December 30, 2025 • 39 mins
We’re bringing you a list of the must-watch series you might have missed. Sure, there are a few big names you’ll recognise, but most are fresh releases that dropped their first season this year.
From a mouthwatering journey through Italy, to an underrated Netflix comedy about love, ageing and awkward family chaos, plus Kate Hudson’s fun, sporty series full of heart. There’s something here for every mood and moment.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
You're listening to Amma Mia.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Podcast From Mama Mia. Welcome to the Spill, your daily
pop culture fix.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I'm Laura Brodneck and I'm Cascena Lukicic.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
And this summer we have curated your Spill playlist with
some brand new episodes and some of our absolute favorites
from the archives. So this year, there have been so
many incredible new TV shows released, and look, it's easy
to miss them. There have been so many new releases
this year. So if you're looking for your next holiday,
what you want to find a new favorite TV show
just to get lost in. Let's revisit the best TV
(00:47):
shows that have come out in the first part of
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Okay, so I wasn't on this episode.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
You did this one with Taylor Strado and you kind
of picked a bunch of different TV shows.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
What was the criteria for the shows?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I'm so glad you asked, because the criteria criteria, Yes,
because I made it up. I met a very strict list.
Sometimes we went till the end of the year to
the best TV shows. But there were so many incredible
new TV shows that popped up in the first half
of twenty twenty five that we had to collet them all,
and there's so many streamers at the moment, there's so
many releases, it's easy to miss things. So that's why
we thought we would just kind of pull them all together.
(01:23):
We didn't talk about a few shows that people I'm
gonna guess had heard about, like The White Lotus season three,
in those kind of things, because returning shows with a
huge fan base, they're like appointment television viewing, like The
Last of Us and those kind of things I personally
felt didn't need to be on the list, So we
kept it just to shows that was like the first
season or the first time they'd seen them and the
(01:44):
first time they had come out in twenty twenty five,
and it was very varied. We had the Mindy Kaling
created show with Kate Hudson running point, Did you watch that?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
So that had some like mixed reviews. We had mixed reviews,
but not from us. I feel like we kind of
pushed it all the way to a second season Here
on the Spill because obviously the first if it you
haven't watched it, it's Kate Hudson playing this woman who
takes so for her family's company, which happens to be
a professional basketball league, and she kind of turns around.
The first episode a little bit clunky, but as it
(02:15):
goes along, it's like classic Mindy Kaling, classic Kate Hudson's
so good. And there's all these kind of smaller shows
from the first half of the year that were missed,
Like Adults on Disney Plus. Did you watch that?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
No said, this is the perfect episode for me because
I have the mind of a sieve and I forget
what happened yesterday. So to be able to like go
back and relive the first half of twenty twenty five
is very exciting. I think I'm excited about this one.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, there were so many TV shows I feel like
people missed Social as they come out in one go,
all the episodes drop, but if you don't watch that
first week, it kind of gets forgotten. So Adults that
you can watch on Disney Plus is one that we
talked about a lot about this group of twenty something
best friends all finishing college and moving to New York
and living in the sharehouse and trying to get their
lives going. It's, yeah, Taylor's old as time, but because
it's a gen Z show, comes across just you know,
(03:01):
very different and of its time. At the moment. It
is one of the only shows that I've watched this
year where I have to sat in my living room
watching it alone hysterically laughing. And it takes a lot
to get me to laugh like I laugh on the inside.
It's not very often that I would be like cackling out.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Loud Isaiah M.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Cackler, Yeah, you would be cackling of this. I'm covering
her eyes. It's so so good. We also talked about
the Michelle Williams series Dying for Sex. Did you watch that?
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I love I Love, love love that.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I listened to that podcast when it first came out,
and I thought they did such a beautiful job of
portraying that story because it is based on a true story,
and I thought it was so like heartwarming and funny, yeah,
and sweet, And I thought Michelle Williams did an excellent job.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I was so angry when she didn't win an Emmy.
I just felt like that was I just thought that
this was the performance of her career. Her and Jennie Sleep. Oh,
Jenny's so good in Dying for Sex And it's just
an incredible show. It was nominated, but it just didn't
win those big acting awards. But I guess also, like
you know, everyone's like, oh, Michelle Williams is gonna win
an oscar one day, and I was like, I know,
this isn't the rules, but can we not just give
(04:07):
her the oscar for this TV show and just break
the rules because that was the performance of her career.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, okay, Well, we hope you enjoyed this episode and
we will see you back after the break.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
This has been a very tall order to fulfill, so
I hope that I do the spiller's justice. I feel
like you and I, Laura watched a lot of TV.
We rewatch a lot of comfort TV, so I had
to really think about what I've watched and actually enjoyed.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
That's been a new release this year. Yeah, okay, so
you touch on a good point, because first we're going
to do rules, because what is the pop culture and
Entertam podcast without some hard and fast rules type a
girls stuff. But if anyone breaks, I will yell at them. Okay,
so not you. No, that was a dick at Emily
Vedam for when G's on the show. So the criteria
for this year that we were looking at for the ones.
We're going to deep dive on TV shows that have
(04:55):
premiered their first season this year. Okay, the brand new
TV shows that we were introduced to to the first time.
So we've picked our faves, but there's a few others
we wanted to mention.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yes, honorable mentions, because what a roundup of the best
TV without a couple of honorable mentions. Now, these are
shows that were technically a new season and this year, however,
not a new show. Of course, we would be so
silly to not talk about The White Lotus. Ye.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Season three took us to Thailand this year, brand new cast,
although a couple of returning cast members. It was so
nice to see Natasha Rothwell back in this season. Yes,
and of course I can never remember his name because
he keeps changing it. Greg. Oh yeah not Greg, yep,
evil Greg. You can even Greg. Thank you if you
know you know, and if you don't, you need to
go back and watch the last two seasons. Are you
(05:41):
a fan of The White Lotus? Yeah? So see, I
mean I have my favorite so season two of The
White Lotus I have watched close to twenty times. Yeah,
that is like just a lot of something I go
back to exactly, and then this new season I really
did love as well. Particularly maybe it's like season two,
season three then season one. Hard agree with you there.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
I think season one was the worst, and I'm like
almost fearful that people watch that and then didn't return
for the next No.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I have told so many people to go and watch
season two, and they only have recently because of that.
It's good TV, but it just doesn't. You're the hype
of the other season.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I think the point of difference this season was there's
always like usually one or two standout characters. Obviously Jennifer
Coolidge's Tanya is a standout character. Aubrey Plaza was a
standout in season two. This season, I feel like it
was a three way tie between Chelsea Rick and of
course Victoria Ratliffe. Oh yes, because like razy yeah play
the clip here of all of his fabulous one liners.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
We flew over the North Pole.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Most people don't have good values, they're scammers.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
We haven't even seen the place. I promise you it
is very legit. The monk who runs it he has
written major books. So Charles Manson wrote books, Bill Clinton
wrote books. The list goes.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
On you're young, you're beautiful.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Why are you with this middle aged weirdo?
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Piperno, So definitely worth an honorable mention. The other one
for me, Laura is Big Mouth, which wrapped up its
eighth and final season.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
It is such a silly little show and it is
about absolutely like bonkers, batshit adolescents coming of age hormones.
It's really really silly, but it has such a banging
cast and every season they upped in and upped it.
Like season seven, Megan thee Stallion appeared and just wrapped
in it and it was just it's so fun and
silly and I really loved it.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
What about you? What are some of the honorable mentions
for you? This year?
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I mean, I'm gonna say Apple cided Videgar at the
top because that is a new season that came out
this year, but we've just got so many other entries
we had to sort of bump it up the list.
But obviously that was a huge kind of cultural moment
as well as being all TV show that everyone in
the world watched. So we did do a whole brutally
honest review on it that will link in the show notes,
So I'll save all of the chatter about that for there.
(07:54):
Otherwise this podcast is going to be two hours. Yeah,
one hundred percent. I feel like I loved that as
well because it was an Australian story that gets the
worlds and it's always nice when the attention is on
us down under exactly. Listening to so many of the
American podcasts that are in my weekly podcast rotation, listening
to them discover that show for the first time because
they were like, is it fiction? And in happy will
google it a podcast? Let me check? No, this really happened,
(08:15):
you know, it didn't happen. And I was like, oh
my god. I can't wait for you guys to realize
this is a real story.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
And when you do, go back and listen to the
quickie because we did a what is factory fiction in
apple Cider?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yes, I feel like that's the kind of information that
people are still looking for now they've watched that show. Okay,
So getting into the best new TV shows of the
year so far, what is the first show you're gonna
put out there?
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Okay, the first one that I'm putting out there is
from Netflix is four Seasons.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Have you watched this? Yeah? The Tina fe one right,
Tina Fey. So created by Tina Fey.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
It's comedy drama, and there's like this really lovely cast
that goes along with it. So Tina plays Kate and
her husband is played by Will Forte and he plays Jack,
And basically they're these three couples, so like Tina Fey
and Will Forte, Steve Carell's in their Kerrie Kinney, Silver
Coleman Domingo, and Marco Calvani, and it just sort of
tracks their relationships with each other them as individuals, but
(09:08):
like also their intimate partner relationships as they go on
these seasonal couples.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Trips like group trips together. A group trip terrifies me.
I actually hate the idea of it. Really, Yes, I've
got issues. I know, that's the knee problem. The idea
of a group trips. This is a horror movie for you. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Well, I really enjoyed it though, because even though things
do go wrong and one of the relationships breaks down,
there are these really great moments of joy and light
and funny in an otherwise quite dramatic and sometimes sad series.
But what I actually really like about this, Laura, is
I feel like, at the moment there has been this
massive resurgence in shows about teens or teen dramas, teen comedy,
(09:47):
young adult sort of stuff, and this focuses on characters
that are in that next phase of life and the
complications and the nuance that happens in amongst those storylines.
