September 22, 2025 • 28 mins
Matthew McConaughey has shared the secret to his happy 13-year marriage, and one of our hosts has some strong feelings about it.
Plus, when a long-term couple breaks up, who gets custody of the friendship group? It’s a scenario we can see playing out in Hollywood right now following Nina Dobrev and Shaun White’s split and their famous friend group.
Plus, you might have seen pics of Nina’s revenge hookup with Zac Efron, so allow us to explain what happened.And Taylor Swift has a new movie coming to Australian cinemas for a limited time, and now we know all the gritty details of what it will be about, we have a few notes and some feedback.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
So much.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders
that this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome
to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura
Brodneck and I'm Cassemi legidd And coming up on the
show today, Taylor Swift has announced a new movie, but
(00:35):
it's not the movie project anyone was expecting. We have
all the details on that. Plus there's been a huge
update in Hollywood's biggest split, and we might have a
sexy new romance on the horizon. Friends have taken sides.
Hollywood stars have taken sides. I'm making that sound really
serious only because it is. Guys, it's so serious. So
we're going to get into that.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
But first, okay, So this is something that I have
been seeing all weekend, and is Matthew McConaughey talking about
the secret to his fifteen year marriage with Kimilalvarez. So
he's promoting this new book called Poems and Prays, which
is like this memoir of poems and prayers.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I guess yeah, it is all says.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
And he was talking about the reason why his marriage
is so successful, and I was like, Okay, what is this?
So take a listen.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
And I wake up one morning, I'm looking over there
and Camilla is like a football field away man, and
I'm like, and there you go to bed at night
you want to snuggle up, and like, well, we've got
to cover it. You come about twelve feet and I'll
come twelve feet. You're like, man, this damn king says
that's not good with marriage. Man, this get get rid
of that something we got. So we got a queen's
where we shoulders shoulder. I'm telling you it's good for
(01:47):
your marriage.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
In the words of how to Lose a Guy in
ten Days.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Bullshit, I've got to say, because I saw the headlines
before I saw the actual clip or the interview or
anything like that, and I saw these headlines of Matthew
McConaughey shares sexy secret bed secret to long marriage, he
spills his sex secrets with Camilla. And the first thing
I thought was, this is going to be a letdown,
because these headlines are promising me. So Matthew McConaughey's sex talk,
(02:11):
which I personally am not into, but I think they're
cute as a couple and I clicked into it and
it was the most boring thing you could think of.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Okay, I know that this doesn't but the reason this
like really hit me is because I do not like
being touched in bed, Like I will do a quick
spoon and then I need you to get as far
away from me as possible. Also, I have two small children,
and Matthew's talking about how his kids are now out
(02:39):
of the bed, but they're constantly in my bed. And
there is nothing worse than tiny toes in the back
of your kidneys at two o'clock in the morning, and children,
no matter how small they are, for some reason, take
up the entire bed. So it's King or super King.
If I could go bigger than super King, I would.
And as a tall girl and my husband's a tall
(03:00):
man and he's really warm as well, I'm like, get
away from me, you're sweaty, like I do not like
to be touched in that.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, look, I don't think it's the wrong thing to say.
I just think the promise of a sexy marriage story
and then the size of the bed was a bit
of a let down from what I've come to expect
from Matthew. McConaughey because he often has a bit of
like a no filter situation when he's talking about his family,
like for better or for worse. When he said, like,
we've gone from like, what was it a king to
a queen? That much of a difference it it is?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
It is that much of a difference.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
It is.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
But he can't see Camilla and now they're shoulders to
shoulder every night. I would have believed him more if
you said a king to a double.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I mean, I'm not going to go into bed lengths
because I feel like I.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Was going to say, I do think we've heard here.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I feel like that it's just the most boring thing ever.
But Cameron Diaz and Benji Matta actually have separate bedrooms.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Oh yeah, I might way more on board with that,
and I feel like that's how most people would prefer
to sleep.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
I know so many.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
People now who have separate bedrooms. I mean, in this economy,
that's incredible if you can swing that. But I would
one hundred percent be on board with that.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Well, I think we spend the majority of our lives
in our own beds, with our own space, and then
all of a sudden you're in a marriage, and you're
expected to share a bed with someone like we've got snores,
we've got kickers. I mean the other night I accidentally
slapped Dan in the face. So I do think that
it's not necessarily a bad thing to need to have
(04:21):
some separation in a bed. And Matthew McConaughey, I usually
like what you say and your voice is beautiful, but
I absolutely hate this advice and I just need you
to do bet about you Nana.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Okay, we have a bit of an update in the
Nino Jobrov and Sean Whyitet breakup. So at the time
of recording, I'm saying this like we're reporting on some
hard hitting news that's unfolding as we speak. At the
time of recording, neither of them have confirmed the breakup
after being together for five years, but there's been so
many sources that have confirmed it, and also they've both
been posting so much online. I think that if there
(04:54):
was a story out there that your relationship had ended,
you would address it. So I think it's safe to say.
And I don't judge Nina Joe Brov for just like
completely turning off her comments and walking away from that.
But the reason she's back in the news. Have you
seen these photos I have. She's doing a bit of
a yacht trip with her friends around Sardinia, around the islands,
and it all looks very chic and sexy and like
(05:14):
they're filming an old school Daylo music video. But it's
who's on the boat that people are talking about, and
I love.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Who is on the boat.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
It is none other than zac Efron. So people are
connecting the two as a potential new couple, but there's
other people.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yes, the friend group is kind of the interesting thing.
So it's all being led by the Tellers. I'm sure
people know Miles Teller from you know, Top Gun and
blah blah blah, but he and his wife, Kelly Teller
are very much kind of the lynchpin for all of
like these young Hollywood couples, Like they're always the ones
who are having everyone to their house before it burnt down.
Obviously that's very sad, having people like on their yachts
(05:50):
all this sort of thing, walking with their friends to
red carpets, like they seem to be kind of this
glue in. I wouldn't say young Hollywood because they're all
in their like late thirties and stuff. Mid range Hollywood.
They're the Connecting.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Blue Sorry, do not start calling I.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Didn't say midline, mid range, Yes, just that group. I
know it's in that group.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Let's be gentle.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
I love the other door.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I love the idea of It's like when Zoe Kravitz
was dating Harry Styles and everyone was like, oh, young Hollywood.
I mean Zoe Kravit's is only forty, and I love
that that's the age bracket she's in because again that
puts us in that age bracket.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Yees.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
So these photos have come out and the first kind
of thing that's really interesting is that this is the
group that all used to hang around with Sean White
and Nina doe Brev when they were engaged, and they
were like Hollywood's you know, like beautiful love story. And
it just kind of has come across that the friend
group has really picked a side with Nina Doebrev because
not only are there pet pitchures, there's so many pet pittures,
(06:44):
but they're all posting like crazy to their socials and
it has the air of like a breakup holiday with
your best girlfriend, which is Nina Doebrev and Kelly Teller,
but Miles Teller's there, and then also Chase Crawford is
there from Gossip Girl. He's in the group. He's always
on the sidelines of these groups, smiling like he's just
happy to be included. And of course zachetfront is there
(07:07):
because he is also really good friends with the Tellers.
