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August 14, 2024 18 mins

It's Obama's BRAT summer and we're just living in it. We breakdown the cultural phenomenon that the former president has created with his annual summer recommendations.

And, from Freakier Friday to a brand new Lion King movie... We're talking about all the moments you missed from the D23 summit.

Plus, is Disney ready to forgive some of its fallen stars? This is the Hannah Montana resurgence we all deserve.

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders
that this podcast is recorded on from Mama Mia. Welcome
to the Spill your daily pop culture fixed.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
I mem vernon now Mash London, who.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
You were back together? We actually got a message. I
got a little DM with them going. You and Ash
are so funny together. Stop it.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Well, you know you and me were the same age,
so we just love all the same theme.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Age and the same living in the same stage.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
But it's fine.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
We have a fun show today because we're talking about
everything Disney. We're talking about all the new Disney movie
releases that were announced at the d twenty three summit.
Plus we're also going to be diving into Disney and
whether the entire company is ready to forgive some of
its falling stars.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Walt himself is going to come back from the dead
holding one arm up and then less smileys on her
shoulders and gate it is finished.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Jesus. Oh, that's exactly what I want. That's exactly what
I want them to do. But first, Ash, you have
some news from a former president.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Oh my gosh, she says, one of my favorite things
that Obama does every year because he is a bad bitch.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
So I'm telling he'd love to be described as a
bad bitch.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
I would I could have got a third term if
you've got me on the campaign trip just walking out Google.
But was a bad bitch, so old me. Barak does
this every year. He puts out his summer playlists. He
also does books and films, so it's like he's all
over it. He should be hosting the spill, he should
be contract. Here's the thing, though, you'd think, oh, you know,
guy in his fifties politician or maybe sixties now, he's

(01:50):
not gonna have great taste in music. The man has
elite taste in music, Like it's unbelievable. As a music
broadcaster whose job it was to curate playlists for the radio,
I would look to these playlists back, oh I've never
heard that, and then I would discover new music. So
he's put his summer playlist and I know you've seen it.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
I've seen you surprised by any inclusions.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
I I am so embarrassed. So what he does, he's like,
he puts together a list and he just uploads him
on his Instagram, and that's like his little just look.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
I mean, he just writes it all dound.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, it's like it's like it's like his version of
a newsletter exactly. I did see the music playlist. I
am so embarrassed that I don't know majority of the songs.
The only songs I did know were like songs that
like my dad listens to.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
That makes sense, doesn't they given his age. But yeah,
there's like.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
Norah Jones, like Nick Drake, like older Ratas, like some
Bob Dylan. But then you've got Charlie XCX three six
five and she like talks about having a line of coke,
Like all right, go off, Barack.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Like that surprised me.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
He's in tune with the girls. He knows it's a
brat summer. It's a brat freaking summer. And that's why
I love this guy. Like I don't want to believe
that an intern did it for him. I just know
I know in the deepest parts of my soul that
Sasha and Malia are working over time to help them
with these playlists.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
No one wants their dad to embarrass them, so I
feel like it's been a bit of a collaboration. Maybe
that's like, what about this what about this, And he's
the genuinely liked the songs and then included them, but
like even the older songs are like cool, man, the
guy is so cool.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
He also does like a book list of everything he's
been reading in the summer, and then he posted on
Instagram on his Instagram stories and was like, I'm always
looking for new books, so let me know. So I
did DM him.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
What did you tell him to read?

Speaker 2 (03:42):
He told him. I said, wait, let me actually.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Let me guess angest songs and perfect.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Oh no, but I should suggest I should have. I said, Hi,
mister Obama, I really, I really enjoyed everything I know
about Love by Dolly Allison. Ask your daughters about it
in brackets they'll know. We'd love to know your thoughts.
So I've opened it up for him to continue the conversation,
which he's asked.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
So I'm just read Good Material, her latest book.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
I did read good Material?

Speaker 1 (04:09):
What do you think? Finished? D and left it?

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Really I thought that that's actually my favorite book of hers.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
What?

