October 5, 2025 • 28 mins
You're a liar if you say you never crushed on an animated character.
Seriously, what do Brendan Fraser's abs in a jungle loincloth, a dreamy cartoon lion, and a certain ghost-turned-human all have in common? They star in the movies that delivered a major, and sometimes highly confusing, dose of sexual awakening.
We’re taking a deep, deep dive back into the archives of our childhood VCR tapes and animated movie collections to reveal the truth about the characters and scenes that changed everything.
Prepare yourself for slightly NSFW confessions about the forbidden films and TV shows your parents probably didn't know you were watching. Plus, one cult-classic teen movie that made one of us walk in a girl and walk out a woman 🥵.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
So much you're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia
acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that this
podcast is recorded on. Hello, Spillers, this is Laura just
popping into your ears for the quick message. So it
is a public holiday in New South Wales today, so
we don't have a new episode of the Spills Afternoon
Show because we are taking a day off. But we
(00:33):
wanted to take this opportunity to reshare one of the funniest,
one of the most unexpected, and one of the most
unhinged movie round up episodes that Emily Vernon and I
have ever recorded together.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
We thought this might be deleted by our workplace. It wasn't.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
So here it is and we hope you enjoy this
very unhinged episode.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spell, your daily pop
culture fix. I'm m Vernon and I'm Laura Brodneck. How
do we.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Do it? I love how I looked at you to
intro and you just laughed and looked and just looked away.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I can't do this, embarrassed. Oh I'll tell them. Okay,
So last week this was Laura's idea. It wasn't as
no we're both responsible for this one. This happened after
the met Gala fiasco, where we were we mean our
record the whole day. Yeah, when the Metgala finished. I
think it was at that we were a bit delusional.
(01:35):
We were very tired, and we realized that we still
have a job to do.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
So we went through lots of things about like movies,
we hate, movies, are embarrassed about things we loved, things
we loved as teenagers. And somehow, in our adult conversation,
in this brainstorm, sitting like basically on the floor next
to my desk in the office, we decided to do
you say.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
We decided to do. I mean it's going to be
in the title, so everyone knows. We decided to do
an episode on the movies and TV shows that sexually
awakened us as teenagers. Please add that in as teenagers women.
If we put together specially awakened, that would be very interesting. Yes,
So look, everyone has those Actually, I think one of
(02:16):
mine when I was like nineteen, Okay, maybe you shouldn't.
That's something for you on pack. Okay, we'll get it.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
That's okay, there's not It's never too late to have
a sexual awakening. That's for weird conversation for a different podcast. So, yes,
we're gonna be talking through some of the TV shows
and movies because everyone has them, especially I was. I
really did like a lot of research for this, and
I found so many. Well, I wanted to find which
other movies and TV shows people have been sexually awakened to,
and there's oh my god, there's many there.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Anything Cycle, well, I mean some kind.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Of like more adult Fair, a lot of people like
that live action Peter Pan that came out many years ago.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
That we're not that we're in judgeable.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
We're about to say so we're going to go through
the movies and TV shows that we think sexually awakened us.
But also listeners, because like I said, everyone's got those
characters and movies that you watch as a kid. You're like, wait,
what's happening? Yes, why am I sexually attracted to a person?
Feeling like I've never thought about kissing a cartoon character before,
but now I am, Which actually brings us to the
(03:17):
first part of this show, which is, let's go all
the way back to like very very early sexual awakenings,
which is animated movies and TV shows and for anyone
who's out there who is saying I've never been sexually
attracted to an animated character.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
You're lying, You're lying.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
And maybe your parents didn't love you because they obviously
didn't show you any good movies or TV shows, or.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Maybe they knew you were a little dirty, which is
what they did. They didn't show you any of these.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
So we actually have we both won't want to say
and nearly at the same time, okay, tell us you're
like sexual awaking cartoon one, two three, and we said
the same movie at the same time, which is.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
The Lion King two? Even say the full title The
Lion King Too, the full title, the fact that you
know the full.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Title, the full title The Lion King Too, Simbers Pride,
simbers Pride, Simba's Pride, which it's not simber by the
way that we sectually no, which is a straight to
DVD follow up animation of The Lion King, straight to DVD,
not even straight to DVD, maybe even straight to VHS.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
So our parents played a big part of getting the
for us to give it to us.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I must say that I was a real child when
this came out. This came out in nineteen ninety eight,
So were you even a lie, then.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I would watched it.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I obviously waits it later, but it's you know, these
DVDs live forever.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
So The Lion King to Simba's Pride takes place after
the events of the Lion King generation. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah, the next generation.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Sexy, hot, fun, just a bit more foot loose and
fancy free. There's still a divide on the Pride lands
between Simbers Pride and the evil Lions who live in
the shadow Land.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Still problematic. Yeah, the evil Lions are still much darker
than than.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Simbers, their scars descendants. Yeah, that's the whole thing. So
Simba and Nahah have a daughter called Kiara, and her
voice is really beautiful and when you listen to it,
you're like, that doesn't never cam because she's got a
very distinct voice.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
So the whole thing around this is that The Lion
King is based off Shakespeare's Hamlet. So that's why it's
very dark and twisty with family members, you know, trying
to kill each other and whatnot. The Lion King to
Simber's Pride is based on Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet. That's
why it's so sexy because we love a little bit
of forbidden love. So Simba's daughter Nala falls in love
(05:33):
with Kovium, saying Scars nephew. Yes, so it's okay, No
one's related Cascar and oh they're adopted and move faster where,
which I learned in the.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Recent linking movie Mapasa. I love this. I actually like
they're lions. It would be fine if they were related.
It's not find for us making this awaken.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
What we're just saying is we're not weird. It's all
above board. Yeah, okay, fall in love and it's a
whole big thing because their families are feuding, but they
still come together in a really beautiful way. And there's
no other way to say this, but Coo, the animated
teenage lion, super hot.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Very muscly so muscling and a very well maintained Maine.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
It's also because he's a bad boy, saves her life.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
He's trying to gain her trust to get into over
the shoulder. He didn't even lions had sholders. How doesn't
even work? And I just used to lust after him
and I was a child. I think the comparison to
Scar right, Yes, Scar was like creepy and like looked
much older and quite skinny. Yeah, and like kov was
very muscly and very broad but with a kind face. Yeah. Great, guys,
(06:44):
Yeah so hot.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Can I just tell you something, don't google the man
who voices kovu Oh otherwise, I'm sure he's lovely and
very talented. Oh no, sorry, he's not what I imagined.
