have installed to my files that, yeah,
that I don't trust myself, which is really weird because
that's one of my strong suits in business and my life.
(03:48):
I trust people so easily.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Where's it coming up?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Just some triggers?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Can you tell us about them?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Or not?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Really?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Well?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
They won. Yesterday that I had with a family member
got triggered, which was great. I held the conversation really
well and it was a nice ish conversation. But I
was very proud of how I handled it. The old Cooper,
before doing work would have went in fight or flight
(04:19):
mode and froze up and not been added to all
the conversation, but not held it really strong and yeah,
held my ground so really good. But I got triggered,
and then that was also good. So I got out
of it and I did some padding, regulated my emotions
(04:40):
and then I'm sreety good so like to have the
tools is like the best thing I've ever done.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Amazing Georgia, what are your life updates?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
It's new and exciting that I already know about the community.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
So I'm currently thirty weeks pregnant. Like I said, it's
a bit hard to breathe, but uncomfortable, but all good.
I have personally been working through probably the fears associated
with my medical condition with the pregnancy. I have plus
center previa, which basically just means that my plas center
(05:26):
is sitting over my cervix, which is not ideal because
that's where the baby's meant to come through. And I've
known this the whole pregnancy, but it wasn't until that
big scin that my doctor kind of sat me down
and was like, look, if it's still the same by
the end of it, you'll have to get a c
section and also maybe go to hospital on bed rest.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
What were your emotions when you heard that?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Well, I think because I had like a natural vaginal
birth with Ivy, and you know Mum had vaginal births
Ash has had them. I've never really known anyone to
have a c section except friends with an emergency C section,
and so it always sounded like very medical, very hectic,
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and so I think I was a bit scared in
the way of like, that's not what I thought. It's
not the birth. I thought I would have.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Your vision of it.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
No.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Not.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
And I'm a bit of a control you know, I
used to be a control freak. Sorry what I feel like,
I've got it.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
So it was control freak, but I'd embrace that because
it's such a good it's a good thing, I reckon.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, look, it doesn't control you, though you control.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I'm aware of that, yes, And so I think it's
just because it wasn't my expectation. I just thought I
just have a normal And I think also because with
Ivy's birth, it was quite long, and it was you know,
there was quite a few complications. I still end up
having a great birth, but I thought, oh, the second
(07:08):
time my body's going to know what to do, should
be shorter, easier, better experience. So then for that to
kind of be taken away, it was feelings of like,
you know, sadness, fear, those sorts of things. But I
feel like I've really been focusing on processing them. And
(07:29):
my current vibe is when I come on podcasts. Something
I say is I truly believe, like my soul is
here to have a human experience, and it's like the
range of human experiences. It's like the range of emotions.
I'm not here to just have like only positive, only good.
You know, we're here for challenges. We're here like to
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be shaped. And it's funny because I literally say like,
I'm here to have a range of you know, I
want to have as many experiences as possible. But then
I'm like, wait, but I wanted to berth that I've
already had. So I like a way that I'm kind
of like looking at it is like, well, it's an
experience that I get to have that I you know,
(08:11):
I wouldn't have opted for a C section, So again
being like, okay, well this is a different experience. It also,
you know, I help empower women. A lot of women
have gone through C sections. It puts me in a
position where I understand, you know, if they're going through it,
because my two friends who have had c emergency c
(08:31):
sections actually three people then really struggled kind of post
because it wasn't what they wanted. So again, having that
like perception of when I talk to people, which you know,
it's good talk to the community. And then also I'm
not going to lie the fact that I'll know the day,
like like Ash is experiencing now with like contractions maybe
(08:54):
not maybe yes, not knowing, Like the control freak of
me is like it's pretty.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Good another day.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Control al Right, I have a control prick. And so
like being like I know the date and also can
prepare there's kind of two dates I can pick from,
and so yeah, and so I've fully asked chatchy TP chatty,
let's gool them chatty like this because i know it's
(09:21):
usually around like ten am in the morning. I have
no the location. So I've fully got the birth charts
for each one, and I'm just gonna then pick the
best birth chart.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
That sounds like you're trying to be good.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I am God, good answer? How bit How fun is that?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
So, like, obviously she's going to be a LEO because
it's August. So join the class.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
What date?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
It's either probably going to be like the first or
the fourth of August.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Man, you go on the first, an't you? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I would think so.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Further away from your birthday?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah, the fourth, I know, right, my birthday is the
third of August. Guys, So she's really true. Leo taking
the limelight from me a bit crazy. But I did
ask Tatchee TP and it did say that my star sign, sorry,
my birth chart is more compatible with the first of August,
(10:18):
whereas TIMS is more compatible with the fourth. So we're
going to go there the first.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
That's just depends on what you believe. You believe that
true because the baby's still the same. It's going to
come out either way, and it's going to be the
same person, same parents. Yeah, you believe that it's going
to be different on a different date.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Well, I just think it's like fun. It's fun that
I get to pick and so I'm like just having
a bit of fun with her. But in saying that,
I am going to talk to the doctor because I
would prefer a later date just for her to be
more cooked.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
You're like, you're chicken crispy.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
So she's really chrispy because I'm not.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Sure what so what when he actually do So my original.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Due day is the twenty second of August.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Ah, so you're going to go on so my doctor
seven weeks.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
It all depends what's happening with the percenter. I don't
actually get the choice because basically, if I'm on bed rest,
it's better to get her out sooner rather than later,
because if I go into a spontaneous labor, it's not
good because he's like, if you go into a spontaneous labor,
you'll have to be fully put under. Where's otherwise, you know,
(11:35):
a normalcy section, you don't you can experience it and
have baby straight away, which I would obviously prefer.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
So there's just there's all challenged. Yeah, there's a lot
his recommendations.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yes, I've seen it. I've seen another doctor and I've
done my research. It's funny because my current doctor he
was away, he was getting married. He's really right. He's
very personable, very respecting of you know, why can I ask.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
You a personal question? Sure? Why did you choose a
male observation?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
So interesting? I know Tim was shocked by this too.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I'm pretty sure everyone would be.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
But so I had it was just like a download.
It was just like a intuitive He's the one I
had followed him on Instagram because I've seen like a
couple other people went with him, like Sasha. It was
Sasha's for summer and quite a few people were like,
(12:38):
he's amazing, He's really good. And so I had such
a good birth experience with Ivy through the public system,
so it was even weird for me to be like, oh, no,
I want to go private. But again it was like
this intuitive like no, I want to go private this
time again to have a different experience was now it
makes sense with all like the complications. And then I
(13:01):
don't know, I was like looking at all the doctors.
I'm at Pindhara Private Hospital and there's a couple of
female doctors and I don't know, I just like vibed
with him, good energy, very personable.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
You met other people or you only met him?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, no, I've met them, yeah, the other girls. Yeah.
And also for example, like Iazy had a female doctor
from Pindara and like just like you know, talking off
recommendations and stuff, yep, and yeah, I don't know called intuition,
but also what like a cool thing to show that
I've probably like cleared a lot of my whole yeah
(13:43):
male things.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah definitely.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Well it kind of makes sense because you hold dad
as such a strong figure in your life, and you've
always been as a bit of a feminist or a feminist,
so it is. Yeah, it's great that you are stepping
into your true self. Yeah, and allowing.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Different, allowing a man to take care of me.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Because I find it weird because I don't know, it's
a male down there.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
It's it's weird. I know, it's just like so that yeah,
that would be. Yeah. I know.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Tim was also like kind of odd, but I'll go
with it. And then Tim met him to him, I
was like, yeah, no, he's really good. So it's doctor Moffrey,
doctor Drew Moffrey what I'm seeing. And yeah, so he's
very personable and very like, you know, let's just wait
till the skin and I don't want you to get
like worked up. I don't want you to like think
worst case you can still you know, have a natural birth.
