August 29, 2025 • 32 mins
Laura has declared this the most bizarre episode we’ve ever recorded—and honestly, she’s not wrong. We’re diving into the most irrational fears movies have given us, and things go completely off the rails.
From strange phobias to the wildest movie moments that stuck with us for life, this one is pure chaos in the best way.
Hit play for a hilarious ride through the fears you didn’t even know you had—thanks to Hollywood.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges
the traditional owners of land and borders that this podcast
is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill,
your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnick and I. Okay, guys,
(00:32):
it's taken us a while start this episode because Emily
has been hysterically laughing in her own notes this episode.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Are you still guys this episode?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I'm going to be so just to be clear, you're
laughing at your own notes, but the only jokes I've made,
I've been laughing all day at my desk. Okay, can't wait,
don't wait, wait to high art this episode. So there's
no easy way to say this next part. We don't
have a hook for today's episode. Emily and I were
just we actually have no reason to do this episode
except that we were sitting in the kitchen here at
(01:05):
our shared office and Mamma Mia working on a little
work trip that we're going on soon, and we were
talking about what we were going to do on this
very special Friday and thinking that although there's been some
fun stuff this week, Taylor Elison Swift got engaged. Yeah,
I'm Soufset.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I wasn't on that episode. Yeah, well you had TV on.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yes, yes, I had a sweet which is a great choice.
No offense to you, but I didn't think you were
in that bracket. You were an expert far down the
list of who I was gonna call. But there's also
been a lot of tents in sad stuff in the news,
like the summer I turned pretty cast. They're copying it
right now, we're all feeling it. So we thought, what
can we do to bring some light and happiness into
Spiller's lives? And so I said to Emily, what are
(01:44):
you truly afraid of? Which is the way I started
all my fun conversations. And then we started talking about
movies that have given us truly irrational fears that we
would normally never say out loud. And these aren't run
of the mill fears. These aren't a log falling off
the back of a truck final destination. That's a shared
fear we all have that, that's.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
A shared fear, and it's a reasonable fear. Yeah, I'm
talking about fears that I've had since I was twelve
because of certain movies. Yeah, that till this day. As
a twenty nine year old woman. There are some things
I still can't get around here and you.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Don't want to tell people, and so we're not going
don't worry. This isn't gonna be a scary episode, and
maybe just for more of emotional fear for people listening
at home. But we're going to talk about some horror
movies but also some real life movies. I've got a
rom com on my list that has put the fear
of God into me for many years, so we're going
to get into it.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I've got a children's movie.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Oh yeah, it started younger, it started young. So here
we are irrational fears that movies have given us that
we would normally never say out loud. Emily, this doc
that has been cracking you up for the last hour,
do you want to kick us off?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Okay, I'm going to say my in my opinion, funniest
way till last. Okay, So I'm going to start off
with a horror movie that I watched when I was
way too young. It has your favorite actress in it.
It's The Grudge two thousand and four.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Oh yeah, yeah, Sarah, and that is my favorite actress.
Thank you, so Sarah.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Michelle sm She plays Karen Davis. She moves to Tokyo
and she starts working in this house as a carer,
and people stop dying. Everyone who enters this house dies.
There's a lot of woo woo happening. It's like proper,
proper horror. You would be surprised to know that this
(03:28):
gave me a fear of intercoms.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Because I was gonna say, like, if you said to people,
I'm scared from the Grudge, that would be totally a
rational and above board fear because it is a horror
movie designed to scare the shit out of people. Have
you seen the original Japanese version.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Which is way scary, Yeah, yeah, scarier.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
So their Merican version is watered down, but it's still scary.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Still scary. Okay. So the reason I'm scared of intercoms.
You know, when you watch a horror movie as a
kid and it's scarce the living daylight's out of you
that you can't stop thinking about. It becomes your whole
life because you have nothing else going around you. Yeah,
like back in my day, we didn't have the TikTok,
we didn't have the YouTube, we didn't.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Have like grandmother, what did you call it?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Vieo.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
The do you call web videos?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I'm pretty sure that anyway, I mean, I do sad
that was recorded.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
So I would watch a horror movie with my friends
because it was the cool thing to do as a kid,
and then this horror movie would just stick to me
for like years. So I had to develop coping mechanisms
to make sure that I'm never in that situation and
that my friends there Michelle Keller is in all the
time apparently.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
So the whole movie, you see the Grudge, which is
like this woman in this house is killing everyone. It's
like seems like she's stuck in the house. Yeah, and
like you'll only die if you go in the house,
and then she kills you in the house and no
one ever sees you again. But there's this one scene
where her brother in law goes into the house, but
then he leaves and goes home.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, so you think he's safe.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
You think he's safe, but then he comes back and
he gets killed. Yeah, but guess what, there's one other person,
his wife, So she hasn't been in the house, or
maybe she has, but then she left and she was fine.
She's at home in her apartment, living her best life.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
So she thinks she's safe. She thinks she's good, she's safe.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
She doesn't even know this is going on. She thinks
the husband's at work, yeah, let alone dead. So she's
at home, cooking dinner, enjoying her time in an apartment.
As I said, her intercom rings, Bisbys.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I've seen this with you many times. I'm like on
the edge of my seat, trying to think of what's
gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
She answers silence, and I'm like, no, it can't be
the grudge.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
The grudge lives at home, can't leave you can't leave
the grudges house bound. We all know that the grudges
you will never go to Tokyo. You seeing at home.
The grudge can't get me, The girls can't get me.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
And then it rings again. She's like, hello, it was
a husband's voice, but was it her husband? It was
the grudge. Till this day, if someone rings my intercom
in my apartment, I cannot talk.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I just buzz them in immediately. I cannot talk. I'm
so scared I'll hear a voice and I'll not be them.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
No intercomms. Actually, I mean thanks for this new fear
and lock so I have a huge fear of intercoms
and security cameras. For that reason is that I've seen
them use too many times in horror movies. To the
movies like golden tickets, oh one hundred percent, all these
things that are meant to keep you safe actually because
they're always used in horror movies as devices to foreshadow
(06:24):
death activity. The whole thing was.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
On a camera. Yeah, wasn't it on camera across a bed?
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah. The other thing is I will not live in
an apartment that has a little peephole. You're a little
thing because you're supposed to look through that to see
if there's danger outside. So it should actually be a
safety thing. But do you know how many horror movies
where they look through the lens, even the latest Evil
Dead movie where they look for the lens and the
mother when she's been taken over by the Evil Dead
curse is staring and smiling back into it.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
It's smile, don't smile.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Smiles are the scariest thing. Intercoms smiles, Ruphlund Truck. Well, okay,
so I wasn't scared of the intercom in my apartment,
and it does ring every soften with deliveries or whatnot,
or the random friend who's popping by unannounced. I'm not
answering that thing now.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
No, well, now, okay, what you have to do is
you just louse them men, don't let them talk.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Oh well, then I'm going to let a stranger into
my house. You know what, I've also seen the strangers.
I've seen all the home. This is so why I
live in a fortress. I live many floors up. You
swite car together.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Maybe we won't let anyone in our apartments ever.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Again, I think that's a good idea. It seems fair.
My first one is a little movie that came out
in twenty thirteen, starring Sandra Bullock and George Clooney. But
this is not a wrong com It is a movie
set in space called Grab. Oh my God, have you
seen it? Yeah? Yeah, it's actually I should say great movie.
(07:50):
I actually think this is the movie that Sandra Bullock
should have won her Oscar for, not The blind Side,
because she was a great in that, but she got
one of those It's Time oscars. And the reason she
got cast in this movie is that she just she
was getting sent all these scripts. She wanted to do
this big part she got sent all of these scripts
and all ship, all the women parts in Hollywood were shit.