It kind of ruins the fantasy I thought he would
be hot.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
As we were talking about that, we started discussing other
animated properties.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Wait, you're not going to say the scene that made
you realize Wait what scene? Did you say? My scene
in lin King two? Yeah, was like the first time
we meet adult kovid. Oh that's when you had the
hot st Yeah, where his mom was like walking around
in circles, and then he was like explaining what he
had to do to infiltrate Simba's pride, and he was like,
(07:27):
Simba is the enemy, I must kill him. Just as
an eight year old, I was like, well, I want
that guy so hot.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I wish that line would infiltrate my family and pretend
to fall in love with me and then actually fall
in love with me, which is what happened everyone.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah, I think mine's see him.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Well the whole movie, but I think basically when he
decides to fight alongside simber and and Ki at the
end because he falls in love with her, and when
she gets pushed over the cliff and he like jumps
down to save her at the end, when his mother's like.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I'll never let it go. Have we done the whole
podcast on lin King too? Okay?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Boilers and his brother Yeah, yeah, has no choice, really
goes through it anyway?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
What is what we can't the whole podcast? Ones Pride?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
What is the other animation that you wanted to mention
that you wanted to lay at the table? Okay, obviously
this is a safe space. No one share this, No
one send this to our families. This is just between
us and the spillers this whole episode.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Okay. The next animation I want to talk about is
teenage mutant ninja turtles. Okay, but you're gonna hate this. No,
really make no, Emily, No, they look so real. No
that I was so on board with you. Raphael's way
more musclia and.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
No, but they look like mutants in that you can't
be a sexual. That version of the movie is not
for children.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Those beef. I was like twenty years old.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Okay, so I grew up with the gross Those turtles
are so horrific looking, I can't.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Really good and they're quite kind, so you check yourself.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
No, I grew up with the animated version, which was incredible,
had really amazing men in the costumes. No, I love
that one too. Okay, that's my favorite one. That's the
one I actually with them. I also think you can
tell where you are in life with which teenage mutan
ninja turtle you're in love with, because I think when
you first start out, you gravitate towards Leonardo, who's like
the good guy, the lead brother. You know, he's got
(09:22):
all the skills packed into one, and you're like, yeah,
i'd be attracted to the good guy. But as you
get older and you start to want to experiment more.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
There's one turtle that's much bigger than the other turtles,
and that's across all iterations of this franchise, including the
maked Box. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Like, as a child, you're in love with Leonardo, the
teenage mutinja turtle. As you get older, you become in
love with Raphael, the hot, scandalous brother.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
He's always at the back because he's like a head
taller than everyone else, and he's like got like his
muscles are like double the size of the other turtles
and every and he has a temper. Yeah. Yeah, he's angry.
He's the thing. He's a bad boy. You think you
can fix it?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
And every iteration of teenage mutan Ninja Turtles has him
and Leonardo fighting. Yeah, and then they sort of come
together end. Do you think the next day of our life,
we'll just want the goofy, fun guy and we'll fall
in love with Michaelangelo?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Doubt it. I know when we're gonna get to we're like,
what fifteen Finally it's malist. Finally I just want a
nice guy to make me laugh. Okay, God.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
The other one I wanted to mention that we were
in this is the animated movie Anaesthesia.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Did you watch as a kid? Yeah, I watched it
when I was I want to say, like twelve thirteen,
that would be the appropriate age to watch it. This
is one of the first time you're talking about that.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I'm dimitri Yah again, a bad boy turned good. Maybe
that's the whole thing in kids movies. He was hot
voiced by John Cusack. Did they get together in the end.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
What I forget that is literally the entire point of
the movie, because I thought he was much older than her.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
No, he saves her from respute and at the end
and they fall in love and they get and they
run away in a lope.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
It's just wild because it's based on a true story.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, I know the end of No, I know that
part of it is not involved in it. Yeah, And
I think even now I was watching that as a
doult like the first time I went through rush On.
My friends and I were doing this like trip through Russia,
and so many nights on the train we watched we
watched that a station, Okay, and before we went to
visit classic Russian, classic Russian filmature, and then we went
(11:21):
to a tour of her home and heard everything that
happened to and I was like, oh.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah, I listened to it on a podcast recently. It's
really horrific. Yeah, it's really horrific. Anyway, not to bring
that down, but that's the animation. Okay, acted as our
sexual awakening. Okay, what do you need to say now? Now?
Can we move on to real life people? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Sure, because as if that's any less embarrassing with some
of the movies I want to talk about.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Okay, moving on from animations. We should put a market
here so people made that. If people are really uncomfortable
with that, you can start here this episode. Because the
real life movie that I had my sexual awakening to
the point where I was telling people as a child
was Titanic.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Can I say, on all my journeys through the internet
and I went to some dark places looking for the
movies that people said was their sexual awakening, Titanic is
really up there because so many people really took their
kids to see it, or to all that their kids
watched the vhs at home because it was such a
big thing, all the DVD later on and stuff. So
I think it's one of those adult movies that saw.
(12:21):
I saw this one quote where someone said I walked
into that movie a girl and I left a woman.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Oh that's I think you literally right. No, But I
watched it so it came out and then I think
I was around seven or eight. Yeah. Firstly, it's also
a very scary movie to watch as a child, Like
it's traumatic. Oh yeah, Like I couldn't watch the end.
I freaked when the water started rising to their waist.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, heaps of people die in horrific conditions, including children,
so that's fair.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
But the reason I watched it was firstly, my Nana,
God love her. She got it illegally burned on the
DVD when she went on her holiday to Japan, brought
it back in a case full of other DVD Prince
of Egypt was also in there. Great selections because she
used to be a history teacher, so she was like,
you need to watch this movie. It's a very important
(13:10):
part of history. Yeah, it's historically accurate and everything happened.
And it took me so long to watch it because
when Nanna tells you to watch something in my eyes
is gonna be she obviously forgot about some key scenes
in this movie. So she left me alone in her
bedroom to watch this movie by myself. Firstly, I was
traumatized to its end. But the car scene in it, yeah, hot,
oh my. Firstly, there's a full like frontal shots of
(13:32):
like nakedness.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
And there's so much build up too, because you have
the twirling dance scene.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
But as a kid, you don't say that. You just
suddenly see a naked woman. You're like, whoa are they
doing in the car. But the car with them like
her going, you're trembling, and I'm like, why is it trembling?
And then the cutaway because in the middle, which I
think a lot of people forget, Like when you're a
kid watching this, it's so confusing because it's so sexy
and you think you're safe, and then it cuts half
way through and then you see the ship hit the
(13:59):
ice and then it cuts back to the car scene
where it's like all steamy and the hand the hand
of the window. Also if this was a horror movie,
that would be a perfect horror movie scene, the hand
on the window. And then it was like in my
head for so long that when my cousins came over,
I was like, you guys have to watch this. And
then we sat down watched Titanic, and then I just
fast forward and then we're like, should we watch it again? Yeah?
