March 3, 2025 • 23 mins
In this episode Georgie and her brother Coopa reveal deeply personal childhood family history and how it lead to the masks they wore as adults. Together they explain why dropping the masks is so difficult but why it's critical in becoming your most authentic and magnetic self. If you put in the work you will feel the freedom.
This concept was covered in greater detail in the 'Your Magnetic Blueprint' course that was offered at the beginning of the year. Explore the course HERE and use the discount code ALIGNED to learn how to strip off your masks and become magnetic AF!
Discover the Rise App HERE
Join the Rise & Conquer Facebook group here.
Follow the Rise & Conquer Instagram here.
Discover Rise & Conquer courses here.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
I would like to acknowledge the traditional owners of the
land on which this episode is being recorded, the Combomb
Merry people. They've been having conversations and telling stories on
this land for thousands of years, and we show our
gratitude and respect for their contribution to our environment and culture.
(00:25):
This is Rise and Conquer, the podcast where we strive
to become the highest version of ourselves through curious conversations,
healthy mindsets, laughter, connection, and a deep desire to evolve.
I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson. Join me as we explore parenthood, business, manifestation,
(00:51):
and so much more. It's positive, it's practical, and it's
about putting you in the driver's seat of your own life.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Are you ready? Hello, guys, we are back in the
studio and I am joined by Cooper Stevenson, my brother,
co founder of Naked Hello. So you guys loved the
previous episode with Cooper. So's he's back in. He's been promoted.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I don't think we're a lot to swear on this podcast.
Actually we do. We absolutely do, but you know some
moms have kids anyway, apologies about that. I want to
go straight in your magnetic Blueprint was the course that
we hosted at the start of the year, and it
is a course about setting goals, but it's also you know,
(01:45):
it's a fourteen day course, so it's like a mini course,
and for the first seven days we're really asking you
questions that help you uncover maybe some masks you've been
wearing and some things that you have been doing that
you don't actually want to do, and the person like
you don't actually want to be, but it's from you thinking,
(02:07):
maybe from childhood or like how you're brought up or school,
that you have to be that person in order to
get something. We're really smart, and it's this coping mechanism
where it's like, well, if i'm this person, I'll get
this outcome. We tend to do it as children, you know,
to get our parents to act a certain way or
(02:28):
be a certain way, or that's just what we think
we have to do to survive or whatnot. And then
we carry these masks as we get older, but they
tend to get heavy, and we tend to get burnt out,
and we tend to not like our lives because we're
almost like living it for other people, or like living
it from wounds so look pretty deep first seven days
(02:50):
of the course, and then the last seven days you're
making goals. So it's super fun. That course is actually
still available if you guys want to do it. I
think we might even put like a discaln code. Yeah,
we'll we'll do a dissy for you if you want
to do it. Just because I know it's probably a
couple months into the air, but Cooper, I wanted to
ask you and get this conversation rolling of some mass
(03:13):
that you worn when you were younger or even now,
and like the coping mechanisms, just so people can understand
and get some examples and start getting their brain thinking
of like, oh, where am I actually doing life from
this very unconscious wounded state.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Maybe you go.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
The biggest one for me was very interesting. We grew
up in a family four children. I felt like I
didn't have much attention from mom and dad because they
worked so hard. You know, Mum had four children, She
didn't have a cleaner, she didn't have help, so she
was like always busy doing shit. Dad was obviously working
(03:57):
all the time. It was fun to play with my brothers,
but they're my brothers, Like I don't actually really care
for their attention, and so I developed this coping mechanism.
I felt very average, don't get me wrong, Like my parents,
I feel like they loved me so much, and like
I didn't feel unloved. And also when I was younger,
(04:19):
I tried a whole bunch of like sports, gymnastic, dancing,
and I didn't feel good at anything, Like I didn't
excel at anything. I wasn't that smart in school, I
felt like I didn't get a lot of praise for things.
And then when I got older, because I know, shut up,
(04:39):
I'm still upset about it.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
It still because we know what gets dad's attention anyway.
But what well this let me tell you why.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
So it literally didn't happen until I was older in
high school, and I decided I wanted to be a
lawyer because I watched Legally Blond and all. So our
oldest brother's girlfriend at the time was from like a
low socio economic family, and she said she was doing law,
(05:10):
and I remember thinking, fuck, are you no? But I
remember thinking, oh my god, like if she can do law,
surely I can do it. That's really toxic. Surely I
can do law. And so we were brought up, we
were so I then started doing really well at school.