So she called herund to her friends and she said,
is there an incredible part out there that's a male
(08:12):
role that we could just switch to a female and
it wouldn't affect the story. And that was Gravity. So
the movie itself, it's meant to be like a tense thriller,
and it is, but I don't think it's It's not why.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
She has like a man's name in the movie.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Her name's Ryan.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
So they just literally didn't change anything, you.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Know, They literally did no heavy lifting, which I guess
goes to show that it didn't need to be a man.
It was written for a man, but they just put
a woman in there and it was like, literally nothing changed.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Smashing glass ceilings.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Exactly, smashing glass ceilings, instilling fear and people everywhere. So
Sandra Bullock and George Clooney are these two astronauts working
on this space ship up in space. She's more of
the tech. She's there to do, like the work. He's
like the cavalier kind of cowboy astronaut who's like really
he's basically George Clooney.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
He's basically like Brad Pen and.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
He's like the door on the ship, this huge space junk.
This is when my space talk's going to get a
bit non technical. This huge unexpected storm of space junk
blast past them because a Russian has fired another ship
and it's put this debris everywhere, And so George and
Sandra out on a spacewalk fixing things. They get thrown
away and their entire spaceship is destroyed and all their
(09:20):
crew killed instantly. It's not looking good for Sandra and
George until they realize that they can get to another
spaceship that will get them home, but they don't have
any energy left in their spaceship things. So they're floating
along and as they're trying to hop onto this other
spaceship to get in there to get the shuttle back
to Earth. This is their only chance that stands between
them and death, Sandra Billocks character gets wrapped up in
(09:41):
the ropes that's pulling them, and then she's like, I'm
gonna have to let myself gone, and George Colooney's trying
to untangle her, and then all of a sudden he
makes this one decision and he goes to pull the
rope towards her, and then he lets go and that
shot of his hand just letting go, because that's instant
death and he's still there. But the thing is there's
no fuel left in their space shoots, so then he
is floating away, and he floats away for so long
(10:04):
that would be the longest, saddest death. And she's calling
out to him like say no, trying to get him back.
He's dead in many hours to come. And that has
given me a fear of being lost in space.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, it looks so scary, just.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
That finality of being like that shot of his hand
letting gold of the rope and he'm floating away.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Now I'm just seeing of him where he's like a
little dot in this vast mass of blackness, and he's just.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Going to keep floating till his air runs.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Nothing you can do and rather still you can't feel,
you're just aware.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
And he's trying to give her instructions to the very
last moment until he floats so far away that their
communication cuts out. And can I tell you, I know, yeah,
I would have liked.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
To be one of the crew members. You don't even
know what's happening.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, it's just like Bank not George Clooney suffered for hours.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
He could still be up there.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
He could still be there. Well, his body is floating
around up there somewhere, So just think about that. But
I know what you're going to say, Laura, that's crazy.
You're not going to float away in space. But I
have nightmares about this, and I think about it all
the time, and it's becoming a less irrational fear and
more of a rational fear because I feel like, no,
don't don't you think tell you this, let me tell
(11:11):
you this before you love me. Space travel is becoming
more and more kind of part of the world. Next
Katy Perry, I'm just saying they do. They do a
media influence. I was just like, now for the media.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Girls from a music can I just say, it's not
trivial space.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Do not let go of that rope folding onto every
road in the air.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I've got my mic I've got my whole scripted front.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
It'd be the one astronaut who wouldn't like under a
seatbelt you can fight around now like no, no, it's
like you basically just went out of an aeroplane.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Because I'm just saying it used to be crazy like
I didn't know anyone who went to space. I've met
Katy Perry.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Space.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
I met Katy Perry. Katy Perry went to space. Space
tourism is happening.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
You know what's going to happen next, a media for Mill,
which is what we go and where you go and
experience something to write about it. This company, you're.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Going to write about the.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Masks not out of the realm of possibility than in
ten years. I'm sitting at my desk at Mama Mirea
because I'm still here doing this job, and someone taps
it on the shoulder like Hailraa. We've got this client.
It's Space, It's Space, it's Spaceos. They're doing a media
for mill like they want to you know, women have
the spending power. We know that Mamma Mia speaks to women.
The spill speaks to women. Will you go in like,
(12:53):
go up in space. It's totally fine. Katy Perry did it.
Every Celebri's done it. By the next one, I'm up
in space.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
And it's like, when you please include a saturin mention
Saturday from a good pr right now?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah, please just pop in a few like Mars mentions
a Satin mentioned Polutos like back, he's.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
A planet again to come back, but make it sound natural.
Did not mention gravity.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Gravity has done bad My no goes. It's just like gravity,
some of them the Alien franchise, Alien Franchise movies and
TV shows. I'm trying to get audition to space. So
now I love the movie Gravity, but I can't watch
it again because I'm so worried about those nightmares, which
are just intensifying as space moves closer and closer and
(13:43):
closer to me in a career way.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Oh my god, I love that so much. That's so funny. Okay, Okay,
my next one house of wax?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
What house of wax? Oh? House of wax? Okay, I
didn't know what you think. I don't know, said Hassleback.
I'm like, well, like the American commentator, she's terrifying. Yeah,
Elizabeth Hasselback of WA.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, gave me a fear that still runs through today
of madam.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I fear of Chad Michael Murray.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Pals acting, Oh my god, there's a Madam to swords
near where we live in Darling Harbor.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I've ever been? Have you been? Should we do?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Like?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Like? Of course, should we do like a fear conversion, like.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
We'll go in because you know what when you walk past,
because they don't have blind so they keep it like
open so you can see in. And the first people
you see is mean marry Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
They look nothing like making So if anyone doesn't know,
Madame Chords is like a thing around the world, right,
it's been a big tourist trap.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
It's a big of tourist trap. It's like these big
wax figures of celebrities and they're meant to be super
super lifelike. When we got to Australia, some low right now,
because one in New York is pretty good and I
went to that one before I watched Chowser Wax. Yeah,
the ones I've been other places.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
The Sydney Wance like they just poured it into like a.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Te so house of wax. The movie does have that,
Chad Michael Murray and Paris Hilton. It's about these group
of friends who are on their way to a football match.
They get stranded, their class break down, and all that's
in that town is this big wax museum that's run
by two evil brothers and it is so so scary.
(15:28):
The way they kill them is by pouring hot wax
on them. And they go into the wax museum and
they're like, oh, these wax figures look real, and then
they're like, wait, I think these are.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
People, And I was like what, Yeah, they're people that
have been killed horribly and then preserved from all time
in their waxident. But for people, yeah, no spoilers. Some
of the characters get turned into wax. That scene where
the Gilmore Girls guy, the Supernatural actor, Yeah, Darry Poljecia,
I guess we'll spoil it's been for twenty it's just
been after for twenty years. The other day, Paris Hilton
(15:59):
commenting on it, Oh my god, that scene where they're
like cut his face open, yeah, because he's still alive
the whole time they're making him to a wax statue.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I think it's parasitallicon where they pull wax on her
and she's like and then she's stop screaming, she's done.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah, and she gets the oh yeah, the arrow through
the head. Yeah. Oh. It is a gruesome movie that
was peak like slasher period. I love that, and that
gives you a fear of so many things. Going on
a road trip with a sibling and a boyfriend. Yeah,
that's what they do.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Bad idea, bad idea.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Small towns, small towns, two brothers, two brothers. Well there's
a hidden brother at the end.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Remember what don't know?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Don't two brothers? Huge fear small town locals, locals, local
businesses and wax wax and small business Madam, don't support
small don't support small businesses because they're clearly in the
wax industry handles out family owned businesses. God, sorry, too dangerous,
bringing capitalism. I don't think a capitalism tries to turn
(16:57):
you into a finey wax statue.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
That's mine, Madame de Sword's okay.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Later, Well, since you do that, I'll do a horror
movie as well, which we weren't going to do because
the hips horror movies. I give you a fear of, like,
you know, like a stranger coming to your house and
killing you, or a slasher, or like some sort of
magical thing happening. There's lots of those kind of ones.