(14:21):
Four times. But it was like that one movie where
I was like, oh, this is making me feel something
that I've never felt before in a movie.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
And so we because you actually don't really see anything.
You don't see anything, you don't see a full sexy
that's you.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I was not meant to see it.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah, you just knew something sexy had happened. It's so funny.
That's such a quintessential, like ninety sex scene of those movies,
and adults and kids would both watch. Well. I mean,
I love when we have more of a full sexy
in a movie. But it was such a thing. You
have the passionate kiss and then you'd see them on
the bed and you'd see their hands entangle, and then
the camera sweeps to it, and then it sweeps back
and everyone's just sitting there all happy and like the
sheets are all covering them. And so for such a
(14:55):
long time, I'm like, I just look, that's what sex
was like. You just had this moment of kissing. And
then as an adult you're like, oh no, yeah, But
the movies, the movies lied to us. I was waiting
for a panning, sweepway shot that never came except for
the iceberg. Yeah, okay, I've got mostly movies because that's
you know what I've got here. This is the second
time this week we've talked about this movie. And it's
(15:16):
an iconic movie that came out in nineteen ninety five
and I was such a child that I remember going
to see this and the thing was my mum's friend
took my sister, my brother, and I to see this
movie and then to get a happy meal afterwards. That's
that's giving you the idea of the age bracket. I
was in Okay God, and I went and saw this
movie called Casper. Oh, this is the first like live
action Casper.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Casper was that old.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
No, Casper's been out for like Cassa is way older
than I am. Just so you don't like that. The
comics and then the animated series, like the old school animation.
And this was the first big screen adaptation. And it
starred Christina Richie, who was the girl of that time.
You know, she'd been in Adam's family, she'd been a mermaid,
she'd been in so much.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
She was like the.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Child actor of every big movie. And she plays this
teenage girl called Cat who what's.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Actually wakened by Casper the ghost. I'm getting to that.
Oh my god, I'm getting to this. I really watched
the Hillary Duff.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah that is blash to be. I'm going to show
you a clip from this movie. In a second.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
You're going to leave this podcast to go watch it.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
You won't be scared, Emily, and let's just scared of
feelings okay, so well, let me set the scene first.
So Christina Richie's character Cat is a teenage girl. She's thirteen.
Her mother died when she was a child. Her dad
played by Bill Pullman, a very sexy actor from the nineties,
move into this huge, big mansion because her dad is
(16:38):
a therapist for ghosts, and he moves into this house
where lots of ghosts live, including Caspar, because this rich
woman is trying to get money that she thinks is
like in the home. And then Cat and Caspar tried
to and solve the mystery of like how he died.
They also think there's a way to bring him back
to life because he died when he was like a boy.
And so they go on this huge adventure which culminates
(16:58):
in the Cat throwing like this big Halloween party in
the mansion. And then for one night, Casper, who up
until this moment has been a cute little cartoon ghost
a cutesy little car and goes flying around the house,
then becomes for one night because he's like done good
things so he gets this reward. He becomes a human
(17:18):
boy to take her to this Halloween dance so they.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Can dance the same thing happened with Hillary Dove.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Okay, don't please, don't say Hillary uff thiss Okay, sorry, sorry, sorry,
And Casper's real life version is played by the boy
of that moment, who is the sexy guy in every
movie from that time, Devin Sawyer.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I think he says, see what, But I always thought
it was Sawyer growing up. And I'm just gonna say, yeah,
I go with a girl. You told you other was
a good dancer.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Can I just Casper? Can I say? I think a
lot of people for them. Caspar, both the animated character
and Devin Sawyer were their sexual awakening to the extent
where Christina and Devon went on to be in another
iconic movie now and Then. And they also have their
(18:05):
like neighborhood kids and like the seventies, like you know,
growing up and I love that. Yeah, the characters that
had that hot little kiss on the swings outside and.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Then she's like, if you tell anyone, I'll kill you.
So in both those movies, Oh okay, that's a good one.
We ever look at Caspar the same way again. I
never looked at it before. This is the first time
I'm looking at it like that. You need to watch
the whole movie. I think you'd really like it. Okay,
I've got one more. Okay, nineteen ninety seven, a year
(18:34):
after I was born, So I watched it a few
years later. It was one of those movies that I
watched for the first time on a family holiday with
my cousins, and it's so good, and it was the
only movie that you know when you're just fixated on
a movie as a kid. So we watched it every
night for a week of that whole day. I missed
that where you would just become and you make air
to watch it because they're like, this is the funniest
(18:55):
shit ever. Anyway, it is George of the Jungle. Oh
my god, we have double ups.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Okay, obviously I'm older than you, but I think that's
everyone's sexual awakening. But it wasn't meant to be you
know why two words Fraser Brendan Fraser.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
He is so good looking, Like I don't know why
they put him in that, Like, why do they make
him so muscly for that role? Well, because it's a play. Again,
it meant to be like Tarzan. Yeah, it's like a
poor man's Tarzan.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
It was meant to be a parody of Tarzan, which
kind of works, came out in nineteen ninety seven, starring
Brendan Fraser and Leslie Man, one of our faves.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
She looks so good in it, do you know what
it is?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Though, it's like he's not attractive for most of the movie,
Like he's so dorky.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
He's really goofy.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
He's silly and goofy, and even though he's shirtless through
the whole movie, he doesn't really get hot until later
on when he comes buit more serious and he and
Leslie Man's character fall in love.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
And he puts in his hair and a pony yeah,
and he saves her. Yeah. But I actually like the
scene that really made me go yeah was the first
scene when they meet where he saves her from that lion. Yeah,
and he's like spinning the line like a basketball and
like he throws the lion and he's like bad kitty.
And then he like takes her and then he smashes
(20:09):
into a tree and she parts is out and he's
like whoopsie. Yeah, and then he's just like holding her
with one arm, and I was like, well, that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
He's so goofyed innocence. I think for kids while we
have a sexual awakening with him. Is that he's very safe. Yeah,
he just seems like this lovely, genuine person, but he's
also ripped his hell. It's always a little bit sweaty,
and even though he's only been raised in the jungle
by himself, completely hairless, completely hairless like male groomed to Yeah,
so again, very non threatening because he doesn't look like
(20:36):
a grown oiled and completely oiled and his hair's really coughed,
wearing a long cloth the whole time.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
It's just well done.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah, great cinema, great beautiful. So my god, I have
not thought of George in the Jungle until today. I
want to watch it, watching.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Some clips on YouTube, and it's just everything's so good
about it. The soundtrack, the character's ape.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, such in this movie.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
That's important to remember.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Okay, I see your George of the Jungle, the sexual Awakening,
and I raise you the Mummy.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah, come on, that's yes. But also the Mummy wasn't
my sexual awakening because you watched it when you're a
bit older. Yeah, I watched it when I was a
bit older, and I just thought it was brilliant cinema.
