December 8, 2025 • 45 mins
In today’s replay episode, Georgie is a guest on The Balance Theory Podcast, sitting down with Erika for a powerful deep dive into identity work, subconscious beliefs, and the energetics of becoming “the next version” of yourself.
If you’ve ever felt like you’re fighting your old patterns…
If you're craving a new season but don’t know how to step into it…
If you know you’re meant for more but your current reality isn’t reflecting it yet…
This episode is your blueprint.
Inside this episode, we explore:
- How your identity + subconscious beliefs shape your entire reality
- What quantum leaping actually is (and isn’t)
- Letting go of old patterns, masculine energy & secondhand gains
- Balancing ambition, motherhood & redefining “having it all”
- Entering your softer, more supported era
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I would like to acknowledge the traditional owners of the
land on which this episode is being recorded, the Combomb
Merry people. They've been having conversations and telling stories on
this land for thousands of years, and we show our
gratitude and respect for their contribution to our environment and culture.
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This is Rise and Conquer, the podcast where we strive
to become the highest version of ourselves through curious conversations,
healthy mindsets, laughter, connection, and a deep desire to evolve.
I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson. Join me as we explore parenthood, business, manifestation,
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and so much more. It's positive, it's practical, and it's
about putting you in the driver's seat of your own life.
Are you ready?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
So if we go a little bit deeper on identity work,
because this is just super interesting to me, and you
really do have to kind of part with a version
of yourself you thought you were going to be that
you grew up chasing. You had this very clear trajectory
and then when you make a separate decision, it's kind
of similar to what I'm doing now too. There's no
milestones that you're looking for, like you're really just making
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it up. You're not fitting into a box, you're actually
finding what shape you're actually meant to go in. What
does that identity work involve?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
So basically, the way that I would describe it is
most of us think that even I remember growing up
with the beliee of like you can't change who you
are at your core, like your personality traits who you are.
You can't, you know, change who you are. And then
I thought, also, it's like we all were kind of
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just given this life, and it's like some people were
lucky and some people weren't. That's just not true. You
can absolutely complete, like you could become a completely different
person tomorrow, and then the result of that is you
would have a different reality. So a concept I'll come
round to the identity work, but a concept I talk
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about in the work that I teach is quantum leaping.
So it's like, you know, it's a bit of a
buzzword to in TikTok, it's like how to manifest in
quantum leap, And basically, very simply, quantum leaping is just
you going from one timeline to another. And so the
only reason that you're currently in this timeline with the
people around you, with the job you have with how
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much you're owning with how you feel is a direct
correlation with your identity and your belief system. So if
you want to change that, if you want to have
a different reality, if you want to quantum leap is,
you need to change your identity and your belief system.
So the identity work is basically the biggest work that
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you can do is in a child work where you
go back to what are the beliefs I hold that
I keeping me in my current reality. And so most
people stumble because they're like, but the person I want
to be, they don't know that belief system. But it's
like I kind of talk about this concept of this
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is why you have expanders, which is just other people
who are doing what you want to do. And that's
why listening to podcasts is incredible. That's why you know documentaries, books,
anything like that, where you're getting a taste of that
person's belief system and the identity in which they mold themselves.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Too.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
We can actually morph into someone new, Like I talk
about this concept where you know, if you wanted to
be Let's say you're someone who's like, I'm always late,
and so you would identify as I'm someone who's always late.
So if that is in your subconscious, no matter if
you try and be early, I guarantee you something will
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pop up. You'll get a flat tire like, things will happen.
And that's because the universe is always or like you know, spirit, God,
whatever you want to do, whatever you want to believe in,
is always reflecting back to you, whatever your beliefs are. Like,
our reality is just a mirror, So everything that you
currently have in your reality is just reflecting to you
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what's inside. And that can be really hard for people
to hear when their reality isn't what they want. But
that's what's so cool because it's like, oh my god,
I actually have so much control. And obviously it doesn't
happen overnight, but if you can just start getting curious
and being like, okay, well what current identity points are
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related to my reality? And then you go into well
who do I want to be? And what are their beliefs?
What are their identity points? How do they think about themselves?
If you have this goal where you're like, I want
to be a multi million dollar business owner, do you
think they take themselves seriously? Do you think they show
up on time? Do you think they take meetings a
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certain way. Do you think they prioritize their self care
like all those sorts of things. Yeah, that's that's what
it is. And it's it's simple, but it's not. And obviously,
like I have courses that are like seven weeks long
on there, so it's like I can't really answer it
in a podcast.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
But that's the gist.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah, it really is like the deep work, and I've
worked with a therapist, but she really opened my mind
on like the neuroscience side of things, and so what
you're saying from like a more spiritual point of view
when you're talking about manifesting about the conscious and the subconscious.
A really simple way she explained it to me was
imagine you're in a boat and you've got oars and
you're trying to go a certain way. Are you going
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to go the way you want to go or the
way the current's taking you?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Right?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
So the current represents your subconscious beliefs. So if you
think I'm always a late person and you're trying to
go on time, you're gonna you're gonna be fighting against
what the current, where the current's going, which is actually
your subconscious belief so investigating that going beneath the surface.
It's hard because it's not conscious to you. It's in
the subconscious, But you can do it with like a
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lot of deep reflection.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
One thing you brought up before that I think will
sit in a lot of people subconscious is this idea
that you have to work really hard to make money.
A lot of us, especially in Australia, like a lot
of our families migrated to Australia and so we come
from an immigrant generation. My four grandparents are Italian. I
was raised with that seeing my parents go to work,
work very hard.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Now that I'm trying to you know, I'm.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Thinking about the future and wanting to have kids and
wanting to be a hands on mum, but also wanting
to still have things for myself and potentially build out passive,
slash flexible ways of making money that will probably generate
me more than what I would in a nine to five.
I still sometimes come against this guilt feeling because of
where I've come from and how I've been raised. So
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you kind of mentioned that that was something you experienced
with your dad and looking at your brothers, how did
you unlearn that and.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
What did you have to replace it with I love that.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
And that's honestly, if we are walking around, first of all,
I love the boat analogy, the good one. That's incredible.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
I'm gonna use that. I can't claim it was my therapist, but.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
No, that's incredible.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
So basically something I want to bring in because, like
you said, this is subconscious work. So it's not as
simple as writing affirmations journaling. Journaling is going to be
incredible for you to figure out why your subconscious is
patterned that way because as humans, we don't ever do
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something unless it benefits us. Again, this is going to
be hard for someone because they're like, well, how does
me suffering or struggling benefit you. I'm going to give
you illuminate something. So for example, when you know, back
in the day when we had tribes, you had to
stay in the tribe. You know, That's how you didn't
get killed. And so when we are struggling like majority
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other people, we feel like we belong. So that's actually
a benefit. And so another benefit of when I, you know,
had this belief was if I'm struggling, then I don't
have to help other people. Like for example, now that
I earn a lot more money. I do have to
have difficult conversations where people ask for the money, people
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want something from me. I'm always like, do they actually
like me as a friend or do they want something
from me? Like that brings something up, which is a
whole new thing. So I call this second hand gain.
So something that you could start inquiring consciously is even
like you being late, what do you actually get out
of that? And a really simple thing which might be
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hard to admit, is when you're late, you get more attention.
People say, oh, you're always late, or you're the last
one to walk into the room. So are you Maybe
when you grew up you didn't get much attention and
this was actually a coping mechanism that you used to
get attention.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Interesting, isn't it interesting? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
But a lot of us wouldn't want to look at
that because it's like, oh, I'm not attension seeking. Yeah,
because I'm like, no, that's honestly why I'm lital. And
so you could start inquiring being like, what secondhand gain
am I getting from this? For example, when we gossip,
we actually get serotonin, which is the happy hormone, because
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it's so toxic, so toxic, and this is why we're
addicted to reality TV shows and you know, all those
sorts of things. We get these serotonin and dopamine hits
anytime that we are safe and someone else is showing
us what's wrong or right but we're safe, which is
technically gossiping. It's like someone you know coloring outside the lines.
(09:44):
We're like, oh, thank god, that weird, Yes exactly, And
so we actually get like dopamine serotonin and it's addictive
because it's like why do we drink coffee. It's because
we get that feeling, we get that vibe and we're like, oh,
I want that again, and it's like why do we
like sugar? Like it's addictive. So what we don't actually
realize is a lot of our behavior subconsciously is benefiting us.
(10:07):
It's just like I talk about this concept with money.
I used to be someone who was terrible with money.
I used to have to borrow money from my partner.
He would have to pay for someone my rent. I
would always have no money in my bank account. But
what it also meant is I got to lean into
being a damsel. He always got to help me out.
