November 11, 2024 • 33 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
From mum and mea welcome to the spill your daily
pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodney and I'm Murnham and
on today's show, guys, the gauntlet has been lifted. The
chains have been taken off, because finally, finally, the embargo
for Gladiator two has been lifted, and we're going to
give you out honest review. No spoilers though this is
you know, this is spoiler.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Lie day dreaming about this, I've been dreaming at this moment.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Also, there has been a whole raft of celebrity baby
news this week. But interestingly enough, behind each of these
celebrity announcements or stories, there is bit of drama behind
all of them. I'm not gonna lie and some sweetness
because you know celebrity babies. Well, we're going to get
into the drama, but first, I feel like.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
We've had a bit of a lull in the highly
creative reality TV atmosphere, which is why I've got some
really good news to share because America's Sweethearts Dallas Cowboys
Cheerleaders coming back for a season two.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Thank god, I reckon, We're going to have to do
a really honest on this. Yeah, I pencil in for
three years from now when it comes out.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
We actually I think we should link our first really
honest trivia for season one in the show notes that
was a great time in case you're got because I
think that was one of my favorite ones. But if
you aren't aware of what the hell I'm talking about,
it is a reality show on Netflix. It came out
in June this year, which I felt like was two
years ago. It feels ages, but it only came out
this year, and it followed a cheerleading squad that plays
(01:41):
for the NFL team, the Dallas Cowboys, and it looked
at how these women start from the beginning of their
like trying to audition for this massive role, to like
being cut It's so cutthroat. It's like one of the
probably most cut throat industries I've seen women go through
until they end up being a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader. It's
(02:01):
not really about the cheering in particular, it's more about
the journey these women go through too, and the holy cheerleader.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Sure behind this industry that looks so ridiculous and sexist
and silly from the outside, but there's a much to
be history behind it as well as the fact that
it's also problematic and sexist.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
And the but heartwarming.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Heartwarming because two things at once.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
These women want to be a cheerleader so badly for
this specific team, to the point where they would do
it for free. And half of them are doctors and
half of them have PhDs, and they're like brilliant women
and they're just being judged for like how they look,
and like how they dance, and how high they can
kick and how fast they can kick and how quickly
they can do a jump split. It went absolutely viral,
(02:44):
so it was like in the top ten of Netflix
Top series worldwide for a while, like in the US
was five weeks. In the first four days of it
coming out, it had two point three million views. It
was absolutely brilliant. It went viral on TikTok as you know,
Like I mean, we're Australian, so we knew Thunderstruck was
a great song. But I feel like this really took
Thunderstruck in a whole new life, especially for younger audiences.
(03:08):
It really like encapsulated how something that I feel like,
especially our generation of women, kind of put down I
feel like that's a fair thing to say, like putting
down any type of industry that women are in that
has to do with their physical appearance, and it just
kind of gave it a new light and shows like
the darkness as well as the light of having those
kind of roles.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah. Absolutely, And I think there's a lot of investment
in season two because you do think, like, can you
capture that like lightning in a bottle again of how
you know, addicted everyone was to this series and these stories,
so we didn't know these women, and I think, like,
maybe it won't have the same Oh, look, it probably will,
but I don't know if you'll have the same kind
of awe factor because we kind of know the ropes
a bit now. But what we do have is carry
(03:50):
over characters that I think people will be really invested
in because two really big names from the first season
were Kelly and Charlie, who were going trying to be
like rookies and get into the squad for the first time,
and we followed them very extensively, even like going to
like Kelly's hometown and like seeing that her parents like
stayed together to like so they could afford to like
(04:10):
her dance lessons so that she could be a Dallas
Cowboys cheerleader, which I still find absolutely wild, but I
guess very heartwarming. And then Kelly and Charlie were both
cut at the last minute. And when the announcement of
the News Squad came out this year, do remember in
the office, we treated it like breaking news. We yelped,
everyone was screaming, and everyone was just combing through that
photo just looking for those two faces. And when we
(04:31):
saw they were there, it was a big deal for
us and like for all the fans of the show.
And I think now it'll kind of be like watching
that process back. And I'm sure there's also people from
the last squad who didn't make it onto this one.
There'll be news stories, there'll be new controversies because.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Mad these rookies and stuff. They'll have like massive fan bases.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
And a lot of there's so many women on that
squad who I'm sure have really interesting stories who we
didn't get to see the first time, just because a
lot of the big players this time, like Kelsey and
Victoria and Claire are all didn't return for this season,
so it's.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
A lot of rockett I hope we get a sideshow
rocket endeavors.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Oh, I would like I feel like she it's not
that long till now, so she gets a reality show
of her own, to be honest, because there was so
much drama and fallout from all the interviews she did
after the show aired, with her saying that she hadn't
spoken to Kelly, who's the coach of the team, with
her saying she hadn't talked to the girls and the
team they've been doing appearances without her, and then the
whole drama about her birthday party where on the Netflix
show it looks like none of them turned up and
(05:28):
it's the first time you saw them break this character
of like we're all sisters, because you had like Claire
and Kelsey and all like the main players putting out
statements saying that that wasn't true.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Which I think will be what I'm really interested about
in this next season is like, now these women have
their own power to them, Like the virility of the
first season has given so many of these women like
millions of followers, and they've been on podcasts and they've
been doing interviews and they can honestly hold their own now,
and I think that power dynamic will come into play
(05:59):
in the same d Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Absolutely, Well, I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
So that will be coming out. We definitely will be
talking about it when it is out, and if you
want to listen to our Brilliance review of season one,
we will link that in the show notes. God, well,
it is time. It is time. I am about to
(06:21):
embark on a review for Gladiator two.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
And this is so red hot, guys, we couldn't even
save it for Friday weekend watch. We had the embargo
lifted at one am today. I should have called you
at one am and been like, get on the mic,
even like.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
This is one hundred percent my weekend watch of the week.
But also like with this review today, do not worry.
You don't need to fast forward or anything because I'm
not going to be giving you any plot points. We're
not going to be dissecting the actual film. We will
be next week for our briolely onst review of Gladiator two.
So make sure you watch it now because it's out
right now. Make sure you watch it between now and
(06:53):
next Friday, not this coming on the next one. We're
giving you plenty of time.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, guys, go to the cinema and watch this please, Like,
first of all, not to step on your review, but
it's a good movie. Well, you'll have a fun time.
But also Emily and I there are things, there is
moments from this movie that I think have burned into
my brain for the rest of my life. And even
though we were sitting separately because the crush of people
was too intense, I feel like we were both screaming
and yelling at different times. And so there's parts of
(07:18):
this movie that we need to dissect. But we're going
to do it now brutally honest reviews. So no spoilers here,
but just no, that's coming.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Okay, So I just want to give you a little
kind of outline review of how I felt about, Okay,
this movie. Should we talk about the premiere first?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Sure, I was grateful enough, privileged enough, some might say,
to get my own tickets. And because I'm a kind.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Old they grow up so fast.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Because I'm a kind person, I decided to bring our
video producer Julian with me. It was his first premiere.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
That's really nice of you to take him, because that
man has to edit a lot of our videos and
the things he must hear and the things he must see.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
So we went to Gladiator. There was a group of
us that went together because I'm on the spill. I
was kind of the leader of the group, kind of
like those tall guides that hold up the science.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
So that was me because normally I feel like I
had to take that burden on. You have the height
for it, and I don't need everyone can see me.
But we did get separated because it was so intense,
so we both sat with different groups, so it was
very intense.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
The first mistake I made was I made my group
join the wrong line.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
No rookie error.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
You were in a line and they were like, oh,
We're like I can't really see much from here, and
I'm like, yeah, sorry, and then I realized, oh wait,
when meant to be at the front. Yes, So we
came to the front. Everyone was there. They're like, where
are you guys? So sorry, we got there. I forced
Julian to kind of like find our seats straight away.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
That's what you do. You go in, you get the
good seats, you put your stuff down, you put first
round of drinks down, you go out, you get second
round of drinks. You come back in, you set all
your little drinks up because they're only a little small champagne,
so it's like two set of drinks for the movie
and then you settle in your seat and then you
can do your Instagram and stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Anyway, So that was a whole big thing about the premiere.
