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Speaker 1 (00:11):
So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia
acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that this
podcast is recorded on From Mamma Mia.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I'm m Burnham and I'm Laura Brodnick.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
And on the show today, we are talking about a
brand new Netflix show that every single person we know
is talking about, as well as a big true story
behind it. We are also talking about a very private
A list celebrity who's recently done a big tell all interview,
but first.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Was breaking news last week. Maybe no, I know, but
you haven't been around and we needed to talk about this.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah. I saw the trailer for the new live action
remake of Drummer.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Lilo and Stitch.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I lovely loan you really do, which.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Is interesting because I remember seeing it when it came
out and just being like, oh, that's fine. It was
never a big classic for me, but I think for
some people it's a very beloved movie. And it's since
come to my attention that you are in the top
two percent of fandom of Lelo and Stitch in the world.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I remember when I was a kid and I watched
it for the first time. I was like, this is amazing.
That little Stitch guy is so funny and so cute.
And even Disney Channel released like a series that was
lelo and stilly, Like, yeah, a TV series.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Those were the days, like when a big animated classic
would come out, you'd see it everywhere and then Disney
would do a TV series about it. I'd be Aladdin
one was the best. Oh so good. Was good to
see these little relationship drama, the characters, the magic Oh
bring it back, so cute, and they're all the same
age every single episode, and yet they go through like five.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Christmases and Thanksgiving. It it's so good. So when I
saw the trailer for the live action remake, I was like,
oh no, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Because Disney not a good track record with the live action.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Not a good track record. And I watched the trailer
and actually before a trailer, I think they did like
a bit of a preview and it looked really weird,
like I think the cuts they chose was just a
bit odd. And then I saw the actual trailer and
I felt much better about the live action remake. Obviously,
Stitch is cgi, it's not animal.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I couldn't find an actor to place Stitch. They couldn't
find a real Stitch out.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Didn't find an alien.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yes, the aliens are here, apparently if you look at
TikTok so one of them wasn't free to audition.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Stitch's voice was my main pain point because it's not
the traditional Stitch voice that I'm used to, the one
that I learned and I memorized, and I've been so crazy.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Couldn't talk. I've never heard you talking this voice. Don't
don't start it now. I'm just saying I reckon.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Towards the end of the segment, you should interview me
as and then our social producer Isabelle Dolph. She can
like make like a little Stitch like face for me
and I'll look like you're interviewing not doing that. I'll
be really funny. I think it's a great use of
everyone's time. But however, I did read a piece we
posted on my mia by Katie Powers.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
We're just calling people out by name.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
She wrote a piece I was titled enough with the
live action remakes, and she wrote this line that was
right at the end of the article, and it said
Disney isn't just remaking films, They're repackaging our entire childhood
memories and selling them back to us at a premium price,
and judging by those box office numbers, we're all too
willing to buy. Because there are a lot of people
(03:33):
who are mad at not just let them stay, but
a lot of live actions Ysney films. Yeah, I'm one
of them, and I actually have a really great hack
for those people. Oh okay, don't watch the film.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Okay, Well, I mean, yes, that was for most people,
but I can't use that.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
It's my job, yes, but not Okay, you're like the
two percent that have to watch.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
But for everyone else, one hundred percent, don't watch it.
But I know.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
And also another little hat, Okay, if you really hate
the live action remake, just go back and watch the
animation because guess what, it's still there.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Okay, but I think it's a wider discussion of Disney
churning out live action. That's a bit of new movie.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
It's a bit of a lazy kind of Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I just have found a lot of the live action
really soulless. As you know, I'm a hardcore Disney fan,
Disney classics. I listened to the Disney songs still on
a loop all the time, and I don't care when
people say that's weird you're an adult, because they are
the best composers in the world, the best lyricists, like
everything came together to make this music, and over the
last few years it's just felt very kind of soulless
(04:32):
to me. And I thought The Lion King was a
really good example of that. And I wrote a really
skating article when the first live action not the profess
series came out and I got so many angry people
saying I disagree, which is also fine, but they disagreed
with me, and then they said I started crying the
moment I walked in the theater, and I was like, oh, yeah,
before you saw the movie. That's called nostalgia and memory.
(04:54):
If you're crying before you saw the movie, the movie
hasn't moved you.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Like, I don't think people were crying in the movie
unless they were remembering their childhood seeing it.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Look, the Little Mermaid was quite good, only because that
was just quite a spectacle. I'm seeing the new Snow
White tonight, so I'll hold my judgment of that, but
I don't think I'm gonna like it. But I'm going
with a mind. But apart from that, has there been
a good Disney live action remake? Mulan, But that's different.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
LA movie was great, one of my favorite live action remakes.
And this might be an unpopular opinion. Alice in Wonderland.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Oh they're Tim Burton one.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah. Yeah, that was beautiful.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, but that's different.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
That's you can't say mine is different.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
No, that's a reimagining that total whole new story through
different layers and stuff. That's different. I'm one hundred percent
here for them doing different stories. It just feels when
it's a copy and paste of live action and it
feels less magical than the animation. That's when I have
an issue with it. Okay, but like, if you want
to take an idea and blow it up in something new,
(05:53):
absolutely go for it.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Oh okay, but can we go back to my interview.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I was really hoping you forgot about that. I really
I just want you to know that once upon a
time I was a proper journalist. So this is like
really degrading for me.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I can't believe I actually get to do my stitch
voice on.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Well, we haven't decided you're going to do it yet.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I'm doing it, so you have to pretend I'm Stitch
and you're interviewing me, and you just have to This
is like a great opportunity for you. You get to
interview Stitch like he's not a real character, Like he's
a real person.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Honest. I note the little actress who's playing Leelo is
so fricking She's going to be a superstar. She's beautiful,
she has got the media wrapped around her finger already,
and she's done like one precedent.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
And Zach galavin Akis is playing one of the aliens
get them back? And I feel like it's gonna be
so funny.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I bought Okay, you want to be Stitch?
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Can you do a Stitch voice?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yes? Okay, it's gonna be so funny. I'll try. And
I'm so.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Embarrassed for us right now. I just think this is
like you have a lot to say in like a
year from now, They're gonna be like, why are the spillin?
And I'll be like, I can think, point at the moment,
well we dropped the shark. Okay, Stitch, do you want
to give us like why should people watch your new movie?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Why should peop watch a movie.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
So cooped out? For you right now.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
I put a lot of us into this movie. I
put a lot of some sweat and blood, and I
really hope people enjoyed it. Please, it's better than the animation.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Stick to tell me, what do you think of the action.
That people shouldn't be remaking your story and that you
yourself don't come across great on screen.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Oh that makes me really sad. I think they're everyone
a shot.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I've tried really hard, and it's it's for the children.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Okay. One last question? Who was your celebrity crush?
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Oh that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
My celebrity crush? Here is it?
