August 28, 2025 • 38 mins
It’s the moment we’ve all been waiting for, Meghan Markle’s lifestyle Netflix series With Love, Meghan is back with a whole new round of guests, sprinkled flowers, terrifying seafood, and questionable art practices that horrified us to no end.
From a jump scare courtesy of John Legend, to the moment one of Meghan Markle’s kitchen appliances personally insulted us and so much more, it’s time for a brutally honest review of this beautiful and confusing series.
Listen to our brutally honest review review of With Love, Meghan Season 1 here
And check out our other brutally honest reviews here:
A Brutally Honest Review Of And Just Like That's Final Season
A Brutally Honest Review Of We Were Liars
A Brutally Honest Review Of Clueless As It Turns 30
Want more from The Spill? Check out our brand new podcast Watch Party here.
THE END BITS
Support independent women's media
The Spill podcast is on TikTok here and on Instagram here and you can check out our vodcast on Youtube here.
Read all the latest entertainment news on Mamamia... here.
To explore more Mamamia shows including those mentioned in this show browse here
Do you have feedback or a topic you want us to discuss on The Spill? Send us a voice message, or send us an email thespill@mamamia.com.au and we'll come back to you ASAP!
CREDITS
Hosts: Laura Brodnik and Em Vernem
Executive Producer: Monisha Iswaran
Audio Producer: Scott Stronach
Mamamia studios are styled with furniture from Fenton and Fenton.
Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
So much.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You're listening to Amma Mia podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders
that this podcast is recorded on From Mamma Mia. Welcome
to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I'm Laura Brodnick and I'm Burnham.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
And today we have a show that we have been
waiting months to bring you because it is our brutally
honest review of With Love Megan on Netflix Part two,
Part two. I said, I almost did like the Little Fred.
I thought I was in season six, Sex and City.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
We are not.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I wish I was there. I love the idea of
spending time together and.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Finding new ways to show with people you care.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Look at that, Oh my gosh, I could do this
every day.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Let's get creative and you learn something new.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
NICs be done.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I don't know what's happening, and I'm so glad you
came to show me how to do this is working.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Today's like getting out of your comfort zone.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I have no idea where to start. Everybody should have
one of those homes three you think so, this is
one of the most joyful days, so comforting, very comforting.
After what I want to make are things I want
to share this looks fantastic.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
There are easy ways to show up lovingly.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Oh, she has given me a goose bump. That is
so lovely.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
That's delicious.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
We also did a brutally honest review of season one,
so if you haven't listened to that, we will link
it in our show notes because I think that was
one of my favorite brittley honest reviews because I was
a bit delirious because I remember watching all eight episodes
back to back. I felt like the episodes and season
one were a bit longer, like they were more around
the forty minute mark. And I just came into the
(02:03):
office after watching the last episode going I'm ready.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I'm ready to write you.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Were shell shocked and determined.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Shell shocked and determined.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
And we do a really honest review, which are episodes
that we talk about the biggest TV shows and movies
that have been released. And normally this is the part
of the show where I'd say, if you haven't watched
it all, go and watch it because we're going to
go deep on spoilers. However, there are no spoilers with this.
If you haven't watched it, that's fine.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Imagine if they had like a full plot twist.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Well, that's what I thought when you said this morning.
I hadn't watched last fifteen minutes, the last episode. I
was like, imagine if I was like, oh my god,
things go off the rails. They didn't. They didn't.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
It's a very much a home lifestyle, warm, friendly sh
It's like a show you put on in the background
while you do something else.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I mean, to an extent, it wouldn't be my choice
of a background show. But Yes, with Love Megan season
one came out a few months ago, and as soon
as it finished, Meghan mark or herself let us know.
I know she's Megan Sussex now, but for all times sakes,
I'll call her Megan Marc Miny Kayling.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
We'll be like, hey, no one call her Megan Markle.
Don't make my mistake.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Mindy Kayling's not watching the season because she's like, I
can't revisit the tray of sitting in that hothouse and
making a tea party and they being publicly caught out
on the internet for months on it.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
I was actually thinking about that episode in particular while
watching the season two. Sorry to segue, but like this
season is I feel like way more educational in the
way that she's teaching like her friends to do things.
And it felt like that episode of Mindy Kaling was
more like here's something you can do with your kids.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yeah, And I was.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Like, then why is Mindy there?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Because Mindy was like, I pay people to do this.
I don't do it myself because I'm super busy and
I run a huge production company.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Every other episode like, it's like these adults learning things
that they could do as adults, And for Mindy it
was just like, here's something you can do for your kids.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
She was like, no thanks, which is interesting because that's
what Megan Michael came out and said after the season
one aired, is that they had filmed it all in
one go. Yes, so season two was locked and loaded,
so there's no learnings, no feedback, there was no time
to go back and reshuffle things and redo things. What
they filmed is what they had. So you and I
have worked. I watched you in one night. I think
(04:12):
you watched it across two nights.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I started. I did four episodes last night and four
episodes this morning.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
A healthy way to do it. I was I can't
even describe this date. I was in by the time.
I did eight hours in one night after working a
full day in this office of Megan Michael's new show.
But take me through your thought journey of watching it.
What was your experience?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Like, So I had half a bottle of wine.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I did do you can't watch that so much and
if you're not drinking, but like, we couldn't watch it.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
So we also have a massive work project coming up.
So I was in that mindset of like working on
that project while also trying to watch and enjoy. Yeah
with love Megan, I have to pause there. Yeah, well
there is a comma, so you have to pause. And
so I had half a bottle of wine. In the
first two and a half episodes, I was like, you
know what, I think this might be my.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Favorite show of the year.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Really, I loved it so much in the first episode, correct, okay,
well it is. I came kind of I was.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Really into it.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I had so much fun, and then like I started
to sober up and I was like, oh, this is
just this is the exact.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Same thing that we watch.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Is so wrong.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
This is the exact same thing we watched last season.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Yeah, But because I knew that they filmed it back
to back and it was like this big multimillion dollar
deal that they had with Netflix.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
That's the reason she had to do this show in
the first place. I went in being a bit.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
More kinder towards what I was going to experience, So
because I knew it wasn't going to be different from
season one.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
It was literally going to be the same thing.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
So I went in and I feel like my outtake
from this season is much more She's just doing what
she wants to do.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I'm going to leave her alone.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Well that's why thing a lot of people hate watched it. Well, actually,
as we know, a lot of people didn't watch it
all because it was number three hundred on Netflix. In
saying that though it had over five million views, it's
just that Netflix numbers are so huge. On network television
that would be like the biggest show of the year.
So it's not that people didn't watch it, it's just
that it didn't crack the Netflix like top thirty.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
I want to know, like all the shows that cracked
the Top thirty didn't get the multimillion dollar deal going yeah, hey,
where's our money.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Well that's the thing too, is like there's been this
big song and dance about Meghan and Harry having this
one hundred million dollar deal with Netflix and the fact
that it expires in September of this year, so it's
expired now and they won't be renewing it. And I
think that's been painted as a bit of our like
Meghan and Harry are failures. Netflix doesn't want anything to
do with them. But it's more so that Netflix is
cutting all of those big long term content deals and
(06:37):
doing project by project, which a lot of media companies
are doing at the moment, because the Obama's also had
their deal ended, and that's not making headlines, but they're
just like, we're not in the business of now giving
people a huge lump sum of cash and just seeing
what they make and green lighting projects. It's like, you
bring us a project we want, We're going to buy it.
So Meghan and Harry are still working with.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Netflix, right, Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I mean, I don't know why I've become their defender,
but I'm a defender of truth.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
That's before we get into it.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I do want to point out the biggest issue when
it comes to filming back to back. The worst thing
that can happen when you're filming a show back to
back is if your dog dies. Oh no, I know,
I know Guy the Beagle, but it's good.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Because other one.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
And then we saw a little bit of mom and
Mia yeah yeah, ah, oh my god, because I grew
up with beagles. And when I saw a guy there,
knowing that guy's not with us anymore and he's still
such a main.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Character, that's good. They can't edit him out. That's his
final like role, his final big role.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
And then like Chrissy Teagan sees him and she's like,
who's this and Meghan's like, it's guy. And Chrisy's like,
I love how he's just chilling. And Megan's like, yeah,
he's an old man. And I was like, Christy, you
have no idea what's about.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
You don't know what's about?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Did you see that? The day that With Love Meghan
season two came out, Meghan Minkle shared on her Instagram stories,
so she did this video of her walking into her
beautiful kitchen, like her real life kitchen film there and
little Lilla Bette is there and she runs past in
her pajamas and she said that Prince Harry had given
her this gift. And it's a huge, huge, blown up
black and white photo of her and Guy. So he
(08:10):
must have known Prince Harry h as she calls him,
must have known that it would be a really traumatic
day because the show was coming out and guys in it,
and he passed away. So he gifted her this big
black and white portrait of Guy to be like he's
still here.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
It was just really really sad. It was like, that
was my plot twist and the show. Okay, the first
scene of Guy, I was like, it's Guy.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
No, I forgot I forgot yes, So that's because they
fill him back to back, so guys in the whole
thing and then he passed away. I kind of thought
of that, but that's so true. So we Love Meghan.
Part two follows a similar kind of flow to the
first series, which is some celebrity guests, some friends of
Meghan Markle and some people she's never met, come in
(08:53):
and out of this house that they've rented, which people
are really upset about. But of course they've rented a house.
What are they going to do put up a TV
set for weeks in her own home where her children are.