We got to watch our social producers we have talked
about live and how she just located it at the premier.
She's okay, I don't want to get into that. If
you want to hear about that, we'll link that episode
in the show no, and we'll.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Link ovideo where you can actually see the moment she
falls over and crushes her shoulder and dislocates.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
The bat check a warning. So she was interviewing Paul Mescal.
We saw Paul Mescal a few times walking in, except
the security guards wanted us to move along, and we're like, fine,
I respect that. We sat down and the cast came out,
who were traveling here for the premiere. They did like
their little speeches, the little q and as, and when
we got into.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
The film, yes, okay, and now we find that everyone's
just like I can just se everyone's screaming at their
phone or their car ready or whatever they're listening to,
being like, get to the review.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
What did you think of the movie? I don't care,
what did you think of moviem So I was talking
to Julian. He says it was a should.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
We get julete in here? Is he going to get
through here?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
He said it was a three act structure. I told
you that, but okay, okay, so you and Julian both
told me that, so I wanted that to be clear.
He was like, I wasn't too sure what happened with
the second act, and I was like, I don't know
what you're talking about. It was a three act structure.
It's a very action gory movie. So if you have
a thing with blood, beheading, cutting limbs off.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
But like, if you've watched Game of Thrones, you'll be fine.
It's a very similar says Glorious.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Game of Throat. Yeah, they don't like hone in on it,
but it's very actioning. It's a lot of angry men yelling.
I wish there were subtitles. There was a lot of
dialogue that I missed.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
You're like, Cao's that guy. It's like it's his dad.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
The plot is the plot of what I would say
is a typical action movie where it starts off understandable
and then they just lose all control and meaning.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Oh really, I actually thought the plot was like quite
an interesting kind of three line. So you start with Paul,
I'm trying to definitely trying to keep you on track.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
He sorry, we started with Paul, who plays Lucius and
he and what's happening right now is like it's a
twelve years after the first Gladiator film where Maximus played
by Russell Crowe, wanted to destroy the Roman Empire. Look,
it didn't work out.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Spoileralers.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
He's now dead. The string belonged to Maximus, no, I
give it to you.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
What is there?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
From people free?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
The Roman Empire is still trying to take over all
the surrounding countries and villages, and they're attacking all these people,
killing everyone and enslaving the strong men to fight as
gladiators for everyone else's entertainment. That's basically what happens to Paul.
So he's living outside of Rome. He hates the Romans.
He's like, I want to kill the Romans. One drive
(11:33):
in life which I wish I had, was to kill
the Romans. I wish I was as passionate about something
as Paul is about killing these Romans. So what happens
is I think he manifested that because then the Romans
come into his village.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yes, and then he kind of becomes out. We won't
spoiled too much, but going to but.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
His village and his like area. They lose that fight
and they imprisoned Paul. I'm going to call them Paul
throughout this whole thing. Okay, I know his name is Lucis,
but Paul. My name changes throughout the movies. The Navy
does change.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Do be careful about that little plot twist.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
His name changes. He gets in prison as a gladiator.
The owner of the Gladiators is Denzel Washington.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Like.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
His whole job is to make money from these men
fighting that are usually slaves and prisoners, and the gladiator's
job is to go into these big, big fights and
if they win the fight, then they can slowly move
up the ranks and then their end goal is to
finally be released as free men.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yes, they arena turned slaves into gladiators and the gladiators
into free men. You have something.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I knew it from the start, did you now? So
from then on you're just watching these men fight each other.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Which is why people go I've seen a lot of
kind of because obviously the full written reviews and like
full podcast reviews like ours were embargoed until today, but
you could give social reactions and top line reactions that
sort of thing. And a lot of people have been
calling it Barbie for men in terms of like giving
them scenes that they might like and like moments to
cheer for it.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
All that Barbie for women, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
But also all the hot men. But a just I
guess like a lot of people might be looking at
and thinking that it's more of a especially because the
way they tried to market it and sell it and
talk about it that it was this very kind of
prestige film and it was amazing, you know, storytelling and
these deep character arcs and like, yes, there's a real
element of that, but at its core, as you were
saying before, this is like an action, popcorn, blockbuster, schmaltzy movie.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
It's great with top top tier actors in it. So
sometimes you got I think you get lulled into this
idea that, oh, I'm watching this really prestige drama and
then when you actually look at the plot twist of
the movie making and some of the cgi scenes, like
oh no, no, this is made for.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Like it's wow, like a Marvel or yeah, you're right,
but there is some political elements. I will give him that.
We have Pedro Pascal, who I think is the best
in this.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
He was amazing, pot so but also layered.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, he's the chief of the Roman army, so you
can just imagine what imagine what he's wearing. I imagine
what he's wearing and how he's fighting. He's a chief,
he can't be stopped. We then also have Joseph Quinn
who we love from Stranger Things, and Fred Heckinger who
we love from White Lotus play the Emperor Brothers. They
were so good, incredible.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
You know how you know that an actor is incredible
at their performance. I hated them. I hated them. So
it was like the time. That's hard to do because
that hinged.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Like terror because you're like, I actually don't know what
these two might do.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
That's a scary thing. It's like there's a lot of
villains and movies.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
It's worse than evil.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, are quite scary because they you know, they are
trying to kill people for some reason, or they're trying
to you know, take over something, but least as a
rhyme and a reason to what they're doing. Whereas these
two are just like drunk, both literally and figuratively on
power and bloodthirst and bortom.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
It's exactly that's what reminded me of Game of Thrones,
because these two don't want to watch these men die
because I hate their men. They want these men to
die because they find joy in it.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
And because they have not thing else going on in
their lives, and so they just want to watch this
like sadistic terror every day.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Because Pedro Pascal is so good at this job.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
It's working too much. I've got nothing to do.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Oh my god. The worst kind of nepo baby.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
It's what happens when you you're too high achieve at
work is that your bosses go crazy because they're trying
to think of more task for you to do.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, Pedro Pascal, he did get a performance review in
the end. A little spoiler. We also have Connie Nielsen
who reprises her role in the second film. She had
a huge role in the first film as big in
the second one, she had I think a lot of
the deep kind of dialogue like she was the character
that pieced it all together. Kind of Yeah, absolutely nailed it. Also,
(15:52):
the scenery in this film is so beautiful.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Oh, that's a nice thing for you.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Think likes and the buildings, and no, I was looking
at the blood spattered bodies and the disease, and that
everyone else had, like I think a lot of people
had historically accurate teeth, Like everyone had rotting teeth, except
poor Mescal, who also a bit of a slave and
opened it up and had perfect teeth.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
And I was like that, boy's like, I will give
up a lot for this role. I won't give up
my teeth.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Everyone kept their own accents. Not only will we not
do Roman accents, but no one will do any accent.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
You just gotta suspend disbelieve. That's why I think, I
think you've got to go into this movie. First of all,
it's wildly entertaining, which I think is can be hard,
especially with a blockbuster and a pacing like it's also
a long movie. It's only three hours long, and so,
but it doesn't feel like overly I mean, I'm sure
they could have made a few cuts. It doesn't feel
overly bloated. It's super action packed. The story moves really fast.
(16:44):
It's really trying to create a spectacle, which I was
quite thankful for. And a lot of the performances are
very silly and campy and over the top, but I
think it just works because everyone feels it they're in
the same movie, except for maybe Pedro feels like he's
in a slightly more serious indie movie. But at the
end of the day, there's just all killing each other
(17:05):
with swords and whatnot. Shout out to the monkeys for
my favorite part.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, okay, monkey did have a quite interesting role. So
the movie comes out this Thursday. Make sure you go
watch it just in time for our brutally honest review
next week. We're gonna fully make you like, sit down
and grab a popcorn. It's gonna be a good one.