(14:44):
And it's so funny because he was away he got
married and so I had like a step in doctor
for one of my appointments. And he's obviously like a
bit on the spectrum, a bit just like usual doctor
when they just like say it how it is and
they kind of don't have like bed mannerisms. And he
looked at my chart and he goes, oh, there's no way,
(15:04):
zero percent chance you're having a natural birth. I was like, horrible,
I know, because I still have hope that the placenta
is just gonna shoot up.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
And I gave you a five percent chances thing.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
He was a one percent.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
One percent.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yeah, but like I would be the one percent.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah, you always get everything. That's cool. So yeah, he's
an answer.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, he's a good doctor. But again he's like, just
don't stress, let's see what happens. But it was good
that I found out because I've been able to mentally prepare,
prepare with work, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yeah, I get I have very a bit opinionated with
doctors and birth ins and just what I've heard and seen.
That's what they do with the placenta after you give birth.
They the hospitals make money off it. So I'm just
always everyone just be cautious and trust who you're going with.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Are you gonna get your placenta?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Made into tablets?
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I did that with IVY.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, yeah, we did it with Prim.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
It's okay. Did ASH take them?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
When I stopped, it's like I had eight coffees. Yeah,
they were like hectic.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I didn't feel anything, but a look at Prim. Good ivy,
they're going to have a little black tea or six
red balls.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Literally. You know what's so interesting. I'm currently reading Joe
Despenz's book Superhuman, and he tells this story about a
little girl who got a heart transplant. She was like ten,
and she got a heart trans plant from an eight
year old girl, and the eight year old girl was
(17:03):
actually murdered. I think it was in the Ukos I
know he does reference it. But the ten year old
girl was having vivid dreams of being murdered to the
point where she had to go see a psychiatrist and
then the police got involved and the murder was never solved.
(17:24):
The police got involved and she described everything that was
happening in her dreams and they found the murderer.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
That is so cool.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Isn't that the core thing?
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Ever?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Because Joe Spencer talks about like how much our body
like literally our physical you know heart, you know physical
things which I know you would totally believe this imprints, memories,
traumas and what not. So she had a heart transplant
because she had the little girl's heart who got murdered.
(17:57):
She fully experienced what she experienced because it like wasn't
put to rest.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Wow, that is so cool true story. Definitely believe it.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
So it makes sense that Ivy's placenta was hectic.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Yeah, and that's why I went to sleep. Yeah, that's
why it's really week. She's pretty fiery. She's pretty fiy girl.
When she doesn't get away.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Come like Ivy, but like yeah, you're like, holy craps
chilled and just like yeah, she's really relaxed.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
But like when when she's born again, she's.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Twenty fourth August, she's got some fire.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah, I love that. Anyway, let's get into maternity paternity.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Leap five minutes on me, half an hour few all right.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Gods, that's the end of the episode. So I think
I've just had quite a few gems being like, what
do you guys doing You're going on leave at the
same time, what does it look like?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I'm just not worried because we've set the businesses up
in a way where we can step away, Like obviously
we have been some like I've been really prepping with
the podcast and what not. But I don't know, I
don't feel stressed.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Well, I kinda.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I will still have to pay everyone, do the finances
and that side of things.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
You'll still be like somewhat pretty much.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Doing my exact scene, but just on my laptop at home.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah. So yeah, my job.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Role won't change at all, really, I just won't be
in there but to the office, probably be on the phone.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Anyway, yeah, taking meetings, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Just spending time with Ash and the kids. And I'll
still go to gym every morning every morning, yeah I
need to I'm not good, and then hot yoga every
couple of weeks. I'll still go to golf, and my
life is going to be exact same, but I won't go.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
In to work so rude, so rude. And then there's
Ashley is going to have a little baby on a titty.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yeah, but as long as they're okay. Now, like someday,
if I have bad sleep, I won't go to gym
and then I just I don't know, they come first,
and then I'll just do my own stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
But Ashes, like, because ash is a stay at home mum,
So it's like, yeah, will much change for her apart
from like the constant needs of a newborn.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Nah, So you're exact same.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Set your lives up very well in regards to like,
it's not a big deal.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah, yeah, we've been like molding we like in the business.
For us to step away, that was our goal. That
was my goal as well from the day. Don't really
And now we've got really good managers involved and we
trust them with everything is so easy they do that
thing like you having Chance. I swear I just talked
(21:12):
to Chance now about anything business related. You're very heavily
into the podcast and R and C. Yeah, she's ands
and h and just just wax and yeah, we're able
to go away, but you still need to check in
and I want to and I know you would want
(21:35):
it as well, just to check in and updates. But
it's like easy as much as I don't know if
anyone hear that, but.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Like, yeah, let's be honest, can because set our lives
up so it can be easy.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Yeah, Like we've gone through the hard yards to get here,
and like not too long ago, the business was struggling
and little bit because of I don't know each thing's economy.
We just we didn't have new products going like there
was and there's a few internal things. So we had
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to be that and built it back up to where
it should be and like it's it's still going strong.
Because of us, she's strong and now she's strong again,
and it's like we've planned it this whole time so
we can go on mat leave. So yeah, you still
got to be in there. We just yeah, have moldered
(22:35):
in our lives to make it.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
That way.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
A little bit different though, because I want to have
a different experience with Ivy's newborn experience. Because I came
back to work like eight weeks after yeah, and that
was my choice. It wasn't like I was needed at work.
It was like we were all surprised, get me, get
me back to work. I really struggled with my identity.
(23:03):
I really struggled with the newborn stage, which I've been
very open about.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
But I'm really interested.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
I see what happens.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
To see what happens.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
You're in a way different place mentally. Everything liked you
weird me out all the time.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
IOP is always like, relax. Why are you so like
chill and relaxed.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I'm like, when the business was a bit tough, I'm like,
you could go under George yeah, and I'm like it's
just gonna work out. I'm like, bitch, fucking wake up.
We need to get this shit going.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Oh, we just gonna it's just gonna go under. You're
so driven, Cooper realistically mean business. I know, but anything
could happen. I know, I know my businesses, I know myself,
and I know that would never happen. So Cooper's like
(23:59):
freaking out, and.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I was like I was freaking out.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Just relax. I was like, read this book, You'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yeah, that really helped me.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
And then he was like, you're you can be a
little bit like bil. Yeah, I don't think we can
say that, you can be a bit up and down.
Like Cooper has these like highs and lows in his personality,
and I feel like I'm a lot more baseline, but
I don't feel different ways. A bit like I get
(24:28):
jealous because you really feel the highs, but you feel the.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Really high and low. Yeah, but my lows were really.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
You're a bit more consistent. But I'm like pretty baseline,
like shit's going down and I'm like, sweet, well, I
think that was the experience recently.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
But I think we're all.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I've been feeling really good and really been putting things
in place. So like, for example, the podcast is prepped
up till feb like we literally have an episode. It's
still feb and what are we in, like July June? Sorry,
we're in June because the first half a year I
did go quite hard though, like I went to Melbourne,
(25:12):
Sydney and we you know, prepped episodes. I was doing
all the things. Yeah, but it's because I was very
like I want to be able, because what I've said
to the team is like it's not like I'm going
to be like out of the picture. You can still call, texts, email.
I want to be in the loop of everything. It's
(25:33):
just like, don't expect an instant reply, don't expect me
to be in the office, and don't expect any recordings,
photo shoots or like fresh content. So like I still
want to be I still want you to communicate with me.
I still want to know what's happening in the business.
I still want to be involved in decisions. But also
(25:55):
this very kind of if I want to be out
for six months, like everything sorted and it's not like
a big thing, but like, I don't think that's going
to happen because I love what I do so much.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Maybe three months, maybe pretty long.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
I know it's a long time, Like I'm planning I
was going to do one month and I'm like, ah,
I can't males get I.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Remember as much as women.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I remember Tim.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I get stereotypically, but.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
I remember Tim used to be like, like, right at
the start with IVY, he was like, I'm going to
go to the shops. I'm like what for. He's like,
I don't know, I just got to go, and he
just like go on and get like milk, and then
like the next day you'd get like cereal and then
next day it's like get out of the house. So
do you get like males need to get out?