She actually never said I loved how people thought they
were being detectives. They're like I've discovered it's on her
real house, and it was like, I do think that
wasn't being hidden.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I mean I did write an article about it.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Okay, you discovered it, I discovered or very I think
it was fun to point out, but I just don't
think it was the big kind of like we've got
you moments.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
It was more funny in the way that the whole
show is about being a hostess and creating a home
and building your home, and she's like opening these drawers
and going in the pantry as if she lives there
when she definitely does.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
She definitely doesn't. That's so true. But yeah, but I
think I think in the second season we have moved on.
We have moved on.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
At least it's the same house that's the first season.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah, no, exactly. So it's the same house. So guests
come in and out, and she either cooks with them,
prepares things with them, or teaches them a little home
craft tricks.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
And or she'll have like a jump card where she
does something before they get there.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, and she's in like a different outfit on a
different day.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
And those week moments were.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Raping the honey for the bees, like oh my god,
the scarves, making the scarves from scratch.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
That was the point where and we're not going to
go in order here, mostly because I feel like most
of you guys haven't watched this show, so you won't
be like, hey, that happened in episode five. But also
she was like no spoilers, so each episode stood at
the whole thing is like a fever dream. I went
through so many emotions watching this. At first, I was
like I poured my wine. I'm like, oh, hey, here
we go. She is just so beautiful and comforting to
watch on TV is a big thing. So she came
(10:22):
on TV and I was like, here we go. This
is fun. And then I went through so many emotions.
I went through like sadness for her. Then I went
through liking her. Then I was and completely enraged at
one moment, which we'll get to, and then I went
back through acceptance. And then I went like career plotting
for her in my head of where she should like
go next with her life and what she could do,
and that was such a p and then at the
(10:44):
end I felt like like kind of joy for her.
So I went through the gambit of emotions over eight hours,
Like seriously.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
I want to know what made you rage? But first,
but first I want to talk about Christy Tagan. Yes, okay,
So this was the second episode Christy Tagan comes over.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
John Legend is also over.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
We escorts Chrissy Tagan, which was.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
I guess the one jump scare that we had because
he wasn't meant to be there.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Even it was like, I didn't know you were here?
Isn't here?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Everything's good, thank you little fall up here.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
It was a weird moment of going like, why are
you here? My husband's long and.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
He does in that moment, internationally renound best selling artist
John Legend does look like a like a handbag man,
like he's just been kind of wrought and dropped off
and he doesn't know what to do. He's looking at
the cameras, he doesn't know if he's been filmed or not.
He's just he's very nervous.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
He's very very nervous. So Megan and Christy are like cooking.
This is something that I feel like Christy take and
should not have done.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Really. Yeah. The thing about Christy Teagan is like, this
is what she was known for for a really long time,
is that she would do those cooking videos at home
with her and her mum, and she was like building
this whole franchise around that, and she would film all
day on Instagram these moments of her life and her
kitchen and cooking tips. And then that whole thing blew
up with her bullying Courtney stod In and step away
(12:20):
from that brand that she had built with Chris Jenna,
and step away from what she was doing, and she
doesn't post. I mean, she's got four kids now, she
had like only one or.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Two other kids and four dogs.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, and a busy lady. But I think also like
that whole relatable I'm in my kitchen thing kind of
died when a scandal happened.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Okay, that's good to know because I knew that she
had a lot of cookbooks that everyone became obsessed with.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, she's authored a lot of cookbooks.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
But then it came to measuring ingredients, and then she
had to put three hundred grams of flour into a cup. Yeah,
and she kind of like did like a bit of
a sprinkle, like a pinch of salt. Yeah, and then
she was like, I don't know how much three hundred
grams is And you can even see like Megan like,
immediately her face was like she thought she was joking.
She was like, oh, and then she immediately changed her
(13:04):
and she was like, oh it's a bit more.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah, it's like quite a bit more.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I was like, I thought this woman was like a chef.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
She is a chef. Not making me defend these women,
But cooking and baking are two very different things, and
baking is a very hard skill, a different skill. It's more.
And Meghan says this in one of her episodes.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Cooking is baking a science?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yes, And I really feel that in my boat because
it is just not good, That is exactly. And also
who amongst us is? That's why when I tried to
teach you to cook in the past, I've said.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
That is a fair point because I don't do either.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
So that's why I can speak the TV with my
wine and my uber it's going Meanwhile, you Meanwhile, you
can't even turn your own.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Meanwhile, I don't own a measurement car or flower.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
You know flower flower because you can put it over. Okay,
we can't. I've been trying to the backstory here is
I've been trying to teach Emily to cook for years.
More than that, I've been trying to teach you how
to grocery shop and then cook the basic items you buy,
and we haven't got there. And it's fine, you're perfect,
you're good at other things.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
That's really kind, thank you.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
So But when she said that, like I don't know
the measurements and stuff, I felt that in my bones
because I'm a really good cook, but I can't bake.
It's two different sides of the brain.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
It's two different sides. So maybe I learned baking and
then we can teach each other.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
I mean, I thought that's a really empty threat.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
But sure, we haven't about to spend a lot of
time together, so I feel like we have optunity.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
What are you going to be baking on all the
plane trips were about to take?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
It's like, do you guys have an oven?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Here?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
He's a plain oven.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
We go down to the hotel kitchen to be like,
make some muffins.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Make some muffins for my colleagues. Okay.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Then she does this thing where like a lot of
it is about cooking and being in the kitchen, and
a lot of the guests she had over for this
season in particular, were like cooks, right, like including like
Tan France and like she had like chefs on. She
had a few chefs on. Jay Shaddy and his wife
Rady Like he doesn't cook and they said that, but
she does, so a lot of her guests know how
(15:01):
to work a kitchen, but then she makes them do
like an Arts and Crafts is it?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
The Arts and Crafts moments where the guest base are
a bit like this is they're just like a few
times they look at the camera like is this really happening?
Because a few were J.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Shetty, who interviews.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Billionaires on his podcast.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And see it's making soap.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
And he looked so confused, and he looked scared, and
I would be scared too, because again, soap making, I'm
assuming like baking measurements and science. And this man was like,
I'm a podcast host. I can give you inspirational pep talk.
I can't make soap and why would I want to
do that?
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Yeah, Oh it's so funny. And obviously they're there for
the shows, so no one can say no. But with Chrissy,
they had to make flower jewelry, power jewelry, which I
don't think we saw the end product of.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Oh no, you saw at the end see this is
you were probably deep in the wine by now you're
pouring another class. See yeah, yeah, after Chrissie leaves because
they've got a set for twenty four hours. I did
information I didn't know. I did want it.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
To that Chrissie's looked better than Mecan's when they were
doing the flower pressing.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Potentially, Yeah, she had an eye for it were they're
doing the flower pressing. The whole Chrissy teaging episode was
so funny because she comes in, she's so excited, John
Legend looks afraid. Then John Legend leaves and hours now
live allegedly an hours pass because these women, they cook,
they bake, they chat, they decorate, then they go and
make flower jewelry and then later on their back in
the kitchen and Chrissy Teagan has all of her kid's
(16:27):
birthdays tattooed on her arm because she can't remember a
million of them. Well it's yeah, Lunar, mile Esti and Wren.
But then she looks at her arm and her plan
has backfired because she can't read some of the dates
and smudgie and which I feel like, who did that
for her? Surely like a proper tattoo artist did Chrissy
Teagan's arm. And also she can't remember which birthdays a
(16:50):
signed to whish child. So one stage, this is hours
after they've arrived, she panics and she goes John, and
John Legend pokes his head out of some little room
where he's obviously just been sitting with his hands folded
the whole time, and I was like, has that man
been here the whole time I've been doing writing songs.
He's sitting in the in the little like in the pantry,
(17:10):
looking the camera.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Like, Megan, I know you fight all your stuff.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Let me get be let me do it. It's so funny.
But also when they're out making the flower jewelry, Megan
Minkle's describing all the different flowers and then she holds
up one flower to Chrissy Teagan, and Chrissy Teagan mistakes
that flower for the name of one of Megan Michael's children.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
So let's pick which flowers we want to do for
our children's birth months.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Okay, Miles is May.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Like at your arm, Miles is May sixteenth.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
And so Myles and Archie were both Lily of the Valley. Yes,
And okay, Hansworth this one, Oh what I was like,
you're my kid name, it's my child.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
You've never heard of this? Sorrysworth.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
By the way, if I could have kept a secret
like that, i' mean impressive. Is that what that Flowers
called Hansworth Hawsworth?
Speaker 4 (18:06):
This whole episode felt like a fever dre Yeah, firstly
because I'm like, if anything, you guys should know each
other the most because you've been on deal or No
Deal together.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Oh yeah, I loved them talking about that.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Anytime she talks about her work, I'm I keep going,
keep going. Yeah, that's what people want to see, and
that's what polaroid photos.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Every time a polaroid photo came up of like behind
the scenes of their wedding or their lives, like, that's
when I leaned in. And that's also why I think
people find this show so disappointing, is that they tune
in because they think they're going to get all these
details about Megan Markle, but it's really just her making
soap literally and there's little.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
You can like. And she always like teasers where she
was like talking about h and I went on our
third date camping, and then you're like, oh, tell me more,
tell me more, and then she's like back to my
Capture wardrobe.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I'm like, well, I actually loved how she brought that up,
but I wanted more of it because that was their
third date, which if you've read Prince Harry's book, he
talks about a lot in there. Is that on their
third date? Yeah, spare out now.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Ready for spect her too. Maybe I'll talk about that
fourth day.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I hope so I would just read about their dates. Honestly,
they're so funny.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
I need someone who like is on YouTube to take
boat seasons of wit love Meghan and then just put
all the juicy bits together, like anytime she talks about Harry,
all the polaroid photos like that's collages as she posted
in season one.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
I just want all of that in one big, like
thirty minute block.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Well that's why the documentary about Harry and Meghan is
still the most watched like debut for a documentary on
Netflix of all time. Like it broke all these records
because people just want to see their wife. Yeah, which
is what I would watch the shout of two, but
instead I'm just watching her making soap instead.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
We just know how to cure a fitch.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, I still don't know. It was not following did you.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
See that crazy microwave she had, the one that like
pulls out.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Wow. Really when they were baking together, pouring my wine
at that moment, No, when she was doing like a
baking thing she has, Like well, it's obviously not her house,
but like she's obviously really into baking because instead of
like melting butter in the normal microwave, she has this
pull out draw and she just puts everything in the drawer,
closes it and then it does something good. Yeah, and
(20:13):
it's all melted and warm. Oh my god, she has
a microwave just for melting butter.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I don't know those things exist. Like that's how poor
we are.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
We are girls, Like what is this contraction? My mind blank?