It's gonna be a long one. Kimberly, our producer, she
allows us to have a long one. But we are
very very excited because I actually have so much to
(17:30):
say about this.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Oh we've only scratched surface, guys, there's more to say.
So a lot of Hollywood baby news this week.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Something's in the water, something in the water and mummere
as well, a lot of pregnancy news.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Okay, I don't know how those two.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Maybe it's the time of year.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Maybe what happened nine months from now. I don't want
to know Valentine's time anyway. To kick off the baby news,
Chris Pratt and Catherine Schwarzenegger announced the birth of their
third baby Ford.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Oh, they're already on their third.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yes, So they've got little Lilah and little Eloise. And
also Chris Pratt has his son Jack with his ex
wife Anna Faris. I missed them, as I do too,
but I feel like she's maybe happier and maybe he
seems a bit more happy in his life now. I
don't know. It's so interesting because this is the first
time I think that he's had like a baby announcement
of family announcement that hasn't had backlash, which is very
(18:20):
neat to think about.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
You had backlash for as other kids.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Well, it's kind of a tangled situation because I think
not so much when he and Catherine got married, I
mean maybe a little bit there, But there's been times
Chris Pratt. I'm not defending him, but Chris Pratt seems
to get like a lot of different backlash when he
posts things about his wife or family because in his soul,
I think he is a bit of like a tad guy,
if that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
And I think so like a newly trad guy. Yeah,
like I think what was his backlash? The main one
was he used to be like this fairly loose, relatable,
funny guy, yeah, until he got into this new relationship
and suddenly changed and switched.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yes, He's put like a bit anniversary post for Catherine
and then was like, you know, look at how adoring
she's staring at me. It's hard to because I'm sure
he was joking, but people quite upset, and even like
her mum posted Marie Shrever Arnold Schwarzeneger's ex wife, was like, okay, now,
like you put up a photo of you looking at
her like that, and everyone quite upset. But when when
this whole thing bubbled up is like he put up
(19:17):
a post about Catherine a few years ago now and
was talking about what a great mother and wife she was,
which which is all lovely, and then he put something
in there about like delivering him a healthy child, which
seems just very nice and you know, very surface level.
But the reason that there was like this huge backlash
which jumped out of entertainment news and into like mainstream
(19:38):
news because it was on the front page of these
news sites and people thought he was taking a dig
at his ex wife Anna Faris, because their son Jack
was born quite early and had a lot of health
problems because of that, which they talked about a lot,
and they got involved with charities and doctors, and Anna
Faris in particular has done like a lot of interviews.
I mean they both have, but she's done a lot
of interviews about it. She talked a lot about her podcast,
(19:58):
and it was like a thing that I think really
kind of became yeah, supers for like you know that
to have your like tiny babies so like sick for
so long and have like all the years afterwards, have
all like the health complications that came from that, and
so people like, is he taking a dig that Catherine
delivered him to healthy daughters and Anna and him and
had a different story, which I don't think Anna Faris
(20:19):
has ever like weigh in on that and why would she?
And there's been a few times like that where he's
also put up Mother's Day post for Catherine. He's done
like a shout out to like all the mothers out there,
but especially my lovely wife Katherine. And then there's been
like attacks of people saying like whant you to give
a shout out to Anna, like she, you know, is
the mother of your first child. And and the fact
there's always also been like things of people saying that
he doesn't post as many photos of Jack or talk
(20:41):
about them as much as he does with his daughters,
which I think is one of those things where like
a parasocial relationship with a celebrity maybe goes a bit
far because you don't know, like maybe he and Anna
have a different like set of rules for posting photos
of their kid, or maybe you don't know and you
just don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, it's a weird thing to harp on about.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I think that the tide turned on Chris Pratt a
little bit. Remember he got voted the worst Chris and
all the Marvel men jumped in were like, how dare
you say that? And I was like a lot of
your female co hosts have been like, you know, attacked
in public, and you're not.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Also, Chris, do you want to be the worst Chris?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Weirdly, the tide just turned against him at a time there,
And I think because Anna Anna feris is like so beloved,
it kind of looks like there was something behind the scenes.
But all that to say is that when they've posted
the announcement of their new son, Ford, that seems to
have died off. There's a few comments like that, but
it seems to have died off a little bit, so
that's nice. I think let it go now, especially if
Anna Ferris isn't saying anything about it. And I'm sure
(21:35):
she's you know, she's remarried. Now she's talking about it.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
We still had the better one. We still had the better.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Sides, probably like can you stop dragging my name up
into these headlines? Like she hasn't actually asked for anyone
to jump as far as I know, like I have read,
I feel like I know her quite me being PARASOCIALLYBIA.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Every time he has a teacher's probably like, oh damn it.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
She's probably just like, leave my name out of it
because she's had to sort of like talk about it
a lot. And I feel like I know her because
I've listened to her pods so much, I listened to
her interviews, and I read her book.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
This is a real relationship.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I just think she'd be like, please leave me out
of this conversation. So that happening. Congrats to those two
crazy kids and their new son, Ford, which I do
think is a very cute name and then focus a
lot of solid baby Fords out there and then in
other really lovely baby news which only was announced to
Day Megan Fox and Machine Gun Kelly big question mark
for a while if they were even together that is.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yeah, I didn't think they were together.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Well, the last time she spoke publicly about their relationship
was I think when she did that Call her Daddy
episode and she talked about them always being soul maids
but they were rethinking what the rest of their relationship
looked like together, which kind of made me think they
were together. But they still engaged or like, I don't know,
they've been very They went for a while there of
being like you, very public with all the Instagram posts
(22:47):
and doing joint interviews together and walking all those red
carpets together and about how they used to make out
on the red carpet next to Courtney and Travis. It'd
be like two people. That was a sexy time. And
now we haven't seen a lot from them, so there
was a question mark over where they were together. But
today she said a very I actually really liked her
pregnancy announcement. I won't hear a word against it. Did
you see it?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I haven't seen that.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Oh okay, So Megan Fox is kind of in black
like body paint, like sexy black body paint on Instagram.
And then the second slide is the positive pregnancy test.
And why it's really beautiful is that it's got one
of mgk's songs over it, so last November and in
the caption she says, nothing has ever really lost welcome back.
(23:30):
And why that's really beautiful is that she had shared
that she had had a pregnancy loss with MGK previously,
and in the song last November, he sings, one day,
another ten weeks, I never even got to hear your
heart painting.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Oh that's so sad.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
One day in another ten weeks, I never even got
to hear r last year. It feels like a pash live.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
So it's like a celebration after, you know, going through
that loss, that they've now come back together and they're
welcoming a new baby.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
So this is their first baby together.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
It's their first baby together. So he has a daughter
from a previous relationship ship and she has three sons
with Brian Austin Green. Those kids are so cute. They
look fairies. They're probably older, and they let them get
photographed a lot when they were little. One of my
favorite things about Megan Fox is how like she just
will just not take crap from anyone, like calling her
(24:27):
out for her bad parenting. And you know, white people
think she's a bad parent because her sons have long hair.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Okay, let it go, come on, man, just parcial relationship.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I know all these people like that her kids are
so cute. It's like, also, do you really think her
child's be not looked after because he has his hair long?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
With the kid's like three, Kelly's daughter is so cute.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Yeah, they have. I thought in his documentary seeing their
relationship together was really lovely. It's like, I just think
when you see an nice side to these people, Yeah,
it is really nice.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
I think also like the fact that they've come from
like such a sad play something get like this little
joy it's just so nice to see.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, and that idea of like nothing is really lost,
like welcome back. Because they've talked before about how they
think that their souls have been reincarnated to find each
other in every lifetime.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
This is cute. Alsomely they think that their souls find
each other in every lifetime. And so when Megan Fox
first saw Machine Gun Kelly, She's like, I wasn't shocked
that I met the man I was going to be with,
because I was like, oh, it's you, Like hey, I
see you every lifetime. And so she also thinks that
they had their kids, their kids find them every lifetime,
which I just don't know if I believe in that,
but I think it's very sweet day sweet I do,
all right, So right, you're just not getting on board
(25:38):
with that magic anyway, congrads to those two crazy kids.