Speaker 3 (26:44):
No, I'm all talking to have maternity leave because like
the government only gives males like two weeks pay. The
women get ten weeks pay or something, which I fully
understand the recovery, and I get it that makes sad,
But to have a dad at home helping out is
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so important, very important for the child as well as
the wife or partner.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
And yeah, it.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Would be because it's like dad just go back to
work because they have to provide for the family of
their lifestyles and that sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
And it sucks that that what happens, what's normalized. But
I did not want that, so I've molded my life
not to do that.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yeah, yeah, it's so exciting to see what happens. Yeah,
I know, I'm excited just to see like how I
feel and what I want to do. And I think
another thing too, with Ivy's newborn stage, she was like
very separate. It was like work, and then I was
a mom at home, was like this time, I kind
of want to mesh the identities a bit more and
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be just like a bit more fluid, which is what
you can do in your own business where it's like
if I do want to pop in for the marketing meeting,
like I can just her and it not be this
whole thing. Whereas I was like.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Well to do that, what are you going to? Are
you going to do sleep training? Because if you do
that sort of thing, you can't do sleep training.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Yeah, I'm not too worried about the sleep training. It
depends if she's got colic or.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah, but if I need to.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Let's say they do, she's got whoa sweet baby has something? Yeah,
but that's the like Ash hasn't done sleep training for
each kid, and they're such good sleepers. Later on, look
at Ivy was really good.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Look at her personalities.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
You can't keep saying that.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Guys, you don't understand. Cooper has these like angel children who,
like prim is like fifteen months old, and she just
sits there. She just looks at you. She just cuddles you,
She just eats.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
But do you know why I not just like randomly
getting three good kids.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
It's called having good parents and the parents.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Are you trying to say I'm not a good parent.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
No, I'm saying you're crazy, and that's rubbing off.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
I hope, I hope this child's a bit crazy just
for the sake of you need it.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I just don't. I don't know. I don't think it will.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
But even if he will, I think he will calm
him down because me and Ash are just so calm.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah. Cooper and Ash are like the most chillous people
to the point where I'm like, hello, I'm.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Not that chilled. Like Ash is pretty chilled.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
So she's very loving and very man Yeah. Yeah, she's
born to be a born to be a mom. Yeah,
and we're like forgone. She's reading that book as well,
and I asked her, like to read this paragraph of
your purpose, And as you read it, it asks you,
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like what you purpose, but it says it in it obviously,
you know, like a way that you whatever you think
is your purpose straight away, like it just yeah, and
hers was yeah straight away, I am here to be
a mum.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
She totally is not so vite sweet ash. Then all right,
well let's get in some questions. I hope that answered.
It's like very much on the fly for me. We'll
see what happens. I'll like that.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Crazy gonna add three crazy girls.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Okay, So a couple of questions from the community. This
is a good one. This is like abundance academy vibes.
How do we maintain an abundant mindset when we go
on half pay? So she's like obviously taking maternal leave
for a longer time, so she has to go on
half pay. Does she maintain abundant mindset?
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Well, I always like to look at giving yourself more space.
So like when that sort of thing happens, you straight
away go into panic and you think we're not going
to be able to afford. And then the instinct is
straight away, how we're going to cut cross? How are
we going to do this? We're not going to be
able to do it. So you're already telling yourself you're
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not going to be able to survive and you're going
to be working on a budget, and like.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
That's that's going to be your reality. Like that's it.
So it's to.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Just believe that you're not going to go into that state.
But to get into that state is like, yeah, we
were talking about before, it's meditation and just to relax
your mind. And then once you've done that, then you're
able to trust the process and something just stuff just
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happens works out. It's like magic kind of happens. And
I have been wrestling with this for the last six
months and it has taken me a while. So foreveryone
it's not like just a one day fix. You're like,
I believe I'm going to be rich now.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Money is going to come in.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
It's yeah, consistently believing in yourself that something is going
to come.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Well, I think, what do you reckon?
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Like the answer to anything is like, sorry, the answer
to any desire that you would have. So her desire
is like, I want to feel abundant even if I'm
getting paid half the amount. It's like, well, you need
to be an energetic match to that. And so the
example like, for example, let's say if you want to
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feel peace, and less anxiousness. But then you're in this
constant energy of like rushing or overbooking your schedule or
saying things like I never have enough time. Can you
see how like that energy does not match the outcome
that you want. So like in this example of like
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I want to feel abundance, even them getting paid you know,
half whatever, it's like, well, let's say, how would you
feel if you were going on maternity leave and getting
paid the full amount or like double or like, I
don't know whatever you want to play with, Like what
would that feeling be? You would be like match that,
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I'm sorted. Everything is like I'm so supported during this period.
And this is actually for me with my newborn stage,
I've been really and that's why you probably like, oh
my god, why is Georgie so relaxed? Is because I've
been embodying the energy I want in the newborn stage now. Yeah,
And it's like it is about this.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
How does someone get to that point? Well, they feel
good to say that they need to do.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
The nervous system regulation. So if you are feeling panicked,
if you are feeling in survival, it's the ift tapping,
sorry padding, it's the meditation it's taking yourself out of
the panic in fear and being like, that's an illusion
that's not actually real. What is real?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Sorry? Has this lady done that aboutance academy?
Speaker 1 (34:19):
No, I would highly recommend she does that. Oh, I
don't know. Sorry, it's just like a random thing. So
one hundred percent first thing to the abundant academy. But
if we're just talking on the fly here, I would
be telling her to like sit in the energy of
feeling like she's supported, it's worked out, and being making
decisions from that way, not making decisions from I'm getting
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paid less, I have to go on a budget, et cetera,
et cetera. Because, like you said, if that's what you
lean into, then that's the reality you'll get.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Yeah. Cool.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Next question, how do Oh, this is probably one more
for me. How do you deal with the foe in
your career and it changing your relationship to work after what?
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Sorry?
Speaker 1 (35:07):
So I think what she's trying to say is like,
for example, I've experienced this with being like, oh, if
I take six months twelve months off my career for
maternity leave, what's going to happen to my career? You know?
For me, it's like Am I going to be less
relevant on Instagram? Am I going to be behind in
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my career? I feel like you won't resonate with this. Yeah,
I get what this person is saying because I had
these feelings even like taking time. I've never taken like
a month of social media ever, Like I've consistently posted,
I've consistently shown up. And I was thinking about it
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the other day, and it's because it's probably comes from
that fear of like will I be relevant? You know,
will I lose the community? And like that's I can see,
like that's obviously that's so fear. So it's like a
similar energetic question where it's like, well, what do you
want to be true? Do you want it to be
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true that you take this time off and you do
fall behind? Or do you want it to be true.
So something I've been leaning into is like I take
this time off and I'm so filled up from my
experience and just like my evolution in that six months
that I come back to work and it's like then
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what I do moving forward is like tenfold and it
catapults me because I took that time off, yep. And
that's the charge, that's the belief I'm leaning into so
it's like it doesn't exist.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yep, that's a good answer.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Next person asks what have you done in your biz
to set yourself up for the time off. We kind
of answered this, but it's just like honestly getting in
good team.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yeah, all this is.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
A good one. Cup Tips for keeping your relationship alive
postpartum postpartum, Yeah, so after baby's here, keeping the spark
alive relationship.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
I like, I just love spending time with Ash, Like
our relationship is the easiest thing ever, but it needs
a lot of work.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
So it's time time.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Just really because you've got to understand each other's love language,
Like that's always the number one. So we're pretty downpat
with that and Ashes is time and mine's touch.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Just touch me knows, And.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
It's just so much easier after you know that sort
of thing, so you can help each other. But I
don't know, just embracing having a new baby, like I
love it so much, And there's a new human in
your world that you've got to look after that's completely
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useless and would.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Die without you.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
It's so crazy how humans are just so pathetic, but
every other animal on this planets upper walks.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Like little potatoes.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Yeah, so it's but I love that because you're so
involved from the day dot and you hare this little
baby cute Like I love that stage. But then like
when it when the baby's one years.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Old, Yeah, it has a personality.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Crueling that's a dad thing. But yeah, at the start,
like you've got another new member to your family.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
So I think it also like excepting that, it's going
to look different, do you know what I mean? Like,
it's like, obviously it's different because I'm guessing this person
is maybe not had a baby yet. So it's like
you've gone from this stage where you guys can do
whatever you want, whenever you want, date nights, whenever you
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want going out, having time if you need time, you know,
doing that for your relationship to then you know, having
this baby that needs you consistency, if the I don't
know if she's breastfeeding, like there's you know, there's a
lot of different things. So it's not going to look
exactly like the previous relationship. But embracing that new relationship
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and what.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
That looks like, I'm probably got to look more when
I had Body. When we had Body, yeah, it was hectic,
so it was fucked well I was twenty one. Yeah,
you were very like twenty one year old with a kid.
