November 19, 2024 • 22 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
So much.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You're listening to a Mamma Mia podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders
that this podcast is recorded on From Mamma Mia. Welcome
to The Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura
Brodnick and I'm Ash London. And on the show today,
there's Look, there's a few new conspiracy theories around Megan
(00:35):
Markle and Prince Harry. Thanks for some new photos that
have resurfaced. We're going to get into that because, as always,
there's more to say than what the headlines are reporting on. Plus,
we're doing a bit of a Christmas movie deep Die,
because even though we're in November and I'm very against this,
there have been a whole bunch of oh yeah, I
haven't got to that yet, there have been a whole
bunch of new Christmas movies dropped and look, some of
them are wonderful and some of them are very, very weird.
(00:57):
But first, Ash, you have some breaking news for us
that you wanted to share.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Breaking news from Camp Kardashian because if anyone was going
to get a Tesla robot, first, we all know it
was gonna be Kimmi. She loves to get on these
things nice and early. So we know that Tesla's got
the self driving cars. Have you seen those around on
like people's.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, every time I see it, every time I see
an instant story of someone who's in a self driving car,
it just it just does freak me out. I know
the car's going to be safer. Don't come for me, Tesla.
I don't know how. I'm not sure about the legalities
around that, but every time I see someone in the
back seat just or like in the passenger seat and
they're filming the car driving by itself, freaks me out.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Freaks me out absolutely. They've also got these cyber trucks,
which are the ugliest. I can't imagine an uglier car.
They're just absolutely foul. And of course Kimmy Kay's got
one of those, so she I think I read that
she got a parking ticket or a fine last week
because the front windows of them are too tinted, so
it's like an legal car pretty much.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Oh my god, I hate that I know this. But
Kylie Jenner has got those tickets as well, because all
the card ashly women, I think except for Courtney, but
all the others like Kendall, Kylie, and Kim all have
multiple multiple cars that they have like separate guys. I
just fall in their big compounds and they all drive
themselves everywhere.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
They do, which when I get it, so if you
take photos of them, I get why they've got the tint.
And also like unless they get into merit points, as
if they care about it, a couple hundred dollars fine,
that's probably built into the cost of the car.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
They're like, absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I can't really can kind of understand an Optimist unit,
which is the Tesla Robot. I don't really get why
anyone needs one of these. They cost between twenty and
thirty thousand dollars. That's what Elon's kind of like said.
So Kimmi said, meet my new friend, as she introduced
the bot, and here's some audio of her just having
a grand old time with her Tesla robot.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Okay, Hi, can you do this?
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I love you?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Oh you know how to do that? Do you know
how to do? Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
You are Hawaiian.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
You're so cute.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Rock paper scissors one, two, three.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Oh you're a little slow, but I beat you now, Laura.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
It does beg the question, given that Nicole scherzing Up
recently got canceled by the entire Broadway community for liking
a trumpy post. Are the celebrities going to start to
ditch anything Tesla related given that Elon is pretty much
the vice president in this new Republican Trump presidency.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I mean, i'd say potentially, But I think Kim Kardashian's
fallen a lot closer to the sun than that, because
she's really good friends with Ivanka Trump, who is always
sitting next to her at her birthday parties, She's photographed
with her at events like, She's been quite open about
them being close friends. So I guess that would almost
be although Ivunk has really separated her personal like her
public life from her father this time around, so I
(03:47):
don't know. Kim Kardashian is just the kind of person
who can just skim around stuff like that without any
kind of pushback in that way. So I'd say she
seems very good at playing both sides of these situations.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
True.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
It's that law degree she got, babe. Yeah, she just
helps her figure out where to stand. I just think
it's interesting, and you're absolutely right. You have made a
great point that she's a bit of Teflon like things
do kind of slide off for a bit. She managed
us to kind of court controversy but not get too involved.
But I just don't understand why anyone needs this robot.
But God bless her. I mean, if it's getting to
the point in her life where she has so much
(04:19):
that some dumb robot it's going to give her five
minutes of joy before she sends it back the Tesla
lab or whatever, more power to her.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
But yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Mean, I mean, I get Internet from Elon, so I
can't talk because I'm all like, I would never get
a yes. But I live in the country, so I
need Yeah, the Elon satellite. He's probably listening to everything
we're saying right now, Hello Elon. But yeah, I don't
get the robot thing. That's a step too far from me,
I think, But God bless her.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
So Megan Michael has been in the headlines again this week,
and what I don't believe it in a shocking is
unrespected this turn of events. At least this time, no
one's riking on her for someone saying that a famous
friends and something I mean about her, or questioning where
the infamous jam is that she promised us, and we
haven't been able to buy for months and months and months. No,
this time, she was on a bit of a glamorous
(05:05):
night out in LA for the launch of a new
haircare line, which was released by one of her close friends,
Katie Lee, who had recently This is the stuff I
learned as I delve into this, who recently hosted a
birthday brunch for Megan Michael.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
So, God, you know too much.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Well. I think the reason I was looking that information
up is that she hasn't been seen at a lot
of events recently, like a handful here and there, mostly
kind of very charity organizations. So when she was photographed
at this hair care launch, I assumed it must be
because she hadn't just because she would get invited to everything.