The other bit of pregnancy use which we haven't touched
on until now because it's a bit of a complicated one,
And I'm talking about the fact that Margot Robbie and
her husband Tom Ackley have allegedly, unless that's a stunt baby,
welcomed their first child.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Ah, congrats. I feel like she was pregnant for a
long time.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Well the first time that we were, I guess can't
really aware that she. I mean that there was those
phapped a lot, sorry much we talked about as well.
We've done so many episodes on these pat photos. I
feel like her whole preg has been just chronicled through
pap photos and some red carpet. So she was on
holiday in Europe and you can just kind of tell
that she knew she was going to be photographic. She
was like, what am I going to do, like not
(26:20):
walk to the beach. It's gonna happen, So she let
herself be photographed. Those photos went completely viral. That was
almost the pregnancy announcement, even though she didn't announce it.
And then she produced the movie My Old Ass, which
is now in prime video if anyone hasn't seen it.
Such a good movie. But as we talked about the time,
that whole movie completely overshadowed by her baby bump on
the red carpet, and again she never spoke about it,
(26:42):
she was only photographed. Those photos went completely viral. Then
she went to a tennis match, I want to say Wimbledon,
but don't know what it was. All tennis matches look
the same to me. Again, she's in a public place.
She obviously doesn't care about being photographed, like she's not
going to hide away. But then you can see that
she was getting like quiet, Like there's images of like
paparazzi like kind of like chasing her car through the
streets in La and then she went out of sight
(27:05):
for a long time because I guess she had to
go into hiding. And I think sometimes people would be like, oh,
but you know, it can't be that bad. And I
do think that celebrities could have a certain once you
have like money and power, you do have a certain
amount of ability to move around unseen, which is also
what she's doing. But then I think of someone like
Paris Hilton, her having to like lie down in the
back of the car and wear a wig and go
(27:25):
in and because she knows that that particular hospital, because
it's where a lot of celebs go, that there's so
many paparazzi outside.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Gross.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
So I guess like margat Robbie had to kind of
think about the same thing of like I have to
like lock myself away. And I wonder if she had
to lie down in the back of a car to
get to the hospital or something, because she wasn't going
into the hospital, but the news of her birth was
leaked against her will. It came out about it like
over a week ago. I think, now that's fucked up.
On a Sunday, it just all it gives came up
their reports that Margaret Robbie had given birth to her
(27:54):
first child, but she never released a statement, neither of
them posted about it, neither of their family or friends
commented on it. And then in the last couple of days,
there's me in all of these pat photos of her,
like walking through the streets of la with like a
family member and Tom and the pram and you can't
see into the pram, like I mean, thank god, oh
my gosh, that someone's trying to get a camera in there,
(28:16):
but she you can just I don't know. People are
like resharing the photos, not us because we don't reshare
paparazzi photos. But paparazzi photos are a bit of a
hard thing sometimes because even though like we don't share
or support them, they're are some paparazzi photos that we
talk about, Like if it's a celeb like walking into
event and maybe they're taking the photos taken on the street,
but like they're walking into a work event and they're
(28:38):
clearly dressed up and they expect it, like they've got
their game based on before they get in there. And
then sometimes you can tell that like they just knew
they were going to be there and they're okay about it,
like the other day with Meryl Streep and Martin Short,
like those are all pat photos and everyone's falling over
them and no one's having They're.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Like smiling and not hiding. It's yeah, it's different.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
And even though you can see from the reflection of
the car that like their car is being absolutely swarmed
by people. It's it's a hard line to walk for
us because I think like, on one hand, they've gone
to a very known paparazzi hotspot restaurant where there's cameras
camped out the front all the time, so I guess
like there's an element of knowing what you're walking into.
They also don't look distressed, like they look like they're
(29:19):
just laughing and happy, and I think that also makes
us feel like we can talk about the photos. But
then the Marco Robbie photos, like I did look at
them because they just came up in my news feed everywhere,
like you couldn't escape them all over TikTok, they're on Instagram,
they're even on Facebook, like old school Facebook. And when
you look at Margaret Robbie's face, like she does look
a bit distressed. She's like walking to her baby and
(29:39):
she's trying to push a pram and she's probably trying
to just like live her life, and what you're not
seeing is that there's probably a huge group of men
like pushing in on her with cameras.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I hate that, like I hate that, And I think
it's also we have talked about like paparazzi with like
new mothers, because it has like a different through a
different lens. You're also judging these moms and they're parenting skills,
and you're judging on what they're like children look like,
and you're judging on how they look straight after giving birth,
and it's just so so icky to me.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
And I just think of like, over the years, and
especially as celebrity culture has got more intense, the amount
of photos I've seen of children and their moms and
like new moms with little babies just looking like teary, distressed, upset,
and those photos are just have just gone on to
make so much money and everyone's looked at them. Like
there's photos of Victoria Beckham trying to get her kids
(30:30):
out of at airport and the camera's flashing on them
and men are pushing on them and she's getting upset,
Like it's the most animated I've ever seen her. And
the kids are screaming and they're crying, and there's photos
of like Northwestern, Penelope dissps so Courtney Kardashian and Kim
Kardashian's kids. There's photos of them and Mason too, Kourtney
Kardashian's oldest kid. And those kids have grown up with
cameras everywhere, and that's why I think why Kim gets
(30:52):
so much backlash and all the Kardashians do. But her reasoning,
which I kind of agree with, is she's like, when
we're in the home with the camera crew, like they
know the camera crew. The Kardashians have had some of
the same camera crew for over twenty years, Like, these
kids know them. There's no one chasing them through the house.
