July 12, 2024 • 26 mins
We're recapping Netflix's number one show about the lives of the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders.
The documentary has sparked thousands of conversations about the harsh rules and body image pressures these women face. We're reviewing the most problematic scenes and the reason behind the obsession with the show.
Plus, the trailer is out for Florence Pugh and Andrew Garfield's upcoming movie, We Live in Time, with an R rating hinting at intense scenes.
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3. 'No underwear and no gum.’ Every intense rule the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders have to follow.
4. Kelcey became a fan favourite on Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders. Here's why she quit the team.
5. Ariana was told she was 'too short' for the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders. Then she got a call.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
So much. You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma
Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that
this podcast is recorded on.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill your daily pop
culture Fixed.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I'm m Vernon and I'm Laura Brodnick on the show today.
It's what you've all been asking for. And by all,
I mean Emily. And also, this is the most show
on Netflix in Australia at the moment. We are doing
a brillly honest review on America's Sweetheart Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders,
the new Netflix documentary that everyone is talking about. We're
going deep with opinions and fights up to the last episodes.
(00:50):
If you haven't watched it, make sure you do that,
or if you don't care about spoilers, I guess just
forge on ahead. Sorry, we are recording a little bit
later than normal today because Emily's had a slight emotional
breakdown in the studio that was full mental breakday. I
did cause it. I'm so sorry we did film it.
Maybe I'll put it on the skill Instagram.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Are we allowed to say why?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah, you can say why if you if you're okay,
admitting it.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I'm okay, actually I feel it fit and you admit it.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
So today I got what was a very exciting email.
I got invited to the Australian premiere of Deadpool and Wolverine,
the upcoming superhero team up movie with Ryan Reynolds and
Hugh Jackman. And I was like, I know a young
lady who will be quite thrilled about this. And so
as we're sitting here about to start the record, I said, oh,
I got invite to this movie? Do you want to come?
And I showed you the picture of the invitation just
so you could see the time and date, and I
(01:36):
thought you'd say, oh, that sounds fun. Yeah. Instead, guys,
Emily's face. She looks shocked, her face crumpled, her eyes widened,
and then actual, real life tears started pouring out of
your eyes. I'm sorry, did a family member of something
die in a Deadpool screener? Like? I don't know where
you're going to go with that? Are you crying again?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah? You guys will know if you've been a long
time listen not to spill. I have recommended X Men
as a week and watch in the past. I think
I've done it a few times. And this movie I've
been so excited to watch because spoil alert if you
haven't followed Wolverine, Hugh Jackman's character, he actually dies in
the X Men series, and now I don't know if
he's coming back to life or that it's going to
(02:18):
be like before he died. I know this is not
even part of the show, but I'm getting rose up.
I'm getting wrapped up right now. And I was just like,
X Men's been my favorite franchise ses I was fifteen.
I just got slemotion. I don't know why. Well, that's
also been a time.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
You know what, Well, we're going in two weeks week,
give me a break. We're going to see that movie
in two weeks. Sorry if Emily cries during the screen,
and I will film it for you all. Anyway, onto
our actual show today, and that is a completely different show.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's not an X Men show.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
It's not an x Men show, although the hype around
it has been quite intense. So back in twenty twenty three,
Florence Pugh and Andrew Garfield, those two good looking, good
actory kids, presented on stage together at the Academy Awards,
and their chemistry was so great and everyone's like, oh man,
these two should be in a rom com together. Well,
our prayers have been answered, because the first trailer for
their movie together, We Live in Time, has just been released.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
What happened to My Bye? This is an idea.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I'm so sorry each other yet no I run you over? Sorry,
I'm almer by the way, both, whether we like it
or not, Colock is ticking because I'm worried. There's a
(03:28):
very distinct and real possibility that I am about to
fall in love with you. At first looked very romantic.
So Florence Pugh and Andrew Garfield play this couple who
are brought together by a surprise encounter. It's a car accident,
as you can see from the trailer, and then they
had this beautiful love story where it looks like they
get together, they fall in love, they have a kid,
(03:49):
a kid, it's all beautiful, and then some shock news
about her health, as much as we can tell, changes
their lives, and all of a sudden, it just becomes
one of those romantic dramas that feels like it's going
to completely rip your heart in half. And it is rated.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Ah, oh no, that's we're sad.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, which, well, I mean, no, our reading has to
be something quite explicit, so it has to be explicit
violence or sexual references or sexual scenes or something. So
let's hope for some r rate and sex scenes in
amongst all the death.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Oh my god, I'm really excited for this film. I'm
not a big fan of sad films, but all this
one's not gonna It's gonna be sad. You know. More
tears to come. I'm not sure they're gonna be X
Men level tears, but I will get the tears.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
You could do that thing where you just stop the movie,
like to stop it off their love story and don't watch.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Them, and then they lived happily ever after.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
So this movie is coming out in January of next year.
We'll probably go to a premiere and watch it and
let you know, and we'll probably cry. It's a lot
of pressure every single night. Our job is to make
it look easy. Since I was little Dallas Cowby Cheladers, that's.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
What I want to do. So in America, Sweetheart, Dallas
Cowboys Cheerleaders is still the number one show on Netflix
in Australia. It is crazy how long this show has
lasted on Netflix. We talked about it and spill. Briefly,
I want to say a few weeks ago. I watched
it immediately when it came out, watch the first few episodes,
(05:12):
and I remember recommending it, going this is the best
thing ever. And they watched a few more episodes and
I was like, oh no.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yes, you found it wildly problematic, which we will get
to and I was.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Like, oh, I can't take it back now, so I
think we'll just go double down.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Well, I think there's a few things that have contributed
to a success. One is that there already was such
a huge fan base around the Dallas Cowboys cheerlead. There's
not so much here in Australia, but especially in America,
like they are this very famous entity and there's been
TV shows and articles and things about them before, so
it's building on that level of popularity. And also, once
something takes off on Netflix in this way, it just
becomes kind of like a cult discussion and people want
(05:48):
to get involved. But also there's two things here that
audiences just love across the board, Like people love a
sports documentary even if you don't watch sports, you love
the storytelling. Why so many big movies are based off
sporting events because it heightens our emotions in such an
intense way.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Like the new Brad Pitt movie that's coming out of
F one from Drive to Survive that has the fine
drivers in them.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Because so many people went across whatever sports Drive Survivors
about car racing, but the enthralled in it because of
the documentary. But the other thing is that one thing
that we as audiences love across the board, no matter
what part of pop cultuit's in is pretty Women in Pain.