I'm assuming she's not braving the LA traffic from Montecito,
(05:40):
where she lives and going into the city to attend
the launch for hair care line, Like that's something you
do when you first get into media and you go
to everything.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
It was my first thought why she had a hair
care launch. I'm glad you explained it. I'm glad you
did the deep dive. That's why you're here. Thank you
so much.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
One of you, yes, one of her best friends. So
all the headlines are very much like Megan Markle steps
out for glamorous night without Prince Harry, and then people
started doing like a bit of a deep dive into
the last time that they had been seen together. So
the last time they were seen together it wasn't that
long ago. It was according to theet sleuths, it was
in the back of a car leaving Tyler Perry's fifty
fifth birthday party in Montecito on September fourteenth, so it
(06:18):
wasn't even official engagement. It was just leaving a friend's
birthday party. And since then, they did appear in a
video recently, like a joint video talking about the dangers
of social media for kids and what parents seem to
look out for. But it's also not known exactly when
that was filmed, because it could have been filmed a
months prior to its release. And Mega Marco has been
at a few charity events, but she and Harry haven't
(06:39):
made any public appearances together for quite a few months,
and so normally that wouldn't seem very strange. There's two
different stories here, So one story that I've seen kind
of growing in like different corners of the Internet. Is
that they are separated and planning to announce their separation
once like the craziness of Christmas is over. The other
one I've heard, which potentially more plausible, Like I don't know.
(07:03):
People are always these wild rumors, always out there, and
with a story like that, it's kind of like, oh,
believe it when I see it. It's not kind of
like Bed and Jay Lowe, which not to compare them
to Megan Harry, but like that one, you could kind
of believe the rumor is because writing on the Wall, Yeah,
because that one was very blatant, whereas this one. It
could go either way. The other thing people are speculating
is that they could be attempting more of a professional
(07:24):
separation because for such a long time after they left
the royal family and they launched all their business ventures together, like,
they did have a few separate things like or Obviously
Harry wrote his book separately with the ghostwriter and did
the promo for that separately, and then Meghan Markle hosted
her own podcast, Archetypes, so they had two separate ventures,
but apart from that, they were very much seen as
a package deal. So people are wondering if it's more
(07:47):
of a professional separation and they're only going to appear
separately at events to build their own brands and not
have so much of the focus of like where their
money comes from on them being together.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
That makes perfect sense, and I think is probably a
really smart thing to do, because they are very different
people with very different backgrounds, and I think once you
put them together, it can't help it all get very
very kind of judgy judgy. I don't know anything, I
have any insight, but I'm going to go with option two,
which is separating professionally. But one thing that I just
(08:18):
can't get over when I think of these two is
how any marriage could survive what they've been through. I
just don't know how any marriage could survive that much
vitriol and hatred and public judgment and really not being
able to exist as normal people in the world. As
(08:38):
a couple like that would be very hard because we
know now that when they are out together, there's lip reading,
bloody specialists watching them, there's body language interpretations. You know
that every interaction is being monitored, and that would just
skew so much when you can't actually be yourself. So
(09:00):
there's two points is I don't know how any relationship
could survive this, and nothing would surprise me anymore if
they did ann ounceset divorce. Of course they wouldn't be
surprised because of course they're going to break.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Like, in what.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
World could two people go through all of this and
still look at each other and go it was worth it.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I'm so glad that we're together.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I love you so much because there's so little of
their life that he's actually theirs. And secondly, anything they
do together is kind of highly criticized, So I think
they do need to have the professional separation.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
But I mean, I like, I have one fight with
my husband.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
And I'm like, oh, it's all too hard and I
love him so much, but you know, like and I
get one like daily mail article written and I'm an
f grad z grade celebrity about looking you know, fat
and pants or whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
My life's over.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Did that actually happen?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Well, I was pregnant, but it's fine.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Oh, I mean I feel that that makes it way worse.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Maybe it wasn't even daily mail, like, don't come up
to me.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I think that's that happens when you read that while
you're like, oh god, my whole life's over. But this
is like times a million billions, so like nothing would
surprise me. But I really, like, I just can't what
are they gonna do? Laura, Like, what are they actually
how do they exist in a world where they're not
being so scrutinized. I don't know what the answer is
(10:16):
hide themselves away in their house? Will they do that
and then they get judged for it? Like go out
and try and live in the world. Will they I
don't know what the answer is for them to actually
remain married and have a happy life.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, it's so interesting. Oh my god, I'd love them
to film another documentary of where they are now with
the kind of the access we got with that first
Netflix documentary, because that was such incredible storytelling. But you're
so right, like I hadn't thought of that before. Of
like when we see them in that documentary when they've
just left the Royal family and they're hiding out in
Canada and they get the call that all the security
has been pulled, and even before that with Megan Michael
talking about like how bad her mental health was, and
(10:48):
then we cut to them in la where people are
crawling through the back of their house and there's helicopters
outside and they're cutting the fence every day to get in.
They must have been like in this intense like just
survival flight of five lince yes. And so I wonder
what it's like now that, like the scrutiny is still there,
but not in the same way that it was. I
wonder what it feels like in their home now, behind
the scenes, now that the dust is settled, now that
(11:10):
that part of the story is over and you're kind
of sitting there and looking around the ruins of what
you have to rebuild, what that would feel like. I
just always assumed that they were so like I mean again,
I'm not saying I believe the divorce room is. I
think there's way too much misinformation out there, and we
actually don't have access to anyone who's in their inner circle.