I saw her poor drawer out and it had cooked.
But I was like something in my mind was like,
we don't even we can't even like a draw microwave.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
And I even tried to google it, and even my Google.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Wouldn't give me the results because it just knew I
could not have Like, girl, no, you're waiting for me, let.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Me just work your already existing oven.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Fine, we're home to my fifty only came out microwave
for me, Like, where's the butter tray. It's like these.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Little things that they insert in the show. That's the
lens that I feel like that she hasn't been able
to work out of. It's like, there are so many
little things that are for the ultra ultra rich that
I'm like fixated on because I've never seen something that
in my life, and for them it's just like a oh,
and then we have this thing. And I remember this
from season one when she was talking about her outfits
(21:08):
and she was like, she was like, and I have
like these lime A pants and a Zara's shirt, so
I like to do a bit of high and low.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
And I'm like, which one's a low?
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yes, You're like, they're actually both. I think a Zara
was meant to be the low, but the Zara was
probably a couple hundred dollars. You're like, that's a splurge
for me, Clara a low? Well exactly. I feel like
in this season she's leaning a bit more into being
a little bit more decadent, although every so often she
does say like I buy this fancy product, you could
(21:38):
buy something similar for cheaper on the Internet's no further details,
you guys, put the internet right, You can google cheap candles,
and I was like, I can make and I can
thank you for thank you for telling me to google.
But yeah. She's given only a couple of interviews around
this release, and in one interview I did hear her
(21:58):
say that she has come to the point now where
she's like, no matter what I wear, what I say,
what I do, people are going to find fault with me,
and I just can't care about that, which is so true,
so true, no matter what she yeah, yeah, yeah, I
don't know if she really believes that, because in my heart,
I would be like, but I also don't want people
to hate me. But there's literally nothing she can do.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
She can't do anything, which is why she's leaning so
hard into this, and which is also why I think
they were confident in filming the back to back because
she's like, no matter how much hate I got from
season one, like there's literally no point, Like you can't
apply everything.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah. I do think she comes across well in it.
My only kind of thought is like, she's very likable.
She is so likable. I both want to hang out
with her all the time and I'm scared of her.
I'm scared of her in a way that my life
doesn't match up to hers, because I'm so envious of
when those guests arrive and she's got the gifts, and
she's so inviting and kind and she's so warm, and
she's made them all a special drink and then she
makes them a special food and then she and she
(22:55):
really looks in people's eyes and asks them and she
seems really fascinated by what they say. Like, I just
think she would be a joy to be around, but
I also feel like she would just judge me without
meaning to. She'd be like, oh, you had a coke?
Is it a birthday party? Like do you know that's
going to kill you? Right? Or she was packing her
bag to go on that trip with her friend and
she was like, so you just go and take these
like special sheets that you have in the laundry and
(23:17):
you fold them up in your own pillowcase and you
put them through your bag, just the stuff you already
have at home. And I'm like, I don't have perfumed
laundry sheets, do you?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Someone gave me one for my birth.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
A perfumed laundry sheet, But she has a pack of them.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Crazy, and like even like the little cases she puts
like her shoes in.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Like, that's what I mean. She does like little things in.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Her head is like so normal and mundane, and for me,
I'm like, rewind, what was that su case?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
What was what? Like? Where did you get those things from?
I don't have any powdered sheets in my laundry. I
just use laundry pillow case. Yeah, well I have that,
And I do take my own pensive. I take my
own pillow case with me when we're about to do
all our trips coming up, you'll see me with my
little pillowcase away. I'm not putting my head on a
pillowcase from a hotel.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Why because other people have put.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Their heads, but they wash them. Megan markl and I know,
do you know that the one about.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
I take the hotel pillow cases and then make them
my own.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Okay, okay, that's straight up fft. There was one moment
where I related to Megan Markles so hard. I did
start to think that we could be the same person.
And it wasn't when she was cooking or making anything
fancy or anything like that, because I just don't have
that natural hostess element in me. Actually, there were two moments.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
You do what you're a hostess to a point.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I like to host myself. Yeah, I do it my
living room with my flowers and candles, with my little
snacks and my wine, and I like.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
We like making things look nice. I just what she liked.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yes, when she put the raspberry sawbet with the champagne
in it and had that, I was like, I do
do that at home sometimes.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Whereas I would have just had the champagne by itself
and then eating the raspberries.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Rely, Okay, you've got to. I will make that few
one day. It's really really nice. Okay, but I've got
those same glasses too. It's all in how you present it,
that's true. But there was two moments, one in the
first episode where one of the women I kind even
think of her name said to Megan Markle, oh, I
don't really like flowers. And it's the only time I've
seen just discussed in Meghan Markle's face. Oh it Remember
that I was a.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Lady who owns milk bar and she's like a well
renowned like pastry dessert yea, And yeah she was like,
this is why Megan, you have two massive so who
doesn't like flowers but like you can't bring a massive chef,
put them in the kitchen and be like, now we're
going to go do flower arrangement and I'm going to
teach it.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
And flower arranging is hard.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
It's like chefs, because I'm so sorry to chefs out there.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Okay, but I do have a bone to pick with you.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Okay, Jesus with this one. I love chefs.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
The chefs I know are so particular in being perfect
that when you put them into an environment where they
can't be perfect and they have to learn in front
of other people, they freak out.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
These are the chefs I know, the chefs I've experienced.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
No, I would say that's the true thing, because it
is you have to be perfect in doing it. You
can't just be like, oh, this is fine because you're
sending fruit. Especially these like three top tier Michelin Star
kind of chefs that she's working.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
And the chef she brought on and were very competitive, yeah,
and they wanted to win the flower arrangement contest.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
And then this woman's like, I don't really like flowers.
You just see it's the one time Megan Markle's mask
kind of fell and she was like what And so
I really related to.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Her arrangement, tells she didn't like flowers. She's like a
bunch of weeds.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
She was like, oh, this is fine, And Megan had
all these flowers playing, She's like picking out the grass
from the guard. And then at one stage when she
was cooking, she's like, oh, I did just go outside
and redo my flower range like Megan miss yeah, of
course's really.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
She definitely practiced that like days before her.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
So that was the one time I related to her.
The other time is when she was saying that when
she's really nervous, especially when she was a working actress
and auditioning, she always used to get like a big
red stressed neck, like a whole neckwk. She got red
and pot chi, and so she had to go to
every event in eternal neck. And if you look at
all my interviews, every big interview I do, I'm wearing
(26:48):
a really high neck because I also get a spotchy neck.
My friends call it a hiky neck, like my whole
neck just breaks out in like I hope.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
She was.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Like, hey, girl, I get you.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
I remember that because it was so funny, Like I
feel like it's one of those moments where you want
to be friends with someone so so badly that you
just agree with everything they say, and I feel like
that's chrissy to Megan. Meg's like I get a huge
rash on my neck, and because it's like, yes, same,
I was like, I.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Don't know, girl, neck looks pretty good right now. I'm
not saying for watches.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
It's like I'm really tired. Yes, same, I'm also really tired.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
So that's when I loved her now to when I
got mad at her. It was tanned from Quierai and
they were doing the cooking and everything was cute. I
like did too. And my favorite point when he kind
of looked at her when she was doing the last
bits of the cooking and he was like, what are
those things that you're sprinkling on there? And she's like, oh,
dried flowers and love them. And she's like just putting
handfuls of dried flowers on anything. Anything in that kitchen
(27:45):
that's around just gets dried flowers floated. And but no,
it was when they were doing their arts and crafts,
so she was like, let's do aprons for your two kids.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
And I know where you're going with this.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Like she went from doing this beautiful silk screening on
scarves that looked so beautiful and artistic, and I was like,
oh my god, I could never like And I was
thinking to myself, she's really clever. She really knows what
she's doing. Sometimes when you see her do her caligraphy
and stuff like, this woman has proper skills that I
could never imagine having. And then she went from that,
she went from such a high height to such a
low low because then she got out these aprons and
(28:21):
she took a big chunk of celery, cut the top
off it, took the celery head, dunked it in some paint,
and then put it on the apron and then looked
at ten France from Queer Eye, who's like no one
for like being able to create incredible things, and goes and.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
He's like a fashion ic. He knows everything about everything
of fashion.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
And then she like dunks the painted celery, puts it
off and it leaves a big clump of paint, and
she looks at him and goes, see what we can create?