It's like there's a camera in the background. I feel
like that's so different to a strange man chasing you
(31:14):
through the streets and trying to push a camera in
your face. And there's photos of like and there's videos
of Penelope and Northwest crying saying no.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Photos, stop the photos.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
There's photos of like Hillary Duff heavily pregnant, trying to
get her baby out of the car and like paparazzi
pushing her over. And while those Margot Robbie photos didn't
seem that intense, you can clearly see something is happening
that's making her quiet upset with the way that she's
been like tracked through the streets. I don't know, it
feels a weird thing to like do a baby announcement
(31:42):
when like Chris Pratt and Catherine have like announced it
in like a beautiful text image, and.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
We have talked about like even Rihanna had to announce
like post a video of her son on TikTok because
paparazzi had photos so.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Followed her down onto the beach where she thought she
was alone, and.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
She didn't want them to publish a photo, so she
posted her son first. So even like forcing her hand
to having to post your child when you're not ready
to post your.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Child, yeah, or even like Blake Lively with her last baby,
with her fourth child, having like post all of those
pregnancy photos online because men were trying to climb the
walls into her house. Like the currency of getting a
photo of a women's pregnant body or getting that first
picture of a new baby. I think, like we talk
about like celebrity culture changing and like paparazzi culture changing,
but I think when something like this happens, you see
(32:27):
like it hasn't changed. In fact, it's swung almost worse
the other way because now people need to get their
TikTok algorithms up and their video algorithms up and all
those on like you know, Instagram and stuff. So it's
almost like you need more content than ever before to
keep things running, and that content is coming from like
women and their babies and their pregnancy. So I don't know, like,
congrats to Mago Robbie, but I also wish, I kind
(32:48):
of wish we didn't know, because she doesn't want.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Us to know. Thank you so much for listening to
the Spill today. The Spill is produced by Kimberly Bradish
with sound production by Jacob Brown. We will be back
here on your podcast speed at three pm tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Bye bye, Lan
From mum and mea welcome to the spill your daily
pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodney and I'm Murnham and
on today's show, guys, the gauntlet has been lifted. The
chains have been taken off, because finally, finally, the embargo
for Gladiator two has been lifted, and we're going to
give you out honest review. No spoilers though this is
you know, this is spoiler.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Lie day dreaming about this, I've been dreaming at this moment.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Also, there has been a whole raft of celebrity baby
news this week. But interestingly enough, behind each of these
celebrity announcements or stories, there is bit of drama behind
all of them. I'm not gonna lie and some sweetness
because you know celebrity babies. Well, we're going to get
into the drama, but first, I feel like.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
We've had a bit of a lull in the highly
creative reality TV atmosphere, which is why I've got some
really good news to share because America's Sweethearts Dallas Cowboys
Cheerleaders coming back for a season two.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Thank god, I reckon, We're going to have to do
a really honest on this. Yeah, I pencil in for
three years from now when it comes out.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
We actually I think we should link our first really
honest trivia for season one in the show notes that
was a great time in case you're got because I
think that was one of my favorite ones. But if
you aren't aware of what the hell I'm talking about,
it is a reality show on Netflix. It came out
in June this year, which I felt like was two
years ago. It feels ages, but it only came out
this year, and it followed a cheerleading squad that plays
(01:41):
for the NFL team, the Dallas Cowboys, and it looked
at how these women start from the beginning of their
like trying to audition for this massive role, to like
being cut It's so cutthroat. It's like one of the
probably most cut throat industries I've seen women go through
until they end up being a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader. It's
(02:01):
not really about the cheering in particular, it's more about
the journey these women go through too, and the holy cheerleader.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Sure behind this industry that looks so ridiculous and sexist
and silly from the outside, but there's a much to
be history behind it as well as the fact that
it's also problematic and sexist.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
And the but heartwarming.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Heartwarming because two things at once.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
These women want to be a cheerleader so badly for
this specific team, to the point where they would do
it for free. And half of them are doctors and
half of them have PhDs, and they're like brilliant women
and they're just being judged for like how they look,
and like how they dance, and how high they can
kick and how fast they can kick and how quickly
they can do a jump split. It went absolutely viral,
(02:44):
so it was like in the top ten of Netflix
Top series worldwide for a while, like in the US
was five weeks. In the first four days of it
coming out, it had two point three million views. It
was absolutely brilliant. It went viral on TikTok as you know,
Like I mean, we're Australian, so we knew Thunderstruck was
a great song. But I feel like this really took
Thunderstruck in a whole new life, especially for younger audiences.
(03:08):
It really like encapsulated how something that I feel like,
especially our generation of women, kind of put down I
feel like that's a fair thing to say, like putting
down any type of industry that women are in that
has to do with their physical appearance, and it just
kind of gave it a new light and shows like
the darkness as well as the light of having those
kind of roles.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah. Absolutely, And I think there's a lot of investment
in season two because you do think, like, can you
capture that like lightning in a bottle again of how
you know, addicted everyone was to this series and these stories,
so we didn't know these women, and I think, like,
maybe it won't have the same Oh, look, it probably will,
but I don't know if you'll have the same kind
of awe factor because we kind of know the ropes
a bit now. But what we do have is carry
(03:50):
over characters that I think people will be really invested
in because two really big names from the first season
were Kelly and Charlie, who were going trying to be
like rookies and get into the squad for the first time,
and we followed them very extensively, even like going to
like Kelly's hometown and like seeing that her parents like
stayed together to like so they could afford to like
(04:10):
her dance lessons so that she could be a Dallas
Cowboys cheerleader, which I still find absolutely wild, but I
guess very heartwarming. And then Kelly and Charlie were both
cut at the last minute. And when the announcement of
the News Squad came out this year, do remember in
the office, we treated it like breaking news. We yelped,
everyone was screaming, and everyone was just combing through that
photo just looking for those two faces. And when we
(04:31):
saw they were there, it was a big deal for
us and like for all the fans of the show.
And I think now it'll kind of be like watching
that process back. And I'm sure there's also people from
the last squad who didn't make it onto this one.
There'll be news stories, there'll be new controversies because.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Mad these rookies and stuff. They'll have like massive fan bases.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
And a lot of there's so many women on that
squad who I'm sure have really interesting stories who we
didn't get to see the first time, just because a
lot of the big players this time, like Kelsey and
Victoria and Claire are all didn't return for this season,
so it's.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
A lot of rockett I hope we get a sideshow
rocket endeavors.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Oh, I would like I feel like she it's not
that long till now, so she gets a reality show
of her own, to be honest, because there was so
much drama and fallout from all the interviews she did
after the show aired, with her saying that she hadn't
spoken to Kelly, who's the coach of the team, with
her saying she hadn't talked to the girls and the
team they've been doing appearances without her, and then the
whole drama about her birthday party where on the Netflix
show it looks like none of them turned up and
(05:28):
it's the first time you saw them break this character
of like we're all sisters, because you had like Claire
and Kelsey and all like the main players putting out
statements saying that that wasn't true.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Which I think will be what I'm really interested about
in this next season is like, now these women have
their own power to them, Like the virility of the
first season has given so many of these women like
millions of followers, and they've been on podcasts and they've
been doing interviews and they can honestly hold their own now,
and I think that power dynamic will come into play
(05:59):
in the same d Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Absolutely, Well, I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
So that will be coming out. We definitely will be
talking about it when it is out, and if you
want to listen to our Brilliance review of season one,
we will link that in the show notes. God, well,
it is time. It is time. I am about to
(06:21):
embark on a review for Gladiator two.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
And this is so red hot, guys, we couldn't even
save it for Friday weekend watch. We had the embargo
lifted at one am today. I should have called you
at one am and been like, get on the mic,
even like.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
This is one hundred percent my weekend watch of the week.
But also like with this review today, do not worry.
You don't need to fast forward or anything because I'm
not going to be giving you any plot points. We're
not going to be dissecting the actual film. We will
be next week for our briolely onst review of Gladiator two.
So make sure you watch it now because it's out
right now. Make sure you watch it between now and
(06:53):
next Friday, not this coming on the next one. We're
giving you plenty of time.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, guys, go to the cinema and watch this please, Like,
first of all, not to step on your review, but
it's a good movie. Well, you'll have a fun time.
But also Emily and I there are things, there is
moments from this movie that I think have burned into
my brain for the rest of my life. And even
though we were sitting separately because the crush of people
was too intense, I feel like we were both screaming
and yelling at different times. And so there's parts of
(07:18):
this movie that we need to dissect. But we're going
to do it now brutally honest reviews. So no spoilers here,
but just no, that's coming.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Okay, So I just want to give you a little
kind of outline review of how I felt about, Okay,
this movie. Should we talk about the premiere first?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Sure, I was grateful enough, privileged enough, some might say,
to get my own tickets. And because I'm a kind.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Old they grow up so fast.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Because I'm a kind person, I decided to bring our
video producer Julian with me. It was his first premiere.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
That's really nice of you to take him, because that
man has to edit a lot of our videos and
the things he must hear and the things he must see.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
So we went to Gladiator. There was a group of
us that went together because I'm on the spill. I
was kind of the leader of the group, kind of
like those tall guides that hold up the science.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
So that was me because normally I feel like I
had to take that burden on. You have the height
for it, and I don't need everyone can see me.