The Tellers are the glue.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Okay, So, as I understand it, Sean and Nina used
to have like dinner parties, they go on holidays with
Kayley and Miles, so they were like a bit of
a couple group.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, So now that they've broken up, the whole thing
is like who gets to keep the friends? And this
is like my biggest fear. I've been with my partner
for like sixteen years. We are so enmeshed in each
other's friendship groups that trying to separate that would be
picking played hour out of the carpet. The only reason
that comes to mind is because that's what I was
(07:42):
doing over the weekend. But is this really her picking aside?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I think it is then picking aside because it is
so public. It is so like if you look at
the photos, like Nina's in the center, everyone's always like
cheersing their glasses to her. Kelly's like really hugging her.
People are saying it could be like a revenge trip
because obviously she looks gorgeous. She looks like she's having
the time of her life. Like I said, it looks
like a music video or a commercial to be like
(08:06):
young and beautiful in Hollywood and just drinking on a
yacht with your friends. But it does kind of seem
very pointed that the whole gang has rallied around one person,
and whether or not that means that the rumors are true,
because there's two different rumors at the moment, and I
don't know which one to believe. There's the one that
Sean White cheated, which people only think because Nina Doughbrea
put out that TikTok saying like he's got a million
(08:28):
other girls to be looking after him. I mean, that's
a TikTok so down, we don't know about that. The
other one is that there's a push and pull over
who wanted kids and who wanted career. Some people are
saying that he didn't want kids and she did, and
some people are saying she picked her career over him.
It's very messy, but the point is that a lot
of people are putting the blame on Sean, which kind
of means that the friendship group would gravitate towards the
(08:49):
other person. I love how parasocial this all is. The
other thing is that this is also looking good for
Kelly Teller because she had that not a public falling
out with Taylor Swift, but something has definitely happened there
because you know how for a long time, Taylor Swift
was the Nina doebrev of like kind of this friendship group.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I mean, Taylor Swift has been best friends with everybody, yes, but.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
For a while there, when she was like doing the
Award show circuit, Kelly Taylor was her date. Remember that
photo of her and Selena Gomez and Taylor Swift at
the Golden Globes and those photos that went viral because
it looks like they were gossiping. Kelly was also Taylor's
like walking to dinner through the streets of New York
holding hands like it was like her and Blake Lively,
and now they both and now she hasn't been pictured
(09:31):
with Selena, with Blake Lively with Taylor Swift, so it's
like Kelly's been pushed out of that friendship group. And
so she's kind of firming up her other group with
these people. It's all very complex.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
The one thing that I was really noticing is if
she's just gone through a breakup, if she's just gone
through a separation after five years, she looks very very happy.
She doesn't. It's you know, when someone's winning a breaker.
At this point, she looks like she's winning. She looks
very very happy.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
At this point.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I feel like most people would be in bed with
like a tub of ice cream, and you know.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I'm sure that has happened. And also she looks very
happy in the post photos that have obviously been a
proved via the group chat and have gone onto everyone's Instagram.
The bad thing is about where they are is that
with all the PAT boats around them, you can get
a long lens onto the boat, and so there are
photos pat photos. Obviously they're trash, but I did look
at them. There's photos where she's looking down on her
(10:27):
phone and it does look like she's crying, which is
fair enough. She's probably doing boats. She's probably crying and
also laughing and drinking two things at the same time,
which brings us to the whole zac Efron situation.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, I mean, I don't necessarily believe that there's a
connection there already. I feel like that would be one
very fast and two if it was anything, maybe it
would just be a quick pash on the boat.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I mean, I hope that happened for her. I see
these stories and everyone's like they're dating, they're hooking up,
and it's that same thing that we always say with
celebrity photos, is like they're dating. If you look at
the cropped photo that's been put on these tabloid headlines
where it looks like she and Zach are on the
boat together, but every of the original photos when you
zoom out, it's them in a whole big there's people
(11:11):
around them. Sometimes they're talking. He is looking at her
phone at one stage and they're laughing. She's probably showing
him a TikTok and he's like, that's crazy. You know.
That's the vibe between them. I kind of do love
the idea of them having like a bit of a
host breakup hook up for her if she's in the
right headspace. Because I have a real soft spot for
zac Efron.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
So do I. Zac Efron was definitely on my vision
board as a teenager.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Vision for what to get married married? Most people have
like career travel, You're married.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Zac Efron hair of two thousand and seven, which is just.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Like everyone's making fun of his bleached hair and these photos.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
It's not the best, but like, I'm not a guy break,
I'm not crazy about the bleached chair. But there was
that very iconic moment in two thousand and seven during
his high school music of the flick.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I can't get on board the high school musical zac
Efron because he looks like he should be in like
one of those old schools like seventies sitcoms, as like
a kid or something like he's too childlike in that
Like later zac efron'ly because he's a really good comedic
actor that gets me every time. He's actually like so
good when he's put in a role where he's like
the buff guy who's kind of making fun of himself,
(12:20):
like in Baywatch or Bad Neighbors or even like what
is it Dave and Mike need Wedding Days is so
funny in.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
That you know how you don't like meeting your heroes.
You know you don't like interview celebrities that you have
a big like affinity for Because I had such a
big crush on zac Efron when I was younger, I
was like really excited to interview him. The first time
I interviewed him was at Mike and Dave need Wedding Days.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, and it was really bad. Oh no, he was bad,
don't tell me that.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
But but caveat on that. It was like the most
intense red carp but I've ever been on. The screaming
from of the girls was so intense that no one
could hear themselves. Think it was like an echo chamber
of screaming girls. I actually couldn't hear either of them
because Adam Devine and Zach were doing the interviews together.
I couldn't even hear them when they was standing like,
(13:07):
you know, very very close to me. So I was
giving him a past. I was feeling a little bit disappointed.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Oh see.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
But then I interviewed him again, like a year later,
and he was really lovely.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I knew he would it.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
It was so good and it really just made me
so happy.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
So I be fair if you told me he was
a douche, I like, fair enough, that's kind of the
vibe I get from him. But I would be okay
with that.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
But he was a bit little for me though, Oh
I've heard that.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
No, it's why he's got the hair right up. And
he wears lifts in his shoes like Tom Cruise. But
there's only so much a shoe lift can do. But
that's okay because I don't like him because I want
to hook up with him. I just find him like
a dumb, funny guy who leans into being dumb and
funny in a way that I so truly appreciate for
where he is in his career. And I loved him
in Hairspray. He's just so good in that. He's so
good in hairspr When I was watching, when I was
(13:52):
looking at these photos of him and in a Joe
Boven stuff, I was like, just, yeah, this boy needs this,
Like I would love him to hook up with a
hot chick like that because he's had a bad run.
