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Speaker 1 (00:11):
So much. You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia
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podcast is recorded on. From Mamma Mia. Welcome to this spill,
your daily pop culture fixed. I'm Laura Brodnick and I'm
(00:31):
and Vernon and welcome to our post met Gala Spill episode.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I am tired.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I feel like we were dancing at the afterparties, but
we weren't. We were just working on Instagram, watching all
the pictures on TikTok till three. Well, I don't know
about you. Maybe you have a healthy Oh.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
It was quite stressful, Like I found like that whole
day is so intense, and you know what it brought
on my period?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
So oh well, we know it's all upward from here because,
as you know, your period is really the north staff
of my life. Whether I'm going to have a good
day or a.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Bouda can't wait for next week. I'll be populating, So
it's going to be a great week.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Okay, we'll don't let the film because you'll be looking
on glowy and good.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I'm looking great.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I hope this is what our new listeners tuned in
for Anyway, coming up on the show today. Look, there's
a few stories we didn't touch on this week because
you know, Met Gala took over. But don't worry, we've
had our eye on them because there is a Brooklyn
family feud, yes, happening, and we have we have sauces.
This is our bread and butter. We have yeah, exactly,
we have photos. There's so much to unpack. Also, Tom
(01:29):
Cruise has a very famous new girlfriend, and before anyone
gets too excited, we have some just light warnings for
her of what to expect because we know what's coming
and it's not going to be good.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
But first, I loved how you put that first. So
we was a Megala yesterday, and more importantly, it was
a Metgala after party. Yes, we're similar to the Vanity
Fair after party. We get kind of the same looks,
but more pared down. Yes, I think that's where everyone
people got.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
A bit wild or a bit looser.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
They want to drink, they want to be able to
sit down in their outfits, and they want to be
able to eat. However, there was one photo from the
after party that was history making.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Honestly, my jaw hit the floor when I saw this.
I don't think I would ever live to see such
a thing be broadcast across our social channels. But there
it is, hanging in the loop.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I like glanced over it and then I did like
one of those double takes to my competition through your
phone out of window. It was insane. So the photo
I'm talking about, if you don't understand.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
That, if you don't know the history, you won't know
the significance of this.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
It is absolutely incredible. So what it is. It's a
photo of two major pop stars. Rihanna, who we talked
about because she announced her baby bump. Yeah, still not
as good as a super Bowl baby, but.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, I got to hear to compare babies, except you
did exactly that and yesterday's episode exactly where you ranked
Metgala Baby over super Bowl Reveal baby, which I feel
like a lot of people have had pushback on. They
think super Bowl Baby is the big one.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I don't know about them. Okay, I think this photo
actually makes metcal the baby.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Okay, Metgala Baby's plotting, its pr moves and it orchestrated
this from the womb. I would believe that Rihanna's unborn
child has that power.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
So the photo is of Rihanna with her baby bump,
and there is a hand on the baby bump and
the hand belongs to another very famous pop star. Her
name is Sierra.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Even though knew it was coming, I gasped again.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
So this is the first time that Rihanna and Sierra
have been photographed together since two thousand and eleven. Because
in twenty eleven, something tragic happened that and if you're
all found of both Rihanna and Sierra, it was a
really hard time.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah, a death occurred, pretty much, I murdered. Took place
in front of our eyes.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
So let me take you back. Yes, twenty eleven, Sierra
was being interviewed by Joan Rivers. It all happens at
j Joan Rivers Rip when Joan Rivers had that show
Fashion Police that was a bit controversial. They were talking
about Rihanna and Sierra said that she really liked Rihanna's fashion,
except that she was the nicest when they met. Okay,
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and this is where it explodes. So after that interview
went live, Rihanna tweeted, I'm gonna quote it my bad seat.
Did I forget to tip you? Hashtag how rooted me?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Just out in the world for everyone to see on
her public.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Prime, Rihanna tweeting, like she tweeted everything all the time.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yes, on her she knew that was the platform that
we get the most attention.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Sierra also tweeted after that tweet and she said, trust me, Rihanna,
you don't want to see me on or off the stage. Insane.