But this is a real problem every day for me.
Every day I live with this because you know, I
love showering, I love cleanliness, I love shower I love
(17:23):
being clean of hand sanitizer. I love soap, I love water,
but I'm scared of the bathroom because a lot of
terrible things have happened in horror movies and bathrooms. But
I want to talk more about like one of the
ultimate slashes psychological thrillers, Psycho. Psycho. Yeah, well, this is
(17:43):
the famous scene from it, Like there's like the movie
itself is very famous, but I remember watching it. I
watched as a teenager. I saved up some of my
money from Kmart and I took my back down to
the video store. I rented some DVDs because I'm gonna
get into horror. I'm going to get into movies. I
rented Psycho. I was like fourteen, because I was like,
that's the movie that people watch. Watched it in broad
daylight while all my family was out. I was so
(18:03):
terrified by that final scene where he's rocking. I'm gonna
give spoilers away because it's one of the best plot
twists in the world. But there's someone who looks in
the camera and smiles again, smiling.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
And I was so terrified that at three o'clock in
the afternoon, I couldn't even be in the house. I
was too freaked out. So I went and sat in
the front yard in the sunlight and waited for my
family to come home.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Nothing bad happens in the sun Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Well I do want to be in the house.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah, where the bathroom was.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
So the reason is that. So the lead actresses Janetly,
and she's playing this woman called Marian who steals some money.
So she did a bad thing, but she didn't deserve
to die. Stole some money so that her boyfriend would
marry her. This is also a cautionary tale against marriage,
love and relationships.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
And stealing money.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah. Marriage. And she goes to this tire little hotel
and she's going to take the money back. The next day,
she feels bad for stealing. But while she's in the
totel room, she goes to the shower. She's having a
nice relaxing shower. It's meant to be warm and relaxing
and lovely, and then she turns around, screams, and she
gets stabbed to death in the shower. And that was
a very deliberate thing from Alfred Hitchcock because he and
(19:04):
his team were like, where do women in particular, but
where do people feel the most vulnerable? And they just
got that in and realizing what's exactly, and now you think,
sorry to everyone who's listening to this. Now you think
about that every time you get into the shower, because
you're going into an enclosed room, mostly alone. You're standing
in a tiny, enclosed space from which you cannot escape.
(19:25):
You've often got your eyes closed, naked back to the door,
and you're naked, and you usually don't have a phone.
Everything around you there's water, so people are less likely
to hear you scream. You're in a confined space. And
so even now when I go into the shower, I
can't have my back to the door. And I live alone,
so I do check that the doors or lots before
I shower, but I have a defensive shower, so I'm watching.
I don't put my head into the water for a
(19:46):
long time. I don't put my back to the door.
I know where my phone is, I know where my
keys are.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
It's actually like, no, I think that fear is so
valid because I feel like Psycho made a full cultural
shift with that scene. Because I don't know a single
person now who showers facing the faucet. Everyone always turns around.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
So do you have a death wish? You if you
shower facing.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
And watch Psycho, you know that scene. You know what
happens when you face the.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Shower, and then once you get out of the shower,
then you've got the mirror, and everyone knows that the
mirror is also trying to kill you.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Cab it in mirror. If you open it, you can't
close it again.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
You can't close it again because there'll be a serial
killed behind you and your ghost. And you also can't
put your head down and like wash your hands then
put your head up. That's when the killer appears when
you're looking. So now I can't use my bathroom mirror.
I've got a back out of there, I can't turn
the lights on it off, and I can't shower. I'm
in a really bad spot here.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Okay, yeah, okay, that's valid. That's bad.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Okay, my last one. Okay, I was so nervous to
put this one in because I know people will make
fun of me. But it's such a true fear I
have that I feel like I started getting over it
as an adult, okay, but it's still a bit like
freaked out when I remember that it exists. One hundred
and two dumbats one and two. The sequel gave me
(21:00):
a fear of Big Ben.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
The clock in London. Okay, Emily stopped breathing. Everyone, it's
so serciot, my god, it's big betting with the room
with us right now.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
No, because Oka. Firstly, one hundred and one Damnatians came
out in nineteen ninety six, which is when I was born,
So I missed that. I was old enough to go
to the cinema to watch one hundred and two Dumatis.
So that was my first introduction to the Dalmatian universe.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Kuela Deville played by Glenn Close, Yeah, scared shit out
of me. So so scared because if you remember one
hundred and one Damnations, they like defeat her and then
she goes into therapy.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Oh, I should say, before you go any further, please
excuse my ignorance. I have not seen the cinematic masterpiece
that is one hundred and two.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Let me tell you, you'll fear for your life.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
So, one hundred and two Dumbatians starts off with Kuela
Deville in rehab. She's going through somebody, she's going through
some movie. She's going through some therapy to help her
get over her hatred of Dalmatian dogs. So it opens
up with her in like this psychoatic unit where she's
like in this room and she's covered in all of
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these Dalmation puppies. So we're licking her and playing with her,
and she's loving them. She's laughing, she's having the best time.
But she's been conditioned to now love Dalmatians and she's
like such a good person, she loves Dalmatians. But there's
something wrong with this condition. Yeah, she goes out on
the streets of London. Yeah, Big Ben strikes. Her face changes,
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Big Ben strikes again. Her face changes again, Big Ben
strikes again. She's now back to the original Corolla Deville.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
So well, like the sound sound of.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Big Ben just completely undid all that work of her.
The power of sound.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Okay, it's sound. I don't want to say. When I was.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I watched that in cinema, I was like, no, not
big Ben.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Not Big Ben. The one beacon in safety we had.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Four years afterwards. Any type of bell, noise or sound
of photos like sent me into a as like a child.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I couldn't cope with Ben Ben, anything, anything big anyone
called Ben. Churches and churches if Emily doesn't come to
your wedding. Oh, if your name's Ben, don't.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Take it to bell at your wedding. Consider me uninvited.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Okay, have you what did you do when you went
to London? That's an ado. You've been to London.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, I had been to London and I saw Big Ben.
I didn't do the tour my parents at the tour.
You had to not go.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I'm not even joking, guys, I was like twenty one, when.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Everyone's likely you were ten years old.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
No, no, no, no, no, that's twenty one when I
went to see Big Ben. I feel like I'm glad
I've been exposed to Big Ben. I feel like I
needed that.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Otherwise it would have been as looming fear always in
your mind. Now you're like, I've seen it. I've looked
into the eyes of Big Ben and I trembled. But
I did it.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Oh my god. It also gave me a fear of
women who die there.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Because gun Closes has got half Cola Deville, half black
and half white.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
My mom couldn't die her parents, she couldn't cover up
the white. She had to do it in private. Oh
my god, I would freak out Corola Deville like Glenn Close,
amazing actress. Oh my god, she did things to me
as a kid that I was like, I can't get past.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Did you have a dog growing up? No?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I got my dog's way after so you went.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
What would know?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I wasn't scared of dogs?
Speaker 1 (24:37):
No, no, I no, no. But I thought, because the
whole thing about Glen Close, I was just scared of Close.
I think Ben, what Big Ben did to Glenn Close.