Told mom and dad I wanted to be a lawyer,
(05:31):
and I got so much attention, Like I remember Die
being drunk telling random people, my daughter's going to be
a lawyer. She's so smart. And I was like, this
is amazing. This is the attention that I always wanted
as a child, you know, getting when I'm older. So I,
you know, I do my law degree work really hard.
(05:53):
Honestly it was very draining, but I was like, I
got to finish this degree. Meanwhile, I'm doing my social media.
I'm earning money from my social media. And our parents
are very financially focused because they came from like a
low socio economic background, so like money means survival. Money
is important to them.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I started to get also a lot of praise from
mom and dad for earning money while I was like
at UNI and also super toxic too. I started getting
so much praise when I got really skinny from mom
and dad that it does make sense. Basically, my mask
was overachieving.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Great, I don't have one. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I know when you're like I've got nothing, I'm looking
at you, like, what are you talking about? You're like
the most wounded person growing up, So let me finish
one and then you can do yours. So I developed overachieving,
and so that's why I was doing law. Started making
money off social media, but like good money, like no
(07:00):
one else was making that sort of money. I got
like as skinny as possible, Like it was like everything
I did to the extreme because of the praise that
I got from people around me. And so I basically
then made every decision based off getting that praise and
approval from people. And I continued to make those decisions literally,
(07:24):
probably not until what like a couple of years ago.
I continued the high overachieving. I continued every time we'd
see Dad, he'd be like, how much money do you
end this week? He still kind of does it now.
But I actually remember when I was going through this
and realizing such a huge mass for me was this
overachieving and how burnt out and how like I was like,
(07:47):
I just don't want to be this person anymore. I
don't want to live for everyone else. And that's why
I had such a journey with like you know, with
my weight becoming just like my weight now and all
these things. It's almost like I was pushing against people,
being like, no, fuck you, I'm going to be who
I want to be and I'm not going to fit
inside your box. That was a huge thing for me.
(08:10):
Like I remember I even wanted to like dye my
head brown because I knew Dad loved blonde, you know,
like weird shit like that, Like I feel weird saying
that by that makes sense. It makes sense. And so
you go through this thing where it's like I don't
want to be what everyone thinks I need to be.
(08:35):
Even what we're talking about in our previous episode of
like this year not having as many stresses, definitely recommend
you guys listening to that. It was a good ee.
We just like we talked a lot of shit, but
there were some great points in it.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Which.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
And then.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Well look real that was Georgia last year and I'm
still just paying for the consequences this year. Anyway, at
the moment, it's like what am I actually? You know,
what do I want? Even you know, with my followers
on Instagram or whatnot, Like it was very much how
can I be the most relatable person so everyone likes
(09:11):
me on Instagram? How can I fit the size so
everyone likes me on Instagram. I was just trying to
fit myself in a box so much, but I got
so tired, so exhausted. I developed physical things, like I
had a thio disease, which I've now actually completely reversed.
And even if you think about it, it's an autoimmune
(09:32):
disease where your body is attacking itself. Like I got
to the point where I was doing so many things
for other people's approval, it's like my body started attacking itself.
Like that's not normal for your body to do that,
and so I had to really do some deep work
to figure this all out and I did that.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Let's look at that what you've just said. Then there's
always good to bad. So having the things, having these masks,
all the good that has come out of it for
you so much good, amazing, Like look at my life now,
so grateful. You get to a point where you need
(10:12):
to transition and be like, no, I don't want to
wear this mask anymore. And it's that transition time that
you're going to get a dip because you're going into
a new reality of being the person you want to be.
So you're gonna have to go through some rough or
when you get out of it to drop the mask.
You're going to be in another journey and there's going
(10:32):
to be good from that because you've just gone into
a bit of a dip and now you get to
live your life and not have all these diseases and.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
You're not going to be full of diseases, thank god.