And this documentary It's true, this documentary has a lot
of that.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
It has so much of that. When we first talked
about it, we touched largely on I think what the
world would consider the biggest problem of the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders,
and it's how much the cheerleaders actually get paid. We
found out that they don't actually get paid enough to
fully sustain themselves. It's usually around between fifteen to twenty
grand per year. So a lot of them have to
(06:46):
have full time jobs. And when I mean full time jobs,
a lot of them are actually like in completely different careers.
One was an orthodontist and one was a like a.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Pediatr pediatric nurse. That was the most confronting because that's
Kelsey who's not confronting is the world. I guess kind
of shocking.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
If she's a lead cheerleader. He's been in there for
like four years.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
And that's such a really difficult job to do. And
you actually see her with a client and you kind
of see like the patients and also the skill set
it would take to sort of be a care for
someone in that level, and then to also know that
she spends most of her time in this grueling cheerleading world,
I think was a very surprising part of the story.
But why it works so well.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And I think that's when the audience has immediately seen
the divide between I guess the cheerleaders who have to
have a full time job just to sustain themselves mostus
the cheerleaders who come from big money background, who have
like family and friends support so they can actually focus
on training and cheering full time. And it was really
interesting because I found out also that the mascot of
the Dallas Cowboys gets paid more than the cheerleaders.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Oh, I would believe it, but.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Some kind of suit what are they doing? We found
out that all the money that the cheerleaders make, because
it's not just cheering that they do. They also have
to take part in like events, they have to post
for calendars, they have to take photos of fans, and
we find out that they're not allowed to say no
to those things, like it's part of being a Dallas
Cowboys cheerleader. All that money doesn't go to them. It
goes to the players who are like multimillionaires. It goes
(08:09):
to the people behind the scenes who are also millionaires.
And it's just these girls who have like become this
full franchise in themselves, are generating so much value and
money for like the top NFL team in the entire nation.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, the money thing for me was more surprising when
I sort of saw the actual skill set of these
women in the time and the prestige around it. And
I don't mean this to sound critical at all, but
the most confronting moment at the top of this documentary
for me was not the amount they get paid, because
I think also any kind of career path that's tied
(08:45):
to something that you could say like this is my dream,
so much that is tied to shit money, Like so
many people who dream of being writers and podcasters. You know,
some people do that for free, for so many parts
of their years acting, singing, dancing, Like there's so many
parts of that of these industries where you work for
free or you get paid a minuscule amount, and so
seeing these women do that, I was like, that just
kind of fits with how we've set this kind of
(09:06):
world up in society. What I struggled with at first,
and I was very critical of, and as the show
went through, I gave myself a big talking to about
not being so critical watching the show is that I
thought their skill level of who they are as performers
didn't match up to the level of auditions, the process
and who they were only because I say this as
someone who was raised on the movie Bring It On.
(09:29):
And in that movie, what you have drilled into and
why that movie was so groundbreaking is that it positions
the sport of cheerleading as more than the people who
cheer on the sidelines. You have that whole part with
Kirsten duns as tour and Shipman saying games are just
like practice for us, like we're about competitions, we're athletes
with gymnasts, we're dancings were a cream of the crop
with the best of the best. And when you see
(09:50):
how that plays out in the movie. It does come
across like that that this is a very elite form
of athleticism and dance, and like the skills when you
see them doing, like the flying and the jumps and
the back flips and the cartwheels, and it's so acrobatic
and so amazing. And I feel like the show Hellcats,
which is a very underrated show about cheerleaders in college
starring Ashley Tisdale, also throw oh my god. But also
(10:12):
as I was watching, and I was like, that's what
I thought. Cheerleaders like, like you see them train like
these really intense athletes and fight for money and fight
for funding, and then when you see their final performances, like, wow,
that's amazing. So when I saw the Dallas cheerleaders come
out and just do what at first looked like a
bit of a shimmy and a little bit of a kick,
and I know, they do the kick line at the end,
which looks very hard, and then they drew the drop split,
(10:34):
which is incredibly hard and ruins all of their het.
Watching that hurt my vagina, And afterwards they're all just like, yeah,
we're all gonna get multiple surgeries, and.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
You're like it's a dundant and they don't get healthcare,
and they're like, yep, exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
So I'm not saying obviously, as it goes along, I
see the skill level and the precision and everything goes
into it. But I just thought from the build up,
their performance is going to be more.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I know what you're talking about, and I think this
is what I learned from the documentary is that after
high school in the year West, there's two lines of
cheering you can go in. So obviously the movies that
we grew up with was like high school cheerleaders where
they're doing both the game cheerleaders for like the men
who play sport as well as they would do like
cheering professionally. But then once they reach adulthood, they go
(11:16):
into like college cheerleading, which is like where cheering like
this cheering is like the main focus and they compete
as like a team of cheerleaders. And then or they
can go into like cheering for games and they're not
really cheerleaders. They're more like dancers, like professional dancers. So
in Dallas Cowboys, they also have women audition who have
come from other sporting cheers. So Anechas come from basketball cheering.
(11:39):
Some of them have come from baseball cheering, so it's different.
It's like you split into two areas. And I think
that's what is kind of disappointing as a viewer when
you've come from thinking American cheers like this one big,
massive thing, but it's actually like split up into multiple
mini things.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Okay, that sounds like very important context. Well, coming up next,
we have to get into the rules these women are
forced to follow because they are very intense, and then
some more unpopular opinions about the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders documentary.
Not the women, Not the women.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Some of the rules that these women have to follow
are insane. I'm going to list out the most hectic
ones that I saw. So they're not allowed to date
the players, which I feel like is annoying to my
teenage romantic self because you always want to see head
cheerleader with the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
That's the only position we know. I think there's also
a running forward anyway, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Sorry. They have to maintain their weight, and the reason
behind maintaining the weight is that after they get fitted
for their Dallas Cowboys uniform, they were saying that the
uniforms don't get altered after that, so if you put
on weight or lose weight, you have to deal with it.
Your uniforms will not get altered to fit you, which
I thought was hectic. They're not allowed to have tattoos.