(10:27):
I always got to be like, oh poor me, I've
got no money, he would buy me things. And that's
actually something that people enjoy because they feel looked after,
you know, like growing up, I didn't really get that,
so I enjoyed that. It's very much. You know, secondhand
gain is usually a little bit ugly, but it's like
what am I actually benefiting from? So that's the first
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thing I would say doing. And again it can be
hard if your ego is a bit closed off to it,
but I would be figuring out, okay, what actual secondhand
gain from that? And then then the next thing you
want to do is think of it. The concept of
the belief is like a table and you want to
be knocking out the legs so you're subconscious can see
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that the new belief is actually safe. So that's why
anytime that you know, the subconscious belief comes up, you
basically want to be going okay, But do I want
to be a damsel? No? I actually want to be
like okay to make money and hold money. And then
you have to constantly go through those new beliefs and
(11:34):
that like you're knocking the belief out. So again it
does take a lot of like journaling self inquiry. I
do have like a full limiting belief formula that I
teach in my courses that goes a lot more in depth.
But do you see how it's like a layered approach.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah, it's it's definitely extremely deep work, which is why
it's uncomfortable, because you're basically turning your mind to frameworks
and things that you just accept it as yourself, which
actually not. And when you realize that, you don't have
to think that you're not worthy of being the top
five podcast, so you're not worthy of having a multimillion
(12:09):
dollar business, so you're not worthy of getting that promotion.
When you realize that you're the person standing in your
own way, it's a very hard pill to swallow.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
But the other side of that.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Is everything you want and everything you could possibly imagine
as well. I've seen it firsthand myself. It's for me.
It's kind of always made sense. The way I think
and feel about myself is reflected in my reality. And
I still go through these bouts where you know, maybe
I'm having I don't know. Sometimes it kind of feels
a bit like this, and I feel like it's a
bit of a low period and maybe my old beliefs
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are coming in, Like I feel like this work, like
it's so important, but it's also never ending, like because
like you said, never now that you've you know, come
into money, you're now dealing with other things that have
popped up and kind of created your reality.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
So the brain is.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Always trying to protect us. It's just important to work
out whether it's what's its instruction manual?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
You know, well that's even like just to bounce off
that really quickly. Is so initially my whole thing after
doing law was like how do I be my authentic self?
How do I step outside the box? And it was
very this like be bold, be a risk taker. And
that's like how I started my business is I was this,
you know, incredible business woman and I was started a
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podcast and I was loud and I was proud, and
I was like really, you know, very like feminist and
like that sort of vibe. And it's so interesting because
I'm now rolling into a new identity where me and
my partner want to have a second child, and I'm
noticing this whole new season where I'm like, well, how
could I actually be a business owner but be super
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feminine and how could I be super soft? And am
I actually a very assertive and determined person or is
that just something that I use to get what I want?
But now I can change it. A big thing I
want to say is the identity that you're stepping into,
don't worry because you'll constantly be morphing and changing and
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be okay with it, lean really in, but know that
you go through seasons and it's going to change. And
that's what I mean. Like, sorry, what you were saying
is it is never ending. And so now I'm like, oh,
how can I be a business owner and like this beautiful,
like feminine flow, like so different to who I am,
But it feel like my identity and I wonder what
(14:23):
my reality would look like. Yeah, so to see how
it's like, oh wow, I'm literally just going to change
my whole life.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yeah, no, it's amazing. I heard this amazing thing on
TikTok actually yesterday.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I want to share it with you.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
So it was basically about the difference between masculine and
feminine energy and how that impacts your life's purpose. Basically,
so they said, imagine you've got a metaphorical mountain. Men
start their life at the bottom of the mountain, and
they spend their whole life achieving striving problem solving, to
try and prove themselves, to try and provide to get
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to the top of the mountain. Whereas females are born
already at the top of the mountain. They're already worthy.
And it was that difference in you know, you, as
a business owner and as a mother, stepping out of
that masculine energy of striving and providing. I mean, it's
not to say you can't be that way, but it's
just to say that you're already born worthy of those things.
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So anything and you want to achieve is out of
that energy that you've already got it and you don't
need to prove it to anybody else.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Well that's even like, yeah, I definitely was creating and
running my businesses in a very masculine energy for you know,
the last five years. And look it works, like I
obviously scaled my businesses. I have an eight figure company,
a seven figure company. But I was like, fuck, if
I'm gonna have another child, I don't know if this
is sustainable, and so like, what's a more sustainable approach?
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And that is it's that innate feminine energy. And so
it feels unnatural to me because I was in the
masculine energy for so long. But I'm like, no, I'm
ready to stop driving, to stop pushing, to stop problem solving.
I'm ready to do it a different way. So I
love that you brought that up.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
This is really interesting. I feel like I'm having this
conversation more and more. And I don't know if you
feel this way, but I find that like the older
I'm getting, the more traditional I feel I am. Now
this kind of comes with two parts. I feel very
grateful to live in a time whereas females, we have
so much opportunity and.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Choice versus sey like fifty years ago. Right Like we
can start businesses.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
We can do whatever we want, Like we live in
a country where that's a possibility, and I feel very
grateful for that. But I also really respect and value
the role of being a nurturer and being in the
home and leaning into that energy and being in a
position where I can potentially do both.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
And so I feel this kind of.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Regression back to more traditional roots with the cherry on
top of like being able to still do my things.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
One thing I wanted to ask you about.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
You've kind of been open about how you didn't feel
quite maternal straight away when you had Ivy.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Do you think that's because you.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Were really heavily in this masculine energy, which of course
brought you so much success.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Do you think that was a contributing factor.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Absolutely, And well, now that I can reflect and I
have like, I have hindsight, absolutely, and that's why I'm like, wow,
with this next baby, I do want it to be
different because I feel like I didn't not that I
didn't get the whole experience, but I noticed after I
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had Ivy, because I was still in such a masculine energy,
I was like, I need to get back to work.
I couldn't be present, I couldn't enjoy it. And I
kind of, yeah, I feel like I didn't get the
full experience. And obviously, I like, I truly believe like
everything happens for a reason. It was all perfect, and
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you know, Ivy was meant to have that experience also,
But one hundred percent, I'm like, I do want this
time to be different because I was in such masculine
energy and it is incredible because as women, we are
being like I can do what the fuck I want,
and I can do anything I want, and it's beautiful
and it's incredible and I absolutely say, like, go out
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and do it, but there definitely is something to what
you're saying about. But I also want to be able to,
you know, sit at home with my newborn and not
be thinking about a Black Friday strategy, do you know
what I mean? But it is hard because often we
have built these businesses in a masculine way and then
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we you know, have babies and do the family and
it's such an identity crisis. Which I've done a lot
of identity work on this and being a working mum,
and that's why I really feel the poll this next season,
I'm like, I want to prove it to myself that
I can still run my businesses but in a different way.
And that starts now before I'm even pregnant, before you
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know it happens, because yeah, I completely was in masculine
energy and it felt unnatural, and so you know, it
was still a beautiful experience. And I love my daughter
so much and I love being a mom so much,
but yeah, I'm really looking forward to a different experience.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yeah, I think this is very topical at the moment.
I mean, I know a lot of your listeners, a
lot of my listeners, they're very a type high achieving women,
and it's something that's really top of mind for me
now too, how to strike this balance between being that
person who I feel I genuinely am, and I don't
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feel that that's necessarily a masculine thing right to be driven,
although sometimes the way we go about.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
It isn't that masculine energy.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
What identity shift needs to happen for you between let's
just say, experience with baby one and experience with baby two,
that you're looking to have that more fuller experience or
just to have what's kind of this next season about
for you?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Well, I've already started doing it where I have I
no longer need to be the main driver in my business.
So like from a very practical lens, it has been
putting a team in place, so I'm not doing everything.
If you think about masculine energy, it's the doing the
feminine energy, it's the visionary, it's the this is what
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I see, this is the vibe, and then the man
goes and does it for her. So in my businesses,
I am have already created the practical sense of I
still want to be the visionary. I still want to
hold the vision of the companies, but I have let
go control. I have surrendered, and obviously it's taken time
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to build a team. I have the most incredible team Erica,
like oh my god, and they absolutely can run the
show without me, and obviously so blessed that my business
can be in that sort of position. But obviously there
is a lot of things like contractor virtual assistance, all
those sorts of things, but having a support system who
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can be the doing of my business is definitely feels
like the key to this next season because even at
the moment, we laugh because Ivy's birthday is she was
born literally on Black Friday three years ago, and it's
the busiest yeah, the busiest time for e comm and
we just laugh because that's like her as a person.