Because the thing about Zacha From's New Face, which is
so prevalent in that movie, he didn't call Kim in
a family affair. The thing about that is like there's
no good outcome around that, because if you believe his
story that he had a horrible fall and he smashed
(14:14):
up his face and he had to get all this
plastic surgery to fix his face. That is horrific. That
is so sad for him and his perfect face. Or
if you believe the rumors that he had so much
plastic surgery because Hollywood made him feel bad about himself
even though he had a lovely face and he felt
the need to go and change his face, to the
fact that he doesn't look like himself anymore, that's also sad.
So I'm like, I hate all the conversations around his
(14:36):
face because he either had a horrible accident or he
felt forced to do it to himself, and those are
both really bad outcomes.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
So the one that I kind of am leaning towards
is that he feels like he was forced to do it,
only because do you remember what he was talking about
how much work he had to put in on Baywatch
and how hard he had to work, and how he
had a lot of pressure to sort of be in
that really peak physical condition. And even after that, I
remember him talking a lot about being in shape for
(15:04):
movies and how difficult that was for him. So it
wouldn't surprise me if he was doing the Boat and
the villas, and because you do notice, and again, I
feel really bad saying this because I'm a massive fan
of botox. But you can see, like when he smiles,
the top quarter of his face doesn't move.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I mean it's harder to see in these pat pics,
which I kind of liked because you look like old
zac Efron. But if you look at him and his
like recent movies where you know his face is like
full up on the screen, he just has a completely
different face, and I just hate that for him, our
sweet boy, who just something bad happened to him. So anyway,
this is completely gone off the rails, no important, because
they both I just think he and Nina might be
(15:45):
sitting there being like we were both these like teen
idols and now we I think at the same age.
I think he's thirty seven, she's thirty six. Ly other way,
but they're pretty much the same age. They've been famous
for a kind of similar amount of time, and they've
both been through a lot of shit publicly, So I
actually think that they're not sitting there having sexy talk
on the boat. In my heart, I think they're just
sitting there being like, fuck, we've been through a lot,
(16:05):
and like I just want to sit here and drink
these like crazy expensive cocktails on a boat with our
face as friends and like get some hot paparazzi peaks
to make everyone jealous of us, and I hope that's
what's happened.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I can definitely see them together. Let's make a prediction.
Let's put it on our vision board.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Vision board. Can't say have one of those, but I
borrow yours.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
We'll do a vision board of Zach Everron and Enodoe brev.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Okay manifesting that for those kids, Nana.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
So, as we all know, Taylor Sweis's Life of a
show Girl is so close to release and we're very
excited about it, and she's got a new movie coming,
so we thought we would bring a board. Our pop
culture and social editor at Mamma Mia Tina Burg.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Hello, it's me again.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
You're going to give us all of the details on
this new movie. People are really excited about it. Taylor
announced it over the weekend. What can we expect?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Yes, I'm very excited too. As the swifty this is
where I shine. I feel like I know a lot
of information about her personal life that is mostly for work.
To be completely honest.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
And yeah, yeah, and you're like, this crazy.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Woman is going to tell you about the backstory of
all of her romances. But for me, it is like
it's the albums and the music videos and like I
used to sit on our family computer and watch like
the Fearless videos and stuff, So like this is this
is for me.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
You're a real fan. I'm trying to sales fan.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Actually I'm not a fake fan.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
So this is titled the Official Release Party of a
show Girl, which is a little bit much for me.
I think that's too long for that.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
That's the same of the movie.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Well, that's what we're getting on the poster, and that's
the official hashtag. So like it's kind of like a
weird release party film. I think Taylor could have tightened
that up a little bit.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Yeah, but that's her business.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
So the party is basically an eighty nine minute film
celebrating the launch of her new album, The Life of
a show Girl, and it's dropping in theaters like in
America the day that the album comes out. For us,
it's going to be after.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
So I saw Event Cinemas of doing it from the
fourth of October.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Yes, so I release on the third third of October.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
But I feel like it won't be that different because
if it's three pm, third of October their time. That's
like the middle of the night for us.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, I feel like we're the scene in a midnight
screening because Swifty as they share from information fast, that
whole movie will be on TikTok within like twenty minutes
of it coming out.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Well, no, because they'll be like people in the cinema
with laser points. Surely all of that. So yeah, so
this is God.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I just got very I was like doing world clocking
in my head.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Oh, being a Swifty means you need to have all
of the American times on your to translate when it's
gonna be. So this is kind of like a global
version of what she did for like nineteen eighty nine
reputation and lover where she used to bring fans to
kind of like her house or a house and do
secret sessions. So she would often like give them.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
A teaser of the music.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
She would sit there and she would explain like why
she made certain lyrical choices, or she'd show them like
how she made a sound come to life because she.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Tracked them all online, right, which that is crazy government
conspiracy behavior for anyone else who's not tell us Swift,
because correct me if I'm wrong, because you're the diehard
S fifty fan person who's only half admitting that. But
she used to watch all of these people, like these
bloggers and these fans online for years before she handpicked
yeah yeah, who came to her house and she would
(19:09):
make them like crispy treats and I can't leave this
informations in my head, and like they would sit on
the floor and listen to her songs. Right.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
I know that Taylor now is like this like other
worldly level of famous, right, But obviously even though she
was so famous at the time she was on Tumblr,
like she was on the apps, she was engaging with
fans and like sharing silly little details about her life
with them and her music with them. So yeah, she
would follow them and like their content and sad she
can't do that anymore. Imagine if she was on the
stories right now she's on the Insta stories, because I
(19:38):
think that's where she would be, not t t Oh, yeah,
she would just be sharing cat videos all day.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
I feel like the world has really been robbed.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
There a whole account's dedicated to like her old post
because obviously I wiped everything with reputation and she used
to just like, yeah, be posting her cats barbecue with
the gowls like she was. She was a real social
media and robbed of so much continue but so this
is kind of what she used to do, but on
a global scale for everyone, you know. So, the movie
will include the music video for the song The Fate
(20:04):
of Ophelia, which is confirmed as the lead single, and
she's clearly shot the music video for it, and we
can talk about that in a minute. It will have
personal footage behind the scenes of the video shoots of
her directing, and it will have never before seen personal reflections.
And my favorite part is that it will have some
lyric videos. So it's like gathering around with your pals
to watch a YouTube video together.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Sorry, what's a lyric video?
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Okay, you're clearly not in any crazy fandoms and that tracks.
A lyric video is just a video of the lyrics
on the screen, and it's just like all the artists
do them, but like once upon a time, like you
would watch like the one direction lyric video for their
songs that don't have a music video so that you
could memorize all of the lyrics.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
This is like pre Spotify.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
But see, I would just google what the lyrics were.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I don't want the.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Same it was the same, So sometimes they wouldn't come
out at the same time. And then with Taylor, sometimes
there's a clue or something in them, so say like
when she released like the nineteen eighty nine Taylor's version
of lyric videos, there were some clues in them for
like what would be next because she's crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Okay, well that sounds fun.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
It sounds fun, and also it sounds weird for like
a cinema full of people. No people do all night
and everyone's like, okay, I'm queuing them a YouTube video.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Now, people will eat that up. They will just everyone
just wants to stand their seat and sing together because
they all just at the end of the day want
to be at a concert.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
It kind of feels a little bit like church choir
because like they're not going to know the melodies. Yeah,
I don't do that, Hilyrics Green and their lawd just
be like guessing how to sing the song.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
I mean, what isn't wait?