And the thing is, anyone who's in their inner circle
now would be so tight in like the secrecy of
(11:32):
their life and what's going on, that they are not
the people who is going to be leaking in me.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
And there's some of these people that are so so
high profile that they would have so much to lose
from leaking anything.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
So it's not going to happen.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I just the one thing I can't get past is
I don't know what relationship could withstand what they've been through.
And if they didn't get a divorce, I don't think
it would actually be because they were ill suited. It
would be because it's been a very traumatic couple of years.
And that's like putting aside all personal not that I
get to have an opinion on them. I don't have
an opinion. I don't know them. That's like all personal
(12:06):
feelings aside, no matter what you think about them. It's
been a traumatic couple of years, and given his level
of trauma kind of growing up, and the way her
family have treated her since this has all happened, I
just don't know how they can. Maybe also, I hope
they surprised me, and I hope they kind of find
their peace and their happiness. But it's a lot for
(12:27):
two normal human beings to withstand.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
So ash On Monday night, I went to a screening
of the New Stand original film Nugget Is Dead, A
Christmas Story, and look, I was a little apprehensive, like.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
I can't imagine why I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Please explain to me why all not apprehensive, but I
was like, I don't know what is going to be
about the titles, bit and turns. But I went with
out entertainment editor Tina Burke, and we both absolutely loved it.
We laughed, we cried a little bit because it was
a really lovely movie. So it's actually the debut feature
for writers and lead cast members of the Zerbist and
Jenna Owen who wrote the movie and also started it.
And it turned out to be this really cute, quirky
(13:05):
Christmas movie about this woman called Steph who's planning to
spend Christmas away from her like kind of slightly broken family,
who also looks like every family that I know in Australia.
I was like, is this the documentary? But when she
gets a call that her dog Nugget is six, she
has to go back with her family. It's kind of
this like wild story. It was really cute. Also just
kind of made me think about how much we need,
(13:26):
like really good Australian Christmas movies. Like I know there's
been a lot coming out over the last couple of years,
like we're starting to lean more into that space where
we have movies that have the traditional Like it was
interesting watching Christmas movie where everyone's in shorts, like they're
eating a pav that they got from Woolworth for Christmas.
They've got sausages on the barbecue. All that stuff is happening.
But yeah, a really lovely Christmas movie.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
It's funny though, even though I am Australian and Christmas
is summer, I don't find it comforting like I am
and people that follow man socials and then we personally
know that I am a fiend for Christmas movies and
November one is when I start and I go hard
and I've seen them all and it's just nothing to me,
is more comforting than a CD E F grade Christmas film. Yeah,
(14:09):
what's strange to me is that I want the snow,
I want the decorations and the eggnog, and I want
the gingerbread and I want the full like small American
Christmas town experience shouldn't be comforting to me, but it is.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
That's all we've grown up with. It's true, right, like
true escapism then because also it feels so wildly different,
like if you're in Australia, you're not having a traditional
white Christmas, or at least from American or English traditional
white Christmas, so it's like that little bit of extra
escapism totally.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
But the Christmas film has really come into its own
the last couple of years. So in the past this
is something we call them like Hallmark movies, like very American.
The Christmas films were not something that we really engaged
in to this level. So our Christmas films would have
been like Your Home Alons and Your Miracle Long thirty fourth,
these were the Christmas classic. Yeah, but I'm so happy
now that the CD E F grade Christmas films are
(15:03):
really coming to the four and I think it's happening.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Through streaming services.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
All of the streaming services have so many now and
has heaps. Netflix has heaps, and they all do have
some pretty questionable plot lines, like You've kicked it off
with Nugget is.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Dead, which is out on the twenty first, so on
this Thursday tomorrow. I should say, if anyone's looking to
watch that cute Christmas movie.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
It's strange though, Like Nugget Is Dead first of all,
is it doesn't scream Christmas to me, and Dogs Dying
also doesn't scream Christmas to me. But here we are
so given that I have seen most of the lower
grade Christmas films on streaming services.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
I've got a couple of my own favorite.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Okay, hit me with it, because I I've got to say,
not to set us off on a bad note or
anything like that. But I can't usually watch Christmas movies
in November. I feel like that's too early, that it
drags on too long.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I understand I must be.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
The minority there, because I feel like everywhere has really
like this week in November is when everyone has kicked
it off. And I also struggle to sometimes watch a
shitty Christmas movie because.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I'm like, I love it.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
A shitty Christmas movie is still a shitty movie.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah exactly. You know, just think it requires nothing of you.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Lb you just watch it on your phone and not
really miss any plot, and it's going to be fine.
And it's so predicted to take your word for it,
and the predictability is comforting. It doesn't ask too much
of you. And it's been a big year for all
of us, and I think we're just ready for it
to be over. So embracing the crappy Christmas films this
early is.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
A good thing.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
So one that I watched, I think this was a
twenty twenty two one called I Believe in Santa. But
the guy looks exactly like Will Ferrell, like you'd think
it was Will Robert's not. And that's another thing with
these degrade Christmas films most of the actors and actresses,
is they use just look like a degrade version of someone. Yeah,
so I Believe in Santa is about a fully grown
man who actually still believes in Santa. And it's a
(16:48):
rom com and this woman's falling in love with him,
but he legitimately believes that Santa is real. And in
that case, you kind of go, something's happening mentally with
this man. You should probably not be entering into relationship
with him, in much the same way as Hot Frosty,
which has just come out with Everyone's Seen.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Everyone's loving with the hot Seaman, yes, but even before
he comes a human, the actual snowman, I'm like sexually
attracted to him. That's not normal. This is why I
can't watch these movies.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Embrace It, babe.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Its Gretchen Wien is falling in love with Ted from
She's Creek and he used to be a snowman again,
Like he's not a fully formed human mentally not that
it's awkward and weird.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Are we on board with it? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (17:32):
We are another big favorite of mine and having Lindsay Lohan,
and I'm so happy that she's getting that good Netflix
money now and getting that good work makeup artist and
the good glam team because Netflix films. She's doing everything.