So I really liked it for that reason. You've seen it,
did you?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yes? Now, I really liked it, And I also love that, like,
Tina Fey has just been off our screens for so long,
and she obviously does a lot of creating and producing
behind the scene, but it's the first time she's come
back as a lead actor in a project like this. Like,
I loved her in the show, but I also loved
watching her do the press rounds before it because she said,
the day you're allowed to like post reviews, she jumped online.
(10:19):
She was looking at the reviews and the top most
like comment on a review was from a woman called Ronda,
being like, Tina Fey is the worst actress in the world,
and she was like a U back in the biz,
which I loved for her. Love that A question, though,
if you're a really big fan, what did you think
of the fact that it's coming back for another season
because I found that quite jarring. I thought it felt
like a one and done show.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Yeah, so I hold the unpopular opinion that most television
shows should end after one season.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Okay, you and I do disagree on that.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Mostly I know it is a hill that I'll die
on and we don't have time to go, and all
the other examples.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
This was a one and done for me. Well, that's
why I thought it was jarring, because this is one
of the rat instances where I agree with you because
usually if I love a show, I need ten seasons
minimum and episodes old school TV, that's what I want.
But this one, I'm like, oh, that felt quite self contained.
But it is coming up pro second season, so we'll
see and then I'm asly gonna watch it because Clemen Domingo,
(11:12):
but he was the standout for me. Obviously that man
should be in every single TV show. Well, speaking of
men that feel like they're in a lot of different
TV shows, I mean, this guy's kind of made a
bit of a comeback. I want to talk about The
Pit that's on Max, which has been a huge TV
show that's come out in the second half of this year.
So it's a medical procedural drama, which I try sometimes
not to watch because I am a hypochondriact. I've had
(11:34):
to ban myself from watching Gray's Anatomy. This is a
surprise take from you, No I know. Well, other thing
is like I feel like I'm like I should say
this for the people, because like it is arguably one
of the best new TV shows of the year, but
it does make me feel like I'm close to death
as I watch it. So these are the sacrifices I
make for the spillers. So what's interesting about this is
that it's created by a Scott Gemmel and its stars
(11:54):
Noah Wiley. And Gammel was actually one of the big
people who created Er, that huge medical show that was
on decades ago now and Noah Whiley who's one of
the stars of Ar. So like in the original it
was like George Clooney at the start of his career
and Noel Wiley as the two leads of that show.
People are obsessed with them. They played doctors on Friends
like that was an injury because it was such a
(12:16):
big thing. And so in this it tracks the story
of what's happening in an ear and it does that
thing that twenty four did is that it covers fifteen
hours of an er shift, but every hour in their
shift is an hour of the TV show. So it's
super fast paced, super intense. Noel Wiley's back playing a doctor,
but like in ar he was a very young doctor
(12:39):
just starting his career, and in this he's like moreo,
a kind of seasoned expert.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Okay, my question for you, Laurie is I loved Gray's
Anatomy for like maybe the first twelve seasons, but then
it got stuck in that thing of it's a rinse
repeat right, like you go in, there's a medical issue,
let's sold it.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Okay, move on to the next episode. Does the pit
fall victim to that or have they been able to
negate to an extent. It'll be interesting to see what
happens with the next few seasons because right now, like
it feels so fresh, because you're getting to know these
characters and all the different doctors, and because it's so
fast paced, like every minute you're watching it is a
minute in their lives, and they're bringing in all these
different cases. And because it's the emergency room, it's very
(13:19):
kind of like triage life or death, getting people in quickly,
so it kind of I think needs a second season
to see if it's gonna wear off. But right now,
it like weirdly feels very fresh in medical shows feel
done to death, and it's not all about like doctors
hooking up in on kroom prosms and stuff. Yeah, which,
to be fair, is the only reason I want to watch.
Goes out to me, like I want to see people dying.
(13:40):
I just want to know about people hooking up and
on call rooms, which apparently doesn't happen that much, my
sister tells me. But interesting fact about this is like,
and I kind of haven't helped the situation because I
just said ER about five times. Yeah. But the widow
of the other creator of ER is suing the show
because she says like it's damaging the legacy of ER
and a blatant ripoff. She was like, basically, and I'm
(14:02):
paraphrasing all her legal documents here, but basically she's saying,
Noah Wiley was a star of ER and he played
a doctor, and he's playing a doctor here with the
other people who worked on R. So she's like, you've
basically taken AR and revamped it into this knockoff show
that's capitalizing on her dead husband's legacy, and NOELH. Wiley
has put out a statement saying he's really saddened that
(14:22):
this is happening. But yeah, they are getting sued by EAR.
So that's a lot to see what happens there.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
I think do people not yet know that no idea
is original anymore?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
I know, No, it's I think it's the fact that
she feels that they're really capitalizing because they keep saying
like if you love DR, but not that their official
marketing says that, but like the vibe online is like
if you love d R, this is EAR in a
different way. Okay, so one season of that this year
so far. Yes, I fear that I'm about to.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Lose you with Oh okay, next recommendation again from Netflix.
This is a docu series called Power Moves based on
that name.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
What do you think it's about? Okay, I'm intrigued. I'm
not completely turned off. Power Moves debts well, bless you
a little corporate esponage? What something else? I would wrestling?
I would have watched the shit out of that. You
peached my three interests. Okay.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Power Moves is a Netflix docu series that follows NBA
legends Shaquille O'Neil and Alan Iverson as they lead Rebox
comeback from the brand's Boston headquarters. Does anything from that
sentence appeal to you?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I mean, look, I've seen air maybe Michael Jordan's shoes,
so I'm kind of invested. I don't know if NBA,
which is basketball well done and shoes is really like
my two points of interest. Okay, I guess it's about
teaching you things. I'm probably not gonna watch this one
out there, But do you know who Shaquille O'Neil is. Yeah,
(15:48):
he's a really famous basketball player, right, but that's half
the struggle. Yeah, do you know who the other guy was? No, Okay, couldn't.
I don't know that man, And to be honest, don't
ask many four questions about Shaquille O'Neill. I just know
that he was a basketball player. He is really super tall,
which the fact that he's a basketball player isn't And
he's going to do media stuff, right, Yeah, well done, Laura.
(16:10):
That's probably how I know. Yes, he's a media and
basketball commentator. Okay.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
So basically, Rebook were one of the leading shoes in
the NBA. So lots of basketball players would wear them.
They had lots of sponsorship deals with players. They dropped
and fell from obscurity.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Shaq is back.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
He's now the president of Rebok Basketball and it's his task,
along with the vice president, Alan Iverson. They're both big
basketball players, to relaunch the Rebok basketball shoe brand. If
that doesn't sound like something you're into, that's totally fine.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Laura is not gonna watch it, but maybe you will.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
If you liked that film by Ben Affleck Air, which
was about making the Air Jordan.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
This is like that but real, Okay, that's real. Well
it was ATFLIC. Wasn't involved, and I'm telling you one
hundred percent, Ben Affleck was not involved. He was like,
I'm rich, I love Air Jordan's let me make a
movie about it. This is real.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
What you get at the crux of this is a
massive marketing point. Absolutely, I have the shoes in my
cart to ches now. But you actually get to see
this side of Shack that we've known about for a
long time, but it is on full display where he
is just this giant and I literally do mean giant dork.
He is goofy, he is silly, he is the epitome
of a gentle giant but thrown into this like very
(17:24):
corporate world of like how to make shoes and how
to be a professional you know, sport brand, but with
the side of Shack and the side of Alan Iverson. Okay, look,
I'm not against it. I respect it. I just don't
know if it's for me, but I respect I respect it.
Thank you. I feel about a lot of other shows
(17:45):
have time to go into exactly exactly the other show
I wanted to mention. I feel like this has just
been such a cultural moment that has lasted for a
very long time since it first aired, which is Adolescents
on Netflix. So that's the British psychological series that centered
on a thirteen year old boy who was arrested after
a murder of a girl in his school. And there
(18:06):
was so many huge takeaways from this show. One is
that it was one of those shows that did just
usually with Netflix you can kind of predict what are
going to be these really big talking points and moments,
and like we get to watch them beforehand before they premiere,
and we have these big content plans, and even Netflix
I think was shocked of how quickly this took off
from when they just dropped it onto the platform. There
(18:27):
were so many things at the making of it, in
terms of how they source the cast, and also the
fact that it was all each episode shot in one
continuous movement, which is like performing a live stage play
perfectly in every take. Like it's masterful camera work.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
The only other example that I know of that in
my mind that pulled that off incredibly was that film Birdman. Yes, yes,
I can't even imagine what it is like to film
something like that, let alone be on the other side
of the camera and to be performing. Yeah, I was
reading when they were making Adolescents, they would start at like,
you know, the crack of dawn. Do they one full,
massive sweeping take and they get one more crack at
(19:03):
it up before some doown.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
That is a lot of pressure to kind of get
it pitch perfect in all of those moments. It was
a difficult watch sometimes, but just the cultural conversations it started.
We had so many people like writing into us and
writing articles and saying that like they either watched it
with their kids or they went into their kids afterwards
to talk to about it. It just launched all these
conversations and yeah, just like one of those pieces of
(19:25):
TV that I feel like it really stays with you
after you've watched it. I think you're so right.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
This stirred up so many conversations and really raised this
question that maybe also spread a bit of panic amongst
young parents and people who are maybe thinking about becoming parents,
which we tried to answer on the Quickie as well,
like what is the answer to the question that adolescence poses?