I wouldn't advise it, but it was the best thing
that happened to me because it really catapulted me to
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actually step up get my shit sorted, which I didn't
didn't for a while young and I just didn't plan it.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Is that in my life, very young.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
But luckily our dash but.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Not like probably not like that situation, but just in general.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Yeah, it's you just gotta take time with one another,
like a new baby. Even get your mum or dad
and nanny and granted to come over and have them
for like a couple hours, so you and your partner
can go and spend some alone time.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Like that's key in a relationship.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Kind of just time you need. Yeah, yeah, you need
time and space. Otherwise, if you're just looking after the
baby all the time, Yeah, you'll get frustrated.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
You'll lose your ship.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Well that's like me and Tim Will. We used to
actually be pretty still big on like date nights and
stuff when I was little, but now because she's at
an age where she's like, no, I don't want to
be looked after and like can vocalize it. So like
we don't really do that anymore, but you just go.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
On twenty holidays.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Yeah, it's lots of fun. He loves her.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Don't go to a restaurant. I want to go away.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Shut up. But like, for example, yesterday me and Tim
when it had lunch because she was at Kinney, so
like it's nice. Or if she's napping on the weekend,
we'll be.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Like leave it home and go out.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Yeah, we'll just hit the down. No, we'll be like,
let's order uber eats and like sit down and like
you know, watch a movie. No, so we can have
like date night but at home a date lunch. Let's
order rubrets and not get her anything.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
We try and sneak away from their kids. We've got
three credits running around it.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
We just can't.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
She follows us.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Yeah, well because we've going to go finds us first.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Then he's probably it's probably fine with three because like
they could somewhat entertain each other.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Yeah, it does get better in different ways, but you'll
find that out.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Next question interesting one. I think we have different opinions
on this. So someone said mine is around anxious attachment
to my kids. I don't trust anyone to care for them,
so I don't ever spend time away from them. How
do you have confidence in things like this? I think
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it depends on the child too, because Ivy was very
independent from the start because I went back to work,
so like naturally she kind of had to be. And
Tim is a very male Yeah, like he's not you
know like she.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
It's like the worst.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
No, don't say that. No, So, like he's been always
been very like oh, like just they'll be out, let
it go. Yeah, she's just like off doing her thing.
He's not like he's the opposite to a helicopter parent.
He's just like, yeah, let her do a thing, like
she'll figure it out. And she's like two. So she's
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always been very independent, always very outwardly confident in herself,
goes up to people, can articulate herself, like, guys, we
were at my granddad's funeral. You want that? And she
was like did I tell you?
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Yes? Yeah, it was on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Oh yeah. So she literally like, my mum has four
sisters and they were doing the whole like describing granddad's life,
and she literally went up there and was like I
want to speak on the microphone, Like this three year
old in front of a whole audience funeral, and was
like tugging on my mum and was like I want
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to have a turn, like she's so and then she
literally got the microphone and she goes, my name is
Ivy and I'm having a baby sister, and then everyone
like cheers, and Tim was so embarrassed, and I was like, oh,
just let her go. She's fine. But she's like she's
very confident, So I feel confident in her around people
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and like things like Kindie. She gets to Kindy, she's
like see a mom and she runs and plays with
the kids like she's not very like clinging on me
or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
You can really resonate with that person because you haven't done.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
It so well, that's well, that's what I'm saying. I
that's my experience because of her. But I haven't experienced
a child that's super anxiously attached to.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Me, so I would the child at all. It's all you.
You're so free flowing. Tim's so free flowing.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Yeah, accept and confidence that she's going to make the
right choice.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
And also from a young age, we had like Mum
would always look after Ivy even from a baby stage.
And because I have one hundred percent trust in mom
because she raised four kids and she's so maternal. I
never had issues, do you know what I mean? Like
I was like, oh, yeah, it's mum.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
It would just be because Ash was more of a
very cautious and anxious with the kids going anywhere and
running too far ahead in the shops and always has
to have her eyes on her, So that it just
comes down to your fears. It's not really the kid
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or anything, it's the parent, and it's just you have
too much anxiety that something's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Fears.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
Yeah, that's something will happen, and you will just always
be that person until you work on yourself really in
your ways, and then you'll put that anxiety onto your kids.
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
So like what did she say? What is the question?
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Well, she's like, how do I deal with like trusting
other people with my kids and letting them be with
other people or whatever?
Speaker 2 (46:20):
You have to do work on yourself.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
Yeah, it's like, it's not it's anything towards kids or anything.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
It's because you're anxiously attached, So you would have to
work on your anxious attachment.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
Yeah, and you're in a child Yeah, you're you're and
a child wasn't safe when they were young, So you've
got anxious feelings that you're going to put on your kids. This.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Okay, we'll do quick ones, really funny. Just this is
a quick one. Will nh be inherited by your guys
babies one day? I wish, I say, I say all
the time to Jamie. I'm like you wait, I was
going to be bossing around. She'll be in here bossing
around James. I know in a couple of years it
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was like she doesn't Now I'm actually scared about.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
I don't know, I don't know. I hope not. It's
like that's a long time working.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
Yeah, I know, I like, I love having Naked Harvest,
and it'd be hard to see us not having it.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Like there's too much feelings there. I know.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
It would actually be like imagine though, in like twenty
years time and like Body and Ivy are running Naked
Harvest and it's like this mega natural well knows company.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
I've never thought of that, I know.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Me either, never, But how fun would that be?
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Yeah, you'd be like whoa.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
Yeah, because like the ultimate I thought the ultimate goal
was to do a business, and so it like that's
what I've been heard. Yeah, now thinking of it, like,
I imagine you don't want that because I love having
the team. I love having something that you've built from
the ground up and it's surviving through everything, economy changes
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and that sort of thing. And then for your kids
to take over. I never thought of it'd be a
bit more cool. I'd be such a funny vibe, maybe
sweet bony.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
Bods doing it.
Speaker 3 (48:35):
He's already said, He's like, yeah, I want to work
with you, because like what job do you want to do,
Like you want to be a fireman or police or
just these typical things, and like, nah, I'll just work
with you. So they got packing boxes, He's like nah,
like helping you do the business.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
He would just be like upstairs chattinger.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
You'd be running it. He's got really his brain.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
Can like think of stuff and do puzzles and yeah,
those skills you into the business to get out of
a problem. Like he's got them already.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
All right.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
He can be the problem solver and Ivy can be
the face.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
Tim I think, and just hand out banana bread everyone
and then talk to every postman.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
She would love that, she would because she'd also have
to be that.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
Body wouldn't be able to control him. That was me
with Tim and tried to control him once.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Thank you so much for your questions. We hope you
loved this little, raw, honest, transparent update of the vibe
and I'm so excited to see how we go.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Yep, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
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This is Rise and Conquer, the podcast where we strive
to become the highest version of ourselves through curious conversations,
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I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson. Join me as we explore parenthood, business, manifestation,
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and so much more. It's positive, it's practical, and it's
about putting you in the driver's seat of your own life.
Are you ready, Cooper, Welcome back to the Rise and
Conquered Podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Thanks for having me on my own podcast. It's good
to be back.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
It's so I thought today we would just do a
bit of an episode of like life update what we're
both doing from maternity, eternity going on, lot's going on.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
We seem to always sink, but I'm pretty sure you're
always a little bit behind me.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
So are you trying to say a copy?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
We are, my big brother, So how are you feeling
what's been happening?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Well, I'm great, I feel good. I'm the same as ever. No,
she's definitely not feeling that great. Her back is killing her.