But even I love that you brought that up. Even
thinking about that when I was, you know, going through
being too skinny and my body was not coping, I
remember thinking, oh my god, I'm going to lose my
followers now, blah blah blah. But even if we think
about that, when I start talking about intuitive eating, when I,
you know, just was like working out and eating for
(11:05):
like what I loved, I actually gained this whole new
audience who was like, yes, thank you please, I don't
want these like people on my feed who were so
like unattainable. So it actually became like relatable and like
a friend to someone else, different people. And I think
that's with the mass situation, as you will be scared
(11:27):
to take it off because it has benefited you for
such a long time. I still work through today with
the overachieving because I have so much of my identity
in you know, I'm the big influencer who like has
the businesses and he's a girl boss and like all
those sorts of things. But I'm even noticing this year
(11:48):
I want to transition even more to like being in
my feminine and like doing things differently in business and
not working how I used to work, and obviously focusing
on family. And it's scares me because I did things
so certainly for such a long time and got such
a good result. But it's so important for us to
(12:09):
like prove to ourselves that I can take off this
mask and I can do something different and still have
an incredible outcome. See even the other day it actually
triggered me a little bit when you were like, I
don't know, I feel like you said something about like
me maybe not working as much.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Why would I say that.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
To you because you your fucking father's son.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
No doulls what Because I don't like that about myself?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah, and everything, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Doing it in myself. So I've just figured this out today.
Actually I was thinking, and I was like, I've figured
said it a few things in my head, and I'm like,
George is just not really into it.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
George is doing nothing.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Then I'm like, look at your Instagram and look at
what you're doing, and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
What the fuck am I talking about?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Literally everything, So always a reflection of yourself that you
don't like about yourself. So and then I was like,
that's why I'm changing, that's why I'm doing this, and
that's why I'm going in the business more. You should
never aly on other people to change yourself. You should
always do it. It's always in yourself.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Well, that triggered me because that was the old wound
of how Georgia. Remember how I was like a workaholic
when I was working twenty four to seven, and so
that's like it got me a certain outcome. So when
you said that to me, I was like, oh my gosh,
like maybe I need to go back to the old
self and blah blah blah. But this year, I think
you missed this part. But I'm trying to step more
on my feminine and do things in a very different way.
(13:36):
So I acknowledged that comment and did think it's more
about him than me. He's going through something. I'll let
him process it and then we'll talk about it on Monday.
Because I am doing things a different way. There's guilt
because in a transition from Mars, it feels uncomfortable, it
doesn't feel right. And so I had the initial thing
of like, oh is he right blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
And I was like no, yeah, so you got that
awareness and then you assessed it of no, that's not
what I want to do. Yes, this is what I
want to be. You're welcome process.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Thank you for triggering me. And well, that's what I
mean is like I had to be like, well, no,
I don't want to work harder to get a result.
That's not how I want to do things anymore. So
I can leave that there and yeah, realize that that's
not what I have to do. But that was a
great point for me.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
All right. So my mask when I was younger was
the exact same thing I wanted to overachieve with sport.
So I remember I was in grade one and I
did the cross country and I come first, and I
(14:54):
remember my mom just going, oh my goodness, like could
you just come first, Like we've got a son that's
really good at sport. And then told Dad and he
was stoked and he praised me and said that was
so good, Cooper. So I got love in overchieving in sports.
So from then on, I always strived to be really
(15:15):
good at sport, like I had the ability. But that
was my mask to try and get love from Dad,
and it was one. And I always did sprinting and
I did soccer, and I just always tried to get
Dad's love for that. You were very athletic, So that
was my mask. But I got into high school and
(15:36):
then I was like, I actually don't like this. It
was too much pressure. I didn't really like it, so
I stopped. And then that's when I just kind of
didn't get much from Dad anymore. And then I went
and did plumbing. I just that was just the easy option.
I didn't so I didn't really get much from Dad.
(15:57):
So that's when I started partying, and I was like,
I just want to close my eyes. I want to escape,
and yeah, I started doing drugs and I started which
everyone but anyway.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I'm sure we'll go there.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah. So I just I needed to escape and I
just didn't get those things. And I didn't get love
from yeah Dad, And that was my biggest thing. Like
he obviously loved me, of course didn't. He's like the
best dad ever.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
He's the best ad, did you feel like mom loved you?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yeah, I got loved from Mum. So I'm very grateful
that I had one parent that gave that gave me love.