It doesn't end there. Rihanna tweeted back.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
That's the best comeback.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Rihanna tweeted back, good luck with booking that stage you
speak of.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Is that not the most brutal thing you could say
to another human being? Oh my god, I just is
like watching a drive by shooting or something like you watched.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
It b Kendrick and drag to shame?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, exactly. Oh no, they could never. They can never.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
So the beef actually didn't last that long. During the
same month, Rihanna did tweet an apology, saying that she
kind of spoke off the cuff because she's so heartbroken
with what Sierra's very fair, and Sierra just responded, we
should chat in person.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, She's like, it's not going to end well. But
also that part of the story never really made it
into the public domain even now, if you'd ask anyone
who's only slightly across this, they only know the iconic
good luck booking that stage you speak of quote, and
no one knows that the extra conversation happened afterwards. So
as long as as far as we know, they've been
feuding for years exactly. There have been rumors that they've
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been on and off feuding.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, there's been a few times where they've like tweeted
each other for their birthdays, but they actually haven't been
spotted together until now.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, but a birthday tweet is what you do when
you kind of have to. It's like old school writing
on someone's Facebook call.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
You're like, that's probably one of their publiciers doing it
full day exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Like I don't really want to do it, but it
look weird if I don't cause a whole situation, so
I'll just do it.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
That's what I think. It's officially over after because I
photo did look beautiful, And Sarah did do an interview
on a podcast after talking about how proud she was
of Rihanna, and she also said that Rihanna messaged her
earlier that year think how proud she was of her.
So I think the girls are good.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I alwaysn't they good. Look. I never thought it was
like a whole like, oh, women are fighting, Mirah, just
like these are two crazy, creative, passionate women and they
just have hilarious public spats for all of us to watch.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Tweeted me like that put me in my grave. Yeah,
us normans are done.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
No, no, we could never even our eyes weren't meant
to see that.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
So that's the only thing I saw. Didn't see any
of the other looks because I was too busy.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Said, once we saw that photo with our Met Galla coverage,
we were done.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
That's it logged off.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Well, amidst all the glitz and glam of the met
Gala yesterday, a really sad story unfolded. And I'm not
even saying that in a joking way, because you know,
my favorite boy in the world who has made this podcast.
We've talked about him since the moment we launched this podcast.
It really helped us, say, it really has, and we've
been there for the highs and lows. It's been mostly
most of those, honest, but our favorite yet to be seen. Yeah, exactly, Well,
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except for his hot Source commercial that was great. But
of course, talking about our favorite Neppo baby of all time.
Brooklyn Beckham, Oh, little baby. Yeah, just out in the
world doing his thing.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
He's like the leader of Nepo babies, I feel like.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
But he doesn't even know he's in the Neo Baby Army.
That's the cutest thing.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
He thinks. He's just on his like little solo tripe.
You'll take up photography again, continue with this cooking show.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Well, that's the thing, because there's been a lot of
reports about this few which you're about to get into.
But you know how they always have to say like
blah blah blah celebrity and then say what they do,
like podcast to influenceer that he'd say, Brooklyn Beckham hot source, entrepreneur,
sailed photographer. Yeah, because that's his latest thing anyway. So
one of the big stories to come out of the
met Gala is that apparently Brooklyn Beckham and his wife
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Nicola Peltz Beckham, well, I guess actually they're both Peltz
Beckham because they united their names so progressive the place. Yes,
the Peltz Beckhams were allegedly supposed to attend. We don't
know for sure because it's not like there's an official
guest list with every single person going. Neither them had
also mentioned going, but apparently sources who were involved in
the met gala say that they were supposed to attend
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and then they were a no show. And the allegation
is that because there's a huge rift at the moment
between Brooklyn and Nikola and his famous parents David Beckham
and Victoria Beckham, and also the brothers, so Cruz and Romeo.