Just uncomfortable, like as you know now, like full limbs
coming out of the belly and kicking a booting her
(02:00):
like her babies like kind of sit in her belly
more like doesn't really come out like you like, I
feel like it could be on a spine more really.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
In there squishing everything around.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
But like if a boot, like if the baby boots, Yeah,
like kicking your.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Your stuff inside. The whole thing is just so weird.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Just this week, I have like started to I feel
like my breath like I feel like I can't take
a full breath.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
You're shorter breath.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, I just feel like I like I was filming
a YouTube first morning, and I like it's like I
was like I had just walked up the stairs, but
I was just filming. That's like embarrassing. I was like, Oh,
thank god we're doing the podcast. I'm batching quite a
few of them because I'm starting to like struggle to breathe.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
No snungen yeah, snors a lot. I don't think them
no one would know I know.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
What about like, So no other updates with the pregnancy, yeah,
just anything life updates.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Now I just focus in on gym, the business, always
working on myself.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I've got the tools too, which is really cool.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
What's the current block you're working on?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Something around trust? Like I don't trust myself, So there's
some sort of belief that have installed to my files that, yeah,
that I don't trust myself, which is really weird because
that's one of my strong suits in business and my life.
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I trust people so easily.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Where's it coming up?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Just some triggers?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Can you tell us about them?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Or not?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Really?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Well?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
They won. Yesterday that I had with a family member
got triggered, which was great. I held the conversation really
well and it was a nice ish conversation. But I
was very proud of how I handled it. The old Cooper,
before doing work would have went in fight or flight
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mode and froze up and not been added to all
the conversation, but not held it really strong and yeah,
held my ground so really good. But I got triggered,
and then that was also good. So I got out
of it and I did some padding, regulated my emotions
(04:40):
and then I'm sreety good so like to have the
tools is like the best thing I've ever done.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Amazing Georgia, what are your life updates?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
It's new and exciting that I already know about the community.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
So I'm currently thirty weeks pregnant. Like I said, it's
a bit hard to breathe, but uncomfortable, but all good.
I have personally been working through probably the fears associated
with my medical condition with the pregnancy. I have plus
center previa, which basically just means that my plas center
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is sitting over my cervix, which is not ideal because
that's where the baby's meant to come through. And I've
known this the whole pregnancy, but it wasn't until that
big scin that my doctor kind of sat me down
and was like, look, if it's still the same by
the end of it, you'll have to get a c
section and also maybe go to hospital on bed rest.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
What were your emotions when you heard that?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Well, I think because I had like a natural vaginal
birth with Ivy, and you know Mum had vaginal births
Ash has had them. I've never really known anyone to
have a c section except friends with an emergency C section,
and so it always sounded like very medical, very hectic,
(06:16):
and so I think I was a bit scared in
the way of like, that's not what I thought. It's
not the birth. I thought I would have.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Your vision of it.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
No.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Not.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
And I'm a bit of a control you know, I
used to be a control freak. Sorry what I feel like,
I've got it.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
So it was control freak, but I'd embrace that because
it's such a good it's a good thing, I reckon.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, look, it doesn't control you, though you control.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I'm aware of that, yes, And so I think it's
just because it wasn't my expectation. I just thought I
just have a normal And I think also because with
Ivy's birth, it was quite long, and it was you know,
there was quite a few complications. I still end up
having a great birth, but I thought, oh, the second
(07:08):
time my body's going to know what to do, should
be shorter, easier, better experience. So then for that to
kind of be taken away, it was feelings of like,
you know, sadness, fear, those sorts of things. But I
feel like I've really been focusing on processing them. And
(07:29):
my current vibe is when I come on podcasts. Something
I say is I truly believe, like my soul is
here to have a human experience, and it's like the
range of human experiences. It's like the range of emotions.
I'm not here to just have like only positive, only good.
You know, we're here for challenges. We're here like to
(07:50):
be shaped. And it's funny because I literally say like,
I'm here to have a range of you know, I
want to have as many experiences as possible. But then
I'm like, wait, but I wanted to berth that I've
already had. So I like a way that I'm kind
of like looking at it is like, well, it's an
experience that I get to have that I you know,
(08:11):
I wouldn't have opted for a C section, So again
being like, okay, well this is a different experience. It also,
you know, I help empower women. A lot of women
have gone through C sections. It puts me in a
position where I understand, you know, if they're going through it,
because my two friends who have had c emergency c
(08:31):
sections actually three people then really struggled kind of post
because it wasn't what they wanted. So again, having that
like perception of when I talk to people, which you know,
it's good talk to the community. And then also I'm
not going to lie the fact that I'll know the day,
like like Ash is experiencing now with like contractions maybe
(08:54):
not maybe yes, not knowing, Like the control freak of
me is like it's pretty.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Good another day.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Control al Right, I have a control prick. And so
like being like I know the date and also can
prepare there's kind of two dates I can pick from,
and so yeah, and so I've fully asked chatchy TP chatty,
let's gool them chatty like this because i know it's
(09:21):
usually around like ten am in the morning. I have
no the location. So I've fully got the birth charts
for each one, and I'm just gonna then pick the
best birth chart.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
That sounds like you're trying to be good.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I am God, good answer? How bit How fun is that?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
So, like, obviously she's going to be a LEO because
it's August. So join the class.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
What date?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
It's either probably going to be like the first or
the fourth of August.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Man, you go on the first, an't you? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I would think so.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Further away from your birthday?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah, the fourth, I know, right, my birthday is the
third of August. Guys, So she's really true. Leo taking
the limelight from me a bit crazy. But I did
ask Tatchee TP and it did say that my star sign, sorry,
my birth chart is more compatible with the first of August,
(10:18):
whereas TIMS is more compatible with the fourth. So we're
going to go there the first.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
That's just depends on what you believe. You believe that
true because the baby's still the same. It's going to
come out either way, and it's going to be the
same person, same parents. Yeah, you believe that it's going
to be different on a different date.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Well, I just think it's like fun. It's fun that
I get to pick and so I'm like just having
a bit of fun with her. But in saying that,
I am going to talk to the doctor because I
would prefer a later date just for her to be
more cooked.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
You're like, you're chicken crispy.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
So she's really chrispy because I'm not.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Sure what so what when he actually do So my original.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Due day is the twenty second of August.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Ah, so you're going to go on so my doctor
seven weeks.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
It all depends what's happening with the percenter. I don't
actually get the choice because basically, if I'm on bed rest,
it's better to get her out sooner rather than later,
because if I go into a spontaneous labor, it's not
good because he's like, if you go into a spontaneous labor,
you'll have to be fully put under. Where's otherwise, you know,
(11:35):
a normalcy section, you don't you can experience it and
have baby straight away, which I would obviously prefer.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
So there's just there's all challenged. Yeah, there's a lot
his recommendations.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yes, I've seen it. I've seen another doctor and I've
done my research. It's funny because my current doctor he
was away, he was getting married. He's really right. He's
very personable, very respecting of you know, why can I ask.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
You a personal question? Sure? Why did you choose a
male observation?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
So interesting? I know Tim was shocked by this too.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I'm pretty sure everyone would be.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
But so I had it was just like a download.
It was just like a intuitive He's the one I
had followed him on Instagram because I've seen like a
couple other people went with him, like Sasha. It was
Sasha's for summer and quite a few people were like,
(12:38):
he's amazing, He's really good. And so I had such
a good birth experience with Ivy through the public system,
so it was even weird for me to be like, oh, no,
I want to go private. But again it was like
this intuitive like no, I want to go private this
time again to have a different experience was now it
makes sense with all like the complications. And then I
(13:01):
don't know, I was like looking at all the doctors.
I'm at Pindhara Private Hospital and there's a couple of
female doctors and I don't know, I just like vibed
with him, good energy, very personable.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
You met other people or you only met him?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, no, I've met them, yeah, the other girls. Yeah.