But fast forward all three is so like I still
didn't get love from Dad with naked harvests, and I
was like, try my hardest and to be successful and
(16:50):
being successful, still didn't get it. I had a massive
blue with Dad and he said, well, the only reason
you're successful is Georgia.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
And that breaks my heart so much.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah, I had a massive fight with him. I nearly
told him to get out of my house because he
was staying there anyway.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
It was a big.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Thing, and I was like, few, like, that's it. I've
just tried a couple of years, a few years, put
my life into this, got a big business and I
was going really good. Still it in your love. And
then I did my inner work stuff and I was
(17:31):
able to let go of all these masks and I
was I didn't need I didn't need Dad's love anymore.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
And it's like also the approval.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah, I didn't need approval, didn't need love. I didn't
need anything from Dad. All I just said to him.
I was like, I want love and support, but if
you can't do it, it's okay because I love and
support myself. And so from that point, that's when I
started seeing a different relationship with Dad, and that's when
he started giving me love. That was the big turning
(18:07):
point in our relationship.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
You stop changing it.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Yeah, when I took the masks off and I become
my person and who I wanted to be, and like
Dad would never come to me for advice ever about anything,
and now they come to me, which is so weird.
And they asked we keep like with financial problems, with
(18:31):
mental problems, Like they come to me for advice and
they respect me so much. And it's all because I
respected myself. I loved myself. I had got a good
relationship with myself. So in a work, took all my
masks off. I love that. So that's when it fully
(18:52):
changed for me. Now I'm Riborn, Now I am Ribel.
It took a long while, but a lot of people
don't get there, and that's the sad part two order. Yeah,
so I'm very grateful that I've gotten to this point.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
It was actually such a benefit to you, Dad going no,
I don't think you're successful, no, blah, blah blah, because
that was like your rock bottom moment of like, well,
fuck you, I'm gonna go and just do it for myself.
I'm gonna stop caring about you. And that's when everything shifted.
And obviously you benefited so much from that mask because
(19:37):
look at naked harvest, look at your life. Yeah, so
we always benefit. And it's like, it's really good if
you can see the benefit from the mask, because that
will help you understand why you've been wearing it for
so long. You can put it down, yeah, because other
as we see the mask and be like, oh, why
have I been doing this? You know, blah blah blah.
But it's like, see all the benefits really yeah, it
(19:59):
makes actually a lot of sense. And we're really smart,
Like we're so intelligent. Our subconscious will do what's best
for us in every scenario. And it's like, for whatever reason,
that was best for us. I even love how your
moment is like if I want the respect and love,
I need to give it to myself. And I feel
(20:20):
like not a lot of people even get to that realization.
That's huge.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
But like having these masks, they all they can be
your survival as well.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Those masks most of the time. We started wearing them
for survival. If you think about a child, the parents
have to love them for them to survive. And so
it feels like unless you're in a position in your environment. Sorry,
now you've kind of got to be out of that
survival mode to even explore this. If you're still in survival,
(20:53):
it's going to be so hard to let go of
a mask because it's like your nervous system you're unconscious,
like it won't let you.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
But it is very difficult to do this. That was
the hardest thing I've ever done in my life. So
it's not something that you can just say, yeah, just
do it it unconscious work. Yeah, the first thing is
awareness and then start talking about it, start looking for it.
(21:21):
Subconscious wants to go there anyway, so it's start doing it.
A small thing for me.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
It was the small moments, even like I said the
other day, when you said something about me not working
as much, and then I had to in that moment decide,
even though what you said is someone who I love
and respect, I didn't want to wear that mask. So
I was going to continue in the uncertainty, in the
uncomfortable path of all I'm doing things differently, not wearing
(21:50):
the overachieving mask. Like that's a small step, and it's
like making those constantly where you're like, we don't want
to do it, how I've always done it? Go to
choose differently. Yeah, we're gonna love and leave you. This
is just a little episode to get your brain thinking of,
like maybe where you're wearing masks and how it could
(22:10):
literally be creating health issues, how it could be you know,
steering you in this unconscious constantly driving for something, and
it's like you don't actually need to carry it anymore,
you don't actually need to wear it, and you actually
feel so much better, Like, for example, do you feel
so much better now you're not like trying and pushing
and craving dads love? Oh, Like I'm free, free weight
(22:33):
off the shoulders.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Imagine feeling free God locked up, Yeah, in the bottom
of the cage and then you finally get out. That's
literally what it feels like. That's what we're all chasing.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, all right, guys, thanks so much for listening. Cooper
will be back because you guys love him, and we'll
chat to you at some other point.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Bye.