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah, I love.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
That's why I love books.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Man, Like you just don't know what you're gonna get. No, no,
but your gongy. This is now a book podcast.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
I would love it to be.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
So the D twenty three summit took place a few
days ago, and I didn't actually know what that meant.
It's neither.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
I didn't know they had a summit, man, But now
it makes sense that would have a So I thought.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
It was like some weird like Star Wars terminology about
like like.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
I don't know if you saw on the news the
other day. I actually put the physical news on, like
the channels. I think it was gonna do with the Olympics.
There was a crossover and it had in some way
in a westfield in Melbourne, there was a Disney pop
up and people had come from all over Australia to
get is like collectible Disney cards. So I think it
was all part of the same Disney situation. They were
just like ral and everyone else.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, Disney adults are a big, big, big thing.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah. Power, you guys, all power.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
So the D twenty three is a massive convention that
takes place. It's actually made by the Official Fan Club
of Disney. Oh really, which is insane. And now it's
become this big thing where Disney use it as a
way of like showing what they have coming up. It's
also like a big awards ceremony. They have massive celebrities
come in, like ex Disney celebrities, new celebrities that are

(05:31):
coming into Disney. It's just like a big convention, similar
to how comic Con is and how Marvel uses comic
Con to like showcase what they have coming up. That's
kind of what D twenty three is. The latest one
took place a few days ago and some of the
big announcements are get ready for this. Everyone who's into Disney,
You're gonna die. I remember that.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
I'm a mother of a toddler, so I probably will
be very excited about whatever.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
I have a twenty eight year old woman who's also
the same page. So some films that are coming up
is Toy Story five.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
I think we can do with that another Toy Story
just quietly. But they all kind of merge into one
big film. For me after the first one, you're just
like Frozen three put it in my veins. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
See, I wasn't part of the Frozen some gang like.
I had to watch it as an adult, and I
didn't really get a bit. I guess I understand the Lord.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Every song you just you could start playing that field.
But any point within the ninety minutes, and I would
be able to within a second on the dialogue. On
the songs, it's my son, who's now over frozen frozen
for a good seven months. He wouldn't walk around. He
would only gallop around and say that he was writing

(06:35):
s fen.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
It was so swe beautiful.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
And Cobblestone three it's finn.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
I like the oh Laft number one.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, classic and Incredibles three, which I am so excited about.
I'm a big Incredibles girl.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Love the Incredibles. That's fun, that's fine. Good on them,
three big ones making cash. And then there's Avatar as well.
And I did some deep diving into Avatar because I
was like, I feel like a lot of money has
been made on Avatar, and I was not wrong. So
Avatar one, which was like forever Ago, was the highest
grossing film of all time. Yeah, I'm imagining that Titanic

(07:10):
was one before that. Also James Cameron, and then James
Cameron did Avatar, and then Avatar two was the third
highest grossing film of all time. He's making bank. This
is just a director.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
He made over three hundred million dollars from the first
film alone.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
That's ridiculous. That is too much money.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
I believe it's a four or five movie deal that's happening.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Interesting because it's what's called Fire and Ash, right, yes, yes,
and I don't I think.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
I mean, you're in it about me in the fire.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
It's yeah, it's Ash. It's fire and Ash London, Ash London,
ash buckets London.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
I'm just going to be painting myself in blue splashing
around in the water.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
It's crazy how they've announced this third film because there
was a massive gap between the first and second film.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
No, but I think that's just James Cameron's way. I
think he's just a bit like weird like that, Like
it takes a really long time.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
He does a lot of research.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
The films cost like two three, four hundred million dollars
to make, like it's unbelievable. But like on the opening weekend,
I think internationally made a billion dollars in ticket sale, so.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
They get the money back.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
But when there's that much money being thrown around and
that many animators and you know, Kate Windsor had to
learn how to hold her breath underwater for like eight
minutes or something.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Ridiculous. Oh, that takes time.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
It does take time. We're waiting on Kate, We'll wait.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
He saw the footage where she like goes underwater I
have training pool.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Watch it's amazing and she holds her breath for like
Jesus comes up and I don't know if it's eight minutes.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
But I think it's a lot. It's like one of
those big as numbers.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah, Like she ended up becoming a fish.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
She grew gills, she grew kills and scales.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
They also gave a deeper look into the new Linking
movie Mafussa, which shows Mafussa's life before he spoilers.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
All right, you know, I fast forward that scene.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Still, it's so sad. I'm excited for that one because
it also has Blue Ivy in. It's just like Beyonce Real.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
It's not Northwest because we need to see less of
Northwest singing Yes and more of Blue.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Eyes all Blue Ivy. And also lind Manuel Miranda who
did the music, is introducing a new song for that.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
And let's be honest, all of the kids stuff that
lind Manuel has done is amazing, Like Moana.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Hellois, Moana el Kanto canto so good amazing.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
And then we've got Freaky of Friday as well.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
I'm so excited about because Chad Michael Murray, Jamie Lee,
Curtis and Lilo all involved. I watched some of the
press junkets for Freaky Friday.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
How good is Lindsay looking?