But it turns out that it's not all doom and
gloom like there is apparently some you know, hope for
(19:50):
the younger generation that it is good to hear. I
think that, like, you know, it's so easy to say
this is one of those shows that will sweep award
season and.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
It will be given all of the acclaim and victory.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
But I do think, like rightfully so that one take
thing we said was really hard to do, and it's
even harder to do when it's something of such severe,
like serious content. So props to the whole people that
were involved in that.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
And if you haven't watched it because you were turned
off by I guess just like the very brutal themes
in it, I'd say still go back and watch it.
Because you kind of get swept away in the story.
It's worth the anxiety. Of course, it's only four parts
as well, so yeah, you don't have to commit, you know,
nice little Saturday night binge. Sure, I'm not sure who's
watching that on a Saturday night.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
I don't do that, absolutely, Okay, change your pace here
and heading across to Disney Plus for a.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Show and a man who I love. I think you
do as well, Laura Tucci in Italy. Oh yeah, hot
and also culturally important, but yeah important. It's a lot
of my identity in there. But Stanley Tucci is the
name thing.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Whoa that is delicious? Oh man, you stomach? Wow, Now
I'm I'm more hungry.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I'm Stanley Tucci.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
And I believe that's the best way to understand what
makes a country and it's people unique is through their food. Okay, manjamo,
And this is true nowhere more than Italy.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah is a secret.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Oh really, because it's going to go on television and
then where even the shape of your pasta and the
sauce you serve it with. I love that differentiates the
character and history of each region sharply from the next.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I just smell that.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
It is amazing. You have sustained this culture for thousands
of years.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Now.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
I hope that you'll forgive me because this technically does
not break the rules.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Oh rely, and this is going to happen.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
So Tucci in Italy not to be confused with Stanley
Tucci searching for Italy. Completely different shows. They were on
different networks.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Hey, that one there was from CNN in ed and
twenty twenty one and twenty two.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
This is Tucci in Italy. It's a nat GEO production
which we get to watch via Disney Plus. Is the
premise pretty much the same, where Stanley Tucci is just
being adorable and traversing Italy and eating all the food
and engaging with the locals and.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
All the different regions. Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Am I still gonna make a case that you should
watch it because it came out this year.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Absolutely, That's all I want from that man. Rape. I
just want him to go through Italy and I want
him to roll up his shirt sleeves and show off
his little buff tad and I want him to explain
to me the different flavors of wine and the cheese
and why I should have a particular sandwich and why
should get wine from particular places. All I want from
that man, Well, that's all you get from exactly. Well,
that and for him to be in The Devil wes
pritus equal.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
There's two things I want from that man, and he's
delivered one well interestingly. So the reason that I knew
about this show before any marketing kicked me is because
he talked about it literally NonStop.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I reckon every chapter. There was a mention of making
this show in his latest book, What I Ate In
One Year. Yeah, But in his memoir that came out
a couple of years ago, he spoke so fondly of
working with Meryl Streep and like they have this beautiful relationship.
And so I'm like, if he's not in The Devil
was prior to with Meryl Stree, Yeah, I will be devastated. Well,
he's married to Emily Blunt's sister as well. Yes, they met.
(23:13):
I'll just become a deaf worst protetect, which if you
don't know the law buckling, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
No.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Well, he even Emily bomb DeVos prior and she's like,
you love my sister introduced them and now they're married
with children.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Yeah, and he speaks so lovingly of his wife in
the city. Just that whole family dynamic is fantastic. But yes,
Tucci in Italy, it does what it says in the box.
It is a box worth opening. I think it's like
six episodes in Disney Pluss. Oh my god, so lovely. Well,
I'm going to keep us on Disney Plus.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
But take us to a very different section, Okay, which
is the TV show Dying for Sex. Okay, this TV show,
I wonder what it's about. Yeah, I mean well buckling
because it doesn't exactly do what it says in the
teen in a way. So this show has completely stayed
with me. And it's based on a true story. So
it's based on the story of Molly Ktran who was
(23:57):
an American podcaster. She lived in LA and after she
was diagnosed with terminal cancer, she decided to blow up
her life. She separated from her husband and she wanted
this kind of odyssey to discover what she wanted from sex,
from herself, from partners, and she documented it all this
podcast and Michelle Williams plays her in the TV show
and she is incredible. Like I know, this is a
(24:19):
TV show, but also Michelle Williams is due her it's
time Oscar because she's one of those actresses who's been
so incredible and has been nominated for an Oscar so
many times, and it gets that point where they'll just
give it to her for something, just for her career. Yeah,
And I was like, I know, like this is breaking
the rules, but just give her the Oscar for dying
for sex because it is the performance of her career. Wow.
(24:41):
She's so incredible, so funny, so heartbreaking. And Jenny Slat
plays her best friend based on the real woman in
the show. And as much as it's a show about
Michelle Williams's character signing out she has terminal cancer, leaving
her husband who's perfectly lovely, but also going on this
like wild sex odyssey to discover things about herself, mending
her relationship with her a strange mother, it's really about
(25:04):
these two best friends and the way that Jenny Slate's
character is there for her. Like there's such a heartbreaking
scene when Michell Wiams's character is like close to dyeing
and Jenny Slayts's character is supporting her through it all
and they say to her like should we take the
breathing tubout? But she could die, and she's just like,
I don't know, Like I haven't slept in days, I
haven't showered in weeks. I'm watching my best friend die.
(25:25):
I'm wearing toilet paper for underwear, and you want me
to decide what to do. And so you have those moments,
but then you're also funny moments where she's like reenacting
movie scenes in the hotel room, and also you have
all these like crazy sex scenes as she discovered what
she likes. And I also think, like death is so uncomfortable,
Like I can't stand TV shows and movies that death
I find a way too confronting. I would just love
(25:45):
to pretend that doesn't happen, but the show makes you
confront it in such an interesting way. Like there's a
scene where one are the nurses who's looking after it,
comes in and she gives this speech that's really stayed
with me, where she talks about the fact like your
body knows how to live, but your body knows how
to die. Isn't that amazing? Like your body, She's like,
you don't have to worry when she goes into palliative care,
she youd have to worry. Your body knows how to die.
(26:07):
It's going to do this, and then it's going to
do this, and it's going to do this, and then
you're going to go into a euphoria and you're going
to feel so comfortable because your body is preparing and
like you're watching like Michelle Williams react to that, but
I'm also just watching it as if you were being like,
holy hell, that's amazing, So like dying for sex so good,
Like everyone should watch it, like you'll sob but it's
so worth it. I think that's a really interesting point
(26:30):
about how we approach death in pop culture and television
just in our everyday lives as well, because like, yeah,
sure it's inevitable, but whenever people try to portray that
in television and film, it usually so often misses the
mark where they go too hard with the hand and
the comedy, or they go a too sincere. And this
feels like it strikes a really nice balance between you
two exactly, and the fact that it's also based on
(26:51):
a true story, and like you should definitely like watch
the show and then listen to the podcast because they
really go together very well. Okay, I'm back on my
sport ber Okay, oh wow, that another sports show came
out this year. Laura.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
It's very very rare that I get to come on
this podcast, so when I do, I will abuse that Powell. Okay,
you've seen this though, I'm sure that you have a
take on it. It's from NETFLIXX.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
It's running point. I work in a family business, the
greatest basketball franchise.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
In the history of the game, the Los Angeles Waves,
and this is the story of the fucked up family
that runs.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Tila, I'm making you the president of the Waves.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
When I was a little girl, Daddy never believed in me,
and I started to doubt myself.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I need you to stop because I don't care about
any of that shit. You were the president of the Waves.
Its shocking were on the half of all women. Don't
ever make a mistake. It looks bad for all of us.
We're a family, sys we got your back no matter
what people say.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
What are they saying, just the fact that you're a
nepple baby and you don't know what you're doing, but
you're old, so it's like you're kind of you're like
a nepple chrome.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Oh my god, don't go on red it unless you
want to kill yourself.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
You are the smartest Lord, and I know, I know
that's not a high bar.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Now, we're a family brand. You Ness and Sandy don't represent.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
For a value.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, maybe there's a couple of pictures of my dad
is sadamastein, but we are good people. When I die, sock,
I want to know what you're going to do to
stop the sock. I know the record doesn't show it,
but this is a winning last year and I have
a team to run. So if you'll excuse me, wait,
this is my office. You get a Yeah, I really
liked Wanting Point. I understand the criticism though. Okay, guys,
(28:29):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Okay, So if you don't know Running Point Netflix comedy series.
It was created by Mindy Kaling, who we love. It
stars Kate Hudson as Isla Gordon, who unexpectedly like becomes
the president of the Los Angeles Waves.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Which is a basketball team.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
I'm in my basketball villain error, but basically she becomes
the president. She's got a couple of brothers who also
work at the family company, and they're all kind of
annoyed that she's the president. She was the party girl,
she was the black sheep, a little bit of the
family and now she's sort of trumped them all into
this high ranking role and they're conspiring against her.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Nobody thinks she can do this job. She's out to
prove them all wrong. The best friend slash assistant is
played by Brenda Song, which I know we've already talked
about this, but like, how nice is it to see
Brenda's song that greens That is the best part of
that show for being Like, there's other bits I liked,
but it is the best role that's been written for Brenda,
and she just nails And I hope she gets all
the award nominations for that role in the comedy genre. Yeah,
(29:25):
I'm like pushing for her and Kieran Coulkin. I'm pushing
for her and Macaulay Culkin, but like I would also
be okay if it was Kieran Culkin to like play
a couple in The White Lotus season four. That needs
to happen. Yeah, she needs to be on the White Lotus.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
I like this show because, like we said, Brenda Song's great,
Kate Hudson's good.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
But I also love that there's like.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
A bunch of sort of subplots going on while the
main thing is like her trying to keep the company
the family business, which is a bloody basketball franchise, while
she's trying to keep it all afloat, like there's a
secret extra brother nobody knows about he and I love
that the brothers that we do know about are all very.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Flawed, bad individuals in their own ways. What did you think, because,
like you said, there was a lot of criticism when
this came it was I think there was just so
much hype for it. One is that Mindy Kaling just
makes shows that people feel so strongly about, from the
MINDI Project and all these other TV projects she's done.