And I was like what. And then she they were
getting other vegetables and he's like, I'm gonna try it
with the lime and gets the lime and the paint
puts it and I was like, so this is what
I did in kindergarten. And even when I was in kindergarten,
I looked down and was like, this is beneath me,
(29:02):
like taking fruit and vegetables and putting it off, as
fruit and.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Vegetables were quite expense. When she started cutting that celery,
I was like, oh, I wonder what.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
They got to cook in here.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
And then I she had dunking the vegetables and paint
and I was like, oh no.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
You're like I hope you washed that off and ate
it afterwards. And also, the aprons look horrible. I was
gonna say they look fine, but you're right. They did
look horrible. You know myself. It was the worst thing
is that he's got these two young kids, and he
says that he has to go away for work a
lot of the time, and his kids get really upset,
and when they come back, they go to his husband.
More so, his kids get really upset when he's away
(29:35):
for work. And then Megan kind of insinuates that, like, oh,
well you're away now filming this like this is work,
but you get to take these aprons back. And I
was like, those aprons are so ugly. They are not
worth his kids loving him.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
TAM's gonna like be burning them on the way across.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
The Biro without a stand of Monker and like threw
him out the window and they went. They just flew
over a cliff because I was like, this man is
literally like is that a salary? He's literally like, oh,
when I leave my kids, they love me less. And
she was like, well, these aprons will make up for it. No.
(30:11):
I felt like a little bit protective of Megan Markle
as I was watching this show, is that she comes
across lovely and then she also comes across insane. And
I think the insane part comes from the editing in
a way, because do you remember the part where they
were making those little crack of cheese things and they
brawled them out of the oven and then she was like,
do you guys want some? And the camera panned around
(30:31):
and there was about fifteen people in the room, so
many people with cameras, so many producers. And they obviously
do show her talking back and forth to the camera
people throughout the show, like they break that fourth wall,
But at the same time, that was the first time
I saw just how many people in the room, and
they were all laughing and chatting. And that's when I
realized that, because sometimes when she looks crazy, it looks
like she's in a room by herself when she doesn't
(30:53):
have her guest. She's doing all that cooking and prepping
and stuff, and she's just talking, and she looks like
she's room by herself, and she keeps laughing and looking
down and laughing in but nothing funny has happened. Ye,
nothing remotely interesting has happened. So she looks crazy that
she's in a kitchen. It looks like she's laughing at herself,
saying I like to put lemon on things. Ha ha,
that's a crazy person. But then I realized that there's
(31:15):
so much that's been cut out that she's Everyone in
the room is laughing at something in conversation, and she's
joining in that conversation, but that's not being showing no. Yeah,
and she does the editing. She has said that she
goes through the notes, she does the editing, she does
the cuts. So but I just feel like someone needs
to come in and be like, hey, you look crazy,
and you don't have to because you're laughing with fifteen
other people in the room. And you know what it's
like when you're on those shoot days, and you know,
(31:36):
when we go and do the projects and stuff, like
you with these people all day, you do get a
little hysterical. You have in jokes, things are funny, but
we're just not seeing that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
And it's so.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Hard even when you're the one editing yeah, because you
know the context. Yeah, and that gets muddled, like you
can't see in the fresh eyes, which is why like
we never heard it. Yeah, allowed, But I do this,
I do agree with that, and I wish that in
some of those like takes where she is by herself
and prepping for the guests, I wish I pulled someone
from the crew to be with her, yeah, cause I
(32:07):
think that would have been so fun to watch her
interact with the normal person.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I do think sometimes I say this with love in
my heart, because all of these people are so talented
that it's okay that they're not TV personalities. But often
she would have a really well known chef or someone
on with her, and because they're not naturals in front
of the camera, she's having to do all the heavy
lifting with like chatting and trying to be funny, and
it's just not working. I feel like she's like Mindy
(32:31):
Kayling with her every episode or somewhat something like that.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Oh my god, I imagine if she had Mindy k
that would be incredible.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
I would watch She's just something like that to kind
of heighten it, because I mean, Megan Michael's very sweet,
but she's she's not funny. She's not funny intentionally, so
it kind of I feel like that's where it kind
of peops.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
She's trying to figure out, Like I think, also what
type of show she wants it to be. Yeah, and
like you said, if it's a guest who's like a
chef or someone who isn't like media facing, she has
to do the heavy lifting and be all the personality.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah, But when she.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Has Mindy Kayling or like Christy tig and like, she
can take a step back.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
And kind of bounce off the at and especially people
that she's actually friends with that she knows, he knows
how they will act in front of a camera exactly. Again,
as you were saying before, there's a many little tipbits
of her life. When she talks about the fact that
on their third date they went camping in Botswana, can
you imagine that you're in love with a guy you
think you're going to marry, and then you go and
spend five days together in a tent.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
No.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
I like camping, but not with someone I'm dating. No,
and not also in Botswana, it's like beautiful, but it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
He's crazy, And like third dates, I'd been like I'm
getting murdered by a prince.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
What a way to go. But also every time they
gave little tibbits of their wedding, like I haven't seen
those wedding place cards before, like the table settings or
even like saying.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
How like the menu had all like little bits of
like where all the food came from.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
And I was just imagined the Queen just reading.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Reading. The Queen since down and goes to Prince Philip,
like there's a map on our table showing where all
the food is from, and they just like get us
out of here. But then like they invented like a
special type of like michelin sta fried chicken to serve
with the after party, and it looks so good, and
I was like, this is the information I want, Like
what food did you serve at the after part of
your wedding? I don't even want to know why you
the Royals, although I want to know that as well,
but I also just want all this behind.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
I think the Queen eat fried chicken. Yes, I did the.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Queen eat the fried chicken bites. What does she call them?
The late night bite, the late night byes?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Fried chicken.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
No, I don't. I think the Queen would have tapped
out before the after party.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Yeah, for sure, for sure. So that is with Love
Meghan season two.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
What a rollic.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
I'm going to say, we're not getting a third season. Well,
I think she'll do something else with Netflix, but it
won't be their But again, I know they don't want
to film it, but I just want a documentary of
her life. I actually loved her like packing her suitcase,
jumping in her car, driving herself to La, having girls.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
I like that, or when she's out on the body
see though, Yeah, the girl's week in away when she
was like packing the baseball cap and she was like,
I made this on my husband's forty. There's like a
Joe yeah, and it was like the initials on the
cap was pH for Prince Harry.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
I loved that.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
That was so good. She was like, I have so
many of these and I wear them all the time.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
My god, I love it. Like in that way, I
was like, oh, you're taking the piss.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Did you think that was like a message to the
royal family.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Yeah, as I like, I'm taking the piss because we
call him Prince Hary at home, I think.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yeah, yeah, I love that. And even when she's out
on the boat with the sea urchins and all that
sort of stuff, like when she tried to like cook seafood, oh,
I genuinely thought she was gonna faint at the lobsters.
She's like, I'm okay with a fish. And he was
just like, you crack this lobster and then you pull
its head off, and she was like he was like
and look the lobsters say, Meghan, mean please, I need
(35:37):
to be eaten. That's what I mean when you've got
a really good co host with you. Because that she
was just like going for god, oh my god. He
did not care that and he was mating the lobster's
death to her, and she was she was so panicking.
She's like, oh, I'm just a bit hot. I'm gonna
take my cardigan off and like leaves the shot like no, Meghan,
come back. You're gonna eat the lobster. You need to
watch it die. That's the rules.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
And he's like, and we eat the urchins like reproductive system.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
And Meghan's like, I think we're going to cut that
out and he's like, oh, sorry, not reproductive. Have you
had a sea urchin? They're really good.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
It is the best thing I've ever put in my mouth.
Me too, It's so good, so good. So maybe would
get to see urchin tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Maybe like in the city of Yeah, we both.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Look close to the fish markets.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Okay, let's do that because we're just making our weeknd's
really expensive as well.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
I can't take twenty five.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I'm like, girl, no Netflix got a budget for this.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
I was just thinking cause o last episode where she's
cooking for the crew, just.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Imagining me being there, like I would have been ignoring
the heaving paler on my plane. Yeah, like running to them,
like taking a full lobster, smashing it into my play.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Like. This is why I think she just hasn't found
her audience, because the people watching it are the people
who want the Megan market intel, and I actually think
people who just like cooking and lifestyle shows. I mean,
obviously there's better ones out there, but it does feel
like that's the market she's going into, Like when she's
on the boat, when she's with the person who's explaining
how they got the sea urchins and what they do,
and I'm like, this is super interesting. But I also
(36:57):
feel like we just don't consume content in a Netflix
sense like that, Like it felt like you should be
TikTok videos, like if she put these up as little
TikTok videos are like here's how I do the fruit art,
here's how I do have the flower arranging. Here's how
you cut open a sea urchin, Like, people watch the
shit out of that.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
She needs to get back together with Gwyned Paltrow. Yeah,
and she needs to be like, hey, I need to
get some lead magnets off you. I need to steal
some of your audience. That's the audience she needs, yes,
like the people who genuinely follow Goop, not Gwyned Paltrow.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
She needs that the Goop followers. That's so true.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Well, that's our business advice to Meghan market. We'll plan
for your megs, right, We'll send it through more packing,
less art with vegetables. So that is our review. I
brilliant a review with love Megan, I think, much nicer
than our first review from season one.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Yeah we've come around, Yeah we've come around.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
But also like I think the first one was maybe
just a shock to our system because we just weren't
expecting some of the things that happened. But this one
was quite a nice watch, pleasant watch, pleasant watch. We
watched it, so you don't have to, So there we go.
