September 26, 2024 • 19 mins
Reese Witherspoon is moving ahead with the prequel to Legally Blonde and her process for casting the movie’s lead is quite unexpected.
And Sean Combs (also known as P Diddy) was recently charged with racketeering conspiracy; sex trafficking by force, fraud or coercion; and transportation to engage in prostitution. He remains in custody.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
You're listening to a Mama Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges
the traditional owners of land and borders that this podcast
is recorded on.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop
culture fix. I'm m Burnham and I'm Laura Brudnick. And
on the show today, there's a lot to unpack about
everything that's happened following rapper Sean Combe's also known as
P Diddy's arrest.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
But first, but first, some I guess exciting movie casting
news to break up what's been a bit of a
week of bleak news in the celebrity world. And that
is the fact that one Reese Witherspoon has posted to
her social account saying that she is opening up the
casting call for someone to play el Woods in the
upcoming Legally Blonde prequel.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
So they're not going to go for a celebrity, like
a well known celebrity.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yeah, That's what I thought was quite interesting because, like infamously,
the story around the casting of Reese with Us for
the original Legally Blonde movie, like that was a big
hot ticket in town, so many actresses wanted it. They
infamously offered it to Christina Applegate, who was the big
blonde comedy actress, reigning queen of comedy in Hollywood at
that time. She ended up turning it down because she
(01:25):
didn't want to be type cast, which sounds silly now,
but movies can go either way. Reese with a Spoon
allegedly like really chased down the role and really saw
it as a great business opportunity, showy business minded gal
and like Elwood, Yes exactly, she and Elwood's one person.
And so that obviously really launched her career into like
a whole different strata spheres like these big comedy movies.
(01:46):
And when it was announced that Reese with a Spoon
Whenben she went on stage in her legally blond outfit
earlier this year to announce the prequel, Yeah, and I
was like that girl, so she's all in, she's all
about business.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I was kind of nervous that because of the whole
nepotism stuff that's happening around.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I thought she was gonna be like Ava, it's for you.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Well, I mean, her daughter does look exactly like her,
but I guess she hasn't really done much acting, so
you know, that would be a big sweet My son
however has Yes, well he's a musician. Yes, he's got
another Romeo Beckham. No, he was in an episode of
Never Have I Ever. Yes, he does a bit of acting,
so I mean maybe he'll maybe he'll be in this
(02:25):
prequel film. But what we do know is that Reese
with Haspoon said they're opening up casting, which I think
is interesting because like so much is going to hinge
on finding the right actress for that role. And I
guess it's like very open minded of her to say, like,
we're not just going to go through the usual like
other NEPO babies in Hollywood or people that are coming
off series. We're going to really open it up and
(02:45):
see everybody. And like I guess sometimes it's how you
find the right people for these roles. Like it's very extensive,
but in my.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I'm on board. Minnie Kayling does that quite often with
her and it's like always works out.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah, exactly, you want to present an audition tape in
I would going to be writing it still Apparently yes,
apparently they're involved.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, I'm going to audition.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Okay, well look out fans' audition for Legally Blond to
the prequel, So even more information has come out about
the arrest and upcoming trial of musician Sean Combs, also
known as Puff Daddy, also known as p Diddy, A
man of many names.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
A lot of years did he he's got them all.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Exactly, which used to be kind of a fun thing
to say. But obviously everything that's come out in the
last well recently, but over the last year or so,
I think, has really stout any kind of memories we
have of his height, of his fame days, or his
music or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Are we sticking to Sean Combs?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I think so let's call him Shure. Yeah. Yeah, it
feels weird colim PDD this stage of the game. So
he was taken into custody in New York on September sixteen,
following a lot of reports of what was about to
come out, also following the release of a video that
came out this year, a really brutal video that made
its way around the Internet that showed him attacking singer Cassie,
(04:00):
who was his partner at the time, and that video
just went everywhere. Cassie's team spoke out about it and
basically said like, thank you for the support. Unfortunately, the
Statute of limitations for pressing child around that video had
already passed, but that was kind of like the big
thing that Sean Colmbs couldn't turn back from because people
watched that video and saw with their own eyes the
(04:20):
brutality of it. And even though he put up that
you know, you put that Instagram video being like, you know,
I'm so sorry for what I did in the past.