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And so every single year we go away for her birthday,
and so I'm away on the busiest week of the
whole year for e comm.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
The universe did that one on purpose.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Yeah, it said, like, let go a bitch, and so like,
I'm going away to Fiji for her birthday as we're
currently recording, and the team's got it. I have no worries,
like I have set that up. So it's the very
practical sense of like, well, what's the doing, how can
I outsource? How can I get support? And then staying
in my feminine energy of like this is the vision,
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this is the vibe. And then I think feminine energy too,
is that energy of just surrender. So even you know,
let's say I'm in the newborn stage when I have
my second baby, it's like not being worried what other
people are doing, not being worried, you know, if the
business is just staying the same, like not being like
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we need to scale it, we need to you know,
those sorts of things, and just being surrendering and like
the universe has my back, the team has my back
and embracing it because honestly, my team can fully have
it under control. But if I'm not leaving, letting go
of control, I'm like the little micromanager that like ruins everything.
So I feel like that's kind of what mine looks like.
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And then the identity piece is, let's even think about
the secondhand gain is when you're controlling everything in your business,
you really get a lot of the glory. Oh you
do it all by yourself. Oh you scaled this a
bag of honor, badge of honor, Like and I think moms,
especially working moms, we do a little bit addicted, Like
every time I go on a podcast or talk to
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them and they're like, oh my god, how do you
do it? You do so much it's addictive, Like it
feels good to me and I can on it, like
I'm happy to say that. I'm happy to be honest
about that. So it's like letting go of that struggle.
It's like letting go that I have to climb the
ladder that I have to do it all, that I
have to be the pusher and the driver, and that
really goes against what society has told you about having
(23:27):
a successful business, about being successful in life. So it's
all those conditionings and identities that I have to step
out of.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Yeah, no, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Even if you think about it for me to be like, oh,
I can take six months off and my business, you know,
can just run by itself. Like that's very much like oh,
what do you even do in your business? You know?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
And mean like this is awesome. No, it's amazing. Like
obviously it never starts that way.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
You have to no scale it and build it to
a point where you can make that but not being
that one key person risk is so important, so you
can actually about what this conversation is reminding me of
is a question I kind of think about all the time,
and can women have it all? It's something a lot
of us think and maybe think we can't, maybe think
we can. But I think the whole point of that
question and the starting point is you have to define
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what having it all means to you. Yes, right, So
when you talk about staying in your own lane, when
you talk about not leaning into what society tells.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
You your success, what does that actually mean to you?
Speaker 2 (24:25):
And then you start shaping your reality around that because
I don't know if you felt that way, But when
I was at law school and thinking about moving up
in the ranks and I was seeing my partner in
a corner office and thinking is that going to be
my life? That wasn't having it all to me? You know,
she was amazing at her job, but she never saw
her kids, and I knew that wasn't what I wanted.
So that's when the spark started going off in my head, like, Okay,
(24:46):
I've been told that this is a great career to have,
and you know a lot of people think I'm so
amazing for being a lawyer, but it's not.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Actually the reality of it is not to me having
it all, and it's not the life I want.
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Speaker 2 (26:37):
What role does manifesting play in the identity shift?
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Is it kind of separate? Is it parallel? Is it
in como?
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yeah? Well, in the work that I teach, the work
that I do, it honestly just feels like it's just
meshed together. Like manifesting just feels like second nature for me.
But how it would integrate is first of all, I
love what you said is a very simple manifesting formula
that is also identity work. Is you know, let's just
say to have it all. So it's like, like you said,
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the first step is what like getting clear on what
that means for you. And that's why you know, manifesting
vision boards, it's very important to be like, well, what
do you care about and what do you want? And
but here's the thing that most people stumble on when
they're manifesting is you know, they put the range rover
on the vision board because that's what their best friend did,
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or that's what they see on Instagram, do you, I mean,
they're not actually getting to this beautiful core, authentic self
place and creating goals. I actually just created a course
called Your Magnetic Blueprint where I go through this and
it's only a two week course. It's a very short
New Year's sort of vibe course, and I spend the
first week really teaching people who is their authentic self
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and what are their authentic desires not coming from? Yeah,
what does your algorithm say? What does your best friend say,
your mom, your sister, your partner, TV, all those sorts
of things, Because that's where I feel like we get
unhappy and we get depressed and we get sad and
all those things. It's because you're wanting what you think
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you should, but it's not actually what you desire from
an authentic place. So and yes, and that course the
first week is literally on like who are you authentically
and what are your authentic desires? And then the second
week is we create goals from that place. So it's
about getting clear on like what does having it all
mean to you? Because if you don't care about having,
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you know, a sport car or an expensive car, that's
literally just repayments that you could put to maybe your
big thing is you love horse riding?
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Like holidays or like you're an experienced person, those sorts
of things. So getting clear is the first step, and
then the second step comes in the identity work of
well that person, Now you're clear on what it means
to having it all for you that person, like who
are they? What are their beliefs, what are their routines,
what are their desires? All that sort of thing. So
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for me with the you know, the mom who's having
six months off with her newborn, one of those you know,
identity pieces would be I trust my team completely. If
something doesn't go exactly to plan, I'm not worried. I
don't have to know the finer details. I trust they're
done by the team. Like that's the idea.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Do you see that? The vibe not seeing it? Do
you listen? I hear it? Do you hear that?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
And so you know, that's really like the second part.
And then let's say the third part is where the
real manifestation piece comes in. And this is you holding
the vision even when your reality shows you the opposite
or something different. And again this is where people full
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off they can't do it because you know they're manifesting.
Let's say it's my example of this beautiful feminine motherhood
season and then my whole team quits, so that that
would feel like, you know, a knife to the heart,
Like it would be like, oh my god, what am
I going to do? But it's in those moments where
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you have to hold the vision and be like, well,
obviously that team was not going to execute on that,
So I have to trust and I have to get
into you know what I mean, Like it's or even
a lot of people, like manifestation is believing it's going
to happen until the eleventh hour. It's like still trusting.
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Like we just finished our Abundance Academy, which is our
money mindset cause. And I was talking to a girl
that a retreat we did, and she was saying, Georgia,
like I found it so difficult. I was manifesting sixteen
thousand dollars to pay off my debt and it was
the end of the thirty days and I hadn't know,
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like I hadn't paid off the day. If anything, I
was more in debt, and I was like, what the
you know, what the fuck? And then she's like, bit,
I held the vision, I kept doing the formula, I
kept doing the work. And then she said, literally the
day after I finished the Abundance Academy, so wild, I
had a bonus come in from a previous work that
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like never got paid to me.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
I love this stuff.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
And it was like and she's like, guess how much
it was? And she's like sixteen thousand, three hundred and
blah blah blah, like the exact number. And I was like, obviously,
that's like such a crazy story. And even me, who I,
you know, manifest every single day and I'm like, really
like it happened, but it works, it works. But that
is like the definition of the last step is like
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you need to hold the vision and embody because for example,
me wanting that beautiful Newborn season, if I go into oh,
I've never kind of had the Newborn season, you know
why is happening to me? No one wants to work
with me, No one likes my company. That is not
holding the vision or embodying that person. The person who
has that goes this is perfect. That team couldn't execute.
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Do you see the difference? And that's what I truly believe,
Like how manifestation comes in with the identity whack.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Arguably, this is like the hardest part, right, especially when
you're at the beginning and you're making that shift, you're
taking that quantum leap, but you haven't really started seeing
things happen. What do you think are the major things
that block people having that faith?
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Like?
Speaker 3 (32:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
I feel sometimes I can be impatient even though everything
has its own time, and always in hindsight you're like, God,
it happened the way it was supposed to. Yes, what
are the main things that block people holding that space
and holding that vision?
Speaker 1 (32:48):
The biggest thing that I'd say is like just constantly
comes up in my courses in my community is and
again I find, you know, the amazing community who listens
to podas podcasts like yours online is they are go getters.
You know, they are high functioning, they go getters. Yes,
they want it yesterday, and they often can be a
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little bit of a control freak, which we need to
be these amazing determined people. And so I find the
biggest block is people going but I don't know how
so they or it's not coming in how I thought
it's the how it's this Howard I hear all the time.
I'm like, the hell doesn't matter. And that's even like
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when you're creating, you're actually in the magnetic blueprint the
New York course I was talking about before I get
them to do this thing where I'm like, Okay, what's
three milestones of how this goal could come in? And
I get them to fully like write them out, and
then I'm like, but the how doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
They're like, what, wipe them out?