But it is on Netflix now if you do want
to watch it.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
If you do, don't have to, Dare.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Thank you so much for listening to this episode of
the Spill. Do not forget to follow this spill on TikTok.
This episode was produced by Minichie Swiren with sound production
by Scott's Tronik.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
And we'll back here on your.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Podcast feed for a week and watch at six am
tomorrow and another episode of the Spill.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Bye Bye,
So much.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You're listening to Amma Mia podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders
that this podcast is recorded on From Mamma Mia. Welcome
to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I'm Laura Brodnick and I'm Burnham.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
And today we have a show that we have been
waiting months to bring you because it is our brutally
honest review of With Love Megan on Netflix Part two,
Part two. I said, I almost did like the Little Fred.
I thought I was in season six, Sex and City.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
We are not.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I wish I was there. I love the idea of
spending time together and.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Finding new ways to show with people you care.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Look at that, Oh my gosh, I could do this
every day.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Let's get creative and you learn something new.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
NICs be done.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I don't know what's happening, and I'm so glad you
came to show me how to do this is working.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Today's like getting out of your comfort zone.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I have no idea where to start. Everybody should have
one of those homes three you think so, this is
one of the most joyful days, so comforting, very comforting.
After what I want to make are things I want
to share this looks fantastic.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
There are easy ways to show up lovingly.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Oh, she has given me a goose bump. That is
so lovely.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
That's delicious.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
We also did a brutally honest review of season one,
so if you haven't listened to that, we will link
it in our show notes because I think that was
one of my favorite brittley honest reviews because I was
a bit delirious because I remember watching all eight episodes
back to back. I felt like the episodes and season
one were a bit longer, like they were more around
the forty minute mark. And I just came into the
(02:03):
office after watching the last episode going I'm ready.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I'm ready to write you.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Were shell shocked and determined.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Shell shocked and determined.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
And we do a really honest review, which are episodes
that we talk about the biggest TV shows and movies
that have been released. And normally this is the part
of the show where I'd say, if you haven't watched
it all, go and watch it because we're going to
go deep on spoilers. However, there are no spoilers with this.
If you haven't watched it, that's fine.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Imagine if they had like a full plot twist.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Well, that's what I thought when you said this morning.
I hadn't watched last fifteen minutes, the last episode. I
was like, imagine if I was like, oh my god,
things go off the rails. They didn't. They didn't.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
It's a very much a home lifestyle, warm, friendly sh
It's like a show you put on in the background
while you do something else.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I mean, to an extent, it wouldn't be my choice
of a background show. But Yes, with Love Megan season
one came out a few months ago, and as soon
as it finished, Meghan mark or herself let us know.
I know she's Megan Sussex now, but for all times sakes,
I'll call her Megan Marc Miny Kayling.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
We'll be like, hey, no one call her Megan Markle.
Don't make my mistake.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Mindy Kayling's not watching the season because she's like, I
can't revisit the tray of sitting in that hothouse and
making a tea party and they being publicly caught out
on the internet for months on it.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
I was actually thinking about that episode in particular while
watching the season two. Sorry to segue, but like this
season is I feel like way more educational in the
way that she's teaching like her friends to do things.
And it felt like that episode of Mindy Kaling was
more like here's something you can do with your kids.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yeah, And I was.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Like, then why is Mindy there?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Because Mindy was like, I pay people to do this.
I don't do it myself because I'm super busy and
I run a huge production company.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Every other episode like, it's like these adults learning things
that they could do as adults, And for Mindy it
was just like, here's something you can do for your kids.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
She was like, no thanks, which is interesting because that's
what Megan Michael came out and said after the season
one aired, is that they had filmed it all in
one go. Yes, so season two was locked and loaded,
so there's no learnings, no feedback, there was no time
to go back and reshuffle things and redo things. What
they filmed is what they had. So you and I
have worked. I watched you in one night. I think
(04:12):
you watched it across two nights.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I started. I did four episodes last night and four
episodes this morning.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
A healthy way to do it. I was I can't
even describe this date. I was in by the time.
I did eight hours in one night after working a
full day in this office of Megan Michael's new show.
But take me through your thought journey of watching it.
What was your experience?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Like, So I had half a bottle of wine.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I did do you can't watch that so much and
if you're not drinking, but like, we couldn't watch it.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
So we also have a massive work project coming up.
So I was in that mindset of like working on
that project while also trying to watch and enjoy. Yeah
with love Megan, I have to pause there. Yeah, well
there is a comma, so you have to pause. And
so I had half a bottle of wine. In the
first two and a half episodes, I was like, you
know what, I think this might be my.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Favorite show of the year.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Really, I loved it so much in the first episode, correct, okay,
well it is. I came kind of I was.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Really into it.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I had so much fun, and then like I started
to sober up and I was like, oh, this is
just this is the exact.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Same thing that we watch.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Is so wrong.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
This is the exact same thing we watched last season.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Yeah, But because I knew that they filmed it back
to back and it was like this big multimillion dollar
deal that they had with Netflix.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
That's the reason she had to do this show in
the first place. I went in being a bit.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
More kinder towards what I was going to experience, So
because I knew it wasn't going to be different from
season one.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
It was literally going to be the same thing.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
So I went in and I feel like my outtake
from this season is much more She's just doing what
she wants to do.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I'm going to leave her alone.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Well that's why thing a lot of people hate watched it. Well, actually,
as we know, a lot of people didn't watch it
all because it was number three hundred on Netflix. In
saying that though it had over five million views, it's
just that Netflix numbers are so huge. On network television
that would be like the biggest show of the year.
So it's not that people didn't watch it, it's just
that it didn't crack the Netflix like top thirty.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
I want to know, like all the shows that cracked
the Top thirty didn't get the multimillion dollar deal going yeah, hey,
where's our money.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Well that's the thing too, is like there's been this
big song and dance about Meghan and Harry having this
one hundred million dollar deal with Netflix and the fact
that it expires in September of this year, so it's
expired now and they won't be renewing it. And I
think that's been painted as a bit of our like
Meghan and Harry are failures. Netflix doesn't want anything to
do with them. But it's more so that Netflix is
cutting all of those big long term content deals and
(06:37):
doing project by project, which a lot of media companies
are doing at the moment, because the Obama's also had
their deal ended, and that's not making headlines, but they're
just like, we're not in the business of now giving
people a huge lump sum of cash and just seeing
what they make and green lighting projects. It's like, you
bring us a project we want, We're going to buy it.
So Meghan and Harry are still working with.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Netflix, right, Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I mean, I don't know why I've become their defender,
but I'm a defender of truth.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
That's before we get into it.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I do want to point out the biggest issue when
it comes to filming back to back. The worst thing
that can happen when you're filming a show back to
back is if your dog dies. Oh no, I know,
I know Guy the Beagle, but it's good.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Because other one.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
And then we saw a little bit of mom and
Mia yeah yeah, ah, oh my god, because I grew
up with beagles. And when I saw a guy there,
knowing that guy's not with us anymore and he's still
such a main.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Character, that's good. They can't edit him out. That's his
final like role, his final big role.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
And then like Chrissy Teagan sees him and she's like,
who's this and Meghan's like, it's guy. And Chrisy's like,
I love how he's just chilling. And Megan's like, yeah,
he's an old man. And I was like, Christy, you
have no idea what's about.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
You don't know what's about?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Did you see that? The day that With Love Meghan
season two came out, Meghan Minkle shared on her Instagram stories,
so she did this video of her walking into her
beautiful kitchen, like her real life kitchen film there and
little Lilla Bette is there and she runs past in
her pajamas and she said that Prince Harry had given
her this gift. And it's a huge, huge, blown up
black and white photo of her and Guy. So he
(08:10):
must have known Prince Harry h as she calls him,
must have known that it would be a really traumatic
day because the show was coming out and guys in it,
and he passed away. So he gifted her this big
black and white portrait of Guy to be like he's
still here.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
It was just really really sad. It was like, that
was my plot twist and the show. Okay, the first
scene of Guy, I was like, it's Guy.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
No, I forgot I forgot yes, So that's because they
fill him back to back, so guys in the whole
thing and then he passed away. I kind of thought
of that, but that's so true. So we Love Meghan.
Part two follows a similar kind of flow to the
first series, which is some celebrity guests, some friends of
Meghan Markle and some people she's never met, come in
(08:53):
and out of this house that they've rented, which people
are really upset about. But of course they've rented a house.
What are they going to do put up a TV
set for weeks in her own home where her children are.
She actually never said I loved how people thought they
were being detectives. They're like I've discovered it's on her
real house, and it was like, I do think that
wasn't being hidden.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I mean I did write an article about it.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Okay, you discovered it, I discovered or very I think
it was fun to point out, but I just don't
think it was the big kind of like we've got
you moments.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
It was more funny in the way that the whole
show is about being a hostess and creating a home
and building your home, and she's like opening these drawers
and going in the pantry as if she lives there
when she definitely does.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
She definitely doesn't. That's so true. But yeah, but I
think I think in the second season we have moved on.
We have moved on.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
At least it's the same house that's the first season.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah, no, exactly. So it's the same house. So guests
come in and out, and she either cooks with them,
prepares things with them, or teaches them a little home
craft tricks.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
And or she'll have like a jump card where she
does something before they get there.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, and she's in like a different outfit on a
different day.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
And those week moments were.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Raping the honey for the bees, like oh my god,
the scarves, making the scarves from scratch.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
That was the point where and we're not going to
go in order here, mostly because I feel like most
of you guys haven't watched this show, so you won't
be like, hey, that happened in episode five. But also
she was like no spoilers, so each episode stood at
the whole thing is like a fever dream. I went
through so many emotions watching this. At first, I was
like I poured my wine. I'm like, oh, hey, here
we go. She is just so beautiful and comforting to
watch on TV is a big thing. So she came
(10:22):
on TV and I was like, here we go. This
is fun. And then I went through so many emotions.