Speaker 4 (07:48):
You're not in the original Stitch movie? The director the
ice Cream current keeps stopping his iron. He's what I
think I was in the rematch him crush.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Okay, I feel really bad for that. Great, thanks this.
I think we just love for this to be over
right now. Thank you?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Can I come back in the room now? How is
your interview?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
I don't even want to talk about that again. I
wish we hadn't been filming.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
But I wish I got to interview Stitch. That sounded amazing.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
No, there's just no words and I've never heard that voice.
Come out of Emily, and I hope I never hear
it again.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
When we do our Brudley, I'm going to do the
whole reviewer Stitch.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Okay, well we might have a podcast by that after that,
so just wait and see. All right, I'm just I'm
really rethinking this whole episode because I wish we didn't
have to jump from that to what we're going into.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, we're changing up the tone.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Please don't bring Stitch into this. It's not the place
for him.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I'll keep him down.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
So we need to talk about a new Netflix series
that has everyone buzzying and a lot of people quite horrified.
See what a tone shift from the last one that
we've just come into. But you know, entertainment swings and roundabouts.
So Adolescence is a new four part limited series that
has just dropped on Netflix late last week, and it's
one of those shows where, like we knew it was coming,
we knew it was about. But every streaming service drops
(09:08):
so many shows every week, and sometimes a lot of
things feel like they're going to really fly under the radar,
especially at something like this that's a bit of a
hard watch and a critically acclaimed show, but it's just
blowing up, and so many people are watching it and
talking about it because one, it's like excellent TV, but
it also has a lot of people, particularly parents and
parents of boys, very horrified by what they're seeing.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
That what are you're looking for?
Speaker 4 (09:35):
You're making a big mistake, that.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I haven't done anything. He's a good ky Jamie.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I want you to listen carefully. I'm going to start
off with asking you do.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
You know a girl called Katie Leonard?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, describe each other as friends? Then she did? Then
why would you ask her? M So do you think
it would be okay if we speak about it?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I haven't.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Don your group death agree that.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
He hasn't been found guilty, he's been accused.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Eighty percent of women are attracted to twenty percent of men.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
You must trick them because you'll never get them in.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
A normal way. It's crazy. Wait your brain tells you
to do when you're a kid.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I actually was really impressed on how big this show became.
It feels like one of those shows similar to when
Black Mirror was first announced on Netflix. It's so different
to the shows like Bridgeton and stuff, where there's so
much hyper before the show starts, like you see the
massive cast. You see this whole new concept, and this
one kind of slipped under the radar and yet was
(10:53):
like massive, which is so interesting. I also heard it
was all filmed in one shot.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, so it's four episodes and they almost come across
like in real time of watching it, and each one
is filmed in one long, continuous and very unflinching shot.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
How do they do that?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Which is just with a handhow camera? Pretty much?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And then if they mess up there have to start
the whole thing again.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I mean pretty much. I know it's incredible, and obviously
with a long shot like that, you can do some
sort of editing and stuff, but you're not getting all
these different perspectives because normally, if you're like on a
film set and you're watching something be filmed, there's so
many different cameras and then like if we were getting
film right now, like someone would be filming my shot,
and then we'd refilm your shot, and then someone will
also be filming us across the room, so we'd have
(11:34):
ten different angles we could use and cut between, whereas
it's just this one angle. So not so much that
it's being film live, but more so that's one angle,
and it's centered on this boy. So yes, as I'm
saying this, four episodes, which kind of just feels like enough,
you know what I mean, Like it's a great story,
but I think my nerves would have been shot to
shit after more than four episodes. And it tells the
story of this thirteen year old boy called Jamie. And
(11:56):
the first episode is the police bursting into his home.
That said in the UK, his family are just you know,
there's just a normal suburban family going about their life
and their home. Police burst in, guns, detectives. The family
is screaming the word to do and then they center
on this young boy in his room who looks absolutely petrified,
tell him he's been accused of murder, pull him off
(12:17):
to the police station. Obviously, the family is like, well, life,
thirteen year old boy hasn't killed anyone. And as the
story goes on, in the first episode, you find out
that there's a young girl from his school who has
been murdered. And it's not really a spoiler because it's
about this, but he's like obviously implicated in it. And
then the rest of the episode show the fallout and
how it's happened and how it's affecting everyone and like
(12:39):
kind of it's pretty.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Much obvious that he is guilty. Well, yeah, they tell
you in the first time, right, And then the show
is about his family and how they're dealing with.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, it's like the aftermath, and it's like how what
happens when news travels through the school, what happens in
their family, and also the different influences, you know, what
has led to this surge of like violence and control
and everything like that. So it's really also this conversation it's.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Already happening in our culture.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, exactly. It's so this conversation around young boys and
young men and the different kind of forces that can
come in and how parents relate to it, what they'd
see and what they don't see, and it's this really
kind of interesting network of stories all centered around this
young boy. And so I guess this segment is a
bit of a almost like a MIDWEK weekend watch, like
if you haven't watched this show yet, highly highly recommend. Like, yes,
(13:23):
it's a bit tough to watch, but it's just really
great TV. And the other part of it is to
kind of talk about where this came from, because when
it first came out. Everyone was saying, this is based
on a true stories. Everyone's googling like what happened to
the real Jamie? Where is his family now? What happened?
And the creators of the show have come out and said,
it's not based on one single story and this is
actually way more terrifying. I thought then it being based
(13:45):
on one young boy who did something, It's actually based
on several real life stories of young boys committing violence
against young girls and what's led to that. So the
director of the show, Philip Barantini, has said in a
few interviews that there's been a rising prevalence in knife
crime amongst young people in the UK and that is
the inspiration for the series. And they've said there's been
(14:08):
instances of young boys killing young girl with knives and
they found it really upsetting and they wanted to dive into,
like what if we took all these stories, put into
one character, fictionalized it a bit, but kind of looked
into what led to it and what the fallout was
and what is happening to these young men to see
such a rise, Like is it to do with their parenting?
Is it the peers? Is it the internet? Is it
(14:29):
social media? And you know, I guess it's kind of
like a factor of accommodation. But yeah, so there are
real life stories of young men like murdering or attacking
young girls.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
And I guess also what happens in the legal system
when the perpetrator is underage.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Yeah, exactly, like a thirteen year old saying like, you know,
this is what happened, or you know this is what
led to this would be very different to trying an adult.
But it's very chilling to watch too, because like you
think there'd be like a sense of innocence, but there's
not really that in the show. So yeah, it's also
just really interesting storytelling. And I think as we're sort
of in this huge turn of content at the moment
(15:03):
where we're getting like twenty different shows across like twenty
different streamers every week, it can be really hard for
something like this that's so original but like doesn't have
any big names, it doesn't have any of those kind
of things for it to push through. And I think
the fact that this has is like testament. It's like
when Baby Reindeer pushed through it and a lot of
people were just like, oh, like on paper, this really
(15:24):
shouldn't have had the huge effect that it had, but
a lot of the time people just want that type
of storytelling that makes them feel uncomfortable. But it's also
like taking a big swing and it's not a remake
and it's not a reimagining and it's not I mean
there's a place for those as well, but there's a
place for original stories.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
I also think British TV is just its own Yeah,
so good.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
So incredible. So Adolescence is on Netflix. As we said,
it's some people are finding it very upsetting, but like,
if you're in a headspace to watch it, well worth watching.