Speaker 5 (21:30):
What is joy that's going to be?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
She's definitely done this, like off the back of the
you know the Errors tour doco that did so well.
She knows that this is going to be huge.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
It'll be huge only a.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Two day release, but I'm assuming it's going to be
on like something like Disney Plus afterwards.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Yeah. So it's like being released in five hundred and
forty theaters in the States and it's already made fifteen
million dollars in first day pretails, and like the forecast
is like thirty to fifty million in the box office
in the US. She is a deal in the US
that it's only AMC theaters because she went direct to
them for the Era's tool, and like basically just means
they both get more money essentially. In Australia, Events Cinemas
and HOAt Cinemas have both shared posts saying that they
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will have the film coming to cinemas on October fourth
and over fifth. But I do feel like this is
one of those Australian things where it's going to be
like select cinemas, not everyone's going to be It's going
to be a much bigger deal in the US than
it is here, so it might be hard. It's honestly
going to feel like flashbacks to fighting for tickets to
the rarors too.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah, well, I can't go back to those days. I
literally just got a stress heartbeat, like I can't go
on to them, like it just gives me, really the
dark days. I'm not criticizing the movie, obviously, because I
haven't seen it yet and I can't even pronounce the title.
What did you say?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
It was Taylor Swift the official release party of Shogu.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Wait what Yeah? It rolls off the tongue as that movie.
So that movie. Here's my one. Like, not a criticism, Clovers.
You haven't seen it yet and I haven't pre bought tickets,
so I'm probably not going to see it at theater
unless someone wants to invite me to a premiere. I'm
just putting it out there. Is that how much behind
the scenes of the errors Toru were going to get
because obviously we had the errors to a movie, but
that was just the footage of her on stage. I
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want the setup. I want the travel, I want her
crying from exhaustion. I want to know what she does
when she leaves the stage. I want to be in
the quick change underneath the stage where she getting not
in a creepy way. I don't want to see you
getting dressed, but I want to see, like how she
does all that do you want to.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
See the music video if I can do it with
a broken heart, but like in a documentary, yes, form, yes,
I would love that.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
See.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I actually quite like the idea of seeing like the
way she made the album and how all of this
is coming together. I do think though she did say
in her Instagram post that dancing is not expected but
encourage you know how There's been all this backlash of
like Hamilton musicals and K pop demon hunters and people
going like absolutely like singing too loudly and people having complaints.
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I do feel like, is it gonna get like a
bit out of control?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
It probably will, I think if you got to watch
it in cinemas, though you kind of expect that yelling
and singing along the Torture Poets Department. The criticism of
that everyone's like too many songs, they all sound the same,
They're all a bit sad, tortured. It's in the name.
There was some criticism of that, whereas this is meant
to be a return to her kind of like original
pop girl.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Yes, so she's kind of said that this is like
a super tight twelve track album. There's not gonna be
surprise songs. There's not gonna be volt tracks, like this is.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
What it is.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Do we believe her?
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Kind of yeah, kind of, because like I do think
she does this sometimes, like she was like Red followed
by nineteen eighty nine, like Red was sort of an
equivalent to Tortured Poets years and years before. The nineteen
eighty nine was that really tight pop girl album produced
by in part the same people, Max Martin and Shellback.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
So she's kind of.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Said that this will be like vivid, crisp focused lyrics
like Folklore, also a pretty tight album, but then with
the pop vibe, so we might be sad, but we'll
be booging yea, and I'm sure there'll be lovely tracks too.
But back to sort of the era's tour of it all.
I don't think there's gonna be any errors tour stuff
in this Life of a Showgirl film, But I think
we're gonna get the aerrors to a docker.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yes, but I hit hearing that and where is it?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
But this is all tied to Life of a Showgirl, right,
So like that was her showgirl experience, and like she's
got this running deal with AMC Disney plus as you said,
so likely this will end up on Disney Plus, and
then I think it's gonna be like music video album,
rollout single, here's the doc ementary, Because why else were
you filming the second time?
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (25:14):
What was that? Four?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Yes? So true.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
You can't tell me that you didn't get enough footage
the first time. They filmed three nights for the first film,
and then they filmed three nights again, So.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
What is it for? Yeah, exactly, it has to be
a documentary.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I'm quite interested in the fact that The Fate of
Apelia is the title track. I thought potentially it would
be the Soprana Carpenter one Life at the Showgut, which
is track twelve.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
Wily.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Yeah, I feel like a collab for her, given that
this is supposed to be like again a return to
pop music, another like really big album, like this is
going to be the kind of album where she's going
for Grammys, where she's going for everything, Like it makes
sense to me that the first would maybe be a
single on her own, and I do think that obviously.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
The Sabrina one will be after.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
But I definitely think that the music video is going
to be really interesting because there was an Instagram post
of her on the weekend sitting in front of this
like floral backdrop in her director's chair, and like, if
you don't know, Ophelia is a character from Shakespeare's Hamlet
and she dies while gathering flowers in a river, and
there's a really famous painting of Ophelia in the river,
and the background of Taylor Swift's video looks a lot
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like that painting, and a lot.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Like her proposal, and a.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Lot like her proposal, a lot like the flowers on
her piano through the era's tour. So people think that,
like the music video, it might not even be her.
She might tap in like a famous actor or something
play that part. It might be that like Ophelia comes
to life or something in this music video.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Well that's the first thing I thought, is like when
you saw that cover and it's like the water behind
her and everything that's very ophelia esque.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Yes, and like the vibe as well of that cover
being very like as you said, it's meant to be. Backstage,
we're not doing life of a show girl like razzle
dazzle on stage. We're doing the calm down and the
after stuff. So I think you'll get your documentary.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Okay, that's all I want.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Please, My final theory, yes, is you know how we
had bright Girl summer green. I feel now it's going
to be Taylor Swift orange.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
I can't put it off. I think it's so unfair.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
What about like a little little orange.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Look, I'm too white for that Taylor's So I apologize
to Taylor. I won't be dressing in the orange, but
I applaud those who can pull off that color. It's beautiful,
just not on me.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah, I couldn't do the green, so I'm looking forward
to the orange.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
I might be able to do the like the subtle
light green that is going with the orange for Taylor.