I'm a different person now I've done the work. Obviously
was not enough to turn the court of public opinion
back in his favor, and so then this arrest happened
on September sixteen. The next day, a fourteen page document
came out with a whole range of allegations against Seawan Combe,
(04:43):
including that he abused, threatened, and coerced women and others
around him or made public. There were pretty extensive charges
in there of things he's done. He then went on
to enter a plea of not guilty against the charges
of racketeering, conspiracy, sex trafficking by force, fraud or coercion,
and the transportation to engauge in prostitutions. So a real
(05:04):
raft of very very serious allegations there. He did try
and post bail on September seventeenth, and I think the
thinking from his team, reading between the lines of like
interview they've done and court papers that have come out,
that they really thought he was going to get bail,
knowing how famous he is and the resources that he has,
and I think judging from interviews that his team have
given about you know, his standing and how famous he is,
(05:27):
and the fact that he's got you know, family and
kids and resources, they thought that he was going to
be able to post bail and sort of return to
his home.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I remember reading that it said his bail was like
fifty million US dollars and it was rejected.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yes, they basically said, there is no amount of money
that's letting you out of here. I'm paraphrasing for the judge.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I'm like, good, Yeah, good, because what you get bail
and then you're just like at.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Home, yes, and your multimillion dollar mansion. Well, I think,
I mean, obviously we kind of you don't get into
conspiracy theories of why they wouldn't let him, although it's
pretty clear they thought he was a massive flight risk
given the resources he has, but also looking at the
court document and all the different allegations against him, if
he's convicted on every charge, he faces just a minimum
(06:11):
of fifteen years in prison, but most likely Yeah, did
you not listen to the list of charges I just
turned out it's pretty intense.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, but only fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Well with pot well that's if he's convict on them.
But there's a huge possibility of also a life sentence,
which is the more likely thing, but also could be
like kind of at least fifteen years. So they're obviously
they're thinking like, if this man thinks that he is
facing a lifetime in prison, would he just leave? That's
why they've held him in custody. So all of that
has blown up, and then a lot of images and
(06:40):
videos information were also released about the items that were
seized from his home during a raid in March that happened,
and all that information came out, and I think.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I saw something about like thousands of bottles of lube
and baby oil.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, I mean, I think it was probably quite a
few things in there. But also that's the one thing
that a lot of different celebrities have somehow been joking about.
So fifty Cent put up a social media post saying
I'm going on the Drew Barrymore Show and I can't
believe I don't have a thousand bottles of Loube at
the house. And everyone was like, it feels like a
weird joke to me, making off the back of Homeland
Security and the amount of stuff that they seized from
(07:13):
Ditty's home. And I think that's something that a lot
of people are waiting for because so many celebrities have
been in his orbit, A lot of people are waiting
for different celebrities to weigh in on what's happened. I
guess they can't come forward and say I know he
did this, or I know he did that or anything
like that. But you know, you've had someone like wild
Bee Goldberg say that it was really extensive and disturbing
and that we need to pay attention to it. Obviously Kesho,
(07:35):
who kind of rose to fame with a song about
what he did in the morning feeling like he did Yes,
well she's changed it now to wake up for them. Yeah,
and she put up and after all this information came out,
she put up a TikTok with those song lyrics coming
out about it. But the thing that everyone's really wanting,
I guess more information on in wanting more celebrities to
come out and talk about even if they're not aware
of the extent of some of the allegations like sex
(07:57):
trafficking and all those things that you would assume would
be happening well behind the scenes of his famous friends.
Is that for a really long time, Sean Combs was
known for these very infamous wild Hollywood parties, these white parties,
parties he would throw in his own home in La
And for a long time that was real kind of
bad juanna with celebrities about being invited to these parties,
(08:18):
getting to be in the inner circle. They were very infamous.
There were photos taken outside with like a press line,
but like very little information about what happened inside. But
since these allegations have come out, and since some information
the documents talk about what has happened at some of
his parties, people are really deciding to uncover more about
these very infamous celebrity get togethers.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
As someone who isn't fully across all the allegations against
him and his arrest, the one thing that I see everywhere,
which I'm sure everyone's seeing, are these huge group shots
of these A list celebrities at Sewan Comb's parties. He
called them white parties. But then I also read that
he also called them freak off parties, where it's been
(09:02):
alleged that he would direct orgies and kind of masturbate
to them.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I think there's a bit of a line on the
stand between these two gatherings. I think the white part
party was one that was held in the Hamptons and
it ran from nineteen ninety eight through to two thousand
and nine. And the idea of everyone wearing white is
that they were all on the same level. And he
also did interviews where people would say to him, do
you think that you're like a modern day Gatsby in
terms of like being the center of all these parties
(09:28):
and throwing these opulent events, And he was like, I'm
not trying to be Gatsby. I am Gatsby and so.