Speaker 2 (09:41):
She's like incredible. I remember the last time I heard
about her was when she was actually in Australia judging
the Mass Singer and then she went out and then
she came back and did the Irish wish.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
That movie, oh ten out of ten percent, it's so good.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
And then then I think after watching that movie, I
was like, she's back.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
She back, and I think that Fix actually gave her
like a deal. She's going to do a couple of them.
So she got the money back. The bank accounts haarted growing.
She looks amazing. He's a bit of audio with Jamie
Lee and Lindsay explaining some of the differences, how the
characters have grown full the second vision.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
How is this going to work this time?

Speaker 2 (10:19):
How is it gonna be freakier?

Speaker 4 (10:22):
What a good way to bring up the new title
film Freakier Friday.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
It's freakier, it is freakier. Yeah, there's different kinds of switches.
I'm a mom now right to a teenager. That makes
me a grandma. A freaky scene.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Okay, so are you two switching bodies again?

Speaker 4 (10:38):
Telling you who you's switching with?

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Who?

Speaker 4 (10:40):
But people switch people because it's a body switch comedy.
But it's actually it's freakier, it's funnier, it's much more
emotional because you know there's more at stake. I'm now
a grandma. She's a mom, she has a child. There's marriage,
there's loss, They're all of the things that make this

(11:01):
story so relatable to people.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
I am so freaky excited trying to make it, trying
to make it. I'm so excited for this. I was
a bit too young for the original. It's not even
the original, right, Like the original is a remake, I think.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, So the first.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Film with Linday Lohan and Jamie Lee Curtis, I was
a bit too young, so I watched it when I
was a bit older. Immediately became obsessed and, like everyone else,
had a massive crush on Chad Michael Murray. And the
fact that Who has also.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Been relegated to the depths of Netflix Christmas films.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Some real stinkers Slash.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
I love them so much to put him in my veins,
So I'm glad that he's going to have a big
screen return, and.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Also like it's funny like Josh Hart and at his back.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Again, you're probably a bit too young for him, but
he was a teen heart of around the same time.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
I remember he was just he had a.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Cameo in The Bear and now he's going to be
back on the big screen after kind of leaving Hollywood.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
So I'm loving all the return of these heart throbs.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yes, the introduction of Freakier Friday. Plus also for me,
the Incredibles three. It kind of makes me think about, like,
who are these movies for, because I'm like, these are
for me, And I think Disney's being so clever with
having these massive gaps between the first and like the sequel,
because I watched, for example, The Incredibles when I was

(12:14):
really young. It was like a kid's movie for me.
And then Incredibles too when I went to see it
in cinema, I was an adult with my sister who's
also an adult, and we were just in a sea
of all adults plus like kids.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
It's so cool, and you're right, it's so clever.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
It's and now with like so many more films being
made and less money being made on movie like ticket
salesand stuff with streaming, does he have to be clever
about it?

Speaker 1 (12:36):
They need as many eyeballs as possible.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
And you can tell what their jokes and stuff they use,
like it's not just for kids, like they have like
some sly adult jokes in there. They're being really smart
with like the content in general.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
And it's clever.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
I think it's just Yeah, even all these like Frozen three,
I'm excited to watch now because I know that, like
it's gonna be also.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
For me, Yeah, because I love Frozen too. People like
it's not that good yet it is.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
I was about to say the same thing.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I was like, oh, I don't sing ash and it's
going to be stuck in our hands forever.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
No, oh good.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
After the break, we are talking about a very special
award that Marley Cyrus received at the D twenty three
summit and what it means.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
So we've been talking about the D twenty three, which
I'm assuming is like, does that mean twenty twenty three
and every year it's like D twenty two, D twenty one,
or we just.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Look I was trying to figure this out.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, who knows. It's no Disney issue.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
So we've already talked about the films that they've announced
all that stuff, but also every year they give away
this Disney Legends Awards all sorts of people who have
like contributed to the success and the spirit of Disney.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
So some recent.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Awardees Alan Pompeo, Patrick Dempsey from Greg's Anatomy, Jonathan Groff
Musical Superstar, I Didner Menzell, Christen Bell, Josh Gadd, Chadwig Boseman,
and then James Cameron, Harrison Ford, Jamie Lee Curtis with
this year, as well as alcohol.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Miley Cyrus. It's surprising, m.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Because you know, Miley and Disney for the last couple
of years don't kind of seem to go very well
in the same sent tense.