That feels like a color I could maybe pull off.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Okay, yeah, maybe we should do your colors.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
You know, maybe we should well do because that's what
I'm thinking, is like, I'm not whatever color that orange
is in that doesn't suit me, but to.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
Everyone else, dress up, have fun.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah, well, thank you for that last insider tip. So
it's like Tina's skin tone and you want to wear
that orange color.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
I support your dreams too.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
That it's not for me that I think orange was
good on you too.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I'll give it a well, yeah, I'll give it a.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Wait to all of our colors. I really want to
do the color thing with the sheet over my neck.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Hot tips for this next weekend to go get your
colors done on Friday evening.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Any way, you're gonna need lead in. Go get your
colours done.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
On Thursday, Friday shopping spree, Saturday movie.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Okay, love that.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
What a plan, What an itinerary.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
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Speaker 5 (28:34):
See you later, Bye bye bye
So much.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders
that this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome
to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura
Brodneck and I'm Cassemi legidd And coming up on the
show today, Taylor Swift has announced a new movie, but
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it's not the movie project anyone was expecting. We have
all the details on that. Plus there's been a huge
update in Hollywood's biggest split, and we might have a
sexy new romance on the horizon. Friends have taken sides.
Hollywood stars have taken sides. I'm making that sound really
serious only because it is. Guys, it's so serious. So
we're going to get into that.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
But first, okay, So this is something that I have
been seeing all weekend, and is Matthew McConaughey talking about
the secret to his fifteen year marriage with Kimilalvarez. So
he's promoting this new book called Poems and Prays, which
is like this memoir of poems and prayers.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I guess yeah, it is all says.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
And he was talking about the reason why his marriage
is so successful, and I was like, Okay, what is this?
So take a listen.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
And I wake up one morning, I'm looking over there
and Camilla is like a football field away man, and
I'm like, and there you go to bed at night
you want to snuggle up, and like, well, we've got
to cover it. You come about twelve feet and I'll
come twelve feet. You're like, man, this damn king says
that's not good with marriage. Man, this get get rid
of that something we got. So we got a queen's
where we shoulders shoulder. I'm telling you it's good for
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your marriage.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
In the words of how to Lose a Guy in
ten Days.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Bullshit, I've got to say, because I saw the headlines
before I saw the actual clip or the interview or
anything like that, and I saw these headlines of Matthew
McConaughey shares sexy secret bed secret to long marriage, he
spills his sex secrets with Camilla. And the first thing
I thought was, this is going to be a letdown,
because these headlines are promising me. So Matthew McConaughey's sex talk,
(02:11):
which I personally am not into, but I think they're
cute as a couple and I clicked into it and
it was the most boring thing you could think of.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Okay, I know that this doesn't but the reason this
like really hit me is because I do not like
being touched in bed, Like I will do a quick
spoon and then I need you to get as far
away from me as possible. Also, I have two small children,
and Matthew's talking about how his kids are now out
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of the bed, but they're constantly in my bed. And
there is nothing worse than tiny toes in the back
of your kidneys at two o'clock in the morning, and children,
no matter how small they are, for some reason, take
up the entire bed. So it's King or super King.
If I could go bigger than super King, I would.
And as a tall girl and my husband's a tall
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man and he's really warm as well, I'm like, get
away from me, you're sweaty, like I do not like
to be touched in that.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, look, I don't think it's the wrong thing to say.
I just think the promise of a sexy marriage story
and then the size of the bed was a bit
of a let down from what I've come to expect
from Matthew. McConaughey because he often has a bit of
like a no filter situation when he's talking about his family,
like for better or for worse. When he said, like,
we've gone from like, what was it a king to
a queen? That much of a difference it it is?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
It is that much of a difference.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
It is.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
But he can't see Camilla and now they're shoulders to
shoulder every night. I would have believed him more if
you said a king to a double.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I mean, I'm not going to go into bed lengths
because I feel like I.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Was going to say, I do think we've heard here.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I feel like that it's just the most boring thing ever.
But Cameron Diaz and Benji Matta actually have separate bedrooms.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Oh yeah, I might way more on board with that,
and I feel like that's how most people would prefer
to sleep.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
I know so many.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
People now who have separate bedrooms. I mean, in this economy,
that's incredible if you can swing that. But I would
one hundred percent be on board with that.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Well, I think we spend the majority of our lives
in our own beds, with our own space, and then
all of a sudden you're in a marriage, and you're
expected to share a bed with someone like we've got snores,
we've got kickers. I mean the other night I accidentally
slapped Dan in the face. So I do think that
it's not necessarily a bad thing to need to have
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some separation in a bed. And Matthew McConaughey, I usually
like what you say and your voice is beautiful, but
I absolutely hate this advice and I just need you
to do bet about you Nana.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Okay, we have a bit of an update in the
Nino Jobrov and Sean Whyitet breakup. So at the time
of recording, I'm saying this like we're reporting on some
hard hitting news that's unfolding as we speak. At the
time of recording, neither of them have confirmed the breakup
after being together for five years, but there's been so
many sources that have confirmed it, and also they've both
been posting so much online. I think that if there
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was a story out there that your relationship had ended,
you would address it. So I think it's safe to say.
And I don't judge Nina Joe Brov for just like
completely turning off her comments and walking away from that.
But the reason she's back in the news. Have you
seen these photos I have. She's doing a bit of
a yacht trip with her friends around Sardinia, around the islands,
and it all looks very chic and sexy and like
(05:14):
they're filming an old school Daylo music video. But it's
who's on the boat that people are talking about, and
I love.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Who is on the boat.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
It is none other than zac Efron. So people are
connecting the two as a potential new couple, but there's
other people.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yes, the friend group is kind of the interesting thing.
So it's all being led by the Tellers. I'm sure
people know Miles Teller from you know, Top Gun and
blah blah blah, but he and his wife, Kelly Teller
are very much kind of the lynchpin for all of
like these young Hollywood couples, Like they're always the ones
who are having everyone to their house before it burnt down.
Obviously that's very sad, having people like on their yachts
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all this sort of thing, walking with their friends to
red carpets, like they seem to be kind of this
glue in. I wouldn't say young Hollywood because they're all
in their like late thirties and stuff. Mid range Hollywood.
They're the Connecting.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Blue Sorry, do not start calling I.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Didn't say midline, mid range, Yes, just that group. I
know it's in that group.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Let's be gentle.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
I love the other door.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I love the idea of It's like when Zoe Kravitz
was dating Harry Styles and everyone was like, oh, young Hollywood.
I mean Zoe Kravit's is only forty, and I love
that that's the age bracket she's in because again that
puts us in that age bracket.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Yees.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
So these photos have come out and the first kind
of thing that's really interesting is that this is the
group that all used to hang around with Sean White
and Nina doe Brev when they were engaged, and they
were like Hollywood's you know, like beautiful love story. And
it just kind of has come across that the friend
group has really picked a side with Nina Doebrev because
not only are there pet pitchures, there's so many pet pittures,
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but they're all posting like crazy to their socials and
it has the air of like a breakup holiday with
your best girlfriend, which is Nina Doebrev and Kelly Teller,
but Miles Teller's there, and then also Chase Crawford is
there from Gossip Girl. He's in the group. He's always
on the sidelines of these groups, smiling like he's just
happy to be included. And of course zachetfront is there
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because he is also really good friends with the Tellers.