And his reasoning too, is that he invited like a
lot of friends and people that he grew up with,
so look just like I guess quote unquote ordinary people,
people who weren't involved in the celebrity world. And then
he would invite all of these celebrities. And his idea
was like, you have all these people from different worlds
coming together for this elaborate party that would sometimes go
(09:50):
for days. So they were always talked about about these
huge things. And you would have celebrities like when he
and Jennifhi Lopez were together, she would kind of co
host them. You would have like Sarah Jessica Parker would attend,
Leonardo DiCaprio, pretty much any celebrity names a Shuldin Kutcha, which
we'll get to because he's really been thrown under the
bus with this, and even like the Kardashians have spoken
quite extensively about attending these parties.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, so who was with you this weekend? A bunch
of my friends, Diddy, Quincy, Justin Bieber so Far Montana.
You know half the people you're naming. No, she didn't
go to bed.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I opened a bed yet you haven't. I want to
be Chloe when I grew up, or I got on.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
A plane at five thirty am called this party.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I think half the people there were butt naked.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
You would have loved it.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
So that clip has started to go viral now after
it resurfaced, and it shows Chloe Kardashian talking about attending
Seawan Comb's parties. I think they even did an interview
together at some stage where they were talking about how
wild his parties were. So everyone's kind of looking towards
them now since that clip has resurfaced. So the parties
then stopped after two thousand and nine, and Shawn Cromes
(11:02):
gave a few different interviews at the time and were
saying that basically he wasn't allowed to have permits. People
in the area where he was holding the parties were
very against them. And then he infamously said this quote,
which is also really resurfaced given everything has happened. He said,
you're going to hear about my parties. They're going to
be shutting them down. They'd probably be arresting me doing
all types of crazy things just because we want to
(11:24):
have a good time. Whenever you bring up different elements
into people's entertainments, you have things that broaden horizons and
people get intimidated. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
So he kind of knew, like first, he knew what
he was doing was wrong, and he kind of predicted
what was going to happen.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Well, I think there's a few different things. I think
because he's saying that in these national papers, what he
was alluding to, and I think what he wanted people
to be across is more so that he was throwing
these big, elaborate parties and people were complaining about having
a thousand people attend all the noise or having permits
for because lunch of a thousand people at a party,
that's you know, you need to have all these different
allowances and permits and things. So I don't think he
was alluding to the stuff that was going He was
(12:00):
trying to make them seem like these kind of off
the hook events where people were just having so much
fun that other people couldn't understand it. But what we're
seeing now in the court papers is that there's all
all these allegations that he would have these things called
freak cough parties what you're talking about before. And I
think these are very separate to the front facing white
parties where all the slubs are walking around in their
(12:21):
white outfits and beings.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
So were these freak off parties happening behind the scenes
of the white parties or was it a separate event altogether.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
It's hard to say because they haven't exactly named them
in terms of like, did this like flow on directly
from the white parties? I mean potentially because they would
go for days. But I couldn't see anything in the
court documents that have been made public that say that
they were kind of like specifically linked on the same
day or anything. What they have said, and what like
a few different people have come forward and said, is
that these free Cough parties, it's alleged that Sean Combs
(12:49):
forced women to take part in sex performances at these
parties that he would often film. So basically in the
court papers, a witness has said Free Coffs were elaborate
and produced sex performances that Shawn Combs arranged, directed, masturbated during,
and also often electronically recorded. And then a witness has
said that really weird shit started to have and there
(13:11):
were celebrity guys fucking each other. There were back bedrooms.
It was like being an inner sanctum. You'd see two
people you would not think and they'd be hooking up rappers,
famous people. And that's what shocked me. And so that
information has come out. Obviously we don't have like a
list of names or anything like that, but it's just
alleged that a lot of what has been said in
the public happened at these parties.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
So and the way that quote like saying celebrity guys,
it's kind of clear that even if it wasn't happening
at the actual white parties, it was clearly like a
group of celebrities that were still very close to him.
Yes that like all kept it between each other. But
the photos are so interesting because it does kind of
shed a bad light on all the celebrities who just
(13:55):
might have just attended the party but didn't actually partake
and like or have knowledge of what was going on.