I went through like sadness for her. Then I went
through liking her. Then I was and completely enraged at
one moment, which we'll get to, and then I went
back through acceptance. And then I went like career plotting
for her in my head of where she should like
go next with her life and what she could do,
and that was such a p and then at the
(10:44):
end I felt like like kind of joy for her.
So I went through the gambit of emotions over eight hours,
Like seriously.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
I want to know what made you rage? But first,
but first I want to talk about Christy Tagan. Yes, okay,
So this was the second episode Christy Tagan comes over.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
John Legend is also over.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
We escorts Chrissy Tagan, which was.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
I guess the one jump scare that we had because
he wasn't meant to be there.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Even it was like, I didn't know you were here?
Isn't here?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Everything's good, thank you little fall up here.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
It was a weird moment of going like, why are
you here? My husband's long and.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
He does in that moment, internationally renound best selling artist
John Legend does look like a like a handbag man,
like he's just been kind of wrought and dropped off
and he doesn't know what to do. He's looking at
the cameras, he doesn't know if he's been filmed or not.
He's just he's very nervous.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
He's very very nervous. So Megan and Christy are like cooking.
This is something that I feel like Christy take and
should not have done.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Really. Yeah. The thing about Christy Teagan is like, this
is what she was known for for a really long time,
is that she would do those cooking videos at home
with her and her mum, and she was like building
this whole franchise around that, and she would film all
day on Instagram these moments of her life and her
kitchen and cooking tips. And then that whole thing blew
up with her bullying Courtney stod In and step away
(12:20):
from that brand that she had built with Chris Jenna,
and step away from what she was doing, and she
doesn't post. I mean, she's got four kids now, she
had like only one or.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Two other kids and four dogs.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, and a busy lady. But I think also like
that whole relatable I'm in my kitchen thing kind of
died when a scandal happened.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Okay, that's good to know because I knew that she
had a lot of cookbooks that everyone became obsessed with.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, she's authored a lot of cookbooks.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
But then it came to measuring ingredients, and then she
had to put three hundred grams of flour into a cup. Yeah,
and she kind of like did like a bit of
a sprinkle, like a pinch of salt. Yeah, and then
she was like, I don't know how much three hundred
grams is And you can even see like Megan like,
immediately her face was like she thought she was joking.
She was like, oh, and then she immediately changed her
(13:04):
and she was like, oh it's a bit more.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah, it's like quite a bit more.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I was like, I thought this woman was like a chef.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
She is a chef. Not making me defend these women,
But cooking and baking are two very different things, and
baking is a very hard skill, a different skill. It's more.
And Meghan says this in one of her episodes.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Cooking is baking a science?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yes, And I really feel that in my boat because
it is just not good, That is exactly. And also
who amongst us is? That's why when I tried to
teach you to cook in the past, I've said.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
That is a fair point because I don't do either.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
So that's why I can speak the TV with my
wine and my uber it's going Meanwhile, you Meanwhile, you
can't even turn your own.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Meanwhile, I don't own a measurement car or flower.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
You know flower flower because you can put it over. Okay,
we can't. I've been trying to the backstory here is
I've been trying to teach Emily to cook for years.
More than that, I've been trying to teach you how
to grocery shop and then cook the basic items you buy,
and we haven't got there. And it's fine, you're perfect,
you're good at other things.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
That's really kind, thank you.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
So But when she said that, like I don't know
the measurements and stuff, I felt that in my bones
because I'm a really good cook, but I can't bake.
It's two different sides of the brain.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
It's two different sides. So maybe I learned baking and
then we can teach each other.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
I mean, I thought that's a really empty threat.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
But sure, we haven't about to spend a lot of
time together, so I feel like we have optunity.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
What are you going to be baking on all the
plane trips were about to take?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
It's like, do you guys have an oven?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Here?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
He's a plain oven.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
We go down to the hotel kitchen to be like,
make some muffins.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Make some muffins for my colleagues. Okay.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Then she does this thing where like a lot of
it is about cooking and being in the kitchen, and
a lot of the guests she had over for this
season in particular, were like cooks, right, like including like
Tan France and like she had like chefs on. She
had a few chefs on. Jay Shaddy and his wife
Rady Like he doesn't cook and they said that, but
she does, so a lot of her guests know how
(15:01):
to work a kitchen, but then she makes them do
like an Arts and Crafts is it?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
The Arts and Crafts moments where the guest base are
a bit like this is they're just like a few
times they look at the camera like is this really happening?
Because a few were J.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Shetty, who interviews.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Billionaires on his podcast.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And see it's making soap.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
And he looked so confused, and he looked scared, and
I would be scared too, because again, soap making, I'm
assuming like baking measurements and science. And this man was like,
I'm a podcast host. I can give you inspirational pep talk.
I can't make soap and why would I want to
do that?
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Yeah, Oh it's so funny. And obviously they're there for
the shows, so no one can say no. But with Chrissy,
they had to make flower jewelry, power jewelry, which I
don't think we saw the end product of.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Oh no, you saw at the end see this is
you were probably deep in the wine by now you're
pouring another class. See yeah, yeah, after Chrissie leaves because
they've got a set for twenty four hours. I did
information I didn't know. I did want it.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
To that Chrissie's looked better than Mecan's when they were
doing the flower pressing.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Potentially, Yeah, she had an eye for it were they're
doing the flower pressing. The whole Chrissy teaging episode was
so funny because she comes in, she's so excited, John
Legend looks afraid. Then John Legend leaves and hours now
live allegedly an hours pass because these women, they cook,
they bake, they chat, they decorate, then they go and
make flower jewelry and then later on their back in
the kitchen and Chrissy Teagan has all of her kid's
(16:27):
birthdays tattooed on her arm because she can't remember a
million of them. Well it's yeah, Lunar, mile Esti and Wren.
But then she looks at her arm and her plan
has backfired because she can't read some of the dates
and smudgie and which I feel like, who did that
for her? Surely like a proper tattoo artist did Chrissy
Teagan's arm. And also she can't remember which birthdays a
(16:50):
signed to whish child. So one stage, this is hours
after they've arrived, she panics and she goes John, and
John Legend pokes his head out of some little room
where he's obviously just been sitting with his hands folded
the whole time, and I was like, has that man
been here the whole time I've been doing writing songs.
He's sitting in the in the little like in the pantry,
(17:10):
looking the camera.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Like, Megan, I know you fight all your stuff.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Let me get be let me do it. It's so funny.
But also when they're out making the flower jewelry, Megan
Minkle's describing all the different flowers and then she holds
up one flower to Chrissy Teagan, and Chrissy Teagan mistakes
that flower for the name of one of Megan Michael's children.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
So let's pick which flowers we want to do for
our children's birth months.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Okay, Miles is May.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Like at your arm, Miles is May sixteenth.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
And so Myles and Archie were both Lily of the Valley. Yes,
And okay, Hansworth this one, Oh what I was like,
you're my kid name, it's my child.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
You've never heard of this? Sorrysworth.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
By the way, if I could have kept a secret
like that, i' mean impressive. Is that what that Flowers
called Hansworth Hawsworth?
Speaker 4 (18:06):
This whole episode felt like a fever dre Yeah, firstly
because I'm like, if anything, you guys should know each
other the most because you've been on deal or No
Deal together.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Oh yeah, I loved them talking about that.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Anytime she talks about her work, I'm I keep going,
keep going. Yeah, that's what people want to see, and
that's what polaroid photos.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Every time a polaroid photo came up of like behind
the scenes of their wedding or their lives, like, that's
when I leaned in. And that's also why I think
people find this show so disappointing, is that they tune
in because they think they're going to get all these
details about Megan Markle, but it's really just her making
soap literally and there's little.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
You can like. And she always like teasers where she
was like talking about h and I went on our
third date camping, and then you're like, oh, tell me more,
tell me more, and then she's like back to my
Capture wardrobe.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I'm like, well, I actually loved how she brought that up,
but I wanted more of it because that was their
third date, which if you've read Prince Harry's book, he
talks about a lot in there. Is that on their
third date? Yeah, spare out now.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Ready for spect her too. Maybe I'll talk about that
fourth day.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I hope so I would just read about their dates. Honestly,
they're so funny.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
I need someone who like is on YouTube to take
boat seasons of wit love Meghan and then just put
all the juicy bits together, like anytime she talks about Harry,
all the polaroid photos like that's collages as she posted
in season one.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
I just want all of that in one big, like
thirty minute block.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Well that's why the documentary about Harry and Meghan is
still the most watched like debut for a documentary on
Netflix of all time. Like it broke all these records
because people just want to see their wife. Yeah, which
is what I would watch the shout of two, but
instead I'm just watching her making soap instead.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
We just know how to cure a fitch.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, I still don't know. It was not following did you.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
See that crazy microwave she had, the one that like
pulls out.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Wow. Really when they were baking together, pouring my wine
at that moment, No, when she was doing like a
baking thing she has, Like well, it's obviously not her house,
but like she's obviously really into baking because instead of
like melting butter in the normal microwave, she has this
pull out draw and she just puts everything in the drawer,
closes it and then it does something good. Yeah, and
(20:13):
it's all melted and warm. Oh my god, she has
a microwave just for melting butter.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I don't know those things exist. Like that's how poor
we are.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
We are girls, Like what is this contraction? My mind blank?