The Tellers are the glue.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Okay, So, as I understand it, Sean and Nina used
to have like dinner parties, they go on holidays with
Kayley and Miles, so they were like a bit of
a couple group.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, So now that they've broken up, the whole thing
is like who gets to keep the friends? And this
is like my biggest fear. I've been with my partner
for like sixteen years. We are so enmeshed in each
other's friendship groups that trying to separate that would be
picking played hour out of the carpet. The only reason
that comes to mind is because that's what I was
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doing over the weekend. But is this really her picking aside?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I think it is then picking aside because it is
so public. It is so like if you look at
the photos, like Nina's in the center, everyone's always like
cheersing their glasses to her. Kelly's like really hugging her.
People are saying it could be like a revenge trip
because obviously she looks gorgeous. She looks like she's having
the time of her life. Like I said, it looks
like a music video or a commercial to be like
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young and beautiful in Hollywood and just drinking on a
yacht with your friends. But it does kind of seem
very pointed that the whole gang has rallied around one person,
and whether or not that means that the rumors are true,
because there's two different rumors at the moment, and I
don't know which one to believe. There's the one that
Sean White cheated, which people only think because Nina Doughbrea
put out that TikTok saying like he's got a million
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other girls to be looking after him. I mean, that's
a TikTok so down, we don't know about that. The
other one is that there's a push and pull over
who wanted kids and who wanted career. Some people are
saying that he didn't want kids and she did, and
some people are saying she picked her career over him.
It's very messy, but the point is that a lot
of people are putting the blame on Sean, which kind
of means that the friendship group would gravitate towards the
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other person. I love how parasocial this all is. The
other thing is that this is also looking good for
Kelly Teller because she had that not a public falling
out with Taylor Swift, but something has definitely happened there
because you know how for a long time, Taylor Swift
was the Nina doebrev of like kind of this friendship group.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I mean, Taylor Swift has been best friends with everybody, yes, but.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
For a while there, when she was like doing the
Award show circuit, Kelly Taylor was her date. Remember that
photo of her and Selena Gomez and Taylor Swift at
the Golden Globes and those photos that went viral because
it looks like they were gossiping. Kelly was also Taylor's
like walking to dinner through the streets of New York
holding hands like it was like her and Blake Lively,
and now they both and now she hasn't been pictured
(09:31):
with Selena, with Blake Lively with Taylor Swift, so it's
like Kelly's been pushed out of that friendship group. And
so she's kind of firming up her other group with
these people. It's all very complex.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
The one thing that I was really noticing is if
she's just gone through a breakup, if she's just gone
through a separation after five years, she looks very very happy.
She doesn't. It's you know, when someone's winning a breaker.
At this point, she looks like she's winning. She looks
very very happy.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
At this point.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I feel like most people would be in bed with
like a tub of ice cream, and you know.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I'm sure that has happened. And also she looks very
happy in the post photos that have obviously been a
proved via the group chat and have gone onto everyone's Instagram.
The bad thing is about where they are is that
with all the PAT boats around them, you can get
a long lens onto the boat, and so there are
photos pat photos. Obviously they're trash, but I did look
at them. There's photos where she's looking down on her
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phone and it does look like she's crying, which is
fair enough. She's probably doing boats. She's probably crying and
also laughing and drinking two things at the same time,
which brings us to the whole zac Efron situation.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, I mean, I don't necessarily believe that there's a
connection there already. I feel like that would be one
very fast and two if it was anything, maybe it
would just be a quick pash on the boat.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I mean, I hope that happened for her. I see
these stories and everyone's like they're dating, they're hooking up,
and it's that same thing that we always say with
celebrity photos, is like they're dating. If you look at
the cropped photo that's been put on these tabloid headlines
where it looks like she and Zach are on the
boat together, but every of the original photos when you
zoom out, it's them in a whole big there's people
(11:11):
around them. Sometimes they're talking. He is looking at her
phone at one stage and they're laughing. She's probably showing
him a TikTok and he's like, that's crazy. You know.
That's the vibe between them. I kind of do love
the idea of them having like a bit of a
host breakup hook up for her if she's in the
right headspace. Because I have a real soft spot for
zac Efron.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
So do I. Zac Efron was definitely on my vision
board as a teenager.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Vision for what to get married married? Most people have
like career travel, You're married.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Zac Efron hair of two thousand and seven, which is just.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Like everyone's making fun of his bleached hair and these photos.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
It's not the best, but like, I'm not a guy break,
I'm not crazy about the bleached chair. But there was
that very iconic moment in two thousand and seven during
his high school music of the flick.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I can't get on board the high school musical zac
Efron because he looks like he should be in like
one of those old schools like seventies sitcoms, as like
a kid or something like he's too childlike in that
Like later zac efron'ly because he's a really good comedic
actor that gets me every time. He's actually like so
good when he's put in a role where he's like
the buff guy who's kind of making fun of himself,
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like in Baywatch or Bad Neighbors or even like what
is it Dave and Mike need Wedding Days is so
funny in.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
That you know how you don't like meeting your heroes.
You know you don't like interview celebrities that you have
a big like affinity for Because I had such a
big crush on zac Efron when I was younger, I
was like really excited to interview him. The first time
I interviewed him was at Mike and Dave need Wedding Days.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, and it was really bad. Oh no, he was bad,
don't tell me that.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
But but caveat on that. It was like the most
intense red carp but I've ever been on. The screaming
from of the girls was so intense that no one
could hear themselves. Think it was like an echo chamber
of screaming girls. I actually couldn't hear either of them
because Adam Devine and Zach were doing the interviews together.
I couldn't even hear them when they was standing like,
(13:07):
you know, very very close to me. So I was
giving him a past. I was feeling a little bit disappointed.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Oh see.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
But then I interviewed him again, like a year later,
and he was really lovely.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I knew he would it.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
It was so good and it really just made me
so happy.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
So I be fair if you told me he was
a douche, I like, fair enough, that's kind of the
vibe I get from him. But I would be okay
with that.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
But he was a bit little for me though, Oh
I've heard that.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
No, it's why he's got the hair right up. And
he wears lifts in his shoes like Tom Cruise. But
there's only so much a shoe lift can do. But
that's okay because I don't like him because I want
to hook up with him. I just find him like
a dumb, funny guy who leans into being dumb and
funny in a way that I so truly appreciate for
where he is in his career. And I loved him
in Hairspray. He's just so good in that. He's so
good in hairspr When I was watching, when I was
(13:52):
looking at these photos of him and in a Joe
Boven stuff, I was like, just, yeah, this boy needs this,
Like I would love him to hook up with a
hot chick like that because he's had a bad run.
Because the thing about Zacha From's New Face, which is
so prevalent in that movie, he didn't call Kim in
a family affair. The thing about that is like there's
no good outcome around that, because if you believe his
story that he had a horrible fall and he smashed
(14:14):
up his face and he had to get all this
plastic surgery to fix his face. That is horrific. That
is so sad for him and his perfect face. Or
if you believe the rumors that he had so much
plastic surgery because Hollywood made him feel bad about himself
even though he had a lovely face and he felt
the need to go and change his face, to the
fact that he doesn't look like himself anymore, that's also sad.