(12:51):
I'm like, okay, I guess.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, or if they do, they have to be very
small and easily hidden with makeup. Yeah, but I think
they'd probably just scrape that tattoo right if your skin
if they.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Saw after watching the entire process of how they get chosen,
I'm sure if they saw a single tattoo, they'd be
like straight away. Now the num allowed to do spon
con So these women have hundreds and thousand, sometimes millions
of Instagram followers. They're not allowed to monetize their following.
So these are highly influential women. But because they're Dallas
Cowboy cheerleaders, they have to only work for the brand,
(13:21):
so they're actually not allowed to do any Instagram posts
and they could be making so much money they wouldn't
need their full time jobs if they could make money
off Instagram. We touch on this before. They don't have
time off and always have to be on call, even
though some of them are like full doctors. I'm like, sorry,
gotta go cheer.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Autho. Dontges is like there's a kid with his mouth open,
and I'm like desperate need of surgery, and she's like,
gotta go cheer, so to work my home kick. Bye.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
They're not allowed to sit during the games. So these
NFL games last I mean, we watched the Super.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Bowl, we watched the halftime show. Let's not get excited.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I watched the whole one, thes Travis Kelcey. When I
watch the whole one, they have to stand for three
hours and twelve minutes.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
They're not to stand, but also they're moving and dancing.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Standing up straight. They're also not allowed to touch up
any hair and makeup because they have to be presentable
that whole time. They also have a strict regimen. They
have to take vitamins, eat a healthy breakfast, drink eight
glasses of water every day, and stop eating after six pm.
Sound like they're about to go into surgery.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah. After the money thing, the biggest takeaway that people
were quite upset about was how they talked about this
woman and saying like, well, she's not attractive. She needs
to fix her face, her teeth, her hair, do this
with her nails, do this and that, and people found
that confronting, and I was like, I'm sure this is
a very altered, watered down version of what these people
actually say. And again, that is how the entertainment industry works.
(14:40):
I just think maybe some people don't see that side
of it. It's sometimes how media works, It's how the
entertainment industry definitely works. Any kind of performance dance, you
should see what they say about people sort of going
into ballet or any of those other kind of disciplines.
So I think what we saw felt really confronting, but
I felt like they were always buying their tongues and
never really saying any of the bad stuff on camera.
So what we saw was the sanitized version.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Because the documentary itself was directed by Greg Whitley, who
isn't actually part of the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders. He's an
external editorial so he was actually granted editorial control, which
is in my opinion, the best types of documentaries because
it's not them like using it as a form of
promoting their business.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
He did the documentary Cheerwrise and other Netflix documentary with
the cheerleaders, and.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
They'd ask him to come on gave him editorial control,
which never happens. So that's why I thought it was
like so telling whenever. Like you said, they were like
little talks about their women's bodies and stuff. I'm like,
that would have been way worse if the cameras were off.
Now we come to my unpopular opinion. I wrote a
piece on Amamea and I talked about not being able
to watch Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders after the third episode, and
(15:46):
that was because of one of the cheerleaders whose name
was Aniesha. She is a woman with Indian heritage like myself.
And in the beginning when they call all these women,
I think there's about seventy of them to do like
solo performances for a panel of judges. These judges, one
of them's a meteorologists, one of them, one of them
makes shoes, one of them does hair. No one checked qualifications,
(16:09):
no qualifications, but they're judging these women hard. Anisia's solo was,
in my opinion, the most entertaining one. She did like
a kind of modernized Bollywood dance to show her Indian roots.
It was done really beautifully and she made it to
the next round. When they went to boot camp. That's
when they start kind of being a bit more harsh
with the cheerleaders, especially the rookies who are like coming
(16:31):
into this for the first time. We find out that
they cut Kaylin and Darian first, who are both women
of color, and it was so sad, like, I do
not care about you. I didn't want to say that
right now. I did not care about you, Liz. I
feel like when you find a person of your culture
who like kind of represents you in a way in
an environment that you never thought you'd ever be represented in,
(16:54):
you like instinctively attach yourself to that person, and all
you can think about is wanting them to win, rooting
for them. You're like everything they do, even if they're
a bad person, You're like, I just want you to win.
I just want you to represent us. So when Kaylen
and Darren got kicked off, they were talking to Anisa
and Anichea like I have to do this with the
brown girls, and like my heart dropped. It was so sad.
(17:15):
And if you know anything about cinema, you know that's
some sort of foreshadowing because in the next episode she
kind of injured her ankle, and then eventually they said
they didn't think she had what it takes to be
a cheerleader. That season, it was so depressing and I
was so sad. But then something that made me angry
was that she was also kicked off at the same
(17:35):
time as two other women were kicked off, and those
two women were white women. And in the locker room
you kind of see those two women embrace each other
and tell each other that like, we did it. I'm
so proud of us, Like we've done all we could.
And and he's just kind of standing in the background by herself,
Like you don't see any other woman comforting her. You
see her always by herself. There is one woman who's
(17:58):
like think entire job is to like walk the girls out, yeah,
and like hold her hand just to make sure they're
all to make And she was the only one, I
think who talked to a niche shir because that's her
one job. But it just made me realize is that
when these certain industries, like cheerleading, especially in a place
like Dallas that is like so historically whitewashed, that no
matter how much they try to have a diversity quota,
(18:21):
if the culture within doesn't actually change, it will never happen.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Yeah, one hundred percent. And that's why I think this
show has touched a nerve with so many people. It's like, yes,
we were saying before, people love the drama of the
and the glamour of these beautiful women going through this,
but it's highlighting all of these things in terms of
like the racial undertone, the discrimination, the body image issue
and discrimination on that level, even just the wealth disparity
around which of these women can afford to be supported
(18:45):
by their families and just focus on cheerleading and which
ones have to work a ten hour job before coming there.
Like it's highlighting all of these things that are just
parts of society but are in that just highlighted through
cheerleading because it really just makes all these problems rise
to the top. And as you're watching all that, and
I should say, like, as much as I've been critical
of this documentary, I thought it was really well done. Yeah,
in terms of balancing the emotion of these women, like
(19:07):
when they were getting cut from the team, like you
really feel for them in that moment, and then you
kind of really do get swept along, which is what
a good sports documentary does with their story, and by
the end, you really want them to succeed. I think
it did a really good job of answering that question
of why the hell would anyone put themselves through this,
and that is when you see how they're treated in
the public, and like, to me, the parts that didn't
(19:29):
take place in the stadium were the most interesting. When
you see them going too appearances and how they act
and how they have to like hold the foot football
so it get sexual assaulted. That's a different thing. And
then as they were walking through these crowds, I was like,
oh my god. The Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders are the American
equivalent in that part of the world of the royal family.