So you might have.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Heard of an actress named Scarlett Johanson. Have you heard
of her once or twice? She's recently done an exclusive
interview with in Style, And this is not something that
I would usually be super paw it to talk about.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yeah, you brought this, and one's like when need to
talk about this? I'm like blown away.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I still haven't figured it out. I've read the whole
interview about three times now, and it's one of those
interviews where with Scarlet Jeer Hansen, I obviously knew her,
but I wasn't like obsessed with her or loved her.
Like if I would watch a movie that she's in
and I'd be like, oh, Scarlet of Hanson's in this,
like everyone knows her, she's a big actress. And then
after reading this interview, like she's all I can think about, like,
(16:36):
I think she's now like one of my favorite celebrities ever.
She just seems like one of those celebrities where I
would categorize as like a celebrity that my mom.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Likes, okay, hurtful things. She's only well, she's okay, she
just turned forty.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Like I like categorize her with like an Angelina Joe
Lee and a Jennifer Anisteid and anyone else. Brad pitters
dated essentially.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
But you're a Marvel fan.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I'm a Marvel so that's where like, I'm a fan.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Why is she only for your mom? But for me?
Even against Evelyn, she's obviously another.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Thing against Scolet, you Hanson. I feel like I'm actually
shitting on her right now. Even with Marvel, I would
be like, oh, I love Marvel, and like Colet Jerhnson's
in it, I wouldn't be like, oh my god, yes,
Scarlet of Hanson, you know what I mean. And then
I read this interview, and I just have like this
whole new appreciation of her, even though the interview she
didn't really say that much. So Scarlett Johnson is, I
(17:25):
found out in this injurview the second highest grossing actor
in the entire world, and like not just women, like
out of all the actors. So she's right behind Samuel L.
Jackson and behind her is Robert Danny Junior. So basically
the entire Avengers cast. Yeah, they got paid some big bucks.
What I found really interesting about her is that she
talked a lot about the fact that she doesn't actually
take photos with fans in public, which is like my
(17:48):
biggest fear is seeing a celebrity in public and then
getting rejected by them. So I'm glad she made this.
She told everyone I never go to her, never got
up to her. And she said this line that has
been taken and like quoted everywhere, Like if you look
on Twitter, this was trending in the morning, it's everywhere.
And she said, it's the funniest thing ever. And I die.
She said this to my faith, but she said, I
(18:10):
don't I want to be identified as being in this
time and place with you.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
That's so wild of since many people sharing that and
also not that she's saying I don't want to be
identified as in like I don't want people to know
I'm here. Yeah, it's something about like she doesn't want
to even think that you're in her like mental and
physical space that she's existing in. It's very it's not
a security concern. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, no, no, I think she just wants her private
life to be private because she has says that, like
she's very public about other things like when she votes,
so she's like, she talks about her political opinions very publicly,
but it's like the people close to her she's really
private about. And she sees the idea of taking photos
with fans part of work. So for her, which kind
of makes sense, She's like, why would I put myself
(18:50):
in that like work brain, Yeah, because it takes me
completely outside of like my personal life and put her
back because when.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
You see videos of her events, she'll go along the
media line take photos. But I guess that's I always
think that's very fair with celebrities because they're at work,
whereas if you're walking down the street and someone grabs you.
It's interesting and saying about her being a private person
because she is one of the biggest stars in the
world and the highest paid, and there's never really any
headlines or like very few about her personal life. But
(19:16):
when you actually look at her personal life, like not
so much it's scandalous. But I see other famous women
be raped over the coals for the same thing that
she's done. But maybe because I don't know, because she's
so private about it. But she and Ryan Reynolds were
together for ages. It's just there were no photos of
their wedding. But they always like they got up on
stage and would thank each other at awards and things,
and they'd always allude to this mythical story of how
they met, Like Scarlet Johans would say, like, you know,
(19:38):
my Canadian, like we met this special way, but that's
our story, will never tell And I can't believe no
one's dug that up because it was such a huge thing.
And when they had their divorce and like that did
make headlines, but I think people have forgotten about it.
And it's just interesting because she always talked about being
in a marriage with someone who held her back, and
like that's Ryan Reynolds, but that's such a famous name,
so I think it's so interesting. Yeah. And then her
(20:00):
second husband, Ramon Jarak, Yeah, who she has French show
everything that No.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
I know.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I love this. I don't know anyone else who knows
as much of us Kyle jo Hanson's me. I didn't
realize I was Ready's article. How much you know about her?
But she's been in the industry for over thirty years.
She started when she was ten, so I guess that's fair.
So then she and romand Durak had this like torrid
love affair of like a French journalist with Scarlett Johansson,
and that was never really a big talking point. And
then they had their daughter, whose name is Rose Dorothy Durak.
(20:29):
Is that not just the greatest nails?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
So beautiful? She had alongs in Sound of Music.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, and then they had this big breakup and then
when she got together. Actually, I'm interested in bringing her
up because she's actually dating your crush at the moment.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
That's the reason why I read the You want to
see what your competition was doing. My competition is easily
Scarleton Hands and we're on the same playing field clearly. No,
because I don't know much about Colin Jost, who was
my celebrity crash, and I thought I'd get insight into him,
and then I just became obsessed with his wife more
than him. But even like, because she's like such a famous,
famous person, she's like in this exclusive group with like
(21:03):
the j. Gillienholes and the Leonardo Dicaprios who are so
so famous that they don't need external forces of validet,
Like none of them have Instagram. And she was talking
about how like she has an upcoming movie with Jonathan Bailey,
Jurassic Rebirth. Can't wait for that.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
It actually looks great really on.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
His reviewing soon and she talked about how the production
wanted her to create an Instagram to comprote the movie
and she was just like no, And I'm like, you
can say no.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, she doesn't need Instagram.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, she doesn't need it. She has the entire skincare
line that's doing so so well. No Instagram, no problem.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I also love how the journalist in the magazine article
says it's only you and Brad Pitt who are the
celebrities who have skincare lines but don't have an Instagram account,
And she was like, I find that odd, and I
was like, I don't know, Scarlet Johansson, that's everyone's currency
at the moment. But yeah, I just feel like because
she's weirdly everywhere, like she's everywhere, but she's so private,
(21:56):
and it's almost like she's the one celebrity who can
cancel those two things out because like there's also all
these stories that all the different famous men she's stated,
and then she's been married three times. Again, none of
these things are crazy, But I'm just saying, like other
actresses like a Kate winsletter at Kate Hudson or you know,
any of those kind of also very famous actresses who
have had like multiple marriages get raped over the calls
for it, and people are so interested in their lives
(22:18):
and Scarlet are hints and like I'm sure if you
ask most people like about her marriage and her life,
they couldn't tell you, but they could tell you every
movie she's been in.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
And she also just doesn't talk about it, Like it's
just so interesting on what she chooses to talk about.