It was the first time Kate Hudson had been in
a TV show and like played a role like this,
(30:22):
and so the height from it was huge. Netflix really
put it up as their big comedy of the year,
and I really loved it. But I feel like it
did take a few episodes to find its feet, and
I think it's because the first episode is just like,
it's like, plot, plot, plot, plot much almost Yeah, it
kind of felt like lazy storytelling, but I almost think
they just wanted to pull you into the world really quickly.
(30:43):
But a lot of people, I know, I just watched the
first episode and turned off, which I've been yelling at
people about because it's like, this is Isla Gordon, she
does this, and this is her brother and he does this,
and this is what their dad. I hate.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Yeah, I know people probably either don't have an opinion
of this will feel very strongly.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
I hate when shows like stop freeze frame and then
like scribble on the screen.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
And that's what they do through the fall. They dost episode.
They do that so much because there's like so much
to establish it.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
But I agree, like you have to persevere through the
first episode and then it ends and it's really like
it's not like a huge twist, but it's an interesting twist.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
It is, and I thought like especially it's one on
like it had a lot of heart as well as
being like quite funny. And Kate Hudson just knows how
to carry something that she can carry a movie, she
can carry a TV show. I'm really excited it's coming
back for a second season. Kate Hudson's never played a
character twice because she doesn't do sequels. This is the
first time she gets to revisit a character, and I
find that with Mindy Kayling's writing, it is perfect always
(31:35):
I'm such a fair girl. But I also find that
as shows go along, she only gets better. So I
for like season two, it's gonna be where it's up. Yeah,
it'll hit it strid, I hope. Okay, the other TV show.
And I've been obsessed with this and I feel like
the longer it goes on, more people have mean too,
which is the studio on Apple TV. Plus you've ever
heard so no, but I've heard so much about that.
I think you'd really like I love Seth Rogen. Yes, well,
(31:58):
then you're gonna love this because he stars in it
and he created he was involved in that big Sony
email leak many many years ago, which if you're not
a cross guy, don't worry. We did a whole episode
on it. It's my favorite celebrity Hollywood scandal really when well,
there's so many, but this is so the fact that
all of the emails sent by a list stars and
(32:19):
studio heads were all made public and you saw what
huge celebrities like Channing Tatum and Seth Rogan stuff were saying,
but also what studio heads were saying about Angelina and
Jolly behind her back.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Like I know, it was wrapped up in terrorism that's
really bad. But the juicy Hollywood gossip that was leaked
every day for a month paralleled so Seth Brogan because
his movie at the time was involved in the Studio
League and so he kind of looked at all of
that and use that to make the studio. So the
Studio is kind of like a satirical comedy, which is
(32:52):
about a Seth Rogan who gets made the head of
this very embattled Hollywood studio and he's has to turn
it around. And the cast is incredible. It's Catherine O'Hara,
like Baron Holtz, Chase, Sue Wonders, Catherine Hahn, They're all incredible,
and it's got all these like wild story is about
like the inner workings of this Hollywood studio. But what's
really great is they have all these big stars come
(33:13):
in and play caricatures of themselves.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yeah, it works so well. It's kind of like he's
on a few movies where he has people play themselves.
It's always works so well. But like Olivia Wilde comes
in and plays like a caricature of myself and she's
so good. Zach Efron does it, He's really fine. I
love this. Jean Smart does it. Charlie's Throne. I think
my favorite one though, was Martin's called Saz playing himself
away because he just like what would get it? I know,
like as if he would do that, and he's so good.
(33:39):
Loki kind of a bastard, right, yeah, but he comes
in and just plays like this wild caricature of himself
and I'm sure it's actually kind of what he's like,
but like that is just such a wild ride. So
it's already been renewed for a second season, and you
don't have to be super interested in like the inner
workings of Hollywood to watch it. You can just watch
it as a comedy. It doesn't even matter if you
don't know who half these people are who are playing themselves,
(34:01):
and some of the best people are playing fictionalized characters.
So love it. Yeah, so good. The other one I
want to mention, just to finish us off, is a
show that came out this year called The Last Anniversary
that came out on Binge. So it's based on a
Leanne Moriarty novel and there's so many reasons to love it.
I think, like usually when a TV show comes out
that's based on a book, I've always read the book. First,
I'm such a big reader, but this is the one
(34:23):
Leanne Moriarty book I hadn't read, so I got to
experience the unfolding of this chastory for the first time.
So Teresa Palmer is the lead, and she plays this
woman called Sophie. And this is where things got a
bit tense when I was at the premiere watching it,
because watching it in this beautiful theater. And Sophie is
a woman living in Sydney who writes for a women's
media publication. She's in her late thirties. She's going on
(34:46):
a series of bad dates and when she's ever like
stressed out about life, love or anything, she gets this incredible,
like intense flush through her neck and cheeks. How you
Oh no, I'm like I was watching it and I
literally like, did you know this when you interviewed Teresa Palmer? Yeah,
because okay, yeah, I interviewed her after the premiere and
(35:06):
I so in case you don't know me, that's me, Like,
that's me to a tea, including the intense flush, the
same age and even when she was like she's talking
to her ed about stories and she was like, oh yeah,
just do this and do that and like just the
way she talks about working in the women's media. I'm like,
this is the bad dates everything, Like it's just so
I feel like attacked and I also feel seen. Yeah,
(35:28):
so that's the only part that Sophie and I are
the same person. Because after that, this man that she
had dated years and years and years ago, who's a
bit of a jerk, lets her know that his grandmother
has passed away and left Sophie, his ex girlfriend of
many years, her house on this tiny little island off
the coast of New South Wales called Scriplgum Island and
all the family members live there and there's a mystery
(35:50):
attached to the island. So this is where it's like
a love story of Sophie, like moving to the island,
living in this house and trying to discover why it
was left to her. And one of the reasons she
decides to go is at the end of the letter
it says, I think you'll find love here. There's a
man that you should meet. So she goes there and
she meets all these different and every time she meets
a man, including a man who she used to date
(36:10):
who was married to her ex boyfriend's cousin. It's the
whole thing. Oh, it's a whole living on the island. Yeah,
So as much as it's about Sophie, like meeting all
these different men, some of them are great, some of
them that shares wild sex with, some of them are awful.
It's like also this mystery because the island Scribblely Gum
is known for this mystery where a couple moved to
the island and then they disappeared and a baby was
(36:32):
left and the baby is like a now and a
grown up woman living on the island. So then Sophie,
who's a journalist, goes back and tries to solve the
Mystery's yeah, I just really loved it. I found out
such as so I went to the premiere and I
watched it and I interviewed treesa Palmer and that was amazing.
But then every week, and I've got a lot of
TV to watch, so I don't watch stuff unless I
have to. But then every week I turned on Binge
(36:53):
to watch the next episode because I loved the weekly drop,
and I just found like a personal It's got all
these incredible like female characters like Daniel McDonald's in it
as well. But it's really about all these women in
this unconventional family living on this island, solving the mystery,
the love story. But I also just love when they're
just like cooking in the kitchen and making cakes and
drinking wine. I know, I just really loved it, Like
I know keeps people have watched it and loved it,
(37:14):
but I just feel like more people need to watch it.
I'm sold. Yeah, I think you would really love it.
Don't if you haven't read the book, don't google the ending. Okay,
when you find out the mystery of the baby and
how she was left there and how it's like intertwined
with the family, you'll be like, wow, I have.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
So many like theories running through my head, having not
watched or know any of the characters names Keayla, bring
us home one more very quick.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Okay, we've done it recently, but in case anyone hasn't
watched it adults on Disney Plus. Yes, and I'm not
saying this, guys, one of the funniest shows I have
ever seen, because it's so rare that I would sit
in my apartment alone and watch a TV show and
be hysterically laughing out loud. And when Emily Vernon and
I did this on Weekend Watch. We don't look at
any other reviews first, so we watch a show, we
(37:56):
give out honest review and usually we're like fairly with
other people. This was like quite badly reviewed, and really
I would not normally say this about my colleagues, but
they're wrong. I just don't think they were watching it.
So so it's about a group of four twenty somethings
who are living in New York, like you know, out
in the world for the first time, in a sharehouse
together and it just tracks their life. There's eight episodes.
(38:17):
They should have been longer. They're like twenty two minutes.
That wasn't enough for me. I needed more. Like Charlie
Cox is in it. He's so funny. Julia Fox does
is an episode playing herself. Fantastic, so good. There's so
many laugh out loud moments, so many kind of like
wild moments, Like it starts with a character masturbating on
a train because a man's doing it. She's trying to
stand up for women's rights and like you know and
(38:39):
diggerate quality and stuff. But it is just really funny.
So I'm just saying, like, don't trust the reviews unless
it's Yeah, don't trust all the reviews. But Adults is
on Disney Plus right now. It's eight episodes or are
about twenty minutes each. It just felt so fresh and
funny and I just really loved it. What a way
to end public pleasure on a train. Yeah, It's what
(39:01):
all TV shows should have, obviously, Laura Rodnett, thank you
for having me back. Thank you for coming on and
talking about basketball. I'm sure you did well. Thank you
so much to Taylor for joining us, and thank you
all for listening to the Spill. And there are so
many other great summer listeners via the link in our
show notes, with some incredible episodes covering everything from true
(39:21):
crime to beauty to powerful interviews. And we have an
absolutely hilarious new Spill episode dropping on Friday, where Emily
and I debate which of our favorite romcom couples would
have broken up in real life, and of course we
very much disagree. We're back with daily shows from Monday.