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Forget you right, actually throw it in the bin. But
what we need to do as humans is often it
makes us feel better to be like, oh, well it
could come in this way. You know, it could come
in through my boss, it could come in through my partner,
blah blah blah. And that's fine if it helps you
stay on the vision. But in the end, the how
doesn't actually matter. So if we're in a position where
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we're like, but I don't know how this could ever happen,
that's the block because I'm like, but the how is
not up to you. And something that I say that
really helps me in these moments is it's going to
be better than I could have imagined. Like if you
told me when I was twenty one doing my law degree.
You're going to start this business. It's going to be
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an eight figure business, and then you're going to start
this side hustle that turns into a seven figure business.
And it's literally you talking on a podcast about the
things you love and then you know you have the
dream family and the dream house and the dream car
and blah blah blah. My brain wouldn't even been able
to understand how I got there, or like the steps,
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or even probably the vision. Yeah, And so that that's
why I'm like, you're gonna mess up if you try
and be like, oh, but it happens this way. And
even a really funny story is our manufacture for naked Harvest.
How we found them was my brother's friend did a
roofing job for him and was like, oh, my friends
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are starting this supplement business blah blah blah, and they're
an amazing manufacturer. Incredible. That's how we found them.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
You can never plan this.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
You can't plan then you can't make this up. And
that's why I'm like, you need to let go of
the how. It's going to be your biggest block.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, that's a big one. I think a lot of
people resonate myself included. It's that it's because we're type A. Yeah,
it needs to know the formula I need to know.
It's like that quality of us makes us so successful
and driven and motivated, but it's like you just need
to turn it off sometimes and learning that's actually been
quite difficult for me. I found, like I get really
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frustrated with impatience sometimes totally. But that's something I'm like
really working on and trying to surrender.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
To a little more. Before you said, you know, when you.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Get people to start thinking about their identity, you start
working out what's true and authentic for them and what's not.
Just for people listening, you know, they might have some
things on their vision board or some things that they
think they want. How do you actually separate because after
so long and so many layers of voices over the
years and what people tell you, how do you actually
separate what you want versus what someone else told you
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you want.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
So a really quick way that you can do it is,
first of all, anytime you do this work, you do
want it to be in a cented, grounded space. So
I always recommend, you know, getting into nature, doing a meditation,
just having some space. Don't try and do this work
if you're like I got fifteen minutes my calendar and
you're at work and it's all crazy and you know, chaotic.
So first of all, like I feel like that's self explanatory,
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but get yourself into a space where you can be
grounded and scentered and you can be connected to your body.
So my body connection and in like that's what intuition is,
and so that is huge. So that would be the
first thing is just get connected, get quiet. If you
don't meditate, like five minutes a day, guys, honestly life
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changing anyway, I digress. So what I would say is
tune into yourself being that grounded state first. And if
this like let's say we're talking about desires that we want,
if this desire comes from a place of fear or
a place of proving yourself or a place of if
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I don't have it now, I need to have it now,
like that chaotic energy, desperate energy, anytime that desire like, oh,
but so and so got this brand new car, like
I need it, blah blah blah's husband brought her this
I need a new grain. Yet comparison, if it's because
you're you think your parents, like it will please your parents,
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your partner.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Your kids.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
If it's coming from that place, you know it's not
an authentic desire, and it's okay to have them. But
it's also just being very honest about it, like this
is probably coming from an ego, a materialistic all those
sorts of things placed, and it's okay to have those desires,
Like I am very you know, they might call me
a materialistic. I love the car, the jury, like all
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those sorts of things, but they are not my authentic desires.
That's not something I'm going and working for. It's a
by product. And so how you know you're going through
an authentic desire is it feels calm, It feels grounded.
It feels like, wow, this will be this will be
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growth for me. Like when I think of me going
through this newborn phase in this very feminine energy, I'm like, wow,
that's going to be a challenge, and it feels like
growth for my character, for Georgie as a person, for
her evolution.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Beautiful.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
It doesn't feel like I'm doing it. Obviously it benefits Tim,
my husband, and the new baby, but it's not like
I'm going to do this so Instagram can think I'm
feminine or a trad wi you know what I mean,
Like it's not coming from that place, and it feels
so centered and grounded and like, wow, this is going
to be huge for my family, It's going to be
huge for me, and I'm really excited to it. I'm
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a little bit scared, but I'm excited. Do you see
the difference? And I truly believe when you tune into
your body, you will feel it. And if it's coming
from that chaotic atty pushing I need to do this,
I need to achieve blah blah blah, it's not it. Yeah,
but that centered, that grounded it can still feel like
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I said, a little bit like anxious of a little
bit like oh it's a bit scary, it's a bit crazy.
But as long as it's still from that grounded state,
you know, it's an authentic desire.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Yeah, it kind of sounds like you've got to unmask
the intention or the why behind you're striving towards.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
You could even I love this. Like a practical thing
to do is like do like you keep asking why
five times? Yes, keep asking why, and you get to
like the real question and sometimes you're like, shit.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Yeah, yeah, that's a really good on the Someone was
on the show once and they said the five times
why but you can sometimes keep going so given like
sometimes we probably could be desiring things inauthentically. I'm curious
to know, have you ever manifested something that, with hindsight,
you probably didn't want absolutely honestly? What was like got
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a bit of a list, the worst one or the
top one.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Well, I wouldn't say it's the worst one, because I
truly believe everything happens for a reason and if it's
not a manifestation you actually want, it's a lesson and
like we need to figure it out, don't we. God,
we can't be perfect. And so a great one was
when I was like, you know, in just focusing on
being an influencer and working with brands and that was
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kind of my only job. I remember being like I
worked with great brands and you know they're incredible, but
I remember being like, oh, I want to work for
like luxury brands, like want someone to reach out to
me and it's like a luxury brand, And I wanted
to be like exciting and like because you know, you'd
see people and they're like working for like Lewis, Voton
and like those sorts of places, and I was like, oh,
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that would be cool, and so I remember I put
that on my vision board and then I started working.
I got contacted by a luxury brand and it was
a luxury brand that I actually bought you. So I
was like, holy shit, this is perfect and like paid
my full rates. Like I was like, wow, this is
ten out of ten.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Worked with them.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
It was the most horrible experience. They were so particular.
They made me reshoot content three times for very minor things.
In my caption. One of them I posted and I
spelt one word wrong, which is like, if you know
me as a person, I'm the worst spella. And they
wanted me to repost the whole thing otherwise they weren't
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going to pay me, and it had already been up
for like days, and like just this situation where I
was like, this was not what I thought it would be,
and this really came from an ego place, and it
was such a great moment because I was like, Wow, Okay,
this is cool. And a lot of people, like a
lot of people in my community will say the same.
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Let's say they wanted to manifest, you know, their dream
car range Rover. Let's say they're on the Goldcos everywhere,
and you know they get the range Rover, but it
comes with these huge repayments and it actually puts them
further in debt or it like totally messes up their lifestyle.
And then they realize like, no, I actually don't want this.
This is not this doesn't actually you know, feel good.
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This doesn't actually come from a great place. It doesn't
come from overflow.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
And that's what I say.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
It's like I love material things and I'm very aesthetic,
but it's like those things come from like this overflow,
never putting me in a position where I'm like, oh
my god, what have I done?
Speaker 3 (42:53):
Like I step back?
Speaker 1 (42:54):
I step back. Yeah. So, like I would say, that
was probably my best example. And I obviously can't tell
you who the luxury.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
That's fine, we won't. We don't need the tea on that.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Yeah, I'll tell you you're.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
Just so right.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Like jobs, relationships, like things that don't work, they're as valuables.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
They teach you what you don't want as much as
what you do want.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Very quick, very quick. An example, sorry, just I thought
of it is also went through this weird stage so
my husband is a stay at home dad, and before
that he worked in the businesses, and before that he
was a carpenter. And I remember it's our very first date.
I said, I'm going to be a lawyer, so if
you want kids, you have to stay at home with them,
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Like I said that from very first date. So he
and he was like, that's perfect, That's what I want
to do. And I remember I went through this space
where I was like, do I want a husband who
can like provide for me and pay for this laviaged
lifestyle like you know, like very TikTok esque where it's
like your man's going to buy you everything? And I
had that thought and then I remember I was talking
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to my therapist about it and they're like, yeah, Georgia,
but it would come with you would probably have to
support them in their career. You would have to like
and like it comes like think about what it would
actually mean. So yeah, I think a lot of things
get romanticized and we're like, oh, but imagine if I
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just came home and blah blah blah and you know whatnot,
but we're not actually thinking about it. And for someone
who is so career driven and passion driven like that
has always been one of my highest values, so for me,
that wouldn't work. Yeah, So it's like even thinking about
it that way and be like, Okay, do I just
want this because I've seen it on TikTok.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
It's been so lovely chatting to you, getting to a
little bit more about your story. Thank you so much
for sharing your expertise and just your thoughts on your mindset.