I would like to acknowledge the traditional owners of the
land on which this episode is being recorded, the Combomb
Merry people. They've been having conversations and telling stories on
this land for thousands of years, and we show our
gratitude and respect for their contribution to our environment and culture.
(00:25):
This is Rise and Conquer, the podcast where we strive
to become the highest version of ourselves through curious conversations,
healthy mindsets, laughter, connection, and a deep desire to evolve.
I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson. Join me as we explore parenthood, business, manifestation,
(00:51):
and so much more. It's positive, it's practical, and it's
about putting you in the driver's seat of your own life.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Are you ready? Hello, guys, we are back in the
studio and I am joined by Cooper Stevenson, my brother,
co founder of Naked Hello. So you guys loved the
previous episode with Cooper. So's he's back in. He's been promoted.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I don't think we're a lot to swear on this podcast.
Actually we do. We absolutely do, but you know some
moms have kids anyway, apologies about that. I want to
go straight in your magnetic Blueprint was the course that
we hosted at the start of the year, and it
is a course about setting goals, but it's also you know,
(01:45):
it's a fourteen day course, so it's like a mini course,
and for the first seven days we're really asking you
questions that help you uncover maybe some masks you've been
wearing and some things that you have been doing that
you don't actually want to do, and the person like
you don't actually want to be, but it's from you thinking,
(02:07):
maybe from childhood or like how you're brought up or school,
that you have to be that person in order to
get something. We're really smart, and it's this coping mechanism
where it's like, well, if i'm this person, I'll get
this outcome. We tend to do it as children, you know,
to get our parents to act a certain way or
(02:28):
be a certain way, or that's just what we think
we have to do to survive or whatnot. And then
we carry these masks as we get older, but they
tend to get heavy, and we tend to get burnt out,
and we tend to not like our lives because we're
almost like living it for other people, or like living
it from wounds so look pretty deep first seven days
(02:50):
of the course, and then the last seven days you're
making goals. So it's super fun. That course is actually
still available if you guys want to do it. I
think we might even put like a discaln code. Yeah,
we'll we'll do a dissy for you if you want
to do it. Just because I know it's probably a
couple months into the air, but Cooper, I wanted to
ask you and get this conversation rolling of some mass
(03:13):
that you worn when you were younger or even now,
and like the coping mechanisms, just so people can understand
and get some examples and start getting their brain thinking
of like, oh, where am I actually doing life from
this very unconscious wounded state.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Maybe you go.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
The biggest one for me was very interesting. We grew
up in a family four children. I felt like I
didn't have much attention from mom and dad because they
worked so hard. You know, Mum had four children, She
didn't have a cleaner, she didn't have help, so she
was like always busy doing shit. Dad was obviously working
(03:57):
all the time. It was fun to play with my brothers,
but they're my brothers, Like I don't actually really care
for their attention, and so I developed this coping mechanism.
I felt very average, don't get me wrong, Like my parents,
I feel like they loved me so much, and like
I didn't feel unloved. And also when I was younger,
(04:19):
I tried a whole bunch of like sports, gymnastic, dancing,
and I didn't feel good at anything, Like I didn't
excel at anything. I wasn't that smart in school, I
felt like I didn't get a lot of praise for things.
And then when I got older, because I know, shut up,
(04:39):
I'm still upset about it.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
It still because we know what gets dad's attention anyway.
But what well this let me tell you why.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
So it literally didn't happen until I was older in
high school, and I decided I wanted to be a
lawyer because I watched Legally Blond and all. So our
oldest brother's girlfriend at the time was from like a
low socio economic family, and she said she was doing law,
(05:10):
and I remember thinking, fuck, are you no? But I
remember thinking, oh my god, like if she can do law,
surely I can do it. That's really toxic. Surely I
can do law. And so we were brought up, we
were so I then started doing really well at school.