There was Falling for Christmas, in which he plays like
Hotel Heiress who has a fall while skiing and wakes
up and has amnesia and she doesn't remember that she's
(17:53):
an aires.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I feel like every movie I watched as a kid
someone had amnesia. Like I really thought I was going
to play a bigger part in all of our lives
when I became.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Was huge in the nineties, not so big in the naughties.
She ends up falling in love with the guy from
Glee over Street, Hotely that is an asplete banger. And
then Irish Wish, which was last year that she's also in,
where she wishes that she was she is attending a
wedding and she wishes that she was marrying the groom
(18:20):
and she wakes up but she is marrying the group.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Oh I haven't watched that one. Is that good or no?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
But it's set in Ireland.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
It's so good, like it's almost B grade, though it's
almost too good, Like I don't.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Like what I want. I feel like you can watch
a movie with a silly promise, like so many romcoms,
especially the early two thousands, have ridiculous premise, but the
production value is just so good that it works.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
That's what's happening now, Like I think you've got two
camps of crappy Christmas films. You've got the true crappy
Christmas films, but then you've got the big budget crappy
Christmas films. So meet me Next Christmas, which is a
Pentatonics film that came out last week. The production quality
is so high it could be in the cinema.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Oh, but that's what we want.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
It looks amazing, but then the plot, I mean, it's
still cheesy mc cheese fest.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
But to me, that is everything.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
And then of course today Marry Gentleman drops Chad Michael Murray,
And I do need to make a point about Chad
Michaelmurray because if you're not d've been to crappy Christmas
films like I am, you might not realize that he's
actually made the last ten years of his career around
making crappy Christmas films. He's done Right Before Christmas, Road
to Christmas, Too Close to Christmas, Angel Falls, Christmas, Christmas, Cupid,
(19:24):
The Holiday Train, and Amadaya Christmas and like half of
them are with what Dame Jessica Lownds, who played Adrianna
in the Nine to Two.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Hours, Oh yes, that's an important team up. That's like
the Avengers coming together of like hot teen shows.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
She's done ten with the word Christmas in them alone,
like she is just doing Christmas films.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
So many actors now who were on a big the
thing is they have to be on a big show
and they're not working as much now, So like a
Lacey Schabert or a Tad Michael Murray. There's so many
actors out there, and I've heard them talk about this
in interviews, how they make so much money that they
make almost all of their yearly income from doing these
Christmas movies because there's such a churn for them that
(20:03):
hundreds are getting made. And that's not even like an
over exaggeration because like even just like all Mark Channel
would be responsible for half of those that bad Christmas
movies have become so kind of lucrative that now every
actor is making all their money from them.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
And it's like they would take two weeks to film,
like generally there's like four sets. There's like inside the
house at the place of work, the one Christmasy Street,
and then like one other place. So really like it's
all in Canada because half of them, like all the
extra slash like b cast have all got these kind.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Of like yeah, get a bit of a tax break
from like filming in Vancouver and right now.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
And I could talk about I could have done a
whole episode just talking about this film.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Such is my love for them.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
So those are your crappy Christmas films? If I had
to ask you, like, what's your favorite Christmas film of
all time? Like if we're going big budget.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Well it's so predictable, but it's a wonderful life which
you can watch on Prime videos.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Jimmy Stewart. I love Jimmy Stewart.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I've always loved him, and that is like, that is
really what Christmas is about.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
I also love The Holiday.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I've of course The Holiday is a perfect movie, like.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
It just it really is and I can watch it forever.
What about you, what's your favorite?
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Oh, I mean, the holiday's up there and it's a
wonderful life. So same there. I watch The Family Stone
every single year. Oh it's so loved the family. But
it's a bittersweet for me because my sisters hate that
movie and I don't understand why. So I go home
to Queensland for Christmas every year my family, but I
watch before I get on the plane. Usually the day before,
I watch The Family Stone by myself in my apartment.
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I have a lovely time because I won't let me
watch it over Christmas.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
So it's such a good film.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
And one last one for Christmas is it's very underrated. Yeah,
and Reese Witherspoon and it's just so funny.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Maybe I have to go back and revisit that. I
remember seeing it at the cinema when it came out,
like what like fifteen years ago now or something like that,
but I feel like it never really picked up with
people's interesting.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I obsessed with it for Christmas, and as you can see,
I love the Christmas fils.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah. Well, thank you so much for listening to this
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Speaker 2 (22:12):
Bit with that baby, especially if it's Paul Mezcals involved.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Oh, he's been involved.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
He's been involved a lot recently.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I do follow the Instagram, and I do find myself
having some pervy moments in thinking of you, and am
often of.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Looking at those photos. And we'll see you on mamamea
dot com ju and back here on your podcast feed
at three pm tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Bye, Thanks guys,
So much.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You're listening to a Mamma Mia podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders
that this podcast is recorded on From Mamma Mia. Welcome
to The Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura
Brodnick and I'm Ash London. And on the show today,
there's Look, there's a few new conspiracy theories around Megan
(00:35):
Markle and Prince Harry. Thanks for some new photos that
have resurfaced. We're going to get into that because, as always,
there's more to say than what the headlines are reporting on. Plus,
we're doing a bit of a Christmas movie deep Die,
because even though we're in November and I'm very against this,
there have been a whole bunch of oh yeah, I
haven't got to that yet, there have been a whole
bunch of new Christmas movies dropped and look, some of
them are wonderful and some of them are very, very weird.