Like you said, it's when you're trying to expand listening
to people's mindset people like you is so inspiring. So
thank you so much for teaching us today and for holding.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Space with me.
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Speaker 2 (01:01):
So if we go a little bit deeper on identity work,
because this is just super interesting to me, and you
really do have to kind of part with a version
of yourself you thought you were going to be that
you grew up chasing. You had this very clear trajectory
and then when you make a separate decision, it's kind
of similar to what I'm doing now too. There's no
milestones that you're looking for, like you're really just making
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it up. You're not fitting into a box, you're actually
finding what shape you're actually meant to go in. What
does that identity work involve?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
So basically, the way that I would describe it is
most of us think that even I remember growing up
with the beliee of like you can't change who you
are at your core, like your personality traits who you are.
You can't, you know, change who you are. And then
I thought, also, it's like we all were kind of
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just given this life, and it's like some people were
lucky and some people weren't. That's just not true. You
can absolutely complete, like you could become a completely different
person tomorrow, and then the result of that is you
would have a different reality. So a concept I'll come
round to the identity work, but a concept I talk
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about in the work that I teach is quantum leaping.
So it's like, you know, it's a bit of a
buzzword to in TikTok, it's like how to manifest in
quantum leap, And basically, very simply, quantum leaping is just
you going from one timeline to another. And so the
only reason that you're currently in this timeline with the
people around you, with the job you have with how
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much you're owning with how you feel is a direct
correlation with your identity and your belief system. So if
you want to change that, if you want to have
a different reality, if you want to quantum leap is,
you need to change your identity and your belief system.
So the identity work is basically the biggest work that
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you can do is in a child work where you
go back to what are the beliefs I hold that
I keeping me in my current reality. And so most
people stumble because they're like, but the person I want
to be, they don't know that belief system. But it's
like I kind of talk about this concept of this
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is why you have expanders, which is just other people
who are doing what you want to do. And that's
why listening to podcasts is incredible. That's why you know documentaries, books,
anything like that, where you're getting a taste of that
person's belief system and the identity in which they mold themselves.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Too.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
We can actually morph into someone new, Like I talk
about this concept where you know, if you wanted to
be Let's say you're someone who's like, I'm always late,
and so you would identify as I'm someone who's always late.
So if that is in your subconscious, no matter if
you try and be early, I guarantee you something will
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pop up. You'll get a flat tire like, things will happen.
And that's because the universe is always or like you know, spirit, God,
whatever you want to do, whatever you want to believe in,
is always reflecting back to you, whatever your beliefs are. Like,
our reality is just a mirror, So everything that you
currently have in your reality is just reflecting to you
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what's inside. And that can be really hard for people
to hear when their reality isn't what they want. But
that's what's so cool because it's like, oh my god,
I actually have so much control. And obviously it doesn't
happen overnight, but if you can just start getting curious
and being like, okay, well what current identity points are
(04:41):
related to my reality? And then you go into well
who do I want to be? And what are their beliefs?
What are their identity points? How do they think about themselves?
If you have this goal where you're like, I want
to be a multi million dollar business owner, do you
think they take themselves seriously? Do you think they show
up on time? Do you think they take meetings a
(05:01):
certain way. Do you think they prioritize their self care
like all those sorts of things. Yeah, that's that's what
it is. And it's it's simple, but it's not. And obviously,
like I have courses that are like seven weeks long
on there, so it's like I can't really answer it
in a podcast.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
But that's the gist.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah, it really is like the deep work, and I've
worked with a therapist, but she really opened my mind
on like the neuroscience side of things, and so what
you're saying from like a more spiritual point of view
when you're talking about manifesting about the conscious and the subconscious.
A really simple way she explained it to me was
imagine you're in a boat and you've got oars and
you're trying to go a certain way. Are you going
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to go the way you want to go or the
way the current's taking you?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Right?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
So the current represents your subconscious beliefs. So if you
think I'm always a late person and you're trying to
go on time, you're gonna you're gonna be fighting against
what the current, where the current's going, which is actually
your subconscious belief so investigating that going beneath the surface.
It's hard because it's not conscious to you. It's in
the subconscious, But you can do it with like a
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lot of deep reflection.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
One thing you brought up before that I think will
sit in a lot of people subconscious is this idea
that you have to work really hard to make money.
A lot of us, especially in Australia, like a lot
of our families migrated to Australia and so we come
from an immigrant generation. My four grandparents are Italian. I
was raised with that seeing my parents go to work,
work very hard.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Now that I'm trying to you know, I'm.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Thinking about the future and wanting to have kids and
wanting to be a hands on mum, but also wanting
to still have things for myself and potentially build out passive,
slash flexible ways of making money that will probably generate
me more than what I would in a nine to five.
I still sometimes come against this guilt feeling because of
where I've come from and how I've been raised. So
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you kind of mentioned that that was something you experienced
with your dad and looking at your brothers, how did
you unlearn that and.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
What did you have to replace it with I love that.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
And that's honestly, if we are walking around, first of all,
I love the boat analogy, the good one. That's incredible.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
I'm gonna use that. I can't claim it was my therapist, but.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
No, that's incredible.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
So basically something I want to bring in because, like
you said, this is subconscious work. So it's not as
simple as writing affirmations journaling. Journaling is going to be
incredible for you to figure out why your subconscious is
patterned that way because as humans, we don't ever do
(07:33):
something unless it benefits us. Again, this is going to
be hard for someone because they're like, well, how does
me suffering or struggling benefit you. I'm going to give
you illuminate something. So for example, when you know, back
in the day when we had tribes, you had to
stay in the tribe. You know, That's how you didn't
get killed. And so when we are struggling like majority
(07:56):
other people, we feel like we belong. So that's actually
a benefit. And so another benefit of when I, you know,
had this belief was if I'm struggling, then I don't
have to help other people. Like for example, now that
I earn a lot more money. I do have to
have difficult conversations where people ask for the money, people
(08:18):
want something from me. I'm always like, do they actually
like me as a friend or do they want something
from me? Like that brings something up, which is a
whole new thing. So I call this second hand gain.
So something that you could start inquiring consciously is even
like you being late, what do you actually get out
of that? And a really simple thing which might be
(08:40):
hard to admit, is when you're late, you get more attention.
People say, oh, you're always late, or you're the last
one to walk into the room. So are you Maybe
when you grew up you didn't get much attention and
this was actually a coping mechanism that you used to
get attention.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Interesting, isn't it interesting? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
But a lot of us wouldn't want to look at
that because it's like, oh, I'm not attension seeking. Yeah,
because I'm like, no, that's honestly why I'm lital. And
so you could start inquiring being like, what secondhand gain
am I getting from this? For example, when we gossip,
we actually get serotonin, which is the happy hormone, because
(09:22):
it's so toxic, so toxic, and this is why we're
addicted to reality TV shows and you know, all those
sorts of things. We get these serotonin and dopamine hits
anytime that we are safe and someone else is showing
us what's wrong or right but we're safe, which is
technically gossiping. It's like someone you know coloring outside the lines.
(09:44):
We're like, oh, thank god, that weird, Yes exactly, And
so we actually get like dopamine serotonin and it's addictive
because it's like why do we drink coffee. It's because
we get that feeling, we get that vibe and we're like, oh,
I want that again, and it's like why do we
like sugar? Like it's addictive. So what we don't actually
realize is a lot of our behavior subconsciously is benefiting us.
(10:07):
It's just like I talk about this concept with money.
I used to be someone who was terrible with money.
I used to have to borrow money from my partner.
He would have to pay for someone my rent. I
would always have no money in my bank account. But
what it also meant is I got to lean into
being a damsel. He always got to help me out.
(10:27):
I always got to be like, oh poor me, I've
got no money, he would buy me things. And that's
actually something that people enjoy because they feel looked after,
you know, like growing up, I didn't really get that,
so I enjoyed that. It's very much. You know, secondhand
gain is usually a little bit ugly, but it's like
what am I actually benefiting from? So that's the first
(10:49):
thing I would say doing. And again it can be
hard if your ego is a bit closed off to it,
but I would be figuring out, okay, what actual secondhand
gain from that? And then then the next thing you
want to do is think of it. The concept of
the belief is like a table and you want to
be knocking out the legs so you're subconscious can see
(11:12):
that the new belief is actually safe. So that's why
anytime that you know, the subconscious belief comes up, you
basically want to be going okay, But do I want
to be a damsel? No? I actually want to be
like okay to make money and hold money. And then
you have to constantly go through those new beliefs and
(11:34):
that like you're knocking the belief out. So again it
does take a lot of like journaling self inquiry. I
do have like a full limiting belief formula that I
teach in my courses that goes a lot more in depth.