Like they're trotted out at events. Their whole job is
to make sure that everyone who comes near them has
(19:51):
a very good experience. They're always smiling, they're always being
of service. There's protocols for them to follow, there's a
certain amount of engagements that they have to do to
qualify for their job, and they're there basically for people
to look at an admire and get a glimpse into
a world that they otherwise wouldn't be a part of.
But they're basically the royal family. Watching that, I was like,
(20:11):
this is why these women put their bodies through hell
and go through surgeries and don't have relationships in some cases,
and lose all their money and just like put themselves
through hell to have a glimpse into this like side
of the world, this glamorous side of the world.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
And it is a glimpse because like the lifespan of
a cheerleader is five years before they actually start getting
really dangerously injured and have to take care of their injuries.
We see one of the rookies her sister used to
be an ex cheerleader, and she's just like she has
like hip surgery and hoot surgery and she breaks her
knees and.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Caroline right, every time the camera cuts to her, She's
got a different.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Cast on a different limb. I'm like, what, God, I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
What to do with myself now. I don't really know
what to do. She's like, I'm gonna go do a
turkey run just to feel something. I'm like, girl, someone's so.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Scary, especially the women who actually don't have full time
jobs doing this, because after five years, it's like they
have to then start their career, then start what they
want to do in their life.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
A few notes that we have, but overall, America's sweethearts,
Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders, I think, what would you for a
wonderful piece of cinema.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
The documentary was amazing, and I think it did a
brilliant look, like you said, into how messed up these
kind of systems are for cheerleaders on the other side
of the world. Like the fact that we're so interested
that this is crazy. It's a weekend watch.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I mean, very excited to recommend this since we went
to the premiere this week and is the new movie Twisters,
which is a standalone sequel but not a direct sequel
to the hit nineteen ninety six film Twister, which I
rewatched the other day. And it's on every platform. Guys,
if you want to go, It's on Paramount Plass, It's
on Binge, it's on Amazon Prime. It really holds up
this amazing movie.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Tyler Rawans cause himself Tornado Wrangler.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
If you feel it, I said, if you feel oh,
it's just prob. She's poorgeous.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
You thought you'd get destroyed a tornado. We never had
a chance. One the original movie is much scarier than
this one.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Oh yeah, to an extent. But the shocking thing is
that Twisters, this new movie that no one had really
high hopes for, is actually really great, brilliant in terms
of it feels like an old fashioned action epic that's
a bit schmaltzy, a bit silly, but also just really
pulls you into the story. And the action is amazing.
The graphics are insane, yeah, exactly. And it starts off
(22:46):
on a bit of an intense bleak note. But anyway,
it starts Daisy Edgar Jones, Glenn Powell and Anthony Ramis.
So Daisy Edgar Jones plays I want to say, a scientist,
just a broad broad.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Terms clear what type of scientist.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Called Kate who has a pretty horrific set of losses
due to a twister, walks away from the world and
then gets pulled back in by her friend Anthony Ramis
to like chase these new Twisters and you know, help
out with this technology that might give people more warning,
which is very similar to the original. And then Glen
Powell shows up and he is a Tornado wrangler.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Glen Powell plays Glen Powell.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Yeah, but in the very best way. This is Pete
Glen Powell. Like I loved Glenn Powell in Top Gun Maverie.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
It's like his Top Gun character. But if he was
a good yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I tolerated him and anyone but you. But this is
ten out of ten peak and if to do more
action movie, so yeah, he does. I just thought their
chemistry together was so great, and so they're obvious on
opposite sides, like she's trying to get research and help
out with science and he's trying to get YouTube hits,
and he doesn't respect him and his team of like.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
He takes bigger risks.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
He takes bigger risks. But then they sort of come
together on a ground and I loved it.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
It was so good. It was a perfect kind of
like Enemies to Lovers.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yes, which is the best trope of all. You can't
be beat. I don't want to spoil the ending, but
once you watch this movie, it's at the cinemas. It
came out yesterday, so it's out now. If you are
also a bit angry about the end and thought this
movie could have gone on for at least another.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Hour, Oh what I talk I thought you were talking
about something else. No, I thought you're talking about how
there wasn't any flying cows.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
There was no flying cows.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
That was your not that was my note. If I
had to give a note to the directors. More flying cows.
All the cows. You see cows, but they grounded.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah, they know, take flight hopefully for the sequel.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
There is a new TV show out on Apple TV.
It's called Sonny. There's only two episodes so far, and
now I think they're releasing each episode once a week.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
So why is it? Fun? Food culture?
Speaker 2 (24:37):
That sounds perfect?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Missus Sakamoto. I'm afraid we have bad news.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
My family was in a plane crash.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Things have been weird.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Can I help you? I have a gift. How did
they watch? Say Susie son I'm sunny. Bring it in, Okay,
Roberts can be of great comfort. I don't want a robot.
It stars a Dsha Jones, who if you don't know,
she plays Anne Perkins and parks and razing so good.
She also plays Karen in the office, just like one
(25:17):
of my favorite actresses of all time. So Ridisha plays Susie.
It starts off a big grim. She loses her husband
and son in a plane crash, and she lives in Japan,
so the scenes are beautiful, especially in the city scenes.
She then is gifted from her husband's company a home
robot named Sunny, and she was really confused because she's like,
my husband works in refrigeration, why is he making robots?
(25:40):
And then his boss is like, I can't tell you.
He didn't tell you. That's so weird. So I think
from what I've gathered right now, Sonny and Susie, who's
Rdisha Jones' character, goes on a mission to uncover all
the dark secrets and the secret life of a husband
as this big robot maker and the robots. You know what,
I think there's going to be some killer robots.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Well, I think we can all say that creating robots
never ends.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Well, thank you so much for listening to the spill today.