But we did get separated because it was so intense,
so we both sat with different groups, so it was
very intense.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
The first mistake I made was I made my group
join the wrong line.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
No rookie error.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
You were in a line and they were like, oh,
We're like I can't really see much from here, and
I'm like, yeah, sorry, and then I realized, oh wait,
when meant to be at the front. Yes, So we
came to the front. Everyone was there. They're like, where
are you guys? So sorry, we got there. I forced
Julian to kind of like find our seats straight away.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
That's what you do. You go in, you get the
good seats, you put your stuff down, you put first
round of drinks down, you go out, you get second
round of drinks. You come back in, you set all
your little drinks up because they're only a little small champagne,
so it's like two set of drinks for the movie
and then you settle in your seat and then you
can do your Instagram and stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Anyway, So that was a whole big thing about the premiere.
We got to watch our social producers we have talked
about live and how she just located it at the premier.
She's okay, I don't want to get into that. If
you want to hear about that, we'll link that episode
in the show no, and we'll.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Link ovideo where you can actually see the moment she
falls over and crushes her shoulder and dislocates.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
The bat check a warning. So she was interviewing Paul Mescal.
We saw Paul Mescal a few times walking in, except
the security guards wanted us to move along, and we're like, fine,
I respect that. We sat down and the cast came out,
who were traveling here for the premiere. They did like
their little speeches, the little q and as, and when
we got into.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
The film, yes, okay, and now we find that everyone's
just like I can just se everyone's screaming at their
phone or their car ready or whatever they're listening to,
being like, get to the review.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
What did you think of the movie? I don't care,
what did you think of moviem So I was talking
to Julian. He says it was a should.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
We get julete in here? Is he going to get
through here?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
He said it was a three act structure. I told
you that, but okay, okay, so you and Julian both
told me that, so I wanted that to be clear.
He was like, I wasn't too sure what happened with
the second act, and I was like, I don't know
what you're talking about. It was a three act structure.
It's a very action gory movie. So if you have
a thing with blood, beheading, cutting limbs off.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
But like, if you've watched Game of Thrones, you'll be fine.
It's a very similar says Glorious.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Game of Throat. Yeah, they don't like hone in on it,
but it's very actioning. It's a lot of angry men yelling.
I wish there were subtitles. There was a lot of
dialogue that I missed.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
You're like, Cao's that guy. It's like it's his dad.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
The plot is the plot of what I would say
is a typical action movie where it starts off understandable
and then they just lose all control and meaning.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Oh really, I actually thought the plot was like quite
an interesting kind of three line. So you start with Paul,
I'm trying to definitely trying to keep you on track.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
He sorry, we started with Paul, who plays Lucius and
he and what's happening right now is like it's a
twelve years after the first Gladiator film where Maximus played
by Russell Crowe, wanted to destroy the Roman Empire. Look,
it didn't work out.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Spoileralers.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
He's now dead. The string belonged to Maximus, no, I
give it to you.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
What is there?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
From people free?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
The Roman Empire is still trying to take over all
the surrounding countries and villages, and they're attacking all these people,
killing everyone and enslaving the strong men to fight as
gladiators for everyone else's entertainment. That's basically what happens to Paul.
So he's living outside of Rome. He hates the Romans.
He's like, I want to kill the Romans. One drive
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in life which I wish I had, was to kill
the Romans. I wish I was as passionate about something
as Paul is about killing these Romans. So what happens
is I think he manifested that because then the Romans
come into his village.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yes, and then he kind of becomes out. We won't
spoiled too much, but going to but.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
His village and his like area. They lose that fight
and they imprisoned Paul. I'm going to call them Paul
throughout this whole thing. Okay, I know his name is Lucis,
but Paul. My name changes throughout the movies. The Navy
does change.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Do be careful about that little plot twist.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
His name changes. He gets in prison as a gladiator.
The owner of the Gladiators is Denzel Washington.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Like.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
His whole job is to make money from these men
fighting that are usually slaves and prisoners, and the gladiator's
job is to go into these big, big fights and
if they win the fight, then they can slowly move
up the ranks and then their end goal is to
finally be released as free men.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yes, they arena turned slaves into gladiators and the gladiators
into free men. You have something.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I knew it from the start, did you now? So
from then on you're just watching these men fight each other.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Which is why people go I've seen a lot of
kind of because obviously the full written reviews and like
full podcast reviews like ours were embargoed until today, but
you could give social reactions and top line reactions that
sort of thing. And a lot of people have been
calling it Barbie for men in terms of like giving
them scenes that they might like and like moments to
cheer for it.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
All that Barbie for women, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
But also all the hot men. But a just I
guess like a lot of people might be looking at
and thinking that it's more of a especially because the
way they tried to market it and sell it and
talk about it that it was this very kind of
prestige film and it was amazing, you know, storytelling and
these deep character arcs and like, yes, there's a real
element of that, but at its core, as you were
saying before, this is like an action, popcorn, blockbuster, schmaltzy movie.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
It's great with top top tier actors in it. So
sometimes you got I think you get lulled into this
idea that, oh, I'm watching this really prestige drama and
then when you actually look at the plot twist of
the movie making and some of the cgi scenes, like
oh no, no, this is made for.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Like it's wow, like a Marvel or yeah, you're right,
but there is some political elements. I will give him that.
We have Pedro Pascal, who I think is the best
in this.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
He was amazing, pot so but also layered.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, he's the chief of the Roman army, so you
can just imagine what imagine what he's wearing. I imagine
what he's wearing and how he's fighting. He's a chief,
he can't be stopped. We then also have Joseph Quinn
who we love from Stranger Things, and Fred Heckinger who
we love from White Lotus play the Emperor Brothers. They
were so good, incredible.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
You know how you know that an actor is incredible
at their performance. I hated them. I hated them. So
it was like the time. That's hard to do because
that hinged.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Like terror because you're like, I actually don't know what
these two might do.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
That's a scary thing. It's like there's a lot of
villains and movies.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
It's worse than evil.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, are quite scary because they you know, they are
trying to kill people for some reason, or they're trying
to you know, take over something, but least as a
rhyme and a reason to what they're doing. Whereas these
two are just like drunk, both literally and figuratively on
power and bloodthirst and bortom.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
It's exactly that's what reminded me of Game of Thrones,
because these two don't want to watch these men die
because I hate their men. They want these men to
die because they find joy in it.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
And because they have not thing else going on in
their lives, and so they just want to watch this
like sadistic terror every day.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Because Pedro Pascal is so good at this job.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
It's working too much. I've got nothing to do.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Oh my god. The worst kind of nepo baby.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
It's what happens when you you're too high achieve at
work is that your bosses go crazy because they're trying
to think of more task for you to do.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, Pedro Pascal, he did get a performance review in
the end. A little spoiler. We also have Connie Nielsen
who reprises her role in the second film. She had
a huge role in the first film as big in
the second one, she had I think a lot of
the deep kind of dialogue like she was the character
that pieced it all together. Kind of Yeah, absolutely nailed it. Also,
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the scenery in this film is so beautiful.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Oh, that's a nice thing for you.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Think likes and the buildings, and no, I was looking
at the blood spattered bodies and the disease, and that
everyone else had, like I think a lot of people
had historically accurate teeth, Like everyone had rotting teeth, except
poor Mescal, who also a bit of a slave and
opened it up and had perfect teeth.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
And I was like that, boy's like, I will give
up a lot for this role. I won't give up
my teeth.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Everyone kept their own accents. Not only will we not
do Roman accents, but no one will do any accent.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
You just gotta suspend disbelieve. That's why I think, I
think you've got to go into this movie. First of all,
it's wildly entertaining, which I think is can be hard,
especially with a blockbuster and a pacing like it's also
a long movie. It's only three hours long, and so,
but it doesn't feel like overly I mean, I'm sure
they could have made a few cuts. It doesn't feel
overly bloated. It's super action packed. The story moves really fast.
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It's really trying to create a spectacle, which I was
quite thankful for. And a lot of the performances are
very silly and campy and over the top, but I
think it just works because everyone feels it they're in
the same movie, except for maybe Pedro feels like he's
in a slightly more serious indie movie. But at the
end of the day, there's just all killing each other
(17:05):
with swords and whatnot. Shout out to the monkeys for
my favorite part.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, okay, monkey did have a quite interesting role. So
the movie comes out this Thursday. Make sure you go
watch it just in time for our brutally honest review
next week. We're gonna fully make you like, sit down
and grab a popcorn. It's gonna be a good one.