But do you see how it's like a layered approach.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah, it's it's definitely extremely deep work, which is why
it's uncomfortable, because you're basically turning your mind to frameworks
and things that you just accept it as yourself, which
actually not. And when you realize that, you don't have
to think that you're not worthy of being the top
five podcast, so you're not worthy of having a multimillion
(12:09):
dollar business, so you're not worthy of getting that promotion.
When you realize that you're the person standing in your
own way, it's a very hard pill to swallow.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
But the other side of that.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Is everything you want and everything you could possibly imagine
as well. I've seen it firsthand myself. It's for me.
It's kind of always made sense. The way I think
and feel about myself is reflected in my reality. And
I still go through these bouts where you know, maybe
I'm having I don't know. Sometimes it kind of feels
a bit like this, and I feel like it's a
bit of a low period and maybe my old beliefs
(12:39):
are coming in, Like I feel like this work, like
it's so important, but it's also never ending, like because
like you said, never now that you've you know, come
into money, you're now dealing with other things that have
popped up and kind of created your reality.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
So the brain is.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Always trying to protect us. It's just important to work
out whether it's what's its instruction manual?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
You know, well that's even like just to bounce off
that really quickly. Is so initially my whole thing after
doing law was like how do I be my authentic self?
How do I step outside the box? And it was
very this like be bold, be a risk taker. And
that's like how I started my business is I was this,
you know, incredible business woman and I was started a
(13:20):
podcast and I was loud and I was proud, and
I was like really, you know, very like feminist and
like that sort of vibe. And it's so interesting because
I'm now rolling into a new identity where me and
my partner want to have a second child, and I'm
noticing this whole new season where I'm like, well, how
could I actually be a business owner but be super
(13:40):
feminine and how could I be super soft? And am
I actually a very assertive and determined person or is
that just something that I use to get what I want?
But now I can change it. A big thing I
want to say is the identity that you're stepping into,
don't worry because you'll constantly be morphing and changing and
(14:01):
be okay with it, lean really in, but know that
you go through seasons and it's going to change. And
that's what I mean. Like, sorry, what you were saying
is it is never ending. And so now I'm like, oh,
how can I be a business owner and like this beautiful,
like feminine flow, like so different to who I am,
But it feel like my identity and I wonder what
(14:23):
my reality would look like. Yeah, so to see how
it's like, oh wow, I'm literally just going to change
my whole life.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yeah, no, it's amazing. I heard this amazing thing on
TikTok actually yesterday.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I want to share it with you.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
So it was basically about the difference between masculine and
feminine energy and how that impacts your life's purpose. Basically,
so they said, imagine you've got a metaphorical mountain. Men
start their life at the bottom of the mountain, and
they spend their whole life achieving striving problem solving, to
try and prove themselves, to try and provide to get
(14:55):
to the top of the mountain. Whereas females are born
already at the top of the mountain. They're already worthy.
And it was that difference in you know, you, as
a business owner and as a mother, stepping out of
that masculine energy of striving and providing. I mean, it's
not to say you can't be that way, but it's
just to say that you're already born worthy of those things.
(15:16):
So anything and you want to achieve is out of
that energy that you've already got it and you don't
need to prove it to anybody else.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Well that's even like, yeah, I definitely was creating and
running my businesses in a very masculine energy for you know,
the last five years. And look it works, like I
obviously scaled my businesses. I have an eight figure company,
a seven figure company. But I was like, fuck, if
I'm gonna have another child, I don't know if this
is sustainable, and so like, what's a more sustainable approach?
(15:45):
And that is it's that innate feminine energy. And so
it feels unnatural to me because I was in the
masculine energy for so long. But I'm like, no, I'm
ready to stop driving, to stop pushing, to stop problem solving.
I'm ready to do it a different way. So I
love that you brought that up.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
This is really interesting. I feel like I'm having this
conversation more and more. And I don't know if you
feel this way, but I find that like the older
I'm getting, the more traditional I feel I am. Now
this kind of comes with two parts. I feel very
grateful to live in a time whereas females, we have
so much opportunity and.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Choice versus sey like fifty years ago. Right Like we
can start businesses.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
We can do whatever we want, Like we live in
a country where that's a possibility, and I feel very
grateful for that. But I also really respect and value
the role of being a nurturer and being in the
home and leaning into that energy and being in a
position where I can potentially do both.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
And so I feel this kind of.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Regression back to more traditional roots with the cherry on
top of like being able to still do my things.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
One thing I wanted to ask you about.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
You've kind of been open about how you didn't feel
quite maternal straight away when you had Ivy.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Do you think that's because you.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Were really heavily in this masculine energy, which of course
brought you so much success.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Do you think that was a contributing factor.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Absolutely, And well, now that I can reflect and I
have like, I have hindsight, absolutely, and that's why I'm like, wow,
with this next baby, I do want it to be
different because I feel like I didn't not that I
didn't get the whole experience, but I noticed after I
(17:23):
had Ivy, because I was still in such a masculine energy,
I was like, I need to get back to work.
I couldn't be present, I couldn't enjoy it. And I
kind of, yeah, I feel like I didn't get the
full experience. And obviously, I like, I truly believe like
everything happens for a reason. It was all perfect, and
(17:44):
you know, Ivy was meant to have that experience also,
But one hundred percent, I'm like, I do want this
time to be different because I was in such masculine
energy and it is incredible because as women, we are
being like I can do what the fuck I want,
and I can do anything I want, and it's beautiful
and it's incredible and I absolutely say, like, go out
(18:07):
and do it, but there definitely is something to what
you're saying about. But I also want to be able to,
you know, sit at home with my newborn and not
be thinking about a Black Friday strategy, do you know
what I mean? But it is hard because often we
have built these businesses in a masculine way and then
(18:29):
we you know, have babies and do the family and
it's such an identity crisis. Which I've done a lot
of identity work on this and being a working mum,
and that's why I really feel the poll this next season,
I'm like, I want to prove it to myself that
I can still run my businesses but in a different way.
And that starts now before I'm even pregnant, before you
(18:53):
know it happens, because yeah, I completely was in masculine
energy and it felt unnatural, and so you know, it
was still a beautiful experience. And I love my daughter
so much and I love being a mom so much,
but yeah, I'm really looking forward to a different experience.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yeah, I think this is very topical at the moment.
I mean, I know a lot of your listeners, a
lot of my listeners, they're very a type high achieving women,
and it's something that's really top of mind for me
now too, how to strike this balance between being that
person who I feel I genuinely am, and I don't
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feel that that's necessarily a masculine thing right to be driven,
although sometimes the way we go about.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
It isn't that masculine energy.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
What identity shift needs to happen for you between let's
just say, experience with baby one and experience with baby two,
that you're looking to have that more fuller experience or
just to have what's kind of this next season about
for you?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Well, I've already started doing it where I have I
no longer need to be the main driver in my business.
So like from a very practical lens, it has been
putting a team in place, so I'm not doing everything.
If you think about masculine energy, it's the doing the
feminine energy, it's the visionary, it's the this is what
(20:19):
I see, this is the vibe, and then the man
goes and does it for her. So in my businesses,
I am have already created the practical sense of I
still want to be the visionary. I still want to
hold the vision of the companies, but I have let
go control. I have surrendered, and obviously it's taken time
(20:42):
to build a team. I have the most incredible team Erica,
like oh my god, and they absolutely can run the
show without me, and obviously so blessed that my business
can be in that sort of position. But obviously there
is a lot of things like contractor virtual assistance, all
those sorts of things, but having a support system who
(21:04):
can be the doing of my business is definitely feels
like the key to this next season because even at
the moment, we laugh because Ivy's birthday is she was
born literally on Black Friday three years ago, and it's
the busiest yeah, the busiest time for e comm and
we just laugh because that's like her as a person.
(21:27):
And so every single year we go away for her birthday,
and so I'm away on the busiest week of the
whole year for e comm.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
The universe did that one on purpose.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Yeah, it said, like, let go a bitch, and so like,
I'm going away to Fiji for her birthday as we're
currently recording, and the team's got it. I have no worries,
like I have set that up. So it's the very
practical sense of like, well, what's the doing, how can
I outsource? How can I get support? And then staying
in my feminine energy of like this is the vision,
(21:59):
this is the vibe. And then I think feminine energy too,
is that energy of just surrender. So even you know,
let's say I'm in the newborn stage when I have
my second baby, it's like not being worried what other
people are doing, not being worried, you know, if the
business is just staying the same, like not being like
(22:21):
we need to scale it, we need to you know,
those sorts of things, and just being surrendering and like
the universe has my back, the team has my back
and embracing it because honestly, my team can fully have
it under control. But if I'm not leaving, letting go
of control, I'm like the little micromanager that like ruins everything.