If you want more content on the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders,
I think that's basically what the mum and ma your
website is right now. We've written so many stories. We
are going to put a link in the show notes
of all of our best stories. You can find out
what the cheerleaders are doing now you can find out
all the other rules that they have to abide by.
Also put a link to my piece in there, and
(26:23):
if you want more from us, please dm us on Instagram.
You can find us at The Spill Podcast. We will
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pm on Monday. Bye bye, Happy weekends.
So much. You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma
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this podcast is recorded on.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill your daily pop
culture Fixed.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I'm m Vernon and I'm Laura Brodnick on the show today.
It's what you've all been asking for. And by all,
I mean Emily. And also, this is the most show
on Netflix in Australia at the moment. We are doing
a brillly honest review on America's Sweetheart Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders,
the new Netflix documentary that everyone is talking about. We're
going deep with opinions and fights up to the last episodes.
(00:50):
If you haven't watched it, make sure you do that,
or if you don't care about spoilers, I guess just
forge on ahead. Sorry, we are recording a little bit
later than normal today because Emily's had a slight emotional
breakdown in the studio that was full mental breakday. I
did cause it. I'm so sorry we did film it.
Maybe I'll put it on the skill Instagram.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Are we allowed to say why?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah, you can say why if you if you're okay,
admitting it.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I'm okay, actually I feel it fit and you admit it.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
So today I got what was a very exciting email.
I got invited to the Australian premiere of Deadpool and Wolverine,
the upcoming superhero team up movie with Ryan Reynolds and
Hugh Jackman. And I was like, I know a young
lady who will be quite thrilled about this. And so
as we're sitting here about to start the record, I said, oh,
I got invite to this movie? Do you want to come?
And I showed you the picture of the invitation just
so you could see the time and date, and I
(01:36):
thought you'd say, oh, that sounds fun. Yeah. Instead, guys,
Emily's face. She looks shocked, her face crumpled, her eyes widened,
and then actual, real life tears started pouring out of
your eyes. I'm sorry, did a family member of something
die in a Deadpool screener? Like? I don't know where
you're going to go with that? Are you crying again?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah? You guys will know if you've been a long
time listen not to spill. I have recommended X Men
as a week and watch in the past. I think
I've done it a few times. And this movie I've
been so excited to watch because spoil alert if you
haven't followed Wolverine, Hugh Jackman's character, he actually dies in
the X Men series, and now I don't know if
he's coming back to life or that it's going to
(02:18):
be like before he died. I know this is not
even part of the show, but I'm getting rose up.
I'm getting wrapped up right now. And I was just like,
X Men's been my favorite franchise ses I was fifteen.
I just got slemotion. I don't know why. Well, that's
also been a time.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
You know what, Well, we're going in two weeks week,
give me a break. We're going to see that movie
in two weeks. Sorry if Emily cries during the screen,
and I will film it for you all. Anyway, onto
our actual show today, and that is a completely different show.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's not an X Men show.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
It's not an x Men show, although the hype around
it has been quite intense. So back in twenty twenty three,
Florence Pugh and Andrew Garfield, those two good looking, good
actory kids, presented on stage together at the Academy Awards,
and their chemistry was so great and everyone's like, oh man,
these two should be in a rom com together. Well,
our prayers have been answered, because the first trailer for
their movie together, We Live in Time, has just been released.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
What happened to My Bye? This is an idea.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I'm so sorry each other yet no I run you over? Sorry,
I'm almer by the way, both, whether we like it
or not, Colock is ticking because I'm worried. There's a
(03:28):
very distinct and real possibility that I am about to
fall in love with you. At first looked very romantic.
So Florence Pugh and Andrew Garfield play this couple who
are brought together by a surprise encounter. It's a car accident,
as you can see from the trailer, and then they
had this beautiful love story where it looks like they
get together, they fall in love, they have a kid,
(03:49):
a kid, it's all beautiful, and then some shock news
about her health, as much as we can tell, changes
their lives, and all of a sudden, it just becomes
one of those romantic dramas that feels like it's going
to completely rip your heart in half. And it is rated.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Ah, oh no, that's we're sad.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, which, well, I mean, no, our reading has to
be something quite explicit, so it has to be explicit
violence or sexual references or sexual scenes or something. So
let's hope for some r rate and sex scenes in
amongst all the death.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Oh my god, I'm really excited for this film. I'm
not a big fan of sad films, but all this
one's not gonna It's gonna be sad. You know. More
tears to come. I'm not sure they're gonna be X
Men level tears, but I will get the tears.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
You could do that thing where you just stop the movie,
like to stop it off their love story and don't watch.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Them, and then they lived happily ever after.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
So this movie is coming out in January of next year.
We'll probably go to a premiere and watch it and
let you know, and we'll probably cry. It's a lot
of pressure every single night. Our job is to make
it look easy. Since I was little Dallas Cowby Cheladers, that's.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
What I want to do. So in America, Sweetheart, Dallas
Cowboys Cheerleaders is still the number one show on Netflix
in Australia. It is crazy how long this show has
lasted on Netflix. We talked about it and spill. Briefly,
I want to say a few weeks ago. I watched
it immediately when it came out, watch the first few episodes,
(05:12):
and I remember recommending it, going this is the best
thing ever. And they watched a few more episodes and
I was like, oh no.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yes, you found it wildly problematic, which we will get
to and I was.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Like, oh, I can't take it back now, so I
think we'll just go double down.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Well, I think there's a few things that have contributed
to a success. One is that there already was such
a huge fan base around the Dallas Cowboys cheerlead. There's
not so much here in Australia, but especially in America,
like they are this very famous entity and there's been
TV shows and articles and things about them before, so
it's building on that level of popularity. And also, once
something takes off on Netflix in this way, it just
becomes kind of like a cult discussion and people want
(05:48):
to get involved. But also there's two things here that
audiences just love across the board, Like people love a
sports documentary even if you don't watch sports, you love
the storytelling. Why so many big movies are based off
sporting events because it heightens our emotions in such an
intense way.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Like the new Brad Pitt movie that's coming out of
F one from Drive to Survive that has the fine
drivers in them.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Because so many people went across whatever sports Drive Survivors
about car racing, but the enthralled in it because of
the documentary. But the other thing is that one thing
that we as audiences love across the board, no matter
what part of pop cultuit's in is pretty Women in Pain.