But it's interesting with the Kardashian clip as well as
what celebrities have been saying and even like with some
rappers like Eminem like have talked about this through their
songs that they knew but they didn't know.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, well, isn't that always a thing that comes out
with a lot of these high profile men, especially when
there's this huge reckoning in Hollywood. It was the same,
like a very similar story with someone like Harvey Weinstein
when all those allegations came out. So many people came
out and said they absolutely had no idea, or they
kind of knew half of it, or they'd heard it
but they hadn't seen it. It's one of those things where,
like I think people don't want to speak publicly because
they're so worried about being pulled into it and having
(14:38):
their own partner it put forward. But it's one of
those things where people hear things, but they're kind of
like I just don't want to know, Like I'll keep
my head down, like bury my head in the sand
and not get into it. But now as this kind
of list of celebrities who were friends with him at
the time comes out, a lot of them have either
started to react and say like I had nothing to
do with that, or sort of issue press releases through
(14:58):
their team from third parties. And that's a little bit
what we're seeing now with Ashton Kutcher. So I don't
know if you've seen that his name has been in
the last couple of days really wrapped up with Sean Colmbs.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I couldn't figure out why. So what I found was
like originally Shawn Comb's parties was in his mansion in
the Hamptons, and then he moved them over to Beverly
Hills when he moved to Beverly Hills, and that's where
like people who lived in the area, like Ashton Kutcher,
Russell Brand started attending. But he did co host one
of the white parties with Ashton Kutcher.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yes. And so this is another clip that's been resurfaced
this week, and he's starting to go viral, kind of
like Kalie Kardashian mentioning on a clip of the Kardashians
so many years ago that she was there. This clip
has come up and it's a twenty nineteen appearance that
Ashton Kutcher did on Hot Ones and he was asked
if he had any funny stories about attending Shawn Comb's parties,
(15:49):
and he says, I've got a lot. I can't tell you. Oh,
I can't tell that one either. I'm actually cycling through them.
So he's like in his head, he's like trying to
think like cycling through them, and he goes Diddy party stories. Man,
that was some weird memory lane thing.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Wow, Okay, I've got a lot I can't tell. So
I can't tell that I like actually cycling through them.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
And so that came out, It went everywhere, and there
started to be all of these rumblings and allegations that
Ashton Kutcher again just allegation. To this point, I've seen
no court documents or anything to back this up. At
this stage, there came all these like different reports that
Ashton Kutcher was somehow involved who was panicking about his involvement,
and this is also a bit of a wild one,
which again we don't know. All of these allegations came out,
(16:34):
these reports that Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis were breaking
up and she had left him and taken the kids
because of these allegations because they're about to blow up,
which I kind of read that and I was like,
you just can't look into any truth and something like
that when it's all these blind items and reports. But
what I thought was interesting is that today People Magazine
have run a story saying that's false from a source,
(16:56):
and as we always say, People Magazine has obviously had
that information come from Ashton and Miller's team, and they
don't want to comment on directly because once they comment
on directly, the headlines blot with Ashton comments on Sean
Comb's arrest, Mila comment on divorce, and then it's open
slather for them to be asked about this in the future.
(17:16):
So instead it appears that they've told People Magazine like
sent them a statement, and People's run that to cind
and stop the story and the statement is this is
absolutely ridiculous and false. Ashon has no involvement in any
of this. He doesn't belong in the conversation about Diddy.
Ashon has only seen Didty a handful of times at
social and business events, all of which have been documented
(17:37):
by the media. Just left it to that.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
That's not true though, because there are photos of him
at the parties.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yes, well, I think that's is that what they mean
as a social event? Yeah, yeah, that's what he's saying.
He's like at a handful of business and social events,
social events being the party, and he's saying that every
time we've been together, there's photos of it. So if
you can only find ten photos, we've only been together
ten times.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
But he'd kind of dug himself in a hole with
that Hot Ones interview by kind of admitting that, no,
he's seen some stuff and he can't talk about it.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Oh yeah, but I think all celebrities have really said
that about Seawan Colmes's party. So it's one of those
things where like it could go either way. Like I'm
not saying he is involved and I'm not saying he's not,
because we just don't have that information, But I think
it was a very like common and very like accepted
thing that everyone would talk about these wild parties in interviews.
And obviously now we're seeing that in a different light
(18:25):
given the circumstances. But back then they were just seen
as these wild celebrity parties. Everyone will cool clothes and
hung out together, and there's a million celebrity parties like
that happening every year. So like, I can understand why
they weren't on their guard back then about it.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I think they're just like in such a bad light
right now, especially after the Danny Masterson stuff, it feels
more believable that he was there and was aware of
it because of like how he handled that situation.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah, yeah, we just don't know. I mean, the thing
I think to remember here is like you can only
go off with some of the court documents, but also
there would be so much information about the behind the
scenes of these parties, these events, and just celebrity lives
in general that we would have no information about. It's
just like, I think so much of it comes with
having to keep bits of their lives hidden, and they
have the resources to do that, and so I guess
(19:12):
at this point in time, we're just waiting for the
trial to start and waiting for that information to come
out through the courts, and obviously just really feeling for
all of the women in particular who are wrapped up
in this, who are the ones who have made the
complaints about that huge list of allegations that have been
made against him, and I'm sure they're all kind of
hoping that this will go through the court and I'll
get the outcome they're looking for.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today.