And I was also extremely pissed, scared in that whole film. Really,
it's really scary. Maybe it's so scary like he's hot
in it, are really hot but very scared.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, I think that is one hundred percent in Brendan
Frase's hottest, hottest role as Rick, and I think it's
almost there's like a correlation between that and George of
the Jungle because again, most of the movie super goofy,
kind of silly, getting all the laughs, but then becomes
really hot and protective when I'm strong, when he's saving
when he's saving Rachel Weiss's character at the end.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Did you just keep playing those roles?
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Oh hundred Well he did three mummies and Rachel Weiss
didn't come back for the third one, so it wasn't
Marie Bellow played. It wasn't the same thing. But anyway,
that is still the hottest he'll ever be. Ah yeah,
absolute hottest. Okay, I have another one.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Okay, now this is well over time. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Well, this isn't a children's movie, but I wanted to
throw it in because I and everyone I know watched
it as a child. Interesting and this is the first
time I think I realized that people had sex. But
it was not the movie's This movie should not be
anyone sex sad. Okay, I'm saying I was definitely in
primary school. One of my friends took it from her
older sister's room the VHS and smuggled into our sleepover
(22:22):
and we watched it. I need to tell you this
time that I am the biggest fan of the stage
on about eleven or twelve, and I love Buffy the
Vampire Slayer. Yes, the greatest TV show of all time.
So I love Sarah Michelle Geller and I just see
her as a blonde, beautiful hero who never does anything wrong.
In Cruel Intentions, which came out in the nineties, it
stars Sarah Michelle Geller at Reese with a Spoon, Somelma Blair,
and Ryan Felippy, and it's about these teenagers who are
(22:44):
in New York and play these like sex games with
each other. Like Sarah Michelle Geller is the villain, and
she dares her stepbrother Ryan Fleepy to corrupt Reese with
the Sun's character.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Have you seen this movie? No, have you seen this movie?
Oh my god, Emily, we discussed it when we were
discussing the Sabrina Carpenter music video.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yes, oh, Ryan, Yes, they're all ready to on this movie.
They had met before, they fell in love even more
on this movie. So there's a scene in this movie
where he has to break up with her character, and
he said he threw up all day having to film
that because the thought of telling Reese with a spoon
that he wasn't in love with her was too much
for him.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Say. If he wanted to, he would us a prime
example of that.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
So, yeah, they'd been on the film. And then Sarah
Michelle Geller isn't she's brunette?
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Is this the first time she has been an evil person?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yes? Well, she started on like soap operas, but that
was way before my time, so I didn't know that.
I don't know if she was evil on that, but
I've only known her as a blonde hero, and so
has everyone else. So this was a massive deal. Even me,
who had no access to any kind of media or
anything like that at this time, knew that something shifted
in the world when Sarah Michelle Geller dyed her hair brunette.
Can you imagine, Yeah, because all brunettes are evil. Yes,
(23:52):
that's what this movie does teach you. Oh wow, And
was like the villain, and so she dares Ryan Philippe's character,
who's her stepbrother, to corrupt Reese with A Spoon's character
because she thinks she stole her boyfriend. And basically she's
like an advocate for keeping your virginity until marriage. So
she's like, I want you to sleep with her, and
basically ruined her entire reputation.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
And in the.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Midst of all that, they also corrupt Selma Blair's character
and he rainefully be has sex with her, and it's
the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
But they who have sex with Ryan. A lot of
people have sex with Ryan in this movie. Yeah, there's
a lot of new ned. There's a lot of kissing
by today's standards. It's not just were they actually teenagers
when they were filming?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
No, no, no, no, they're adults, but in the movie they're teenagers.
I just were watching it, so I'm eleven stage I'm
watching this movie. I'm just like, first of all, I'm
like shook to my core that anyone's even having sex.
I'm shook with to my core that people could be
so evil to each other because I've only watched Disney
movies up until now. Yeah, yeah, exactly, afusing and I'm
also just weirdly fascinated by this world and I in
(24:50):
this movie just being completely just shaken and scared, but
also thinking it is the greatest piece of cinema that
has ever existed. And part of me still thinks that
I'm going to play you a little clips so you
can just see what we're dealing with you. Okay, if
I win, then the heart of the car of yours,
it's mine of I went, I'll give you something you've
(25:12):
been obsessing about ever since our parents got married.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Be more specific.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
In English, I'll fuck your brains out.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
That's a very teen scene too. It had to be
something that was crazy that they look like my age
and they want to be sixteen.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
They're sixteen in the movie. Wait till later on when
they have their like school uniforms on. What I'm saying
is this movie was marketed to teenagers and by today
like it had like it does remind me of Gossip Girl. Yeah, no,
gossip Girl wishes it was this. I think this actually was. No.
Gossip Girls was a book series first. But I think
this huge success of this and how much teenagers watched
it and adults like it captured two markets and became
(25:52):
this huge thing, and so I think that was a
lot of why Gossip Girl eventually got off the ground
because they marketed off this. But this was marketed towards
like teens, y scary, so a lot of teens would
have For a lot of teens, this was their sex he.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
They would have been like, whoa is this? How you
do it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
So what? I like Sarah Michelle Gello, who's a teen idol,
but also Joshua Jackson's in it as yeah, pacy, No,
he's not Pacey Winner from Dawson's Creek, and he's they
dyed his hair borne for this. Everyone's hair color is changing.
And he is also just playing look like a Bond
creepy Okay, but he also plays a creepy character, not
because he's gay in this, but because he's like doing
(26:30):
terrible things to people, Like he's like, you know, trading
secrets and like, yeah, it's a whole thing.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
It's a whole thing. I want to watch that.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I honestly, I feel like this is like the second
time we've talked about this movie. Is it's terribly No, Emily,
it's just first of all, it's got incredible yeah, but
it's just so clever. And also Catherine is like low
key becomes a feminist hero. Oh okay, she has this
whole monologue towards the end that's really incredible. She's like,
just because I like to funck, does it mean I
have to, you know, be judged by this world? And
(26:58):
it's like, yeah, will be judged for like all the
people's lives you ruin, but you should be allowed to
have sex. So I love how we went from the
lion king to Simba's pride to cruel intentions.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
But you know what, that's growing up.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
That is your anyone's life, going from between to a teenager.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
What a rowing episode.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
So much sorry about that everyone. We'd love you to, like,
tell us your sexually awakened teen movies.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I'm sure so many.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
And also there's nothing embarrassing, Like there's a few things
we talked about they didn't make the episode, like the
animated robin Hood when he's the Fox, Oh yeah, yep,
or Aristocrats that's.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
A good one. Dat'll do a part two.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
We should do just the sexy animated movies we can't
stop thinking about. So what we're saying here this is
a safe space. There are no wrong answers, send us yours.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
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three pm on Monday. Bye bye,
So much you're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia
acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that this
podcast is recorded on. Hello, Spillers, this is Laura just
popping into your ears for the quick message. So it
is a public holiday in New South Wales today, so
we don't have a new episode of the Spills Afternoon
Show because we are taking a day off. But we
(00:33):
wanted to take this opportunity to reshare one of the funniest,
one of the most unexpected, and one of the most
unhinged movie round up episodes that Emily Vernon and I
have ever recorded together.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
We thought this might be deleted by our workplace. It wasn't.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
So here it is and we hope you enjoy this
very unhinged episode.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spell, your daily pop
culture fix. I'm m Vernon and I'm Laura Brodneck. How
do we.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Do it? I love how I looked at you to
intro and you just laughed and looked and just looked away.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I can't do this, embarrassed. Oh I'll tell them. Okay,
So last week this was Laura's idea. It wasn't as
no we're both responsible for this one. This happened after
the met Gala fiasco, where we were we mean our
record the whole day. Yeah, when the Metgala finished. I
think it was at that we were a bit delusional.