Have a wonderful New Year's bye. Mamma Mia acknowledges the
(39:51):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Podcast From Mama Mia. Welcome to the Spill, your daily
pop culture fix.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I'm Laura Brodneck and I'm Cascena Lukicic.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
And this summer we have curated your Spill playlist with
some brand new episodes and some of our absolute favorites
from the archives. So this year, there have been so
many incredible new TV shows released, and look, it's easy
to miss them. There have been so many new releases
this year. So if you're looking for your next holiday,
what you want to find a new favorite TV show
just to get lost in. Let's revisit the best TV
(00:47):
shows that have come out in the first part of
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Okay, so I wasn't on this episode.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
You did this one with Taylor Strado and you kind
of picked a bunch of different TV shows.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
What was the criteria for the shows?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I'm so glad you asked, because the criteria criteria, Yes,
because I made it up. I met a very strict list.
Sometimes we went till the end of the year to
the best TV shows. But there were so many incredible
new TV shows that popped up in the first half
of twenty twenty five that we had to collet them all,
and there's so many streamers at the moment, there's so
many releases, it's easy to miss things. So that's why
we thought we would just kind of pull them all together.
(01:23):
We didn't talk about a few shows that people I'm
gonna guess had heard about, like The White Lotus season three,
in those kind of things, because returning shows with a
huge fan base, they're like appointment television viewing, like The
Last of Us and those kind of things I personally
felt didn't need to be on the list, So we
kept it just to shows that was like the first
season or the first time they'd seen them and the
(01:44):
first time they had come out in twenty twenty five,
and it was very varied. We had the Mindy Kaling
created show with Kate Hudson running point, Did you watch that?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
So that had some like mixed reviews. We had mixed reviews,
but not from us. I feel like we kind of
pushed it all the way to a second season Here
on the Spill because obviously the first if it you
haven't watched it, it's Kate Hudson playing this woman who
takes so for her family's company, which happens to be
a professional basketball league, and she kind of turns around.
The first episode a little bit clunky, but as it
(02:15):
goes along, it's like classic Mindy Kaling, classic Kate Hudson's
so good. And there's all these kind of smaller shows
from the first half of the year that were missed,
Like Adults on Disney Plus. Did you watch that?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
No said, this is the perfect episode for me because
I have the mind of a sieve and I forget
what happened yesterday. So to be able to like go
back and relive the first half of twenty twenty five
is very exciting. I think I'm excited about this one.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, there were so many TV shows I feel like
people missed Social as they come out in one go,
all the episodes drop, but if you don't watch that
first week, it kind of gets forgotten. So Adults that
you can watch on Disney Plus is one that we
talked about a lot about this group of twenty something
best friends all finishing college and moving to New York
and living in the sharehouse and trying to get their
lives going. It's, yeah, Taylor's old as time, but because
it's a gen Z show, comes across just you know,
(03:01):
very different and of its time. At the moment. It
is one of the only shows that I've watched this
year where I have to sat in my living room
watching it alone hysterically laughing. And it takes a lot
to get me to laugh like I laugh on the inside.
It's not very often that I would be like cackling out.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Loud Isaiah M.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Cackler, Yeah, you would be cackling of this. I'm covering
her eyes. It's so so good. We also talked about
the Michelle Williams series Dying for Sex. Did you watch that?
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I love I Love, love love that.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I listened to that podcast when it first came out,
and I thought they did such a beautiful job of
portraying that story because it is based on a true story,
and I thought it was so like heartwarming and funny, yeah,
and sweet, And I thought Michelle Williams did an excellent job.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I was so angry when she didn't win an Emmy.
I just felt like that was I just thought that
this was the performance of her career. Her and Jennie Sleep. Oh,
Jenny's so good in Dying for Sex And it's just
an incredible show. It was nominated, but it just didn't
win those big acting awards. But I guess also, like
you know, everyone's like, oh, Michelle Williams is gonna win
an oscar one day, and I was like, I know,
this isn't the rules, but can we not just give
(04:07):
her the oscar for this TV show and just break
the rules because that was the performance of her career.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, okay, Well, we hope you enjoyed this episode and
we will see you back after the break.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
This has been a very tall order to fulfill, so
I hope that I do the spiller's justice. I feel
like you and I, Laura watched a lot of TV.
We rewatch a lot of comfort TV, so I had
to really think about what I've watched and actually enjoyed.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
That's been a new release this year. Yeah, okay, so
you touch on a good point, because first we're going
to do rules, because what is the pop culture and
Entertam podcast without some hard and fast rules type a
girls stuff. But if anyone breaks, I will yell at them. Okay,
so not you. No, that was a dick at Emily
Vedam for when G's on the show. So the criteria
for this year that we were looking at for the ones.
We're going to deep dive on TV shows that have
(04:55):
premiered their first season this year. Okay, the brand new
TV shows that we were introduced to to the first time.
So we've picked our faves, but there's a few others
we wanted to mention.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yes, honorable mentions, because what a roundup of the best
TV without a couple of honorable mentions. Now, these are
shows that were technically a new season and this year, however,
not a new show. Of course, we would be so
silly to not talk about The White Lotus. Ye.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Season three took us to Thailand this year, brand new cast,
although a couple of returning cast members. It was so
nice to see Natasha Rothwell back in this season. Yes,
and of course I can never remember his name because
he keeps changing it. Greg. Oh yeah not Greg, yep,
evil Greg. You can even Greg. Thank you if you
know you know, and if you don't, you need to
go back and watch the last two seasons. Are you
(05:41):
a fan of The White Lotus? Yeah? So see, I
mean I have my favorite so season two of The
White Lotus I have watched close to twenty times. Yeah,
that is like just a lot of something I go
back to exactly, and then this new season I really
did love as well. Particularly maybe it's like season two,
season three then season one. Hard agree with you there.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
I think season one was the worst, and I'm like
almost fearful that people watch that and then didn't return
for the next No.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I have told so many people to go and watch
season two, and they only have recently because of that.
It's good TV, but it just doesn't. You're the hype
of the other season.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I think the point of difference this season was there's
always like usually one or two standout characters. Obviously Jennifer
Coolidge's Tanya is a standout character. Aubrey Plaza was a
standout in season two. This season, I feel like it
was a three way tie between Chelsea Rick and of
course Victoria Ratliffe. Oh yes, because like razy yeah play
the clip here of all of his fabulous one liners.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
We flew over the North Pole.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Most people don't have good values, they're scammers.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
We haven't even seen the place. I promise you it
is very legit. The monk who runs it he has
written major books. So Charles Manson wrote books, Bill Clinton
wrote books. The list goes.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
On you're young, you're beautiful.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Why are you with this middle aged weirdo?
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Piperno, So definitely worth an honorable mention. The other one
for me, Laura is Big Mouth, which wrapped up its
eighth and final season.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
It is such a silly little show and it is
about absolutely like bonkers, batshit adolescents coming of age hormones.
It's really really silly, but it has such a banging
cast and every season they upped in and upped it.
Like season seven, Megan thee Stallion appeared and just wrapped
in it and it was just it's so fun and
silly and I really loved it.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
What about you? What are some of the honorable mentions
for you? This year?
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I mean, I'm gonna say Apple cided Videgar at the
top because that is a new season that came out
this year, but we've just got so many other entries
we had to sort of bump it up the list.
But obviously that was a huge kind of cultural moment
as well as being all TV show that everyone in
the world watched. So we did do a whole brutally
honest review on it that will link in the show notes,
So I'll save all of the chatter about that for there.
(07:54):
Otherwise this podcast is going to be two hours. Yeah,
one hundred percent. I feel like I loved that as
well because it was an Australian story that gets the
worlds and it's always nice when the attention is on
us down under exactly. Listening to so many of the
American podcasts that are in my weekly podcast rotation, listening
to them discover that show for the first time because
they were like, is it fiction? And in happy will
google it a podcast? Let me check? No, this really happened,
(08:15):
you know, it didn't happen. And I was like, oh
my god. I can't wait for you guys to realize
this is a real story.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
And when you do, go back and listen to the
quickie because we did a what is factory fiction in
apple Cider?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yes, I feel like that's the kind of information that
people are still looking for now they've watched that show. Okay,
So getting into the best new TV shows of the
year so far, what is the first show you're gonna
put out there?
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Okay, the first one that I'm putting out there is
from Netflix is four Seasons.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Have you watched this? Yeah? The Tina fe one right,
Tina Fey. So created by Tina Fey.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
It's comedy drama, and there's like this really lovely cast
that goes along with it. So Tina plays Kate and
her husband is played by Will Forte and he plays Jack,
And basically they're these three couples, so like Tina Fey
and Will Forte, Steve Carell's in their Kerrie Kinney, Silver
Coleman Domingo, and Marco Calvani, and it just sort of
tracks their relationships with each other them as individuals, but
(09:08):
like also their intimate partner relationships as they go on
these seasonal couples.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Trips like group trips together. A group trip terrifies me.
I actually hate the idea of it. Really, Yes, I've
got issues. I know, that's the knee problem. The idea
of a group trips. This is a horror movie for you. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Well, I really enjoyed it though, because even though things
do go wrong and one of the relationships breaks down,
there are these really great moments of joy and light
and funny in an otherwise quite dramatic and sometimes sad series.
But what I actually really like about this, Laura, is
I feel like, at the moment there has been this
massive resurgence in shows about teens or teen dramas, teen comedy,
(09:47):
young adult sort of stuff, and this focuses on characters
that are in that next phase of life and the
complications and the nuance that happens in amongst those storylines.