Speaker 4 (14:11):
I definitely wasn't created and allowed, But if I was,
there must have been a bug in the system which
caused me to malfunction.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Somewhere between the years of twenty thirteen and sixteen.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
She's so cute. You could tell she was genuinely so
happy to receive that award. She was so emotional, and
I'm like, this is a summit that I've not even
heard of before today, and she is so proud to
be receiving this, like, what is it, legendary dis yinder Ward,
yinder Ward.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
And I think I love the fact that she just
addressed the elephant in the room, which was like, yeah,
twenty thirteen, which is when she was working on stage
with Robin Thick. You know, she was trying really hard
to kind of distance herself from that like little girl
Disney kind of image, But that doesn't change the fact
that it kind of really set her up for life.
But do just want to say that Miley still be

(15:02):
proud of that era. Wrecking Ball was one of the
greatest pop songs.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
The Bangers era was amazing.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah, bangers was literally said what it was on the packet.
It was full of bangers.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
So Miley, we loved twenty thirteen, Mile, But I think
it's interesting that she brought it up in her speech.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
It's also interesting because looking at the list that you
ran off with, like all the other legends, she seems
like significantly younger than the rest of them.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Well, she started when she was thirteen, like all those
other people probably got started twenties after her, So it
kind of makes sense.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Like if we think about it, she was thirteen when Hannamon.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
She became Hannah Montana, which is, you know, like twenty
years ago, so it's twenty years on. It's also probably
started twenty years ago as well.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
It's scary also the way she started, like it sounds
like my worst nightmare. She if you've watched Ana Moontana,
if you grew up with Hannah Montana like I did.
Like when the show first starts, like the first episode,
you just see clips of her performing at sold out stadiums,
and ever since that day, like even now as an adult,
I always think about, how do they do that? Like

(16:05):
did they have some crazy technology that like.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Maybe I just read to think about it today. She
actually had.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
So she performed as like the supporting act for the
Cheetah Girls when the Cheeta Girls were a big thing.
So the cheater Girls' movies happened, and then they went
touring around like America as actual concerts, and she was
a supporting act. No one knew who she was. That
she just had to do it to the film for
her show and like pretend like go hey and everyone's
going hey, and like imagine doing that to an audience

(16:31):
has no idea who you were. She had to perform
like in front of like people at mauls like shopping centers.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Oh my god, I didn't put on free concerts and
like forced people to cove just to get some footage.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
And I just always think about it, like, imagine that
was me thirteen years old at like Parramatta Westfield.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
My dream is a thirteen year old I would have
loved that form in front of like these moms and
dads trying to buy their groceries.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yes, get it all.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
I suppose she did have like her dad's billy race ye,
and yet he wasn't like the biggest.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Star ever, but you know he was.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
He was established, So I get the sense that she
was probably used to kind of show bis et cetera,
et cetera.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
But look, thirteen years old.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
I just if I had any sense of pressure at thirteen,
and any sense of like my life being recorded and
then brought up to like haunt me twenty years later,
like oh yeah, like no, thank you.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
It's also really taling with both her and Lindsay Lohan
being at this D twenty three summit. It feels like
Disney has done a full three sixty on them as
people in a way of like saying that giving them
these big shots like Lindsay introducing Freak of Friday with
legend Jamie Lee Curtis giving Miley the Award, it feels

(17:46):
like a bit of like an insidious way of like
forgiving them for like taint I guess again.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Yeah, like now that their audiences from the first time
old enough and have kids, let's welcome them back into
the fold and try and once again squeeze as much
money as we can out of our little cash cows.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah, and it's working because, like I said, I'm going
to be there watching these movies as well as all
of these kids who going to see it for the
first time.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Totally, and we'll look down at them like you.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
No, you don't know the law behind us, know.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
You are just hopping on a bandwagin Well.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today.
If you want more content from us, you can always
follow us on Instagram. We post there all the time.
I go a bit rogue there. Sorry. In advance, you
can follow us at the Spill Podcast. We will see
you back here in your podcast feed at three pm tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Bye sa
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