(01:35):
We were very tired, and we realized that we still
have a job to do.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
So we went through lots of things about like movies,
we hate, movies, are embarrassed about things we loved, things
we loved as teenagers. And somehow, in our adult conversation,
in this brainstorm, sitting like basically on the floor next
to my desk in the office, we decided to do
you say.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
We decided to do. I mean it's going to be
in the title, so everyone knows. We decided to do
an episode on the movies and TV shows that sexually
awakened us as teenagers. Please add that in as teenagers women.
If we put together specially awakened, that would be very interesting. Yes,
So look, everyone has those Actually, I think one of
(02:16):
mine when I was like nineteen, Okay, maybe you shouldn't.
That's something for you on pack. Okay, we'll get it.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
That's okay, there's not It's never too late to have
a sexual awakening. That's for weird conversation for a different podcast. So, yes,
we're gonna be talking through some of the TV shows
and movies because everyone has them, especially I was. I
really did like a lot of research for this, and
I found so many. Well, I wanted to find which
other movies and TV shows people have been sexually awakened to,
and there's oh my god, there's many there.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Anything Cycle, well, I mean some kind.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Of like more adult Fair, a lot of people like
that live action Peter Pan that came out many years ago.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
That we're not that we're in judgeable.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
We're about to say so we're going to go through
the movies and TV shows that we think sexually awakened us.
But also listeners, because like I said, everyone's got those
characters and movies that you watch as a kid. You're like, wait,
what's happening? Yes, why am I sexually attracted to a person?
Feeling like I've never thought about kissing a cartoon character before,
but now I am, Which actually brings us to the
(03:17):
first part of this show, which is, let's go all
the way back to like very very early sexual awakenings,
which is animated movies and TV shows and for anyone
who's out there who is saying I've never been sexually
attracted to an animated character.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
You're lying, You're lying.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
And maybe your parents didn't love you because they obviously
didn't show you any good movies or TV shows, or.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Maybe they knew you were a little dirty, which is
what they did. They didn't show you any of these.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
So we actually have we both won't want to say
and nearly at the same time, okay, tell us you're
like sexual awaking cartoon one, two three, and we said
the same movie at the same time, which is.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
The Lion King two? Even say the full title The
Lion King Too, the full title, the fact that you
know the full.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Title, the full title The Lion King Too, Simbers Pride,
simbers Pride, Simba's Pride, which it's not simber by the
way that we sectually no, which is a straight to
DVD follow up animation of The Lion King, straight to DVD,
not even straight to DVD, maybe even straight to VHS.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
So our parents played a big part of getting the
for us to give it to us.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I must say that I was a real child when
this came out. This came out in nineteen ninety eight,
So were you even a lie, then.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I would watched it.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I obviously waits it later, but it's you know, these
DVDs live forever.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
So The Lion King to Simba's Pride takes place after
the events of the Lion King generation. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah, the next generation.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Sexy, hot, fun, just a bit more foot loose and
fancy free. There's still a divide on the Pride lands
between Simbers Pride and the evil Lions who live in
the shadow Land.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Still problematic. Yeah, the evil Lions are still much darker
than than.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Simbers, their scars descendants. Yeah, that's the whole thing. So
Simba and Nahah have a daughter called Kiara, and her
voice is really beautiful and when you listen to it,
you're like, that doesn't never cam because she's got a
very distinct voice.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
So the whole thing around this is that The Lion
King is based off Shakespeare's Hamlet. So that's why it's
very dark and twisty with family members, you know, trying
to kill each other and whatnot. The Lion King to
Simber's Pride is based on Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet. That's
why it's so sexy because we love a little bit
of forbidden love. So Simba's daughter Nala falls in love
(05:33):
with Kovium, saying Scars nephew. Yes, so it's okay, No
one's related Cascar and oh they're adopted and move faster where,
which I learned in the.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Recent linking movie Mapasa. I love this. I actually like
they're lions. It would be fine if they were related.
It's not find for us making this awaken.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
What we're just saying is we're not weird. It's all
above board. Yeah, okay, fall in love and it's a
whole big thing because their families are feuding, but they
still come together in a really beautiful way. And there's
no other way to say this, but Coo, the animated
teenage lion, super hot.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Very muscly so muscling and a very well maintained Maine.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
It's also because he's a bad boy, saves her life.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
He's trying to gain her trust to get into over
the shoulder. He didn't even lions had sholders. How doesn't
even work? And I just used to lust after him
and I was a child. I think the comparison to
Scar right, Yes, Scar was like creepy and like looked
much older and quite skinny. Yeah, and like kov was
very muscly and very broad but with a kind face. Yeah. Great, guys,
(06:44):
Yeah so hot.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Can I just tell you something, don't google the man
who voices kovu Oh otherwise, I'm sure he's lovely and
very talented. Oh no, sorry, he's not what I imagined.