I don't think half the sevens involved.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
He just named every single person involved in.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Family need to know. So as far as we know,
everyone is involved in the feud except I haven't seen
Harper Beckham, the youngest pulled into it, so we can
probably leave her name out of there.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Okay, let's say we're out, but the rest of them.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
So why this has happened is that Nikola and Brooklyn,
who previously have been like super family orientated, like always
in all the family photos, like the Beckhams especially, have
always been an online family like before they really blew
up with that whole Netflix documentary they did that a
lot of people discovered them. They were always posting photos
and videos from like family dinners and family trips and
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like joking around and seeing and David's always kissing and
hugging his kids, and it's a whole It was a
whole thing. And now Brooklyn and Nicola have not been
photographed or seen or mentioned with his family since Christmas.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
It's so interesting because I feel like when the room
is started, when they first got together, that Victoria didn't
like Nicola. They were really ramping up the photos where
like Victoria and Nikola were constantly in photos together just
to kind of like squash those rumors without saying they
needed to squash those rammers.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
And the fact that they actually haven't been photographed since
Christmas as a big family and what I mean, they
have been family photos just without Brooklyn and Nicola in
the well.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I mean, we're seeing photos even this week, so many
photos of the rest of the family, but without Brooklyn
and Nikola. And you're right, when there was that whole
story that came out when Brooklyn and Nikola got married
a couple of years ago, there was that whole thing
that Nichola and Victoria were feuding and the allegation was
that Victoria was supposed to make Nichola's wedding dress. Yes,
and they just said, I'm not doing it. I don't
have time. They went for a different designer. Again, this
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is all allegations, but apparently at the wedding, people got
up at the reception and spoke like all these loving
terms about how great the Beckhams are, how great Brooklyn is,
and never mentioned to Nikola. They were like kind of
blanking her from her own wedding. So apparently I don't
want to think this happened, but apparently she ran out
crying and they didn't talk for ages. But we do
know that wedding was played with drama. Remember they had
that whole lawsuit with the wedding planners, and my god,
(10:31):
those text messages, all the text messages from the lawsuit.
It's been settled now. The best text message there was
when Brooklyn jumps into the wedding planning chain and his
big idea is that he wants there to be burgers
at their reception, but his and her burgers. So boys
have a normal burger and then the girls have like
a piece of chicken wrapped in lettuce, which I find
super offensive.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
And then and he wanted like a little like pink
flag and it or something.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, and then Nicola just jumps in and she was like, please,
don't take these suggestions from Brooklyn. He doesn't understand what's
going on. And then the conversation just ends, so it's
just fair. Yeah, exactly, Well, he didn't know what was
going on. She's playing this lavish wedding with like, and
he was like, wouldn't it be funny if we had
boy and girl burgers because boys and girls don't eat
(11:16):
the same thing. And that was his contribution to the wedding,
that sweet sweet boy anyway.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
And I don't think that went viral that we al
saw from that whole wedding, I know.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Out of everything that happened. So after that, you're right,
Like Victoria and Nicola would post photos together all the time, hugging.
Nicola and Brooklyn would always go like Victoria's fashion shows,
wearing her clothes and sit in the front row. Victoria
went to Nicola's like film premierees when she directed a movie.
When Brooklyn got cut from the movie because he had
one line and he couldn't say it.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I forgot about that.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Oh my god, so much this way feel bad for him,
even though he's in a feud with his family. It's
all happening behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Texting everyone saying, Igno doesn't know what's going.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
On exactly, and so then all that's gone away, and
now the family haven't been seen together in a few months.
And what is really kind of kicked up the feud
this week is that David Beckham celebrated his fiftieth birthday.
He had all these blowout celebrations culminating in this like
huge one. The whole family was there and they have
all these pose like tynesty style, they like a professional,
professional photo shoot, and Brooklyn and Nikola are not there.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
They're not there. So it's really interesting because, as we
were saying, there were rumors that they were meant to
go to the met Gala, which one hundred percent believed
because they usually go to the Met Gala. And apparently
the conversation around that is that they weren't going to
the met Gala because they wanted to spend the weekend
in London with their family, David Beckham and Victoria Beckham
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to celebrate David's fiftieth birthday. However, they ended up not
going to either event.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yes, and the reason why is apparently the feud has
started between Brooklyn and Romeo, which is is a second
son I know more about this family and I know
more about my own.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
And he's not actually good at football.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yeah, he's the good football player and he's also the model.
He's like yeah, it's like it's like all it's like
with the first child, it was like too much good
looking jeans and too much talent, like they didn't know
where to go. And Brooklyn came out and he's just
like it all concentrated in Romeo because apparently he can sing.
He's also a model, he can play football.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
And he plays guitar.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, okay, the jeans in that family are so uneven. Yeah,
something was really a misst.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
That's why hot people should only have one kid, you know, Yeah,
because like you can't have one good sibling and one
bad sibling like me and my sister. I'm the bad sibling.