So I really liked it for that reason. You've seen it,
did you?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yes? Now, I really liked it, And I also love that, like,
Tina Fey has just been off our screens for so long,
and she obviously does a lot of creating and producing
behind the scene, but it's the first time she's come
back as a lead actor in a project like this. Like,
I loved her in the show, but I also loved
watching her do the press rounds before it because she said,
the day you're allowed to like post reviews, she jumped online.
(10:19):
She was looking at the reviews and the top most
like comment on a review was from a woman called Ronda,
being like, Tina Fey is the worst actress in the world,
and she was like a U back in the biz,
which I loved for her. Love that A question, though,
if you're a really big fan, what did you think
of the fact that it's coming back for another season
because I found that quite jarring. I thought it felt
like a one and done show.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Yeah, so I hold the unpopular opinion that most television
shows should end after one season.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Okay, you and I do disagree on that.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Mostly I know it is a hill that I'll die
on and we don't have time to go, and all
the other examples.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
This was a one and done for me. Well, that's
why I thought it was jarring, because this is one
of the rat instances where I agree with you because
usually if I love a show, I need ten seasons
minimum and episodes old school TV, that's what I want.
But this one, I'm like, oh, that felt quite self contained.
But it is coming up pro second season, so we'll
see and then I'm asly gonna watch it because Clemen Domingo,
(11:12):
but he was the standout for me. Obviously that man
should be in every single TV show. Well, speaking of
men that feel like they're in a lot of different
TV shows, I mean, this guy's kind of made a
bit of a comeback. I want to talk about The
Pit that's on Max, which has been a huge TV
show that's come out in the second half of this year.
So it's a medical procedural drama, which I try sometimes
not to watch because I am a hypochondriact. I've had
(11:34):
to ban myself from watching Gray's Anatomy. This is a
surprise take from you, No I know. Well, other thing
is like I feel like I'm like I should say
this for the people, because like it is arguably one
of the best new TV shows of the year, but
it does make me feel like I'm close to death
as I watch it. So these are the sacrifices I
make for the spillers. So what's interesting about this is
that it's created by a Scott Gemmel and its stars
(11:54):
Noah Wiley. And Gammel was actually one of the big
people who created Er, that huge medical show that was
on decades ago now and Noah Whiley who's one of
the stars of Ar. So like in the original it
was like George Clooney at the start of his career
and Noel Wiley as the two leads of that show.
People are obsessed with them. They played doctors on Friends
like that was an injury because it was such a
(12:16):
big thing. And so in this it tracks the story
of what's happening in an ear and it does that
thing that twenty four did is that it covers fifteen
hours of an er shift, but every hour in their
shift is an hour of the TV show. So it's
super fast paced, super intense. Noel Wiley's back playing a doctor,
but like in ar he was a very young doctor
(12:39):
just starting his career, and in this he's like moreo,
a kind of seasoned expert.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Okay, my question for you, Laurie is I loved Gray's
Anatomy for like maybe the first twelve seasons, but then
it got stuck in that thing of it's a rinse
repeat right, like you go in, there's a medical issue,
let's sold it.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Okay, move on to the next episode. Does the pit
fall victim to that or have they been able to
negate to an extent. It'll be interesting to see what
happens with the next few seasons because right now, like
it feels so fresh, because you're getting to know these
characters and all the different doctors, and because it's so
fast paced, like every minute you're watching it is a
minute in their lives, and they're bringing in all these
different cases. And because it's the emergency room, it's very
(13:19):
kind of like triage life or death, getting people in quickly,
so it kind of I think needs a second season
to see if it's gonna wear off. But right now,
it like weirdly feels very fresh in medical shows feel
done to death, and it's not all about like doctors
hooking up in on kroom prosms and stuff. Yeah, which,
to be fair, is the only reason I want to watch.
Goes out to me, like I want to see people dying.
(13:40):
I just want to know about people hooking up and
on call rooms, which apparently doesn't happen that much, my
sister tells me. But interesting fact about this is like,
and I kind of haven't helped the situation because I
just said ER about five times. Yeah. But the widow
of the other creator of ER is suing the show
because she says like it's damaging the legacy of ER
and a blatant ripoff. She was like, basically, and I'm
(14:02):
paraphrasing all her legal documents here, but basically she's saying,
Noah Wiley was a star of ER and he played
a doctor, and he's playing a doctor here with the
other people who worked on R. So she's like, you've
basically taken AR and revamped it into this knockoff show
that's capitalizing on her dead husband's legacy, and NOELH. Wiley
has put out a statement saying he's really saddened that
(14:22):
this is happening. But yeah, they are getting sued by EAR.
So that's a lot to see what happens there.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
I think do people not yet know that no idea
is original anymore?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
I know, No, it's I think it's the fact that
she feels that they're really capitalizing because they keep saying
like if you love DR, but not that their official
marketing says that, but like the vibe online is like
if you love d R, this is EAR in a
different way. Okay, so one season of that this year
so far. Yes, I fear that I'm about to.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Lose you with Oh okay, next recommendation again from Netflix.
This is a docu series called Power Moves based on
that name.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
What do you think it's about? Okay, I'm intrigued. I'm
not completely turned off. Power Moves debts well, bless you
a little corporate esponage? What something else? I would wrestling?
I would have watched the shit out of that. You
peached my three interests. Okay.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Power Moves is a Netflix docu series that follows NBA
legends Shaquille O'Neil and Alan Iverson as they lead Rebox
comeback from the brand's Boston headquarters. Does anything from that
sentence appeal to you?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I mean, look, I've seen air maybe Michael Jordan's shoes,
so I'm kind of invested. I don't know if NBA,
which is basketball well done and shoes is really like
my two points of interest. Okay, I guess it's about
teaching you things. I'm probably not gonna watch this one
out there, But do you know who Shaquille O'Neil is. Yeah,
(15:48):
he's a really famous basketball player, right, but that's half
the struggle. Yeah, do you know who the other guy was? No, Okay, couldn't.
I don't know that man, And to be honest, don't
ask many four questions about Shaquille O'Neill. I just know
that he was a basketball player. He is really super tall,
which the fact that he's a basketball player isn't And
he's going to do media stuff, right, Yeah, well done, Laura.
(16:10):
That's probably how I know. Yes, he's a media and
basketball commentator. Okay.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
So basically, Rebook were one of the leading shoes in
the NBA. So lots of basketball players would wear them.
They had lots of sponsorship deals with players. They dropped
and fell from obscurity.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Shaq is back.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
He's now the president of Rebok Basketball and it's his task,
along with the vice president, Alan Iverson. They're both big
basketball players, to relaunch the Rebok basketball shoe brand. If
that doesn't sound like something you're into, that's totally fine.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Laura is not gonna watch it, but maybe you will.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
If you liked that film by Ben Affleck Air, which
was about making the Air Jordan.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
This is like that but real, Okay, that's real. Well
it was ATFLIC. Wasn't involved, and I'm telling you one
hundred percent, Ben Affleck was not involved. He was like,
I'm rich, I love Air Jordan's let me make a
movie about it. This is real.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
What you get at the crux of this is a
massive marketing point. Absolutely, I have the shoes in my
cart to ches now. But you actually get to see
this side of Shack that we've known about for a
long time, but it is on full display where he
is just this giant and I literally do mean giant dork.
He is goofy, he is silly, he is the epitome
of a gentle giant but thrown into this like very
(17:24):
corporate world of like how to make shoes and how
to be a professional you know, sport brand, but with
the side of Shack and the side of Alan Iverson. Okay, look,
I'm not against it. I respect it. I just don't
know if it's for me, but I respect I respect it.
Thank you. I feel about a lot of other shows
(17:45):
have time to go into exactly exactly the other show
I wanted to mention. I feel like this has just
been such a cultural moment that has lasted for a
very long time since it first aired, which is Adolescents
on Netflix. So that's the British psychological series that centered
on a thirteen year old boy who was arrested after
a murder of a girl in his school. And there
(18:06):
was so many huge takeaways from this show. One is
that it was one of those shows that did just
usually with Netflix you can kind of predict what are
going to be these really big talking points and moments,
and like we get to watch them beforehand before they premiere,
and we have these big content plans, and even Netflix
I think was shocked of how quickly this took off
from when they just dropped it onto the platform. There
(18:27):
were so many things at the making of it, in
terms of how they source the cast, and also the
fact that it was all each episode shot in one
continuous movement, which is like performing a live stage play
perfectly in every take. Like it's masterful camera work.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
The only other example that I know of that in
my mind that pulled that off incredibly was that film Birdman. Yes, yes,
I can't even imagine what it is like to film
something like that, let alone be on the other side
of the camera and to be performing. Yeah, I was
reading when they were making Adolescents, they would start at like,
you know, the crack of dawn. Do they one full,
massive sweeping take and they get one more crack at
(19:03):
it up before some doown.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
That is a lot of pressure to kind of get
it pitch perfect in all of those moments. It was
a difficult watch sometimes, but just the cultural conversations it started.
We had so many people like writing into us and
writing articles and saying that like they either watched it
with their kids or they went into their kids afterwards
to talk to about it. It just launched all these
conversations and yeah, just like one of those pieces of
(19:25):
TV that I feel like it really stays with you
after you've watched it. I think you're so right.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
This stirred up so many conversations and really raised this
question that maybe also spread a bit of panic amongst
young parents and people who are maybe thinking about becoming parents,
which we tried to answer on the Quickie as well,
like what is the answer to the question that adolescence poses?
But it turns out that it's not all doom and
gloom like there is apparently some you know, hope for
(19:50):
the younger generation that it is good to hear. I
think that, like, you know, it's so easy to say
this is one of those shows that will sweep award
season and.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
It will be given all of the acclaim and victory.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
But I do think, like rightfully so that one take
thing we said was really hard to do, and it's
even harder to do when it's something of such severe,
like serious content. So props to the whole people that
were involved in that.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
And if you haven't watched it because you were turned
off by I guess just like the very brutal themes
in it, I'd say still go back and watch it.