(00:57):
But first, Ash, you have some breaking news for us
that you wanted to share.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Breaking news from Camp Kardashian because if anyone was going
to get a Tesla robot, first, we all know it
was gonna be Kimmi. She loves to get on these
things nice and early. So we know that Tesla's got
the self driving cars. Have you seen those around on
like people's.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, every time I see it, every time I see
an instant story of someone who's in a self driving car,
it just it just does freak me out. I know
the car's going to be safer. Don't come for me, Tesla.
I don't know how. I'm not sure about the legalities
around that, but every time I see someone in the
back seat just or like in the passenger seat and
they're filming the car driving by itself, freaks me out.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Freaks me out absolutely. They've also got these cyber trucks,
which are the ugliest. I can't imagine an uglier car.
They're just absolutely foul. And of course Kimmy Kay's got
one of those, so she I think I read that
she got a parking ticket or a fine last week
because the front windows of them are too tinted, so
it's like an legal car pretty much.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Oh my god, I hate that I know this. But
Kylie Jenner has got those tickets as well, because all
the card ashly women, I think except for Courtney, but
all the others like Kendall, Kylie, and Kim all have
multiple multiple cars that they have like separate guys. I
just fall in their big compounds and they all drive
themselves everywhere.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
They do, which when I get it, so if you
take photos of them, I get why they've got the tint.
And also like unless they get into merit points, as
if they care about it, a couple hundred dollars fine,
that's probably built into the cost of the car.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
They're like, absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I can't really can kind of understand an Optimist unit,
which is the Tesla Robot. I don't really get why
anyone needs one of these. They cost between twenty and
thirty thousand dollars. That's what Elon's kind of like said.
So Kimmi said, meet my new friend, as she introduced
the bot, and here's some audio of her just having
a grand old time with her Tesla robot.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Okay, Hi, can you do this?
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I love you?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Oh you know how to do that? Do you know
how to do? Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
You are Hawaiian.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
You're so cute.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Rock paper scissors one, two, three.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Oh you're a little slow, but I beat you now, Laura.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
It does beg the question, given that Nicole scherzing Up
recently got canceled by the entire Broadway community for liking
a trumpy post. Are the celebrities going to start to
ditch anything Tesla related given that Elon is pretty much
the vice president in this new Republican Trump presidency.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I mean, i'd say potentially, But I think Kim Kardashian's
fallen a lot closer to the sun than that, because
she's really good friends with Ivanka Trump, who is always
sitting next to her at her birthday parties, She's photographed
with her at events like, She's been quite open about
them being close friends. So I guess that would almost
be although Ivunk has really separated her personal like her
public life from her father this time around, so I
(03:47):
don't know. Kim Kardashian is just the kind of person
who can just skim around stuff like that without any
kind of pushback in that way. So I'd say she
seems very good at playing both sides of these situations.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
True.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
It's that law degree she got, babe. Yeah, she just
helps her figure out where to stand. I just think
it's interesting, and you're absolutely right. You have made a
great point that she's a bit of Teflon like things
do kind of slide off for a bit. She managed
us to kind of court controversy but not get too involved.
But I just don't understand why anyone needs this robot.
But God bless her. I mean, if it's getting to
the point in her life where she has so much
(04:19):
that some dumb robot it's going to give her five
minutes of joy before she sends it back the Tesla
lab or whatever, more power to her.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
But yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Mean, I mean, I get Internet from Elon, so I
can't talk because I'm all like, I would never get
a yes. But I live in the country, so I
need Yeah, the Elon satellite. He's probably listening to everything
we're saying right now, Hello Elon. But yeah, I don't
get the robot thing. That's a step too far from me,
I think, But God bless her.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
So Megan Michael has been in the headlines again this week,
and what I don't believe it in a shocking is
unrespected this turn of events. At least this time, no
one's riking on her for someone saying that a famous
friends and something I mean about her, or questioning where
the infamous jam is that she promised us, and we
haven't been able to buy for months and months and months. No,
this time, she was on a bit of a glamorous
(05:05):
night out in LA for the launch of a new
haircare line, which was released by one of her close friends,
Katie Lee, who had recently This is the stuff I
learned as I delve into this, who recently hosted a
birthday brunch for Megan Michael.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
So, God, you know too much.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Well. I think the reason I was looking that information
up is that she hasn't been seen at a lot
of events recently, like a handful here and there, mostly
kind of very charity organizations. So when she was photographed
at this hair care launch, I assumed it must be
because she hadn't just because she would get invited to everything.