It's so obvious. It's really sad.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I have met your sister, so yes, yeah, it's so bad.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Like everything, it's a good part.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
The jeans just don't know where to settle. No, that's
a psa to anyone either children, have one child or
ten exactly, so he can like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
He can't have like a watered down like you you
have three siblings yeah, see.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
What you're gonna say, which one got Well, I mean
the Romeo in your family. Well, let's see, I've got
a scientist, a doctor, and a lawyer than me. It's
not me. Oh and the Brooklyn my family, that's so true.
Just listen to the rubbish we're talking on this podcast.
Well that's embarrassing anyway.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
That's why we can talk about it.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yes, we know because we know my family. Also, don't
listen to this because I have real lives. Anyway, Brooklyn
and Romeo apparently feuding because Romeo's new girlfriend, Kim Turnbull
apparently previously had a romantic entanglement with Brooklyn. And when
these again this.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Is I didn't know this. Oh, I just saw the
part where he was like to Victoria and David, I'm
not going to your birthday if she's going to be
And I was like, why do you not like your
brother's girlfriend? Like everyone like, no one likes their brother's girls,
but we all deal with.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Them, right, And I'm like, why are you making this
such a big deal, I know, in such a public cue.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
It was like, I'll have breakfast with you guys, and
they were like, no, you have to come.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
To the birthday exactly. Again, we haven't seen these text messages.
Hopefully there's a lawsuitsight, yes, well again allegations, but this
is always seen. But also obviously something well.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
If we whisper it, then it's not true.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
So what we know is that they were having this
huge blowout party. Which also, if I was Brooklyn, if
I could have talked to that sweet boy, I would
have said, just go to the party. There's hundreds of
people there, quash the rumors. You don't even have to
see your brother. So what apparently he and Nikola did
was text Victoria and David and say, we're not coming
to any of the parties because we don't want to
be around Kim and Romeo because romantic entanglements it's all awkward.
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Maybe they ended badly, maybe something's happened. Maybe Brooklyn said, hey,
don't date ma ex girlfriend. We don't know, something has happened,
And David and Victoria allegedly said, we're not doing that.
That's not how we raised you, that's not how we
act as a family. We're not sectioning off for different things.
You either come to all the main events or you
don't come at all. And so they didn't come at all. Ooh,
and then David posted a photo with Romeo and Cruise
(15:58):
on his like fiftieth birthday camping and fishing trip, and
he's like, the only thing I wanted was to go
away with my boys and have this camping fishing trip
and that's what we've done in life is so amazing.
But obviously there's one boy missing.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
One boy missing.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I also wonder how Nikola feels about this, because there's
one thing for your partner to not want to see
his ex girlfriend, but to make it such a big
deal where it becomes international headline news.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah. And again, this is what we were saying recently
with like every celebrity feud, like the White Lotus feud
and all those sorts of things, is like, you can
keep this secret if you want to, Like you could
post the odd photo, you could tag someone like they
did that for ages. And that's why all the Nikola
and Victoria rumors started to go away. Like you can
put up a public facing kind of facade if you
want to. But obviously things have gone too far.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, she must have wronged him in a weird way.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Yeah, I really want to know.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Like, there are so many girls out there what are
you doing?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Oh, come on, no, he must really like her.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
You don't date your siblings, ex Like that's a whole
other level.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, that is a lot. So anyway, I hope they
work it out. I really don't like the beck comfuter, like.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
What's your ideals to like turn out from this whole? Well,
I would say, Kim and Romeo break up.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Then yeah, I was almost thinking they're so young fish.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
In the sea.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Well, we're just giving dating advice to Romeo Beckham. Well listen,
Cruz Beckham, Like every cruise he's dating like a woman
ten years older than him. So I feel like the
family's also a musician. Yeah, yeah, I feel the family
is like, we can't even deal with that right now.