Because you kind of get swept away in the story.
It's worth the anxiety. Of course, it's only four parts
as well, so yeah, you don't have to commit, you know,
nice little Saturday night binge. Sure, I'm not sure who's
watching that on a Saturday night.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
I don't do that, absolutely, Okay, change your pace here
and heading across to Disney Plus for a.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Show and a man who I love. I think you
do as well, Laura Tucci in Italy. Oh yeah, hot
and also culturally important, but yeah important. It's a lot
of my identity in there. But Stanley Tucci is the
name thing.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Whoa that is delicious? Oh man, you stomach? Wow, Now
I'm I'm more hungry.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I'm Stanley Tucci.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
And I believe that's the best way to understand what
makes a country and it's people unique is through their food. Okay, manjamo,
And this is true nowhere more than Italy.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah is a secret.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Oh really, because it's going to go on television and
then where even the shape of your pasta and the
sauce you serve it with. I love that differentiates the
character and history of each region sharply from the next.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I just smell that.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
It is amazing. You have sustained this culture for thousands
of years.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Now.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
I hope that you'll forgive me because this technically does
not break the rules.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Oh rely, and this is going to happen.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
So Tucci in Italy not to be confused with Stanley
Tucci searching for Italy. Completely different shows. They were on
different networks.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Hey, that one there was from CNN in ed and
twenty twenty one and twenty two.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
This is Tucci in Italy. It's a nat GEO production
which we get to watch via Disney Plus. Is the
premise pretty much the same, where Stanley Tucci is just
being adorable and traversing Italy and eating all the food
and engaging with the locals and.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
All the different regions. Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Am I still gonna make a case that you should
watch it because it came out this year.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Absolutely, That's all I want from that man. Rape. I
just want him to go through Italy and I want
him to roll up his shirt sleeves and show off
his little buff tad and I want him to explain
to me the different flavors of wine and the cheese
and why I should have a particular sandwich and why
should get wine from particular places. All I want from
that man, Well, that's all you get from exactly. Well,
that and for him to be in The Devil wes
pritus equal.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
There's two things I want from that man, and he's
delivered one well interestingly. So the reason that I knew
about this show before any marketing kicked me is because
he talked about it literally NonStop.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I reckon every chapter. There was a mention of making
this show in his latest book, What I Ate In
One Year. Yeah, But in his memoir that came out
a couple of years ago, he spoke so fondly of
working with Meryl Streep and like they have this beautiful relationship.
And so I'm like, if he's not in The Devil
was prior to with Meryl Stree, Yeah, I will be devastated. Well,
he's married to Emily Blunt's sister as well. Yes, they met.
(23:13):
I'll just become a deaf worst protetect, which if you
don't know the law buckling, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
No.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Well, he even Emily bomb DeVos prior and she's like,
you love my sister introduced them and now they're married
with children.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Yeah, and he speaks so lovingly of his wife in
the city. Just that whole family dynamic is fantastic. But yes,
Tucci in Italy, it does what it says in the box.
It is a box worth opening. I think it's like
six episodes in Disney Pluss. Oh my god, so lovely. Well,
I'm going to keep us on Disney Plus.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
But take us to a very different section, Okay, which
is the TV show Dying for Sex. Okay, this TV show,
I wonder what it's about. Yeah, I mean well buckling
because it doesn't exactly do what it says in the
teen in a way. So this show has completely stayed
with me. And it's based on a true story. So
it's based on the story of Molly Ktran who was
(23:57):
an American podcaster. She lived in LA and after she
was diagnosed with terminal cancer, she decided to blow up
her life. She separated from her husband and she wanted
this kind of odyssey to discover what she wanted from sex,
from herself, from partners, and she documented it all this
podcast and Michelle Williams plays her in the TV show
and she is incredible. Like I know, this is a
(24:19):
TV show, but also Michelle Williams is due her it's
time Oscar because she's one of those actresses who's been
so incredible and has been nominated for an Oscar so
many times, and it gets that point where they'll just
give it to her for something, just for her career. Yeah,
And I was like, I know, like this is breaking
the rules, but just give her the Oscar for dying
for sex because it is the performance of her career. Wow.
(24:41):
She's so incredible, so funny, so heartbreaking. And Jenny Slat
plays her best friend based on the real woman in
the show. And as much as it's a show about
Michelle Williams's character signing out she has terminal cancer, leaving
her husband who's perfectly lovely, but also going on this
like wild sex odyssey to discover things about herself, mending
her relationship with her a strange mother, it's really about
(25:04):
these two best friends and the way that Jenny Slate's
character is there for her. Like there's such a heartbreaking
scene when Michell Wiams's character is like close to dyeing
and Jenny Slayts's character is supporting her through it all
and they say to her like should we take the
breathing tubout? But she could die, and she's just like,
I don't know, Like I haven't slept in days, I
haven't showered in weeks. I'm watching my best friend die.
(25:25):
I'm wearing toilet paper for underwear, and you want me
to decide what to do. And so you have those moments,
but then you're also funny moments where she's like reenacting
movie scenes in the hotel room, and also you have
all these like crazy sex scenes as she discovered what
she likes. And I also think, like death is so uncomfortable,
Like I can't stand TV shows and movies that death
I find a way too confronting. I would just love
(25:45):
to pretend that doesn't happen, but the show makes you
confront it in such an interesting way. Like there's a
scene where one are the nurses who's looking after it,
comes in and she gives this speech that's really stayed
with me, where she talks about the fact like your
body knows how to live, but your body knows how
to die. Isn't that amazing? Like your body, She's like,
you don't have to worry when she goes into palliative care,
she youd have to worry. Your body knows how to die.
(26:07):
It's going to do this, and then it's going to
do this, and it's going to do this, and then
you're going to go into a euphoria and you're going
to feel so comfortable because your body is preparing and
like you're watching like Michelle Williams react to that, but
I'm also just watching it as if you were being like,
holy hell, that's amazing, So like dying for sex so good,
Like everyone should watch it, like you'll sob but it's
so worth it. I think that's a really interesting point
(26:30):
about how we approach death in pop culture and television
just in our everyday lives as well, because like, yeah,
sure it's inevitable, but whenever people try to portray that
in television and film, it usually so often misses the
mark where they go too hard with the hand and
the comedy, or they go a too sincere. And this
feels like it strikes a really nice balance between you
two exactly, and the fact that it's also based on
(26:51):
a true story, and like you should definitely like watch
the show and then listen to the podcast because they
really go together very well. Okay, I'm back on my
sport ber Okay, oh wow, that another sports show came
out this year. Laura.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
It's very very rare that I get to come on
this podcast, so when I do, I will abuse that Powell. Okay,
you've seen this though, I'm sure that you have a
take on it. It's from NETFLIXX.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
It's running point. I work in a family business, the
greatest basketball franchise.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
In the history of the game, the Los Angeles Waves,
and this is the story of the fucked up family
that runs.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Tila, I'm making you the president of the Waves.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
When I was a little girl, Daddy never believed in me,
and I started to doubt myself.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I need you to stop because I don't care about
any of that shit. You were the president of the Waves.
Its shocking were on the half of all women. Don't
ever make a mistake. It looks bad for all of us.
We're a family, sys we got your back no matter
what people say.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
What are they saying, just the fact that you're a
nepple baby and you don't know what you're doing, but
you're old, so it's like you're kind of you're like
a nepple chrome.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Oh my god, don't go on red it unless you
want to kill yourself.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
You are the smartest Lord, and I know, I know
that's not a high bar.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Now, we're a family brand. You Ness and Sandy don't represent.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
For a value.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, maybe there's a couple of pictures of my dad
is sadamastein, but we are good people. When I die, sock,
I want to know what you're going to do to
stop the sock. I know the record doesn't show it,
but this is a winning last year and I have
a team to run. So if you'll excuse me, wait,
this is my office. You get a Yeah, I really
liked Wanting Point. I understand the criticism though. Okay, guys,
(28:29):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Okay, So if you don't know Running Point Netflix comedy series.
It was created by Mindy Kaling, who we love. It
stars Kate Hudson as Isla Gordon, who unexpectedly like becomes
the president of the Los Angeles Waves.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Which is a basketball team.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
I'm in my basketball villain error, but basically she becomes
the president. She's got a couple of brothers who also
work at the family company, and they're all kind of
annoyed that she's the president. She was the party girl,
she was the black sheep, a little bit of the
family and now she's sort of trumped them all into
this high ranking role and they're conspiring against her.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Nobody thinks she can do this job. She's out to
prove them all wrong. The best friend slash assistant is
played by Brenda Song, which I know we've already talked
about this, but like, how nice is it to see
Brenda's song that greens That is the best part of
that show for being Like, there's other bits I liked,
but it is the best role that's been written for Brenda,
and she just nails And I hope she gets all
the award nominations for that role in the comedy genre. Yeah,
(29:25):
I'm like pushing for her and Kieran Coulkin. I'm pushing
for her and Macaulay Culkin, but like I would also
be okay if it was Kieran Culkin to like play
a couple in The White Lotus season four. That needs
to happen. Yeah, she needs to be on the White Lotus.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
I like this show because, like we said, Brenda Song's great,
Kate Hudson's good.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
But I also love that there's like.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
A bunch of sort of subplots going on while the
main thing is like her trying to keep the company
the family business, which is a bloody basketball franchise, while
she's trying to keep it all afloat, like there's a
secret extra brother nobody knows about he and I love
that the brothers that we do know about are all very.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Flawed, bad individuals in their own ways. What did you think, because,
like you said, there was a lot of criticism when
this came it was I think there was just so
much hype for it. One is that Mindy Kaling just
makes shows that people feel so strongly about, from the
MINDI Project and all these other TV projects she's done.