There was a part in the entire interview that I
was so honed in on, and that was like the
SNL segment. So I think we've talked about this particular
segment but Saturday Night Live, it's a show that her
husband is like one of the lead anchors on, and
he has a segment called Weekend Update where him and
(22:49):
his like comedian buddy Michael Chay are sitting on a
like kind of table like a newsroom, and they're just
delivering news in a really really funny way. And a
few times a year, what they do is that they
write each other's jokes. Yeah, so they really throw each
other under the bus. They make them say the most
horrific things. And I think this one came out last
year and skar Johansen was actually a guest on the
(23:12):
show and she was backstage watching and the line that
Michael Chay made Colin jo just say, and I don't
even know if I can say this? Can I say this?
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Okay, if you've met this far on the podcast, you're
already uridio. Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Costco has removed the roast beef sandwich from its menu,
but I ain't tripping. I've been eating roast beef every
night since my wife had the kid. And the thing
is is, like she talked about that whole segment and
she was saying it was so vulgar, but she was
like laughing as she says it like it was. She
said it was old school gross. I can't believe they
went there. But what she didn't expect was like a
(23:49):
camera crew to be on her backstage with lights and
cameras just to get the reaction.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
They cut to her in the live show was something
they played later. It's so funny because when that happened,
she looks at the camera and she's like, oh my god.
And it was only afterwards when she was talking about it,
so like the week afterwards, before this magazine article came out,
and she was saying that in the moment, she thought
it was kind of okay, and then she looked over
and Emma Stone standing there because emmistone was doing some
stuff on the show, but she's also married to one
(24:14):
of the writers. And she said Emma Stone was like,
that was not okay, and that's when Scarlet was like, oh,
maybe that was a bit yeah, that was a bit
too far.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
And I think it's one of those things where because
she's so like out of like the cultural loop of
everything that's happening, like it almost like benefits her career
because she can like react like in those like really
authentic ways and she's had so much media training and
she knows how to do it. And even in this interview,
like if you just read each of these quotes about
this part in isolation, like it sounds like she's really
(24:45):
pissed off in this moment, But then the interview has
little starts, like she starts laughing and then says and
it's like old school gross.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah. It's so interesting because again I think on that
fame thing, she's been famous for so long and she's
had some big missteps, most notably with some of the
characters she's chosen to play. So over the years, she's
played a character of Asian descent and she's obviously a
white woman, and at one stage she was going to
play a trans character I believe it was, and there
was so very much anger, and she put out kind
of like a snarky response and she listed all the
(25:14):
male actors who had done that and was like, if
you've got a problem, taken up with them, and then
she later pulled out and was like, I don't know,
I understand, But that became a running joke for a while.
There was like a big part coming up that was
like a character of color or something around like dance
on the phone, which I guess also is it not
just her, it's the filmmakers and her team and everything
like that. It's so funny because she's one of the
(25:36):
biggest stars in the world, but she bops around town
acting like just a little every woman, which I know
some celebs do, but it's very weird for her, Like
why was she hosting the Today Show?
Speaker 3 (25:45):
I don't know, it's weird getting away with it though
maybe that's all part of it, man, that's part of
her trying to see because one of the segments in
the install magazine article, she's like cookies taking shit.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, where they're like talking to her behind the scenes
of the Today Show where she's hosting as a fill in,
and I remember that news came out. I'm like, is
this a joke? Because not there's anything wrong with hosting,
but normally that's not for the AA list actors. That's
like a Kate Winslow or you know Kate all the Kates,
or like a Jennifer Lawrence or someone like. They don't
often come on and do these whole really never like
(26:18):
an A list actress coming on and doing a whole
week of filling it on a morning show and having
to like do little segments where they cook things or
they be silly, and then Scarlet's talking about all the
men that have ghosted her, and it's just it's so
funny because she doesn't need the money and she doesn't
need the exposure and she doesn't need it to get
film roles and normally, so what is she doing And
she doesn't need it because she wants to parlay it
into a full time role. She's just doing it because
(26:39):
she likes it, So that has to be it, right.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
I don't know celebrities like that.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
I know that's.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
WOWD to me.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yeah yeah, but I guess when you have everything, you've
had it for thirty years, do you want that because
live TV is like a challenge or does she want
to do it because she feels like it makes her
this approachable every woman and then her whole skincare line
is meant to be for the every woman.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
That's true, but something about this, this is like what
she does instead of getting Instagram just like I'll just
do it today.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
I'll do one week. I mean to be fair, that
could be the payoff. She's like, I'll just go and
do these little public moments a week. I'm doing TV hosting,
but it's light TV hosting, and then I go away
into my mega mansion and I don't post on Instagram
or anything for the rest of my life.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Oh, Skeleton, Handsome the og girl Boss, you.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Will, I love. I love that you're her newest fan. A.
You're gonna go back through her back catalog. Now, have
you seen Lost in Translation?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah? Ages Ago God, probably should watch that.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I mean, she's obviously done other incredible movies.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I really liked Lucy, which I producer was talking about earlier.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
We Under the Skin is also great.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
I watched that movie. I watched what's the one where
she's the talking robot her?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah, yeah, that's just a voice, Robert. She's great.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
And she was also the snake in the Jungle Ball. Yeah,
she's a good voice actor. I can just go back
through and discover her. Yeah, she's done with Avengers. Sorry,
she might not spoilers. She was really done with Avenge.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
She's so done.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
So if you were like hoping for little like I
was sorry about that. But we'll link the whole interview
in our show notes because we just didn't talk about
it enough. I guess. Thank you so much for listening
to the Spill today. LB, do you mind if I
stroke my ego a little bit?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Oh? Absolutely. I don't know how that's different to every
other episode.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
But okay, I got a few dms over the weekend
and I want to read one of them out to
you because I're all in the same kind of line.
And this person said, I'm a fan of the Spill
pod and we can watch and this week with your
Drive to Survive season seven recommendation, it was perfection. I'm
just gonna say it.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Look at you, the girl a TV grow of the people.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I also wrote about it, so we'll link that in
our show notes if you want to read. But yeah,
everyone wants to Drive to Survive. Have I convinced you
to watch it? Come on? Not even my dramatic reading.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yeah, your dermaic creams. But I had told multiple people
about your dramatic reading and talk to them about it.