And also for example, like Iazy had a female doctor
from Pindara and like just like you know, talking off
recommendations and stuff, yep, and yeah, I don't know called intuition,
but also what like a cool thing to show that
I've probably like cleared a lot of my whole yeah
(13:43):
male things.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah definitely.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Well it kind of makes sense because you hold dad
as such a strong figure in your life, and you've
always been as a bit of a feminist or a feminist,
so it is. Yeah, it's great that you are stepping
into your true self. Yeah, and allowing.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Different, allowing a man to take care of me.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Because I find it weird because I don't know, it's
a male down there.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
It's it's weird. I know, it's just like so that yeah,
that would be. Yeah. I know.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Tim was also like kind of odd, but I'll go
with it. And then Tim met him to him, I
was like, yeah, no, he's really good. So it's doctor Moffrey,
doctor Drew Moffrey what I'm seeing. And yeah, so he's
very personable and very like, you know, let's just wait
till the skin and I don't want you to get
like worked up. I don't want you to like think
worst case you can still you know, have a natural birth.
(14:44):
And it's so funny because he was away he got
married and so I had like a step in doctor
for one of my appointments. And he's obviously like a
bit on the spectrum, a bit just like usual doctor
when they just like say it how it is and
they kind of don't have like bed mannerisms. And he
looked at my chart and he goes, oh, there's no way,
(15:04):
zero percent chance you're having a natural birth. I was like, horrible,
I know, because I still have hope that the placenta
is just gonna shoot up.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
And I gave you a five percent chances thing.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
He was a one percent.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
One percent.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yeah, but like I would be the one percent.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah, you always get everything. That's cool. So yeah, he's
an answer.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, he's a good doctor. But again he's like, just
don't stress, let's see what happens. But it was good
that I found out because I've been able to mentally prepare,
prepare with work, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yeah, I get I have very a bit opinionated with
doctors and birth ins and just what I've heard and seen.
That's what they do with the placenta after you give birth.
They the hospitals make money off it. So I'm just
always everyone just be cautious and trust who you're going with.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Are you gonna get your placenta?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Made into tablets?
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I did that with IVY.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, yeah, we did it with Prim.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
It's okay. Did ASH take them?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
When I stopped, it's like I had eight coffees. Yeah,
they were like hectic.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I didn't feel anything, but a look at Prim. Good ivy,
they're going to have a little black tea or six
red balls.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Literally. You know what's so interesting. I'm currently reading Joe
Despenz's book Superhuman, and he tells this story about a
little girl who got a heart transplant. She was like ten,
and she got a heart trans plant from an eight
year old girl, and the eight year old girl was
(17:03):
actually murdered. I think it was in the Ukos I
know he does reference it. But the ten year old
girl was having vivid dreams of being murdered to the
point where she had to go see a psychiatrist and
then the police got involved and the murder was never solved.
(17:24):
The police got involved and she described everything that was
happening in her dreams and they found the murderer.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
That is so cool.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Isn't that the core thing?
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Ever?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Because Joe Spencer talks about like how much our body
like literally our physical you know heart, you know physical
things which I know you would totally believe this imprints, memories,
traumas and what not. So she had a heart transplant
because she had the little girl's heart who got murdered.
(17:57):
She fully experienced what she experienced because it like wasn't
put to rest.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Wow, that is so cool true story. Definitely believe it.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
So it makes sense that Ivy's placenta was hectic.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Yeah, and that's why I went to sleep. Yeah, that's
why it's really week. She's pretty fiery. She's pretty fiy girl.
When she doesn't get away.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Come like Ivy, but like yeah, you're like, holy craps
chilled and just like yeah, she's really relaxed.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
But like when when she's born again, she's.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Twenty fourth August, she's got some fire.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah, I love that. Anyway, let's get into maternity paternity.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Leap five minutes on me, half an hour few all right.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Gods, that's the end of the episode. So I think
I've just had quite a few gems being like, what
do you guys doing You're going on leave at the
same time, what does it look like?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I'm just not worried because we've set the businesses up
in a way where we can step away, Like obviously
we have been some like I've been really prepping with
the podcast and what not. But I don't know, I
don't feel stressed.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Well, I kinda.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I will still have to pay everyone, do the finances
and that side of things.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
You'll still be like somewhat pretty much.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Doing my exact scene, but just on my laptop at home.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah. So yeah, my job.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Role won't change at all, really, I just won't be
in there but to the office, probably be on the phone.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Anyway, yeah, taking meetings, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Just spending time with Ash and the kids. And I'll
still go to gym every morning every morning, yeah I
need to I'm not good, and then hot yoga every
couple of weeks. I'll still go to golf, and my
life is going to be exact same, but I won't go.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
In to work so rude, so rude. And then there's
Ashley is going to have a little baby on a titty.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yeah, but as long as they're okay. Now, like someday,
if I have bad sleep, I won't go to gym
and then I just I don't know, they come first,
and then I'll just do my own stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
But Ashes, like, because ash is a stay at home mum,
So it's like, yeah, will much change for her apart
from like the constant needs of a newborn.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Nah, So you're exact same.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Set your lives up very well in regards to like,
it's not a big deal.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah, yeah, we've been like molding we like in the business.
For us to step away, that was our goal. That
was my goal as well from the day. Don't really
And now we've got really good managers involved and we
trust them with everything is so easy they do that
thing like you having Chance. I swear I just talked
(21:12):
to Chance now about anything business related. You're very heavily
into the podcast and R and C. Yeah, she's ands
and h and just just wax and yeah, we're able
to go away, but you still need to check in
and I want to and I know you would want
(21:35):
it as well, just to check in and updates. But
it's like easy as much as I don't know if
anyone hear that, but.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Like, yeah, let's be honest, can because set our lives
up so it can be easy.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Yeah, Like we've gone through the hard yards to get here,
and like not too long ago, the business was struggling
and little bit because of I don't know each thing's economy.
We just we didn't have new products going like there
was and there's a few internal things. So we had
(22:13):
to be that and built it back up to where
it should be and like it's it's still going strong.
Because of us, she's strong and now she's strong again,
and it's like we've planned it this whole time so
we can go on mat leave. So yeah, you still
got to be in there. We just yeah, have moldered
(22:35):
in our lives to make it.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
That way.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
A little bit different though, because I want to have
a different experience with Ivy's newborn experience. Because I came
back to work like eight weeks after yeah, and that
was my choice. It wasn't like I was needed at work.
It was like we were all surprised, get me, get
me back to work. I really struggled with my identity.
(23:03):
I really struggled with the newborn stage, which I've been
very open about.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
But I'm really interested.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
I see what happens.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
To see what happens.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
You're in a way different place mentally. Everything liked you
weird me out all the time.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
IOP is always like, relax. Why are you so like
chill and relaxed.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I'm like, when the business was a bit tough, I'm like,
you could go under George yeah, and I'm like it's
just gonna work out. I'm like, bitch, fucking wake up.
We need to get this shit going.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Oh, we just gonna it's just gonna go under. You're
so driven, Cooper realistically mean business. I know, but anything
could happen. I know, I know my businesses, I know myself,
and I know that would never happen. So Cooper's like
(23:59):
freaking out, and.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I was like I was freaking out.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Just relax. I was like, read this book, You'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yeah, that really helped me.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
And then he was like, you're you can be a
little bit like bil. Yeah, I don't think we can
say that, you can be a bit up and down.
Like Cooper has these like highs and lows in his personality,
and I feel like I'm a lot more baseline, but
I don't feel different ways. A bit like I get
(24:28):
jealous because you really feel the highs, but you feel the.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Really high and low. Yeah, but my lows were really.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
You're a bit more consistent. But I'm like pretty baseline,
like shit's going down and I'm like, sweet, well, I
think that was the experience recently.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
But I think we're all.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I've been feeling really good and really been putting things
in place. So like, for example, the podcast is prepped
up till feb like we literally have an episode. It's
still feb and what are we in, like July June? Sorry,
we're in June because the first half a year I
did go quite hard though, like I went to Melbourne,
(25:12):
Sydney and we you know, prepped episodes. I was doing
all the things. Yeah, but it's because I was very
like I want to be able, because what I've said
to the team is like it's not like I'm going
to be like out of the picture. You can still call, texts, email.
I want to be in the loop of everything. It's
(25:33):
just like, don't expect an instant reply, don't expect me
to be in the office, and don't expect any recordings,
photo shoots or like fresh content. So like I still
want to be I still want you to communicate with me.
I still want to know what's happening in the business.