If you want more information on Sean Combe's arrests and
the allegations, we have been writing about it on mamamea
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in our show notes. We will be back here on
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop
culture fix. I'm m Burnham and I'm Laura Brudnick. And
on the show today, there's a lot to unpack about
everything that's happened following rapper Sean Combe's also known as
P Diddy's arrest.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
But first, but first, some I guess exciting movie casting
news to break up what's been a bit of a
week of bleak news in the celebrity world. And that
is the fact that one Reese Witherspoon has posted to
her social account saying that she is opening up the
casting call for someone to play el Woods in the
upcoming Legally Blonde prequel.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
So they're not going to go for a celebrity, like
a well known celebrity.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yeah, That's what I thought was quite interesting because, like infamously,
the story around the casting of Reese with Us for
the original Legally Blonde movie, like that was a big
hot ticket in town, so many actresses wanted it. They
infamously offered it to Christina Applegate, who was the big
blonde comedy actress, reigning queen of comedy in Hollywood at
that time. She ended up turning it down because she
(01:25):
didn't want to be type cast, which sounds silly now,
but movies can go either way. Reese with a Spoon
allegedly like really chased down the role and really saw
it as a great business opportunity, showy business minded gal
and like Elwood, Yes exactly, she and Elwood's one person.
And so that obviously really launched her career into like
a whole different strata spheres like these big comedy movies.
(01:46):
And when it was announced that Reese with a Spoon
Whenben she went on stage in her legally blond outfit
earlier this year to announce the prequel, Yeah, and I
was like that girl, so she's all in, she's all
about business.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I was kind of nervous that because of the whole
nepotism stuff that's happening around.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I thought she was gonna be like Ava, it's for you.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Well, I mean, her daughter does look exactly like her,
but I guess she hasn't really done much acting, so
you know, that would be a big sweet My son
however has Yes, well he's a musician. Yes, he's got
another Romeo Beckham. No, he was in an episode of
Never Have I Ever. Yes, he does a bit of acting,
so I mean maybe he'll maybe he'll be in this
(02:25):
prequel film. But what we do know is that Reese
with Haspoon said they're opening up casting, which I think
is interesting because like so much is going to hinge
on finding the right actress for that role. And I
guess it's like very open minded of her to say, like,
we're not just going to go through the usual like
other NEPO babies in Hollywood or people that are coming
off series. We're going to really open it up and
(02:45):
see everybody. And like I guess sometimes it's how you
find the right people for these roles. Like it's very extensive,
but in my.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I'm on board. Minnie Kayling does that quite often with
her and it's like always works out.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah, exactly, you want to present an audition tape in
I would going to be writing it still Apparently yes,
apparently they're involved.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, I'm going to audition.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Okay, well look out fans' audition for Legally Blond to
the prequel, So even more information has come out about
the arrest and upcoming trial of musician Sean Combs, also
known as Puff Daddy, also known as p Diddy, A
man of many names.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
A lot of years did he he's got them all.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Exactly, which used to be kind of a fun thing
to say. But obviously everything that's come out in the
last well recently, but over the last year or so,
I think, has really stout any kind of memories we
have of his height, of his fame days, or his
music or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Are we sticking to Sean Combs?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I think so let's call him Shure. Yeah. Yeah, it
feels weird colim PDD this stage of the game. So
he was taken into custody in New York on September sixteen,
following a lot of reports of what was about to
come out, also following the release of a video that
came out this year, a really brutal video that made
its way around the Internet that showed him attacking singer Cassie,
(04:00):
who was his partner at the time, and that video
just went everywhere. Cassie's team spoke out about it and
basically said like, thank you for the support. Unfortunately, the
Statute of limitations for pressing child around that video had
already passed, but that was kind of like the big
thing that Sean Colmbs couldn't turn back from because people
watched that video and saw with their own eyes the
(04:20):
brutality of it. And even though he put up that
you know, you put that Instagram video being like, you know,
I'm so sorry for what I did in the past.