I mean, it's something we don't talk about enough in
pop culture. No, I thought you'd be scared because Corolla
Devill would come and take your dogs away. But there
were no dogs.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
But I was scared you would take me away. Sure
it was you speak a Wikipedia description of one hundred
and two dombations. Please, I feel like it understands my fear. Okay,
it says Kroella transforms into a good woman after she
leaves prison. However, the sound of Big Ben, the sounded
Big Ben, causes her to go back to a devious way,
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and she decides to kidnap one hundred and two dumbation.
He's for a new coat, just so that they.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Knew she's serious this time. I mean, look, I understand
the sound of big bed. It's in Wikipedia, so it's true.
It happened. My god, people have irrational fears of stuff,
And can I say I understand because if you're gonna
kill a puppy, you'd kill a child exactly, Like it's
not that big of a jump. No, no, no, no, no,
So one hundred and three damatians did they ever make that?
Like that would have been the next step?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Watch out, watch out? She could have catched me in that.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
She would have brought another landmarks the Eiffel Tower.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Against tickets two one hundred and three dumbations like count
me out.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
No. Also, nothing scares you like things you've see in
your childhood. I don't even talk about the movies that
scared me my childhood, Like I don't even say them
out loud, because like it's still too much of a
real fear.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
It's so scary. Like there's some things I wouldn't do,
Like if you ever asked me if I wanted to
interview gun clothes, I'd be like hard, No.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
I understand, because I feel like she hates me the well. No, no,
the actress who scared me in my childhood from a
movie is unfortunately still alive and still acting, And anytime
I see her at anything, I'm just like, get that
woman away from me, just like her face terrifies me.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Who is it?
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Angel Right, She's not the most scary person you've ever seen, Loud,
I don't want she is scary. I exist scared. I
won't even interview people who are in movies with her.
I can't, they can't. I kind of like Katie Perry
and I link through space, not being linked to Angelica
Houston anyway. I kind of watch ever After its favorite movie. Anyway. Well,
I feel like I'm ending us on a bad note
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now because I wanted to bring up a movie that
has appeared on this podcast before, because it's one of
my favorite movies of all all time?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Is it Jurassic Park?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
No, that's your favorite movie? And I wish you wouldn't
bring it up?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
How many times can I bring?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Too many times? I wouldn't normally repeat. But this movie
did give me a fear of misunderstanding or romantic situation,
something that I live I live in fear of. It's
under the Tuscan sun.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Oh you love this love.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I last talked about it actually just a year ago
before I went to Europe. I talked about it as
all the movies. It's a beautiful movie. I also watched
it while I was in Rome last year. I just
had like in my little hotel room one night after
I'd been out dancing at a piazza. But that's it
is the most beautiful movie. It's Diane Lane and she
has this terrible breakup, and so her friends, who were
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played by Sandra Ow and Kate Walsh from Gray's Anatomy,
but this is pre Gray's Anatomy, and they're a lesbian couple.
They've just found out that Sandro's character is pregnant, so
they had booked this holiday to Tuscany, so give it
to their dear friend Frances, because she's gone through this
terrible breakup and her husband, because she was the breadwinner,
took their house, took everything. So she goes to Tuscany.
And while she's on this bus trip through Tuscany, which
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is another fear, a bus trip with randoms, another fear unlooked,
she sees this beautiful villa and she jumps off the
bus and she buys it and she starts doing it up.
So that part is beautiful. But while she's there she's
obviously wanting to meet someone she never thinks. She thinks
romances are over for her forever. And then she meets
this absolutely stunning sexy man called Marchelochello, and she and
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Marcello have like a wild romantic twist, and he lives
hours away in Positano. It's the whole thing. It's a
whole thing of like she's going to go visit him
and he's going to visit her. But then Sandro arrives heavily,
heavily pregnant. Kate Walsh has left her probably to go
star on private practice, and so she has to keep
pushing Marcello every couple of months, like I can't come,
I can't come, I can't come. And all of a sudden,
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once the baby arrives, she realizes that everyone here around
her has a life. Everyone, all her neighbors, the people
who are working on a house, Sandra, everyone has something.
And she's like, this is my moment. I'm going to
go to Marcello. And so he had said that he
had a dream of her months ago on a white dress.
So she goes and buys the most beautiful white dress.
She packs up all her stuff, she travels across Italy.
(28:56):
She gets a boat, a car, a motorbike to get
up to this little place in Positano when he lives.
She gets there and she is she sees him, and
she was like, basically, I am in love with you.
We have been waiting for so long. I can't wait
to be with you. I'm here and I'm in the
white dress. And he's like, whoa, you've really misread the situation. Yeah,
we had a thing a few months ago and it
(29:17):
was nice. And there's a woman in his bed in
the same room that she's come into, and he's like,
I'm so sorry, you've misread this situation. It's all in
your head and this is not a big romantic moment.
And then she has to hire tailor back to her
villa and Tuscany humiliated. And so now I live in
fear of misreading a romantic situation.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
But you're not the kind of person that would do that.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
No, But I'm also trying to take like big swings
in life. But now I live. Even if a guy
was standing in front of me in a room full
of flowers and candles and he held out a ring
and said, will you marry me? I said, I would
be like, I'm so sorry. Just to be super clear,
is that a ring for someone else? At the photographer?
Does he know what's going on? Like? Should we like check?
(29:58):
Like I wouldn't even post a photo ID check the
caption with him first, Like I live in fear of
misreading a situation romantic or otherwise. I think romantic would
be the worst.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
How about what if I read all your romantic situation
please and then give you the down You think that.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I wouldn't call you if that happened, but I would
because I feel like you're really good at cutting through.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Yeah I would.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I would cutting through.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
I'll tell you how.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
You'd be like hmm put him on face time of
like okay, he's on my knee. You be like yeah,
show me the room and I'd be like, yeah, be
like mmm, flowers, how big is the ring? Like is
this happening?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Like I feel like your word can be tuscan Son.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
You'll be like is this a Tuscan Sun situat?
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah. I'll be like I'm so sorry, that's so nice
one second Emily tuscan Son. So that is an irrational
fear I have now of leading, even if I'm somewhere
and I get asked out. I'm just like, do you
mean like as friends? This is a networking thing? Is
it for coffee? Like?
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I like that you use that example, though, because I
do feel like irrational fears do spur from pop culture
moments that you've digested and have made it like your
whole world, because you think of like every little aspect
of everything, like your favorite favorite movie, like your aic park.
You know, like every little scene, every little aspect. You
think about it over and over again. So obviously you
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think about not just like the best stuff you love
about it, but also like, oh my god, imagine that
happens to me.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Imagine if that happened to me. And also it's the
part she has to go back in the friend's like,
how was it you guys?
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Amom you're still wearing the white dress.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, she was still wearing the light dress. So I
live in fear. I would rather fall for Cliff in
Italy than go through that.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
I die that dress and then go back.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
I feel like, oh my god, God there and he
was dead and he said my name before he died.
I can't want to tell you no one needs to
go to Positano. So that keeps good. No one's asked
me to.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
We're not going to we're not going to Tokyo. We're
not going to big them.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
We're not going to space to space unless the brand
fee is right. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Hey, yeah, yeah, the money, the money.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
No, we're not seeing the money, and we're not showering,
and we're not trusting small family businesses. This is some
life lessons, guy, life lessons.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I hope you wrote them down.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Yeah, saying them again. Stay safe out there.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Thank you so much for listening to this episode of
This Field today. Did not forget to follow us on TikTok.