I still want to be involved in decisions. But also
(25:55):
this very kind of if I want to be out
for six months, like everything sorted and it's not like
a big thing, but like, I don't think that's going
to happen because I love what I do so much.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Maybe three months, maybe pretty long.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
I know it's a long time, Like I'm planning I
was going to do one month and I'm like, ah,
I can't males get I.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Remember as much as women.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I remember Tim.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I get stereotypically, but.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
I remember Tim used to be like, like, right at
the start with IVY, he was like, I'm going to
go to the shops. I'm like what for. He's like,
I don't know, I just got to go, and he
just like go on and get like milk, and then
like the next day you'd get like cereal and then
next day it's like get out of the house. So
do you get like males need to get out?
Speaker 3 (26:44):
No, I'm all talking to have maternity leave because like
the government only gives males like two weeks pay. The
women get ten weeks pay or something, which I fully
understand the recovery, and I get it that makes sad,
But to have a dad at home helping out is
(27:06):
so important, very important for the child as well as
the wife or partner.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
And yeah, it.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Would be because it's like dad just go back to
work because they have to provide for the family of
their lifestyles and that sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
And it sucks that that what happens, what's normalized. But
I did not want that, so I've molded my life
not to do that.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yeah, yeah, it's so exciting to see what happens. Yeah,
I know, I'm excited just to see like how I
feel and what I want to do. And I think
another thing too, with Ivy's newborn stage, she was like
very separate. It was like work, and then I was
a mom at home, was like this time, I kind
of want to mesh the identities a bit more and
(27:53):
be just like a bit more fluid, which is what
you can do in your own business where it's like
if I do want to pop in for the marketing meeting,
like I can just her and it not be this
whole thing. Whereas I was like.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Well to do that, what are you going to? Are
you going to do sleep training? Because if you do
that sort of thing, you can't do sleep training.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Yeah, I'm not too worried about the sleep training. It
depends if she's got colic or.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah, but if I need to.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Let's say they do, she's got whoa sweet baby has something? Yeah,
but that's the like Ash hasn't done sleep training for
each kid, and they're such good sleepers. Later on, look
at Ivy was really good.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Look at her personalities.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
You can't keep saying that.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Guys, you don't understand. Cooper has these like angel children who,
like prim is like fifteen months old, and she just
sits there. She just looks at you. She just cuddles you,
She just eats.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
But do you know why I not just like randomly
getting three good kids.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
It's called having good parents and the parents.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Are you trying to say I'm not a good parent.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
No, I'm saying you're crazy, and that's rubbing off.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
I hope, I hope this child's a bit crazy just
for the sake of you need it.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I just don't. I don't know. I don't think it will.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
But even if he will, I think he will calm
him down because me and Ash are just so calm.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah. Cooper and Ash are like the most chillous people
to the point where I'm like, hello, I'm.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Not that chilled. Like Ash is pretty chilled.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
So she's very loving and very man Yeah. Yeah, she's
born to be a born to be a mom. Yeah,
and we're like forgone. She's reading that book as well,
and I asked her, like to read this paragraph of
your purpose, And as you read it, it asks you,
(29:59):
like what you purpose, but it says it in it obviously,
you know, like a way that you whatever you think
is your purpose straight away, like it just yeah, and
hers was yeah straight away, I am here to be
a mum.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
She totally is not so vite sweet ash. Then all right,
well let's get in some questions. I hope that answered.
It's like very much on the fly for me. We'll
see what happens. I'll like that.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Crazy gonna add three crazy girls.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Okay, So a couple of questions from the community. This
is a good one. This is like abundance academy vibes.
How do we maintain an abundant mindset when we go
on half pay? So she's like obviously taking maternal leave
for a longer time, so she has to go on
half pay. Does she maintain abundant mindset?
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Well, I always like to look at giving yourself more space.
So like when that sort of thing happens, you straight
away go into panic and you think we're not going
to be able to afford. And then the instinct is
straight away, how we're going to cut cross? How are
we going to do this? We're not going to be
able to do it. So you're already telling yourself you're
(31:25):
not going to be able to survive and you're going
to be working on a budget, and like.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
That's that's going to be your reality. Like that's it.
So it's to.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Just believe that you're not going to go into that state.
But to get into that state is like, yeah, we
were talking about before, it's meditation and just to relax
your mind. And then once you've done that, then you're
able to trust the process and something just stuff just
(31:58):
happens works out. It's like magic kind of happens. And
I have been wrestling with this for the last six
months and it has taken me a while. So foreveryone
it's not like just a one day fix. You're like,
I believe I'm going to be rich now.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Money is going to come in.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
It's yeah, consistently believing in yourself that something is going
to come.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Well, I think, what do you reckon?
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Like the answer to anything is like, sorry, the answer
to any desire that you would have. So her desire
is like, I want to feel abundant even if I'm
getting paid half the amount. It's like, well, you need
to be an energetic match to that. And so the
example like, for example, let's say if you want to
(32:50):
feel peace, and less anxiousness. But then you're in this
constant energy of like rushing or overbooking your schedule or
saying things like I never have enough time. Can you
see how like that energy does not match the outcome
that you want. So like in this example of like
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I want to feel abundance, even them getting paid you know,
half whatever, it's like, well, let's say, how would you
feel if you were going on maternity leave and getting
paid the full amount or like double or like, I
don't know whatever you want to play with, Like what
would that feeling be? You would be like match that,
(33:30):
I'm sorted. Everything is like I'm so supported during this period.
And this is actually for me with my newborn stage,
I've been really and that's why you probably like, oh
my god, why is Georgie so relaxed? Is because I've
been embodying the energy I want in the newborn stage now. Yeah,
And it's like it is about this.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
How does someone get to that point? Well, they feel
good to say that they need to do.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
The nervous system regulation. So if you are feeling panicked,
if you are feeling in survival, it's the ift tapping,
sorry padding, it's the meditation it's taking yourself out of
the panic in fear and being like, that's an illusion
that's not actually real. What is real?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Sorry? Has this lady done that aboutance academy?
Speaker 1 (34:19):
No, I would highly recommend she does that. Oh, I
don't know. Sorry, it's just like a random thing. So
one hundred percent first thing to the abundant academy. But
if we're just talking on the fly here, I would
be telling her to like sit in the energy of
feeling like she's supported, it's worked out, and being making
decisions from that way, not making decisions from I'm getting
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paid less, I have to go on a budget, et cetera,
et cetera. Because, like you said, if that's what you
lean into, then that's the reality you'll get.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Yeah. Cool.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Next question, how do Oh, this is probably one more
for me. How do you deal with the foe in
your career and it changing your relationship to work after what?
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Sorry?
Speaker 1 (35:07):
So I think what she's trying to say is like,
for example, I've experienced this with being like, oh, if
I take six months twelve months off my career for
maternity leave, what's going to happen to my career? You know?
For me, it's like Am I going to be less
relevant on Instagram? Am I going to be behind in
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my career? I feel like you won't resonate with this. Yeah,
I get what this person is saying because I had
these feelings even like taking time. I've never taken like
a month of social media ever, Like I've consistently posted,
I've consistently shown up. And I was thinking about it
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the other day, and it's because it's probably comes from
that fear of like will I be relevant? You know,
will I lose the community? And like that's I can see,
like that's obviously that's so fear. So it's like a
similar energetic question where it's like, well, what do you
want to be true? Do you want it to be
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true that you take this time off and you do
fall behind? Or do you want it to be true.