I'm a different person now I've done the work. Obviously
was not enough to turn the court of public opinion
back in his favor, and so then this arrest happened
on September sixteen. The next day, a fourteen page document
came out with a whole range of allegations against Seawan Combe,
(04:43):
including that he abused, threatened, and coerced women and others
around him or made public. There were pretty extensive charges
in there of things he's done. He then went on
to enter a plea of not guilty against the charges
of racketeering, conspiracy, sex trafficking by force, fraud or coercion,
and the transportation to engauge in prostitutions. So a real
(05:04):
raft of very very serious allegations there. He did try
and post bail on September seventeenth, and I think the
thinking from his team, reading between the lines of like
interview they've done and court papers that have come out,
that they really thought he was going to get bail,
knowing how famous he is and the resources that he has,
and I think judging from interviews that his team have
given about you know, his standing and how famous he is,
(05:27):
and the fact that he's got you know, family and
kids and resources, they thought that he was going to
be able to post bail and sort of return to
his home.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I remember reading that it said his bail was like
fifty million US dollars and it was rejected.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yes, they basically said, there is no amount of money
that's letting you out of here. I'm paraphrasing for the judge.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I'm like, good, Yeah, good, because what you get bail
and then you're just like at.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Home, yes, and your multimillion dollar mansion. Well, I think,
I mean, obviously we kind of you don't get into
conspiracy theories of why they wouldn't let him, although it's
pretty clear they thought he was a massive flight risk
given the resources he has, but also looking at the
court document and all the different allegations against him, if
he's convicted on every charge, he faces just a minimum
(06:11):
of fifteen years in prison, but most likely Yeah, did
you not listen to the list of charges I just
turned out it's pretty intense.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, but only fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Well with pot well that's if he's convict on them.
But there's a huge possibility of also a life sentence,
which is the more likely thing, but also could be
like kind of at least fifteen years. So they're obviously
they're thinking like, if this man thinks that he is
facing a lifetime in prison, would he just leave? That's
why they've held him in custody. So all of that
has blown up, and then a lot of images and
(06:40):
videos information were also released about the items that were
seized from his home during a raid in March that happened,
and all that information came out, and I think.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I saw something about like thousands of bottles of lube
and baby oil.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, I mean, I think it was probably quite a
few things in there. But also that's the one thing
that a lot of different celebrities have somehow been joking about.
So fifty Cent put up a social media post saying
I'm going on the Drew Barrymore Show and I can't
believe I don't have a thousand bottles of Loube at
the house. And everyone was like, it feels like a
weird joke to me, making off the back of Homeland
Security and the amount of stuff that they seized from
(07:13):
Ditty's home. And I think that's something that a lot
of people are waiting for because so many celebrities have
been in his orbit, A lot of people are waiting
for different celebrities to weigh in on what's happened. I
guess they can't come forward and say I know he
did this, or I know he did that or anything
like that. But you know, you've had someone like wild
Bee Goldberg say that it was really extensive and disturbing
and that we need to pay attention to it. Obviously Kesho,
(07:35):
who kind of rose to fame with a song about
what he did in the morning feeling like he did Yes,
well she's changed it now to wake up for them. Yeah,
and she put up and after all this information came out,
she put up a TikTok with those song lyrics coming
out about it. But the thing that everyone's really wanting,
I guess more information on in wanting more celebrities to
come out and talk about even if they're not aware
of the extent of some of the allegations like sex
(07:57):
trafficking and all those things that you would assume would
be happening well behind the scenes of his famous friends.
Is that for a really long time, Sean Combs was
known for these very infamous wild Hollywood parties, these white parties,
parties he would throw in his own home in La
And for a long time that was real kind of
bad juanna with celebrities about being invited to these parties,
(08:18):
getting to be in the inner circle. They were very infamous.
There were photos taken outside with like a press line,
but like very little information about what happened inside. But
since these allegations have come out, and since some information
the documents talk about what has happened at some of
his parties, people are really deciding to uncover more about
these very infamous celebrity get togethers.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
As someone who isn't fully across all the allegations against
him and his arrest, the one thing that I see everywhere,
which I'm sure everyone's seeing, are these huge group shots
of these A list celebrities at Sewan Comb's parties. He
called them white parties. But then I also read that
he also called them freak off parties, where it's been
(09:02):
alleged that he would direct orgies and kind of masturbate
to them.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I think there's a bit of a line on the
stand between these two gatherings. I think the white part
party was one that was held in the Hamptons and
it ran from nineteen ninety eight through to two thousand
and nine. And the idea of everyone wearing white is
that they were all on the same level. And he
also did interviews where people would say to him, do
you think that you're like a modern day Gatsby in
terms of like being the center of all these parties
(09:28):
and throwing these opulent events, And he was like, I'm
not trying to be Gatsby. I am Gatsby and so.
And his reasoning too, is that he invited like a
lot of friends and people that he grew up with,
so look just like I guess quote unquote ordinary people,
people who weren't involved in the celebrity world. And then
he would invite all of these celebrities. And his idea
was like, you have all these people from different worlds
coming together for this elaborate party that would sometimes go
(09:50):
for days. So they were always talked about about these
huge things. And you would have celebrities like when he
and Jennifhi Lopez were together, she would kind of co
host them. You would have like Sarah Jessica Parker would attend,
Leonardo DiCaprio, pretty much any celebrity names a Shuldin Kutcha, which
we'll get to because he's really been thrown under the
bus with this, and even like the Kardashians have spoken
quite extensively about attending these parties.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, so who was with you this weekend? A bunch
of my friends, Diddy, Quincy, Justin Bieber so Far Montana.