So you definitely gave me an opportunity to be involved
in the conversation.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Okay, I'll take that. I'll take that. The Spill is
produced by Kimberly Bradish with sound production by Scott Stronik,
and we'll be back here on your podcast feed at
three pm tomorrow, Bye Bye,
So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia
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podcast is recorded on From Mamma Mia.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I'm m Burnham and I'm Laura Brodnick.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
And on the show today, we are talking about a
brand new Netflix show that every single person we know
is talking about, as well as a big true story
behind it. We are also talking about a very private
A list celebrity who's recently done a big tell all interview,
but first.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Was breaking news last week. Maybe no, I know, but
you haven't been around and we needed to talk about this.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah. I saw the trailer for the new live action
remake of Drummer.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Lilo and Stitch.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I lovely loan you really do, which.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Is interesting because I remember seeing it when it came
out and just being like, oh, that's fine. It was
never a big classic for me, but I think for
some people it's a very beloved movie. And it's since
come to my attention that you are in the top
two percent of fandom of Lelo and Stitch in the world.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I remember when I was a kid and I watched
it for the first time. I was like, this is amazing.
That little Stitch guy is so funny and so cute.
And even Disney Channel released like a series that was
lelo and stilly, Like, yeah, a TV series.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Those were the days, like when a big animated classic
would come out, you'd see it everywhere and then Disney
would do a TV series about it. I'd be Aladdin
one was the best. Oh so good. Was good to
see these little relationship drama, the characters, the magic Oh
bring it back, so cute, and they're all the same
age every single episode, and yet they go through like five.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Christmases and Thanksgiving. It it's so good. So when I
saw the trailer for the live action remake, I was like,
oh no, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Because Disney not a good track record with the live action.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Not a good track record. And I watched the trailer
and actually before a trailer, I think they did like
a bit of a preview and it looked really weird,
like I think the cuts they chose was just a
bit odd. And then I saw the actual trailer and
I felt much better about the live action remake. Obviously,
Stitch is cgi, it's not animal.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I couldn't find an actor to place Stitch. They couldn't
find a real Stitch out.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Didn't find an alien.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yes, the aliens are here, apparently if you look at
TikTok so one of them wasn't free to audition.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Stitch's voice was my main pain point because it's not
the traditional Stitch voice that I'm used to, the one
that I learned and I memorized, and I've been so crazy.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Couldn't talk. I've never heard you talking this voice. Don't
don't start it now. I'm just saying I reckon.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Towards the end of the segment, you should interview me
as and then our social producer Isabelle Dolph. She can
like make like a little Stitch like face for me
and I'll look like you're interviewing not doing that. I'll
be really funny. I think it's a great use of
everyone's time. But however, I did read a piece we
posted on my mia by Katie Powers.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
We're just calling people out by name.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
She wrote a piece I was titled enough with the
live action remakes, and she wrote this line that was
right at the end of the article, and it said
Disney isn't just remaking films, They're repackaging our entire childhood
memories and selling them back to us at a premium price,
and judging by those box office numbers, we're all too
willing to buy. Because there are a lot of people
(03:33):
who are mad at not just let them stay, but
a lot of live actions Ysney films. Yeah, I'm one
of them, and I actually have a really great hack
for those people. Oh okay, don't watch the film.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Okay, Well, I mean, yes, that was for most people,
but I can't use that.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
It's my job, yes, but not Okay, you're like the
two percent that have to watch.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
But for everyone else, one hundred percent, don't watch it.
But I know.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
And also another little hat, Okay, if you really hate
the live action remake, just go back and watch the
animation because guess what, it's still there.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Okay, but I think it's a wider discussion of Disney
churning out live action. That's a bit of new movie.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
It's a bit of a lazy kind of Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I just have found a lot of the live action
really soulless. As you know, I'm a hardcore Disney fan,
Disney classics. I listened to the Disney songs still on
a loop all the time, and I don't care when
people say that's weird you're an adult, because they are
the best composers in the world, the best lyricists, like
everything came together to make this music, and over the
last few years it's just felt very kind of soulless
(04:32):
to me. And I thought The Lion King was a
really good example of that. And I wrote a really
skating article when the first live action not the profess
series came out and I got so many angry people
saying I disagree, which is also fine, but they disagreed
with me, and then they said I started crying the
moment I walked in the theater, and I was like, oh, yeah,
before you saw the movie. That's called nostalgia and memory.
(04:54):
If you're crying before you saw the movie, the movie
hasn't moved you.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Like, I don't think people were crying in the movie
unless they were remembering their childhood seeing it.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Look, the Little Mermaid was quite good, only because that
was just quite a spectacle. I'm seeing the new Snow
White tonight, so I'll hold my judgment of that, but
I don't think I'm gonna like it. But I'm going
with a mind. But apart from that, has there been
a good Disney live action remake? Mulan, But that's different.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
LA movie was great, one of my favorite live action remakes.
And this might be an unpopular opinion. Alice in Wonderland.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Oh they're Tim Burton one.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah. Yeah, that was beautiful.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, but that's different.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
That's you can't say mine is different.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
No, that's a reimagining that total whole new story through
different layers and stuff. That's different. I'm one hundred percent
here for them doing different stories. It just feels when
it's a copy and paste of live action and it
feels less magical than the animation. That's when I have
an issue with it. Okay, but like, if you want
to take an idea and blow it up in something new,
(05:53):
absolutely go for it.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Oh okay, but can we go back to my interview.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I was really hoping you forgot about that. I really
I just want you to know that once upon a
time I was a proper journalist. So this is like
really degrading for me.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I can't believe I actually get to do my stitch
voice on.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Well, we haven't decided you're going to do it yet.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I'm doing it, so you have to pretend I'm Stitch
and you're interviewing me, and you just have to This
is like a great opportunity for you. You get to
interview Stitch like he's not a real character, Like he's
a real person.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Honest. I note the little actress who's playing Leelo is
so fricking She's going to be a superstar. She's beautiful,
she has got the media wrapped around her finger already,
and she's done like one precedent.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
And Zach galavin Akis is playing one of the aliens
get them back? And I feel like it's gonna be
so funny.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I bought Okay, you want to be Stitch?
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Can you do a Stitch voice?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yes? Okay, it's gonna be so funny. I'll try. And
I'm so.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Embarrassed for us right now. I just think this is
like you have a lot to say in like a
year from now, They're gonna be like, why are the spillin?
And I'll be like, I can think, point at the moment,
well we dropped the shark. Okay, Stitch, do you want
to give us like why should people watch your new movie?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Why should peop watch a movie.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
So cooped out? For you right now.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
I put a lot of us into this movie. I
put a lot of some sweat and blood, and I
really hope people enjoyed it. Please, it's better than the animation.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Stick to tell me, what do you think of the action.
That people shouldn't be remaking your story and that you
yourself don't come across great on screen.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Oh that makes me really sad. I think they're everyone
a shot.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I've tried really hard, and it's it's for the children.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Okay. One last question? Who was your celebrity crush?
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Oh that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
My celebrity crush? Here is it?