It kind of ruins the fantasy I thought he would
be hot.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
As we were talking about that, we started discussing other
animated properties.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Wait, you're not going to say the scene that made
you realize Wait what scene? Did you say? My scene
in lin King two? Yeah, was like the first time
we meet adult kovid. Oh that's when you had the
hot st Yeah, where his mom was like walking around
in circles, and then he was like explaining what he
had to do to infiltrate Simba's pride, and he was like,
(07:27):
Simba is the enemy, I must kill him. Just as
an eight year old, I was like, well, I want
that guy so hot.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I wish that line would infiltrate my family and pretend
to fall in love with me and then actually fall
in love with me, which is what happened everyone.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah, I think mine's see him.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Well the whole movie, but I think basically when he
decides to fight alongside simber and and Ki at the
end because he falls in love with her, and when
she gets pushed over the cliff and he like jumps
down to save her at the end, when his mother's like.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I'll never let it go. Have we done the whole
podcast on lin King too? Okay?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Boilers and his brother Yeah, yeah, has no choice, really
goes through it anyway?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
What is what we can't the whole podcast? Ones Pride?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
What is the other animation that you wanted to mention
that you wanted to lay at the table? Okay, obviously
this is a safe space. No one share this, No
one send this to our families. This is just between
us and the spillers this whole episode.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Okay. The next animation I want to talk about is
teenage mutant ninja turtles. Okay, but you're gonna hate this. No,
really make no, Emily, No, they look so real. No
that I was so on board with you. Raphael's way
more musclia and.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
No, but they look like mutants in that you can't
be a sexual. That version of the movie is not
for children.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Those beef. I was like twenty years old.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Okay, so I grew up with the gross Those turtles
are so horrific looking, I can't.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Really good and they're quite kind, so you check yourself.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
No, I grew up with the animated version, which was incredible,
had really amazing men in the costumes. No, I love
that one too. Okay, that's my favorite one. That's the
one I actually with them. I also think you can
tell where you are in life with which teenage mutan
ninja turtle you're in love with, because I think when
you first start out, you gravitate towards Leonardo, who's like
the good guy, the lead brother. You know, he's got
(09:22):
all the skills packed into one, and you're like, yeah,
i'd be attracted to the good guy. But as you
get older and you start to want to experiment more.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
There's one turtle that's much bigger than the other turtles,
and that's across all iterations of this franchise, including the
maked Box. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Like, as a child, you're in love with Leonardo, the
teenage mutinja turtle. As you get older, you become in
love with Raphael, the hot, scandalous brother.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
He's always at the back because he's like a head
taller than everyone else, and he's like got like his
muscles are like double the size of the other turtles
and every and he has a temper. Yeah. Yeah, he's angry.
He's the thing. He's a bad boy. You think you
can fix it?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
And every iteration of teenage mutan Ninja Turtles has him
and Leonardo fighting. Yeah, and then they sort of come
together end. Do you think the next day of our life,
we'll just want the goofy, fun guy and we'll fall
in love with Michaelangelo?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Doubt it. I know when we're gonna get to we're like,
what fifteen Finally it's malist. Finally I just want a
nice guy to make me laugh. Okay, God.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
The other one I wanted to mention that we were
in this is the animated movie Anaesthesia.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Did you watch as a kid? Yeah, I watched it
when I was I want to say, like twelve thirteen,
that would be the appropriate age to watch it. This
is one of the first time you're talking about that.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I'm dimitri Yah again, a bad boy turned good. Maybe
that's the whole thing in kids movies. He was hot
voiced by John Cusack. Did they get together in the end.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
What I forget that is literally the entire point of
the movie, because I thought he was much older than her.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
No, he saves her from respute and at the end
and they fall in love and they get and they
run away in a lope.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
It's just wild because it's based on a true story.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, I know the end of No, I know that
part of it is not involved in it. Yeah, And
I think even now I was watching that as a
doult like the first time I went through rush On.
My friends and I were doing this like trip through Russia,
and so many nights on the train we watched we
watched that a station, Okay, and before we went to
visit classic Russian, classic Russian filmature, and then we went
(11:21):
to a tour of her home and heard everything that
happened to and I was like, oh.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah, I listened to it on a podcast recently. It's
really horrific. Yeah, it's really horrific. Anyway, not to bring
that down, but that's the animation. Okay, acted as our
sexual awakening. Okay, what do you need to say now? Now?
Can we move on to real life people? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Sure, because as if that's any less embarrassing with some
of the movies I want to talk about.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Okay, moving on from animations. We should put a market
here so people made that. If people are really uncomfortable
with that, you can start here this episode. Because the
real life movie that I had my sexual awakening to
the point where I was telling people as a child
was Titanic.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Can I say, on all my journeys through the internet
and I went to some dark places looking for the
movies that people said was their sexual awakening, Titanic is
really up there because so many people really took their
kids to see it, or to all that their kids
watched the vhs at home because it was such a
big thing, all the DVD later on and stuff. So
I think it's one of those adult movies that saw.
(12:21):
I saw this one quote where someone said I walked
into that movie a girl and I left a woman.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Oh that's I think you literally right. No, But I
watched it so it came out and then I think
I was around seven or eight. Yeah. Firstly, it's also
a very scary movie to watch as a child, Like
it's traumatic. Oh yeah, Like I couldn't watch the end.
I freaked when the water started rising to their waist.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, heaps of people die in horrific conditions, including children,
so that's fair.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
But the reason I watched it was firstly, my Nana,
God love her. She got it illegally burned on the
DVD when she went on her holiday to Japan, brought
it back in a case full of other DVD Prince
of Egypt was also in there. Great selections because she
used to be a history teacher, so she was like,
you need to watch this movie. It's a very important
(13:10):
part of history. Yeah, it's historically accurate and everything happened.
And it took me so long to watch it because
when Nanna tells you to watch something in my eyes
is gonna be she obviously forgot about some key scenes
in this movie. So she left me alone in her
bedroom to watch this movie by myself. Firstly, I was
traumatized to its end. But the car scene in it, yeah, hot,
oh my. Firstly, there's a full like frontal shots of
(13:32):
like nakedness.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
And there's so much build up too, because you have
the twirling dance scene.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
But as a kid, you don't say that. You just
suddenly see a naked woman. You're like, whoa are they
doing in the car. But the car with them like
her going, you're trembling, and I'm like, why is it trembling?
And then the cutaway because in the middle, which I
think a lot of people forget, Like when you're a
kid watching this, it's so confusing because it's so sexy
and you think you're safe, and then it cuts half
way through and then you see the ship hit the
(13:59):
ice and then it cuts back to the car scene
where it's like all steamy and the hand the hand
of the window. Also if this was a horror movie,
that would be a perfect horror movie scene, the hand
on the window. And then it was like in my
head for so long that when my cousins came over,
I was like, you guys have to watch this. And
then we sat down watched Titanic, and then I just
fast forward and then we're like, should we watch it again? Yeah?
(14:21):
Four times. But it was like that one movie where
I was like, oh, this is making me feel something
that I've never felt before in a movie.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
And so we because you actually don't really see anything.
You don't see anything, you don't see a full sexy
that's you.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I was not meant to see it.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah, you just knew something sexy had happened. It's so funny.