You know half the people you're naming. No, she didn't
go to bed.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I opened a bed yet you haven't. I want to
be Chloe when I grew up, or I got on.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
A plane at five thirty am called this party.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I think half the people there were butt naked.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
You would have loved it.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
So that clip has started to go viral now after
it resurfaced, and it shows Chloe Kardashian talking about attending
Seawan Comb's parties. I think they even did an interview
together at some stage where they were talking about how
wild his parties were. So everyone's kind of looking towards
them now since that clip has resurfaced. So the parties
then stopped after two thousand and nine, and Shawn Cromes
(11:02):
gave a few different interviews at the time and were
saying that basically he wasn't allowed to have permits. People
in the area where he was holding the parties were
very against them. And then he infamously said this quote,
which is also really resurfaced given everything has happened. He said,
you're going to hear about my parties. They're going to
be shutting them down. They'd probably be arresting me doing
all types of crazy things just because we want to
(11:24):
have a good time. Whenever you bring up different elements
into people's entertainments, you have things that broaden horizons and
people get intimidated. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
So he kind of knew, like first, he knew what
he was doing was wrong, and he kind of predicted
what was going to happen.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Well, I think there's a few different things. I think
because he's saying that in these national papers, what he
was alluding to, and I think what he wanted people
to be across is more so that he was throwing
these big, elaborate parties and people were complaining about having
a thousand people attend all the noise or having permits
for because lunch of a thousand people at a party,
that's you know, you need to have all these different
allowances and permits and things. So I don't think he
was alluding to the stuff that was going He was
(12:00):
trying to make them seem like these kind of off
the hook events where people were just having so much
fun that other people couldn't understand it. But what we're
seeing now in the court papers is that there's all
all these allegations that he would have these things called
freak cough parties what you're talking about before. And I
think these are very separate to the front facing white
parties where all the slubs are walking around in their
(12:21):
white outfits and beings.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
So were these freak off parties happening behind the scenes
of the white parties or was it a separate event altogether.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
It's hard to say because they haven't exactly named them
in terms of like, did this like flow on directly
from the white parties? I mean potentially because they would
go for days. But I couldn't see anything in the
court documents that have been made public that say that
they were kind of like specifically linked on the same
day or anything. What they have said, and what like
a few different people have come forward and said, is
that these free Cough parties, it's alleged that Sean Combs
(12:49):
forced women to take part in sex performances at these
parties that he would often film. So basically in the
court papers, a witness has said Free Coffs were elaborate
and produced sex performances that Shawn Combs arranged, directed, masturbated during,
and also often electronically recorded. And then a witness has
said that really weird shit started to have and there
(13:11):
were celebrity guys fucking each other. There were back bedrooms.
It was like being an inner sanctum. You'd see two
people you would not think and they'd be hooking up rappers,
famous people. And that's what shocked me. And so that
information has come out. Obviously we don't have like a
list of names or anything like that, but it's just
alleged that a lot of what has been said in
the public happened at these parties.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
So and the way that quote like saying celebrity guys,
it's kind of clear that even if it wasn't happening
at the actual white parties, it was clearly like a
group of celebrities that were still very close to him.
Yes that like all kept it between each other. But
the photos are so interesting because it does kind of
shed a bad light on all the celebrities who just
(13:55):
might have just attended the party but didn't actually partake
and like or have knowledge of what was going on.