Speaker 4 (07:48):
You're not in the original Stitch movie? The director the
ice Cream current keeps stopping his iron. He's what I
think I was in the rematch him crush.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Okay, I feel really bad for that. Great, thanks this.
I think we just love for this to be over
right now. Thank you?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Can I come back in the room now? How is
your interview?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
I don't even want to talk about that again. I
wish we hadn't been filming.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
But I wish I got to interview Stitch. That sounded amazing.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
No, there's just no words and I've never heard that voice.
Come out of Emily, and I hope I never hear
it again.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
When we do our Brudley, I'm going to do the
whole reviewer Stitch.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Okay, well we might have a podcast by that after that,
so just wait and see. All right, I'm just I'm
really rethinking this whole episode because I wish we didn't
have to jump from that to what we're going into.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, we're changing up the tone.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Please don't bring Stitch into this. It's not the place
for him.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I'll keep him down.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
So we need to talk about a new Netflix series
that has everyone buzzying and a lot of people quite horrified.
See what a tone shift from the last one that
we've just come into. But you know, entertainment swings and roundabouts.
So Adolescence is a new four part limited series that
has just dropped on Netflix late last week, and it's
one of those shows where, like we knew it was coming,
we knew it was about. But every streaming service drops
(09:08):
so many shows every week, and sometimes a lot of
things feel like they're going to really fly under the radar,
especially at something like this that's a bit of a
hard watch and a critically acclaimed show, but it's just
blowing up, and so many people are watching it and
talking about it because one, it's like excellent TV, but
it also has a lot of people, particularly parents and
parents of boys, very horrified by what they're seeing.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
That what are you're looking for?
Speaker 4 (09:35):
You're making a big mistake, that.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I haven't done anything. He's a good ky Jamie.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I want you to listen carefully. I'm going to start
off with asking you do.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
You know a girl called Katie Leonard?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, describe each other as friends? Then she did? Then
why would you ask her? M So do you think
it would be okay if we speak about it?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I haven't.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Don your group death agree that.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
He hasn't been found guilty, he's been accused.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Eighty percent of women are attracted to twenty percent of men.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
You must trick them because you'll never get them in.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
A normal way. It's crazy. Wait your brain tells you
to do when you're a kid.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I actually was really impressed on how big this show became.
It feels like one of those shows similar to when
Black Mirror was first announced on Netflix. It's so different
to the shows like Bridgeton and stuff, where there's so
much hyper before the show starts, like you see the
massive cast. You see this whole new concept, and this
one kind of slipped under the radar and yet was
(10:53):
like massive, which is so interesting. I also heard it
was all filmed in one shot.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, so it's four episodes and they almost come across
like in real time of watching it, and each one
is filmed in one long, continuous and very unflinching shot.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
How do they do that?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Which is just with a handhow camera? Pretty much?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And then if they mess up there have to start
the whole thing again.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I mean pretty much. I know it's incredible, and obviously
with a long shot like that, you can do some
sort of editing and stuff, but you're not getting all
these different perspectives because normally, if you're like on a
film set and you're watching something be filmed, there's so
many different cameras and then like if we were getting
film right now, like someone would be filming my shot,
and then we'd refilm your shot, and then someone will
also be filming us across the room, so we'd have
(11:34):
ten different angles we could use and cut between, whereas
it's just this one angle. So not so much that
it's being film live, but more so that's one angle,
and it's centered on this boy. So yes, as I'm
saying this, four episodes, which kind of just feels like enough,
you know what I mean, Like it's a great story,
but I think my nerves would have been shot to
shit after more than four episodes. And it tells the
story of this thirteen year old boy called Jamie. And
(11:56):
the first episode is the police bursting into his home.
That said in the UK, his family are just you know,
there's just a normal suburban family going about their life
and their home. Police burst in, guns, detectives. The family
is screaming the word to do and then they center
on this young boy in his room who looks absolutely petrified,
tell him he's been accused of murder, pull him off
(12:17):
to the police station. Obviously, the family is like, well, life,
thirteen year old boy hasn't killed anyone. And as the
story goes on, in the first episode, you find out
that there's a young girl from his school who has
been murdered. And it's not really a spoiler because it's
about this, but he's like obviously implicated in it. And
then the rest of the episode show the fallout and
how it's happened and how it's affecting everyone and like
(12:39):
kind of it's pretty.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Much obvious that he is guilty. Well, yeah, they tell
you in the first time, right, And then the show
is about his family and how they're dealing with.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, it's like the aftermath, and it's like how what
happens when news travels through the school, what happens in
their family, and also the different influences, you know, what
has led to this surge of like violence and control
and everything like that. So it's really also this conversation it's.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Already happening in our culture.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, exactly. It's so this conversation around young boys and
young men and the different kind of forces that can
come in and how parents relate to it, what they'd
see and what they don't see, and it's this really
kind of interesting network of stories all centered around this
young boy. And so I guess this segment is a
bit of a almost like a MIDWEK weekend watch, like
if you haven't watched this show yet, highly highly recommend. Like, yes,
(13:23):
it's a bit tough to watch, but it's just really
great TV. And the other part of it is to
kind of talk about where this came from, because when
it first came out. Everyone was saying, this is based
on a true stories. Everyone's googling like what happened to
the real Jamie? Where is his family now? What happened?
And the creators of the show have come out and said,
it's not based on one single story and this is
actually way more terrifying. I thought then it being based
(13:45):
on one young boy who did something, It's actually based
on several real life stories of young boys committing violence
against young girls and what's led to that. So the
director of the show, Philip Barantini, has said in a
few interviews that there's been a rising prevalence in knife
crime amongst young people in the UK and that is
the inspiration for the series. And they've said there's been
(14:08):
instances of young boys killing young girl with knives and
they found it really upsetting and they wanted to dive into,
like what if we took all these stories, put into
one character, fictionalized it a bit, but kind of looked
into what led to it and what the fallout was
and what is happening to these young men to see
such a rise, Like is it to do with their parenting?
Is it the peers? Is it the internet? Is it
(14:29):
social media? And you know, I guess it's kind of
like a factor of accommodation. But yeah, so there are
real life stories of young men like murdering or attacking
young girls.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
And I guess also what happens in the legal system
when the perpetrator is underage.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Yeah, exactly, like a thirteen year old saying like, you know,
this is what happened, or you know this is what
led to this would be very different to trying an adult.
But it's very chilling to watch too, because like you
think there'd be like a sense of innocence, but there's
not really that in the show. So yeah, it's also
just really interesting storytelling. And I think as we're sort
of in this huge turn of content at the moment
(15:03):
where we're getting like twenty different shows across like twenty
different streamers every week, it can be really hard for
something like this that's so original but like doesn't have
any big names, it doesn't have any of those kind
of things for it to push through. And I think
the fact that this has is like testament. It's like
when Baby Reindeer pushed through it and a lot of
people were just like, oh, like on paper, this really
(15:24):
shouldn't have had the huge effect that it had, but
a lot of the time people just want that type
of storytelling that makes them feel uncomfortable. But it's also
like taking a big swing and it's not a remake
and it's not a reimagining and it's not I mean
there's a place for those as well, but there's a
place for original stories.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
I also think British TV is just its own Yeah,
so good.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
So incredible. So Adolescence is on Netflix. As we said,
it's some people are finding it very upsetting, but like,
if you're in a headspace to watch it, well worth watching.