I'm assuming she's not braving the LA traffic from Montecito,
(05:40):
where she lives and going into the city to attend
the launch for hair care line, Like that's something you
do when you first get into media and you go
to everything.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
It was my first thought why she had a hair
care launch. I'm glad you explained it. I'm glad you
did the deep dive. That's why you're here. Thank you
so much.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
One of you, yes, one of her best friends. So
all the headlines are very much like Megan Markle steps
out for glamorous night without Prince Harry, and then people
started doing like a bit of a deep dive into
the last time that they had been seen together. So
the last time they were seen together it wasn't that
long ago. It was according to theet sleuths, it was
in the back of a car leaving Tyler Perry's fifty
fifth birthday party in Montecito on September fourteenth, so it
(06:18):
wasn't even official engagement. It was just leaving a friend's
birthday party. And since then, they did appear in a
video recently, like a joint video talking about the dangers
of social media for kids and what parents seem to
look out for. But it's also not known exactly when
that was filmed, because it could have been filmed a
months prior to its release. And Mega Marco has been
at a few charity events, but she and Harry haven't
(06:39):
made any public appearances together for quite a few months,
and so normally that wouldn't seem very strange. There's two
different stories here, So one story that I've seen kind
of growing in like different corners of the Internet. Is
that they are separated and planning to announce their separation
once like the craziness of Christmas is over. The other
one I've heard, which potentially more plausible, Like I don't know.
(07:03):
People are always these wild rumors, always out there, and
with a story like that, it's kind of like, oh,
believe it when I see it. It's not kind of
like Bed and Jay Lowe, which not to compare them
to Megan Harry, but like that one, you could kind
of believe the rumor is because writing on the Wall, Yeah,
because that one was very blatant, whereas this one. It
could go either way. The other thing people are speculating
is that they could be attempting more of a professional
(07:24):
separation because for such a long time after they left
the royal family and they launched all their business ventures together, like,
they did have a few separate things like or Obviously
Harry wrote his book separately with the ghostwriter and did
the promo for that separately, and then Meghan Markle hosted
her own podcast, Archetypes, so they had two separate ventures,
but apart from that, they were very much seen as
a package deal. So people are wondering if it's more
(07:47):
of a professional separation and they're only going to appear
separately at events to build their own brands and not
have so much of the focus of like where their
money comes from on them being together.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
That makes perfect sense, and I think is probably a
really smart thing to do, because they are very different
people with very different backgrounds, and I think once you
put them together, it can't help it all get very
very kind of judgy judgy. I don't know anything, I
have any insight, but I'm going to go with option two,
which is separating professionally. But one thing that I just
(08:18):
can't get over when I think of these two is
how any marriage could survive what they've been through. I
just don't know how any marriage could survive that much
vitriol and hatred and public judgment and really not being
able to exist as normal people in the world. As
(08:38):
a couple like that would be very hard because we
know now that when they are out together, there's lip reading,
bloody specialists watching them, there's body language interpretations. You know
that every interaction is being monitored, and that would just
skew so much when you can't actually be yourself. So
(09:00):
there's two points is I don't know how any relationship
could survive this, and nothing would surprise me anymore if
they did ann ounceset divorce. Of course they wouldn't be
surprised because of course they're going to break.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Like, in what.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
World could two people go through all of this and
still look at each other and go it was worth it.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I'm so glad that we're together.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I love you so much because there's so little of
their life that he's actually theirs. And secondly, anything they
do together is kind of highly criticized, So I think
they do need to have the professional separation.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
But I mean, I like, I have one fight with
my husband.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
And I'm like, oh, it's all too hard and I
love him so much, but you know, like and I
get one like daily mail article written and I'm an
f grad z grade celebrity about looking you know, fat
and pants or whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
My life's over.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Did that actually happen?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Well, I was pregnant, but it's fine.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Oh, I mean I feel that that makes it way worse.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Maybe it wasn't even daily mail, like, don't come up
to me.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I think that's that happens when you read that while
you're like, oh god, my whole life's over. But this
is like times a million billions, so like nothing would
surprise me. But I really, like, I just can't what
are they gonna do? Laura, Like, what are they actually
how do they exist in a world where they're not
being so scrutinized. I don't know what the answer is
(10:16):
hide themselves away in their house? Will they do that
and then they get judged for it? Like go out
and try and live in the world. Will they I
don't know what the answer is for them to actually
remain married and have a happy life.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, it's so interesting. Oh my god, I'd love them
to film another documentary of where they are now with
the kind of the access we got with that first
Netflix documentary, because that was such incredible storytelling. But you're
so right, like I hadn't thought of that before. Of
like when we see them in that documentary when they've
just left the Royal family and they're hiding out in
Canada and they get the call that all the security
has been pulled, and even before that with Megan Michael
talking about like how bad her mental health was, and
(10:48):
then we cut to them in la where people are
crawling through the back of their house and there's helicopters
outside and they're cutting the fence every day to get in.
They must have been like in this intense like just
survival flight of five lince yes. And so I wonder
what it's like now that, like the scrutiny is still there,
but not in the same way that it was. I
wonder what it feels like in their home now, behind
the scenes, now that the dust is settled, now that
(11:10):
that part of the story is over and you're kind
of sitting there and looking around the ruins of what
you have to rebuild, what that would feel like. I
just always assumed that they were so like I mean again,
I'm not saying I believe the divorce room is. I
think there's way too much misinformation out there, and we
actually don't have access to anyone who's in their inner circle.
And the thing is, anyone who's in their inner circle
now would be so tight in like the secrecy of
(11:32):
their life and what's going on, that they are not
the people who is going to be leaking in me.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
And there's some of these people that are so so
high profile that they would have so much to lose
from leaking anything.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
So it's not going to happen.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I just the one thing I can't get past is
I don't know what relationship could withstand what they've been through.