Told mom and dad I wanted to be a lawyer,
(05:31):
and I got so much attention, Like I remember Die
being drunk telling random people, my daughter's going to be
a lawyer. She's so smart. And I was like, this
is amazing. This is the attention that I always wanted
as a child, you know, getting when I'm older. So I,
you know, I do my law degree work really hard.
(05:53):
Honestly it was very draining, but I was like, I
got to finish this degree. Meanwhile, I'm doing my social media.
I'm earning money from my social media. And our parents
are very financially focused because they came from like a
low socio economic background, so like money means survival. Money
is important to them.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I started to get also a lot of praise from
mom and dad for earning money while I was like
at UNI and also super toxic too. I started getting
so much praise when I got really skinny from mom
and dad that it does make sense. Basically, my mask
was overachieving.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Great, I don't have one. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I know when you're like I've got nothing, I'm looking
at you, like, what are you talking about? You're like
the most wounded person growing up, So let me finish
one and then you can do yours. So I developed overachieving,
and so that's why I was doing law. Started making
money off social media, but like good money, like no
(07:00):
one else was making that sort of money. I got
like as skinny as possible, Like it was like everything
I did to the extreme because of the praise that
I got from people around me. And so I basically
then made every decision based off getting that praise and
approval from people. And I continued to make those decisions literally,
(07:24):
probably not until what like a couple of years ago.
I continued the high overachieving. I continued every time we'd
see Dad, he'd be like, how much money do you
end this week? He still kind of does it now.
But I actually remember when I was going through this
and realizing such a huge mass for me was this
overachieving and how burnt out and how like I was like,
(07:47):
I just don't want to be this person anymore. I
don't want to live for everyone else. And that's why
I had such a journey with like you know, with
my weight becoming just like my weight now and all
these things. It's almost like I was pushing against people,
being like, no, fuck you, I'm going to be who
I want to be and I'm not going to fit
inside your box. That was a huge thing for me.
(08:10):
Like I remember I even wanted to like dye my
head brown because I knew Dad loved blonde, you know,
like weird shit like that, Like I feel weird saying
that by that makes sense. It makes sense. And so
you go through this thing where it's like I don't
want to be what everyone thinks I need to be.
(08:35):
Even what we're talking about in our previous episode of
like this year not having as many stresses, definitely recommend
you guys listening to that. It was a good ee.
We just like we talked a lot of shit, but
there were some great points in it.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Which.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
And then.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Well look real that was Georgia last year and I'm
still just paying for the consequences this year. Anyway, at
the moment, it's like what am I actually? You know,
what do I want? Even you know, with my followers
on Instagram or whatnot, Like it was very much how
can I be the most relatable person so everyone likes
(09:11):
me on Instagram? How can I fit the size so
everyone likes me on Instagram. I was just trying to
fit myself in a box so much, but I got
so tired, so exhausted. I developed physical things, like I
had a thio disease, which I've now actually completely reversed.
And even if you think about it, it's an autoimmune
(09:32):
disease where your body is attacking itself. Like I got
to the point where I was doing so many things
for other people's approval, it's like my body started attacking itself.
Like that's not normal for your body to do that,
and so I had to really do some deep work
to figure this all out and I did that.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Let's look at that what you've just said. Then there's
always good to bad. So having the things, having these masks,
all the good that has come out of it for
you so much good, amazing, Like look at my life now,
so grateful. You get to a point where you need
(10:12):
to transition and be like, no, I don't want to
wear this mask anymore. And it's that transition time that
you're going to get a dip because you're going into
a new reality of being the person you want to be.
So you're gonna have to go through some rough or
when you get out of it to drop the mask.
You're going to be in another journey and there's going
(10:32):
to be good from that because you've just gone into
a bit of a dip and now you get to
live your life and not have all these diseases and.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
You're not going to be full of diseases, thank god.