And this documentary It's true, this documentary has a lot
of that.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
It has so much of that. When we first talked
about it, we touched largely on I think what the
world would consider the biggest problem of the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders,
and it's how much the cheerleaders actually get paid. We
found out that they don't actually get paid enough to
fully sustain themselves. It's usually around between fifteen to twenty
grand per year. So a lot of them have to
(06:46):
have full time jobs. And when I mean full time jobs,
a lot of them are actually like in completely different careers.
One was an orthodontist and one was a like a.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Pediatr pediatric nurse. That was the most confronting because that's
Kelsey who's not confronting is the world. I guess kind
of shocking.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
If she's a lead cheerleader. He's been in there for
like four years.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
And that's such a really difficult job to do. And
you actually see her with a client and you kind
of see like the patients and also the skill set
it would take to sort of be a care for
someone in that level, and then to also know that
she spends most of her time in this grueling cheerleading world,
I think was a very surprising part of the story.
But why it works so well.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And I think that's when the audience has immediately seen
the divide between I guess the cheerleaders who have to
have a full time job just to sustain themselves mostus
the cheerleaders who come from big money background, who have
like family and friends support so they can actually focus
on training and cheering full time. And it was really
interesting because I found out also that the mascot of
the Dallas Cowboys gets paid more than the cheerleaders.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Oh, I would believe it, but.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Some kind of suit what are they doing? We found
out that all the money that the cheerleaders make, because
it's not just cheering that they do. They also have
to take part in like events, they have to post
for calendars, they have to take photos of fans, and
we find out that they're not allowed to say no
to those things, like it's part of being a Dallas
Cowboys cheerleader. All that money doesn't go to them. It
goes to the players who are like multimillionaires. It goes
(08:09):
to the people behind the scenes who are also millionaires.
And it's just these girls who have like become this
full franchise in themselves, are generating so much value and
money for like the top NFL team in the entire nation.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, the money thing for me was more surprising when
I sort of saw the actual skill set of these
women in the time and the prestige around it. And
I don't mean this to sound critical at all, but
the most confronting moment at the top of this documentary
for me was not the amount they get paid, because
I think also any kind of career path that's tied
(08:45):
to something that you could say like this is my dream,
so much that is tied to shit money, Like so
many people who dream of being writers and podcasters. You know,
some people do that for free, for so many parts
of their years acting, singing, dancing, Like there's so many
parts of that of these industries where you work for
free or you get paid a minuscule amount, and so
seeing these women do that, I was like, that just
kind of fits with how we've set this kind of
(09:06):
world up in society. What I struggled with at first,
and I was very critical of, and as the show
went through, I gave myself a big talking to about
not being so critical watching the show is that I
thought their skill level of who they are as performers
didn't match up to the level of auditions, the process
and who they were only because I say this as
someone who was raised on the movie Bring It On.
(09:29):
And in that movie, what you have drilled into and
why that movie was so groundbreaking is that it positions
the sport of cheerleading as more than the people who
cheer on the sidelines. You have that whole part with
Kirsten duns as tour and Shipman saying games are just
like practice for us, like we're about competitions, we're athletes
with gymnasts, we're dancings were a cream of the crop
with the best of the best. And when you see
(09:50):
how that plays out in the movie. It does come
across like that that this is a very elite form
of athleticism and dance, and like the skills when you
see them doing, like the flying and the jumps and
the back flips and the cartwheels, and it's so acrobatic
and so amazing. And I feel like the show Hellcats,
which is a very underrated show about cheerleaders in college
starring Ashley Tisdale, also throw oh my god. But also
(10:12):
as I was watching, and I was like, that's what
I thought. Cheerleaders like, like you see them train like
these really intense athletes and fight for money and fight
for funding, and then when you see their final performances, like, wow,
that's amazing. So when I saw the Dallas cheerleaders come
out and just do what at first looked like a
bit of a shimmy and a little bit of a kick,
and I know, they do the kick line at the end,
which looks very hard, and then they drew the drop split,
(10:34):
which is incredibly hard and ruins all of their het.
Watching that hurt my vagina, And afterwards they're all just like, yeah,
we're all gonna get multiple surgeries, and.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
You're like it's a dundant and they don't get healthcare,
and they're like, yep, exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
So I'm not saying obviously, as it goes along, I
see the skill level and the precision and everything goes
into it. But I just thought from the build up,
their performance is going to be more.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I know what you're talking about, and I think this
is what I learned from the documentary is that after
high school in the year West, there's two lines of
cheering you can go in. So obviously the movies that
we grew up with was like high school cheerleaders where
they're doing both the game cheerleaders for like the men
who play sport as well as they would do like
cheering professionally. But then once they reach adulthood, they go
(11:16):
into like college cheerleading, which is like where cheering like
this cheering is like the main focus and they compete
as like a team of cheerleaders. And then or they
can go into like cheering for games and they're not
really cheerleaders. They're more like dancers, like professional dancers. So
in Dallas Cowboys, they also have women audition who have
come from other sporting cheers. So Anechas come from basketball cheering.
(11:39):
Some of them have come from baseball cheering, so it's different.
It's like you split into two areas. And I think
that's what is kind of disappointing as a viewer when
you've come from thinking American cheers like this one big,
massive thing, but it's actually like split up into multiple
mini things.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Okay, that sounds like very important context. Well, coming up next,
we have to get into the rules these women are
forced to follow because they are very intense, and then
some more unpopular opinions about the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders documentary.
Not the women, Not the women.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Some of the rules that these women have to follow
are insane. I'm going to list out the most hectic
ones that I saw. So they're not allowed to date
the players, which I feel like is annoying to my
teenage romantic self because you always want to see head
cheerleader with the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
That's the only position we know. I think there's also
a running forward anyway, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Sorry. They have to maintain their weight, and the reason
behind maintaining the weight is that after they get fitted
for their Dallas Cowboys uniform, they were saying that the
uniforms don't get altered after that, so if you put
on weight or lose weight, you have to deal with it.
Your uniforms will not get altered to fit you, which
I thought was hectic. They're not allowed to have tattoos.
(12:51):
I'm like, okay, I guess.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, or if they do, they have to be very
small and easily hidden with makeup. Yeah, but I think
they'd probably just scrape that tattoo right if your skin
if they.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Saw after watching the entire process of how they get chosen,
I'm sure if they saw a single tattoo, they'd be
like straight away. Now the num allowed to do spon
con So these women have hundreds and thousand, sometimes millions
of Instagram followers. They're not allowed to monetize their following.