I saw her poor drawer out and it had cooked.
But I was like something in my mind was like,
we don't even we can't even like a draw microwave.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
And I even tried to google it, and even my Google.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Wouldn't give me the results because it just knew I
could not have Like, girl, no, you're waiting for me, let.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Me just work your already existing oven.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Fine, we're home to my fifty only came out microwave
for me, Like, where's the butter tray. It's like these.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Little things that they insert in the show. That's the
lens that I feel like that she hasn't been able
to work out of. It's like, there are so many
little things that are for the ultra ultra rich that
I'm like fixated on because I've never seen something that
in my life, and for them it's just like a oh,
and then we have this thing. And I remember this
from season one when she was talking about her outfits
(21:08):
and she was like, she was like, and I have
like these lime A pants and a Zara's shirt, so
I like to do a bit of high and low.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
And I'm like, which one's a low?
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yes, You're like, they're actually both. I think a Zara
was meant to be the low, but the Zara was
probably a couple hundred dollars. You're like, that's a splurge
for me, Clara a low? Well exactly. I feel like
in this season she's leaning a bit more into being
a little bit more decadent, although every so often she
does say like I buy this fancy product, you could
(21:38):
buy something similar for cheaper on the Internet's no further details,
you guys, put the internet right, You can google cheap candles,
and I was like, I can make and I can
thank you for thank you for telling me to google.
But yeah. She's given only a couple of interviews around
this release, and in one interview I did hear her
(21:58):
say that she has come to the point now where
she's like, no matter what I wear, what I say,
what I do, people are going to find fault with me,
and I just can't care about that, which is so true,
so true, no matter what she yeah, yeah, yeah, I
don't know if she really believes that, because in my heart,
I would be like, but I also don't want people
to hate me. But there's literally nothing she can do.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
She can't do anything, which is why she's leaning so
hard into this, and which is also why I think
they were confident in filming the back to back because
she's like, no matter how much hate I got from
season one, like there's literally no point, Like you can't
apply everything.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah. I do think she comes across well in it.
My only kind of thought is like, she's very likable.
She is so likable. I both want to hang out
with her all the time and I'm scared of her.
I'm scared of her in a way that my life
doesn't match up to hers, because I'm so envious of
when those guests arrive and she's got the gifts, and
she's so inviting and kind and she's so warm, and
she's made them all a special drink and then she
makes them a special food and then she and she
(22:55):
really looks in people's eyes and asks them and she
seems really fascinated by what they say. Like, I just
think she would be a joy to be around, but
I also feel like she would just judge me without
meaning to. She'd be like, oh, you had a coke?
Is it a birthday party? Like do you know that's
going to kill you? Right? Or she was packing her
bag to go on that trip with her friend and
she was like, so you just go and take these
like special sheets that you have in the laundry and
(23:17):
you fold them up in your own pillowcase and you
put them through your bag, just the stuff you already
have at home. And I'm like, I don't have perfumed
laundry sheets, do you?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Someone gave me one for my birth.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
A perfumed laundry sheet, But she has a pack of them.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Crazy, and like even like the little cases she puts
like her shoes in.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Like, that's what I mean. She does like little things in.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Her head is like so normal and mundane, and for me,
I'm like, rewind, what was that su case?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
What was what? Like? Where did you get those things from?
I don't have any powdered sheets in my laundry. I
just use laundry pillow case. Yeah, well I have that,
And I do take my own pensive. I take my
own pillow case with me when we're about to do
all our trips coming up, you'll see me with my
little pillowcase away. I'm not putting my head on a
pillowcase from a hotel.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Why because other people have put.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Their heads, but they wash them. Megan markl and I know,
do you know that the one about.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
I take the hotel pillow cases and then make them
my own.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Okay, okay, that's straight up fft. There was one moment
where I related to Megan Markles so hard. I did
start to think that we could be the same person.
And it wasn't when she was cooking or making anything
fancy or anything like that, because I just don't have
that natural hostess element in me. Actually, there were two moments.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
You do what you're a hostess to a point.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I like to host myself. Yeah, I do it my
living room with my flowers and candles, with my little
snacks and my wine, and I like.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
We like making things look nice. I just what she liked.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yes, when she put the raspberry sawbet with the champagne
in it and had that, I was like, I do
do that at home sometimes.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Whereas I would have just had the champagne by itself
and then eating the raspberries.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Rely, Okay, you've got to. I will make that few
one day. It's really really nice. Okay, but I've got
those same glasses too. It's all in how you present it,
that's true. But there was two moments, one in the
first episode where one of the women I kind even
think of her name said to Megan Markle, oh, I
don't really like flowers. And it's the only time I've
seen just discussed in Meghan Markle's face. Oh it Remember
that I was a.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Lady who owns milk bar and she's like a well
renowned like pastry dessert yea, And yeah she was like,
this is why Megan, you have two massive so who
doesn't like flowers but like you can't bring a massive chef,
put them in the kitchen and be like, now we're
going to go do flower arrangement and I'm going to
teach it.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
And flower arranging is hard.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
It's like chefs, because I'm so sorry to chefs out there.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Okay, but I do have a bone to pick with you.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Okay, Jesus with this one. I love chefs.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
The chefs I know are so particular in being perfect
that when you put them into an environment where they
can't be perfect and they have to learn in front
of other people, they freak out.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
These are the chefs I know, the chefs I've experienced.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
No, I would say that's the true thing, because it
is you have to be perfect in doing it. You
can't just be like, oh, this is fine because you're
sending fruit. Especially these like three top tier Michelin Star
kind of chefs that she's working.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
And the chef she brought on and were very competitive, yeah,
and they wanted to win the flower arrangement contest.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
And then this woman's like, I don't really like flowers.
You just see it's the one time Megan Markle's mask
kind of fell and she was like what And so
I really related to.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Her arrangement, tells she didn't like flowers. She's like a
bunch of weeds.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
She was like, oh, this is fine, And Megan had
all these flowers playing, She's like picking out the grass
from the guard. And then at one stage when she
was cooking, she's like, oh, I did just go outside
and redo my flower range like Megan miss yeah, of
course's really.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
She definitely practiced that like days before her.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
So that was the one time I related to her.
The other time is when she was saying that when
she's really nervous, especially when she was a working actress
and auditioning, she always used to get like a big
red stressed neck, like a whole neckwk. She got red
and pot chi, and so she had to go to
every event in eternal neck. And if you look at
all my interviews, every big interview I do, I'm wearing
(26:48):
a really high neck because I also get a spotchy neck.
My friends call it a hiky neck, like my whole
neck just breaks out in like I hope.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
She was.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Like, hey, girl, I get you.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
I remember that because it was so funny, Like I
feel like it's one of those moments where you want
to be friends with someone so so badly that you
just agree with everything they say, and I feel like
that's chrissy to Megan. Meg's like I get a huge
rash on my neck, and because it's like, yes, same,
I was like, I.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Don't know, girl, neck looks pretty good right now. I'm
not saying for watches.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
It's like I'm really tired. Yes, same, I'm also really tired.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
So that's when I loved her now to when I
got mad at her. It was tanned from Quierai and
they were doing the cooking and everything was cute. I
like did too. And my favorite point when he kind
of looked at her when she was doing the last
bits of the cooking and he was like, what are
those things that you're sprinkling on there? And she's like, oh,
dried flowers and love them. And she's like just putting
handfuls of dried flowers on anything. Anything in that kitchen
(27:45):
that's around just gets dried flowers floated. And but no,
it was when they were doing their arts and crafts,
so she was like, let's do aprons for your two kids.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
And I know where you're going with this.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Like she went from doing this beautiful silk screening on
scarves that looked so beautiful and artistic, and I was like,
oh my god, I could never like And I was
thinking to myself, she's really clever. She really knows what
she's doing. Sometimes when you see her do her caligraphy
and stuff like, this woman has proper skills that I
could never imagine having. And then she went from that,
she went from such a high height to such a
low low because then she got out these aprons and
(28:21):
she took a big chunk of celery, cut the top
off it, took the celery head, dunked it in some paint,
and then put it on the apron and then looked
at ten France from Queer Eye, who's like no one
for like being able to create incredible things, and goes and.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
He's like a fashion ic. He knows everything about everything
of fashion.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
And then she like dunks the painted celery, puts it
off and it leaves a big clump of paint, and
she looks at him and goes, see what we can create?
And I was like what. And then she they were
getting other vegetables and he's like, I'm gonna try it
with the lime and gets the lime and the paint
puts it and I was like, so this is what
I did in kindergarten. And even when I was in kindergarten,
I looked down and was like, this is beneath me,
(29:02):
like taking fruit and vegetables and putting it off, as
fruit and.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Vegetables were quite expense. When she started cutting that celery,
I was like, oh, I wonder what.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
They got to cook in here.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
And then I she had dunking the vegetables and paint
and I was like, oh no.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
You're like I hope you washed that off and ate
it afterwards. And also, the aprons look horrible. I was
gonna say they look fine, but you're right. They did
look horrible. You know myself. It was the worst thing
is that he's got these two young kids, and he
says that he has to go away for work a
lot of the time, and his kids get really upset,
and when they come back, they go to his husband.
More so, his kids get really upset when he's away
(29:35):
for work. And then Megan kind of insinuates that, like, oh,
well you're away now filming this like this is work,
but you get to take these aprons back. And I
was like, those aprons are so ugly. They are not
worth his kids loving him.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
TAM's gonna like be burning them on the way across.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
The Biro without a stand of Monker and like threw
him out the window and they went. They just flew
over a cliff because I was like, this man is
literally like is that a salary? He's literally like, oh,
when I leave my kids, they love me less. And
she was like, well, these aprons will make up for it. No.