That's such a quintessential, like ninety sex scene of those movies,
and adults and kids would both watch. Well. I mean,
I love when we have more of a full sexy
in a movie. But it was such a thing. You
have the passionate kiss and then you'd see them on
the bed and you'd see their hands entangle, and then
the camera sweeps to it, and then it sweeps back
and everyone's just sitting there all happy and like the
sheets are all covering them. And so for such a
(14:55):
long time, I'm like, I just look, that's what sex
was like. You just had this moment of kissing. And
then as an adult you're like, oh no, yeah, But
the movies, the movies lied to us. I was waiting
for a panning, sweepway shot that never came except for
the iceberg. Yeah, okay, I've got mostly movies because that's
you know what I've got here. This is the second
time this week we've talked about this movie. And it's
(15:16):
an iconic movie that came out in nineteen ninety five
and I was such a child that I remember going
to see this and the thing was my mum's friend
took my sister, my brother, and I to see this
movie and then to get a happy meal afterwards. That's
that's giving you the idea of the age bracket. I
was in Okay God, and I went and saw this
movie called Casper. Oh, this is the first like live
action Casper.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Casper was that old.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
No, Casper's been out for like Cassa is way older
than I am. Just so you don't like that. The
comics and then the animated series, like the old school animation.
And this was the first big screen adaptation. And it
starred Christina Richie, who was the girl of that time.
You know, she'd been in Adam's family, she'd been a mermaid,
she'd been in so much.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
She was like the.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Child actor of every big movie. And she plays this
teenage girl called Cat who what's.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Actually wakened by Casper the ghost. I'm getting to that.
Oh my god, I'm getting to this. I really watched
the Hillary Duff.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah that is blash to be. I'm going to show
you a clip from this movie. In a second.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
You're going to leave this podcast to go watch it.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
You won't be scared, Emily, and let's just scared of
feelings okay, so well, let me set the scene first.
So Christina Richie's character Cat is a teenage girl. She's thirteen.
Her mother died when she was a child. Her dad
played by Bill Pullman, a very sexy actor from the nineties,
move into this huge, big mansion because her dad is
(16:38):
a therapist for ghosts, and he moves into this house
where lots of ghosts live, including Caspar, because this rich
woman is trying to get money that she thinks is
like in the home. And then Cat and Caspar tried
to and solve the mystery of like how he died.
They also think there's a way to bring him back
to life because he died when he was like a boy.
And so they go on this huge adventure which culminates
(16:58):
in the Cat throwing like this big Halloween party in
the mansion. And then for one night, Casper, who up
until this moment has been a cute little cartoon ghost
a cutesy little car and goes flying around the house,
then becomes for one night because he's like done good
things so he gets this reward. He becomes a human
(17:18):
boy to take her to this Halloween dance so they.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Can dance the same thing happened with Hillary Dove.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Okay, don't please, don't say Hillary uff thiss Okay, sorry, sorry, sorry,
And Casper's real life version is played by the boy
of that moment, who is the sexy guy in every
movie from that time, Devin Sawyer.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I think he says, see what, But I always thought
it was Sawyer growing up. And I'm just gonna say, yeah,
I go with a girl. You told you other was
a good dancer.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Can I just Casper? Can I say? I think a
lot of people for them. Caspar, both the animated character
and Devin Sawyer were their sexual awakening to the extent
where Christina and Devon went on to be in another
iconic movie now and Then. And they also have their
(18:05):
like neighborhood kids and like the seventies, like you know,
growing up and I love that. Yeah, the characters that
had that hot little kiss on the swings outside and.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Then she's like, if you tell anyone, I'll kill you.
So in both those movies, Oh okay, that's a good one.
We ever look at Caspar the same way again. I
never looked at it before. This is the first time
I'm looking at it like that. You need to watch
the whole movie. I think you'd really like it. Okay,
I've got one more. Okay, nineteen ninety seven, a year
(18:34):
after I was born, So I watched it a few
years later. It was one of those movies that I
watched for the first time on a family holiday with
my cousins, and it's so good, and it was the
only movie that you know when you're just fixated on
a movie as a kid. So we watched it every
night for a week of that whole day. I missed
that where you would just become and you make air
to watch it because they're like, this is the funniest
(18:55):
shit ever. Anyway, it is George of the Jungle. Oh
my god, we have double ups.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Okay, obviously I'm older than you, but I think that's
everyone's sexual awakening. But it wasn't meant to be you
know why two words Fraser Brendan Fraser.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
He is so good looking, Like I don't know why
they put him in that, Like, why do they make
him so muscly for that role? Well, because it's a play. Again,
it meant to be like Tarzan. Yeah, it's like a
poor man's Tarzan.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
It was meant to be a parody of Tarzan, which
kind of works, came out in nineteen ninety seven, starring
Brendan Fraser and Leslie Man, one of our faves.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
She looks so good in it, do you know what
it is?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Though, it's like he's not attractive for most of the movie,
Like he's so dorky.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
He's really goofy.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
He's silly and goofy, and even though he's shirtless through
the whole movie, he doesn't really get hot until later
on when he comes buit more serious and he and
Leslie Man's character fall in love.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
And he puts in his hair and a pony yeah,
and he saves her. Yeah. But I actually like the
scene that really made me go yeah was the first
scene when they meet where he saves her from that lion. Yeah,
and he's like spinning the line like a basketball and
like he throws the lion and he's like bad kitty.
And then he like takes her and then he smashes
(20:09):
into a tree and she parts is out and he's
like whoopsie. Yeah, and then he's just like holding her
with one arm, and I was like, well, that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
He's so goofyed innocence. I think for kids while we
have a sexual awakening with him. Is that he's very safe. Yeah,
he just seems like this lovely, genuine person, but he's
also ripped his hell. It's always a little bit sweaty,
and even though he's only been raised in the jungle
by himself, completely hairless, completely hairless like male groomed to Yeah,
so again, very non threatening because he doesn't look like
(20:36):
a grown oiled and completely oiled and his hair's really coughed,
wearing a long cloth the whole time.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
It's just well done.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah, great cinema, great beautiful. So my god, I have
not thought of George in the Jungle until today. I
want to watch it, watching.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Some clips on YouTube, and it's just everything's so good
about it. The soundtrack, the character's ape.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, such in this movie.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
That's important to remember.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Okay, I see your George of the Jungle, the sexual Awakening,
and I raise you the Mummy.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah, come on, that's yes. But also the Mummy wasn't
my sexual awakening because you watched it when you're a
bit older. Yeah, I watched it when I was a
bit older, and I just thought it was brilliant cinema.
And I was also extremely pissed, scared in that whole film. Really,
it's really scary. Maybe it's so scary like he's hot
in it, are really hot but very scared.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, I think that is one hundred percent in Brendan
Frase's hottest, hottest role as Rick, and I think it's
almost there's like a correlation between that and George of
the Jungle because again, most of the movie super goofy,
kind of silly, getting all the laughs, but then becomes
really hot and protective when I'm strong, when he's saving
when he's saving Rachel Weiss's character at the end.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Did you just keep playing those roles?