It was the first time Kate Hudson had been in
a TV show and like played a role like this,
(30:22):
and so the height from it was huge. Netflix really
put it up as their big comedy of the year,
and I really loved it. But I feel like it
did take a few episodes to find its feet, and
I think it's because the first episode is just like,
it's like, plot, plot, plot, plot much almost Yeah, it
kind of felt like lazy storytelling, but I almost think
they just wanted to pull you into the world really quickly.
(30:43):
But a lot of people, I know, I just watched the
first episode and turned off, which I've been yelling at
people about because it's like, this is Isla Gordon, she
does this, and this is her brother and he does this,
and this is what their dad. I hate.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Yeah, I know people probably either don't have an opinion
of this will feel very strongly.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
I hate when shows like stop freeze frame and then
like scribble on the screen.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
And that's what they do through the fall. They dost episode.
They do that so much because there's like so much
to establish it.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
But I agree, like you have to persevere through the
first episode and then it ends and it's really like
it's not like a huge twist, but it's an interesting twist.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
It is, and I thought like especially it's one on
like it had a lot of heart as well as
being like quite funny. And Kate Hudson just knows how
to carry something that she can carry a movie, she
can carry a TV show. I'm really excited it's coming
back for a second season. Kate Hudson's never played a
character twice because she doesn't do sequels. This is the
first time she gets to revisit a character, and I
find that with Mindy Kayling's writing, it is perfect always
(31:35):
I'm such a fair girl. But I also find that
as shows go along, she only gets better. So I
for like season two, it's gonna be where it's up. Yeah,
it'll hit it strid, I hope. Okay, the other TV show.
And I've been obsessed with this and I feel like
the longer it goes on, more people have mean too,
which is the studio on Apple TV. Plus you've ever
heard so no, but I've heard so much about that.
I think you'd really like I love Seth Rogen. Yes, well,
(31:58):
then you're gonna love this because he stars in it
and he created he was involved in that big Sony
email leak many many years ago, which if you're not
a cross guy, don't worry. We did a whole episode
on it. It's my favorite celebrity Hollywood scandal really when well,
there's so many, but this is so the fact that
all of the emails sent by a list stars and
(32:19):
studio heads were all made public and you saw what
huge celebrities like Channing Tatum and Seth Rogan stuff were saying,
but also what studio heads were saying about Angelina and
Jolly behind her back.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Like I know, it was wrapped up in terrorism that's
really bad. But the juicy Hollywood gossip that was leaked
every day for a month paralleled so Seth Brogan because
his movie at the time was involved in the Studio
League and so he kind of looked at all of
that and use that to make the studio. So the
Studio is kind of like a satirical comedy, which is
(32:52):
about a Seth Rogan who gets made the head of
this very embattled Hollywood studio and he's has to turn
it around. And the cast is incredible. It's Catherine O'Hara,
like Baron Holtz, Chase, Sue Wonders, Catherine Hahn, They're all incredible,
and it's got all these like wild story is about
like the inner workings of this Hollywood studio. But what's
really great is they have all these big stars come
(33:13):
in and play caricatures of themselves.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yeah, it works so well. It's kind of like he's
on a few movies where he has people play themselves.
It's always works so well. But like Olivia Wilde comes
in and plays like a caricature of myself and she's
so good. Zach Efron does it, He's really fine. I
love this. Jean Smart does it. Charlie's Throne. I think
my favorite one though, was Martin's called Saz playing himself
away because he just like what would get it? I know,
like as if he would do that, and he's so good.
(33:39):
Loki kind of a bastard, right, yeah, but he comes
in and just plays like this wild caricature of himself
and I'm sure it's actually kind of what he's like,
but like that is just such a wild ride. So
it's already been renewed for a second season, and you
don't have to be super interested in like the inner
workings of Hollywood to watch it. You can just watch
it as a comedy. It doesn't even matter if you
don't know who half these people are who are playing themselves,
(34:01):
and some of the best people are playing fictionalized characters.
So love it. Yeah, so good. The other one I
want to mention, just to finish us off, is a
show that came out this year called The Last Anniversary
that came out on Binge. So it's based on a
Leanne Moriarty novel and there's so many reasons to love it.
I think, like usually when a TV show comes out
that's based on a book, I've always read the book. First,
I'm such a big reader, but this is the one
(34:23):
Leanne Moriarty book I hadn't read, so I got to
experience the unfolding of this chastory for the first time.
So Teresa Palmer is the lead, and she plays this
woman called Sophie. And this is where things got a
bit tense when I was at the premiere watching it,
because watching it in this beautiful theater. And Sophie is
a woman living in Sydney who writes for a women's
media publication. She's in her late thirties. She's going on
(34:46):
a series of bad dates and when she's ever like
stressed out about life, love or anything, she gets this incredible,
like intense flush through her neck and cheeks. How you
Oh no, I'm like I was watching it and I
literally like, did you know this when you interviewed Teresa Palmer? Yeah,
because okay, yeah, I interviewed her after the premiere and
(35:06):
I so in case you don't know me, that's me, Like,
that's me to a tea, including the intense flush, the
same age and even when she was like she's talking
to her ed about stories and she was like, oh yeah,
just do this and do that and like just the
way she talks about working in the women's media. I'm like,
this is the bad dates everything, Like it's just so
I feel like attacked and I also feel seen. Yeah,
(35:28):
so that's the only part that Sophie and I are
the same person. Because after that, this man that she
had dated years and years and years ago, who's a
bit of a jerk, lets her know that his grandmother
has passed away and left Sophie, his ex girlfriend of
many years, her house on this tiny little island off
the coast of New South Wales called Scriplgum Island and
all the family members live there and there's a mystery
(35:50):
attached to the island. So this is where it's like
a love story of Sophie, like moving to the island,
living in this house and trying to discover why it
was left to her. And one of the reasons she
decides to go is at the end of the letter
it says, I think you'll find love here. There's a
man that you should meet. So she goes there and
she meets all these different and every time she meets
a man, including a man who she used to date
(36:10):
who was married to her ex boyfriend's cousin. It's the
whole thing. Oh, it's a whole living on the island. Yeah,
So as much as it's about Sophie, like meeting all
these different men, some of them are great, some of
them that shares wild sex with, some of them are awful.
It's like also this mystery because the island Scribblely Gum
is known for this mystery where a couple moved to
the island and then they disappeared and a baby was
(36:32):
left and the baby is like a now and a
grown up woman living on the island. So then Sophie,
who's a journalist, goes back and tries to solve the
Mystery's yeah, I just really loved it. I found out
such as so I went to the premiere and I
watched it and I interviewed treesa Palmer and that was amazing.
But then every week, and I've got a lot of
TV to watch, so I don't watch stuff unless I
have to. But then every week I turned on Binge
(36:53):
to watch the next episode because I loved the weekly drop,
and I just found like a personal It's got all
these incredible like female characters like Daniel McDonald's in it
as well. But it's really about all these women in
this unconventional family living on this island, solving the mystery,
the love story. But I also just love when they're
just like cooking in the kitchen and making cakes and
drinking wine. I know, I just really loved it, Like
I know keeps people have watched it and loved it,
(37:14):
but I just feel like more people need to watch it.
I'm sold. Yeah, I think you would really love it.
Don't if you haven't read the book, don't google the ending. Okay,
when you find out the mystery of the baby and
how she was left there and how it's like intertwined
with the family, you'll be like, wow, I have.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
So many like theories running through my head, having not
watched or know any of the characters names Keayla, bring
us home one more very quick.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Okay, we've done it recently, but in case anyone hasn't
watched it adults on Disney Plus. Yes, and I'm not
saying this, guys, one of the funniest shows I have
ever seen, because it's so rare that I would sit
in my apartment alone and watch a TV show and
be hysterically laughing out loud. And when Emily Vernon and
I did this on Weekend Watch. We don't look at
any other reviews first, so we watch a show, we
(37:56):
give out honest review and usually we're like fairly with
other people. This was like quite badly reviewed, and really
I would not normally say this about my colleagues, but
they're wrong. I just don't think they were watching it.
So so it's about a group of four twenty somethings
who are living in New York, like you know, out
in the world for the first time, in a sharehouse
together and it just tracks their life. There's eight episodes.
(38:17):
They should have been longer. They're like twenty two minutes.
That wasn't enough for me. I needed more. Like Charlie
Cox is in it. He's so funny. Julia Fox does
is an episode playing herself. Fantastic, so good. There's so
many laugh out loud moments, so many kind of like
wild moments, Like it starts with a character masturbating on
a train because a man's doing it. She's trying to
stand up for women's rights and like you know and
(38:39):
diggerate quality and stuff. But it is just really funny.
So I'm just saying, like, don't trust the reviews unless
it's Yeah, don't trust all the reviews. But Adults is
on Disney Plus right now. It's eight episodes or are
about twenty minutes each. It just felt so fresh and
funny and I just really loved it. What a way
to end public pleasure on a train. Yeah, It's what
(39:01):
all TV shows should have, obviously, Laura Rodnett, thank you
for having me back. Thank you for coming on and
talking about basketball. I'm sure you did well. Thank you
so much to Taylor for joining us, and thank you
all for listening to the Spill. And there are so
many other great summer listeners via the link in our
show notes, with some incredible episodes covering everything from true
(39:21):
crime to beauty to powerful interviews. And we have an
absolutely hilarious new Spill episode dropping on Friday, where Emily
and I debate which of our favorite romcom couples would
have broken up in real life, and of course we
very much disagree. We're back with daily shows from Monday.
Have a wonderful New Year's bye. Mamma Mia acknowledges the
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