So I'm like, I hate all the conversations around his
(14:36):
face because he either had a horrible accident or he
felt forced to do it to himself, and those are
both really bad outcomes.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
So the one that I kind of am leaning towards
is that he feels like he was forced to do it,
only because do you remember what he was talking about
how much work he had to put in on Baywatch
and how hard he had to work, and how he
had a lot of pressure to sort of be in
that really peak physical condition. And even after that, I
remember him talking a lot about being in shape for
(15:04):
movies and how difficult that was for him. So it
wouldn't surprise me if he was doing the Boat and
the villas, and because you do notice, and again, I
feel really bad saying this because I'm a massive fan
of botox. But you can see, like when he smiles,
the top quarter of his face doesn't move.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I mean it's harder to see in these pat pics,
which I kind of liked because you look like old
zac Efron. But if you look at him and his
like recent movies where you know his face is like
full up on the screen, he just has a completely
different face, and I just hate that for him, our
sweet boy, who just something bad happened to him. So anyway,
this is completely gone off the rails, no important, because
they both I just think he and Nina might be
(15:45):
sitting there being like we were both these like teen
idols and now we I think at the same age.
I think he's thirty seven, she's thirty six. Ly other way,
but they're pretty much the same age. They've been famous
for a kind of similar amount of time, and they've
both been through a lot of shit publicly, So I
actually think that they're not sitting there having sexy talk
on the boat. In my heart, I think they're just
sitting there being like, fuck, we've been through a lot,
(16:05):
and like I just want to sit here and drink
these like crazy expensive cocktails on a boat with our
face as friends and like get some hot paparazzi peaks
to make everyone jealous of us, and I hope that's
what's happened.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I can definitely see them together. Let's make a prediction.
Let's put it on our vision board.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Vision board. Can't say have one of those, but I
borrow yours.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
We'll do a vision board of Zach Everron and Enodoe brev.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Okay manifesting that for those kids, Nana.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
So, as we all know, Taylor Sweis's Life of a
show Girl is so close to release and we're very
excited about it, and she's got a new movie coming,
so we thought we would bring a board. Our pop
culture and social editor at Mamma Mia Tina Burg.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Hello, it's me again.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
You're going to give us all of the details on
this new movie. People are really excited about it. Taylor
announced it over the weekend. What can we expect?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Yes, I'm very excited too. As the swifty this is
where I shine. I feel like I know a lot
of information about her personal life that is mostly for work.
To be completely honest.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
And yeah, yeah, and you're like, this crazy.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Woman is going to tell you about the backstory of
all of her romances. But for me, it is like
it's the albums and the music videos and like I
used to sit on our family computer and watch like
the Fearless videos and stuff, So like this is this
is for me.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
You're a real fan. I'm trying to sales fan.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Actually I'm not a fake fan.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
So this is titled the Official Release Party of a
show Girl, which is a little bit much for me.
I think that's too long for that.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
That's the same of the movie.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Well, that's what we're getting on the poster, and that's
the official hashtag. So like it's kind of like a
weird release party film. I think Taylor could have tightened
that up a little bit.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Yeah, but that's her business.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
So the party is basically an eighty nine minute film
celebrating the launch of her new album, The Life of
a show Girl, and it's dropping in theaters like in
America the day that the album comes out. For us,
it's going to be after.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
So I saw Event Cinemas of doing it from the
fourth of October.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Yes, so I release on the third third of October.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
But I feel like it won't be that different because
if it's three pm, third of October their time. That's
like the middle of the night for us.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, I feel like we're the scene in a midnight
screening because Swifty as they share from information fast, that
whole movie will be on TikTok within like twenty minutes
of it coming out.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Well, no, because they'll be like people in the cinema
with laser points. Surely all of that. So yeah, so
this is God.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I just got very I was like doing world clocking
in my head.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Oh, being a Swifty means you need to have all
of the American times on your to translate when it's
gonna be. So this is kind of like a global
version of what she did for like nineteen eighty nine
reputation and lover where she used to bring fans to
kind of like her house or a house and do
secret sessions. So she would often like give them.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
A teaser of the music.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
She would sit there and she would explain like why
she made certain lyrical choices, or she'd show them like
how she made a sound come to life because she.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Tracked them all online, right, which that is crazy government
conspiracy behavior for anyone else who's not tell us Swift,
because correct me if I'm wrong, because you're the diehard
S fifty fan person who's only half admitting that. But
she used to watch all of these people, like these
bloggers and these fans online for years before she handpicked
yeah yeah, who came to her house and she would
(19:09):
make them like crispy treats and I can't leave this
informations in my head, and like they would sit on
the floor and listen to her songs. Right.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
I know that Taylor now is like this like other
worldly level of famous, right, But obviously even though she
was so famous at the time she was on Tumblr,
like she was on the apps, she was engaging with
fans and like sharing silly little details about her life
with them and her music with them. So yeah, she
would follow them and like their content and sad she
can't do that anymore. Imagine if she was on the
stories right now she's on the Insta stories, because I
(19:38):
think that's where she would be, not t t Oh, yeah,
she would just be sharing cat videos all day.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
I feel like the world has really been robbed.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
There a whole account's dedicated to like her old post
because obviously I wiped everything with reputation and she used
to just like, yeah, be posting her cats barbecue with
the gowls like she was. She was a real social
media and robbed of so much continue but so this
is kind of what she used to do, but on
a global scale for everyone, you know. So, the movie
will include the music video for the song The Fate
(20:04):
of Ophelia, which is confirmed as the lead single, and
she's clearly shot the music video for it, and we
can talk about that in a minute. It will have
personal footage behind the scenes of the video shoots of
her directing, and it will have never before seen personal reflections.
And my favorite part is that it will have some
lyric videos. So it's like gathering around with your pals
to watch a YouTube video together.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Sorry, what's a lyric video?
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Okay, you're clearly not in any crazy fandoms and that tracks.
A lyric video is just a video of the lyrics
on the screen, and it's just like all the artists
do them, but like once upon a time, like you
would watch like the one direction lyric video for their
songs that don't have a music video so that you
could memorize all of the lyrics.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
This is like pre Spotify.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
But see, I would just google what the lyrics were.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I don't want the.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Same it was the same, So sometimes they wouldn't come
out at the same time. And then with Taylor, sometimes
there's a clue or something in them, so say like
when she released like the nineteen eighty nine Taylor's version
of lyric videos, there were some clues in them for
like what would be next because she's crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Okay, well that sounds fun.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
It sounds fun, and also it sounds weird for like
a cinema full of people. No people do all night
and everyone's like, okay, I'm queuing them a YouTube video.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Now, people will eat that up. They will just everyone
just wants to stand their seat and sing together because
they all just at the end of the day want
to be at a concert.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
It kind of feels a little bit like church choir
because like they're not going to know the melodies. Yeah,
I don't do that, Hilyrics Green and their lawd just
be like guessing how to sing the song.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
I mean, what isn't wait?
Speaker 5 (21:30):
What is joy that's going to be?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
She's definitely done this, like off the back of the
you know the Errors tour doco that did so well.