So these are highly influential women. But because they're Dallas
Cowboy cheerleaders, they have to only work for the brand,
(13:21):
so they're actually not allowed to do any Instagram posts
and they could be making so much money they wouldn't
need their full time jobs if they could make money
off Instagram. We touch on this before. They don't have
time off and always have to be on call, even
though some of them are like full doctors. I'm like, sorry,
gotta go cheer.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Autho. Dontges is like there's a kid with his mouth open,
and I'm like desperate need of surgery, and she's like,
gotta go cheer, so to work my home kick. Bye.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
They're not allowed to sit during the games. So these
NFL games last I mean, we watched the Super.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Bowl, we watched the halftime show. Let's not get excited.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I watched the whole one, thes Travis Kelcey. When I
watch the whole one, they have to stand for three
hours and twelve minutes.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
They're not to stand, but also they're moving and dancing.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Standing up straight. They're also not allowed to touch up
any hair and makeup because they have to be presentable
that whole time. They also have a strict regimen. They
have to take vitamins, eat a healthy breakfast, drink eight
glasses of water every day, and stop eating after six pm.
Sound like they're about to go into surgery.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah. After the money thing, the biggest takeaway that people
were quite upset about was how they talked about this
woman and saying like, well, she's not attractive. She needs
to fix her face, her teeth, her hair, do this
with her nails, do this and that, and people found
that confronting, and I was like, I'm sure this is
a very altered, watered down version of what these people
actually say. And again, that is how the entertainment industry works.
(14:40):
I just think maybe some people don't see that side
of it. It's sometimes how media works, It's how the
entertainment industry definitely works. Any kind of performance dance, you
should see what they say about people sort of going
into ballet or any of those other kind of disciplines.
So I think what we saw felt really confronting, but
I felt like they were always buying their tongues and
never really saying any of the bad stuff on camera.
So what we saw was the sanitized version.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Because the documentary itself was directed by Greg Whitley, who
isn't actually part of the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders. He's an
external editorial so he was actually granted editorial control, which
is in my opinion, the best types of documentaries because
it's not them like using it as a form of
promoting their business.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
He did the documentary Cheerwrise and other Netflix documentary with
the cheerleaders, and.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
They'd ask him to come on gave him editorial control,
which never happens. So that's why I thought it was
like so telling whenever. Like you said, they were like
little talks about their women's bodies and stuff. I'm like,
that would have been way worse if the cameras were off.
Now we come to my unpopular opinion. I wrote a
piece on Amamea and I talked about not being able
to watch Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders after the third episode, and
(15:46):
that was because of one of the cheerleaders whose name
was Aniesha. She is a woman with Indian heritage like myself.
And in the beginning when they call all these women,
I think there's about seventy of them to do like
solo performances for a panel of judges. These judges, one
of them's a meteorologists, one of them, one of them
makes shoes, one of them does hair. No one checked qualifications,
(16:09):
no qualifications, but they're judging these women hard. Anisia's solo was,
in my opinion, the most entertaining one. She did like
a kind of modernized Bollywood dance to show her Indian roots.
It was done really beautifully and she made it to
the next round. When they went to boot camp. That's
when they start kind of being a bit more harsh
with the cheerleaders, especially the rookies who are like coming
(16:31):
into this for the first time. We find out that
they cut Kaylin and Darian first, who are both women
of color, and it was so sad, like, I do
not care about you. I didn't want to say that
right now. I did not care about you, Liz. I
feel like when you find a person of your culture
who like kind of represents you in a way in
an environment that you never thought you'd ever be represented in,
(16:54):
you like instinctively attach yourself to that person, and all
you can think about is wanting them to win, rooting
for them. You're like everything they do, even if they're
a bad person, You're like, I just want you to win.
I just want you to represent us. So when Kaylen
and Darren got kicked off, they were talking to Anisa
and Anichea like I have to do this with the
brown girls, and like my heart dropped. It was so sad.
(17:15):
And if you know anything about cinema, you know that's
some sort of foreshadowing because in the next episode she
kind of injured her ankle, and then eventually they said
they didn't think she had what it takes to be
a cheerleader. That season, it was so depressing and I
was so sad. But then something that made me angry
was that she was also kicked off at the same
(17:35):
time as two other women were kicked off, and those
two women were white women. And in the locker room
you kind of see those two women embrace each other
and tell each other that like, we did it. I'm
so proud of us, Like we've done all we could.
And and he's just kind of standing in the background by herself,
Like you don't see any other woman comforting her. You
see her always by herself. There is one woman who's
(17:58):
like think entire job is to like walk the girls out, yeah,
and like hold her hand just to make sure they're
all to make And she was the only one, I
think who talked to a niche shir because that's her
one job. But it just made me realize is that
when these certain industries, like cheerleading, especially in a place
like Dallas that is like so historically whitewashed, that no
matter how much they try to have a diversity quota,
(18:21):
if the culture within doesn't actually change, it will never happen.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Yeah, one hundred percent. And that's why I think this
show has touched a nerve with so many people. It's like, yes,
we were saying before, people love the drama of the
and the glamour of these beautiful women going through this,
but it's highlighting all of these things in terms of
like the racial undertone, the discrimination, the body image issue
and discrimination on that level, even just the wealth disparity
around which of these women can afford to be supported
(18:45):
by their families and just focus on cheerleading and which
ones have to work a ten hour job before coming there.
Like it's highlighting all of these things that are just
parts of society but are in that just highlighted through
cheerleading because it really just makes all these problems rise
to the top. And as you're watching all that, and
I should say, like, as much as I've been critical
of this documentary, I thought it was really well done. Yeah,
in terms of balancing the emotion of these women, like
(19:07):
when they were getting cut from the team, like you
really feel for them in that moment, and then you
kind of really do get swept along, which is what
a good sports documentary does with their story, and by
the end, you really want them to succeed. I think
it did a really good job of answering that question
of why the hell would anyone put themselves through this,
and that is when you see how they're treated in
the public, and like, to me, the parts that didn't
(19:29):
take place in the stadium were the most interesting. When
you see them going too appearances and how they act
and how they have to like hold the foot football
so it get sexual assaulted. That's a different thing. And
then as they were walking through these crowds, I was like,
oh my god. The Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders are the American
equivalent in that part of the world of the royal family.