But even I love that you brought that up. Even
thinking about that when I was, you know, going through
being too skinny and my body was not coping, I
remember thinking, oh my god, I'm going to lose my
followers now, blah blah blah. But even if we think
about that, when I start talking about intuitive eating, when I,
you know, just was like working out and eating for
(11:05):
like what I loved, I actually gained this whole new
audience who was like, yes, thank you please, I don't
want these like people on my feed who were so
like unattainable. So it actually became like relatable and like
a friend to someone else, different people. And I think
that's with the mass situation, as you will be scared
(11:27):
to take it off because it has benefited you for
such a long time. I still work through today with
the overachieving because I have so much of my identity
in you know, I'm the big influencer who like has
the businesses and he's a girl boss and like all
those sorts of things. But I'm even noticing this year
(11:48):
I want to transition even more to like being in
my feminine and like doing things differently in business and
not working how I used to work, and obviously focusing
on family. And it's scares me because I did things
so certainly for such a long time and got such
a good result. But it's so important for us to
(12:09):
like prove to ourselves that I can take off this
mask and I can do something different and still have
an incredible outcome. See even the other day it actually
triggered me a little bit when you were like, I
don't know, I feel like you said something about like
me maybe not working as much.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Why would I say that.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
To you because you your fucking father's son.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
No doulls what Because I don't like that about myself?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah, and everything, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Doing it in myself. So I've just figured this out today.
Actually I was thinking, and I was like, I've figured
said it a few things in my head, and I'm like,
George is just not really into it.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
George is doing nothing.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Then I'm like, look at your Instagram and look at
what you're doing, and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
What the fuck am I talking about?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Literally everything, So always a reflection of yourself that you
don't like about yourself. So and then I was like,
that's why I'm changing, that's why I'm doing this, and
that's why I'm going in the business more. You should
never aly on other people to change yourself. You should
always do it. It's always in yourself.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Well, that triggered me because that was the old wound
of how Georgia. Remember how I was like a workaholic
when I was working twenty four to seven, and so
that's like it got me a certain outcome. So when
you said that to me, I was like, oh my gosh,
like maybe I need to go back to the old
self and blah blah blah. But this year, I think
you missed this part. But I'm trying to step more
on my feminine and do things in a very different way.
(13:36):
So I acknowledged that comment and did think it's more
about him than me. He's going through something. I'll let
him process it and then we'll talk about it on Monday.
Because I am doing things a different way. There's guilt
because in a transition from Mars, it feels uncomfortable, it
doesn't feel right. And so I had the initial thing
of like, oh is he right blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
And I was like no, yeah, so you got that
awareness and then you assessed it of no, that's not
what I want to do. Yes, this is what I
want to be. You're welcome process.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Thank you for triggering me. And well, that's what I
mean is like I had to be like, well, no,
I don't want to work harder to get a result.
That's not how I want to do things anymore. So
I can leave that there and yeah, realize that that's
not what I have to do. But that was a
great point for me.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
All right. So my mask when I was younger was
the exact same thing I wanted to overachieve with sport.
So I remember I was in grade one and I
did the cross country and I come first, and I
(14:54):
remember my mom just going, oh my goodness, like could
you just come first, Like we've got a son that's
really good at sport. And then told Dad and he
was stoked and he praised me and said that was
so good, Cooper. So I got love in overchieving in sports.
So from then on, I always strived to be really
(15:15):
good at sport, like I had the ability. But that
was my mask to try and get love from Dad,
and it was one. And I always did sprinting and
I did soccer, and I just always tried to get
Dad's love for that. You were very athletic, So that
was my mask. But I got into high school and
(15:36):
then I was like, I actually don't like this. It
was too much pressure. I didn't really like it, so
I stopped. And then that's when I just kind of
didn't get much from Dad anymore. And then I went
and did plumbing. I just that was just the easy option.
I didn't so I didn't really get much from Dad.
(15:57):
So that's when I started partying, and I was like,
I just want to close my eyes. I want to escape,
and yeah, I started doing drugs and I started which
everyone but anyway.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I'm sure we'll go there.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah. So I just I needed to escape and I
just didn't get those things. And I didn't get love
from yeah Dad, And that was my biggest thing. Like
he obviously loved me, of course didn't. He's like the
best dad ever.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
He's the best ad, did you feel like mom loved you?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yeah, I got loved from Mum. So I'm very grateful
that I had one parent that gave that gave me love.