But it's interesting with the Kardashian clip as well as
what celebrities have been saying and even like with some
rappers like Eminem like have talked about this through their
songs that they knew but they didn't know.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, well, isn't that always a thing that comes out
with a lot of these high profile men, especially when
there's this huge reckoning in Hollywood. It was the same,
like a very similar story with someone like Harvey Weinstein
when all those allegations came out. So many people came
out and said they absolutely had no idea, or they
kind of knew half of it, or they'd heard it
but they hadn't seen it. It's one of those things where,
like I think people don't want to speak publicly because
they're so worried about being pulled into it and having
(14:38):
their own partner it put forward. But it's one of
those things where people hear things, but they're kind of
like I just don't want to know, Like I'll keep
my head down, like bury my head in the sand
and not get into it. But now as this kind
of list of celebrities who were friends with him at
the time comes out, a lot of them have either
started to react and say like I had nothing to
do with that, or sort of issue press releases through
(14:58):
their team from third parties. And that's a little bit
what we're seeing now with Ashton Kutcher. So I don't
know if you've seen that his name has been in
the last couple of days really wrapped up with Sean Colmbs.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I couldn't figure out why. So what I found was
like originally Shawn Comb's parties was in his mansion in
the Hamptons, and then he moved them over to Beverly
Hills when he moved to Beverly Hills, and that's where
like people who lived in the area, like Ashton Kutcher,
Russell Brand started attending. But he did co host one
of the white parties with Ashton Kutcher.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yes. And so this is another clip that's been resurfaced
this week, and he's starting to go viral, kind of
like Kalie Kardashian mentioning on a clip of the Kardashians
so many years ago that she was there. This clip
has come up and it's a twenty nineteen appearance that
Ashton Kutcher did on Hot Ones and he was asked
if he had any funny stories about attending Shawn Comb's parties,
(15:49):
and he says, I've got a lot. I can't tell you. Oh,
I can't tell that one either. I'm actually cycling through them.
So he's like in his head, he's like trying to
think like cycling through them, and he goes Diddy party stories. Man,
that was some weird memory lane thing.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Wow, Okay, I've got a lot I can't tell. So
I can't tell that I like actually cycling through them.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
And so that came out, It went everywhere, and there
started to be all of these rumblings and allegations that
Ashton Kutcher again just allegation. To this point, I've seen
no court documents or anything to back this up. At
this stage, there came all these like different reports that
Ashton Kutcher was somehow involved who was panicking about his involvement,
and this is also a bit of a wild one,
which again we don't know. All of these allegations came out,
(16:34):
these reports that Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis were breaking
up and she had left him and taken the kids
because of these allegations because they're about to blow up,
which I kind of read that and I was like,
you just can't look into any truth and something like
that when it's all these blind items and reports. But
what I thought was interesting is that today People Magazine
have run a story saying that's false from a source,
(16:56):
and as we always say, People Magazine has obviously had
that information come from Ashton and Miller's team, and they
don't want to comment on directly because once they comment
on directly, the headlines blot with Ashton comments on Sean
Comb's arrest, Mila comment on divorce, and then it's open
slather for them to be asked about this in the future.
(17:16):
So instead it appears that they've told People Magazine like
sent them a statement, and People's run that to cind
and stop the story and the statement is this is
absolutely ridiculous and false. Ashon has no involvement in any
of this. He doesn't belong in the conversation about Diddy.
Ashon has only seen Didty a handful of times at
social and business events, all of which have been documented
(17:37):
by the media. Just left it to that.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
That's not true though, because there are photos of him
at the parties.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yes, well, I think that's is that what they mean
as a social event? Yeah, yeah, that's what he's saying.
He's like at a handful of business and social events,
social events being the party, and he's saying that every
time we've been together, there's photos of it. So if
you can only find ten photos, we've only been together
ten times.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
But he'd kind of dug himself in a hole with
that Hot Ones interview by kind of admitting that, no,
he's seen some stuff and he can't talk about it.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Oh yeah, but I think all celebrities have really said
that about Seawan Colmes's party. So it's one of those
things where like it could go either way. Like I'm
not saying he is involved and I'm not saying he's not,
because we just don't have that information, But I think
it was a very like common and very like accepted
thing that everyone would talk about these wild parties in interviews.
And obviously now we're seeing that in a different light
(18:25):
given the circumstances. But back then they were just seen
as these wild celebrity parties. Everyone will cool clothes and
hung out together, and there's a million celebrity parties like
that happening every year. So like, I can understand why
they weren't on their guard back then about it.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I think they're just like in such a bad light
right now, especially after the Danny Masterson stuff, it feels
more believable that he was there and was aware of
it because of like how he handled that situation.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah, yeah, we just don't know. I mean, the thing
I think to remember here is like you can only
go off with some of the court documents, but also
there would be so much information about the behind the
scenes of these parties, these events, and just celebrity lives
in general that we would have no information about. It's
just like, I think so much of it comes with
having to keep bits of their lives hidden, and they
have the resources to do that, and so I guess
(19:12):
at this point in time, we're just waiting for the
trial to start and waiting for that information to come
out through the courts, and obviously just really feeling for
all of the women in particular who are wrapped up
in this, who are the ones who have made the
complaints about that huge list of allegations that have been
made against him, and I'm sure they're all kind of
hoping that this will go through the court and I'll
get the outcome they're looking for.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today.
If you want more information on Sean Combe's arrests and
the allegations, we have been writing about it on mamamea
dot com dot a you. We will link those pieces
in our show notes. We will be back here on
your podcast feed at three pm tomorrow. Bye bye,
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