She knows that this is going to be huge.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
It'll be huge only a.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Two day release, but I'm assuming it's going to be
on like something like Disney Plus afterwards.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Yeah. So it's like being released in five hundred and
forty theaters in the States and it's already made fifteen
million dollars in first day pretails, and like the forecast
is like thirty to fifty million in the box office
in the US. She is a deal in the US
that it's only AMC theaters because she went direct to
them for the Era's tool, and like basically just means
they both get more money essentially. In Australia, Events Cinemas
and HOAt Cinemas have both shared posts saying that they
(22:07):
will have the film coming to cinemas on October fourth
and over fifth. But I do feel like this is
one of those Australian things where it's going to be
like select cinemas, not everyone's going to be It's going
to be a much bigger deal in the US than
it is here, so it might be hard. It's honestly
going to feel like flashbacks to fighting for tickets to
the rarors too.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah, well, I can't go back to those days. I
literally just got a stress heartbeat, like I can't go
on to them, like it just gives me, really the
dark days. I'm not criticizing the movie, obviously, because I
haven't seen it yet and I can't even pronounce the title.
What did you say?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
It was Taylor Swift the official release party of Shogu.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Wait what Yeah? It rolls off the tongue as that movie.
So that movie. Here's my one. Like, not a criticism, Clovers.
You haven't seen it yet and I haven't pre bought tickets,
so I'm probably not going to see it at theater
unless someone wants to invite me to a premiere. I'm
just putting it out there. Is that how much behind
the scenes of the errors Toru were going to get
because obviously we had the errors to a movie, but
that was just the footage of her on stage. I
(23:02):
want the setup. I want the travel, I want her
crying from exhaustion. I want to know what she does
when she leaves the stage. I want to be in
the quick change underneath the stage where she getting not
in a creepy way. I don't want to see you
getting dressed, but I want to see, like how she
does all that do you want to.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
See the music video if I can do it with
a broken heart, but like in a documentary, yes, form, yes,
I would love that.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
See.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I actually quite like the idea of seeing like the
way she made the album and how all of this
is coming together. I do think though she did say
in her Instagram post that dancing is not expected but
encourage you know how There's been all this backlash of
like Hamilton musicals and K pop demon hunters and people
going like absolutely like singing too loudly and people having complaints.
(23:46):
I do feel like, is it gonna get like a
bit out of control?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
It probably will, I think if you got to watch
it in cinemas, though you kind of expect that yelling
and singing along the Torture Poets Department. The criticism of
that everyone's like too many songs, they all sound the same,
They're all a bit sad, tortured. It's in the name.
There was some criticism of that, whereas this is meant
to be a return to her kind of like original
pop girl.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Yes, so she's kind of said that this is like
a super tight twelve track album. There's not gonna be
surprise songs. There's not gonna be volt tracks, like this is.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
What it is.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Do we believe her?
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Kind of yeah, kind of, because like I do think
she does this sometimes, like she was like Red followed
by nineteen eighty nine, like Red was sort of an
equivalent to Tortured Poets years and years before. The nineteen
eighty nine was that really tight pop girl album produced
by in part the same people, Max Martin and Shellback.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
So she's kind of.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Said that this will be like vivid, crisp focused lyrics
like Folklore, also a pretty tight album, but then with
the pop vibe, so we might be sad, but we'll
be booging yea, and I'm sure there'll be lovely tracks too.
But back to sort of the era's tour of it all.
I don't think there's gonna be any errors tour stuff
in this Life of a Showgirl film, But I think
we're gonna get the aerrors to a docker.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yes, but I hit hearing that and where is it?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
But this is all tied to Life of a Showgirl, right,
So like that was her showgirl experience, and like she's
got this running deal with AMC Disney plus as you said,
so likely this will end up on Disney Plus, and
then I think it's gonna be like music video album,
rollout single, here's the doc ementary, Because why else were
you filming the second time?
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (25:14):
What was that? Four?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Yes? So true.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
You can't tell me that you didn't get enough footage
the first time. They filmed three nights for the first film,
and then they filmed three nights again, So.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
What is it for? Yeah, exactly, it has to be
a documentary.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I'm quite interested in the fact that The Fate of
Apelia is the title track. I thought potentially it would
be the Soprana Carpenter one Life at the Showgut, which
is track twelve.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
Wily.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Yeah, I feel like a collab for her, given that
this is supposed to be like again a return to
pop music, another like really big album, like this is
going to be the kind of album where she's going
for Grammys, where she's going for everything, Like it makes
sense to me that the first would maybe be a
single on her own, and I do think that obviously.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
The Sabrina one will be after.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
But I definitely think that the music video is going
to be really interesting because there was an Instagram post
of her on the weekend sitting in front of this
like floral backdrop in her director's chair, and like, if
you don't know, Ophelia is a character from Shakespeare's Hamlet
and she dies while gathering flowers in a river, and
there's a really famous painting of Ophelia in the river,
and the background of Taylor Swift's video looks a lot
(26:17):
like that painting, and a lot.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Like her proposal, and a.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Lot like her proposal, a lot like the flowers on
her piano through the era's tour. So people think that,
like the music video, it might not even be her.
She might tap in like a famous actor or something
play that part. It might be that like Ophelia comes
to life or something in this music video.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Well that's the first thing I thought, is like when
you saw that cover and it's like the water behind
her and everything that's very ophelia esque.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Yes, and like the vibe as well of that cover
being very like as you said, it's meant to be. Backstage,
we're not doing life of a show girl like razzle
dazzle on stage. We're doing the calm down and the
after stuff. So I think you'll get your documentary.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Okay, that's all I want.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Please, My final theory, yes, is you know how we
had bright Girl summer green. I feel now it's going
to be Taylor Swift orange.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
I can't put it off. I think it's so unfair.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
What about like a little little orange.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Look, I'm too white for that Taylor's So I apologize
to Taylor. I won't be dressing in the orange, but
I applaud those who can pull off that color. It's beautiful,
just not on me.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah, I couldn't do the green, so I'm looking forward
to the orange.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
I might be able to do the like the subtle
light green that is going with the orange for Taylor.
That feels like a color I could maybe pull off.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Okay, yeah, maybe we should do your colors.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
You know, maybe we should well do because that's what
I'm thinking, is like, I'm not whatever color that orange
is in that doesn't suit me, but to.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
Everyone else, dress up, have fun.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah, well, thank you for that last insider tip. So
it's like Tina's skin tone and you want to wear
that orange color.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
I support your dreams too.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
That it's not for me that I think orange was
good on you too.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I'll give it a well, yeah, I'll give it a.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Wait to all of our colors. I really want to
do the color thing with the sheet over my neck.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Hot tips for this next weekend to go get your
colors done on Friday evening.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Any way, you're gonna need lead in. Go get your
colours done.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
On Thursday, Friday shopping spree, Saturday movie.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Okay, love that.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
What a plan, What an itinerary.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Thank you so much for listening to this bill today.
Hey guys, the best thing that you can do if
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at eight am tomorrow with Morning Tea. This bill is
produced by Many Shoes Warren with sounder production by Scott Stronik.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
See you later, Bye bye bye
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