We got so much.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Maybe they're going on Chris Jenna like distract from that
relationship to make up rumors about this.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
I know, but a family feuds are pretty native for
a family that has built so much of their public
facing life on like we're like a perfect family. We
get along, we love each other. We're just still like
a normal family who cooks and eats dinner in the
backyard together.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
One day to have a nice fifty.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I know, but it didn't so well. It's look, I
feel like they'll come back from boys Newsboys.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
So some other news that came out of the metclor
was a paparazzi shot, which I know we don't dive
into here among Mia, but I have to kind of
describe the situation.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I mean, not a mum and mea but we often
talk about it on the spill and that's just what
we have to do.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
To report the entertainment. So it's a photo. It's multiple
photos of Tom Cruise in the back of a car
and next to him is a woman who's faceless, and
she's faceless because she's leaning so far out of the shot. Yeah,
but it's pretty clear it's Adamas.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yes, it's Anna Daamas. And what's interesting about this is
this is not the first time these two crazy kids
have been photographed together. There were photographs like like six
or so months ago. Now it's hard to be together
a timeline, even though I have been doing that in
my spare time because that feels like a good use
of my life at the moment. Is that about six
months ago we started seeing images of them pop up
just having dinner. But at that time I was one
(18:49):
of the Nasayers, who was like, I don't think they're dating,
Like it's so public. They're at you know, these restaurants
in New York and stuff where industry people often go to,
you know, have business dinners and things. If I'm sure,
if the shots panned out, their team could have been
sitting around them. You know, everyone thought Pedro Pascal and
Jennifer Aniston were dating the other day, and when you
let's not and when you actually look at the full
(19:09):
photos at a business dinner with all of their colleagues,
that's what I thought. But then more photos started popping up,
and it's always recently Anadi Mus and Tom Cruise getting
off planes in different international locations, so they're traveling together.
Apparently they do have some projects coming up, but I
don't think they're flying to different locations to film. At
the moment, it seems pretty clear that she's getting the
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Tom Cruise like first stage of dating, like an international
lap around the world.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Well, she does have a type.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
She does have a type, and she knows what to
do for the paparazzi. Like, full respect to this girl,
because she's obviously been an actress for a long time.
She's been in a lot of big movies. I guess
like Knives Out, that's your favorite love and like, you know,
Marilyn Monroe movie and stuff where not a great movie,
but she was great in that. She's got a lot
of other big projects coming out, but a lot of
people first kind of got to know her during one
(19:57):
of the first big lockdowns in the Pandemic, when she
was photographed every single day walking slowly along the streets
of LA with her co start turned boyfriend Ben Affleck
getting a dunkin Donuts coffee.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
This was before he a sad Ben.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah. Well this was actually his big transition to sad
Ben because and they would walk so slowly.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
In front of the paparazzia. She looked really good together.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
They looked great together. That was the point. I never
thought that Ben Affleck was like the pr stunt kind
of person, or that Anna Diarmus was either. But it
was so blatant. Yeah, And they would sometimes just go
and stand outside in front of the paparazzi holding their
dunkin Donuts.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
It was like she was soft launching that relationship into
a hard launch of Tom Cruise. Yeah, she like just wait,
what's coming.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
That was like her I and then she was like
going for the main course. And then remember when they
broke up and the movers came to like move their
stuff out of the house, and the movers put a
big cardboard cutout of Anna Diarmas in the bin in
front of bet Affleck's house.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Do you remember that about that?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
So he had that in the house and he was
like get it out of here, and instead of like
moving it discreetly, knowing there was like thirty paparazzi outside,
he had the movers put it in a clear bin
out the front. That was a real metaphor the relationship.
He was all said it on fire. Anyway, That's how
Ben Affleck was doing at the time.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
As he still has his dunkin Donuts, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
He really does. That's the true love story.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Of that whole dunkin Donuts campaign to his relationship with Jaylo.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah, exactly, so many women, that's all of this relationship.
That's really beautiful.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Oh it's hers as well anyway.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
So now there's kind of this idea that Anna da
Armis and Tom Cruise like very much dating. He was
apparently previously dating Haley at Well, one of his Emotion
Impossible co stars. She's obviously jumped ship and now Anna
da Armis is embroadered it all.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
And I'm scared for her. Does she do not know
what happens?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
I know, this is what I'm thinking. Does she not?
Obviously there's a huge age difference there, But I'm not
even gonna get into that, because even the scariest part
here is that so many of Tom Cruise's ex girlfriend's
wives partners have talked over the years that we've been
able to piece together the stages of dating Tom Cruise.