And if they didn't get a divorce, I don't think
it would actually be because they were ill suited. It
would be because it's been a very traumatic couple of years.
And that's like putting aside all personal not that I
get to have an opinion on them. I don't have
an opinion. I don't know them. That's like all personal
(12:06):
feelings aside, no matter what you think about them. It's
been a traumatic couple of years, and given his level
of trauma kind of growing up, and the way her
family have treated her since this has all happened, I
just don't know how they can. Maybe also, I hope
they surprised me, and I hope they kind of find
their peace and their happiness. But it's a lot for
(12:27):
two normal human beings to withstand.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
So ash On Monday night, I went to a screening
of the New Stand original film Nugget Is Dead, A
Christmas Story, and look, I was a little apprehensive, like.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
I can't imagine why I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Please explain to me why all not apprehensive, but I
was like, I don't know what is going to be
about the titles, bit and turns. But I went with
out entertainment editor Tina Burke, and we both absolutely loved it.
We laughed, we cried a little bit because it was
a really lovely movie. So it's actually the debut feature
for writers and lead cast members of the Zerbist and
Jenna Owen who wrote the movie and also started it.
And it turned out to be this really cute, quirky
(13:05):
Christmas movie about this woman called Steph who's planning to
spend Christmas away from her like kind of slightly broken family,
who also looks like every family that I know in Australia.
I was like, is this the documentary? But when she
gets a call that her dog Nugget is six, she
has to go back with her family. It's kind of
this like wild story. It was really cute. Also just
kind of made me think about how much we need,
(13:26):
like really good Australian Christmas movies. Like I know there's
been a lot coming out over the last couple of years,
like we're starting to lean more into that space where
we have movies that have the traditional Like it was
interesting watching Christmas movie where everyone's in shorts, like they're
eating a pav that they got from Woolworth for Christmas.
They've got sausages on the barbecue. All that stuff is happening.
But yeah, a really lovely Christmas movie.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
It's funny though, even though I am Australian and Christmas
is summer, I don't find it comforting like I am
and people that follow man socials and then we personally
know that I am a fiend for Christmas movies and
November one is when I start and I go hard
and I've seen them all and it's just nothing to me,
is more comforting than a CD E F grade Christmas film. Yeah,
(14:09):
what's strange to me is that I want the snow,
I want the decorations and the eggnog, and I want
the gingerbread and I want the full like small American
Christmas town experience shouldn't be comforting to me, but it is.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
That's all we've grown up with. It's true, right, like
true escapism then because also it feels so wildly different,
like if you're in Australia, you're not having a traditional
white Christmas, or at least from American or English traditional
white Christmas, so it's like that little bit of extra
escapism totally.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
But the Christmas film has really come into its own
the last couple of years. So in the past this
is something we call them like Hallmark movies, like very American.
The Christmas films were not something that we really engaged
in to this level. So our Christmas films would have
been like Your Home Alons and Your Miracle Long thirty fourth,
these were the Christmas classic. Yeah, but I'm so happy
now that the CD E F grade Christmas films are
(15:03):
really coming to the four and I think it's happening.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Through streaming services.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
All of the streaming services have so many now and
has heaps. Netflix has heaps, and they all do have
some pretty questionable plot lines, like You've kicked it off
with Nugget is.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Dead, which is out on the twenty first, so on
this Thursday tomorrow. I should say, if anyone's looking to
watch that cute Christmas movie.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
It's strange though, Like Nugget Is Dead first of all,
is it doesn't scream Christmas to me, and Dogs Dying
also doesn't scream Christmas to me. But here we are
so given that I have seen most of the lower
grade Christmas films on streaming services.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
I've got a couple of my own favorite.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Okay, hit me with it, because I I've got to say,
not to set us off on a bad note or
anything like that. But I can't usually watch Christmas movies
in November. I feel like that's too early, that it
drags on too long.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I understand I must be.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
The minority there, because I feel like everywhere has really
like this week in November is when everyone has kicked
it off. And I also struggle to sometimes watch a
shitty Christmas movie because.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I'm like, I love it.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
A shitty Christmas movie is still a shitty movie.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah exactly. You know, just think it requires nothing of you.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Lb you just watch it on your phone and not
really miss any plot, and it's going to be fine.
And it's so predicted to take your word for it,
and the predictability is comforting. It doesn't ask too much
of you. And it's been a big year for all
of us, and I think we're just ready for it
to be over. So embracing the crappy Christmas films this
early is.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
A good thing.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
So one that I watched, I think this was a
twenty twenty two one called I Believe in Santa. But
the guy looks exactly like Will Ferrell, like you'd think
it was Will Robert's not. And that's another thing with
these degrade Christmas films most of the actors and actresses,
is they use just look like a degrade version of someone. Yeah,
so I Believe in Santa is about a fully grown
man who actually still believes in Santa. And it's a
(16:48):
rom com and this woman's falling in love with him,
but he legitimately believes that Santa is real. And in
that case, you kind of go, something's happening mentally with
this man. You should probably not be entering into relationship
with him, in much the same way as Hot Frosty,
which has just come out with Everyone's Seen.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Everyone's loving with the hot Seaman, yes, but even before
he comes a human, the actual snowman, I'm like sexually
attracted to him. That's not normal. This is why I
can't watch these movies.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Embrace It, babe.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Its Gretchen Wien is falling in love with Ted from
She's Creek and he used to be a snowman again,
Like he's not a fully formed human mentally not that
it's awkward and weird.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Are we on board with it? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (17:32):
We are another big favorite of mine and having Lindsay Lohan,
and I'm so happy that she's getting that good Netflix
money now and getting that good work makeup artist and
the good glam team because Netflix films. She's doing everything.