Like they're trotted out at events. Their whole job is
to make sure that everyone who comes near them has
(19:51):
a very good experience. They're always smiling, they're always being
of service. There's protocols for them to follow, there's a
certain amount of engagements that they have to do to
qualify for their job, and they're there basically for people
to look at an admire and get a glimpse into
a world that they otherwise wouldn't be a part of.
But they're basically the royal family. Watching that, I was like,
(20:11):
this is why these women put their bodies through hell
and go through surgeries and don't have relationships in some cases,
and lose all their money and just like put themselves
through hell to have a glimpse into this like side
of the world, this glamorous side of the world.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
And it is a glimpse because like the lifespan of
a cheerleader is five years before they actually start getting
really dangerously injured and have to take care of their injuries.
We see one of the rookies her sister used to
be an ex cheerleader, and she's just like she has
like hip surgery and hoot surgery and she breaks her
knees and.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Caroline right, every time the camera cuts to her, She's
got a different.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Cast on a different limb. I'm like, what, God, I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
What to do with myself now. I don't really know
what to do. She's like, I'm gonna go do a
turkey run just to feel something. I'm like, girl, someone's so.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Scary, especially the women who actually don't have full time
jobs doing this, because after five years, it's like they
have to then start their career, then start what they
want to do in their life.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
A few notes that we have, but overall, America's sweethearts,
Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders, I think, what would you for a
wonderful piece of cinema.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
The documentary was amazing, and I think it did a
brilliant look, like you said, into how messed up these
kind of systems are for cheerleaders on the other side
of the world. Like the fact that we're so interested
that this is crazy. It's a weekend watch.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I mean, very excited to recommend this since we went
to the premiere this week and is the new movie Twisters,
which is a standalone sequel but not a direct sequel
to the hit nineteen ninety six film Twister, which I
rewatched the other day. And it's on every platform. Guys,
if you want to go, It's on Paramount Plass, It's
on Binge, it's on Amazon Prime. It really holds up
this amazing movie.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Tyler Rawans cause himself Tornado Wrangler.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
If you feel it, I said, if you feel oh,
it's just prob. She's poorgeous.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
You thought you'd get destroyed a tornado. We never had
a chance. One the original movie is much scarier than
this one.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Oh yeah, to an extent. But the shocking thing is
that Twisters, this new movie that no one had really
high hopes for, is actually really great, brilliant in terms
of it feels like an old fashioned action epic that's
a bit schmaltzy, a bit silly, but also just really
pulls you into the story. And the action is amazing.
The graphics are insane, yeah, exactly. And it starts off
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on a bit of an intense bleak note. But anyway,
it starts Daisy Edgar Jones, Glenn Powell and Anthony Ramis.
So Daisy Edgar Jones plays I want to say, a scientist,
just a broad broad.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Terms clear what type of scientist.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Called Kate who has a pretty horrific set of losses
due to a twister, walks away from the world and
then gets pulled back in by her friend Anthony Ramis
to like chase these new Twisters and you know, help
out with this technology that might give people more warning,
which is very similar to the original. And then Glen
Powell shows up and he is a Tornado wrangler.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Glen Powell plays Glen Powell.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Yeah, but in the very best way. This is Pete
Glen Powell. Like I loved Glenn Powell in Top Gun Maverie.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
It's like his Top Gun character. But if he was
a good yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I tolerated him and anyone but you. But this is
ten out of ten peak and if to do more
action movie, so yeah, he does. I just thought their
chemistry together was so great, and so they're obvious on
opposite sides, like she's trying to get research and help
out with science and he's trying to get YouTube hits,
and he doesn't respect him and his team of like.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
He takes bigger risks.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
He takes bigger risks. But then they sort of come
together on a ground and I loved it.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
It was so good. It was a perfect kind of
like Enemies to Lovers.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yes, which is the best trope of all. You can't
be beat. I don't want to spoil the ending, but
once you watch this movie, it's at the cinemas. It
came out yesterday, so it's out now. If you are
also a bit angry about the end and thought this
movie could have gone on for at least another.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Hour, Oh what I talk I thought you were talking
about something else. No, I thought you're talking about how
there wasn't any flying cows.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
There was no flying cows.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
That was your not that was my note. If I
had to give a note to the directors. More flying cows.
All the cows. You see cows, but they grounded.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah, they know, take flight hopefully for the sequel.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
There is a new TV show out on Apple TV.
It's called Sonny. There's only two episodes so far, and
now I think they're releasing each episode once a week.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
So why is it? Fun? Food culture?
Speaker 2 (24:37):
That sounds perfect?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Missus Sakamoto. I'm afraid we have bad news.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
My family was in a plane crash.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Things have been weird.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Can I help you? I have a gift. How did
they watch? Say Susie son I'm sunny. Bring it in, Okay,
Roberts can be of great comfort. I don't want a robot.
It stars a Dsha Jones, who if you don't know,
she plays Anne Perkins and parks and razing so good.
She also plays Karen in the office, just like one
(25:17):
of my favorite actresses of all time. So Ridisha plays Susie.
It starts off a big grim. She loses her husband
and son in a plane crash, and she lives in Japan,
so the scenes are beautiful, especially in the city scenes.
She then is gifted from her husband's company a home
robot named Sunny, and she was really confused because she's like,
my husband works in refrigeration, why is he making robots?
(25:40):
And then his boss is like, I can't tell you.
He didn't tell you. That's so weird. So I think
from what I've gathered right now, Sonny and Susie, who's
Rdisha Jones' character, goes on a mission to uncover all
the dark secrets and the secret life of a husband
as this big robot maker and the robots. You know what,
I think there's going to be some killer robots.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Well, I think we can all say that creating robots
never ends.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Well, thank you so much for listening to the spill today.
If you want more content on the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders,
I think that's basically what the mum and ma your
website is right now. We've written so many stories. We
are going to put a link in the show notes
of all of our best stories. You can find out
what the cheerleaders are doing now you can find out
all the other rules that they have to abide by.
Also put a link to my piece in there, and
(26:23):
if you want more from us, please dm us on Instagram.
You can find us at The Spill Podcast. We will
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pm on Monday. Bye bye, Happy weekends.
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