So you might have.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Heard of an actress named Scarlett Johanson. Have you heard
of her once or twice? She's recently done an exclusive
interview with in Style, And this is not something that
I would usually be super paw it to talk about.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yeah, you brought this, and one's like when need to
talk about this? I'm like blown away.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I still haven't figured it out. I've read the whole
interview about three times now, and it's one of those
interviews where with Scarlet Jeer Hansen, I obviously knew her,
but I wasn't like obsessed with her or loved her.
Like if I would watch a movie that she's in
and I'd be like, oh, Scarlet of Hanson's in this,
like everyone knows her, she's a big actress. And then
after reading this interview, like she's all I can think about, like,
(16:36):
I think she's now like one of my favorite celebrities ever.
She just seems like one of those celebrities where I
would categorize as like a celebrity that my mom.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Likes, okay, hurtful things. She's only well, she's okay, she
just turned forty.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Like I like categorize her with like an Angelina Joe
Lee and a Jennifer Anisteid and anyone else. Brad pitters
dated essentially.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
But you're a Marvel fan.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I'm a Marvel so that's where like, I'm a fan.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Why is she only for your mom? But for me?
Even against Evelyn, she's obviously another.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Thing against Scolet, you Hanson. I feel like I'm actually
shitting on her right now. Even with Marvel, I would
be like, oh, I love Marvel, and like Colet Jerhnson's
in it, I wouldn't be like, oh my god, yes,
Scarlet of Hanson, you know what I mean. And then
I read this interview, and I just have like this
whole new appreciation of her, even though the interview she
didn't really say that much. So Scarlett Johnson is, I
(17:25):
found out in this injurview the second highest grossing actor
in the entire world, and like not just women, like
out of all the actors. So she's right behind Samuel L.
Jackson and behind her is Robert Danny Junior. So basically
the entire Avengers cast. Yeah, they got paid some big bucks.
What I found really interesting about her is that she
talked a lot about the fact that she doesn't actually
take photos with fans in public, which is like my
(17:48):
biggest fear is seeing a celebrity in public and then
getting rejected by them. So I'm glad she made this.
She told everyone I never go to her, never got
up to her. And she said this line that has
been taken and like quoted everywhere, Like if you look
on Twitter, this was trending in the morning, it's everywhere.
And she said, it's the funniest thing ever. And I die.
She said this to my faith, but she said, I
(18:10):
don't I want to be identified as being in this
time and place with you.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
That's so wild of since many people sharing that and
also not that she's saying I don't want to be
identified as in like I don't want people to know
I'm here. Yeah, it's something about like she doesn't want
to even think that you're in her like mental and
physical space that she's existing in. It's very it's not
a security concern. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, no, no, I think she just wants her private
life to be private because she has says that, like
she's very public about other things like when she votes,
so she's like, she talks about her political opinions very publicly,
but it's like the people close to her she's really
private about. And she sees the idea of taking photos
with fans part of work. So for her, which kind
of makes sense, She's like, why would I put myself
(18:50):
in that like work brain, Yeah, because it takes me
completely outside of like my personal life and put her
back because when.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
You see videos of her events, she'll go along the
media line take photos. But I guess that's I always
think that's very fair with celebrities because they're at work,
whereas if you're walking down the street and someone grabs you.
It's interesting and saying about her being a private person
because she is one of the biggest stars in the
world and the highest paid, and there's never really any
headlines or like very few about her personal life. But
(19:16):
when you actually look at her personal life, like not
so much it's scandalous. But I see other famous women
be raped over the coals for the same thing that
she's done. But maybe because I don't know, because she's
so private about it. But she and Ryan Reynolds were
together for ages. It's just there were no photos of
their wedding. But they always like they got up on
stage and would thank each other at awards and things,
and they'd always allude to this mythical story of how
they met, Like Scarlet Johans would say, like, you know,
(19:38):
my Canadian, like we met this special way, but that's
our story, will never tell And I can't believe no
one's dug that up because it was such a huge thing.
And when they had their divorce and like that did
make headlines, but I think people have forgotten about it.
And it's just interesting because she always talked about being
in a marriage with someone who held her back, and
like that's Ryan Reynolds, but that's such a famous name,
so I think it's so interesting. Yeah. And then her
(20:00):
second husband, Ramon Jarak, Yeah, who she has French show
everything that No.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
I know.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I love this. I don't know anyone else who knows
as much of us Kyle jo Hanson's me. I didn't
realize I was Ready's article. How much you know about her?
But she's been in the industry for over thirty years.
She started when she was ten, so I guess that's fair.
So then she and romand Durak had this like torrid
love affair of like a French journalist with Scarlett Johansson,
and that was never really a big talking point. And
then they had their daughter, whose name is Rose Dorothy Durak.
(20:29):
Is that not just the greatest nails?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
So beautiful? She had alongs in Sound of Music.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, and then they had this big breakup and then
when she got together. Actually, I'm interested in bringing her
up because she's actually dating your crush at the moment.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
That's the reason why I read the You want to
see what your competition was doing. My competition is easily
Scarleton Hands and we're on the same playing field clearly. No,
because I don't know much about Colin Jost, who was
my celebrity crash, and I thought I'd get insight into him,
and then I just became obsessed with his wife more
than him. But even like, because she's like such a famous,
famous person, she's like in this exclusive group with like
(21:03):
the j. Gillienholes and the Leonardo Dicaprios who are so
so famous that they don't need external forces of validet,
Like none of them have Instagram. And she was talking
about how like she has an upcoming movie with Jonathan Bailey,
Jurassic Rebirth. Can't wait for that.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
It actually looks great really on.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
His reviewing soon and she talked about how the production
wanted her to create an Instagram to comprote the movie
and she was just like no, And I'm like, you
can say no.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, she doesn't need Instagram.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, she doesn't need it. She has the entire skincare
line that's doing so so well. No Instagram, no problem.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I also love how the journalist in the magazine article
says it's only you and Brad Pitt who are the
celebrities who have skincare lines but don't have an Instagram account,
And she was like, I find that odd, and I
was like, I don't know, Scarlet Johansson, that's everyone's currency
at the moment. But yeah, I just feel like because
she's weirdly everywhere, like she's everywhere, but she's so private,
(21:56):
and it's almost like she's the one celebrity who can
cancel those two things out because like there's also all
these stories that all the different famous men she's stated,
and then she's been married three times. Again, none of
these things are crazy, But I'm just saying, like other
actresses like a Kate winsletter at Kate Hudson or you know,
any of those kind of also very famous actresses who
have had like multiple marriages get raped over the calls
for it, and people are so interested in their lives
(22:18):
and Scarlet are hints and like I'm sure if you
ask most people like about her marriage and her life,
they couldn't tell you, but they could tell you every
movie she's been in.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
And she also just doesn't talk about it, Like it's
just so interesting on what she chooses to talk about.