There was Falling for Christmas, in which he plays like
Hotel Heiress who has a fall while skiing and wakes
up and has amnesia and she doesn't remember that she's
(17:53):
an aires.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I feel like every movie I watched as a kid
someone had amnesia. Like I really thought I was going
to play a bigger part in all of our lives
when I became.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Was huge in the nineties, not so big in the naughties.
She ends up falling in love with the guy from
Glee over Street, Hotely that is an asplete banger. And
then Irish Wish, which was last year that she's also in,
where she wishes that she was she is attending a
wedding and she wishes that she was marrying the groom
(18:20):
and she wakes up but she is marrying the group.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Oh I haven't watched that one. Is that good or no?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
But it's set in Ireland.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
It's so good, like it's almost B grade, though it's
almost too good, Like I don't.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Like what I want. I feel like you can watch
a movie with a silly promise, like so many romcoms,
especially the early two thousands, have ridiculous premise, but the
production value is just so good that it works.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
That's what's happening now, Like I think you've got two
camps of crappy Christmas films. You've got the true crappy
Christmas films, but then you've got the big budget crappy
Christmas films. So meet me Next Christmas, which is a
Pentatonics film that came out last week. The production quality
is so high it could be in the cinema.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Oh, but that's what we want.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
It looks amazing, but then the plot, I mean, it's
still cheesy mc cheese fest.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
But to me, that is everything.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
And then of course today Marry Gentleman drops Chad Michael Murray,
And I do need to make a point about Chad
Michaelmurray because if you're not d've been to crappy Christmas
films like I am, you might not realize that he's
actually made the last ten years of his career around
making crappy Christmas films. He's done Right Before Christmas, Road
to Christmas, Too Close to Christmas, Angel Falls, Christmas, Christmas, Cupid,
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The Holiday Train, and Amadaya Christmas and like half of
them are with what Dame Jessica Lownds, who played Adrianna
in the Nine to Two.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Hours, Oh yes, that's an important team up. That's like
the Avengers coming together of like hot teen shows.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
She's done ten with the word Christmas in them alone,
like she is just doing Christmas films.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
So many actors now who were on a big the
thing is they have to be on a big show
and they're not working as much now, So like a
Lacey Schabert or a Tad Michael Murray. There's so many
actors out there, and I've heard them talk about this
in interviews, how they make so much money that they
make almost all of their yearly income from doing these
Christmas movies because there's such a churn for them that
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hundreds are getting made. And that's not even like an
over exaggeration because like even just like all Mark Channel
would be responsible for half of those that bad Christmas
movies have become so kind of lucrative that now every
actor is making all their money from them.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
And it's like they would take two weeks to film,
like generally there's like four sets. There's like inside the
house at the place of work, the one Christmasy Street,
and then like one other place. So really like it's
all in Canada because half of them, like all the
extra slash like b cast have all got these kind.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Of like yeah, get a bit of a tax break
from like filming in Vancouver and right now.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
And I could talk about I could have done a
whole episode just talking about this film.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Such is my love for them.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
So those are your crappy Christmas films? If I had
to ask you, like, what's your favorite Christmas film of
all time? Like if we're going big budget.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Well it's so predictable, but it's a wonderful life which
you can watch on Prime videos.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Jimmy Stewart. I love Jimmy Stewart.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I've always loved him, and that is like, that is
really what Christmas is about.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
I also love The Holiday.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I've of course The Holiday is a perfect movie, like.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
It just it really is and I can watch it forever.
What about you, what's your favorite?
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Oh, I mean, the holiday's up there and it's a
wonderful life. So same there. I watch The Family Stone
every single year. Oh it's so loved the family. But
it's a bittersweet for me because my sisters hate that
movie and I don't understand why. So I go home
to Queensland for Christmas every year my family, but I
watch before I get on the plane. Usually the day before,
I watch The Family Stone by myself in my apartment.
(21:32):
I have a lovely time because I won't let me
watch it over Christmas.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
So it's such a good film.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
And one last one for Christmas is it's very underrated. Yeah,
and Reese Witherspoon and it's just so funny.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Maybe I have to go back and revisit that. I
remember seeing it at the cinema when it came out,
like what like fifteen years ago now or something like that,
but I feel like it never really picked up with
people's interesting.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I obsessed with it for Christmas, and as you can see,
I love the Christmas fils.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah. Well, thank you so much for listening to this
spill today. And if you're not following us on Instagram,
we should hop on over there because as previously stated,
that's what we post a lot about, behind the scenes content,
extra content, and at the moment, just a lot of
sexy photos of celebs on red cars, you know, because
we're just a little just a little.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Bit with that baby, especially if it's Paul Mezcals involved.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Oh, he's been involved.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
He's been involved a lot recently.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I do follow the Instagram, and I do find myself
having some pervy moments in thinking of you, and am
often of.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Looking at those photos. And we'll see you on mamamea
dot com ju and back here on your podcast feed
at three pm tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Bye, Thanks guys,
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