So I feel like that's kind of what mine looks like.
(22:42):
And then the identity piece is, let's even think about
the secondhand gain is when you're controlling everything in your business,
you really get a lot of the glory. Oh you
do it all by yourself. Oh you scaled this a
bag of honor, badge of honor, Like and I think moms,
especially working moms, we do a little bit addicted, Like
every time I go on a podcast or talk to
(23:03):
them and they're like, oh my god, how do you
do it? You do so much it's addictive, Like it
feels good to me and I can on it, like
I'm happy to say that. I'm happy to be honest
about that. So it's like letting go of that struggle.
It's like letting go that I have to climb the
ladder that I have to do it all, that I
have to be the pusher and the driver, and that
really goes against what society has told you about having
(23:27):
a successful business, about being successful in life. So it's
all those conditionings and identities that I have to step
out of.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Yeah, no, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Even if you think about it for me to be like, oh,
I can take six months off and my business, you know,
can just run by itself. Like that's very much like oh,
what do you even do in your business? You know?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
And mean like this is awesome. No, it's amazing. Like
obviously it never starts that way.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
You have to no scale it and build it to
a point where you can make that but not being
that one key person risk is so important, so you
can actually about what this conversation is reminding me of
is a question I kind of think about all the time,
and can women have it all? It's something a lot
of us think and maybe think we can't, maybe think
we can. But I think the whole point of that
question and the starting point is you have to define
(24:15):
what having it all means to you. Yes, right, So
when you talk about staying in your own lane, when
you talk about not leaning into what society tells.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
You your success, what does that actually mean to you?
Speaker 2 (24:25):
And then you start shaping your reality around that because
I don't know if you felt that way, But when
I was at law school and thinking about moving up
in the ranks and I was seeing my partner in
a corner office and thinking is that going to be
my life? That wasn't having it all to me? You know,
she was amazing at her job, but she never saw
her kids, and I knew that wasn't what I wanted.
So that's when the spark started going off in my head, like, Okay,
(24:46):
I've been told that this is a great career to have,
and you know a lot of people think I'm so
amazing for being a lawyer, but it's not.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Actually the reality of it is not to me having
it all, and it's not the life I want.
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Speaker 2 (26:37):
What role does manifesting play in the identity shift?
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Is it kind of separate? Is it parallel? Is it
in como?
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yeah? Well, in the work that I teach, the work
that I do, it honestly just feels like it's just
meshed together. Like manifesting just feels like second nature for me.
But how it would integrate is first of all, I
love what you said is a very simple manifesting formula
that is also identity work. Is you know, let's just
say to have it all. So it's like, like you said,
(27:07):
the first step is what like getting clear on what
that means for you. And that's why you know, manifesting
vision boards, it's very important to be like, well, what
do you care about and what do you want? And
but here's the thing that most people stumble on when
they're manifesting is you know, they put the range rover
on the vision board because that's what their best friend did,
(27:30):
or that's what they see on Instagram, do you, I mean,
they're not actually getting to this beautiful core, authentic self
place and creating goals. I actually just created a course
called Your Magnetic Blueprint where I go through this and
it's only a two week course. It's a very short
New Year's sort of vibe course, and I spend the
first week really teaching people who is their authentic self
(27:55):
and what are their authentic desires not coming from? Yeah,
what does your algorithm say? What does your best friend say,
your mom, your sister, your partner, TV, all those sorts
of things, Because that's where I feel like we get
unhappy and we get depressed and we get sad and
all those things. It's because you're wanting what you think
(28:15):
you should, but it's not actually what you desire from
an authentic place. So and yes, and that course the
first week is literally on like who are you authentically
and what are your authentic desires? And then the second
week is we create goals from that place. So it's
about getting clear on like what does having it all
mean to you? Because if you don't care about having,
(28:37):
you know, a sport car or an expensive car, that's
literally just repayments that you could put to maybe your
big thing is you love horse riding?
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Like holidays or like you're an experienced person, those sorts
of things. So getting clear is the first step, and
then the second step comes in the identity work of
well that person, Now you're clear on what it means
to having it all for you that person, like who
are they? What are their beliefs, what are their routines,
what are their desires? All that sort of thing. So
(29:09):
for me with the you know, the mom who's having
six months off with her newborn, one of those you know,
identity pieces would be I trust my team completely. If
something doesn't go exactly to plan, I'm not worried. I
don't have to know the finer details. I trust they're
done by the team. Like that's the idea.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Do you see that? The vibe not seeing it? Do
you listen? I hear it? Do you hear that?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
And so you know, that's really like the second part.
And then let's say the third part is where the
real manifestation piece comes in. And this is you holding
the vision even when your reality shows you the opposite
or something different. And again this is where people full
(29:58):
off they can't do it because you know they're manifesting.
Let's say it's my example of this beautiful feminine motherhood
season and then my whole team quits, so that that
would feel like, you know, a knife to the heart,
Like it would be like, oh my god, what am
I going to do? But it's in those moments where
(30:19):
you have to hold the vision and be like, well,
obviously that team was not going to execute on that,
So I have to trust and I have to get
into you know what I mean, Like it's or even
a lot of people, like manifestation is believing it's going
to happen until the eleventh hour. It's like still trusting.
(30:39):
Like we just finished our Abundance Academy, which is our
money mindset cause. And I was talking to a girl
that a retreat we did, and she was saying, Georgia,
like I found it so difficult. I was manifesting sixteen
thousand dollars to pay off my debt and it was
the end of the thirty days and I hadn't know,
(31:00):
like I hadn't paid off the day. If anything, I
was more in debt, and I was like, what the
you know, what the fuck? And then she's like, bit,
I held the vision, I kept doing the formula, I
kept doing the work. And then she said, literally the
day after I finished the Abundance Academy, so wild, I
had a bonus come in from a previous work that
(31:23):
like never got paid to me.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
I love this stuff.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
And it was like and she's like, guess how much
it was? And she's like sixteen thousand, three hundred and
blah blah blah, like the exact number. And I was like, obviously,
that's like such a crazy story. And even me, who I,
you know, manifest every single day and I'm like, really
like it happened, but it works, it works. But that
is like the definition of the last step is like
(31:48):
you need to hold the vision and embody because for example,
me wanting that beautiful Newborn season, if I go into oh,
I've never kind of had the Newborn season, you know
why is happening to me? No one wants to work
with me, No one likes my company. That is not
holding the vision or embodying that person. The person who
has that goes this is perfect. That team couldn't execute.
(32:12):
Do you see the difference? And that's what I truly believe,
Like how manifestation comes in with the identity whack.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Arguably, this is like the hardest part, right, especially when
you're at the beginning and you're making that shift, you're
taking that quantum leap, but you haven't really started seeing
things happen. What do you think are the major things
that block people having that faith?
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Like?
Speaker 3 (32:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
I feel sometimes I can be impatient even though everything
has its own time, and always in hindsight you're like, God,
it happened the way it was supposed to. Yes, what
are the main things that block people holding that space
and holding that vision?
Speaker 1 (32:48):
The biggest thing that I'd say is like just constantly
comes up in my courses in my community is and
again I find, you know, the amazing community who listens
to podas podcasts like yours online is they are go getters.
You know, they are high functioning, they go getters. Yes,
they want it yesterday, and they often can be a
(33:11):
little bit of a control freak, which we need to
be these amazing determined people. And so I find the
biggest block is people going but I don't know how
so they or it's not coming in how I thought
it's the how it's this Howard I hear all the time.
I'm like, the hell doesn't matter. And that's even like
(33:32):
when you're creating, you're actually in the magnetic blueprint the
New York course I was talking about before I get
them to do this thing where I'm like, Okay, what's
three milestones of how this goal could come in? And
I get them to fully like write them out, and
then I'm like, but the how doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
They're like, what, wipe them out?
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Forget you right, actually throw it in the bin. But
what we need to do as humans is often it
makes us feel better to be like, oh, well it
could come in this way. You know, it could come
in through my boss, it could come in through my partner,
blah blah blah. And that's fine if it helps you
stay on the vision. But in the end, the how
doesn't actually matter. So if we're in a position where
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we're like, but I don't know how this could ever happen,
that's the block because I'm like, but the how is
not up to you. And something that I say that
really helps me in these moments is it's going to
be better than I could have imagined. Like if you
told me when I was twenty one doing my law degree.
You're going to start this business. It's going to be
(34:35):
an eight figure business, and then you're going to start
this side hustle that turns into a seven figure business.