There was a part in the entire interview that I
was so honed in on, and that was like the
SNL segment. So I think we've talked about this particular
segment but Saturday Night Live, it's a show that her
husband is like one of the lead anchors on, and
he has a segment called Weekend Update where him and
(22:49):
his like comedian buddy Michael Chay are sitting on a
like kind of table like a newsroom, and they're just
delivering news in a really really funny way. And a
few times a year, what they do is that they
write each other's jokes. Yeah, so they really throw each
other under the bus. They make them say the most
horrific things. And I think this one came out last
year and skar Johansen was actually a guest on the
(23:12):
show and she was backstage watching and the line that
Michael Chay made Colin jo just say, and I don't
even know if I can say this? Can I say this?
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Okay, if you've met this far on the podcast, you're
already uridio. Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Costco has removed the roast beef sandwich from its menu,
but I ain't tripping. I've been eating roast beef every
night since my wife had the kid. And the thing
is is, like she talked about that whole segment and
she was saying it was so vulgar, but she was
like laughing as she says it like it was. She
said it was old school gross. I can't believe they
went there. But what she didn't expect was like a
(23:49):
camera crew to be on her backstage with lights and
cameras just to get the reaction.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
They cut to her in the live show was something
they played later. It's so funny because when that happened,
she looks at the camera and she's like, oh my god.
And it was only afterwards when she was talking about it,
so like the week afterwards, before this magazine article came out,
and she was saying that in the moment, she thought
it was kind of okay, and then she looked over
and Emma Stone standing there because emmistone was doing some
stuff on the show, but she's also married to one
(24:14):
of the writers. And she said Emma Stone was like,
that was not okay, and that's when Scarlet was like, oh,
maybe that was a bit yeah, that was a bit
too far.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
And I think it's one of those things where because
she's so like out of like the cultural loop of
everything that's happening, like it almost like benefits her career
because she can like react like in those like really
authentic ways and she's had so much media training and
she knows how to do it. And even in this interview,
like if you just read each of these quotes about
this part in isolation, like it sounds like she's really
(24:45):
pissed off in this moment, But then the interview has
little starts, like she starts laughing and then says and
it's like old school gross.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah. It's so interesting because again I think on that
fame thing, she's been famous for so long and she's
had some big missteps, most notably with some of the
characters she's chosen to play. So over the years, she's
played a character of Asian descent and she's obviously a
white woman, and at one stage she was going to
play a trans character I believe it was, and there
was so very much anger, and she put out kind
of like a snarky response and she listed all the
(25:14):
male actors who had done that and was like, if
you've got a problem, taken up with them, and then
she later pulled out and was like, I don't know,
I understand, But that became a running joke for a while.
There was like a big part coming up that was
like a character of color or something around like dance
on the phone, which I guess also is it not
just her, it's the filmmakers and her team and everything
like that. It's so funny because she's one of the
(25:36):
biggest stars in the world, but she bops around town
acting like just a little every woman, which I know
some celebs do, but it's very weird for her, Like
why was she hosting the Today Show?
Speaker 3 (25:45):
I don't know, it's weird getting away with it though
maybe that's all part of it, man, that's part of
her trying to see because one of the segments in
the install magazine article, she's like cookies taking shit.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, where they're like talking to her behind the scenes
of the Today Show where she's hosting as a fill in,
and I remember that news came out. I'm like, is
this a joke? Because not there's anything wrong with hosting,
but normally that's not for the AA list actors. That's
like a Kate Winslow or you know Kate all the Kates,
or like a Jennifer Lawrence or someone like. They don't
often come on and do these whole really never like
(26:18):
an A list actress coming on and doing a whole
week of filling it on a morning show and having
to like do little segments where they cook things or
they be silly, and then Scarlet's talking about all the
men that have ghosted her, and it's just it's so
funny because she doesn't need the money and she doesn't
need the exposure and she doesn't need it to get
film roles and normally, so what is she doing And
she doesn't need it because she wants to parlay it
into a full time role. She's just doing it because
(26:39):
she likes it, So that has to be it, right.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
I don't know celebrities like that.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
I know that's.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
WOWD to me.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yeah yeah, but I guess when you have everything, you've
had it for thirty years, do you want that because
live TV is like a challenge or does she want
to do it because she feels like it makes her
this approachable every woman and then her whole skincare line
is meant to be for the every woman.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
That's true, but something about this, this is like what
she does instead of getting Instagram just like I'll just
do it today.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
I'll do one week. I mean to be fair, that
could be the payoff. She's like, I'll just go and
do these little public moments a week. I'm doing TV hosting,
but it's light TV hosting, and then I go away
into my mega mansion and I don't post on Instagram
or anything for the rest of my life.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Oh, Skeleton, Handsome the og girl Boss, you.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Will, I love. I love that you're her newest fan. A.
You're gonna go back through her back catalog. Now, have
you seen Lost in Translation?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah? Ages Ago God, probably should watch that.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I mean, she's obviously done other incredible movies.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I really liked Lucy, which I producer was talking about earlier.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
We Under the Skin is also great.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
I watched that movie. I watched what's the one where
she's the talking robot her?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah, yeah, that's just a voice, Robert. She's great.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
And she was also the snake in the Jungle Ball. Yeah,
she's a good voice actor. I can just go back
through and discover her. Yeah, she's done with Avengers. Sorry,
she might not spoilers. She was really done with Avenge.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
She's so done.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
So if you were like hoping for little like I
was sorry about that. But we'll link the whole interview
in our show notes because we just didn't talk about
it enough. I guess. Thank you so much for listening
to the Spill today. LB, do you mind if I
stroke my ego a little bit?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Oh? Absolutely. I don't know how that's different to every
other episode.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
But okay, I got a few dms over the weekend
and I want to read one of them out to
you because I're all in the same kind of line.
And this person said, I'm a fan of the Spill
pod and we can watch and this week with your
Drive to Survive season seven recommendation, it was perfection. I'm
just gonna say it.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Look at you, the girl a TV grow of the people.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I also wrote about it, so we'll link that in
our show notes if you want to read. But yeah,
everyone wants to Drive to Survive. Have I convinced you
to watch it? Come on? Not even my dramatic reading.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yeah, your dermaic creams. But I had told multiple people
about your dramatic reading and talk to them about it.
So you definitely gave me an opportunity to be involved
in the conversation.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Okay, I'll take that. I'll take that. The Spill is
produced by Kimberly Bradish with sound production by Scott Stronik,
and we'll be back here on your podcast feed at
three pm tomorrow, Bye Bye,
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