So at the moment, she's in stage one, which Nicole
Kidman has detailed to us previously, saying that when you
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meet Tom Cruise, he sweeps you off your feet. It's
so romantic trips, gestures, first class flights, but also all
these huge public declarations of love, like it's like it's
love bombing in the most extreme kind of measure.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Which we also saw with Katie Holmes and the sofa jumps. Yeah, Oprah.
So he is very loud about who.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
He loves, and that's what a lot of people in
the industry have said talking behind the scenes, that once
he becomes infatuated with you, he does make you feel
like you're the only person in the world. I don't
want to say I have like personal experience with this,
but I have. I have met Tom Cruise twice, and
can I just say he does make you feel like
you're the only person in the room when he's talking
to you, because he's so intent on being liked by
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the public and some kind of media unless you wrong him.
Do you know his team keeps a list of every
single person who's have interviewed him and when and all
that sort of stuff, so that if you interview him again,
he could be like, oh, Laura, it's so nice to
see you. I haven't seen you since the Sydney premiere. Yeah,
and he like looks you dead in the eye. With me,
he had to look away up because he's really he's
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really tiny. But like the first time I met him,
I felt this like tap on my shoulder and I
turned around. It was Tom Cruise and he was like
coming to tell the journalists, Like.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
You turned around, You're like, who's there.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I'm not being mean to Tom Cruise. I'm just really tall,
and he's really.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Sure he'd be a bit taller than me. Actually, Yeahara
only just though, And then he went when he wears
his heel boots.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, I know he had lifts on both times i've
seen him, so that's fun. But he's very charismatic, and
he like went across the road and like spent all
this time with fans before he came back to the
journalist ayway, So he does make you feel and then
he really looks you in the eye and talks to
you like he's like desperate to talk to you. Even afterwards,
I was like, oh my god, I love the Tom Cruise.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Maybe maybe he's like a whole charisma. When we went
to the last mission Impossible Premiere, like walking that carpet
on stage like.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
You cliding sinker. Just from watching him a few like
he was just a few seats in front.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Of us, I was like, I want to be your
best friend. Yeah, whatever it takes.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
So what we're saying is not judging anyone, because we're
not a met the Tom Cruise, and we knew all
this prior exactly, like we know the worst things about
that man, and we were still all in.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
So we understand.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah, So that's stage one being rude. I've experienced, you mean,
Nicole Kimmin stage one. The next stage apparently he goes
too far and you start to get the ick. And
we know this from Heather Lockier, who date you know,
the Heather Lockier, like super famous nineties actress. It's okay
if you told Jesus Christ. Sorry, she's a very famous actor.
So she dated a Tom Cruise like way back when
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they were first starting out, and she's like, at first,
so fine, Like he's a really good dancer, he'd take
you to all the clubs in Hollywood, and then he
sort of because he always needs to be the center
of attention, he'll move from apparently.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yeah, imagine like someone asking you, like what's it like, Like,
what's the guy like you're dating. You're like, he's a
really good dancer.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Well, I mean Tom Cruise has danced in a lot
of different movies, so I feel like that's him.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
He does a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
He started apparently his signature move, and this is when
I feel like Heather Lockier got the ink, and I
feel like everyone gets the eke once he breaks out
the dance move. His signature move is to to clear
the dance floor, dance and then drop into the splits.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Oh oh my god. It's the clearing of the dance
floor that would have given me the not really the split?
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Do you think he doesn't? Like he runs and like
kind of pushes everyone away.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
And when you make a circle on a dance floor,
everyone else does it. And then only once the emptiness
is established, that's when you go in. You don't yourself,
do not direct people. There's too much pressure. So people
trying to dance.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I know, but you're like, look at me. But also
it's Tom Cruise doing the splits. I cleary dance for
for that. That's great. Okay, I've never seen him do
that personally.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Maybe okay, maybe Tom Cruise. If he's at like say,
one of our birthdayes, that will be fine.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
I'd be fine.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
If he's at the Oscars. There's a lot of other
famous people there.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah, okay, it can't.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Be asking what Tom hangs to clear clear the dance floor.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
So let's stage Tom and chat. Yeah, please get out
of my way. I gotta do the splits. So he's
wound you. He does the splits, and then he pulls
you back in with some great love making apparently, Oh don't.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
You mean you pulls you into the dado? Okay, so
he's good at sex.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Well, that's coming from share okay, so.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
We can dance and share.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah, okay, on the record saying one of her top
lovers of all time was Tom Cruise and you know.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
She doesn't there's not that many positions they could do.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Well, apparently, whatever it is, it was great. Oh my god,
because there's been a lot of allegations about him over
the years about different things and like you know that
he's like asexual and stuff and all these like oh
you know, but we get really awful and stuff, and like, oh,
he's just like he just dates his women as like
a front to hide his sexuality and stuff. And I
don't know anything about that. I just believe what Share
says because I thought that's what you'll like. No, no,
she'll say anything an interview first, for any celebrity. She'll
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be like, I hate that person, I love that person.