(30:11):
I felt like a little bit protective of Megan Markle
as I was watching this show, is that she comes
across lovely and then she also comes across insane. And
I think the insane part comes from the editing in
a way, because do you remember the part where they
were making those little crack of cheese things and they
brawled them out of the oven and then she was like,
do you guys want some? And the camera panned around
(30:31):
and there was about fifteen people in the room, so
many people with cameras, so many producers. And they obviously
do show her talking back and forth to the camera
people throughout the show, like they break that fourth wall,
But at the same time, that was the first time
I saw just how many people in the room, and
they were all laughing and chatting. And that's when I
realized that, because sometimes when she looks crazy, it looks
like she's in a room by herself when she doesn't
(30:53):
have her guest. She's doing all that cooking and prepping
and stuff, and she's just talking, and she looks like
she's room by herself, and she keeps laughing and looking
down and laughing in but nothing funny has happened. Ye,
nothing remotely interesting has happened. So she looks crazy that
she's in a kitchen. It looks like she's laughing at herself,
saying I like to put lemon on things. Ha ha,
that's a crazy person. But then I realized that there's
(31:15):
so much that's been cut out that she's Everyone in
the room is laughing at something in conversation, and she's
joining in that conversation, but that's not being showing no. Yeah,
and she does the editing. She has said that she
goes through the notes, she does the editing, she does
the cuts. So but I just feel like someone needs
to come in and be like, hey, you look crazy,
and you don't have to because you're laughing with fifteen
other people in the room. And you know what it's
like when you're on those shoot days, and you know,
(31:36):
when we go and do the projects and stuff, like
you with these people all day, you do get a
little hysterical. You have in jokes, things are funny, but
we're just not seeing that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
And it's so.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Hard even when you're the one editing yeah, because you
know the context. Yeah, and that gets muddled, like you
can't see in the fresh eyes, which is why like
we never heard it. Yeah, allowed, But I do this,
I do agree with that, and I wish that in
some of those like takes where she is by herself
and prepping for the guests, I wish I pulled someone
from the crew to be with her, yeah, cause I
(32:07):
think that would have been so fun to watch her
interact with the normal person.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I do think sometimes I say this with love in
my heart, because all of these people are so talented
that it's okay that they're not TV personalities. But often
she would have a really well known chef or someone
on with her, and because they're not naturals in front
of the camera, she's having to do all the heavy
lifting with like chatting and trying to be funny, and
it's just not working. I feel like she's like Mindy
(32:31):
Kayling with her every episode or somewhat something like that.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Oh my god, I imagine if she had Mindy k
that would be incredible.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
I would watch She's just something like that to kind
of heighten it, because I mean, Megan Michael's very sweet,
but she's she's not funny. She's not funny intentionally, so
it kind of I feel like that's where it kind
of peops.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
She's trying to figure out, Like I think, also what
type of show she wants it to be. Yeah, and
like you said, if it's a guest who's like a
chef or someone who isn't like media facing, she has
to do the heavy lifting and be all the personality.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah, But when she.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Has Mindy Kayling or like Christy tig and like, she
can take a step back.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
And kind of bounce off the at and especially people
that she's actually friends with that she knows, he knows
how they will act in front of a camera exactly. Again,
as you were saying before, there's a many little tipbits
of her life. When she talks about the fact that
on their third date they went camping in Botswana, can
you imagine that you're in love with a guy you
think you're going to marry, and then you go and
spend five days together in a tent.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
No.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
I like camping, but not with someone I'm dating. No,
and not also in Botswana, it's like beautiful, but it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
He's crazy, And like third dates, I'd been like I'm
getting murdered by a prince.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
What a way to go. But also every time they
gave little tibbits of their wedding, like I haven't seen
those wedding place cards before, like the table settings or
even like saying.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
How like the menu had all like little bits of
like where all the food came from.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
And I was just imagined the Queen just reading.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Reading. The Queen since down and goes to Prince Philip,
like there's a map on our table showing where all
the food is from, and they just like get us
out of here. But then like they invented like a
special type of like michelin sta fried chicken to serve
with the after party, and it looks so good, and
I was like, this is the information I want, Like
what food did you serve at the after part of
your wedding? I don't even want to know why you
the Royals, although I want to know that as well,
but I also just want all this behind.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
I think the Queen eat fried chicken. Yes, I did the.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Queen eat the fried chicken bites. What does she call them?
The late night bite, the late night byes?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Fried chicken.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
No, I don't. I think the Queen would have tapped
out before the after party.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Yeah, for sure, for sure. So that is with Love
Meghan season two.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
What a rollic.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
I'm going to say, we're not getting a third season. Well,
I think she'll do something else with Netflix, but it
won't be their But again, I know they don't want
to film it, but I just want a documentary of
her life. I actually loved her like packing her suitcase,
jumping in her car, driving herself to La, having girls.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
I like that, or when she's out on the body
see though, Yeah, the girl's week in away when she
was like packing the baseball cap and she was like,
I made this on my husband's forty. There's like a
Joe yeah, and it was like the initials on the
cap was pH for Prince Harry.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
I loved that.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
That was so good. She was like, I have so
many of these and I wear them all the time.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
My god, I love it. Like in that way, I
was like, oh, you're taking the piss.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Did you think that was like a message to the
royal family.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Yeah, as I like, I'm taking the piss because we
call him Prince Hary at home, I think.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yeah, yeah, I love that. And even when she's out
on the boat with the sea urchins and all that
sort of stuff, like when she tried to like cook seafood, oh,
I genuinely thought she was gonna faint at the lobsters.
She's like, I'm okay with a fish. And he was
just like, you crack this lobster and then you pull
its head off, and she was like he was like
and look the lobsters say, Meghan, mean please, I need
(35:37):
to be eaten. That's what I mean when you've got
a really good co host with you. Because that she
was just like going for god, oh my god. He
did not care that and he was mating the lobster's
death to her, and she was she was so panicking.
She's like, oh, I'm just a bit hot. I'm gonna
take my cardigan off and like leaves the shot like no, Meghan,
come back. You're gonna eat the lobster. You need to
watch it die. That's the rules.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
And he's like, and we eat the urchins like reproductive system.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
And Meghan's like, I think we're going to cut that
out and he's like, oh, sorry, not reproductive. Have you
had a sea urchin? They're really good.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
It is the best thing I've ever put in my mouth.
Me too, It's so good, so good. So maybe would
get to see urchin tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Maybe like in the city of Yeah, we both.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Look close to the fish markets.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Okay, let's do that because we're just making our weeknd's
really expensive as well.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
I can't take twenty five.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I'm like, girl, no Netflix got a budget for this.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
I was just thinking cause o last episode where she's
cooking for the crew, just.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Imagining me being there, like I would have been ignoring
the heaving paler on my plane. Yeah, like running to them,
like taking a full lobster, smashing it into my play.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Like. This is why I think she just hasn't found
her audience, because the people watching it are the people
who want the Megan market intel, and I actually think
people who just like cooking and lifestyle shows. I mean,
obviously there's better ones out there, but it does feel
like that's the market she's going into, Like when she's
on the boat, when she's with the person who's explaining
how they got the sea urchins and what they do,
and I'm like, this is super interesting. But I also
(36:57):
feel like we just don't consume content in a Netflix
sense like that, Like it felt like you should be
TikTok videos, like if she put these up as little
TikTok videos are like here's how I do the fruit art,
here's how I do have the flower arranging. Here's how
you cut open a sea urchin, Like, people watch the
shit out of that.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
She needs to get back together with Gwyned Paltrow. Yeah,
and she needs to be like, hey, I need to
get some lead magnets off you. I need to steal
some of your audience. That's the audience she needs, yes,
like the people who genuinely follow Goop, not Gwyned Paltrow.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
She needs that the Goop followers. That's so true.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Well, that's our business advice to Meghan market. We'll plan
for your megs, right, We'll send it through more packing,
less art with vegetables. So that is our review. I
brilliant a review with love Megan, I think, much nicer
than our first review from season one.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Yeah we've come around, Yeah we've come around.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
But also like I think the first one was maybe
just a shock to our system because we just weren't
expecting some of the things that happened. But this one
was quite a nice watch, pleasant watch, pleasant watch. We
watched it, so you don't have to, So there we go.
But it is on Netflix now if you do want
to watch it.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
If you do, don't have to, Dare.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Thank you so much for listening to this episode of
the Spill. Do not forget to follow this spill on TikTok.
This episode was produced by Minichie Swiren with sound production
by Scott's Tronik.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
And we'll back here on your.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Podcast feed for a week and watch at six am
tomorrow and another episode of the Spill.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Bye Bye,
Popular Podcasts
Law & Order: Criminal Justice System - Season 1 & Season 2
Season Two Out Now! Law & Order: Criminal Justice System tells the real stories behind the landmark cases that have shaped how the most dangerous and influential criminals in America are prosecuted. In its second season, the series tackles the threat of terrorism in the United States. From the rise of extremist political groups in the 60s to domestic lone wolves in the modern day, we explore how organizations like the FBI and Joint Terrorism Take Force have evolved to fight back against a multitude of terrorist threats.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal
Gregg Rosenthal and a rotating crew of elite NFL Media co-hosts, including Patrick Claybon, Colleen Wolfe, Steve Wyche, Nick Shook and Jourdan Rodrigue of The Athletic get you caught up daily on all the NFL news and analysis you need to be smarter and funnier than your friends.