It's gonna be a long one. Kimberly, our producer, she
allows us to have a long one. But we are
very very excited because I actually have so much to
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say about this.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Oh we've only scratched surface, guys, there's more to say.
So a lot of Hollywood baby news this week.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Something's in the water, something in the water and mummere
as well, a lot of pregnancy news.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Okay, I don't know how those two.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Maybe it's the time of year.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Maybe what happened nine months from now. I don't want
to know Valentine's time anyway. To kick off the baby news,
Chris Pratt and Catherine Schwarzenegger announced the birth of their
third baby Ford.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Oh, they're already on their third.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yes, So they've got little Lilah and little Eloise. And
also Chris Pratt has his son Jack with his ex
wife Anna Faris. I missed them, as I do too,
but I feel like she's maybe happier and maybe he
seems a bit more happy in his life now. I
don't know. It's so interesting because this is the first
time I think that he's had like a baby announcement
of family announcement that hasn't had backlash, which is very
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neat to think about.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
You had backlash for as other kids.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Well, it's kind of a tangled situation because I think
not so much when he and Catherine got married, I
mean maybe a little bit there, But there's been times
Chris Pratt. I'm not defending him, but Chris Pratt seems
to get like a lot of different backlash when he
posts things about his wife or family because in his soul,
I think he is a bit of like a tad guy,
if that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
And I think so like a newly trad guy. Yeah,
like I think what was his backlash? The main one
was he used to be like this fairly loose, relatable,
funny guy, yeah, until he got into this new relationship
and suddenly changed and switched.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yes, He's put like a bit anniversary post for Catherine
and then was like, you know, look at how adoring
she's staring at me. It's hard to because I'm sure
he was joking, but people quite upset, and even like
her mum posted Marie Shrever Arnold Schwarzeneger's ex wife, was like, okay, now,
like you put up a photo of you looking at
her like that, and everyone quite upset. But when when
this whole thing bubbled up is like he put up
(19:17):
a post about Catherine a few years ago now and
was talking about what a great mother and wife she was,
which which is all lovely, and then he put something
in there about like delivering him a healthy child, which
seems just very nice and you know, very surface level.
But the reason that there was like this huge backlash
which jumped out of entertainment news and into like mainstream
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news because it was on the front page of these
news sites and people thought he was taking a dig
at his ex wife Anna Faris, because their son Jack
was born quite early and had a lot of health
problems because of that, which they talked about a lot,
and they got involved with charities and doctors, and Anna
Faris in particular has done like a lot of interviews.
I mean they both have, but she's done a lot
of interviews about it. She talked a lot about her podcast,
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and it was like a thing that I think really
kind of became yeah, supers for like you know that
to have your like tiny babies so like sick for
so long and have like all the years afterwards, have
all like the health complications that came from that, and
so people like, is he taking a dig that Catherine
delivered him to healthy daughters and Anna and him and
had a different story, which I don't think Anna Faris
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has ever like weigh in on that and why would she?
And there's been a few times like that where he's
also put up Mother's Day post for Catherine. He's done
like a shout out to like all the mothers out there,
but especially my lovely wife Katherine. And then there's been
like attacks of people saying like whant you to give
a shout out to Anna, like she, you know, is
the mother of your first child. And and the fact
there's always also been like things of people saying that
he doesn't post as many photos of Jack or talk
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about them as much as he does with his daughters,
which I think is one of those things where like
a parasocial relationship with a celebrity maybe goes a bit
far because you don't know, like maybe he and Anna
have a different like set of rules for posting photos
of their kid, or maybe you don't know and you
just don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, it's a weird thing to harp on about.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I think that the tide turned on Chris Pratt a
little bit. Remember he got voted the worst Chris and
all the Marvel men jumped in were like, how dare
you say that? And I was like a lot of
your female co hosts have been like, you know, attacked
in public, and you're not.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Also, Chris, do you want to be the worst Chris?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Weirdly, the tide just turned against him at a time there,
And I think because Anna Anna feris is like so beloved,
it kind of looks like there was something behind the scenes.
But all that to say is that when they've posted
the announcement of their new son, Ford, that seems to
have died off. There's a few comments like that, but
it seems to have died off a little bit, so
that's nice. I think let it go now, especially if
Anna Ferris isn't saying anything about it. And I'm sure
(21:35):
she's you know, she's remarried. Now she's talking about it.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
We still had the better one. We still had the better.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Sides, probably like can you stop dragging my name up
into these headlines? Like she hasn't actually asked for anyone
to jump as far as I know, like I have read,
I feel like I know her quite me being PARASOCIALLYBIA.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Every time he has a teacher's probably like, oh damn it.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
She's probably just like, leave my name out of it
because she's had to sort of like talk about it
a lot. And I feel like I know her because
I've listened to her pods so much, I listened to
her interviews, and I read her book.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
This is a real relationship.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I just think she'd be like, please leave me out
of this conversation. So that happening. Congrats to those two
crazy kids and their new son, Ford, which I do
think is a very cute name and then focus a
lot of solid baby Fords out there and then in
other really lovely baby news which only was announced to
Day Megan Fox and Machine Gun Kelly big question mark
for a while if they were even together that is.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yeah, I didn't think they were together.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Well, the last time she spoke publicly about their relationship
was I think when she did that Call her Daddy
episode and she talked about them always being soul maids
but they were rethinking what the rest of their relationship
looked like together, which kind of made me think they
were together. But they still engaged or like, I don't know,
they've been very They went for a while there of
being like you, very public with all the Instagram posts
(22:47):
and doing joint interviews together and walking all those red
carpets together and about how they used to make out
on the red carpet next to Courtney and Travis. It'd
be like two people. That was a sexy time. And
now we haven't seen a lot from them, so there
was a question mark over where they were together. But
today she said a very I actually really liked her
pregnancy announcement. I won't hear a word against it. Did
you see it?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I haven't seen that.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Oh okay, So Megan Fox is kind of in black
like body paint, like sexy black body paint on Instagram.
And then the second slide is the positive pregnancy test.
And why it's really beautiful is that it's got one
of mgk's songs over it, so last November and in
the caption she says, nothing has ever really lost welcome back.
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And why that's really beautiful is that she had shared
that she had had a pregnancy loss with MGK previously,
and in the song last November, he sings, one day,
another ten weeks, I never even got to hear your
heart painting.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Oh that's so sad.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
One day in another ten weeks, I never even got
to hear r last year. It feels like a pash live.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
So it's like a celebration after, you know, going through
that loss, that they've now come back together and they're
welcoming a new baby.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
So this is their first baby together.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
It's their first baby together. So he has a daughter
from a previous relationship ship and she has three sons
with Brian Austin Green. Those kids are so cute. They
look fairies. They're probably older, and they let them get
photographed a lot when they were little. One of my
favorite things about Megan Fox is how like she just
will just not take crap from anyone, like calling her
(24:27):
out for her bad parenting. And you know, white people
think she's a bad parent because her sons have long hair.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Okay, let it go, come on, man, just parcial relationship.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I know all these people like that her kids are
so cute. It's like, also, do you really think her
child's be not looked after because he has his hair long?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
With the kid's like three, Kelly's daughter is so cute.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Yeah, they have. I thought in his documentary seeing their
relationship together was really lovely. It's like, I just think
when you see an nice side to these people, Yeah,
it is really nice.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
I think also like the fact that they've come from
like such a sad play something get like this little
joy it's just so nice to see.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, and that idea of like nothing is really lost,
like welcome back. Because they've talked before about how they
think that their souls have been reincarnated to find each
other in every lifetime.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
This is cute. Alsomely they think that their souls find
each other in every lifetime. And so when Megan Fox
first saw Machine Gun Kelly, She's like, I wasn't shocked
that I met the man I was going to be with,
because I was like, oh, it's you, Like hey, I
see you every lifetime. And so she also thinks that
they had their kids, their kids find them every lifetime,
which I just don't know if I believe in that,
but I think it's very sweet day sweet I do,
all right, So right, you're just not getting on board
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with that magic anyway, congrads to those two crazy kids.