That person and did this to me. And so she
was untouchable exactly. And she was asked who her greatest
lovers of all time and she's like Tom Cruise top five,
even like up there in top five, so maybe even
top up right up the top.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
So good to know.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
What a win for him.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah, well he must be doing something to hook all
these ladies like he's super creepy. I think it's a.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Contract you have to say this about me, and.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Then I think we move on to his super creepy
behavior because you mentioned the couch jumping with Katie Holmes before.
But what I don't know a lot of people know
about that scene is like the couch jumping was not
the creepiest moment when Tom Cruise declare, yeah, I had
I had us write an article on this, because like
the people need to know is that after Tom Cruise
and Katie Holmes are very very publicly dating, he obviously
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won an OPRAH I did that super viral interview where
he jumped up and down on her couch. But then
what a lot of people didn't see if you watch
the full clip, which is mostly being taken down, I
had to dig and dig and dink to find it,
is that he tries to get Katie on the stage
and they're saying she doesn't want to come out. She
does want to come out, so he gets the camera
crew and he and the camera crew chase Katie Holmes
and she's running really and this is like live, it's live, Yeah,
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chase her through the studio and then finally like catch her,
and she's smiling, but she looks terrified, like she didn't
think she was and she's obviously like she's sitting in
the back. She looks gorgeous, but she's like no makeup
and hair done, like just like huddled, like holding a
jump her around her like obviously, it's just like everything
about her body, like you're just like, leave me alone.
I just came to sit in the background and support
my crazy boyfriend and then like go home with him.
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And they pull her out on stage and ton Cruise
grabs her face and like kind of forces her to
kiss while the audience cheers, Oh, the creepiest thing you've
ever heard.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, I didn't like that. I remember that clips so
specific I last talked about it, and it just changed
the whole tone of that entire episode.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah, yeah, No, it's kind of creepy because then we
get into this is what Anna Damus needs to be
aware of. It's all private planes and good sex and
doing splits on the dance floor until you get very
entangled with this man and he chases you with the camera.
So he chases you, the camera pulls you into his
alleged creepy cult where people have gone missing. You all
do I want to talk about.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Allegedly allegedly people have gone missing.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
And then once you become prank with his child, he'll
do some weird stuff like buy a sonogram machine to
have in the house and constantly do the honograms on
the baby himself. Again, this is all what came out
when they were again some allegations kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
And then you have to find Katie Holmes dad to
help you get you out.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
But all the medical professionals were like, you need to
train to use a Sono Gray machine. Like not anyone, no, no,
he knew, he knew.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
He's done all those top movies, you know exactly.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
He's like, I can jump off a mountain, I can
fly a plane, I can do the splits. He's like,
I can work the Sono Gray machine. And so Siri
Cruise came out. She's like, who's that weird man that
keeps kick at me? It's the whole thing. And then
you have a crazy public breakup where you go under
contract and you're not allowed as Katie Holmes and Jamie
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Fox allegedly had to do. Well is it alleged because
it was like a certain amount of years from the
day that her marriage ended to Tom Cruise that she
went public with Jamie Fox for the first time.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
So apparently it was It's true.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Apparently it was in her divorce settlement with Tom Cruise
that she wouldn't be public with any kind of partner
for a certain amount of years, and that allowed her
to kind of take suriy and move away be intense.
I know we went from lifts and so hope listens
to this.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah, and look when it was after stage three.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Yeah. Look, I think if they're just flying around the
world having a fun time, that's great. Do that, but
just be aware of what's going to come next.
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