So something I've been leaning into is like I take
this time off and I'm so filled up from my
experience and just like my evolution in that six months
that I come back to work and it's like then
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what I do moving forward is like tenfold and it
catapults me because I took that time off, yep. And
that's the charge, that's the belief I'm leaning into so
it's like it doesn't exist.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yep, that's a good answer.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Next person asks what have you done in your biz
to set yourself up for the time off. We kind
of answered this, but it's just like honestly getting in
good team.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yeah, all this is.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
A good one. Cup Tips for keeping your relationship alive
postpartum postpartum, Yeah, so after baby's here, keeping the spark
alive relationship.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
I like, I just love spending time with Ash, Like
our relationship is the easiest thing ever, but it needs
a lot of work.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
So it's time time.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Just really because you've got to understand each other's love language,
Like that's always the number one. So we're pretty downpat
with that and Ashes is time and mine's touch.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Just touch me knows, And.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
It's just so much easier after you know that sort
of thing, so you can help each other. But I
don't know, just embracing having a new baby, like I
love it so much, And there's a new human in
your world that you've got to look after that's completely
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useless and would.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Die without you.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
It's so crazy how humans are just so pathetic, but
every other animal on this planets upper walks.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Like little potatoes.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Yeah, so it's but I love that because you're so
involved from the day dot and you hare this little
baby cute Like I love that stage. But then like
when it when the baby's one years.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Old, Yeah, it has a personality.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Crueling that's a dad thing. But yeah, at the start,
like you've got another new member to your family.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
So I think it also like excepting that, it's going
to look different, do you know what I mean? Like,
it's like, obviously it's different because I'm guessing this person
is maybe not had a baby yet. So it's like
you've gone from this stage where you guys can do
whatever you want, whenever you want, date nights, whenever you
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want going out, having time if you need time, you know,
doing that for your relationship to then you know, having
this baby that needs you consistency, if the I don't
know if she's breastfeeding, like there's you know, there's a
lot of different things. So it's not going to look
exactly like the previous relationship. But embracing that new relationship
(39:36):
and what.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
That looks like, I'm probably got to look more when
I had Body. When we had Body, yeah, it was hectic,
so it was fucked well I was twenty one. Yeah,
you were very like twenty one year old with a kid.
I wouldn't advise it, but it was the best thing
that happened to me because it really catapulted me to
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actually step up get my shit sorted, which I didn't
didn't for a while young and I just didn't plan it.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Is that in my life, very young.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
But luckily our dash but.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Not like probably not like that situation, but just in general.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Yeah, it's you just gotta take time with one another,
like a new baby. Even get your mum or dad
and nanny and granted to come over and have them
for like a couple hours, so you and your partner
can go and spend some alone time.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Like that's key in a relationship.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Kind of just time you need. Yeah, yeah, you need
time and space. Otherwise, if you're just looking after the
baby all the time, Yeah, you'll get frustrated.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
You'll lose your ship.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Well that's like me and Tim Will. We used to
actually be pretty still big on like date nights and
stuff when I was little, but now because she's at
an age where she's like, no, I don't want to
be looked after and like can vocalize it. So like
we don't really do that anymore, but you just go.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
On twenty holidays.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Yeah, it's lots of fun. He loves her.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Don't go to a restaurant. I want to go away.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Shut up. But like, for example, yesterday me and Tim
when it had lunch because she was at Kinney, so
like it's nice. Or if she's napping on the weekend,
we'll be.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Like leave it home and go out.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Yeah, we'll just hit the down. No, we'll be like,
let's order uber eats and like sit down and like
you know, watch a movie. No, so we can have
like date night but at home a date lunch. Let's
order rubrets and not get her anything.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
We try and sneak away from their kids. We've got
three credits running around it.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
We just can't.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
She follows us.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Yeah, well because we've going to go finds us first.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Then he's probably it's probably fine with three because like
they could somewhat entertain each other.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Yeah, it does get better in different ways, but you'll
find that out.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Next question interesting one. I think we have different opinions
on this. So someone said mine is around anxious attachment
to my kids. I don't trust anyone to care for them,
so I don't ever spend time away from them. How
do you have confidence in things like this? I think
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it depends on the child too, because Ivy was very
independent from the start because I went back to work,
so like naturally she kind of had to be. And
Tim is a very male Yeah, like he's not you
know like she.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
It's like the worst.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
No, don't say that. No, So, like he's been always
been very like oh, like just they'll be out, let
it go. Yeah, she's just like off doing her thing.
He's not like he's the opposite to a helicopter parent.
He's just like, yeah, let her do a thing, like
she'll figure it out. And she's like two. So she's
(43:24):
always been very independent, always very outwardly confident in herself,
goes up to people, can articulate herself, like, guys, we
were at my granddad's funeral. You want that? And she
was like did I tell you?
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Yes? Yeah, it was on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Oh yeah. So she literally like, my mum has four
sisters and they were doing the whole like describing granddad's life,
and she literally went up there and was like I
want to speak on the microphone, Like this three year
old in front of a whole audience funeral, and was
like tugging on my mum and was like I want
(44:05):
to have a turn, like she's so and then she
literally got the microphone and she goes, my name is
Ivy and I'm having a baby sister, and then everyone
like cheers, and Tim was so embarrassed, and I was like, oh,
just let her go. She's fine. But she's like she's
very confident, So I feel confident in her around people
(44:28):
and like things like Kindie. She gets to Kindy, she's
like see a mom and she runs and plays with
the kids like she's not very like clinging on me
or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
You can really resonate with that person because you haven't done.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
It so well, that's well, that's what I'm saying. I
that's my experience because of her. But I haven't experienced
a child that's super anxiously attached to.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Me, so I would the child at all. It's all you.
You're so free flowing. Tim's so free flowing.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Yeah, accept and confidence that she's going to make the
right choice.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
And also from a young age, we had like Mum
would always look after Ivy even from a baby stage.
And because I have one hundred percent trust in mom
because she raised four kids and she's so maternal. I
never had issues, do you know what I mean? Like
I was like, oh, yeah, it's mum.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
It would just be because Ash was more of a
very cautious and anxious with the kids going anywhere and
running too far ahead in the shops and always has
to have her eyes on her, So that it just
comes down to your fears. It's not really the kid
(45:47):
or anything, it's the parent, and it's just you have
too much anxiety that something's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Fears.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
Yeah, that's something will happen, and you will just always
be that person until you work on yourself really in
your ways, and then you'll put that anxiety onto your kids.
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
So like what did she say? What is the question?
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Well, she's like, how do I deal with like trusting
other people with my kids and letting them be with
other people or whatever?
Speaker 2 (46:20):
You have to do work on yourself.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
Yeah, it's like, it's not it's anything towards kids or anything.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
It's because you're anxiously attached, So you would have to
work on your anxious attachment.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
Yeah, and you're in a child Yeah, you're you're and
a child wasn't safe when they were young, So you've
got anxious feelings that you're going to put on your kids. This.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Okay, we'll do quick ones, really funny. Just this is
a quick one. Will nh be inherited by your guys
babies one day? I wish, I say, I say all
the time to Jamie. I'm like you wait, I was
going to be bossing around. She'll be in here bossing
around James. I know in a couple of years it
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was like she doesn't Now I'm actually scared about.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
I don't know, I don't know. I hope not. It's
like that's a long time working.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
Yeah, I know, I like, I love having Naked Harvest,
and it'd be hard to see us not having it.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Like there's too much feelings there. I know.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
It would actually be like imagine though, in like twenty
years time and like Body and Ivy are running Naked
Harvest and it's like this mega natural well knows company.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
I've never thought of that, I know.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Me either, never, But how fun would that be?
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Yeah, you'd be like whoa.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
Yeah, because like the ultimate I thought the ultimate goal
was to do a business, and so it like that's
what I've been heard. Yeah, now thinking of it, like,
I imagine you don't want that because I love having
the team. I love having something that you've built from
the ground up and it's surviving through everything, economy changes
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and that sort of thing. And then for your kids
to take over. I never thought of it'd be a
bit more cool. I'd be such a funny vibe, maybe
sweet bony.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
Bods doing it.
Speaker 3 (48:35):
He's already said, He's like, yeah, I want to work
with you, because like what job do you want to do,
Like you want to be a fireman or police or
just these typical things, and like, nah, I'll just work
with you. So they got packing boxes, He's like nah,
like helping you do the business.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
He would just be like upstairs chattinger.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
You'd be running it. He's got really his brain.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
Can like think of stuff and do puzzles and yeah,
those skills you into the business to get out of
a problem. Like he's got them already.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
All right.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
He can be the problem solver and Ivy can be
the face.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
Tim I think, and just hand out banana bread everyone
and then talk to every postman.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
She would love that, she would because she'd also have
to be that.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
Body wouldn't be able to control him. That was me
with Tim and tried to control him once.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Thank you so much for your questions. We hope you
loved this little, raw, honest, transparent update of the vibe
and I'm so excited to see how we go.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Yep, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
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