But fast forward all three is so like I still
didn't get love from Dad with naked harvests, and I
was like, try my hardest and to be successful and
(16:50):
being successful, still didn't get it. I had a massive
blue with Dad and he said, well, the only reason
you're successful is Georgia.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
And that breaks my heart so much.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah, I had a massive fight with him. I nearly
told him to get out of my house because he
was staying there anyway.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
It was a big.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Thing, and I was like, few, like, that's it. I've
just tried a couple of years, a few years, put
my life into this, got a big business and I
was going really good. Still it in your love. And
then I did my inner work stuff and I was
(17:31):
able to let go of all these masks and I
was I didn't need I didn't need Dad's love anymore.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
And it's like also the approval.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah, I didn't need approval, didn't need love. I didn't
need anything from Dad. All I just said to him.
I was like, I want love and support, but if
you can't do it, it's okay because I love and
support myself. And so from that point, that's when I
started seeing a different relationship with Dad, and that's when
he started giving me love. That was the big turning
(18:07):
point in our relationship.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
You stop changing it.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Yeah, when I took the masks off and I become
my person and who I wanted to be, and like
Dad would never come to me for advice ever about anything,
and now they come to me, which is so weird.
And they asked we keep like with financial problems, with
(18:31):
mental problems, Like they come to me for advice and
they respect me so much. And it's all because I
respected myself. I loved myself. I had got a good
relationship with myself. So in a work, took all my
masks off. I love that. So that's when it fully
(18:52):
changed for me. Now I'm Riborn, Now I am Ribel.
It took a long while, but a lot of people
don't get there, and that's the sad part two order. Yeah,
so I'm very grateful that I've gotten to this point.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
It was actually such a benefit to you, Dad going no,
I don't think you're successful, no, blah, blah blah, because
that was like your rock bottom moment of like, well,
fuck you, I'm gonna go and just do it for myself.
I'm gonna stop caring about you. And that's when everything shifted.
And obviously you benefited so much from that mask because
(19:37):
look at naked harvest, look at your life. Yeah, so
we always benefit. And it's like, it's really good if
you can see the benefit from the mask, because that
will help you understand why you've been wearing it for
so long. You can put it down, yeah, because other
as we see the mask and be like, oh, why
have I been doing this? You know, blah blah blah.
But it's like, see all the benefits really yeah, it
(19:59):
makes actually a lot of sense. And we're really smart,
Like we're so intelligent. Our subconscious will do what's best
for us in every scenario. And it's like, for whatever reason,
that was best for us. I even love how your
moment is like if I want the respect and love,
I need to give it to myself. And I feel
(20:20):
like not a lot of people even get to that realization.
That's huge.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
But like having these masks, they all they can be
your survival as well.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Those masks most of the time. We started wearing them
for survival. If you think about a child, the parents
have to love them for them to survive. And so
it feels like unless you're in a position in your environment. Sorry,
now you've kind of got to be out of that
survival mode to even explore this. If you're still in survival,
(20:53):
it's going to be so hard to let go of
a mask because it's like your nervous system you're unconscious,
like it won't let you.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
But it is very difficult to do this. That was
the hardest thing I've ever done in my life. So
it's not something that you can just say, yeah, just
do it it unconscious work. Yeah, the first thing is
awareness and then start talking about it, start looking for it.
(21:21):
Subconscious wants to go there anyway, so it's start doing it.
A small thing for me.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
It was the small moments, even like I said the
other day, when you said something about me not working
as much, and then I had to in that moment decide,
even though what you said is someone who I love
and respect, I didn't want to wear that mask. So
I was going to continue in the uncertainty, in the
uncomfortable path of all I'm doing things differently, not wearing
(21:50):
the overachieving mask. Like that's a small step, and it's
like making those constantly where you're like, we don't want
to do it, how I've always done it? Go to
choose differently. Yeah, we're gonna love and leave you. This
is just a little episode to get your brain thinking of,
like maybe where you're wearing masks and how it could
(22:10):
literally be creating health issues, how it could be you know,
steering you in this unconscious constantly driving for something, and
it's like you don't actually need to carry it anymore,
you don't actually need to wear it, and you actually
feel so much better, Like, for example, do you feel
so much better now you're not like trying and pushing
and craving dads love? Oh, Like I'm free, free weight
(22:33):
off the shoulders.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Imagine feeling free God locked up, Yeah, in the bottom
of the cage and then you finally get out. That's
literally what it feels like. That's what we're all chasing.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, all right, guys, thanks so much for listening. Cooper
will be back because you guys love him, and we'll
chat to you at some other point.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Bye.
Popular Podcasts
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com