We are at the Spill podcast. The Spill is produced
by Militias Myron with sound production by Scott Stronik. We'll
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for all of our celebrity headlines with morning Tea and
then another Spill episode at three pm.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Bye bye
You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges
the traditional owners of land and borders that this podcast
is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill,
your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnick and I. Okay, guys,
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it's taken us a while start this episode because Emily
has been hysterically laughing in her own notes this episode.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Are you still guys this episode?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I'm going to be so just to be clear, you're
laughing at your own notes, but the only jokes I've made,
I've been laughing all day at my desk. Okay, can't wait,
don't wait, wait to high art this episode. So there's
no easy way to say this next part. We don't
have a hook for today's episode. Emily and I were
just we actually have no reason to do this episode
except that we were sitting in the kitchen here at
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our shared office and Mamma Mia working on a little
work trip that we're going on soon, and we were
talking about what we were going to do on this
very special Friday and thinking that although there's been some
fun stuff this week, Taylor Elison Swift got engaged. Yeah,
I'm Soufset.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I wasn't on that episode. Yeah, well you had TV on.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yes, yes, I had a sweet which is a great choice.
No offense to you, but I didn't think you were
in that bracket. You were an expert far down the
list of who I was gonna call. But there's also
been a lot of tents in sad stuff in the news,
like the summer I turned pretty cast. They're copying it
right now, we're all feeling it. So we thought, what
can we do to bring some light and happiness into
Spiller's lives? And so I said to Emily, what are
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you truly afraid of? Which is the way I started
all my fun conversations. And then we started talking about
movies that have given us truly irrational fears that we
would normally never say out loud. And these aren't run
of the mill fears. These aren't a log falling off
the back of a truck final destination. That's a shared
fear we all have that, that's.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
A shared fear, and it's a reasonable fear. Yeah, I'm
talking about fears that I've had since I was twelve
because of certain movies. Yeah, that till this day. As
a twenty nine year old woman. There are some things
I still can't get around here and you.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Don't want to tell people, and so we're not going
don't worry. This isn't gonna be a scary episode, and
maybe just for more of emotional fear for people listening
at home. But we're going to talk about some horror
movies but also some real life movies. I've got a
rom com on my list that has put the fear
of God into me for many years, so we're going
to get into it.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I've got a children's movie.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Oh yeah, it started younger, it started young. So here
we are irrational fears that movies have given us that
we would normally never say out loud. Emily, this doc
that has been cracking you up for the last hour,
do you want to kick us off?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Okay, I'm going to say my in my opinion, funniest
way till last. Okay, So I'm going to start off
with a horror movie that I watched when I was
way too young. It has your favorite actress in it.
It's The Grudge two thousand and four.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Oh yeah, yeah, Sarah, and that is my favorite actress.
Thank you, so Sarah.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Michelle sm She plays Karen Davis. She moves to Tokyo
and she starts working in this house as a carer,
and people stop dying. Everyone who enters this house dies.
There's a lot of woo woo happening. It's like proper,
proper horror. You would be surprised to know that this
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gave me a fear of intercoms.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Because I was gonna say, like, if you said to people,
I'm scared from the Grudge, that would be totally a
rational and above board fear because it is a horror
movie designed to scare the shit out of people. Have
you seen the original Japanese version.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Which is way scary, Yeah, yeah, scarier.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
So their Merican version is watered down, but it's still scary.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Still scary. Okay. So the reason I'm scared of intercoms.
You know, when you watch a horror movie as a
kid and it's scarce the living daylight's out of you
that you can't stop thinking about. It becomes your whole
life because you have nothing else going around you. Yeah,
like back in my day, we didn't have the TikTok,
we didn't have the YouTube, we didn't.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Have like grandmother, what did you call it?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Vieo.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
The do you call web videos?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I'm pretty sure that anyway, I mean, I do sad
that was recorded.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
So I would watch a horror movie with my friends
because it was the cool thing to do as a kid,
and then this horror movie would just stick to me
for like years. So I had to develop coping mechanisms
to make sure that I'm never in that situation and
that my friends there Michelle Keller is in all the
time apparently.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
So the whole movie, you see the Grudge, which is
like this woman in this house is killing everyone. It's
like seems like she's stuck in the house. Yeah, and
like you'll only die if you go in the house,
and then she kills you in the house and no
one ever sees you again. But there's this one scene
where her brother in law goes into the house, but
then he leaves and goes home.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, so you think he's safe.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
You think he's safe, but then he comes back and
he gets killed. Yeah, but guess what, there's one other person,
his wife, So she hasn't been in the house, or
maybe she has, but then she left and she was fine.
She's at home in her apartment, living her best life.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
So she thinks she's safe. She thinks she's good, she's safe.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
She doesn't even know this is going on. She thinks
the husband's at work, yeah, let alone dead. So she's
at home, cooking dinner, enjoying her time in an apartment.
As I said, her intercom rings, Bisbys.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I've seen this with you many times. I'm like on
the edge of my seat, trying to think of what's
gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
She answers silence, and I'm like, no, it can't be
the grudge.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
The grudge lives at home, can't leave you can't leave
the grudges house bound. We all know that the grudges
you will never go to Tokyo. You seeing at home.
The grudge can't get me, The girls can't get me.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
And then it rings again. She's like, hello, it was
a husband's voice, but was it her husband? It was
the grudge. Till this day, if someone rings my intercom
in my apartment, I cannot talk.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I just buzz them in immediately. I cannot talk. I'm
so scared I'll hear a voice and I'll not be them.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
No intercomms. Actually, I mean thanks for this new fear
and lock so I have a huge fear of intercoms
and security cameras. For that reason is that I've seen
them use too many times in horror movies. To the
movies like golden tickets, oh one hundred percent, all these
things that are meant to keep you safe actually because
they're always used in horror movies as devices to foreshadow
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death activity. The whole thing was.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
On a camera. Yeah, wasn't it on camera across a bed?
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah. The other thing is I will not live in
an apartment that has a little peephole. You're a little
thing because you're supposed to look through that to see
if there's danger outside. So it should actually be a
safety thing. But do you know how many horror movies
where they look through the lens, even the latest Evil
Dead movie where they look for the lens and the
mother when she's been taken over by the Evil Dead
curse is staring and smiling back into it.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
It's smile, don't smile.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Smiles are the scariest thing. Intercoms smiles, Ruphlund Truck. Well, okay,
so I wasn't scared of the intercom in my apartment,
and it does ring every soften with deliveries or whatnot,
or the random friend who's popping by unannounced. I'm not
answering that thing now.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
No, well, now, okay, what you have to do is
you just louse them men, don't let them talk.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Oh well, then I'm going to let a stranger into
my house. You know what, I've also seen the strangers.
I've seen all the home. This is so why I
live in a fortress. I live many floors up. You
swite car together.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Maybe we won't let anyone in our apartments ever.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Again, I think that's a good idea. It seems fair.
My first one is a little movie that came out
in twenty thirteen, starring Sandra Bullock and George Clooney. But
this is not a wrong com It is a movie
set in space called Grab. Oh my God, have you
seen it? Yeah? Yeah, it's actually I should say great movie.
(07:50):
I actually think this is the movie that Sandra Bullock
should have won her Oscar for, not The blind Side,
because she was a great in that, but she got
one of those It's Time oscars. And the reason she
got cast in this movie is that she just she
was getting sent all these scripts. She wanted to do
this big part she got sent all of these scripts
and all ship, all the women parts in Hollywood were shit.
So she called herund to her friends and she said,
is there an incredible part out there that's a male
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role that we could just switch to a female and
it wouldn't affect the story. And that was Gravity. So
the movie itself, it's meant to be like a tense thriller,
and it is, but I don't think it's It's not why.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
She has like a man's name in the movie.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Her name's Ryan.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
So they just literally didn't change anything, you.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Know, They literally did no heavy lifting, which I guess
goes to show that it didn't need to be a man.