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Oh hundred Well he did three mummies and Rachel Weiss
didn't come back for the third one, so it wasn't
Marie Bellow played. It wasn't the same thing. But anyway,
that is still the hottest he'll ever be. Ah yeah,
absolute hottest. Okay, I have another one.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Okay, now this is well over time. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Well, this isn't a children's movie, but I wanted to
throw it in because I and everyone I know watched
it as a child. Interesting and this is the first
time I think I realized that people had sex. But
it was not the movie's This movie should not be
anyone sex sad. Okay, I'm saying I was definitely in
primary school. One of my friends took it from her
older sister's room the VHS and smuggled into our sleepover
(22:22):
and we watched it. I need to tell you this
time that I am the biggest fan of the stage
on about eleven or twelve, and I love Buffy the
Vampire Slayer. Yes, the greatest TV show of all time.
So I love Sarah Michelle Geller and I just see
her as a blonde, beautiful hero who never does anything wrong.
In Cruel Intentions, which came out in the nineties, it
stars Sarah Michelle Geller at Reese with a Spoon, Somelma Blair,
and Ryan Felippy, and it's about these teenagers who are
(22:44):
in New York and play these like sex games with
each other. Like Sarah Michelle Geller is the villain, and
she dares her stepbrother Ryan Fleepy to corrupt Reese with
the Sun's character.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Have you seen this movie? No, have you seen this movie?
Oh my god, Emily, we discussed it when we were
discussing the Sabrina Carpenter music video.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yes, oh, Ryan, Yes, they're all ready to on this movie.
They had met before, they fell in love even more
on this movie. So there's a scene in this movie
where he has to break up with her character, and
he said he threw up all day having to film
that because the thought of telling Reese with a spoon
that he wasn't in love with her was too much
for him.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Say. If he wanted to, he would us a prime
example of that.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
So, yeah, they'd been on the film. And then Sarah
Michelle Geller isn't she's brunette?
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Is this the first time she has been an evil person?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yes? Well, she started on like soap operas, but that
was way before my time, so I didn't know that.
I don't know if she was evil on that, but
I've only known her as a blonde hero, and so
has everyone else. So this was a massive deal. Even me,
who had no access to any kind of media or
anything like that at this time, knew that something shifted
in the world when Sarah Michelle Geller dyed her hair brunette.
Can you imagine, Yeah, because all brunettes are evil. Yes,
(23:52):
that's what this movie does teach you. Oh wow, And
was like the villain, and so she dares Ryan Philippe's character,
who's her stepbrother, to corrupt Reese with A Spoon's character
because she thinks she stole her boyfriend. And basically she's
like an advocate for keeping your virginity until marriage. So
she's like, I want you to sleep with her, and
basically ruined her entire reputation.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
And in the.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Midst of all that, they also corrupt Selma Blair's character
and he rainefully be has sex with her, and it's
the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
But they who have sex with Ryan. A lot of
people have sex with Ryan in this movie. Yeah, there's
a lot of new ned. There's a lot of kissing
by today's standards. It's not just were they actually teenagers
when they were filming?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
No, no, no, no, they're adults, but in the movie they're teenagers.
I just were watching it, so I'm eleven stage I'm
watching this movie. I'm just like, first of all, I'm
like shook to my core that anyone's even having sex.
I'm shook with to my core that people could be
so evil to each other because I've only watched Disney
movies up until now. Yeah, yeah, exactly, afusing and I'm
also just weirdly fascinated by this world and I in
(24:50):
this movie just being completely just shaken and scared, but
also thinking it is the greatest piece of cinema that
has ever existed. And part of me still thinks that
I'm going to play you a little clips so you
can just see what we're dealing with you. Okay, if
I win, then the heart of the car of yours,
it's mine of I went, I'll give you something you've
(25:12):
been obsessing about ever since our parents got married.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Be more specific.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
In English, I'll fuck your brains out.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
That's a very teen scene too. It had to be
something that was crazy that they look like my age
and they want to be sixteen.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
They're sixteen in the movie. Wait till later on when
they have their like school uniforms on. What I'm saying
is this movie was marketed to teenagers and by today
like it had like it does remind me of Gossip Girl. Yeah, no,
gossip Girl wishes it was this. I think this actually was. No.
Gossip Girls was a book series first. But I think
this huge success of this and how much teenagers watched
it and adults like it captured two markets and became
(25:52):
this huge thing, and so I think that was a
lot of why Gossip Girl eventually got off the ground
because they marketed off this. But this was marketed towards
like teens, y scary, so a lot of teens would
have For a lot of teens, this was their sex he.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
They would have been like, whoa is this? How you
do it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
So what? I like Sarah Michelle Gello, who's a teen idol,
but also Joshua Jackson's in it as yeah, pacy, No,
he's not Pacey Winner from Dawson's Creek, and he's they
dyed his hair borne for this. Everyone's hair color is changing.
And he is also just playing look like a Bond
creepy Okay, but he also plays a creepy character, not
because he's gay in this, but because he's like doing
(26:30):
terrible things to people, Like he's like, you know, trading
secrets and like, yeah, it's a whole thing.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
It's a whole thing. I want to watch that.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I honestly, I feel like this is like the second
time we've talked about this movie. Is it's terribly No, Emily,
it's just first of all, it's got incredible yeah, but
it's just so clever. And also Catherine is like low
key becomes a feminist hero. Oh okay, she has this
whole monologue towards the end that's really incredible. She's like,
just because I like to funck, does it mean I
have to, you know, be judged by this world? And
(26:58):
it's like, yeah, will be judged for like all the
people's lives you ruin, but you should be allowed to
have sex. So I love how we went from the
lion king to Simba's pride to cruel intentions.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
But you know what, that's growing up.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
That is your anyone's life, going from between to a teenager.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
What a rowing episode.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
So much sorry about that everyone. We'd love you to, like,
tell us your sexually awakened teen movies.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I'm sure so many.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
And also there's nothing embarrassing, Like there's a few things
we talked about they didn't make the episode, like the
animated robin Hood when he's the Fox, Oh yeah, yep,
or Aristocrats that's.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
A good one. Dat'll do a part two.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
We should do just the sexy animated movies we can't
stop thinking about. So what we're saying here this is
a safe space. There are no wrong answers, send us yours.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yes, you can d m us on Instagram or you
can also dm us on our TikTok account at The
Spill podcast. We're posting a heap on there, but thank
you so much for listening to this episode. The Spill
is produced by Sashurtanic with sound production by Scott Stronik,
and we'll be back here on your podcast feed at
three pm on Monday. Bye bye,
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