And it's literally you talking on a podcast about the
things you love and then you know you have the
dream family and the dream house and the dream car
and blah blah blah. My brain wouldn't even been able
to understand how I got there, or like the steps,
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or even probably the vision. Yeah, And so that that's
why I'm like, you're gonna mess up if you try
and be like, oh, but it happens this way. And
even a really funny story is our manufacture for naked Harvest.
How we found them was my brother's friend did a
roofing job for him and was like, oh, my friends
(35:20):
are starting this supplement business blah blah blah, and they're
an amazing manufacturer. Incredible. That's how we found them.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
You can never plan this.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
You can't plan then you can't make this up. And
that's why I'm like, you need to let go of
the how. It's going to be your biggest block.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, that's a big one. I think a lot of
people resonate myself included. It's that it's because we're type A. Yeah,
it needs to know the formula I need to know.
It's like that quality of us makes us so successful
and driven and motivated, but it's like you just need
to turn it off sometimes and learning that's actually been
quite difficult for me. I found, like I get really
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frustrated with impatience sometimes totally. But that's something I'm like
really working on and trying to surrender.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
To a little more. Before you said, you know, when you.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Get people to start thinking about their identity, you start
working out what's true and authentic for them and what's not.
Just for people listening, you know, they might have some
things on their vision board or some things that they
think they want. How do you actually separate because after
so long and so many layers of voices over the
years and what people tell you, how do you actually
separate what you want versus what someone else told you
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you want.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
So a really quick way that you can do it is,
first of all, anytime you do this work, you do
want it to be in a cented, grounded space. So
I always recommend, you know, getting into nature, doing a meditation,
just having some space. Don't try and do this work
if you're like I got fifteen minutes my calendar and
you're at work and it's all crazy and you know, chaotic.
So first of all, like I feel like that's self explanatory,
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but get yourself into a space where you can be
grounded and scentered and you can be connected to your body.
So my body connection and in like that's what intuition is,
and so that is huge. So that would be the
first thing is just get connected, get quiet. If you
don't meditate, like five minutes a day, guys, honestly life
(37:14):
changing anyway, I digress. So what I would say is
tune into yourself being that grounded state first. And if
this like let's say we're talking about desires that we want,
if this desire comes from a place of fear or
a place of proving yourself or a place of if
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I don't have it now, I need to have it now,
like that chaotic energy, desperate energy, anytime that desire like, oh,
but so and so got this brand new car, like
I need it, blah blah blah's husband brought her this
I need a new grain. Yet comparison, if it's because
you're you think your parents, like it will please your parents,
(37:56):
your partner.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Your kids.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
If it's coming from that place, you know it's not
an authentic desire, and it's okay to have them. But
it's also just being very honest about it, like this
is probably coming from an ego, a materialistic all those
sorts of things placed, and it's okay to have those desires,
Like I am very you know, they might call me
a materialistic. I love the car, the jury, like all
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those sorts of things, but they are not my authentic desires.
That's not something I'm going and working for. It's a
by product. And so how you know you're going through
an authentic desire is it feels calm, It feels grounded.
It feels like, wow, this will be this will be
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growth for me. Like when I think of me going
through this newborn phase in this very feminine energy, I'm like, wow,
that's going to be a challenge, and it feels like
growth for my character, for Georgie as a person, for
her evolution.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Beautiful.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
It doesn't feel like I'm doing it. Obviously it benefits Tim,
my husband, and the new baby, but it's not like
I'm going to do this so Instagram can think I'm
feminine or a trad wi you know what I mean,
Like it's not coming from that place, and it feels
so centered and grounded and like, wow, this is going
to be huge for my family, It's going to be
huge for me, and I'm really excited to it. I'm
(39:16):
a little bit scared, but I'm excited. Do you see
the difference? And I truly believe when you tune into
your body, you will feel it. And if it's coming
from that chaotic atty pushing I need to do this,
I need to achieve blah blah blah, it's not it. Yeah,
but that centered, that grounded it can still feel like
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I said, a little bit like anxious of a little
bit like oh it's a bit scary, it's a bit crazy.
But as long as it's still from that grounded state,
you know, it's an authentic desire.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Yeah, it kind of sounds like you've got to unmask
the intention or the why behind you're striving towards.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
You could even I love this. Like a practical thing
to do is like do like you keep asking why
five times? Yes, keep asking why, and you get to
like the real question and sometimes you're like, shit.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Yeah, yeah, that's a really good on the Someone was
on the show once and they said the five times
why but you can sometimes keep going so given like
sometimes we probably could be desiring things inauthentically. I'm curious
to know, have you ever manifested something that, with hindsight,
you probably didn't want absolutely honestly? What was like got
(40:26):
a bit of a list, the worst one or the
top one.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Well, I wouldn't say it's the worst one, because I
truly believe everything happens for a reason and if it's
not a manifestation you actually want, it's a lesson and
like we need to figure it out, don't we. God,
we can't be perfect. And so a great one was
when I was like, you know, in just focusing on
being an influencer and working with brands and that was
(40:49):
kind of my only job. I remember being like I
worked with great brands and you know they're incredible, but
I remember being like, oh, I want to work for
like luxury brands, like want someone to reach out to
me and it's like a luxury brand, And I wanted
to be like exciting and like because you know, you'd
see people and they're like working for like Lewis, Voton
and like those sorts of places, and I was like, oh,
(41:10):
that would be cool, and so I remember I put
that on my vision board and then I started working.
I got contacted by a luxury brand and it was
a luxury brand that I actually bought you. So I
was like, holy shit, this is perfect and like paid
my full rates. Like I was like, wow, this is
ten out of ten.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Worked with them.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
It was the most horrible experience. They were so particular.
They made me reshoot content three times for very minor things.
In my caption. One of them I posted and I
spelt one word wrong, which is like, if you know
me as a person, I'm the worst spella. And they
wanted me to repost the whole thing otherwise they weren't
(41:52):
going to pay me, and it had already been up
for like days, and like just this situation where I
was like, this was not what I thought it would be,
and this really came from an ego place, and it
was such a great moment because I was like, Wow, Okay,
this is cool. And a lot of people, like a
lot of people in my community will say the same.
(42:14):
Let's say they wanted to manifest, you know, their dream
car range Rover. Let's say they're on the Goldcos everywhere,
and you know they get the range Rover, but it
comes with these huge repayments and it actually puts them
further in debt or it like totally messes up their lifestyle.
And then they realize like, no, I actually don't want this.
This is not this doesn't actually you know, feel good.
(42:37):
This doesn't actually come from a great place. It doesn't
come from overflow.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
And that's what I say.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
It's like I love material things and I'm very aesthetic,
but it's like those things come from like this overflow,
never putting me in a position where I'm like, oh
my god, what have I done?
Speaker 3 (42:53):
Like I step back?
Speaker 1 (42:54):
I step back. Yeah. So, like I would say, that
was probably my best example. And I obviously can't tell
you who the luxury.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
That's fine, we won't. We don't need the tea on that.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Yeah, I'll tell you you're.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
Just so right.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Like jobs, relationships, like things that don't work, they're as valuables.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
They teach you what you don't want as much as
what you do want.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Very quick, very quick. An example, sorry, just I thought
of it is also went through this weird stage so
my husband is a stay at home dad, and before
that he worked in the businesses, and before that he
was a carpenter. And I remember it's our very first date.
I said, I'm going to be a lawyer, so if
you want kids, you have to stay at home with them,
(43:34):
Like I said that from very first date. So he
and he was like, that's perfect, That's what I want
to do. And I remember I went through this space
where I was like, do I want a husband who
can like provide for me and pay for this laviaged
lifestyle like you know, like very TikTok esque where it's
like your man's going to buy you everything? And I
had that thought and then I remember I was talking
(43:54):
to my therapist about it and they're like, yeah, Georgia,
but it would come with you would probably have to
support them in their career. You would have to like
and like it comes like think about what it would
actually mean. So yeah, I think a lot of things
get romanticized and we're like, oh, but imagine if I
(44:15):
just came home and blah blah blah and you know whatnot,
but we're not actually thinking about it. And for someone
who is so career driven and passion driven like that
has always been one of my highest values, so for me,
that wouldn't work. Yeah, So it's like even thinking about
it that way and be like, Okay, do I just
want this because I've seen it on TikTok.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
It's been so lovely chatting to you, getting to a
little bit more about your story. Thank you so much
for sharing your expertise and just your thoughts on your mindset.
Like you said, it's when you're trying to expand listening
to people's mindset people like you is so inspiring. So
thank you so much for teaching us today and for holding.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Space with me.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Thank you so much for listening to this episode of
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