It was written for a man, but they just put
a woman in there and it was like, literally nothing changed.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Smashing glass ceilings.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Exactly, smashing glass ceilings, instilling fear and people everywhere. So
Sandra Bullock and George Clooney are these two astronauts working
on this space ship up in space. She's more of
the tech. She's there to do, like the work. He's
like the cavalier kind of cowboy astronaut who's like really
he's basically George Clooney.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
He's basically like Brad Pen and.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
He's like the door on the ship, this huge space junk.
This is when my space talk's going to get a
bit non technical. This huge unexpected storm of space junk
blast past them because a Russian has fired another ship
and it's put this debris everywhere, And so George and
Sandra out on a spacewalk fixing things. They get thrown
away and their entire spaceship is destroyed and all their
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crew killed instantly. It's not looking good for Sandra and
George until they realize that they can get to another
spaceship that will get them home, but they don't have
any energy left in their spaceship things. So they're floating
along and as they're trying to hop onto this other
spaceship to get in there to get the shuttle back
to Earth. This is their only chance that stands between
them and death, Sandra Billocks character gets wrapped up in
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the ropes that's pulling them, and then she's like, I'm
gonna have to let myself gone, and George Colooney's trying
to untangle her, and then all of a sudden he
makes this one decision and he goes to pull the
rope towards her, and then he lets go and that
shot of his hand just letting go, because that's instant
death and he's still there. But the thing is there's
no fuel left in their space shoots, so then he
is floating away, and he floats away for so long
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that would be the longest, saddest death. And she's calling
out to him like say no, trying to get him back.
He's dead in many hours to come. And that has
given me a fear of being lost in space.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, it looks so scary, just.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
That finality of being like that shot of his hand
letting gold of the rope and he'm floating away.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Now I'm just seeing of him where he's like a
little dot in this vast mass of blackness, and he's just.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Going to keep floating till his air runs.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Nothing you can do and rather still you can't feel,
you're just aware.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
And he's trying to give her instructions to the very
last moment until he floats so far away that their
communication cuts out. And can I tell you, I know, yeah,
I would have liked.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
To be one of the crew members. You don't even
know what's happening.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, it's just like Bank not George Clooney suffered for hours.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
He could still be up there.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
He could still be there. Well, his body is floating
around up there somewhere, So just think about that. But
I know what you're going to say, Laura, that's crazy.
You're not going to float away in space. But I
have nightmares about this, and I think about it all
the time, and it's becoming a less irrational fear and
more of a rational fear because I feel like, no,
don't don't you think tell you this, let me tell
(11:11):
you this before you love me. Space travel is becoming
more and more kind of part of the world. Next
Katy Perry, I'm just saying they do. They do a
media influence. I was just like, now for the media.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Girls from a music can I just say, it's not
trivial space.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Do not let go of that rope folding onto every
road in the air.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I've got my mic I've got my whole scripted front.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
It'd be the one astronaut who wouldn't like under a
seatbelt you can fight around now like no, no, it's
like you basically just went out of an aeroplane.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Because I'm just saying it used to be crazy like
I didn't know anyone who went to space. I've met
Katy Perry.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Space.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
I met Katy Perry. Katy Perry went to space. Space
tourism is happening.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
You know what's going to happen next, a media for Mill,
which is what we go and where you go and
experience something to write about it. This company, you're.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Going to write about the.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Masks not out of the realm of possibility than in
ten years. I'm sitting at my desk at Mama Mirea
because I'm still here doing this job, and someone taps
it on the shoulder like Hailraa. We've got this client.
It's Space, It's Space, it's Spaceos. They're doing a media
for mill like they want to you know, women have
the spending power. We know that Mamma Mia speaks to women.
The spill speaks to women. Will you go in like,
(12:53):
go up in space. It's totally fine. Katy Perry did it.
Every Celebri's done it. By the next one, I'm up
in space.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
And it's like, when you please include a saturin mention
Saturday from a good pr right now?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah, please just pop in a few like Mars mentions
a Satin mentioned Polutos like back, he's.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
A planet again to come back, but make it sound natural.
Did not mention gravity.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Gravity has done bad My no goes. It's just like gravity,
some of them the Alien franchise, Alien Franchise movies and
TV shows. I'm trying to get audition to space. So
now I love the movie Gravity, but I can't watch
it again because I'm so worried about those nightmares, which
are just intensifying as space moves closer and closer and
(13:43):
closer to me in a career way.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Oh my god, I love that so much. That's so funny. Okay, Okay,
my next one house of wax?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
What house of wax? Oh? House of wax? Okay, I
didn't know what you think. I don't know, said Hassleback.
I'm like, well, like the American commentator, she's terrifying. Yeah,
Elizabeth Hasselback of WA.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, gave me a fear that still runs through today
of madam.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I fear of Chad Michael Murray.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Pals acting, Oh my god, there's a Madam to swords
near where we live in Darling Harbor.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I've ever been? Have you been? Should we do?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Like?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Like? Of course, should we do like a fear conversion, like.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
We'll go in because you know what when you walk past,
because they don't have blind so they keep it like
open so you can see in. And the first people
you see is mean marry Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
They look nothing like making So if anyone doesn't know,
Madame Chords is like a thing around the world, right,
it's been a big tourist trap.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
It's a big of tourist trap. It's like these big
wax figures of celebrities and they're meant to be super
super lifelike. When we got to Australia, some low right now,
because one in New York is pretty good and I
went to that one before I watched Chowser Wax. Yeah,
the ones I've been other places.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
The Sydney Wance like they just poured it into like a.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Te so house of wax. The movie does have that,
Chad Michael Murray and Paris Hilton. It's about these group
of friends who are on their way to a football match.
They get stranded, their class break down, and all that's
in that town is this big wax museum that's run
by two evil brothers and it is so so scary.
(15:28):
The way they kill them is by pouring hot wax
on them. And they go into the wax museum and
they're like, oh, these wax figures look real, and then
they're like, wait, I think these are.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
People, And I was like what, Yeah, they're people that
have been killed horribly and then preserved from all time
in their waxident. But for people, yeah, no spoilers. Some
of the characters get turned into wax. That scene where
the Gilmore Girls guy, the Supernatural actor, Yeah, Darry Poljecia,
I guess we'll spoil it's been for twenty it's just
been after for twenty years. The other day, Paris Hilton
(15:59):
commenting on it, Oh my god, that scene where they're
like cut his face open, yeah, because he's still alive
the whole time they're making him to a wax statue.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I think it's parasitallicon where they pull wax on her
and she's like and then she's stop screaming, she's done.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah, and she gets the oh yeah, the arrow through
the head. Yeah. Oh. It is a gruesome movie that
was peak like slasher period. I love that, and that
gives you a fear of so many things. Going on
a road trip with a sibling and a boyfriend. Yeah,
that's what they do.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Bad idea, bad idea.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Small towns, small towns, two brothers, two brothers. Well there's
a hidden brother at the end.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Remember what don't know?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Don't two brothers? Huge fear small town locals, locals, local
businesses and wax wax and small business Madam, don't support
small don't support small businesses because they're clearly in the
wax industry handles out family owned businesses. God, sorry, too dangerous,
bringing capitalism. I don't think a capitalism tries to turn
(16:57):
you into a finey wax statue.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
That's mine, Madame de Sword's okay.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Later, Well, since you do that, I'll do a horror
movie as well, which we weren't going to do because
the hips horror movies. I give you a fear of, like,
you know, like a stranger coming to your house and
killing you, or a slasher, or like some sort of
magical thing happening. There's lots of those kind of ones.