The other bit of pregnancy use which we haven't touched
on until now because it's a bit of a complicated one,
And I'm talking about the fact that Margot Robbie and
her husband Tom Ackley have allegedly, unless that's a stunt baby,
welcomed their first child.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Ah, congrats. I feel like she was pregnant for a
long time.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Well the first time that we were, I guess can't
really aware that she. I mean that there was those
phapped a lot, sorry much we talked about as well.
We've done so many episodes on these pat photos. I
feel like her whole preg has been just chronicled through
pap photos and some red carpet. So she was on
holiday in Europe and you can just kind of tell
that she knew she was going to be photographic. She
was like, what am I going to do, like not
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walk to the beach. It's gonna happen, So she let
herself be photographed. Those photos went completely viral. That was
almost the pregnancy announcement, even though she didn't announce it.
And then she produced the movie My Old Ass, which
is now in prime video if anyone hasn't seen it.
Such a good movie. But as we talked about the time,
that whole movie completely overshadowed by her baby bump on
the red carpet, and again she never spoke about it,
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she was only photographed. Those photos went completely viral. Then
she went to a tennis match, I want to say Wimbledon,
but don't know what it was. All tennis matches look
the same to me. Again, she's in a public place.
She obviously doesn't care about being photographed, like she's not
going to hide away. But then you can see that
she was getting like quiet, Like there's images of like
paparazzi like kind of like chasing her car through the
streets in La and then she went out of sight
(27:05):
for a long time because I guess she had to
go into hiding. And I think sometimes people would be like, oh,
but you know, it can't be that bad. And I
do think that celebrities could have a certain once you
have like money and power, you do have a certain
amount of ability to move around unseen, which is also
what she's doing. But then I think of someone like
Paris Hilton, her having to like lie down in the
back of the car and wear a wig and go
(27:25):
in and because she knows that that particular hospital, because
it's where a lot of celebs go, that there's so
many paparazzi outside.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Gross.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
So I guess like margat Robbie had to kind of
think about the same thing of like I have to
like lock myself away. And I wonder if she had
to lie down in the back of a car to
get to the hospital or something, because she wasn't going
into the hospital, but the news of her birth was
leaked against her will. It came out about it like
over a week ago. I think, now that's fucked up.
On a Sunday, it just all it gives came up
their reports that Margaret Robbie had given birth to her
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first child, but she never released a statement, neither of
them posted about it, neither of their family or friends
commented on it. And then in the last couple of days,
there's me in all of these pat photos of her,
like walking through the streets of la with like a
family member and Tom and the pram and you can't
see into the pram, like I mean, thank god, oh
my gosh, that someone's trying to get a camera in there,
(28:16):
but she you can just I don't know. People are
like resharing the photos, not us because we don't reshare
paparazzi photos. But paparazzi photos are a bit of a
hard thing sometimes because even though like we don't share
or support them, they're are some paparazzi photos that we
talk about, Like if it's a celeb like walking into
event and maybe they're taking the photos taken on the street,
but like they're walking into a work event and they're
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clearly dressed up and they expect it, like they've got
their game based on before they get in there. And
then sometimes you can tell that like they just knew
they were going to be there and they're okay about it,
like the other day with Meryl Streep and Martin Short,
like those are all pat photos and everyone's falling over
them and no one's having They're.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Like smiling and not hiding. It's yeah, it's different.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
And even though you can see from the reflection of
the car that like their car is being absolutely swarmed
by people. It's it's a hard line to walk for
us because I think like, on one hand, they've gone
to a very known paparazzi hotspot restaurant where there's cameras
camped out the front all the time, so I guess
like there's an element of knowing what you're walking into.
They also don't look distressed, like they look like they're
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just laughing and happy, and I think that also makes
us feel like we can talk about the photos. But
then the Marco Robbie photos, like I did look at
them because they just came up in my news feed everywhere,
like you couldn't escape them all over TikTok, they're on Instagram,
they're even on Facebook, like old school Facebook. And when
you look at Margaret Robbie's face, like she does look
a bit distressed. She's like walking to her baby and
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she's trying to push a pram and she's probably trying
to just like live her life, and what you're not
seeing is that there's probably a huge group of men
like pushing in on her with cameras.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I hate that, like I hate that, And I think
it's also we have talked about like paparazzi with like
new mothers, because it has like a different through a
different lens. You're also judging these moms and they're parenting skills,
and you're judging on what they're like children look like,
and you're judging on how they look straight after giving birth,
and it's just so so icky to me.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
And I just think of like, over the years, and
especially as celebrity culture has got more intense, the amount
of photos I've seen of children and their moms and
like new moms with little babies just looking like teary, distressed, upset,
and those photos are just have just gone on to
make so much money and everyone's looked at them. Like
there's photos of Victoria Beckham trying to get her kids
(30:30):
out of at airport and the camera's flashing on them
and men are pushing on them and she's getting upset,
Like it's the most animated I've ever seen her. And
the kids are screaming and they're crying, and there's photos
of like Northwestern, Penelope dissps so Courtney Kardashian and Kim
Kardashian's kids. There's photos of them and Mason too, Kourtney
Kardashian's oldest kid. And those kids have grown up with
cameras everywhere, and that's why I think why Kim gets
(30:52):
so much backlash and all the Kardashians do. But her reasoning,
which I kind of agree with, is she's like, when
we're in the home with the camera crew, like they
know the camera crew. The Kardashians have had some of
the same camera crew for over twenty years, Like, these
kids know them. There's no one chasing them through the house.
It's like there's a camera in the background. I feel
like that's so different to a strange man chasing you
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through the streets and trying to push a camera in
your face. And there's photos of like and there's videos
of Penelope and Northwest crying saying no.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Photos, stop the photos.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
There's photos of like Hillary Duff heavily pregnant, trying to
get her baby out of the car and like paparazzi
pushing her over. And while those Margot Robbie photos didn't
seem that intense, you can clearly see something is happening
that's making her quiet upset with the way that she's
been like tracked through the streets. I don't know, it
feels a weird thing to like do a baby announcement
(31:42):
when like Chris Pratt and Catherine have like announced it
in like a beautiful text image, and.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
We have talked about like even Rihanna had to announce
like post a video of her son on TikTok because
paparazzi had photos so.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Followed her down onto the beach where she thought she
was alone, and.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
She didn't want them to publish a photo, so she
posted her son first. So even like forcing her hand
to having to post your child when you're not ready
to post your.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Child, yeah, or even like Blake Lively with her last baby,
with her fourth child, having like post all of those
pregnancy photos online because men were trying to climb the
walls into her house. Like the currency of getting a
photo of a women's pregnant body or getting that first
picture of a new baby. I think, like we talk
about like celebrity culture changing and like paparazzi culture changing,
but I think when something like this happens, you see
(32:27):
like it hasn't changed. In fact, it's swung almost worse
the other way because now people need to get their
TikTok algorithms up and their video algorithms up and all
those on like you know, Instagram and stuff. So it's
almost like you need more content than ever before to
keep things running, and that content is coming from like
women and their babies and their pregnancy. So I don't know, like,
congrats to Mago Robbie, but I also wish, I kind
(32:48):
of wish we didn't know, because she doesn't want.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Us to know. Thank you so much for listening to
the Spill today. The Spill is produced by Kimberly Bradish
with sound production by Jacob Brown. We will be back
here on your podcast speed at three pm tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Bye bye, Lan
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