But this is a real problem every day for me.
Every day I live with this because you know, I
love showering, I love cleanliness, I love shower I love
(17:23):
being clean of hand sanitizer. I love soap, I love water,
but I'm scared of the bathroom because a lot of
terrible things have happened in horror movies and bathrooms. But
I want to talk more about like one of the
ultimate slashes psychological thrillers, Psycho. Psycho. Yeah, well, this is
(17:43):
the famous scene from it, Like there's like the movie
itself is very famous, but I remember watching it. I
watched as a teenager. I saved up some of my
money from Kmart and I took my back down to
the video store. I rented some DVDs because I'm gonna
get into horror. I'm going to get into movies. I
rented Psycho. I was like fourteen, because I was like,
that's the movie that people watch. Watched it in broad
daylight while all my family was out. I was so
(18:03):
terrified by that final scene where he's rocking. I'm gonna
give spoilers away because it's one of the best plot
twists in the world. But there's someone who looks in
the camera and smiles again, smiling.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
And I was so terrified that at three o'clock in
the afternoon, I couldn't even be in the house. I
was too freaked out. So I went and sat in
the front yard in the sunlight and waited for my
family to come home.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Nothing bad happens in the sun Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Well I do want to be in the house.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah, where the bathroom was.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
So the reason is that. So the lead actresses Janetly,
and she's playing this woman called Marian who steals some money.
So she did a bad thing, but she didn't deserve
to die. Stole some money so that her boyfriend would
marry her. This is also a cautionary tale against marriage,
love and relationships.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
And stealing money.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah. Marriage. And she goes to this tire little hotel
and she's going to take the money back. The next day,
she feels bad for stealing. But while she's in the
totel room, she goes to the shower. She's having a
nice relaxing shower. It's meant to be warm and relaxing
and lovely, and then she turns around, screams, and she
gets stabbed to death in the shower. And that was
a very deliberate thing from Alfred Hitchcock because he and
(19:04):
his team were like, where do women in particular, but
where do people feel the most vulnerable? And they just
got that in and realizing what's exactly, and now you think,
sorry to everyone who's listening to this. Now you think
about that every time you get into the shower, because
you're going into an enclosed room, mostly alone. You're standing
in a tiny, enclosed space from which you cannot escape.
(19:25):
You've often got your eyes closed, naked back to the door,
and you're naked, and you usually don't have a phone.
Everything around you there's water, so people are less likely
to hear you scream. You're in a confined space. And
so even now when I go into the shower, I
can't have my back to the door. And I live alone,
so I do check that the doors or lots before
I shower, but I have a defensive shower, so I'm watching.
I don't put my head into the water for a
(19:46):
long time. I don't put my back to the door.
I know where my phone is, I know where my
keys are.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
It's actually like, no, I think that fear is so
valid because I feel like Psycho made a full cultural
shift with that scene. Because I don't know a single
person now who showers facing the faucet. Everyone always turns around.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
So do you have a death wish? You if you
shower facing.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
And watch Psycho, you know that scene. You know what
happens when you face the.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Shower, and then once you get out of the shower,
then you've got the mirror, and everyone knows that the
mirror is also trying to kill you.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Cab it in mirror. If you open it, you can't
close it again.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
You can't close it again because there'll be a serial
killed behind you and your ghost. And you also can't
put your head down and like wash your hands then
put your head up. That's when the killer appears when
you're looking. So now I can't use my bathroom mirror.
I've got a back out of there, I can't turn
the lights on it off, and I can't shower. I'm
in a really bad spot here.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Okay, yeah, okay, that's valid. That's bad.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Okay, my last one. Okay, I was so nervous to
put this one in because I know people will make
fun of me. But it's such a true fear I
have that I feel like I started getting over it
as an adult, okay, but it's still a bit like
freaked out when I remember that it exists. One hundred
and two dumbats one and two. The sequel gave me
(21:00):
a fear of Big Ben.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
The clock in London. Okay, Emily stopped breathing. Everyone, it's
so serciot, my god, it's big betting with the room
with us right now.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
No, because Oka. Firstly, one hundred and one Damnatians came
out in nineteen ninety six, which is when I was born,
So I missed that. I was old enough to go
to the cinema to watch one hundred and two Dumatis.
So that was my first introduction to the Dalmatian universe.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Kuela Deville played by Glenn Close, Yeah, scared shit out
of me. So so scared because if you remember one
hundred and one Damnations, they like defeat her and then
she goes into therapy.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Oh, I should say, before you go any further, please
excuse my ignorance. I have not seen the cinematic masterpiece
that is one hundred and two.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Let me tell you, you'll fear for your life.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
So, one hundred and two Dumbatians starts off with Kuela
Deville in rehab. She's going through somebody, she's going through
some movie. She's going through some therapy to help her
get over her hatred of Dalmatian dogs. So it opens
up with her in like this psychoatic unit where she's
like in this room and she's covered in all of
(22:14):
these Dalmation puppies. So we're licking her and playing with her,
and she's loving them. She's laughing, she's having the best time.
But she's been conditioned to now love Dalmatians and she's
like such a good person, she loves Dalmatians. But there's
something wrong with this condition. Yeah, she goes out on
the streets of London. Yeah, Big Ben strikes. Her face changes,
(22:35):
Big Ben strikes again. Her face changes again, Big Ben
strikes again. She's now back to the original Corolla Deville.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
So well, like the sound sound of.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Big Ben just completely undid all that work of her.
The power of sound.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Okay, it's sound. I don't want to say. When I was.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I watched that in cinema, I was like, no, not
big Ben.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Not Big Ben. The one beacon in safety we had.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Four years afterwards. Any type of bell, noise or sound
of photos like sent me into a as like a child.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I couldn't cope with Ben Ben, anything, anything big anyone
called Ben. Churches and churches if Emily doesn't come to
your wedding. Oh, if your name's Ben, don't.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Take it to bell at your wedding. Consider me uninvited.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Okay, have you what did you do when you went
to London? That's an ado. You've been to London.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, I had been to London and I saw Big Ben.
I didn't do the tour my parents at the tour.
You had to not go.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I'm not even joking, guys, I was like twenty one, when.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Everyone's likely you were ten years old.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
No, no, no, no, no, that's twenty one when I
went to see Big Ben. I feel like I'm glad
I've been exposed to Big Ben. I feel like I
needed that.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Otherwise it would have been as looming fear always in
your mind. Now you're like, I've seen it. I've looked
into the eyes of Big Ben and I trembled. But
I did it.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Oh my god. It also gave me a fear of
women who die there.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Because gun Closes has got half Cola Deville, half black
and half white.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
My mom couldn't die her parents, she couldn't cover up
the white. She had to do it in private. Oh
my god, I would freak out Corola Deville like Glenn Close,
amazing actress. Oh my god, she did things to me
as a kid that I was like, I can't get past.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Did you have a dog growing up? No?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I got my dog's way after so you went.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
What would know?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I wasn't scared of dogs?
Speaker 1 (24:37):
No, no, I no, no. But I thought, because the
whole thing about Glen Close, I was just scared of Close.
I think Ben, what Big Ben did to Glenn Close.
I mean, it's something we don't talk about enough in
pop culture. No, I thought you'd be scared because Corolla
Devill would come and take your dogs away. But there
were no dogs.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
But I was scared you would take me away. Sure
it was you speak a Wikipedia description of one hundred
and two dombations. Please, I feel like it understands my fear. Okay,
it says Kroella transforms into a good woman after she
leaves prison. However, the sound of Big Ben, the sounded
Big Ben, causes her to go back to a devious way,
(25:14):
and she decides to kidnap one hundred and two dumbation.
He's for a new coat, just so that they.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Knew she's serious this time. I mean, look, I understand
the sound of big bed. It's in Wikipedia, so it's true.
It happened. My god, people have irrational fears of stuff,
And can I say I understand because if you're gonna
kill a puppy, you'd kill a child exactly, Like it's
not that big of a jump. No, no, no, no, no,
So one hundred and three damatians did they ever make that?
Like that would have been the next step?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Watch out, watch out? She could have catched me in that.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
She would have brought another landmarks the Eiffel Tower.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Against tickets two one hundred and three dumbations like count
me out.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
No. Also, nothing scares you like things you've see in
your childhood. I don't even talk about the movies that
scared me my childhood, Like I don't even say them
out loud, because like it's still too much of a
real fear.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
It's so scary. Like there's some things I wouldn't do,
Like if you ever asked me if I wanted to
interview gun clothes, I'd be like hard, No.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
I understand, because I feel like she hates me the well. No, no,
the actress who scared me in my childhood from a
movie is unfortunately still alive and still acting, And anytime
I see her at anything, I'm just like, get that
woman away from me, just like her face terrifies me.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Who is it?
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Angel Right, She's not the most scary person you've ever seen, Loud,
I don't want she is scary. I exist scared. I
won't even interview people who are in movies with her.
I can't, they can't. I kind of like Katie Perry
and I link through space, not being linked to Angelica
Houston anyway. I kind of watch ever After its favorite movie. Anyway. Well,
I feel like I'm ending us on a bad note
(26:40):
now because I wanted to bring up a movie that
has appeared on this podcast before, because it's one of
my favorite movies of all all time?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Is it Jurassic Park?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
No, that's your favorite movie? And I wish you wouldn't
bring it up?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
How many times can I bring?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Too many times? I wouldn't normally repeat. But this movie
did give me a fear of misunderstanding or romantic situation,
something that I live I live in fear of. It's
under the Tuscan sun.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Oh you love this love.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I last talked about it actually just a year ago
before I went to Europe. I talked about it as
all the movies. It's a beautiful movie. I also watched
it while I was in Rome last year. I just
had like in my little hotel room one night after
I'd been out dancing at a piazza. But that's it
is the most beautiful movie. It's Diane Lane and she
has this terrible breakup, and so her friends, who were
(27:29):
played by Sandra Ow and Kate Walsh from Gray's Anatomy,
but this is pre Gray's Anatomy, and they're a lesbian couple.
They've just found out that Sandro's character is pregnant, so
they had booked this holiday to Tuscany, so give it
to their dear friend Frances, because she's gone through this
terrible breakup and her husband, because she was the breadwinner,
took their house, took everything. So she goes to Tuscany.
And while she's on this bus trip through Tuscany, which
(27:50):
is another fear, a bus trip with randoms, another fear unlooked,
she sees this beautiful villa and she jumps off the
bus and she buys it and she starts doing it up.
So that part is beautiful. But while she's there she's
obviously wanting to meet someone she never thinks. She thinks
romances are over for her forever. And then she meets
this absolutely stunning sexy man called Marchelochello, and she and
(28:12):
Marcello have like a wild romantic twist, and he lives
hours away in Positano. It's the whole thing. It's a
whole thing of like she's going to go visit him
and he's going to visit her. But then Sandro arrives heavily,
heavily pregnant. Kate Walsh has left her probably to go
star on private practice, and so she has to keep
pushing Marcello every couple of months, like I can't come,
I can't come, I can't come. And all of a sudden,
(28:33):
once the baby arrives, she realizes that everyone here around
her has a life. Everyone, all her neighbors, the people
who are working on a house, Sandra, everyone has something.
And she's like, this is my moment. I'm going to
go to Marcello. And so he had said that he
had a dream of her months ago on a white dress.
So she goes and buys the most beautiful white dress.
She packs up all her stuff, she travels across Italy.
(28:56):
She gets a boat, a car, a motorbike to get
up to this little place in Positano when he lives.
She gets there and she is she sees him, and
she was like, basically, I am in love with you.
We have been waiting for so long. I can't wait
to be with you. I'm here and I'm in the
white dress. And he's like, whoa, you've really misread the situation. Yeah,
we had a thing a few months ago and it
(29:17):
was nice. And there's a woman in his bed in
the same room that she's come into, and he's like,
I'm so sorry, you've misread this situation. It's all in
your head and this is not a big romantic moment.
And then she has to hire tailor back to her
villa and Tuscany humiliated. And so now I live in
fear of misreading a romantic situation.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
But you're not the kind of person that would do that.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
No, But I'm also trying to take like big swings
in life. But now I live. Even if a guy
was standing in front of me in a room full
of flowers and candles and he held out a ring
and said, will you marry me? I said, I would
be like, I'm so sorry. Just to be super clear,
is that a ring for someone else? At the photographer?
Does he know what's going on? Like? Should we like check?
(29:58):
Like I wouldn't even post a photo ID check the
caption with him first, Like I live in fear of
misreading a situation romantic or otherwise. I think romantic would
be the worst.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
How about what if I read all your romantic situation
please and then give you the down You think that.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I wouldn't call you if that happened, but I would
because I feel like you're really good at cutting through.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Yeah I would.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I would cutting through.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
I'll tell you how.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
You'd be like hmm put him on face time of
like okay, he's on my knee. You be like yeah,
show me the room and I'd be like, yeah, be
like mmm, flowers, how big is the ring? Like is
this happening?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Like I feel like your word can be tuscan Son.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
You'll be like is this a Tuscan Sun situat?
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah. I'll be like I'm so sorry, that's so nice
one second Emily tuscan Son. So that is an irrational
fear I have now of leading, even if I'm somewhere
and I get asked out. I'm just like, do you
mean like as friends? This is a networking thing? Is
it for coffee? Like?
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I like that you use that example, though, because I
do feel like irrational fears do spur from pop culture
moments that you've digested and have made it like your
whole world, because you think of like every little aspect
of everything, like your favorite favorite movie, like your aic park.
You know, like every little scene, every little aspect. You
think about it over and over again. So obviously you
(31:06):
think about not just like the best stuff you love
about it, but also like, oh my god, imagine that
happens to me.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Imagine if that happened to me. And also it's the
part she has to go back in the friend's like,
how was it you guys?
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Amom you're still wearing the white dress.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, she was still wearing the light dress. So I
live in fear. I would rather fall for Cliff in
Italy than go through that.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
I die that dress and then go back.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
I feel like, oh my god, God there and he
was dead and he said my name before he died.
I can't want to tell you no one needs to
go to Positano. So that keeps good. No one's asked
me to.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
We're not going to we're not going to Tokyo. We're
not going to big them.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
We're not going to space to space unless the brand
fee is right. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Hey, yeah, yeah, the money, the money.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
No, we're not seeing the money, and we're not showering,
and we're not trusting small family businesses. This is some
life lessons, guy, life lessons.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I hope you wrote them down.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Yeah, saying them again. Stay safe out there.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Thank you so much for listening to this episode of
This Field today. Did not forget to follow us on TikTok.
We are at the Spill podcast. The Spill is produced
by Militias Myron with sound production by Scott Stronik. We'll
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then another Spill episode at three pm.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal
Gregg Rosenthal and a rotating crew of elite NFL Media co-hosts, including Patrick Claybon, Colleen Wolfe, Steve Wyche, Nick Shook and Jourdan Rodrigue of The Athletic get you caught up daily on all the NFL news and analysis you need to be smarter and funnier than your friends.
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.